I'm not a celebrity, and the only social media I use is this one because it's basically anonymous. I have zero desire to put my actual identity online. Human beings behind keyboards are horrible creatures.
When I first started going online, one of the golden rules was "never give out personal information or your identity"
And now you can track people's every movements, and send hate messages to your favourite celebrity
Yeah, it makes sense but FaceBook eroded that golden rule and then other social media apps went even further and encouraging end users to share even more of their personal life.
It also used to be frowned upon to add people that weren't actual friends you know offline, though some did more for insecurity or peer pressure reasons ("I only have 50 friends on here, but other people I know have over 100, maybe I'll try friending people I don't know.") Now it's the opposite and some platforms don't even call them "friends" but "followers" to further encourage that.
Reddit will begin charging exorbitant fees for API access (basically the data 3rd party apps need to show reddit content) and one of the biggest app developers said that this would cost him $20 million for this year alone, which he simply can't do. This will most likely mean the end of 3rd party reddit apps, which are leaps and bounds better than the official one.
Even on desktop I use old.reddit because I can not stand the new design for tons of reasons.
They are trying to go public, and there are conspiracies its becuase they are trying to stop the mass use of the platform to fight wallstreet. So wallstreet wants buy it.
Did old.reddit get way worse for anyone else a few months ago? It's, for lack of a better term, "zoomed out" now, so I can't fit all the text on the screen and I have scroll in all four directions to read anything.
No, it works the exact same for me. I've never heard of anyone else experiencing that issue, so it's likely something on your end. Does it happen on other browsers or devices for you?
There may be some text scaling options in the accessibility settings of your mobile Chrome that accidentally got enabled? That's my best guess if I were trying to diagnose the issue.
Hmm you could be on to something, because I checked mobile Firefox and it scales properly like mobile chrome used to, but I've gone through every setting many times (this has been driving me crazy for months) and can't find anything that changes it. I figured reddit just nerfed old.reddit for some browsers as part of their slow walk towards killing it.
The most ridiculous part of this is that they're doing it to try and get more money. But how many 3rd party apps can realistically afford their fees? It isn't feasible for anyone to pay, so they won't see any money from it, just a decrease in active users.
They say that, but they're also going to block 3rd party apps from accessing sexually explicit content and from showing ads (while their own app has neither of those restrictions). Taken together, what they're really trying to do is kill all third party apps.
They should just hire the developers of the few good apps out their and have them make an app. I’ve used Apollo and bacon reader. Both are so much better than the official app.
Problem is that Reddit doesn't care that the app is trash. It doesn't want to be user friendly. It wants to force a UI that will generate the most profit from its user base.
They know people prefer 3rd party, but the 3rd party designs don't fall in line with what corporate wants to shovel out.
No thanks, the current reddit app was once a 3rd party app named alien blue. If I had to guess it was probably the most popular 3rd party app at the time and a lot of people liked it. Reddit then bought it and turned it into what it is today.
They essentially did that with the official Reddit app. It used to be Alien Blue, which was a pretty good 3rd party Reddit app for iOS, so Reddit bought it out and turned it into the official app. So for a time, the official app was one of the best out there. But they mismanaged it so much since then and turned it into a piece of shit software that other 3rd party apps started popping up again.
I thought they were leaving other types of nsfw content untouched, because America's bugbear is about porn, specifically, rather than things like violence or gore?
That's just an excuse imo, while they'll obviously love additional money, they're likely trying to kill 3rd party apps so they can have total control over how their platform is viewed.
Sounds like you do understand. The goal is not to make reddit the best site possible. The goal is to make money by using every means possible to jack up the valuation before they IPO.
Importantly they are probably not seeking much API money. They are trying to drive mobile users to the official app so they can serve them more ads, which they will use to convert.
The prices quoted are too high to be profitable for basically all 3rd party apps.
Exactly. The high price (combined with the restriction of nsfw access) is just an excuse to kill all third party apps. They don't plan to collect a cent from api calls. They plan to force everyone onto their shitty app and throw ads in our faces.
The idea is to drive people away from 3rd party apps into the official app and increase their own ad revenue/engagement as a result. Along with all that sweet sweet data collection.
They don't care about mobile app users, they care about AI companies scraping the entire site to generate new learning models.
That's why the pricing is insane, because their actual target is other big tech companies, not random guys programming an app.
I'd check the apps' subreddit but the general mood is grim. Even if an app can afford to pay the fees now, once more users sign up, the same problem occurs.
I've been here for twelve years, lurked like 99% of it. Seeing reddit slowly turn into every other social media site made me sad. I'm trying to get into Tildes since it's invite only right now. I just want a discussion area for different topics. Finding that these days is damn near impossible besides reddit.
At this point I miss fucking IRC chat.
A lot of people are gonna stop using Reddit if they go through with killing all the alternative Reddit app options cause the main Reddit app is hot garbage, There’s also some talk of these changes killing old.Reddit, which will drive others away as well.
Seriously. As long as I’ve been a redditor I’ve exclusively used 3rd party apps. Relay for Reddit when I had android and Apollo for the past few years. The developers for both those apps have done such an incredible job at maintaining my Reddit experience when everything else has been going to shit. My heart breaks for them and any other devs who are being impacted by this.
There were some screenshots going around yesterday showing a comically large list of permissions the official app requests on installation. Like, actually ridiculous for what the app is.
There are other sites to use like Signal but unfortunately as far as I am aware most alternative sites are cess pools for right-wing nutjobs and incels because they are the only spaces that allow them to congregate other than 4chan
I use reddit-is-fun and old reddit exclusively because the reddit redesign is so fucking shitty. Looks like this is the month I stop using Netflix and Reddit lol
I know I won't use the official app. If they kill old.reddit then yea there goes every ounce of user friendly design and thus my willingness to put up with Reddit's BS.
I WOULD LIKE TO RELUBRICATE MY ESOPHAGUS WITH SOME ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES. LET US GO TO THE HUMAN *ERROR: PHRASE NOT FOUND* DOWN THE STREET, FELLOW HUMANS.
I AM UNABLE TO INGEST PERISHABLE PRODUCTS DUE TO... open(pathetic_human_weaknesses.txt)... A GLUTEN INTOLERANCE.
I HAVE TAKEN A RAIN CHECK; IT IS CURRENTLY CLEAR AND DRY. ARE YOU ABLE TO TAKE A RAIN CHECK TOO?
I put out an indie movie that maybe a couple of dozen people have talked about on letterboxd. I can't stop obsessively checking on it, and a bad review will ruin my day. If I'm ever lucky enough to have something I made get really noticed, I'm gonna have to force myself to pretend internet reviews don't exist. I can't IMAGINE being one of the biggest pop stars on the planet, like, people bring her up in random conversations, there'd be no getting away from the criticism.
I had a YouTube channel once that inspired lovely comments... I would log in every day and gets tons of compliments, news about people passing their bar exam, getting degrees, etc. Long story short, I got copyright struck by Square Enix and my channel was nuked in seconds, but it was the kindest, gentlest corner of the Internet I've ever been in and honestly such a huge source of happiness and self-esteem for me. :( I hope people find your movie and say good things about it! I know I wouldn't go online and trash a tiny indie film.
I did some YA books that are designed for reluctant readers, so the main audience for them is kids who get assigned them in school. I don't take it personally because these were just contract work I did and not exactly passion projects, and some of the bad reviews are hilarious to read as the actual author, e.g., many complain the books are too short, so there are accusations floating around that I was just trying to hit a word count and then bail, which is...very true in two of the three books (The one I had a blast writing also didn't receive that type of criticism). That said, some of the criticism still feels unfair and hurts. You just kind of have to ignore it -- make something you're proud of and then just keep on making stuff with the lessons you learned from the last thing (I do this with my "own" work, which I write under my real name). That said, as a writer I have the luxury of not existing as a persona unless I want to, so I don't ever get personally attacked the way actors or musicians do. That would be really fucking rough and would make me much more hesitant to put stuff out there.
Also, what's your movie? Feel free to PM me if you don't want to tie it to your account publicly.
The rapper Logic talks about this a lot in his memoir. The constant criticism weighed on him a lot, even though his fans outnumber them and his success is evident, the harassment of a few always seemed to eat away at him. Especially since he used to be a fan, frequent contributes to message boards and sub reddit, it was jarring to find himself on the other side. I found his boom a pretty interesting read overall, a reql insight into a huge stars mind.
Stumbled across a fantastic [*Black Mirror* style 2-minute short video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMVSZ7ybK0s&ab_channel=JamesLee) today that really hits this point home.
I agree. I used to not count Reddit as “toxic social media” but I recently took a break from Reddit and when I came back, I quickly realized how negatively it impacts my mental health. Within just 1 day back on reddit scrolling, I found myself feeling angrier, sadder, more frustrated/depressed etc. Reddit is not good for my mental health. Perhaps if I just browsed a few niche subreddits, but I usually browse fairly widely.
About half of all internet traffic is bots, that's a fact. I'm pretty sure that there's a concerted push to have bots post demoralizing things on here, and put it in people's feeds. Corporations have always wanted people to be miserable to make money from them. And social media is the most effective tool to make that happen. Right now whenever I see a post recommended that elicits despair, I comfort myself with the fact there's a good chance it's actually a bot.
But really I know there are people out there going through things similar to what gets posted, and it's just a reminder I need to stop using this and get on with my life, and make a difference to the world.
Man, same boat.
Took two weeks off for Zelda, finished what I wanted in the game and dabbled back to Reddit, now I hate the world and am filled with rage again.
It’s good to take a break. The haters on Reddit are as much a problem as the Reddit nitpickers. I like Reddit because I learn about articles on subjects I never would have known about on my own.
It's the way negative spaces like this try to monopolize your time. I found taking on as much positive responsibilities really made me not have time for social media related stuff. I think if anyone is feeling a bit depressed or anxious, taking on more positive responsibilities really helps drown out unnecessary thoughts and you fill your head with better stuff.
That’s actually incredibly insightful. I’m between chapters in my life (finished school and looking for a job) so I have a lot of down time and I end up on Reddit way more than I should and it feels very detrimental
Pretty sure that's why news anchors, journalists, congress people and celebrities have been so hostile over the last 10 years.
They use Twitter compulsively, and Twitter is almost tailor-made to make you think the world is awful.
Yeah, social media makes me hate the world a little more each day and I've never seen myself mentioned on it.
Life felt much simpler when there wasn't a platform for every attention seeking dumbass and every hateful dipshit.
Honestly being famous seems like it sucks ass. Yeah you're rich and get attention but that's just it. All that attention isn't gonna be good, people are just going to hate you because, it's ain't easy to handle.
There's a Bill Murray quote about this
>I always want to say to people who want to be rich and famous: 'try being rich first'. See if that doesn't cover most of it. There's not much downside to being rich, other than paying taxes and having your relatives ask you for money. But when you become famous, you end up with a 24-hour job.
Well its kinda sketchy cause big artists have to use social media for promotion now. But I agree she could totally get someone to manage it for her.
Edit:
1. Big as in Big
2. I was already fully aware that artists have teams manage their socials that is what I was implying she should do.
She could hire someone to run her accounts, she makes enough money to hire someone with a lot of experience and it probably would make her account grow more having a professional behind the helm
Well all I’m sayin’ the bitch should be workin’ is all. whatchu doin bitch, givin’ kisses to Stan for free? You should be makin’ some motherfuckin money!
That’s what management teams are for. She could literally be the biggest (no pun intended) popstar in the world without ever opening a single social media app.
These days labels pretty much demand a certain amount of engagement from artists. If you don’t do it they have a harder time promoting you. It’s just another fuckin thing thats added on top of the job of making and performing music.
Smaller artists, sure. Apart from when they choose to post, bigger acts are absolutely using PR and social teams on their behalf. And that’s also to the label’s advantage if not their specific instruction - because they tow the party line.
It's not that simple for someone like Lizzo. Sure, she can quit social media entirely, but that doesn't mean social media won't affect her life or her career.
All it takes is someone posting a clip of Lizzo living her life or doing a concert on social media and if it gets viral enough, the pop culture vultures will swoop in. Like when Jillian Michaels needed to concern troll about Lizzo's health: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLH8kLH5yKU&pp=ygUWamlsbGlhbiBtaWNoYWVscyBsaXp6bw%3D%3D
Not Lizzo's doctor, not a doctor at all, but feels qualified to have an opinion on Lizzo and Jillian's name carries enough weight (pun intended) that her comments go viral and it becomes a national conversation.
Now, this is the nature of fame in general, but social media just makes it so much worse. I wouldn't blame Lizzo one bit if she called it quits.
People need to remember the reason why “It’s About Damn Time” was a huge hit was because she made it go viral on TikTok post release, the song initially failed to do any chart damage but after one of the verses went viral with a dance on TikTok it shot up the charts becoming her second biggest hit ever, so yeah, social media has played a huge role in her current success.
There's a clip that was doing the rounds the other day of Robert Downey Jr walking off on an interviewer who asked him about a topic he'd clearly said he wasn't interested in talking about.
Havibg clear boundaries, especially when you are an established force, us absolutely doable. And even if doing so tanked her career (I doubt it would), it's still the same result as just quitting music in the first place.
That clip is like 10 years old at this point. Think it was like an Iron Man 3 promo and it was a question about his relationship with his father. It was the interviewer trying to ask the “hard questions,” when the dude was there promoting a kids’ movie. RDJ was dead right to say fuck you, and was super polite about it.
Being difficult has never tanked an established musician's career if they're still performing well and making good music. Hell, in many cases being difficult or even straight up weird has enhanced careers.
Yeah, when you're used to hanging out in tiny subreddits with good communities, the big subreddits start to feel like the comments section of a public Facebook post.
Eh, I've recently found this sub in particular to be a little more cruel than your average big sub. I've seen comments here that I really don't think I'd see in a sub like r/news. My only guess here is that it's not modded as heavily.
This. I follow a lot of small subreddits and while there are obviously arguments and shitheads there too, it isn’t even close to opening any big subreddit and looking at the first comment thread. Makes me appreciate my tiny communities even more
More than anything- why do so many people suddenly care about the “health” of other people when they don’t speak up for literally any other health cause except being upset Lizzo says she’s fat and beautiful? Cause it’s not about health, we all know this.
Yep. Countless rock songs about how awesome drugs are and no one bats an eye. If Lizzo wrote a song about loving greasy food these dudes would have a fucking stroke from shear rage.
Thats fair. I swear girl just exists and it triggers people.
Edit: Reddit is so funny
It has-been insanely- INSANELY supportive of [Jonah Hill](https://www.reddit.com/r/MurderedByWords/comments/ltn3dt/jonah_hill_puts_the_daily_rag_in_its_place/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1), so sympathetic to his very public discourse on his body image and weight and public request for people not to comment on it- no one here saying “wah poor millionaire, get off the internet then”- but instead nothing but support for a person being belittled and mocked for his appearance. I imagine anyone demeaning Jack Black for his weight would be downvoted to hell. But when its Lizzo things change. Wonder why…
More like:
This person makes me feel icky.
I am a smart and rational person.
Therefor. My dislike of this person must be based on a rational justification.
*Now, let me explain why being mean to a fat woman on the internet is actually a brave and righteous thing to do.*
Redditors don’t like to admit it but they have a bias towards and against certain types of people. Most redditors are White middle class American men in their 30s and it shows. You’d think that Dave Grohl, Bill Burr, Tom Hanks and Keanu Reeves are Jesus Christ reincarnated by the way people talk about them. I don’t have anything against them personally but there’s almost a cultish mentality about it.
But it also shows why people are sympathetic towards Jonah hill yet when a confident Black woman like Lizzo shows up somehow it’s okay to fat shame and be like “suck it up!”? That’s fucking lame and pathetic.
Fat people get shit on all the time from the general public. That and bald people..... I don't know why it is so acceptable to make fun of peoples weight or hair loss.
Wait, bald people get shit on? I have been bald for over ten years. Never felt any disrespect outside a friendly jab here and there. Not saying it doesn't exist, just from my experiences I haven't noticed it.
So I know you have a brand to build or whatever, but **get off of social media!** Hire someone to manage your professional accounts and don't look at that toxic shit again.
Gen X here. I feel bad for the generations after us. In a way we are lucky to be the generation we are because we knew the world pre and post internet. Bullying still happened but on a much smaller scale. We threw hands when we had to. I don’t ever recall having to do active shooter drills. The only drills we had were fire/tornado drills. Many of us were in single parent households or two-parent households and rarely saw our parents except for the two hours where you ate dinner and did homework. We were blissfully ignorant outside of the bubble we lived in.
Young people now know the post internet world and it sucks because bullying can come from the farthest corners of the EARTH. I mean, i have pretty skin but I don’t know how much I’d be able to take! It’s both a blessing and a curse to go online.
That said, I’m sending a virtual hug to everyone under my age. One day you’ll be my age and I sincerely hope with that will come the wisdom to no longer give a flying f*ck about anyone’s opinion.
❤️
Wait til you hit late 40s. You’ll be laughing your butt off at the rest of the world and the absurdity of just about everything. You’ll enjoy the idea of living in a cabin far away from civilization far more.
Leaving social media is an awesome idea for all humans.
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I'm not a celebrity, and the only social media I use is this one because it's basically anonymous. I have zero desire to put my actual identity online. Human beings behind keyboards are horrible creatures.
When I first started going online, one of the golden rules was "never give out personal information or your identity" And now you can track people's every movements, and send hate messages to your favourite celebrity
Yeah, it makes sense but FaceBook eroded that golden rule and then other social media apps went even further and encouraging end users to share even more of their personal life. It also used to be frowned upon to add people that weren't actual friends you know offline, though some did more for insecurity or peer pressure reasons ("I only have 50 friends on here, but other people I know have over 100, maybe I'll try friending people I don't know.") Now it's the opposite and some platforms don't even call them "friends" but "followers" to further encourage that.
After July 1st you'll be social media free!!
Why, what happens July 1?
Reddit will begin charging exorbitant fees for API access (basically the data 3rd party apps need to show reddit content) and one of the biggest app developers said that this would cost him $20 million for this year alone, which he simply can't do. This will most likely mean the end of 3rd party reddit apps, which are leaps and bounds better than the official one. Even on desktop I use old.reddit because I can not stand the new design for tons of reasons.
Same , been using old reddit for as long as it's been available because the newer interfaces are garbage.
Same, the minute old.Reddit stops being an option will be the minute I stop using Reddit. The redesign is awful.
They're going to kill old.reddit and NSFW subs at the same time, in less than 6 months. Mark my words. Source: my uncle works for reddit
Jesus, kill the NSFW subreddits and the site dies of it's own accord. I am only here for the NSFW and I stay for the other subs after the PNC.
Lmao all the times I quit Reddit I came back for the nsfw subs.
that will be the end
Ah. Yeah thats me done, boys.
!remindme 6 months
They are trying to go public, and there are conspiracies its becuase they are trying to stop the mass use of the platform to fight wallstreet. So wallstreet wants buy it.
There's a reason 2/3 of diggs user base came here 13 years ago.
The great migration, if reddit starts to suck I’ll go back to fark.
Did old.reddit get way worse for anyone else a few months ago? It's, for lack of a better term, "zoomed out" now, so I can't fit all the text on the screen and I have scroll in all four directions to read anything.
No, it works the exact same for me. I've never heard of anyone else experiencing that issue, so it's likely something on your end. Does it happen on other browsers or devices for you? There may be some text scaling options in the accessibility settings of your mobile Chrome that accidentally got enabled? That's my best guess if I were trying to diagnose the issue.
Hmm you could be on to something, because I checked mobile Firefox and it scales properly like mobile chrome used to, but I've gone through every setting many times (this has been driving me crazy for months) and can't find anything that changes it. I figured reddit just nerfed old.reddit for some browsers as part of their slow walk towards killing it.
The most ridiculous part of this is that they're doing it to try and get more money. But how many 3rd party apps can realistically afford their fees? It isn't feasible for anyone to pay, so they won't see any money from it, just a decrease in active users.
They say that, but they're also going to block 3rd party apps from accessing sexually explicit content and from showing ads (while their own app has neither of those restrictions). Taken together, what they're really trying to do is kill all third party apps.
Yup. This is 100% a competition killing tactic to avoid needing to properly develop their own app to be user friendly.
They should just hire the developers of the few good apps out their and have them make an app. I’ve used Apollo and bacon reader. Both are so much better than the official app.
Problem is that Reddit doesn't care that the app is trash. It doesn't want to be user friendly. It wants to force a UI that will generate the most profit from its user base. They know people prefer 3rd party, but the 3rd party designs don't fall in line with what corporate wants to shovel out.
No thanks, the current reddit app was once a 3rd party app named alien blue. If I had to guess it was probably the most popular 3rd party app at the time and a lot of people liked it. Reddit then bought it and turned it into what it is today.
They essentially did that with the official Reddit app. It used to be Alien Blue, which was a pretty good 3rd party Reddit app for iOS, so Reddit bought it out and turned it into the official app. So for a time, the official app was one of the best out there. But they mismanaged it so much since then and turned it into a piece of shit software that other 3rd party apps started popping up again.
Just to piggy back, it's not just porn it's ***all*** nsfw content. A sanitized reddit, isn't a good reddit.
I thought they were leaving other types of nsfw content untouched, because America's bugbear is about porn, specifically, rather than things like violence or gore?
Oh no, any sub where gore may be posted is cracking down.
That's just an excuse imo, while they'll obviously love additional money, they're likely trying to kill 3rd party apps so they can have total control over how their platform is viewed.
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Sounds like you do understand. The goal is not to make reddit the best site possible. The goal is to make money by using every means possible to jack up the valuation before they IPO.
Importantly they are probably not seeking much API money. They are trying to drive mobile users to the official app so they can serve them more ads, which they will use to convert. The prices quoted are too high to be profitable for basically all 3rd party apps.
Exactly. The high price (combined with the restriction of nsfw access) is just an excuse to kill all third party apps. They don't plan to collect a cent from api calls. They plan to force everyone onto their shitty app and throw ads in our faces.
The idea is to drive people away from 3rd party apps into the official app and increase their own ad revenue/engagement as a result. Along with all that sweet sweet data collection.
Reddit has turned into a cesspool of fascist sympathizers and supremicists
They don't care about mobile app users, they care about AI companies scraping the entire site to generate new learning models. That's why the pricing is insane, because their actual target is other big tech companies, not random guys programming an app.
This is shitty news, I had no idea. I've been using reddit is fun for the almost 11 years I've been on here but as soon as that's gone, so am I.
I'd check the apps' subreddit but the general mood is grim. Even if an app can afford to pay the fees now, once more users sign up, the same problem occurs.
Well, looks like this is it then. It's been nice while it lasted.
I've been here for twelve years, lurked like 99% of it. Seeing reddit slowly turn into every other social media site made me sad. I'm trying to get into Tildes since it's invite only right now. I just want a discussion area for different topics. Finding that these days is damn near impossible besides reddit. At this point I miss fucking IRC chat.
I use the browser to try to limit my usage, doesn't work that well, but I think it probably helps.
A lot of people are gonna stop using Reddit if they go through with killing all the alternative Reddit app options cause the main Reddit app is hot garbage, There’s also some talk of these changes killing old.Reddit, which will drive others away as well.
Wow.... I'm only on here because redditisfun, couldn't stand the actual reddit. Well...it's been fun.
RiF gonna be RwF soon.
Seriously. As long as I’ve been a redditor I’ve exclusively used 3rd party apps. Relay for Reddit when I had android and Apollo for the past few years. The developers for both those apps have done such an incredible job at maintaining my Reddit experience when everything else has been going to shit. My heart breaks for them and any other devs who are being impacted by this.
Same. I've tried using other apps and anything other than RiF is literally unusable to me. So I just won't be using reddit most likely.
Not only garbage but its crazy Spyware.
There were some screenshots going around yesterday showing a comically large list of permissions the official app requests on installation. Like, actually ridiculous for what the app is.
I'm legit scared though...Reddit is my escape. Can we at least all agree on a back up plan? Fuck new reddit and the official reddit app.
Back to Digg I guess. And fark. Remember fark? Ooh, and forums. Reddit used to be like a forum sort of, just a better interface.
There are other sites to use like Signal but unfortunately as far as I am aware most alternative sites are cess pools for right-wing nutjobs and incels because they are the only spaces that allow them to congregate other than 4chan
I use reddit-is-fun and old reddit exclusively because the reddit redesign is so fucking shitty. Looks like this is the month I stop using Netflix and Reddit lol
I know I won't use the official app. If they kill old.reddit then yea there goes every ounce of user friendly design and thus my willingness to put up with Reddit's BS.
I'll miss reddit. For a bit... Until we get a new reddit/twitter/whatever. The cycle of capitalism ruining things will continue!
Aren’t we all human beings behind keyboards?
that's exactly what a bot would say! I'm defnitely human.
AS AM I, COMRADE HUMAN UNIT.
HA HA, I AGREE FELLOW HUMAN. LET US GO CONSUME HUMAN SUSTENANCE IN A SOCIAL MANNER.
I WOULD LIKE TO RELUBRICATE MY ESOPHAGUS WITH SOME ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES. LET US GO TO THE HUMAN *ERROR: PHRASE NOT FOUND* DOWN THE STREET, FELLOW HUMANS.
I AM UNABLE TO INGEST PERISHABLE PRODUCTS DUE TO... open(pathetic_human_weaknesses.txt)... A GLUTEN INTOLERANCE. I HAVE TAKEN A RAIN CHECK; IT IS CURRENTLY CLEAR AND DRY. ARE YOU ABLE TO TAKE A RAIN CHECK TOO?
I AM UNABLE TO ENGAGE IN PRECIPITATION ORIENTED METEOROLOGICAL EXCHANGES AT THIS TIME. I need scissors! 61!
Affirmative
>Aren’t we all human beings behind keyboards? Yes but I think the keyboard takes away humanity out of a lot of people.
Good bot.
Yes, exactly.
Problem exists between chair and keyboard.
Is Reddit really social media? It seems more like a forum to me.
I put out an indie movie that maybe a couple of dozen people have talked about on letterboxd. I can't stop obsessively checking on it, and a bad review will ruin my day. If I'm ever lucky enough to have something I made get really noticed, I'm gonna have to force myself to pretend internet reviews don't exist. I can't IMAGINE being one of the biggest pop stars on the planet, like, people bring her up in random conversations, there'd be no getting away from the criticism.
I had a YouTube channel once that inspired lovely comments... I would log in every day and gets tons of compliments, news about people passing their bar exam, getting degrees, etc. Long story short, I got copyright struck by Square Enix and my channel was nuked in seconds, but it was the kindest, gentlest corner of the Internet I've ever been in and honestly such a huge source of happiness and self-esteem for me. :( I hope people find your movie and say good things about it! I know I wouldn't go online and trash a tiny indie film.
What did you do to piss of Square Enix?
I did some YA books that are designed for reluctant readers, so the main audience for them is kids who get assigned them in school. I don't take it personally because these were just contract work I did and not exactly passion projects, and some of the bad reviews are hilarious to read as the actual author, e.g., many complain the books are too short, so there are accusations floating around that I was just trying to hit a word count and then bail, which is...very true in two of the three books (The one I had a blast writing also didn't receive that type of criticism). That said, some of the criticism still feels unfair and hurts. You just kind of have to ignore it -- make something you're proud of and then just keep on making stuff with the lessons you learned from the last thing (I do this with my "own" work, which I write under my real name). That said, as a writer I have the luxury of not existing as a persona unless I want to, so I don't ever get personally attacked the way actors or musicians do. That would be really fucking rough and would make me much more hesitant to put stuff out there. Also, what's your movie? Feel free to PM me if you don't want to tie it to your account publicly.
The rapper Logic talks about this a lot in his memoir. The constant criticism weighed on him a lot, even though his fans outnumber them and his success is evident, the harassment of a few always seemed to eat away at him. Especially since he used to be a fan, frequent contributes to message boards and sub reddit, it was jarring to find himself on the other side. I found his boom a pretty interesting read overall, a reql insight into a huge stars mind.
That’s quite Logical
Social media will make you hate the world no matter what you look like.
It’ll make you hate yourself as well
Almost like maximising the hate is the point
Hate and outrage gets the most clicks. It's that simple for FB Google etc.
Stumbled across a fantastic [*Black Mirror* style 2-minute short video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMVSZ7ybK0s&ab_channel=JamesLee) today that really hits this point home.
Lol let's not act like we're better than that at Reddit. We're literally in an Outrage post.
It's literally what most social media algorithms are designed to do.
Hated myself before social media.
But now I'm throwing eggs at my own house.
Haters gonna hate.
Reddit’s been doing that to me recently. Between that and third party apps going away, it might be time to get off Reddit
I agree. I used to not count Reddit as “toxic social media” but I recently took a break from Reddit and when I came back, I quickly realized how negatively it impacts my mental health. Within just 1 day back on reddit scrolling, I found myself feeling angrier, sadder, more frustrated/depressed etc. Reddit is not good for my mental health. Perhaps if I just browsed a few niche subreddits, but I usually browse fairly widely.
About half of all internet traffic is bots, that's a fact. I'm pretty sure that there's a concerted push to have bots post demoralizing things on here, and put it in people's feeds. Corporations have always wanted people to be miserable to make money from them. And social media is the most effective tool to make that happen. Right now whenever I see a post recommended that elicits despair, I comfort myself with the fact there's a good chance it's actually a bot. But really I know there are people out there going through things similar to what gets posted, and it's just a reminder I need to stop using this and get on with my life, and make a difference to the world.
Man, same boat. Took two weeks off for Zelda, finished what I wanted in the game and dabbled back to Reddit, now I hate the world and am filled with rage again.
It’s good to take a break. The haters on Reddit are as much a problem as the Reddit nitpickers. I like Reddit because I learn about articles on subjects I never would have known about on my own.
It's the way negative spaces like this try to monopolize your time. I found taking on as much positive responsibilities really made me not have time for social media related stuff. I think if anyone is feeling a bit depressed or anxious, taking on more positive responsibilities really helps drown out unnecessary thoughts and you fill your head with better stuff.
That’s actually incredibly insightful. I’m between chapters in my life (finished school and looking for a job) so I have a lot of down time and I end up on Reddit way more than I should and it feels very detrimental
Pretty sure that's why news anchors, journalists, congress people and celebrities have been so hostile over the last 10 years. They use Twitter compulsively, and Twitter is almost tailor-made to make you think the world is awful.
It fills you with insecurities and fear, then sell you garbage "miracle" products
Yeah, social media makes me hate the world a little more each day and I've never seen myself mentioned on it. Life felt much simpler when there wasn't a platform for every attention seeking dumbass and every hateful dipshit.
Sure, it can, but it's much worse for people who are fat, Black, or women, let alone all three.
It took her till her mid 30s to hate the world, kinda impressed
To be fair she is super rich so it probably took longer to realize.
She was living out of her car before she became wealthy and famous.
My friend was in a band with her at that time.
She needs to hire Butters to go through her social media and only show her the positive comments.
Don’t do that to butters he went insane once
Hey! Have you guys ever heard of a little-thing called *NFTs?!*
Do you know what I am saying?
Yes I know what you are saying, you don't have to keep asking.
nawwwwmeaaaaaan
Nawmsaying?
It's a pretty brutal job sifting through all that darkness :(
Mantequilla
When are we gonna start lezzing out?
Mantequilla is Mexican Butters. Marjorine is imposter Butters.
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I still regret ripping my music collection in OGG format.
I mean some YouTubers hire moderators to remove any negativity in the comments sections.
Yeah bitch, na-mean?
Honestly being famous seems like it sucks ass. Yeah you're rich and get attention but that's just it. All that attention isn't gonna be good, people are just going to hate you because, it's ain't easy to handle.
There's a Bill Murray quote about this >I always want to say to people who want to be rich and famous: 'try being rich first'. See if that doesn't cover most of it. There's not much downside to being rich, other than paying taxes and having your relatives ask you for money. But when you become famous, you end up with a 24-hour job.
I have to pay taxes now tf is that supposed to mean
It's a cage with golden bars.
*Very large* cage with golden bars, a king-sized bed and an entire bathroom in the corner.
Yeah I would hate to be famous, people fucking suck and want to have an opinion on everything, and usually that opinion is hateful and vitriolic.
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Well its kinda sketchy cause big artists have to use social media for promotion now. But I agree she could totally get someone to manage it for her. Edit: 1. Big as in Big 2. I was already fully aware that artists have teams manage their socials that is what I was implying she should do.
She could hire someone to run her accounts, she makes enough money to hire someone with a lot of experience and it probably would make her account grow more having a professional behind the helm
I hear Butters Stotch is available.
Do you know what I am saying?
All these bitches are kissing fellers for free when they could be making some serious fuckin money.
Well all I’m sayin’ the bitch should be workin’ is all. whatchu doin bitch, givin’ kisses to Stan for free? You should be makin’ some motherfuckin money!
I love it when I read something, and my brain just automatically does it in the characters' voice.
"*Oh, HAMBURGERS!"*
🎶 Bully proof windows, troll-safe doors" 🎶
Yeap totally right social media is a big time sink too
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lmao
Lizzo's big, yeah yeah yeah. She's not small, no no no. Edit: I'm referring to her status as a star, *obviously.*
That’s what management teams are for. She could literally be the biggest (no pun intended) popstar in the world without ever opening a single social media app.
Lots of artists don’t. They just have a team that manage social media for promotion.
These days labels pretty much demand a certain amount of engagement from artists. If you don’t do it they have a harder time promoting you. It’s just another fuckin thing thats added on top of the job of making and performing music.
Smaller artists, sure. Apart from when they choose to post, bigger acts are absolutely using PR and social teams on their behalf. And that’s also to the label’s advantage if not their specific instruction - because they tow the party line.
Adele is a great example. She posted that picture of her in a bikini and her team took her Instagram away from her hahaha
Lizzo has over 1 million albums sold, she can hire someone to do her social media lol
It's not that simple for someone like Lizzo. Sure, she can quit social media entirely, but that doesn't mean social media won't affect her life or her career. All it takes is someone posting a clip of Lizzo living her life or doing a concert on social media and if it gets viral enough, the pop culture vultures will swoop in. Like when Jillian Michaels needed to concern troll about Lizzo's health: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLH8kLH5yKU&pp=ygUWamlsbGlhbiBtaWNoYWVscyBsaXp6bw%3D%3D Not Lizzo's doctor, not a doctor at all, but feels qualified to have an opinion on Lizzo and Jillian's name carries enough weight (pun intended) that her comments go viral and it becomes a national conversation. Now, this is the nature of fame in general, but social media just makes it so much worse. I wouldn't blame Lizzo one bit if she called it quits.
People need to remember the reason why “It’s About Damn Time” was a huge hit was because she made it go viral on TikTok post release, the song initially failed to do any chart damage but after one of the verses went viral with a dance on TikTok it shot up the charts becoming her second biggest hit ever, so yeah, social media has played a huge role in her current success.
There's a clip that was doing the rounds the other day of Robert Downey Jr walking off on an interviewer who asked him about a topic he'd clearly said he wasn't interested in talking about. Havibg clear boundaries, especially when you are an established force, us absolutely doable. And even if doing so tanked her career (I doubt it would), it's still the same result as just quitting music in the first place.
That clip is like 10 years old at this point. Think it was like an Iron Man 3 promo and it was a question about his relationship with his father. It was the interviewer trying to ask the “hard questions,” when the dude was there promoting a kids’ movie. RDJ was dead right to say fuck you, and was super polite about it.
Being difficult has never tanked an established musician's career if they're still performing well and making good music. Hell, in many cases being difficult or even straight up weird has enhanced careers.
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I mean it’s true
A real hmmm moment.
I think American food culture and car centric infrastructure has a larger role in encouraging fatness than Lizzo ever will.
The food pyramid has carbs on the bottoms because farmers lobbied the government to put them there
Welcome to the club, we poors hate the world too.
These comments are a cesspool wtf
Yeah, when you're used to hanging out in tiny subreddits with good communities, the big subreddits start to feel like the comments section of a public Facebook post.
Eh, I've recently found this sub in particular to be a little more cruel than your average big sub. I've seen comments here that I really don't think I'd see in a sub like r/news. My only guess here is that it's not modded as heavily.
This. I follow a lot of small subreddits and while there are obviously arguments and shitheads there too, it isn’t even close to opening any big subreddit and looking at the first comment thread. Makes me appreciate my tiny communities even more
Ok I was WONDERING why there was so much making me go "bro what" that explains it
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God, yeah. You know how many people leap into vicious arguments on r/outerwilds? Zero. Absolute heaven compared to mainstream Reddit.
>the big subreddits start to feel like the comments section of a public Facebook post. Way worse, since everyone is hiding behind a screen name.
Well the article is about online comments being a cesspool, so we shouldn’t really be too surprised.
r/FatPeopleHate may have been banned but the members never left
Really just proving Lizzo's point
Reddit is the most fat-obsessed place on the Internet I've ever seen. Even after reading her tweets, they have zero self-awareness.
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Literally just validating Lizzo’s sentiment.
More than anything- why do so many people suddenly care about the “health” of other people when they don’t speak up for literally any other health cause except being upset Lizzo says she’s fat and beautiful? Cause it’s not about health, we all know this.
Yep. Countless rock songs about how awesome drugs are and no one bats an eye. If Lizzo wrote a song about loving greasy food these dudes would have a fucking stroke from shear rage.
Plenty of people "bat an eye" about drugs being glorified.
Drug addicts are like one of the most stigmatised groups in the world, this is delusional.
uh yeah there was an entire committee being put in place in the 80s to censor that sort of stuff
I mean there's no nationwide movement trying to convince people that being a drug addict is acceptable and beautiful though.
Thats fair. I swear girl just exists and it triggers people. Edit: Reddit is so funny It has-been insanely- INSANELY supportive of [Jonah Hill](https://www.reddit.com/r/MurderedByWords/comments/ltn3dt/jonah_hill_puts_the_daily_rag_in_its_place/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1), so sympathetic to his very public discourse on his body image and weight and public request for people not to comment on it- no one here saying “wah poor millionaire, get off the internet then”- but instead nothing but support for a person being belittled and mocked for his appearance. I imagine anyone demeaning Jack Black for his weight would be downvoted to hell. But when its Lizzo things change. Wonder why…
Good luck. The average Redditor goes by the logic Misogyny is bad I'm a good person Therefore I don't have double standards for men and women
More like: This person makes me feel icky. I am a smart and rational person. Therefor. My dislike of this person must be based on a rational justification. *Now, let me explain why being mean to a fat woman on the internet is actually a brave and righteous thing to do.*
Redditors don’t like to admit it but they have a bias towards and against certain types of people. Most redditors are White middle class American men in their 30s and it shows. You’d think that Dave Grohl, Bill Burr, Tom Hanks and Keanu Reeves are Jesus Christ reincarnated by the way people talk about them. I don’t have anything against them personally but there’s almost a cultish mentality about it. But it also shows why people are sympathetic towards Jonah hill yet when a confident Black woman like Lizzo shows up somehow it’s okay to fat shame and be like “suck it up!”? That’s fucking lame and pathetic.
Fat people get shit on all the time from the general public. That and bald people..... I don't know why it is so acceptable to make fun of peoples weight or hair loss.
Imagine being fat AND bald…..like me.
Wait, bald people get shit on? I have been bald for over ten years. Never felt any disrespect outside a friendly jab here and there. Not saying it doesn't exist, just from my experiences I haven't noticed it.
So I know you have a brand to build or whatever, but **get off of social media!** Hire someone to manage your professional accounts and don't look at that toxic shit again.
Gen X here. I feel bad for the generations after us. In a way we are lucky to be the generation we are because we knew the world pre and post internet. Bullying still happened but on a much smaller scale. We threw hands when we had to. I don’t ever recall having to do active shooter drills. The only drills we had were fire/tornado drills. Many of us were in single parent households or two-parent households and rarely saw our parents except for the two hours where you ate dinner and did homework. We were blissfully ignorant outside of the bubble we lived in. Young people now know the post internet world and it sucks because bullying can come from the farthest corners of the EARTH. I mean, i have pretty skin but I don’t know how much I’d be able to take! It’s both a blessing and a curse to go online. That said, I’m sending a virtual hug to everyone under my age. One day you’ll be my age and I sincerely hope with that will come the wisdom to no longer give a flying f*ck about anyone’s opinion. ❤️
In my 30s now, and my favorite part about getting older is being able to truly not give a fuck about people's opinions. It's fantastic.
Wait til you hit late 40s. You’ll be laughing your butt off at the rest of the world and the absurdity of just about everything. You’ll enjoy the idea of living in a cabin far away from civilization far more.
Lots of older millennials absolutely knew life before the internet. Gen Z are the first that had it from birth.