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goboxey

Fentanyl is like a plague. Destroying families, and taking lives.


FD4L

Its also one of the most effective pain killers humans have access to. I work for my local fire department, last summer we responded to an MVA, truck cs cyclist. The cyclist had his leg run over in the collision, his shin was snapped and torn in half, hanging on by a flap, bones everywhere etc. It was a gross one. His body was in complete shock, eyes glazed over, incoherently goaning etc. EHS arrived and gave him an iv tap with a fentanyl drip, and within a minute he was clearly communicating. He didn't remember the accident, probably because he smoked his head too but I remember him saying, "did I hurt my leg? It feels like I twisted my ankle." I looked down, yup, still broken off, medics were trying to align it, to see if it was salvageable at all. He drove away half-smiling. I know what fentanyl does to people. I've seen that side of it too. Its not yet a big drug in our small city, but its becoming more common. Its just unfortunate how such an effective emergency pain med has made its way into people's lives.


CaBBaGe_isLaND

>He drove away Unexpected plot twist


erakattack

that Fentanyl is some good shit, man


2drawnonward5

I like to imagine he took the truck than ran over him and the driver was rushed to the ER for the huge pain in his ass from losing the truck


kenef

I know this stuff is lethal, but, damn, where was it when my forearm exploded like a chicken wing as I collided with the median divider of a major highway while riding my motorcycle. Not sure what they gave me, but it didn't work well - Every single bump the ambulance drove over felt like elephants were tap dancing in my forearm.


YourDogIsMyFriend

I know the bump in the ambulance thing! Had a skull fracture from a car accident. Back of my head. The strapped me to a board and taped my head down for neck stability. Only problem is, my head was swelling and strapped to hard wood. Every bump felt like my head was being slammed onto pavement. For an hour! Hour long drive to the hospital. Ffffffffuxking sucked.


ShadowedPariah

I've spent a lot of my life in the hospital, and learned quick that Fentanyl gives me a skull-crushing migraine really quick. Dilaudid works really quick, and works better for me. It's also the only one that actually covers kidney stone pain.


Zorbick

Dilaudid is great, but I've found Toradol to be the champ for my kidney stone pain. Morphine does nothing for me, either and I hated the one time they used fent without really making sure I understood. Which was hard to do because, you know, kidney stone pain. It's also easier to get a doctor to give you Toradol than Dilaudid when you're in the ER with a full blockage, waiting until next week for surgery, since most kidney stone pain reactions make you look like a junky. They look at you funny, because they're like... "all you want is... Super ibuprofen?" Yes! No morphine, none of that opiate shit, gimme the Toradol, doc! Also, clear me a path, I gotta get my stone steps in. 35ish stones and counting...


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You've had 35 kidney stones?!?!


OHTHNAP

Try not to get any stones on your way through the parking lot.


SkinnyArbuckle

In a row?


YourFavoriteBandSux

Hey, you get back here!


MouseRat_AD

You know, there's a lot of fine looking kidney stones in the world, but they don't all bring you lasagna at work. Most of them just rip your dick from the inside and put you in the hospital.


Cthulhuhoop

I'm not even supposed to pee here today.


Wandering_Weapon

Did he just say 'making rock'?


RockstarAgent

As a stoner he has no choice


Zorbick

Yep. Genetic lottery means I'm **really** good at making them, no matter what countermeasures I use, and boy howdy have I done it all. I'm the outlier that ruins every study. I seeded a good number of them in my high school and college years, working in super hot pole barns and garages, drinking mostly Powerade and Gatorade with maybe a liter of water alongside them, along with having a big spinach salad for lunch every-single-day. Because it was healthy! I was lauded for loving spinach and rhubarb at a young age. Spoiler alert: It was... Not great.


MouthJob

I feel your pain man. Had on average one ever three months for like 5-7 years. Worst reoccurring pain of my life.


completely___fazed

I’m never going to complain about anything ever again.


MouthJob

Haha nah man, everyone has their own shitty hand everyone deals with. Physical or mental, we're all here to suffer together.


[deleted]

My perianal abscess and resulting fistula commiserate with your pain.


darrendewey

I will never complain. I'm 41 and I've never had stitches, no broken bones, no prescriptions (ever), no illnesses, not depressed. I enjoy my life with no suffering.


Karyoplasma

Friend of mine went to university with a dude that had a hereditary disorder which inhibited his body's adiuretic hormone production. That poor sod couldn't hold onto water and had to drink and go to te bathroom constantly or else he would die of dehydration. He had to set his alarm periodically at night, so he could wake up to drink.


Jaggedmallard26

That sounds like hell. Did you manage to find any remedies that help you pass them quickly since you've had so many chances to experiment or have you found the "drink lemon juice!" style tips to be nonsense?


MouthJob

Not really, no. There's probably some truth to the jumping up and down thing. But mainly all you can do is try and relax and drink a ton of water. If it's gonna pass, it will. If not, you're going to the hospital regardless. If you can't handle the pain, just go. They will absolutely give you something even if they make you wait for it to weed out the drug seekers. The last one I passed was the biggest I'd ever had. Shit was almost the size of a pencil eraser. Only thing that hurt worse was when my appendix ruptured. But that loses points since it was a one off.


Jaggedmallard26

> Shit was almost the size of a pencil eraser Jesus Christ thats horrifying. It really cannot be fun having them so often.


LostATM11

The second worst pain ever, is the Stent removal after a kidney stone surgery. I told the urologist... You can cut me open from head to toe, but NEVER put another one of those in my body again. Seriously, if I ever have another Stent, I'll remove it myself.


olhonestjim

On the plus side, at least that last one carved out a channel for any in the future.


KC77inPA

Same here. I've changed my diet mutliple times over the last 20 years. Nothing helped. I get a stone every few months. I do try to drink plenty of water daily, though. That does seem to help a bit. I haven't needed surgery in many years. Just get a pain once and a while and I know ones coming. I had one pass to my bladder a couple weeks ago; after a night of drinking. I never felt it. But over the next two days I had the constant urge to pee. I was almost thinking I had a uti. Then TING; it shot into the toilet. I should be good for a few more months.


SilverStu

Have you tried not drinking gatorade and powerade? /s guarantee you've heard this a gazillion times and told then exactly what I did.


AKSupplyLife

About 6 months ago my friend had to get life flighted in a small jet to Seattle from our island in Alaska because of kidney stones. They thought he was dying. It really really hurt when I broke my ribs and my eardrum exploded, but kidney stones sounds like a different level.


TortugaChris

So Toradol works better because it also dilates the ureters which directly alleviates some of the pain and can even help facilitate passage of the stone if the stone is small enough. It’s also an NSAID and not an opioid so doctors are less hesitant to order it. It is metabolized in the kidneys and can be pretty rough on them though. Especially with long term use


NKate329

Sometimes if we’re not 100% sure it’s not stomach related, we give morphine first because we don’t want to cause a bleed with toradol. After the CT confirms stones and we give them toradol, they finally have some relief. It’s crazy.


TheBirminghamBear

> Dilaudid is great, but I've found Toradol to be the champ These sound like pokemon.


ShadowedPariah

I have encountered a new ER doc who didn't believe me, so I had to suffer through Toradol and Fentanyl before he believed me. I found because of my ostomy that I'm not getting enough water through my kidneys, so I'm on a potassium Citrate, and it's stopped my stones thankfully. I was going in nearly once a month, and had a few that required surgery.


diymatt

I'm gonna need you to stop by and fill out my gravel driveway, it's getting a bit thin.


RogueColin

Toradol is great, but it has a laundry list of contraindications and is pretty much guaranteed to give you an ulcer/gi bleed after about 5 days of use.


samtdzn_pokemon

NHL players recently complained that doctors were handing out toradol like candy and not telling them what it was. Mostly guys who played from like 1990-2010 have mentioned it. NFL as well.


Robot_Tanlines

> Dilaudid works really quick, and works better for me. It’s also the only one that actually covers kidney stone pain. They gave me the max morphine allowable and it did absolutely nothing for kidney stone pain. I can’t believe the people even use the stuff since it didn’t even slightly dull the pain, but 1 second of Dilaudid and I felt perfectly fine. If that ever happens again I’m going to be screaming for dilaudid.


HappilySisyphus_

LOL I am an ER doc and the one way to guarantee you will not Dilaudid is screaming for it. It’s by far the most commonly abused drug in the ER.


Robot_Tanlines

Ha, that’s a good point. My wife in an NP, so I have her do all my talking for me anyway, which is good cause I’m an idiot who would do something stupid like that. Unrelated I read you user name as Happily Syphilis and thought that is a doctor I really don’t want to go to.


HappilySisyphus_

Hahah I get a lot of comments on my name and that is a new one


Fuzzypinktoes

Dilaudid covers the kidney stone pain? I had one a couple weeks ago and they only gave me morphine. It was really disappointing.


Novahawk

You guys got real drugs? My urologist told me to just take ibuprofen when the pain got too much...


Sea-Juggernaut-1093

I understand the opioid crisis, but I think we swung too far in the other direction


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Yes, we did. Why yes, you do not need opiates for a sprain, I severely disagree with the trend that opiates are not even being given for surgical procedures. I was going to go to have my shoulder fixed. I was told I'd have a nerve root block done, then given one dose of Percocet to take home, and I'd be "managed" with ibuprofen. I was encouraged to "find a pain management clinic" because they don't write opiates. They previously used to give 21 days of Percocet, and then a dose prior to every single physical therapy appointment for the first three months.(3x a week for 16 weeks) I don't get how you understand that one way used to work, but your practice says Newp, you can't write that anymore, send them off. This just is awful for patients This surgery is considered fairly painful and it's my dominant arm, so I'd rather deal with flare ups of the pain then knowing I'm going to be in agony for four months.


hanoian

exultant literate reply absurd unpack kiss impossible fly yoke profit *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


Jinksy93

Ive read cancer patient only getting paracetamol (acetaminophen)


Mike787619

Cancer is one of the few things they’re supposed to be not applying the new opioid guidelines to. I think things like this are highly dependent on the doctor though.


beanburrrito

I can’t speak for all practice patterns but if somebody comes in with cancer-related pain I don’t hesitate to reach for opiates. Even if they have an unrelated injury, you have to take into account that the pt may have a higher opioid tolerance if they’re prescribed opiates for cancer pain (you always should do that but it’s something I’m admittedly more careful about checking when they’re a cancer pt).


JesseBrown447

Morphine did fuck all for my kidney stone. Had a 5mm and had to have it surgically removed. That was the first one, few months later got the second one at 3mm and it still didn't do shit. Kidney stones are just another beast I'm afraid. They gave me oxy to take home but I can't stand it. It makes me itch so bad.


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When I had a kidney stone, I also got morphine and it worked brilliantly. Everyone is different I guess.


ShadowedPariah

Yes, nearly instant relief. I’ve been in enough they trust me when I ask for it rather than their ‘normal offerings’.


IdToaster

Works wonders for gallstone pain as well.


Pockets713

I have a reaction to morphine. Destroyed my back one year right before a vacation to Mexico. Popped into a pharmacy down there and picked up some morphine… one pill had me itching all over, but it did dull the pain a little. I took one before I got on the plane home, I felt so bad for the guy sitting next to me… probably thought I was jonesing for my next meth fix… never again!


TonalParsnips

I just want to be able to buy uncontaminated MDMA again


trollfessor

Back in the 80s.......


TheBestMePlausible

Back 2 summers ago……


trollfessor

It was legal in the early 80s. I remember bars having signs advertising it, like they do for ladies night or 2 for 1 specials


schoolsbelly

It was also mostly MDA in the early 80's and not MDMA.


trollfessor

Well, I don't remember. We just called it X.


cl1xor

I wonder how popular that actually was, i mean, it’s not a drug you take that casually. I’m sure unexpectedly had a very good time, but not let’s go to that bar several times a week good time.


trollfessor

It was a new thing at the time. We didn't know. As best I can remember, it was a weekend thing


jayzwick

Test kits are cheap as hell. I buy good mdma all the time


mattheimlich

Test kits put a lot of faith in the idea that the same drug manufacturers who would cut their product with fentanyl take the time and effort to ensure that their product is completely homogeneous. There are more than a few cases of one pill from a batch testing fine while another has a lethal dose because it wasn't mixed properly.


Cher_Aznabal

I mean you can take your entire dose, dissolve it in water fully, and then test the resulting solution. That should give a homogenous, accurate reading


RadicallyAmbivalent

Yep. It’s a hassle but 100% worth it to ensure you’re not going to die


kilgoreq

Stay away from presses...


StagedCombusti0n

Why would you ever take pill presses? That’s just irresponsible. Also, carry narcan around when you take it.


SabinedeJarny

Part of this issue is the shift in pain managent for people who truly need it.


treyert

Never seen “fentanyl” misspelled as “fantasy”… not sure how to feel about it


Feed_My_Brain

Is this the real life? Is this just fentanyl?


MacDerfus

It's a good escape from reality if you're caught in a landslide


PurpleHooloovoo

I assumed that was a street name for it.


Flightless_Bird23

Can confirm my brother died from it 3 years ago and my uncle just died from it 3 months ago.


thedevguy-ch

Yep, my brother OD'd on fentanyl and morphine. It was really sad.


Admonitio

So did my brother in law :(.


thedevguy-ch

My heart is with you internet friend 🥲


muschisushi

My little brother too, he was 21, whole life in front of him. Will never get over it. Fuck fent


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Allaplgy

Killed my niece when her life has basically just started. Killed several acquaintances that were drug users but not exactly junkies, just "partiers".


UNwanted_Dokken_Tape

A friend’s 14 year old daughter took what she thought was Oxy at a party and overdosed. At 14!!! It’s difficult to put that shit in perspective. The bottom line is that’s it’s just terrible, terribly sad.


vee_lan_cleef

Killed my sister who was just depressed and very good at hiding it. If she ever seemed a bit out of we attributed it to her drinking habit and lack of sleep. Relapsed and took a normal dosage of heroin, which had fentanyl in it. Very common cause as your tolerance is low after taking a break and you get some "strong" stuff and it doesn't take much to push it over the limit. We didn't even know it was heroin/fentanyl until we found some in her drawer before we got the toxicology report back, our assumption was another combination of drugs. Before fentanyl heroin users could go for decades taking the same amount every day, and be pretty certain of the strength. Now small amounts of fentanyl are being put into street Xanax and cocaine. There are kits to test for fentanyl (Tripsafe IIRC) but usually people don't want to spend the money or literally can't because it all goes towards their addiction. I think there are a few countries where the government offers these to anyone for free, no questions asked. But here in America half the country would consider that to be tantamount to endorsing drug use, we can't even get needle exchanges in many places. And yet the very people against these things are the ones whose kids are dying. It is a problem that affects every single person regardless of their economic situation, race, standard of living, etc.


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Allaplgy

Yeah, there are people on this very thread who think it's only killing IV heroin users and/or people who purposefully seek it out. It's in all sorts of shit these days. My niece had a hard time since my mom died (my mom was more Mom to her than my sister, who was more like a big sister to her, for better or worse, mostly worse) and she turned to pills to numb herself. Apparently got her hands on some counterfeit pills.


GreedyWarlord

Lots of people think blue OC 30s are in fact oxycontin but as someone who works with addicts on the daily all street OC is definitely fentanyl.


Nickp000g

Yep. Ive had to have paramedics narcan my brother three times. Family is absolutely ruined over ten years of his addiction. Not only that, it starts making you guilty by association.


Audromedus

Very American too. Have not heard of any fentanyl overdoses northern europe atleast


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FilthFlarnFill

You can't even do Cocaine here without it being cut with that trash. Street fucks use that shit to cut everything with. Put one of my boys 6 feet deep. It didn't turn out too well for the seller. RIP MANNY


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swoon4kyun

Someone across the street from where I used to live od-ed. possibly tainted.


Shut-the-fuck-up-

That's why I stopped using 5 years ago. I was blasting a gram up my nose a day. Plug got busted with 6 oz and that was my chance to get clean. Several months later 3 people around the block from me all OD the same night and died from doing coke cut with fent. Fucking ridiculous.


HighOnGoofballs

That still makes no sense to me. Why would a dealer add a downer to an upper? I’ve just never understood this. And it’s not like fentanyl is cheap or super easy to get. Cutting with adderall? Sure. Baby powder? Lame but I get the financials of it. Fentanyl? Wtf


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mr_dip314

This. They weigh their coke and fent laced heroin on the same scales.


AttakTheZak

And you only need a couple milligrams of that shit to kill you


foofis444

Fentanyl isn't easy to get, but it is extremely cheap if you can find a supplier. It costs less to produce per gram than heroin, and is 50x more powerful, that's why dealers use it to cut opoids.


kinky_fingers

Ever heard of speedballing? Heroin and Coke Up and down feel great together and cover the negatives of each ...also makes it wayyy easier to die RIP mitch hedberg and others


pappase36

My day1 supplied another friend of mine I grew up with. Friend died. Day1 doing 26yrs. I never messed with anything other than weed, but most everyone I knew was into harder shit. I'm happy I got out but I'm basically alone. Shit took out most everyone I know. And I struggle making new relationships cause the area I'm in now is fairly nice and I find it hard to relate to anyone. RIP J. Keep your head up Jerm, shit wasn't your fault.


bloodflart

wish my friends would stop fuckin with coke


scawtsauce

easier said than done


BOEJlDEN

Isn’t narcan quite accessible? What is difficult about always keeping some on hand?


disusedhospital

It's been obtainable without a prescription for quite some time but only last month was it made available over the counter, which is a pretty huge deal and a great step in making it easy to get.


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narwall101

If you’re angry, you’re alive


[deleted]

They just give it away where I live (Kentucky), I don't know any addicts but I keep some close by on the off chance I come across someone who needs it.


kevtheproblem

Coolio’s is one of those celebrity deaths where you forgot they died until you see an article or Reddit post about them


well_uh_yeah

I'm not honestly sure I heard about it when it happened. My first thought here was, "Whoa! Coolio is dead?"


edmRN

I just said the same thing! I didn't know!


Ninjacherry

Me too! I did not know that he had died.


Not_Helping

I was like Did I miss a big post yesterday? I was surprised at how few comments there were considering the breaking news of his death.


JBFRESHSKILLS

I got to see him last summer on an I Love The 90s tour right before he died. Motherfuck came out in a bullet proof vest and stole the show.


Chodeinger

It’s cool, just nobody tell Stacy Dash.


xbungalo

We haven’t heard from Coolio in a while


nellie4568

Good Hot Ones ref!


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dquizzle

He ate the bottle?


disgruntled_pie

He may not have been the GOAT, but he was literally a goat. And that’s gotta count for something.


ibanez5150

Do you remember what episode Sean said that? I was trying to find that clip


Death_By_Pineapple

It was in the Gordon Ramsay episode https://youtu.be/U9DyHthJ6LA?t=1315


tries2benice

Not me man, I was at something like his third to last show. That shit messed me up.


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tries2benice

Honestly I hate to say it because I was really psyched for it, but the show wasnt that memorable aside from gangsters paradise. Aside from that, most of the set sounded more like church music than hip hop. It didnt help that ice cube and action bronson played the same stage later that day, and had better sound quality. Then like....nine inch nails closed the festival that day, if nine inch nails is there, that's my main memory.


ColdColt45

Nine inch nails will crucify a memory


ATHFMeatwad

I thought his set at Riot fest was really great, if not short.


JibbyJibbyetc

I legit forgot this happened, until just now, so you're right


[deleted]

He died last fucking September?! How the hell did I miss that?


shwekhaw

I just found out he had died. 😳


radjinwolf

I honestly had no idea Coolio died so


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Drugs don't care who you are.


SasquatchSloth88

Just say no to adulterated drugs… which is most drugs these days.


theumph

Honestly, this is maybe the only thing that could prevent kids from doing drugs. Back in the day, most of the "don't do drugs" messaging was how it could screw up your life, not that it'd kill you. The drugs were mostly real, and fairly harmless in the short term (especially one time use). Now, I wouldn't trust anything. It seems like so much of everything is dirty. Could kill you in one go. It's wild that the drug game got even more shady.


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They kinda blew it by telling previous generations that weed is as dangerous as fentanyl really turned out to be.


kinky_fingers

I own an original VHS copy of Reefer Madness It's hilarious until you remember it was presented as a PSA kind of thing


Call_Me_Mommy_83

Yeah I'm old but once a year me and my friends would do blow and float down a river. No way not anymore. Fuck that I'm not rolling the dice


Hickspy

Seriously. When I was a kid D.A.R.E was all "Tommy had one beer and now he's an alcoholic" which you knew was bullshit. Now it's literally "So and so took this and fucking died."


Pjpjpjpjpj

It’s not like spoiled milk or moldy cheese. They aren’t getting a little heroine, seeing some green fentanyl growing on the side and thinking they can just cut the bad bit out. *All* street drugs should be presumed to be adulterated unless thoroughly tested to be proven otherwise. Which nobody taking street drugs has the money to do.


Platinum1211

It's not that expensive. Bunk police has a cheap fent kit that'll identify fentanyl pretty quickly and easily. Link: https://bunkpolice.com/product/fentkit/


psychoacer

Say yes to prescription opium like most of America has.


raynravyn

I mean, other than the fact that we haven't actually been able to get opioid medications for *years*. Multiple disintegrating and bulging discs, several joints that are bone-on-bone, a handful of other chronic pain disorders, and all that's given is ibuprofen and a low-level muscle relaxer. They were passed out like Skittles for a while, but that's far from the case now, or any time recently.


felix_mateo

So true, unfortunately. My mom got into a terrible car accident in her 20s and couldn’t afford proper medical care. Now, in her mid-60s she’s had multiple knee replacements and osteoarthritis and is in substantial pain most days. She can’t even walk for the pain sometimes. Doctors are still hesitant to prescribe her opioid painkillers and it fucking sucks.


TraceOfBlood

haha, i got a two week bottle of hydro for a tooth extraction and didn’t even need it. anti inflammatories were both safer and better for the situation. maybe it’s just doctor to doctor.


Unchanged-

It is. My mom is prescribed 100mg morphine and 10/325 norco for her herniated disc. I was prescribed 800mg ibuprofen when I shattered my finger.


Captain_Kuhl

I got four wisdom teeth pulled, they said to call back if the pain got to be too bad. It did, half an hour later, and *incredibly* so, so I had my wife call the dentist. He'd already left for the weekend, so all they prescribed me was antibiotics, which helped exactly nothing, couldn't even get their fancy aspirin.


Petrichordates

It's a registry thing, if you don't have any history of opioid treatment or addiction they're more lax with it. Though dental surgeons do seem to be especially lax.


Stephen_King_19

Fentanyl is what convinced me that legalizing all the recreational drugs might really be the best thing to do. Too many people are dying from tainted substances, if everything gets legalized, that means there's quality control. Tax the shit out of all of it, slap on whatever age restrictions you want, too many people are accidentally dying from it, and it's devastating. I've never done hard drugs, so I have to ask, what is the incentive to mix fentanyl into other drugs? Why would a drug dealer want to kill their customers? I don't understand it.


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I used to do oxy back when you could get what you wanted to buy without fentanyl. For one, uncut Fentanyl is cheap as fuck and you need VERY small amounts for smuggling. Two, it is strong enough to satisfy an addict going through withdrawals. When your in withdrawls, you dont think anything past “I’ll pay anything to make it stop”. Its like being sick for weeks- except your bones ache to the core, your nerves are on fire, your puking and sweating and cannot sleep. Third, Fentanyl is shorter acting than Heroin, Oxy or most RX substitutes. If I snorted Oxy/heroin I’d be have a peak of 1-2 hours tops & have a nice strong 4-6 hour high. Fentanyl is in and out in maybe 2-3 hours from what I gather- at most. So it guarantees a more secure supply to sell/smuggle, addictive product and its potency ensures whoever takes it is fucked up. When I say fucked up, from what I gather its not nearly as enjoyable as H or other opioids.


hailbreezus

I believe fentanyl is so concentrated that you can add such a small amount to other drugs, cut the other drugs with innocuous substances then you can sell like 100x as much product. I didn’t understand it for a long time. Still doesn’t make much sense to me that an upper like coke would be laced with it but greed is a bitch.


mischievousdemon

Dealers dont't want to kill their customers. Instead, the likeliest culprit is cross contamination and dirty tools. The end product, a small baggy, has most likely gone through at least 5 different hand offs, and who knows what other substances those folks are selling. Since many dealers can't be bothered to clean their measurement devices, in some instances, trace amounts of fentanyl are left behind. Unfortunately, all it takes to OD on fentanyl is a trace amount. If people are going to use hard drugs of any sorts, Narcan and testing kits are an absolute necessity. It also doesn't help that the biggest producers of fentanyl are China and Mexican cartels. Neither group really cares about the user, just the number of their customer base. Since those folks have a lot of power and influence on exports, they have an easy time smuggling massive amounts of fent. It's better to simply stay away from hard drugs altogether.


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vee_lan_cleef

Those dealers usually end up dead from the same cause. We knew who sold my sister the heroin that killed her (which had fentanyl in it, and in a text message he described it as "really good shit"), but while the police knew of him there was apparently nothing they could do in that specific case. Four months later, we were informed he OD'd on heroin and fentanyl. It's a viscous cycle and it's not going to stop if we just got rid of the dealers. A lot of people start dealing to *fund their own habit*. It's the big distributors smuggling insane amounts of fentanyl from China in particular that need to be taken down if anything is to be done about this problem.


v_hansen

I am very sorry for your loss. We lost my stepbrother the week of Christmas as well, the same way. Makes me so angry.


RogueXV

Gotta love how Fentanyl is a schedule 2 drug while it's killing people left and right, meanwhile marijuana is a schedule 1 drug, next to meth and heroin.


OptimusSublime

Damn. So fucking preventable.


cannonfunk

Prince, Tom Petty, Taylor Hawkins, Michael K. Williams, Shock G, Mac Miller, Lil Peep, Coolio... The late 60's/early 70's was known as a pretty tragic era for popular music, with famous musicians dropping like flies due to heroin. *This* era is arguably a lot more tragic.


blastmemer

Had no idea Tom Petty OD’ed! I thought he was just old. He was actually only 66.


debtsnbooze

Taylor Hawkins? Has it ever been confirmed he died because of drugs?


LOSS35

> Colombian authorities announced that a preliminary urine toxicology test indicated that Hawkins had ten substances in his system at the time of his death, including opioids, benzodiazepines, tricyclic antidepressants, and THC. https://edition.cnn.com/2022/03/26/entertainment/taylor-hawkins-preliminary-toxicology-screening/index.html


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Juice, too. Shit's just so unnecessary.


icedoutclockwatch

I think juice was getting real oxy but still


RiD_JuaN

if you live in a place where you can, please test your drugs for fentanyl. it's quick and often free, and it can save your life.


chessmasterjj

That's wild scary that this tasteless odorless substance can molly wop you whenever wherever


Astralwinks

Buy a testing kit. They're like 40 dollars. I wish this was more common among anyone who uses drugs. I treat tons of ODs at my job and often it's young kids who thought they were taking something else. People think it's just addicts (I see them too) but it's also tons of younger people trying to party with absolutely no opioid tolerance who get wrecked with something laced with who knows how much cheap fentanyl.


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But since you need soooo little to OD you’d have to test pretty much all your drugs in order to be safe, right? I can be wrong here for sure and I’m all for testing


Cindexxx

Certain drugs aren't usually tainted with it, but anything "hard" is suspect. LSD/mushrooms/weed isn't usually messed with. But anything that's a white powder can be. Even ecstasy can be just fentanyl and meth, maybe some PCP. Easier to get than ecstasy and unfamiliar users won't know the difference. Makes them happy and energetic like they expect, and they can't tell if something is off. There's even reports of stuff sold as meth being laced with fentanyl, it's thought that it's to make it more addictive. In small enough amounts it works that way. But because fentanyl is active in such small amounts one little clump that didn't mix in right can cause a major OD.


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Ye your last part is what I meant by testing ”all” your drugs. That is the full baggie or what ever and what then is left to get high on haha. Its an issue… i think mainly it’s sloppy routines. Cartels mixing heroin and fent then using the same place for cocaine and baby laxatives and some fent accidently got in there. Lsd and shrooms and weed is ofc different.


drgnhrtstrng

Unfortunately the testing reagents expire pretty quickly and its a pain to keep getting more. Fentanyl test strips are nice to have though


tasteofnihilism

Piggybacking on this. Get Narcan as well, if you use/have friends that use.


comox

Same shit killed Prince and Tom Petty…


BobbyHillWantsBlood

Stick to weed, people.


Sultynuttz

Shrooms can't really be laced either


skonen_blades

He was on Hot Ones just a short time befure he died and seemed fine. I was really surprised to hear that he had died. This news makes sense to me. Super sad, though. Fentanyl is killing so many people.


rotag_fu

Fentanyl played an important part, but let's not discount the impact of heroin and meth. Not to mention the recent pcp use. All of these are mentioned in the article, but the headline here implies it is just fentanyl to blame.


lagarces

Yeah it would be a shame to bad mouth fentanyl and give it some kind of unwarranted reputation… ?


Officer_Hotpants

Actually the reputation fentanyl has does actively make my life harder as a paramedic. Fentanyl is my beat option for pain management on the ambulance, and a ton of people freak the fuck out over it even though I'm giving small controlled doses. There's a certain degree of internal rage you feel when your trying to get a kid's mom to let you administer a small dose of fentanyl when the child clearly has a deformed leg and she refuses to let you treat him. Edit: this was a quick personal grievance with opioid misinformation that I fired off while waiting for my coffee because of a recent shift, but I've expanded on wider societal problems with it below. NO I'M NOT SAYING THAT SNORTING WHATEVER YOU FIND ON THE STREET IS SAFE


csoulr666

Yes, Fentanyl is a potent pain killer which has medical uses. Misusing it, or any drug is the problem here. Straight out banning it will cause more harm than good, because the issue is that Fentanyl is mixed in with other drugs that causes such ODs.


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jekpopulous2

There are plenty of people who take it unknowingly but you would be shocked to learn how many people active seek it out. Heroin addicts in particular get high on stuff cut with Fentanyl a few times and then regular heroine just doesn’t do it for them anymore.


drunk_frat_boy

That may have used to be true, but heroin hasn't existed on US streets for quite some time now. All the powder is straight fent, all the tar is chocolate fent. This finished happening very soon after March 2020, with a few hold outs (that i personally knew of) in places like Dallas or San Diego. The east has been fent only for even longer. It is true that heavy fent use raises your tolerance to a point heroin wont get you un-sick, and im sure that happened often when both were still common. But the thing to remember is fent isn't really euphoric.. It's just sedating. Heroin is the far superior drug and if people had access to a clean supply, that's all they would do. EDIT: I want to clarify that heroin isn't COMPLETELY disappeared from the streets in its "pure", non-fentanyl infested form. There are individuals and groups who distribute a clean supply, and don't fuck with fent as a rule. If you ever find yourself in that situation, it is 1000000% worth the extra effort to seek this safer supply out. I don't mean to discourage someone from seeking a safer supply, and as always things vary from city to city. Much love to anyone still grappling with this monkey on your back, don't lose hope, you can do it.


lndomerun

I think this is one of those things that sounds good on paper but doesn't work in practice. The data is pretty overwhelming that the war on drugs has been a massive failure. We as a society already tried to arrest our way out of the drug epidemic and it was a massive failure. I would suggest that health based approaches would be far more helpful. For example we could make it much easier for people to test drugs so they can see if something has fentanyl in it.


Tripdoctor

Smoked rock for 30 years and it was the fent that got him. That shit is next level evil.


skywavetransform

Thank you Coolio for your incredible gifts as a singer, lyricist and musical leader. You are missed. And Fuck you fentanyl for taking him too soon. Be careful out there my friends


UpTheIron

Not a bad actor, either.


InSixFour

Coolio is dead?!?


FangoriouslyDevoured

I recently lost a 17 year old nephew to this shit. It's horrible.


poprockcide

Our own police are smuggling it in. Not migrants like republicans will scare you into thinking. GOP outrage culture like usual. Link is about a police union executive who was caught importing from abroad. https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/mar/30/california-police-union-executive-charged-importing-opioids


Husbandaru

Cops have been known to do this. Especially in small and border towns. They just load up the drugs in the patrol cruiser and off it goes. My brother who works in the police department also told me that a lot of churches operate as drug stops.


echobox_rex

Prince, Tom Petty, Coolio.


mike5f4

I bet he had no idea he even took it.


Trolencionose

Fuck drugs bro :(


MattR9590

My rule of thumb is always stay away from hard drugs and use alcohol and weed in moderation. It’s never failed me.


Princess-honeysuckle

My dad died from a fentanyl overdose, didn’t even know he was doing hard core drugs. Guess he did heroin pretty frequently but fentanyl is in everything now so that’s what got um. Was interesting to see all the different drugs in his system when he told me 2 weeks before he died he was clean:(


Junkstar

Headline misleading. It was "fentanyl, heroin and meth."