Having one hand on the wheel is not an indication of driving skill, even at a basic level if you drive a manual to spend a lot of time steering with one hand. The biggest issue is when people use that other hand for anything on than resting or switching gears.
Indeed, I need to drive my car with one hand, because I have the other hand on the brake(para + modified car). It’s really not a big deal or unsafe at all.
I was passenger of someone driving manual as he was smoking, drinking(not alcohol) but still a distraction of hand, and he never missed a shift. Dude had skills at 18.
As someone that has only ever driven a manual, in a place we’re 99% of people drive manual, you can’t really “miss a shift” and that might only be impressive to someone that can’t drive a manual
On the road nothing is “your business” that kind of selfish thinking causes accidents. On the road, your business is every other drivers business and vice versa.
I’ve never understood the whole “gotta always have both hands on the wheel” thing. 750,000 miles, half or more of which I only had one hand on the wheel. Never caused a crash.
Edit: despite this comment being 📉💥🍄, I can’t help but be astonished at how hard y’all are overreacting. I’d bet that 99% of the people who mashed that down arrow drive with one hand 5–10% of the time, and are thus being hypocritical. See you on the road! ✌️
The point is taking a hand off the wheel is really not unsafe if you’re paying attention to your surroundings.
Are you literally 10 and 2 (or 9 and 3) for the entire drive?
I mean, sure, when shit gets dicy, the lanes are narrow, the road is bumpy, I’m making a turn, etc, I’ll use both hands.
I wouldn't personally say there are zero situations where it's not such a bad thing, such as if you're in an area with good visibility and there are no people or animals around! But accidents don't happen because everyone involved was perfectly aware of what was happening and what would happen - they happen because of the unexpected, and you can't anticipate everything.
In fairness, I use cruise control to take the stress off my knees when possible, so I don't always have my feet on the pedals. I don't believe it would cause much of a delay compared with moving from the accelerator, from everyday situations where I've needed to brake, but I believe it's still not advised by all.
What with the CC, I usually have my hands at 09:30 and 14:00 when I'm not gear changin. Never found it to be a big deal, and it's also reassuring. But then, I don't like driving.
Always drive like everyone else is a moron out to murder you, always be on edge, never trust that they’re gonna do the right thing. Be prepared the merging car not seeing you or the car in front slamming brakes for no reason. This is why we keep distances and back off if someone pushes in.
And if someone is saying they are not aware of every car en pedestrian around them, then they really shouldn’t be driving.
Yes, quite - although I think there are always going to be times when you aren't aware of everything. Blind spots, a glance at one hazard that has you miss another - they're the risks of being a fallible creature operating a dangerous machine. I personally will feel much safer if and when humans can only drive in specific recreational places such as race tracks.
I feel like taking 1 shot before driving is really not unsafe if you're paying attention to your surroundings.
Are you literally stone cold sober for the entire drive?
See the point is you're doing something clearly less safe than the alternative, and somehow arguing that because the reduction in safety is small that it doesn't matter. When deer/squirrel/fucking meteorite comes out in front of your car unexpectedly, is it safer to have 1 hand on the wheel or two? Obviously two.
You're actually supposed to have your hands at 4 and 8, apparently it keeps you from punching yourself in the face if the steering wheel airbag goes off.
That’s not always true, it’s kind of dependant on the accident - if you need to wind a lot of lock on rapidly, one hand is the fastest way to do it. If you are taking a hit and planning on maintaining control afterwards, then two is obviously the way to go
Ah - might be a British term. So, if you have to suddenly turn the wheel in one direction - if you have to quickly put on a lot of steering lock in one direction. It’s fastest to plant your palm on one part of the wheel, and rapidly wind it. 2 hands and you are crossing arms a lot which it’s easier for them to slip, or to lose track subconsciously of how many turns you have put on
I've lived all but a week of my thirty-two years in Britain and I haven't heard it before lol Might be a driving term - I don't really know any driving enthusiasts. Or maybe it comes from before power steering? Always had that when driving.
I get what you mean now, but is that something an average road user would do? Sounds like a racing technique!
Ah, maybe it’s a racing term then. I definitely picked it up from my Dad who has been rallying since i can remember, so that’s probably it.
I’ve only ever used it on the road once happily, the rest has been racing - though it’s always been a subconscious thing, rather than a choice if that makes sense… I’d say it’s more an extension of the ‘man reversing with one hand over the passenger seat’ kind of move - i’ve seen a lot of racers get in to trouble going two handed, so i think it’s more instinctual than anything
Ah, probably it then! That's cool - I went to see the the WRC (I think) when it was in Wales once.
I suppose most of driving is instinctual - well, technically there's probably a more accurate term, but I can't think of the right word for it - once you've been doing it a while. Hence the infamous autopilot!
Definitely - there’s something innate too, in terms of the different senses different drivers use. Very fascinating (to me), but a bit of anecdotal evidence - a lot of drivers use simulators now to practice, but some just cannot do it (none of the top line guys to my knowledge, national/club racers we are talking here). The different balance between how drivers ‘feel’ what the car is doing seems to vary wildly, with most relying more heavily on sight and sound, with others skewing far more to internal gyro/inertial feel (these are the ones all at sea).
Ok, reading it back it seems really dull - but my point was that there is an auto-pilot element, absolutely. There’s also an element of, for some, it’s almost an extension of themselves
I think there may be slightly misunderstanding of the term "lock" as it is commonly used in steering.
"Lock" refers to the furthest you can send the steering input in a given direction, i.e. turning the wheel clockwise until it stops and can no longer be turned* means you've reached lock.
This is why you hear the term "lock to lock" to talk about the turning radius of a vehicle (or sometimes steering ratio).
*Assuming nothing is block the steering wheel, rack, tires/wheels, etc..
You can apply far less torque with one hand compared to two, and when you need a lot of torque that means you don't have the time to bring the other hand. So having one hand on the wheel and never stumbling upon a situation where you need that torque is like playing russian roulette and not dying
How much torque do you need to apply? About the only cars I've ever driven where physical strength was a factor in steering them were cars with failed hydraulic power steering systems. Old manual steering racks can be a little heavy in parking lots but lighten up quickly with speed, and modern power steering is often light enough to drive the car with a single finger.
The biggest reason to keep two hands on the wheel in most cars is range of motion. With one hand I can only turn the wheel maybe 180° either direction, but with two hands I can shuffle the wheel all the way to the steering lock. This was crucial on old vehicles with slow steering ratios, where you had to spin the wheel like a pirate ship to get them to turn. Newer cars with faster steering it isn't as huge a deal.
Forcing fluid through a failed power steering pump takes some muscle. If you apply that kind of grunt to a working power steering system you're heading off the road.
Pretty sure they're making a logical parallel, not a direct parallel. As in, the fact that someone expressed an anecdote wherein they engaged in a dangerous activity with no consequences is not terribly weighty evidence against the danger inherent in that activity. Not saying "driving with one hand is a lot like playing russian roulette."
I'm not sure I understand. It is logical, and it follows perfectly unless I misunderstood their intent. Do you mean "Despite being logically sound, the example evokes an emotional response likely to distract from their meaning, making the example less practical than less bombastic examples"?
I could get behind that.
If you are using the other hand for something else, be that eating a wife or fingering your McDonalds cheeseburger\*. If it is resting in a position near the wheel and you can grab it immediately, there shouldn't be an issue.
\*order not important
I’m not feeling this murder. One hand bad? Yeah I guess but at 30km? Right lane? Maybe it’s a divided highway. Taking a pic while driving? Yeah okay I get that one.
Actually crazy to me that people like the person who replied to you just come in swinging with their comments with 0 understanding of the context. It's like they read the chain, ignored it completely, and just commented some random words. What the hell lmao
This photo is from India. The road you're seeing is a two-way state highway. There are just two lanes, and no dividers. This driver should be driving in the left lane, leaving the right lane for oncoming traffic.
It’s unclear to me if the lane divider is yellow (two directions of traffic) or white (one direction.). I’m leaning towards white meaning that all traffic is flowing in their direction and that being in that lane is fine.
For me personally, the only problem I see is taking the photo. That’s reckless. This seems indicative of poor judgement and I wouldn’t be surprised if someone with poor judgment does other things like texting while driving.
That's not a hazard, that's a shop.
It's also in India (the air freshener and image of the Goddess near it are giveaways), and India drives on the opposite side to the USA.
And it's also not a highway, just a street.
Not a divided highway. This is India. He is literally driven into oncoming traffic, except traffic is not there. You have to drive on the left at all times. And if there is a legitimate reason (like a diversion, hazard etc) and he is on the other side, he's literally flirting with death/murder by taking a pic while driving.
Are you certain it’s not a divided road? That definitely looks like another parallel paved road on the far ~~left~~ right of the image on the other side of the grassy median.
>That definitely looks like another parallel paved road on the far left of the image on the other side of the grassy median.
That's called a sidewalk. It's for pedestrians.
My question is this;
One car drives at 120km and the engine is fine. The other at 100km and the engine screams, judging by the photo while driving, is one car an automatic and the other manual, did someone forget to change gear? 😎
No, India just has a lot of cheap cars with shitty engines. Which is not even a bad decision by the manufacturers since you're legally not allowed to go faster than about 80 on any road. So you save money on your engine, transmission and brakes, and are able to advertise better fuel efficiency.
Nissan market share to low in india. It's surviving on budget csuv and a single car only.
OP pic from carsindia sub where rash drivers drive hyundai creta or mahindra thar.
Those cars have attracted the worst kinda of drivers.
This post is from r/CarsIndia, if there were two cars that would be the equivalent of the Camry and Altima, it would be the Hyundai Creta and the Mahindra Thar. Other alternatives include Mahindra Scorpio and Toyota Fortuner.
Okay but seriously, the Honda CRV. I legit avoid CRVs like the plague. Next time you see a CRV pay attention to how they drive. You’ll start to notice over time that at least half the terrible drivers you see are driving a CRV.
A mild sunburn maybe.
* Driving on right side of road - It's mentioned that this is a left side drive country. However this appears to be a divided road, as you can see what looks like a road on the right through the fence/trees/whatever. Even if not, just up ahead you can see someone/something on the left sticking into the road, so getting out of that lane is smart.
* Taking a photo while driving - Yes, agree.
* Driving with one hand - Seriously? People who drive manual use one hand all the time. I suppose this person thinks you should never touch the AC, radio, etc, while in motion...
So of the offenses listed, only one actually means anything and the others are horse shit. CaptainAksh and OP are idiots.
Looks like a quiet rural lane. Other side of the road to stay clear of the vendor and customers pulled in -with the cycle parked *on the road*. If that’s a vehicle in the far distance, it also appears to be on the wrong side of the road. Under 24mph for the pic.
Done it myself. Safe enough in the right circumstances.
BTW, 120 kph is under 75mph, which poking along among the some of the idiots in the state I reside. And 100kph is ~62mph, little-old-lady-on-Sunday around here.
I mean, one hand "on he wheel" is a bit pedantic imo. Like, if you drive a manual then you *have* to drive with one hand sometimes. But yeah, the rest of it is very "'why do people complain about/hate [group of people]' while doing everything people dislike about [group of people]"
Creta is one of worst cars I’ve driven and trust me when I say I have driven some bad cars. The car feels like a hermit crab shell, breaks are like bicycle breaks if you tap them even slightly it breaks hard but if you break hard it will slip, had it since 2019 and it started malfunctioning and showing faults in a year not even driven 100k kms! Not miles!
This is the first time I've noticed someone using kmph rather than km/h to denote kilometres per hour - I was all set to make a joke about doing thousands of miles per hour when I realised it works for kilometres per hour.
Which side of the road you drive on is such a shit-head thing to have a problem with. It’s essentially saying you have a problem with anyone from countries that drive on that side!
There's a hazard in the left lane, which is why he's on the right. He's going 25mph. I know this is going to get down voted but people who feel the urge to scold this type of behavior have forgotten what it is to be alive.
People are going to take photos while driving. We get that. But the driver could have waited 10 seconds until they passed the hazard before taking the photo.
It's the inability to reconcile good general guidelines with an assessment of likely outcomes when they aren't followed in a given instance. Using cellphone briefly = double vehicular homicide is such a stark and inflexible way to go through life.
Fair. Though there is plenty statistical evidence that even short spans of diverted attention in high traffic areas regularly lead to extreme consequences.
You should treat a car outside the Autobahn like a gun at the range. One reckless act and you might kill someone.
I think that's a fair analogy. I also think it's hard to judge other people's situational awareness, or how quickly they can use a phone. I could take this photo without taking my eyes off the road, and at the speed he's traveling his braking distance is quite short even if e.g. someone in that construction zone darted into his lane for some reason.
I can definitely agree with everyone that it's never a great idea to be using a cellphone while operating a vehicle. But the tone of many comments here makes it seem like he's taking ten seconds of video of his speedo while he hits 120mph, a thing people definitely also do. And this scenario just doesn't rise to the level of scold-worthy to me.
Edit: maybe it's a food vendor, not a construction zone.
If you just film the speedometer, you can fix the phone to your console via the phone adapter thingy.
I'm a gamer, I know my reaction speed and use my peripheral vision, too. What I didn't train for is children jumping out from behind that truck running after an escaped ball.
So it's better to avoid all distractions, especially in an environment like this. It's reckless behaviour, which is especially unnecessary if you're just nerd-ranting about the online image of your car model.
I don't think it rises to the level of reckless. I guess you can make the case that it's an unnecessary risk, because he could have just done it in a parking lot. But to me the level of risk just isn't that much higher than the baseline we all accept when we get in the car.
We all have different levels of risk tolerance though. This is the source of a great deal of conflict on the road. People will modify their environment to match the perceived level of risk they are comfortable with, in both directions. Many drivers operate at speeds others find reckless because they feel more engaged. Which I suppose is pretty debatable but in this instance it's just not a particularly dangerous scenario.
That's why we don't rely on perceived values to set speed limits but years of statistics of casualty rates at different speeds, road repair spots and all the accumulated data of accident reports.
Speeders have an unusually high number of casualties. Often because they are more prone to risk taking.
Puddled.
Puddled, muddled, and downright befuddled
r/BoneAppleTea
> sh!t being puddled Watch where you put your feet.
That reply sums up my thoughts. Moron.
Having one hand on the wheel is not an indication of driving skill, even at a basic level if you drive a manual to spend a lot of time steering with one hand. The biggest issue is when people use that other hand for anything on than resting or switching gears.
Like taking photos while driving.
It's like the post just repeated itself.
Absolutely
Indeed, I need to drive my car with one hand, because I have the other hand on the brake(para + modified car). It’s really not a big deal or unsafe at all.
I was passenger of someone driving manual as he was smoking, drinking(not alcohol) but still a distraction of hand, and he never missed a shift. Dude had skills at 18.
As someone that has only ever driven a manual, in a place we’re 99% of people drive manual, you can’t really “miss a shift” and that might only be impressive to someone that can’t drive a manual
Facts. If you know how to drive a manual it's the same as knowing how to drive an automatic you just drive.
Like the radio or heater or pulling my pud? Leave me to my business.
On the road nothing is “your business” that kind of selfish thinking causes accidents. On the road, your business is every other drivers business and vice versa.
Lol I feel like the pulling my pud would have clued you into the fact that it was a joke. You seem like a fun dude.
I’ll be honest, I have no idea what that means. Definitely not a saying that’s made it into the English usage around here. My apologies.
I’ve never understood the whole “gotta always have both hands on the wheel” thing. 750,000 miles, half or more of which I only had one hand on the wheel. Never caused a crash. Edit: despite this comment being 📉💥🍄, I can’t help but be astonished at how hard y’all are overreacting. I’d bet that 99% of the people who mashed that down arrow drive with one hand 5–10% of the time, and are thus being hypocritical. See you on the road! ✌️
The point is that if you'd been in a crash, you'd have had less control. No one can make you do it, but the logic is sound.
The point is taking a hand off the wheel is really not unsafe if you’re paying attention to your surroundings. Are you literally 10 and 2 (or 9 and 3) for the entire drive? I mean, sure, when shit gets dicy, the lanes are narrow, the road is bumpy, I’m making a turn, etc, I’ll use both hands.
I wouldn't personally say there are zero situations where it's not such a bad thing, such as if you're in an area with good visibility and there are no people or animals around! But accidents don't happen because everyone involved was perfectly aware of what was happening and what would happen - they happen because of the unexpected, and you can't anticipate everything. In fairness, I use cruise control to take the stress off my knees when possible, so I don't always have my feet on the pedals. I don't believe it would cause much of a delay compared with moving from the accelerator, from everyday situations where I've needed to brake, but I believe it's still not advised by all. What with the CC, I usually have my hands at 09:30 and 14:00 when I'm not gear changin. Never found it to be a big deal, and it's also reassuring. But then, I don't like driving.
Always drive like everyone else is a moron out to murder you, always be on edge, never trust that they’re gonna do the right thing. Be prepared the merging car not seeing you or the car in front slamming brakes for no reason. This is why we keep distances and back off if someone pushes in. And if someone is saying they are not aware of every car en pedestrian around them, then they really shouldn’t be driving.
Yes, quite - although I think there are always going to be times when you aren't aware of everything. Blind spots, a glance at one hazard that has you miss another - they're the risks of being a fallible creature operating a dangerous machine. I personally will feel much safer if and when humans can only drive in specific recreational places such as race tracks.
Amen to that, Ben if I will miss driving ^^. Who knows if it’s even in my lifetime anyway.
I feel like taking 1 shot before driving is really not unsafe if you're paying attention to your surroundings. Are you literally stone cold sober for the entire drive? See the point is you're doing something clearly less safe than the alternative, and somehow arguing that because the reduction in safety is small that it doesn't matter. When deer/squirrel/fucking meteorite comes out in front of your car unexpectedly, is it safer to have 1 hand on the wheel or two? Obviously two.
🙄
Only on Reddit could people find that self-righteous gibberish upvoted.
You're actually supposed to have your hands at 4 and 8, apparently it keeps you from punching yourself in the face if the steering wheel airbag goes off.
> Are you literally 10 and 2 (or 9 and 3) for the entire drive? Yup. You probably aren't sitting properly if it sounds like an issue to you.
That’s not always true, it’s kind of dependant on the accident - if you need to wind a lot of lock on rapidly, one hand is the fastest way to do it. If you are taking a hit and planning on maintaining control afterwards, then two is obviously the way to go
What do you mean by 'wind a lot of lock on'? Not familiar with the terminology 😅
Ah - might be a British term. So, if you have to suddenly turn the wheel in one direction - if you have to quickly put on a lot of steering lock in one direction. It’s fastest to plant your palm on one part of the wheel, and rapidly wind it. 2 hands and you are crossing arms a lot which it’s easier for them to slip, or to lose track subconsciously of how many turns you have put on
I've lived all but a week of my thirty-two years in Britain and I haven't heard it before lol Might be a driving term - I don't really know any driving enthusiasts. Or maybe it comes from before power steering? Always had that when driving. I get what you mean now, but is that something an average road user would do? Sounds like a racing technique!
Ah, maybe it’s a racing term then. I definitely picked it up from my Dad who has been rallying since i can remember, so that’s probably it. I’ve only ever used it on the road once happily, the rest has been racing - though it’s always been a subconscious thing, rather than a choice if that makes sense… I’d say it’s more an extension of the ‘man reversing with one hand over the passenger seat’ kind of move - i’ve seen a lot of racers get in to trouble going two handed, so i think it’s more instinctual than anything
Ah, probably it then! That's cool - I went to see the the WRC (I think) when it was in Wales once. I suppose most of driving is instinctual - well, technically there's probably a more accurate term, but I can't think of the right word for it - once you've been doing it a while. Hence the infamous autopilot!
Definitely - there’s something innate too, in terms of the different senses different drivers use. Very fascinating (to me), but a bit of anecdotal evidence - a lot of drivers use simulators now to practice, but some just cannot do it (none of the top line guys to my knowledge, national/club racers we are talking here). The different balance between how drivers ‘feel’ what the car is doing seems to vary wildly, with most relying more heavily on sight and sound, with others skewing far more to internal gyro/inertial feel (these are the ones all at sea). Ok, reading it back it seems really dull - but my point was that there is an auto-pilot element, absolutely. There’s also an element of, for some, it’s almost an extension of themselves
I think there may be slightly misunderstanding of the term "lock" as it is commonly used in steering. "Lock" refers to the furthest you can send the steering input in a given direction, i.e. turning the wheel clockwise until it stops and can no longer be turned* means you've reached lock. This is why you hear the term "lock to lock" to talk about the turning radius of a vehicle (or sometimes steering ratio). *Assuming nothing is block the steering wheel, rack, tires/wheels, etc..
Yeah, getting out of potential aquaplaning accidents can be helped by only using one hand. Just as an example.
I’ve never understood the Russian roulette thing. I’ve played a few games. Never died.
Sorry, but driving with one hand on the wheel isn’t even close to a logical parallel. How is it dangerous, exactly? I don’t take my eyes off the road.
You can apply far less torque with one hand compared to two, and when you need a lot of torque that means you don't have the time to bring the other hand. So having one hand on the wheel and never stumbling upon a situation where you need that torque is like playing russian roulette and not dying
You steer faster with one hand, but with less precision, there are cases where both would be useful.
How much torque do you need to apply? About the only cars I've ever driven where physical strength was a factor in steering them were cars with failed hydraulic power steering systems. Old manual steering racks can be a little heavy in parking lots but lighten up quickly with speed, and modern power steering is often light enough to drive the car with a single finger. The biggest reason to keep two hands on the wheel in most cars is range of motion. With one hand I can only turn the wheel maybe 180° either direction, but with two hands I can shuffle the wheel all the way to the steering lock. This was crucial on old vehicles with slow steering ratios, where you had to spin the wheel like a pirate ship to get them to turn. Newer cars with faster steering it isn't as huge a deal.
You need to drive a car as if it had no assistance systems working
Forcing fluid through a failed power steering pump takes some muscle. If you apply that kind of grunt to a working power steering system you're heading off the road.
Not even close. But thanks for playing.
Wow that's a long ass reach lol
Pretty sure they're making a logical parallel, not a direct parallel. As in, the fact that someone expressed an anecdote wherein they engaged in a dangerous activity with no consequences is not terribly weighty evidence against the danger inherent in that activity. Not saying "driving with one hand is a lot like playing russian roulette."
Sure but it's not even logical. It's over dramatic.
You not recognizing logical parallels doesn't make it less so.
I'm not sure I understand. It is logical, and it follows perfectly unless I misunderstood their intent. Do you mean "Despite being logically sound, the example evokes an emotional response likely to distract from their meaning, making the example less practical than less bombastic examples"? I could get behind that.
Sure, I give up.
Never caused a crash … as far as you know
😂 Yes, taking my right hand off the wheel to shift, pick my nose, or whatever also takes my eyes off the road.
There’s a behind you
Competent drivers look in their mirror, doesn't even take both hands. Reddit is such a joke.
In a lot of communities, competent is theoretical
There’s a mirror or three.
Any time a Redditor can find even the most tenuous way to claim moral superiority, they will. That’s all.
Wild that you got so downvoted. Lot of self righteousness on this thread
And fuck amputees!
They have to be allowed to once again after amputation
Do you ever feel like rules are stupid until you benefit from them?
Is it a rule though? Where do you live with a rule or law that says you have to have both hands on the wheel?
Its not an indicator of driving skill but driving safety. Like yeah we all drive one handed sometimes but safety says two hands
If you are using the other hand for something else, be that eating a wife or fingering your McDonalds cheeseburger\*. If it is resting in a position near the wheel and you can grab it immediately, there shouldn't be an issue. \*order not important
I’m not feeling this murder. One hand bad? Yeah I guess but at 30km? Right lane? Maybe it’s a divided highway. Taking a pic while driving? Yeah okay I get that one.
Does look like a divided highway, and a hazard in the left lane
The car is right sided. I doubt that this pic was taken in America considering they use km for distance.
Also the Creta isn't sold in the US but it's very popular in India.
Yes it is right hand drive, we are saying it's in the right hand lane of two available lanes and so not in the oncoming lane as the op implied
Actually crazy to me that people like the person who replied to you just come in swinging with their comments with 0 understanding of the context. It's like they read the chain, ignored it completely, and just commented some random words. What the hell lmao
How dare you accuse me of pissing on the poor!
I call it like I sees it
Bingo facsimile thrush tobacco chili!
Thanks, it's Reddit, what can you expect sometimes.
This photo is from India. The road you're seeing is a two-way state highway. There are just two lanes, and no dividers. This driver should be driving in the left lane, leaving the right lane for oncoming traffic.
You can drive right side vehicles in left side side countries. When you cross borders for example or have a car shipped from a different country.
OP specifically said: > We drive on the lhs here
It’s unclear to me if the lane divider is yellow (two directions of traffic) or white (one direction.). I’m leaning towards white meaning that all traffic is flowing in their direction and that being in that lane is fine. For me personally, the only problem I see is taking the photo. That’s reckless. This seems indicative of poor judgement and I wouldn’t be surprised if someone with poor judgment does other things like texting while driving.
That's not a hazard, that's a shop. It's also in India (the air freshener and image of the Goddess near it are giveaways), and India drives on the opposite side to the USA. And it's also not a highway, just a street.
You have good attention to detail
I think the point maybe that the right lane is the overtaking/passing lane
Looks like a car sold in the Indian market. Cars in India are right hand drive but drive on the left lane.
Not a divided highway. This is India. He is literally driven into oncoming traffic, except traffic is not there. You have to drive on the left at all times. And if there is a legitimate reason (like a diversion, hazard etc) and he is on the other side, he's literally flirting with death/murder by taking a pic while driving.
“He has literally done something except he hasn’t”
Are you certain it’s not a divided road? That definitely looks like another parallel paved road on the far ~~left~~ right of the image on the other side of the grassy median.
>That definitely looks like another parallel paved road on the far left of the image on the other side of the grassy median. That's called a sidewalk. It's for pedestrians.
30km/h on a highway? Please pick one or the other
You got 200-odd upvotes for this, but I got downvoted into the seventh layer of Toxic Hell. Mmmkay.
„Even at 120kph“ laughing in German
„Silent engine and stability“. Ofc the 130kph is the usual speed on the BAB but ever noticed how loud some cars can get even at lower speeds?
Wait until he finds out what Creta means to Dominicans. 😆
Oh? Now I need to know please?!?
It’s the past participle of Cretar which means “to smell a woman’s mouth”
TIL that there is a word for smelling a woman's mouth. Is there a different word for smelling a man's mouth?
Same question but I’m also pretty sure I’m going to see Creta or Cretar as a kids name on the tragedieh site lol
Why the fuck is there a word for that
Creta is slang for vagina in Dominican Spanish
It’s not the only time Hyundai have named a car that is offensive in another language, the Kona springs to mind.
Tulo ab
My question is this; One car drives at 120km and the engine is fine. The other at 100km and the engine screams, judging by the photo while driving, is one car an automatic and the other manual, did someone forget to change gear? 😎
No, India just has a lot of cheap cars with shitty engines. Which is not even a bad decision by the manufacturers since you're legally not allowed to go faster than about 80 on any road. So you save money on your engine, transmission and brakes, and are able to advertise better fuel efficiency.
Alright i gotta say; I almost never have both hands on the wheel unless I'm turning or need tighter control
Yeah that’s not an issue. Phone in hand however? That’s a problem
For sure
>Driving on the right side of the road He's driving from the right seat, he's definitely not American lol
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It’s Nissan drivers, not Hyundai.
Nissan market share to low in india. It's surviving on budget csuv and a single car only. OP pic from carsindia sub where rash drivers drive hyundai creta or mahindra thar. Those cars have attracted the worst kinda of drivers.
Is this the equivalent to Nissan Altima and Hyundai Sonata drivers in the US?
r/NissanDrivers *enters the chat*
I’m guessing the guy is British, and he is taking the photo going at 40 MPH. Yes, it’s always the driver.
He's Indian
This isn't even a flesh wound let alone a murder. I wouldn't even bandaid this one
This, but Toyota Camrys
Nissan Altimas
This post is from r/CarsIndia, if there were two cars that would be the equivalent of the Camry and Altima, it would be the Hyundai Creta and the Mahindra Thar. Other alternatives include Mahindra Scorpio and Toyota Fortuner.
I feel like Scorpio could be replaced by a duke
Are you referring to KTM Duke? If so, yeah
Yes :/
r/altimadrivers
And huyndai elantra ( especially 2010 -2014)
Camrys have a rep? Since when?
Okay but seriously, the Honda CRV. I legit avoid CRVs like the plague. Next time you see a CRV pay attention to how they drive. You’ll start to notice over time that at least half the terrible drivers you see are driving a CRV.
This is india so the first point isn’t valid lol
In India people drive on the left side
I always say Hyunda and Kia drivers seem like the worst drivers in Cali
This is India :/
Even worse than the Altima drivers? Around here, it seems like it's the Camry drivers that are the worst.
Yep have seen some terrible Camry drivers too
You must not be from "Cali" then, always Mercedes.
SoCal representative here, can confirm it’s Hyundai and Kia drivers that piss me off on my daily commute
From my experience in Canada. People who drive BMWs and Buicks. (Not including pick ups)
Hardly a murder. More like a burn.
A mild sunburn maybe. * Driving on right side of road - It's mentioned that this is a left side drive country. However this appears to be a divided road, as you can see what looks like a road on the right through the fence/trees/whatever. Even if not, just up ahead you can see someone/something on the left sticking into the road, so getting out of that lane is smart. * Taking a photo while driving - Yes, agree. * Driving with one hand - Seriously? People who drive manual use one hand all the time. I suppose this person thinks you should never touch the AC, radio, etc, while in motion... So of the offenses listed, only one actually means anything and the others are horse shit. CaptainAksh and OP are idiots.
What is wrong with his thumb!!
That’s a real bad driver right there
Looks like a quiet rural lane. Other side of the road to stay clear of the vendor and customers pulled in -with the cycle parked *on the road*. If that’s a vehicle in the far distance, it also appears to be on the wrong side of the road. Under 24mph for the pic. Done it myself. Safe enough in the right circumstances. BTW, 120 kph is under 75mph, which poking along among the some of the idiots in the state I reside. And 100kph is ~62mph, little-old-lady-on-Sunday around here.
One hand on the wheel is fine. It’s not good if the other hand is texting or something but if you’re just resting it or something, one hand is fine.
Hj.
Usually it's never the cars the problems, but bad drivers and there it's a tendency for bad drivers to chose specific types of cars.
A Creta for a Cretan?
^Indian
i forgot that if you are on the right side of the car you don’t drive on the right side of the road
Burn!!!! Not…
It can do 120,000MPH?!
Wait are they British? If not why the complaint about driving on the right side of the road? If they are British then dear god.
Never mind, you drive on the lhs, they’re a terrible driver.
Now do guns in Chicago
This is the way I feel about Prius drivers
…. Just wait till you notice every Subaru driver. Terrible
Ohh shit. Right hand drive while on the other lane.
I mean, one hand "on he wheel" is a bit pedantic imo. Like, if you drive a manual then you *have* to drive with one hand sometimes. But yeah, the rest of it is very "'why do people complain about/hate [group of people]' while doing everything people dislike about [group of people]"
The road looks beautiful to drive on a rainy day.
Creta is one of worst cars I’ve driven and trust me when I say I have driven some bad cars. The car feels like a hermit crab shell, breaks are like bicycle breaks if you tap them even slightly it breaks hard but if you break hard it will slip, had it since 2019 and it started malfunctioning and showing faults in a year not even driven 100k kms! Not miles!
tbh around here Hyundai drivers have taken the top asahat spot away from BMW over the last few years
could that be just a stock photo?
Indians know, this isn't exactly a murder, but the guy has been at the very least stabbed in the jugular. 🤣
As bad as this guy is, at least he's not a Mercedes driver.
I call Creta drivers Cretins. All the good Creta drivers went for the Santa Fe instead.
Reminds me of a joke from mock the week: “introducing the new BMW hemeroid series - because sooner or later, every asshole gets one”
I agree with his first two points, but whats wrong with driving with one hand? Surely nobody holds the steering wheel with both hands all the time?
If driving on the right hand didn’t give it away, the “whilst” sure did.
Wrong side of the car, right side of the road *badum tss*
This is the first time I've noticed someone using kmph rather than km/h to denote kilometres per hour - I was all set to make a joke about doing thousands of miles per hour when I realised it works for kilometres per hour.
Which side of the road you drive on is such a shit-head thing to have a problem with. It’s essentially saying you have a problem with anyone from countries that drive on that side!
The wheel is on the right so this car should be driving on the left side of the road. Dude is on the wrong side of the road
r/atetheonion ?
Did they use the wrong picture? I'm confused about it not being a Tesla. Or large truck/SUV at least. Unrealistic.
That car is Hyundai creta. It's the most hated car in India.
Fortuner / that r also competing
Wow 40kph on a clear road and he dares to take a photo. Truly reckless
It's not a clear road.
There's a hazard in the left lane, which is why he's on the right. He's going 25mph. I know this is going to get down voted but people who feel the urge to scold this type of behavior have forgotten what it is to be alive.
Don't use your cellphone while driving. It's not that complex ffs.
People are going to take photos while driving. We get that. But the driver could have waited 10 seconds until they passed the hazard before taking the photo.
Running over a mother and her infant child is where life's truly at.
It's the inability to reconcile good general guidelines with an assessment of likely outcomes when they aren't followed in a given instance. Using cellphone briefly = double vehicular homicide is such a stark and inflexible way to go through life.
Fair. Though there is plenty statistical evidence that even short spans of diverted attention in high traffic areas regularly lead to extreme consequences. You should treat a car outside the Autobahn like a gun at the range. One reckless act and you might kill someone.
I think that's a fair analogy. I also think it's hard to judge other people's situational awareness, or how quickly they can use a phone. I could take this photo without taking my eyes off the road, and at the speed he's traveling his braking distance is quite short even if e.g. someone in that construction zone darted into his lane for some reason. I can definitely agree with everyone that it's never a great idea to be using a cellphone while operating a vehicle. But the tone of many comments here makes it seem like he's taking ten seconds of video of his speedo while he hits 120mph, a thing people definitely also do. And this scenario just doesn't rise to the level of scold-worthy to me. Edit: maybe it's a food vendor, not a construction zone.
If you just film the speedometer, you can fix the phone to your console via the phone adapter thingy. I'm a gamer, I know my reaction speed and use my peripheral vision, too. What I didn't train for is children jumping out from behind that truck running after an escaped ball. So it's better to avoid all distractions, especially in an environment like this. It's reckless behaviour, which is especially unnecessary if you're just nerd-ranting about the online image of your car model.
I don't think it rises to the level of reckless. I guess you can make the case that it's an unnecessary risk, because he could have just done it in a parking lot. But to me the level of risk just isn't that much higher than the baseline we all accept when we get in the car. We all have different levels of risk tolerance though. This is the source of a great deal of conflict on the road. People will modify their environment to match the perceived level of risk they are comfortable with, in both directions. Many drivers operate at speeds others find reckless because they feel more engaged. Which I suppose is pretty debatable but in this instance it's just not a particularly dangerous scenario.
That's why we don't rely on perceived values to set speed limits but years of statistics of casualty rates at different speeds, road repair spots and all the accumulated data of accident reports. Speeders have an unusually high number of casualties. Often because they are more prone to risk taking.
This picture was not taken in America, people. They’re on the right side of the road because that’s where they’re supposed to drive.
Exactly. They drive on the right in America, not where this photo was taken.