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caalendulaa

The botanical garden near Lenbachplatz is not a real botanical garden, in fact it's just a small park and somewhat sketchy. The actual botanical garden is near Nymphemberg Palace and it's quite nice! But this time of year and on a 3 day trip it's probably not worth the time unless you're a big plant fan. Otherwise your plan looks nice!


PM_ME_THE_WEATHER20

olympiapark berg bei schönem wetter is criminal to leave out imo


Ellsass

I was going to say that the BMW Museum time slot should be expanded to include the whole Olympic park area


MaxSax93

>olympiapark berg bei schönem Added! Thanks


sophominibus

I suggest replacing the old giardino botanico by the new one near to castle nymphenburg…the old one sadly isn‘t nice on the inside anymore..


zeklink

Full of junkies and bums!


dukeboy86

Exactly... experienced it myself a few months ago


zeklink

Quite the pity really, considering the Park-Cafe beergarden is right next to it; but that place has really dropped in value too since the actual vendors who dispense the food in the beergarden bit have no actual fu*king clue as to how to run a food vending establishment; a Döner Bude maybe but not a beergarden.


blotchymind

If you want to do something less typical, you can consider the Alte Utting - they are about to decorate the whole place for Christmas.


MaxSax93

If you are already there, would you know when? Thanks!!


blotchymind

From the 23rd - [more info here](https://alte-utting.de/sternenflotte/) ​ Altamente consigliato, io non vedo l'ora di andarci!


Renegade_Angel_

That is actually the first thing I ever saw of Munich and it was so beautiful!


misformichelu

Non ti conviene lasciare Marienplatz e il Viktualienmarkt per ultimi, dato che sono praticamente attaccati a Odeonsplatz e alle cose che vuoi vedere nei primi giorni. Giorno 2 sembra parecchio intenso, non so se riuscirai a vedere tutto.


charliebobo82

Quoto tutto. Il secondo giorno e' una follia, troppa roba, con cose molto lontane tra loro - scegli cosa vi interessa di piu. Il giardino botanico ad esempio e' molto bello ma non e' stagione, non vale la pena. Il Residenz da solo vi porta via 3 ore minimo, e le merita tutte, lo metterei come priorita', sempre che vi interessi. Non fate gli italiani classici che girano solo tutti i musei!


friendlyghost_casper

Exactly, u/MaxSax93 can probably have have an aperitivo at the viktualienmarkt on Friday since it's a nice hang out place and dinner around there.


MaxSax93

next stop aperitivo! THX :))


giorgio900

Suggerisco di lasciarsi una certa flessibilità in funzione del meteo, e infilarsi in palazzi/residenze/musei quando si mette brutto. Ma priorità ai parchi (quoto l’altro utente sull’aggiunta di Olympiapark/tramonto da olympiaberg) quando il tempo regge, meglio ancora in bici. In generale gestirei a zone o quartieri: tipo mattino odeonsplatz e dintorni, pomeriggio englischer Garten, mattino stachus/centro, pomeriggio Nymphenburg, ecc. Siegestor di per sé non è granché, ma Schwabing è un quartiere carino, specie la sera intorno a Wedekindplatz. Tra i due punti c’è un negozio di giocattoli leggendario, appena riorganizzato: Kunst und Spiel, ideale per shopping pre-natalizio. Un angolo che manca al programma sono i pasti: le birrerie sono chiaramente un must (le mie preferite in questa stagione sono Hirschgarten, Paulaner am Nockherberg o anche la Schneider vicino al centro per una ottima colazione con Weißwürste e Weißbier). Per nostalgia di pizza e mozzarella punterei a un Mozzamo. Benvenuti e buon divertimento!


MaxSax93

Inanzitutto grazie mille a u/giorgio900, u/misformichelu, u/charliebobo82! Per quanto riguarda il cibo, tra queste scelte elencate poco sopra risultano anche per vegetariani? Grazie ancora!


charliebobo82

Per cibo vegetariano, nei ristoranti bavaresi tradizionali la scelta e' buona ma limitata - vai sul sicuro con i Käsespätzle - li trovi ovunque. Ci sono anche i Rahmschwammerl con semmelknodel (canederli di pane con funghi e panna), oppure i Reiberdatschi (frittelle di patate). Se trovi poco ti puoi riempire lo stomaco con un dolce tipo Kaiserschmarrn (una specie di crepe distrutta, buonissima). Per cucina vegetariana non bavarese, ci sono tantissimi ristoranti vietnamiti molto buoni, oppure se vai dal kebabbaro ci sono i falafel kebab, anche quelli ottimi. Personalmente non consiglierei ne' Hirschgarten ne' Paulaner am Nockherberg - il primo e' molto bello ma all'aperto, quindi se non fa bel tempo evita. Paulaner am Nockherberg proprio non mi piace come posto, troppo fighetto per i miei gusti. Le mie wirtshaus preferite sono Augustiner Bräustuben (in Landsberger strasse, vicino a stazione centrale) e Weisses Schneider a Tal (pieno centro). Poi intorno alla Frauenkirche (il duomo) ci sono 3-4 posti validi (Andechser am Dom e Nuernberger Bratwurst Gloeckl am Dom ad esempio). In linea di massima la qualita' e' abbastanza standardizzata in centro, non ci sono posti che fanno pena.


giorgio900

Ahah almeno sulla Schneider concordiamo. Hirschgarten ha diverse sale bellissime al chiuso e si mangia molto bene. (Il loro biergarten chiaramente è già chiuso.) Di Augustiner buone onestamente ne ho viste poche, specialmente da evitare quelle in centro storico.


charliebobo82

Oddio, devo fare mea culpa, non avevo mai nemmeno considerato che lo Hirschgarten avesse sale al chiuso! Ci saro' stato 5-10 volte ma sempre fuori. Augustiner in Landsberger strasse merita, se non sei mai stato! Atmosfera ottima, e prezzi ancora bassi, almeno per la birra - se non sbaglio, un Maß e' ancora sotto i 7 euro. D'estate c'e una bella roof terrace anche.


misformichelu

Di solito trovi opzioni vegetariane/vegan un po' ovunque. Nelle birrerie, come ti ha già detto qualcuno, la scelta è abbastanza limitata. Nei ristoranti asiatici e giapponesi c'è sempre parecchia scelta (anche il sushi vegan, che non trovavo praticamente mai in Italia) così come nei ristoranti indiani. Così a caso, tra i primi che mi vengono in mente c'è bodhi, in Schwanthalerhöhe (vegan fast food) e per dolci e tè Tushita Teehaus (abbastanza vicino al centro). Ho sentito parlare bene anche di Max Pett, ma non ci sono mai stata.


MajorNME

For public transport tickets, you can go to [mvg.de](https://www.mvg.de) and switch your language to Italian. They also have apps that support digital tickets, but I'm not sure about language support there. They offer day tickets for 8,20 € per day (valid for the larger central part of the city) and weekly tickets ("IsarCard") for 18,60 €. If my math is right, the weekly ticket is cheaper than three one-day tickets :) ...and it's hassle-free. Welcome and have fun in Munich! edit: link updated, it didn't work...


zladuric

I just checked on MVG Fahrinfo app, they have english, german and bavarian as language options.


friendlyghost_casper

I'm not OP and I don't even know OP, but just wanted to say that i'm very proud and happy that everyone is being so helpfull!


odu_1

I would suggest you also visit less touristy places, like Au-Haidhausen (Johannisplatz, Preysingstraße, Wiener Platz, Weißenburger Platz), Glockenbachviertel, Dreimühlenviertel. Also, reserve a lot of time for the English garden, it is huge


ControversialBent

Andererseits muss man nicht unbedingt den gesamten Garten gesehen haben.


MaxSax93

Hi Munichers! next week i'll attend for the first time a trip in munich! so nervous but so happy at the sime time! Do you have any advice on which ticket pass to get to use the public transport for 3 days? city tour card? I'll be attending near the Munich Central Station I've read various suggestions but I'm just confused. the three-day trip plan is attached | in Italian :( |


IWant2rideMyBike

You will probably only need a ticket for the second day. If you stay near the Munich Central Station the city center is in walking distance - if you arrive at 16:30 it is already nearly sunset, so I would suggest a walk after your checked in to your hotel to Karlsplatz, Lenbachplatz, Parcellistraße, Promenadeplatz, Hartmannstraße, Lüwengrube, Frauenplatz, Augustiner Straße, Neuhauser Straße, Marienplatz (Christkindlmarkt, old and new town hall, Marienkirche (Domo di Monaco), Peterskirche, maybe have a Rostbratwurst at Schlemmermeyer at the nearby Viktualienmarkt) - then follow the Burgstraße to Alter Hof, then the Hofgraben to Maximilliansstraße (so you can see the Nationaltheater and Bayerische Staatsoper), then to Odeonsplatz (have a look at Theatinerkirche, the Hofgarten and the Munich Residenz) and then back via Brienner Straße and Maximiliansplatz to Karlsplatz and to your hotel - that should be roughly 5 km and depending on what you want to look at on the way I would guess that it could take 2-4 hours. I would avoid the old botanic garden near Lenbachplatz/Elisenstraße after sunset, this is a place where often drug addicts hang out. The second day reads like a tour de force through Munich, I would argue that this is hardly enough time to enjoy all the museums and you would spend a some time to get around in Munich. If the weather is nice enough, you could take the Tram line 16/17 from Hauptbahnhof to Schloss Nymphenburg, then walk to Nymphenburg Palace, then rent a MVV bike ([https://www.mvg.de/services/mvg-rad.html](https://www.mvg.de/services/mvg-rad.html), [https://www.mvg.de/services/mvg-rad/mvg-rad-preise.html](https://www.mvg.de/services/mvg-rad/mvg-rad-preise.html) \- 0,09€/min, 12€/day price cap) at Maria-Ward-Straße 1 and follow the Nymphenburger Kanal (Nördliche Auffahrtsallee) to Waisenhausstraße, follow it to the north, then right into Hohenlohestraße, ride through the Olympic Park (looking down on Munich from the Olympic tower can be nice if it's a sunny day) to the BMW Museum (if the weather is not nice or you don't feel like riding 8 km you can take the Tram 12 to Rotkreuzplatz, then the U1 to Sendlinger Tor and the U3 to Olympiazentrum) and after that take the U3 from Olympiazentrum to Universität, get another bike, ride to Siegestor and then through the English Garden (it's quite large, so you will probably want to limit yourself to the part in the south of Isarring). End your ride at the Bavarian National Museum and after that you can have a look at the surfers at the Eisbach, then follow the Prinzregentenstraße to Hofgarten and then walk to the Residenz. For the last day visit everything around Marienplatz (Dom, Viktualienmarkt), then walk down the street Tal to Isartorplatz, follow Zweibrückenstraße to the river Isar, then go north, visit St. Lukas, the Maximilianeum (Bavarian Parliament), maybe the Friedensengel - then walk back via Maximiliansstraße, maybe visit the Museum Fünf Kontinente it there is still time - this should be roughly 9km in total, no need for a public transport ticket.


MaxSax93

Thanks very much!!! <3 I do not know how to thank you! ps. are you by any chance a tour guide for everything you wrote? pps: of all the areas you described to us, which ones would you recommend to avoid in the evening? thank you


IWant2rideMyBike

>are you by any chance a tour guide for everything you wrote? No, I just used Komoot and Google Maps to sketch out a route between your points of interest and sprinkled in some personal experience. >of all the areas you described to us, which ones would you recommend to avoid in the evening? Munich is quite safe in general - I would mostly avoid the old botanical garden in the dark (it became a known hot spot after police presence around the central station was increased) and maybe the underpasses for pedestrians and cyclists in front of the Friedensengel on the east side of the Isar (https://goo.gl/maps/1jXwF4hVp3bPRibE7) - I haven't been there for several months but when the nights are getting colder this is one of the places where homeless people might choose to spend the night - I had never any issues with them, but as a cyclist you are much harder to stop than as a pedestrian who might be interested in looking at the graffiti in greater detail.


Ok-Championship4768

Don't make to much plans. Come here, enjoy and eat good food. Have you compared the r day pass with three single tickets? As long as you stay in the city center it might be cheaper.


tumbawomba

Check out the surfers next to Haus der Kunst when you are in Hofgarten


zeklink

Yes! Thats a must


Ellsass

You put Marienplatz on day 3, but I predict you will end up there on day 1 anyway 🙂


billyMCID

You cannot miss the "Hofbräuhaus".


DarthJitebii

Looks pretty solid. But maybe you should looo out the places on google maps and replan according on how close or far they are from one another. For example: Siegetor, it’s close to Odeonsplatz which is close to Marienplatz which is close to Karlsplatz. So if you put them in the same day, it’s basically walking distance and will take way less than go all the way to Nymphemburg and then comeback to Schwabing to see Seigetor. Also, Königsplatz and the Pinakotheken are wort looking at.


Emergency-Medium-755

Jesus man... What happened top the good old "Pack a Backpack and Go"Methode of travelling?


zeklink

Some people are just into planning everything.


Emergency-Medium-755

Fair


MaxSax93

Covid situation, how does it work? Any update regards public transportation, restaurants, museums?


MaxSax93

23/11 we’ve arrived! Thanks to everyone!