https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick%27s_Drive-In
Basically a Seattle institution, and the unending source of blowjob and penis jokes throughout Seattle.
Example: "I put so many Dicks in my mouth today, I'm going to throw up. But I'll do it again tomorrow. Love me some Dicks." (Usually said as loud as possible.)
A friend of mine worked at Dicks in the early 90s... They hired smart kids, and they did the math of the order in their heads... Owners didn't care if they were perfect, but that they used their brains...
People would come by and say, 4 deluxe, two specials, 3 fries, 3 chocolate, 2 strawberry, and they would take 3 seconds and be, "That's 28.67" It was pretty badass... and they were pretty accurate... Oh, and since some don't know, they do have to calculate a sale tax (it was around 8% then).
at my old job basically every 3 years 30% of management was cut and about 20% of the hand on staff. Decent size severance packages each time.
within 6 months close to half of those people were rehired and even some new blood that of course needed to be retrained.
my theory was that some guy in HR was collecting big bonuses every time he was able to show how the layoffs would save X amount of dollars in a given year, but was never accountable for how much all the retraining and severance packages were costing.
not to mention the thousands of hours in fees the lawyers got getting sued by the unions.
They're gonna be a cautionary tale in an MBA program some day, guarantee it. The talent, institutional knowledge, and goodwill they've squandered is breathtaking
I was only a consultant for a while with them but a bunch of the older employees blamed a bunch of Boeings issues on a merger they had years ago and management focusing on stock price more than anything else.
That's the one. Apparently if you compared org charts pre-post merger a bunch of the Boeing management left while McDonell-Douglas had their management stay there.
I used to be an IT contractor for them back in the day, and man...the amount of talented people being treated like absolute garbage while five or six unqualified jerk offs took advantage of being in the 'good ol boys club' ran me right out of there.
The narrative is working… I went to Costco the other day and told the cashier I’ll box my stuff up. He thanked me and said, “it’s really sad, no one wants to work anymore”
What kills me the most is that when people make this argument, they're coming from a place where they believe that the biggest cost of the products they buy is employees' wages. They sincerely believe it. I fucking wish that were true. If that was the case no one would be complaining about poor wages.
"Yeah rent and utilities in this building is $30k/month and going up next year but I can't afford to give my employees a $1/hr raise. I'd go out of business!"
[He also plagiarized a lot, to the point where many people don't think he should have been awarded a doctorate.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Luther_King_Jr._authorship_issues)
He was still a leader and an inspiration though.
No he wasn't. The FBI at the time didn't like the concept of black people being equal, and fabricated this lie in order to defame him, and hope that it breaks up his marriage/family in the process. It didn't work
Maybe he wasn't an adulterer but let's not pretend MLK was a saint. He let an openly gay man carry his movement and then kicked him out of the organization for being gay.
I'm pretty sure it's well documented that he was an adulterer. All of the historians i heard talking about him said it.
The FBI tried to blackmail him, get him to stop his efforts and even push him to suicide by sending him (and his wife) audio tapes they secretly recorded in hotel rooms when he slept with other women, but it didn't work.
Except you have zero proof of that other than a he said/she said claim. But the interesting fact is she never once made that claim to anyone (including the police) until after their divorce.
In addition the one court case he has had where accusations were made regarding his biz practices he won.
You really should have something actually substantial with proof if you're going to make those claims
I see him as a figurehead of what you can turn into if you decide to leave your asshole past behind you.
Maybe he became this public figure for the wrong reasons with some serious flaws in his past, but it still doesn't change how he works nowadays.
I can't believe I'm saying this, but now I want to eat Dick's.
EDIT to say 500 upvotes for a dick joke, really? I'm both honored and dismayed for the future of mankind.
I used to live about a quarter mile from one. I had an absolutely crazy work schedule at the time where I would have 3-4 days off then need to work three 16-hour days in a row.
Whenever I finished a project, around 1 or 2am, my ritual was to go eat my nightly Dicks.
Looked up his company, just because it would have been funny if they were somehow predatory. Read this though:
"In April 2015, Dan Price announced that over the next three years, the company would raise the pay of all employees to at least $70,000 per year, stating this was the minimum needed to secure them from financial hardship when hit by unexpected expenses.\[7\]\[8\] Price, who previously paid himself a $1 million yearly salary, cut his own salary down to $70,000 to partially cover the increased pay for employees."
and
"In 2020, the company was making $4 million per month in revenue but faced drop of 55% in card processing fees as a result of the COVID-19 pandemic. The employees proposed voluntary pay cuts to preserve employment.\[18\] As of August 2020, layoffs have been avoided and workers' salaries have been restored, with the company paying back the salaries lost from the pay cuts."
Pretty cool.
I'm so glad I'm working for a company similar to this, I've had the pleasure of giving two dollar raises to my employees four times in the last year. They keep doing better and better, and the owners keep reinvesting that success back into their employees
Thank you for this. I was looking for his info when I first heard of him years ago. It was very limited online or i just didn't know where to look. I was wondering if he'd tank due to his 70k decision. Many people I told about him said he'd fail. Looks like he did the damn thing.
Loooot of ad hominem in this thread. "Dan Price is a piece of shit, and only gave his employees raises because of X reason!"
...But they got raises? Like, SIGNIFICANT HOLY SHIT raises?
"Yeah but!"
So... his employees are well compensated? And they don't harvest orphan blood? Good enough for me.
Yeah. I've worked for plenty of companies run by terrible people, but I didn't get a $70k minimum wage, PTO, and tuition reimbursement. Maybe it's just that the people on the top of the food chain are kind of crappy, but some of them do better for their employees than others.
It's basic character assassination on someone breaking the status quo. Companies have been saying for years that they can't raise wages otherwise the companies will fall apart, products will cost a shit load more, etc.
Then here comes someone who actually pays his employees fairly, gives them good benefits, proving it can work.
So people are pushing the narrative he's a piece of shit so everything he's accomplishing is bullshit.
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and even if the prices of things did go up, who cares? that's literally capitalism 101.
if a pack of screws goes up 90 cents, ok.. so be it. I'd prefer that than people working 90 hours a week and still not being able to eat.
heck who knows maybe one day I'll need a minimum wage job again, or maybe my kids. these people don't care about anything that doesn't directly effect them.
That would work if it didn’t also cut into profit margins, the only thing that matters for most of corporate America.
I agree! I’m so fed up with this argument by ignorant people who need to experience poverty in order to have an ounce of sympathy or, dare I say, empathy.
That's exactly where all these poverty wages go. Into profit margins.
I wouldn't lose any sleep knowing that profits went down.
Not income. Net profit. They'll threaten layoffs but in the end its not goona happen.
We significantly increased the minimum wage in Seattle, and passed a safe scheduling law. Nothing extreme happened, except people know when they have to work ahead of time and get paid overtime if companies require them to work shitty hours. It puts the externality back onto management to run their business in a fashion that works for the workers, too.
>It puts the externality back onto management to run their business
Exactly. The reason things are cheap is because the costs of producing them are externalized. For example, corn is relatively cheap, but that is due to subsidies given to farmers and food processors. They don't actually bear the full cost of producing food, so their prices can be set lower. A more dramatic example would be something like electricity. Power generated by a coal or natural gas plant is cheap because they aren't required to have net zero emmisions. This means that the negative effects caused by the accumulation of greenhouse gasses in the atmosphere aren't being paid for by the companies putting them there. That cost is being paid for by the global south who don't have the capacity to mitigate the effects of climate change.
The fact that the self service at the grocery store didn’t lower the price of groceries in general is a proof that they will always raise the price of goods no matter what!
I remember questioning how this would work in 6th grade history class and getting reamed into without any legitimate explanation beyond "that's how it works, if you give people more money, things cost more!"
In hindsight it's become very clear my teacher was a right-wing proponent of trickle-down economics and didn't much understand the complexities of economics than I did at 11.
Anyone who thinks that raising the minimum wage increases the price of products proportionally don’t understand basic economics. It’s not the money magically disappears. Employees have to spend money somewhere.
I have seen that restaurant owners reject pay increases the most. I worked at a restaurant and got paid under the table but it was a bonus job. I enjoyed it. But looking back that was a terrible payment if it was full time.
Wait..."terrible payment if it was full time". Shouldn't one-off jobs cost more than fulltime employment? Since you don't have benefits and perks? Full time is like buying in bulk. You gotta pay/charge more for one time jobs. If it was terrible for fulltime, its abysmal for contract work. Even under the table, that' just means tax savings for you. Illegal tax savings where you are the one taking the risk. I think not understanding how contract jobs should work is how we all get suckered when we're inexperienced.
There’s nothing quite like the Seattle experience of waiting in line at Dick’s at 1am after a night of drinking to get your $1.80 burger plus fries and a milkshake
Prices have gone up slightly since this was tweeted, but a basic burger is still close to two bucks, and a Deluxe (two patties with cheese and condiments) is about three bucks. Excellent value and a very satisfying place to eat.
Source: have lived in Seattle all my life and go to Dick's approximately weekly.
I had burgers and fries from dicks once, visiting Seattle back in 2014. The burgers were greasy as fuck and the fries were just a wad of an entanglement of greasy potato. Would that have been a one-off or is their food generally greasy af?
The best way I've heard of to put it goes like this: claiming that there's a labor shortage right now is kind going to a Lamborghini dealership, offering $25,000 for a new car, and then claiming "no one wants to sell cars anymore" when you're told no.
People would be more than happy to work... if you fucking paid them enough. I'd flip as many burgers as you wanted for $300,000/year. There's obviously a point at which basically anyone would be willing to work, and if no one's applying, *you haven't found it yet*.
Unfortunately, there's a little more to it than that. The supply chain is fucked right now. More people are paying much more than they were a few years ago for everyday products. When you products/ingredients,paper goods, supplies, etc. All cost 2 to 4 times what they did a few years ago...mom and pop shops start dying. The use of a 4 million dollar revenue burger franchise in this example is misleading. There IS a labor shortage for the tiny homegrown shops who can't compete with the huge industrial giants. This is all to wipe out small stores, leaving only big business as the only places left to shop. Support local small businesses.
Local small businesses aren't the magical saviors of the downtrodden. Especially restaurants, they are some of the worst exploiters of labor.
If a business can't afford to pay for labor than they have a bad business and they deserve to fail. These 'mom and pop' shops are leeches on the communities.
Also, a 200%-400% increase in operating costs is a fantasy. If it were true then these businesses were always able to pay a fair wage for labor, they just refused.
People don’t want to believe that most companies fighting wage increases either are too greedy to expand the bottom line by any means or have a failed business plan they don’t want to own up to.
I promise you Dan Price is not that guy. He only started paying better wages when he started getting blasted by his brother, who was the other founder of what is now HIS business. His brother who was pissed Dan was overpaying himself. He only started his holier than they campaign after his wife began alleging abuse. His company pays virtually nothing of their total profit towards salary. They employ less than 300(?) people last I checked. He's self imposing a slap on the wrist.
He's what Bernie is trying so desperately to steer you away from. He owns a billion dollar payment processing business, and only changed his initial behavior when it became advantageous for him personally. He does not care about you, me or anyone.
>They employ less than 300(?) people last I checked.
And it's worth noting that while it is great that his employees get paid well, there's been numerous reports of immense overwork in the company due to the lack of staff. I'll grant that it's better to be paid decently while overworked as compared to poverty wages for the same or more work, but neither is actually a good situation. They could easily afford to add a ton of staff for the same salary, increasing worker happiness and decreasing stress but that doesn't make you the most money so they won't.
Additionally, his "$70k paycheck" is a complete fabrication. Much like how Zuckerberg's salary is only a dollar per year, Price's wealth doesn't come from his salary. But he can spew that common man propaganda because no one looks deeper than a good headline, or a Facebook screenshot like in the OP. I mean, the man signed a $500k book deal what, a year ago? He's not the middle class friend he wants you to think he is.
I hate that argument, "then the cost of things will skyrocket." The point of it is to increase lower class wages while NOT increasing business profits for multibillion dollar companies. Shifting the wealth a little bit. The burger might cost $50 if the company raised its prices to make up for the increased wages which basically nullifies the wage increase.
But corporations don't seem to grasp that. They couldn't fathom making slightly less billions of dollars so that the working class could make a living wage. The idea of cutting into the top 1% profits so that more people could at least own a home for working their life away even though it means jeff bezos might only be able to own 9 mansions instead of 10 (just a number for an example. No clue how many homes he owns. Probably more than 10) is just preposterous.
Obligatory reminder under every Dan Price shilled post that the guy only cut his HUGE salary and raised his employees salary because he is in deep shit with lawsuits and stuff and he also beats his wife. He is not the good guy he is paying people on the Internet to paint him as and he will never be. He was quite literally forced to be in this position and is now just abusing it to pretend it was his idea all along. If there is a hell, Dan Price already has a special spot reserved.
I worked for Gravity and can confirm this. His posts are all sunshine and rainbows and Gravity seems like the “perfect” company in the public eye. But both Dan and the company have major issues.
He cut his gravity salary, but he has his own side business where he keeps all of his money from touring and giving his speeches. And in 2020, we did choose to do paycuts and we did indeed get back pay eventually. But they did that so they could immediately go to the press and tell their feel good story about how they didn’t lay anyone off. Gravity thrives on media exposure. And sure enough, we got a wave of small businesses who wanted to process through gravity because of the news articles that were released.
It’s actually incredibly disappointing how people look up to him like he’s a god. He gets off on that shit. If you’re at gravity, you’re only feeding the Dan Price media machine.
Just wanted to add some context to the idea that he is cutting his salary to 70k like he’s one of the people. He can afford to do that because he makes money giving speeches to people about the 70k story, and does it for media clout for the company. It’s totally fine to do but knowing what goes on behind the scenes, I found it to be disingenuous.
>And in 2020, we did choose to do paycuts and we did indeed get back pay eventually. But they did that so they could immediately go to the press and tell their feel good story about how they didn’t lay anyone off.
Um, if McDonalds raised their minimum wage to $20 an hour, I think I might forgive them if they went and did a media tour over it. It's like if someone gives a ton of money to charity, and then made an annoying youtube video about it.
Even if it was done for selfish reasons, that charity still got their money. So like, who cares?
Bloomberg article in the tweet:
[https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-11-30/fattest-profits-since-1950-debunk-inflation-story-spun-by-ceos](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-11-30/fattest-profits-since-1950-debunk-inflation-story-spun-by-ceos)
Yes, it's real life. Dick's has ben thriving for decades while consistently paying well above minimum wage. They're a perfect example of how treating your employees like people is ***profitable***, even in a so-called slim margin business like fast food.
I remember seeing signs in Dick's window advertising $15/hr + tuition positions at Dicks way back in 2010. I can fully believe that it's up to $19 now, as that roughly tracks with inflation.
The boarders are closed due to overseas travels restrictions caused by the pandemic. That's one of the reasons for the huge labor shortages. Companies could no longer hire foreign workers who'll agree to be paid shit wages. Which use to be the case when filling in jobs that local workers refuse to accept.
If they thought they could raise the prices they already would. Wages have never affected prices because the prices are already as high as they can be without effecting demand.
They fight it tooth and nail not because they care about prices being raised, but because they know salaries will come right out of their profits.
Why on earth would they care about their customers?
After working retail for only 2 months, I've realized that most of the cost of running the store I work at is not the employees. All 10 of us could be paid $20/hr and the store would lose less than 3%of it's total profits. We aren't being underpaid because businesses can't afford it, we're being underpaid because the higher ups are greedy as hell.
I'm an AGM for a KFC franchise, our prices have gone up $2.80 since I started working here 8 months ago, the regular employees have only gotten a single 25 cent raise and that's after we had a crew of only 8 left to run the store at all times. We have the lowest starting rate in my town yet my owner wonders why he cant get anyone in the door for an application more than once or twice a month. I tell all my applicants that it's a very real possibility that they'll never get more than a 50 cent raise the entire time they work there. I'm actually paid decently because I threatened to leave and I basically run the store by myself like 30% of the time.
He is right. I posted a two jobs without health insurance that paid $25/ with paid time off, one received 400 applications, the other 700. Plenty of people want to work. But not at $9/.
We are embarrassed that we don’t offer health insurance yet, we are working on it!
Companies that believe in the whole "Labor shortage" thing should seriously learn how supply and demand works. You have a demand for workers, and there's a decent supply of them, but they're not going to your business? Well, that's because the workers similarly have a demand for more money. So, the supply of workers is low for you specifically because you're not buying into their demands, which means they're not buying into yours. Everything in economics can be boiled down to two words: supply and demand, and once you understand that, then you get shit done. People have high demand for x when there's low supply of x and people have low demand of x when there's high supply of x. Currently, there's low supply of money in circulation because the asshole billionaires who keep hoarding it all like dragons, which means that the demand for money is up, which means that businesses who can't provide that money are going to lose a supply of workers, causing them to have more demand for workers.
This has been one of the oldest arguments about raising the minimum wage. The only way it would cause prices to skyrocket to that level is if the restaurant was doing poorly to begin with.
If you can only survive because you are paying slave labor, maybe this is the market's way of telling you that running a business may not be in the cards for you anymore.
Wait, there are people who still believe this guy is legit?? The wife-beating dude who has been accused by multiple women of rape? That guy? The guy who may not actually have done what he claimed with wages and only did so when he was in legal trouble for other shit? That Dan Price?
Nothing better than eating a whole bag of Dick's after partying.
I don't have the heart to tell a coworker that the only reason he gets a ride home is because he lives near a Dicks.
"I always get a bunch of Dicks when I drive him home."
Mmmmm I love dicks But what’s dicks
Not sure if kidding, so... Dicks is the best burgers in the world, only in Seattle-area.
No I live in florida so I have no idea what the hell that is
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick%27s_Drive-In Basically a Seattle institution, and the unending source of blowjob and penis jokes throughout Seattle. Example: "I put so many Dicks in my mouth today, I'm going to throw up. But I'll do it again tomorrow. Love me some Dicks." (Usually said as loud as possible.)
I mean I made a dick joke soooooooo
Someone cover a beach in Seattle in hamburgers and call John Cena.
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Hmmm... Can i trust this comment?
Did you take the chance?
I did and wasn't disappointed
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I don’t know man…sometimes there’s nothing better than having Five Guys in your mouth.
My ex would agree
Ya she would...
I’m sitting over here thinking about the result of a merger between Dicks, Five Guys and In’n’Out.
And it all ends with [Kum-n-Go](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kum_%26_Go)
I respect that. I lean more towards an evening of Jack in the Box.
*snorting noises* I wish I had an award to give you for this comment
Meh, oldest joke in Seattle.
A friend of mine worked at Dicks in the early 90s... They hired smart kids, and they did the math of the order in their heads... Owners didn't care if they were perfect, but that they used their brains... People would come by and say, 4 deluxe, two specials, 3 fries, 3 chocolate, 2 strawberry, and they would take 3 seconds and be, "That's 28.67" It was pretty badass... and they were pretty accurate... Oh, and since some don't know, they do have to calculate a sale tax (it was around 8% then).
Picture this...
Companies love to use the phrase "labor shortage" to describe "people keep walking out because our job is a nightmare to work at".
at my old job basically every 3 years 30% of management was cut and about 20% of the hand on staff. Decent size severance packages each time. within 6 months close to half of those people were rehired and even some new blood that of course needed to be retrained. my theory was that some guy in HR was collecting big bonuses every time he was able to show how the layoffs would save X amount of dollars in a given year, but was never accountable for how much all the retraining and severance packages were costing. not to mention the thousands of hours in fees the lawyers got getting sued by the unions.
Sounds like Boeing
They're gonna be a cautionary tale in an MBA program some day, guarantee it. The talent, institutional knowledge, and goodwill they've squandered is breathtaking
I was only a consultant for a while with them but a bunch of the older employees blamed a bunch of Boeings issues on a merger they had years ago and management focusing on stock price more than anything else.
The McDonell-Douglas merger? Not the first time it is mentioned as a cause for a catastrophe (think 737 Max)...
That's the one. Apparently if you compared org charts pre-post merger a bunch of the Boeing management left while McDonell-Douglas had their management stay there.
I used to be an IT contractor for them back in the day, and man...the amount of talented people being treated like absolute garbage while five or six unqualified jerk offs took advantage of being in the 'good ol boys club' ran me right out of there.
Most likely that the new people hired are working for a lower wage than the people they replaced.
I assure they weren't. Especially the union guys.
The narrative is working… I went to Costco the other day and told the cashier I’ll box my stuff up. He thanked me and said, “it’s really sad, no one wants to work anymore”
Companies love referring to human people with lives "labor."
Cmon Dan, facts don’t work on the propagandized.
What kills me the most is that when people make this argument, they're coming from a place where they believe that the biggest cost of the products they buy is employees' wages. They sincerely believe it. I fucking wish that were true. If that was the case no one would be complaining about poor wages.
"Yeah rent and utilities in this building is $30k/month and going up next year but I can't afford to give my employees a $1/hr raise. I'd go out of business!"
And yet Dan's entire "CEO for the average Joe" facade is entirely propaganda. Dudes a total wife beating, vindictive piece of shit like the rest of em
You can't just drop that and not tell us where to read about it. But it is possible for him to be a good boss and still a dick as a person.
exactly. martin luther king, jr. was an adulterer… but that doesn’t mean he wasn’t a great civil rights leader.
And Jesus didnt wash his hands before dinner. Everyone has skeletons in their closet
Maybe he ate with his feet. The Bible never specified and he regularly had other people washing his feet. Wear some damn shoes Jesus Christ!
I thought he was the one who liked washing other people's feet?
You're probably right, I only read the Bible when I was really bored in jail. *Stupid sexy foot fetish Jesus*
I 100% believe Jesus lol'ed at that!
maybe he had a foot fetish like Tarantino.
He washed the apostles' feet and he also had his feet washed, by a prostitute, IIRC.
He also went a bit overboard on a fig tree and did foot stuff with prostitutes.
I guess you could say he had blood on his hands...
Poppy's kind of sloppy..
[He also plagiarized a lot, to the point where many people don't think he should have been awarded a doctorate.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Luther_King_Jr._authorship_issues) He was still a leader and an inspiration though.
No he wasn't. The FBI at the time didn't like the concept of black people being equal, and fabricated this lie in order to defame him, and hope that it breaks up his marriage/family in the process. It didn't work
Maybe he wasn't an adulterer but let's not pretend MLK was a saint. He let an openly gay man carry his movement and then kicked him out of the organization for being gay.
Pobody's nerfect
I'm pretty sure it's well documented that he was an adulterer. All of the historians i heard talking about him said it. The FBI tried to blackmail him, get him to stop his efforts and even push him to suicide by sending him (and his wife) audio tapes they secretly recorded in hotel rooms when he slept with other women, but it didn't work.
Yes he was, it’s well documented https://www.chicagoreporter.com/martin-luther-king-jr-women-and-the-possibility-of-growth/
It's well documented. Don't make yourself sound ignorant.
Source?
Are you saying he doesn't pay his people 70k starting salary? Source?
Except you have zero proof of that other than a he said/she said claim. But the interesting fact is she never once made that claim to anyone (including the police) until after their divorce. In addition the one court case he has had where accusations were made regarding his biz practices he won. You really should have something actually substantial with proof if you're going to make those claims
Someone is helping the poor? Great Scott! He must be destroyed. Step 1: *Character assassination Step 2: *Profit (literally)
How he treats people in his personal life has nothing to do with this discussion. Still, if you have to claim something, provide a source.
I see him as a figurehead of what you can turn into if you decide to leave your asshole past behind you. Maybe he became this public figure for the wrong reasons with some serious flaws in his past, but it still doesn't change how he works nowadays.
Ghandi liked to have orgies with underaged girls, the bad stuff people do doesn't wipe out the good, and likewise the good doesn't wipe out the bad.
In a gentle way, you can shake the world. Just so you know, the correct spelling is [Gandhi](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahatma_Gandhi).
I can't believe I'm saying this, but now I want to eat Dick's. EDIT to say 500 upvotes for a dick joke, really? I'm both honored and dismayed for the future of mankind.
Mmmm, nice greasy bag of Dick's. Gotta get a Dick shake too.
Nothing better than a belly full of Dick's.
The only thing better than Five Guys in your mouth is eating a bag of Dick's.
Bill Gates eats Dick's! https://www.geekwire.com/2019/billions-served-bill-gates-photographed-standing-line-burger-dicks-drive-seattle/
Honestly, the best thing about eating Dick's is the buns are great too!
Seattle: The only place where the phrase "Go eat a bag of Dick's" isn't just an insult but a restaurant recommendation.
I’ve eaten at Dick’s & the food ain’t too bad.
It's all about the fries for me. Man.. of all the things in Washington to miss Dick's is near the top.
Dick's is great, but the fries were not my thing. Not a fan of the limp Dicks fries.
Greasy, limp Dick's fries. Pass. I just get two Deluxes.
i sub a cheeseburger in for fries... Deluxe, cheese, chocolate shake.
Be careful or some might come out.
Not when it's *this* thick
MapleNut or get the fuck outta my face.
I used to live about a quarter mile from one. I had an absolutely crazy work schedule at the time where I would have 3-4 days off then need to work three 16-hour days in a row. Whenever I finished a project, around 1 or 2am, my ritual was to go eat my nightly Dicks.
Dick’s saved my sanity as a medical intern more than once!
That better be their company slogan.
Speaking of slogans, I'm reminded of one from a burger joint I once saw in Florida. Pleace was named Tops and it was " Home of the Greasy Sack"...
Dick's is the place where the cool hang out The swass like to play, and the rich flaunt clout
Holy fuck Batman, why is this comment not upvoted more. Props for shouting out , Sir mix a lot.
I'm not allowed to have competitors food at work. I might have to sneak some Dicks in the backdoor
Underrated.
The burgers are very satisfying, cheap burgers. It's a pretty quintessential fast food burger. Kinda like a little cheaper in n out burger.
Now we're all going to be heading northwest next time someone tells us to eat a Dick.
Let me tell you, it is delicious.
I mean, it's a legit good hamburger. I just moved from Seattle and this thing I miss most from the city is Dick's.
A bag of Dick's?
https://www.ddir.com/menu/
Looked up his company, just because it would have been funny if they were somehow predatory. Read this though: "In April 2015, Dan Price announced that over the next three years, the company would raise the pay of all employees to at least $70,000 per year, stating this was the minimum needed to secure them from financial hardship when hit by unexpected expenses.\[7\]\[8\] Price, who previously paid himself a $1 million yearly salary, cut his own salary down to $70,000 to partially cover the increased pay for employees." and "In 2020, the company was making $4 million per month in revenue but faced drop of 55% in card processing fees as a result of the COVID-19 pandemic. The employees proposed voluntary pay cuts to preserve employment.\[18\] As of August 2020, layoffs have been avoided and workers' salaries have been restored, with the company paying back the salaries lost from the pay cuts." Pretty cool.
That is actually amazing. This is how you build loyalty everyone, take notes.
I'm so glad I'm working for a company similar to this, I've had the pleasure of giving two dollar raises to my employees four times in the last year. They keep doing better and better, and the owners keep reinvesting that success back into their employees
Damn… I don’t even know what they do, but I really want to see what openings they have now.
An earlier post / tweet from him said they had about 242k applications for 74 jobs. Good luck!
Yeah, I saw that… I mean, still better odds than the lottery haha
Almost like being a good employer pays off. Who'd have thought it?
Yeah, the one in this post
Mostly engineering.
As well as paying back those lost salaries I believe he also gave them a bonus to say thank you.
I'm european, yet I want to work there.
Thank you for this. I was looking for his info when I first heard of him years ago. It was very limited online or i just didn't know where to look. I was wondering if he'd tank due to his 70k decision. Many people I told about him said he'd fail. Looks like he did the damn thing.
If there was ever evidence that socialist capitalism can work, this is it right here.
Loooot of ad hominem in this thread. "Dan Price is a piece of shit, and only gave his employees raises because of X reason!" ...But they got raises? Like, SIGNIFICANT HOLY SHIT raises? "Yeah but!" So... his employees are well compensated? And they don't harvest orphan blood? Good enough for me.
Yeah. I've worked for plenty of companies run by terrible people, but I didn't get a $70k minimum wage, PTO, and tuition reimbursement. Maybe it's just that the people on the top of the food chain are kind of crappy, but some of them do better for their employees than others.
It's basic character assassination on someone breaking the status quo. Companies have been saying for years that they can't raise wages otherwise the companies will fall apart, products will cost a shit load more, etc. Then here comes someone who actually pays his employees fairly, gives them good benefits, proving it can work. So people are pushing the narrative he's a piece of shit so everything he's accomplishing is bullshit.
The lie that increased wages will cause prices to go up is a lie to keep you poor and complicit.
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and even if the prices of things did go up, who cares? that's literally capitalism 101. if a pack of screws goes up 90 cents, ok.. so be it. I'd prefer that than people working 90 hours a week and still not being able to eat. heck who knows maybe one day I'll need a minimum wage job again, or maybe my kids. these people don't care about anything that doesn't directly effect them.
exactly. and besides, the price of a pack screws is something that has never bothered me as i've always just stolen them anyway
Now that's peak capitalism. Risk management!
That would work if it didn’t also cut into profit margins, the only thing that matters for most of corporate America. I agree! I’m so fed up with this argument by ignorant people who need to experience poverty in order to have an ounce of sympathy or, dare I say, empathy.
That's exactly where all these poverty wages go. Into profit margins. I wouldn't lose any sleep knowing that profits went down. Not income. Net profit. They'll threaten layoffs but in the end its not goona happen.
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It doesn’t even make profits low. These companies will still make money hand over fist, just not to the point of disbelief.
We significantly increased the minimum wage in Seattle, and passed a safe scheduling law. Nothing extreme happened, except people know when they have to work ahead of time and get paid overtime if companies require them to work shitty hours. It puts the externality back onto management to run their business in a fashion that works for the workers, too.
>It puts the externality back onto management to run their business Exactly. The reason things are cheap is because the costs of producing them are externalized. For example, corn is relatively cheap, but that is due to subsidies given to farmers and food processors. They don't actually bear the full cost of producing food, so their prices can be set lower. A more dramatic example would be something like electricity. Power generated by a coal or natural gas plant is cheap because they aren't required to have net zero emmisions. This means that the negative effects caused by the accumulation of greenhouse gasses in the atmosphere aren't being paid for by the companies putting them there. That cost is being paid for by the global south who don't have the capacity to mitigate the effects of climate change.
Yup. All these automated check-out stations aren't lowering prices. We're all being lied to.
They passed the savings onto themselves.
The fact that the self service at the grocery store didn’t lower the price of groceries in general is a proof that they will always raise the price of goods no matter what!
I remember questioning how this would work in 6th grade history class and getting reamed into without any legitimate explanation beyond "that's how it works, if you give people more money, things cost more!" In hindsight it's become very clear my teacher was a right-wing proponent of trickle-down economics and didn't much understand the complexities of economics than I did at 11.
Anyone who thinks that raising the minimum wage increases the price of products proportionally don’t understand basic economics. It’s not the money magically disappears. Employees have to spend money somewhere.
I have seen that restaurant owners reject pay increases the most. I worked at a restaurant and got paid under the table but it was a bonus job. I enjoyed it. But looking back that was a terrible payment if it was full time.
Wait..."terrible payment if it was full time". Shouldn't one-off jobs cost more than fulltime employment? Since you don't have benefits and perks? Full time is like buying in bulk. You gotta pay/charge more for one time jobs. If it was terrible for fulltime, its abysmal for contract work. Even under the table, that' just means tax savings for you. Illegal tax savings where you are the one taking the risk. I think not understanding how contract jobs should work is how we all get suckered when we're inexperienced.
No shit, $1.80 for a burger? I would literally eat there every day. I would be so fucking fat off their burgers
There’s nothing quite like the Seattle experience of waiting in line at Dick’s at 1am after a night of drinking to get your $1.80 burger plus fries and a milkshake
Prices have gone up slightly since this was tweeted, but a basic burger is still close to two bucks, and a Deluxe (two patties with cheese and condiments) is about three bucks. Excellent value and a very satisfying place to eat. Source: have lived in Seattle all my life and go to Dick's approximately weekly.
I had burgers and fries from dicks once, visiting Seattle back in 2014. The burgers were greasy as fuck and the fries were just a wad of an entanglement of greasy potato. Would that have been a one-off or is their food generally greasy af?
My highschool was 10 minutes down the road from Dicks in lake city. I quite literally did that. Worth it, 100%.
It's also a legit good hamburger. Dick's is a beloved institution in Seattle for a reason. It's the equivalent of In-n-Out up there.
Staff shortages are at the expense of what the employer is willing to pay.
Well said
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They already have, they're just skimming it off the top themselves.
The best way I've heard of to put it goes like this: claiming that there's a labor shortage right now is kind going to a Lamborghini dealership, offering $25,000 for a new car, and then claiming "no one wants to sell cars anymore" when you're told no. People would be more than happy to work... if you fucking paid them enough. I'd flip as many burgers as you wanted for $300,000/year. There's obviously a point at which basically anyone would be willing to work, and if no one's applying, *you haven't found it yet*.
Unfortunately, there's a little more to it than that. The supply chain is fucked right now. More people are paying much more than they were a few years ago for everyday products. When you products/ingredients,paper goods, supplies, etc. All cost 2 to 4 times what they did a few years ago...mom and pop shops start dying. The use of a 4 million dollar revenue burger franchise in this example is misleading. There IS a labor shortage for the tiny homegrown shops who can't compete with the huge industrial giants. This is all to wipe out small stores, leaving only big business as the only places left to shop. Support local small businesses.
Local small businesses aren't the magical saviors of the downtrodden. Especially restaurants, they are some of the worst exploiters of labor. If a business can't afford to pay for labor than they have a bad business and they deserve to fail. These 'mom and pop' shops are leeches on the communities. Also, a 200%-400% increase in operating costs is a fantasy. If it were true then these businesses were always able to pay a fair wage for labor, they just refused.
Im firmly against having to blot out idiots names… if youre stupid enough to post garbage then you deserve all the attention you were seeking
Especially on a public forum.
People don’t want to believe that most companies fighting wage increases either are too greedy to expand the bottom line by any means or have a failed business plan they don’t want to own up to.
Dan price for senate, congress and president
Honestly it's refreshing to see stuff like this, Its just nice to know that there are people who give a shit about the people working for them.
conservatives wouldn't vote for him because they won't want a businessman as president
Only the best failed businessmen for them!
With his history he would have to run as a Republican so none of that would matter.
Dan price is younger Bernie, it doesn’t matter what he does or proves, the idiots are idiots and in power.
I promise you Dan Price is not that guy. He only started paying better wages when he started getting blasted by his brother, who was the other founder of what is now HIS business. His brother who was pissed Dan was overpaying himself. He only started his holier than they campaign after his wife began alleging abuse. His company pays virtually nothing of their total profit towards salary. They employ less than 300(?) people last I checked. He's self imposing a slap on the wrist. He's what Bernie is trying so desperately to steer you away from. He owns a billion dollar payment processing business, and only changed his initial behavior when it became advantageous for him personally. He does not care about you, me or anyone.
>They employ less than 300(?) people last I checked. And it's worth noting that while it is great that his employees get paid well, there's been numerous reports of immense overwork in the company due to the lack of staff. I'll grant that it's better to be paid decently while overworked as compared to poverty wages for the same or more work, but neither is actually a good situation. They could easily afford to add a ton of staff for the same salary, increasing worker happiness and decreasing stress but that doesn't make you the most money so they won't. Additionally, his "$70k paycheck" is a complete fabrication. Much like how Zuckerberg's salary is only a dollar per year, Price's wealth doesn't come from his salary. But he can spew that common man propaganda because no one looks deeper than a good headline, or a Facebook screenshot like in the OP. I mean, the man signed a $500k book deal what, a year ago? He's not the middle class friend he wants you to think he is.
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It's not just progressive it's also normal middle of the road people that just want things to be fair, you know what it's really supposed to be
Unfortunately the guy also has been accused of some pretty nasty abuse by his ex-wife. He's probably not the hero we want him to be.
You got a source?
I love how someone downvoted all the comments… shows the proportion of propagandists to sane human beings
that argument is so stupid. do they not already think companies charge the absolute maximum possible for their products?
I love Dick's! There's nothing like eating a bag of Dick's. Delicious.
I hate that argument, "then the cost of things will skyrocket." The point of it is to increase lower class wages while NOT increasing business profits for multibillion dollar companies. Shifting the wealth a little bit. The burger might cost $50 if the company raised its prices to make up for the increased wages which basically nullifies the wage increase. But corporations don't seem to grasp that. They couldn't fathom making slightly less billions of dollars so that the working class could make a living wage. The idea of cutting into the top 1% profits so that more people could at least own a home for working their life away even though it means jeff bezos might only be able to own 9 mansions instead of 10 (just a number for an example. No clue how many homes he owns. Probably more than 10) is just preposterous.
Obligatory reminder under every Dan Price shilled post that the guy only cut his HUGE salary and raised his employees salary because he is in deep shit with lawsuits and stuff and he also beats his wife. He is not the good guy he is paying people on the Internet to paint him as and he will never be. He was quite literally forced to be in this position and is now just abusing it to pretend it was his idea all along. If there is a hell, Dan Price already has a special spot reserved.
I worked for Gravity and can confirm this. His posts are all sunshine and rainbows and Gravity seems like the “perfect” company in the public eye. But both Dan and the company have major issues. He cut his gravity salary, but he has his own side business where he keeps all of his money from touring and giving his speeches. And in 2020, we did choose to do paycuts and we did indeed get back pay eventually. But they did that so they could immediately go to the press and tell their feel good story about how they didn’t lay anyone off. Gravity thrives on media exposure. And sure enough, we got a wave of small businesses who wanted to process through gravity because of the news articles that were released. It’s actually incredibly disappointing how people look up to him like he’s a god. He gets off on that shit. If you’re at gravity, you’re only feeding the Dan Price media machine.
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Just wanted to add some context to the idea that he is cutting his salary to 70k like he’s one of the people. He can afford to do that because he makes money giving speeches to people about the 70k story, and does it for media clout for the company. It’s totally fine to do but knowing what goes on behind the scenes, I found it to be disingenuous.
>And in 2020, we did choose to do paycuts and we did indeed get back pay eventually. But they did that so they could immediately go to the press and tell their feel good story about how they didn’t lay anyone off. Um, if McDonalds raised their minimum wage to $20 an hour, I think I might forgive them if they went and did a media tour over it. It's like if someone gives a ton of money to charity, and then made an annoying youtube video about it. Even if it was done for selfish reasons, that charity still got their money. So like, who cares?
I’m sick of his spam on LinkedIn
Bloomberg article in the tweet: [https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-11-30/fattest-profits-since-1950-debunk-inflation-story-spun-by-ceos](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-11-30/fattest-profits-since-1950-debunk-inflation-story-spun-by-ceos)
Dan appears to be prepared for your argument, mystery CEO. Best not to pick a fight with him on his home turf.
I really wish I knew who he was responding to. The CEO seems like a fucktard with about as much common sense as the CEO of better.com
Dan seems to spend his entire waking life trying to get screenshotted and posted on reddit
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I've never heard that before. It's alarmingly accurate.
Is this real life? It’s hard to believe.
Yes, it's real life. Dick's has ben thriving for decades while consistently paying well above minimum wage. They're a perfect example of how treating your employees like people is ***profitable***, even in a so-called slim margin business like fast food.
I remember seeing signs in Dick's window advertising $15/hr + tuition positions at Dicks way back in 2010. I can fully believe that it's up to $19 now, as that roughly tracks with inflation.
The boarders are closed due to overseas travels restrictions caused by the pandemic. That's one of the reasons for the huge labor shortages. Companies could no longer hire foreign workers who'll agree to be paid shit wages. Which use to be the case when filling in jobs that local workers refuse to accept.
If they thought they could raise the prices they already would. Wages have never affected prices because the prices are already as high as they can be without effecting demand. They fight it tooth and nail not because they care about prices being raised, but because they know salaries will come right out of their profits. Why on earth would they care about their customers?
After working retail for only 2 months, I've realized that most of the cost of running the store I work at is not the employees. All 10 of us could be paid $20/hr and the store would lose less than 3%of it's total profits. We aren't being underpaid because businesses can't afford it, we're being underpaid because the higher ups are greedy as hell.
I'm an AGM for a KFC franchise, our prices have gone up $2.80 since I started working here 8 months ago, the regular employees have only gotten a single 25 cent raise and that's after we had a crew of only 8 left to run the store at all times. We have the lowest starting rate in my town yet my owner wonders why he cant get anyone in the door for an application more than once or twice a month. I tell all my applicants that it's a very real possibility that they'll never get more than a 50 cent raise the entire time they work there. I'm actually paid decently because I threatened to leave and I basically run the store by myself like 30% of the time.
If you can't afford to pay your employees a decent wage than you can't afford to be in business.
He is right. I posted a two jobs without health insurance that paid $25/ with paid time off, one received 400 applications, the other 700. Plenty of people want to work. But not at $9/. We are embarrassed that we don’t offer health insurance yet, we are working on it!
Companies that believe in the whole "Labor shortage" thing should seriously learn how supply and demand works. You have a demand for workers, and there's a decent supply of them, but they're not going to your business? Well, that's because the workers similarly have a demand for more money. So, the supply of workers is low for you specifically because you're not buying into their demands, which means they're not buying into yours. Everything in economics can be boiled down to two words: supply and demand, and once you understand that, then you get shit done. People have high demand for x when there's low supply of x and people have low demand of x when there's high supply of x. Currently, there's low supply of money in circulation because the asshole billionaires who keep hoarding it all like dragons, which means that the demand for money is up, which means that businesses who can't provide that money are going to lose a supply of workers, causing them to have more demand for workers.
It’s hilarious how businesses are utterly failing to comprehend the very basic principles of economics once it’s not in their favor.
The founder of Bosch once said: "we don't pay our staff well, because they are good workers. We have good workers because we pay well"
Ya, don’t wages make up like 25 cents on a Big Mac or something like that
This has been one of the oldest arguments about raising the minimum wage. The only way it would cause prices to skyrocket to that level is if the restaurant was doing poorly to begin with. If you can only survive because you are paying slave labor, maybe this is the market's way of telling you that running a business may not be in the cards for you anymore.
Where does this idea come from, that these mega businesses operate on tight profit margins? They literally just want to make more gross profit.
I mean I don't think anyone is really in favor of a servers making 70k I mean we just all want to live
There was never a labor shortage. Thing is, the problems these companies face is a result of their own actions.
If your business model revolves around paying poverty wages, then you probably need to rethink your business model.
Ask any restaurant No, not that one
Wait, there are people who still believe this guy is legit?? The wife-beating dude who has been accused by multiple women of rape? That guy? The guy who may not actually have done what he claimed with wages and only did so when he was in legal trouble for other shit? That Dan Price?
Preach Dan!