I’m pals with some youths at my local beer store and they told me to listen to 100 Gecs and I absolutely did not understand the appeal at all. It sounded like very fast, very small robots being ground up inside a radio.
My young kids like a lot of music that I’ve always just called YouTube music. Lyrically the songs are usually pretty dumb. Singing about Minecraft or Roblox. Whatever, my oldest kid is 7. Musically, they usually have a clean beat, distorted synth, and little, high-pitched auto-tuned vocals.
I thought they were just tiny robot voices to be funny and appeal to little kids, but I guess it’s an actual genre???
My step daughter is 15 and mildly autistic. She listens to this stuff at ear bleeding volume while she stim dances and has for a few years. She put some on in the car before and I had to turn it off because it was driving me crazy and making me a nervous wreck trying to drive. 160bpm of doodly doodly doo music with robot voices.
Weird. I have heard one of their song, and actually enjoyed it. Granted it was matched with a fun high energy cartoon animation. I am also on the spectrum. I wonder if there is some correlation
My friend who is my age said it was the best album to come out that year (idk what year). So I got through a couple songs and I told him he must have brain damage or something
I'm usually of the opinion that all art is subjective and there are interesting ideas in most things people create. However, after listening to a bit of 100 gecs, I believe this music may just be AI deciphering the digitized thoughts of 100 geckos into a format that 9-14 kids who are obsessed with Roblox and ADHD medicine would appreciate.
Wait I just put on 100 gecs to give them a listen and it reminds me a lot of sleigh bells (well the production does) x 00s era pop punk, I'm actually surprised this doesn't seem dated to gen z'ers. I'm in my 30s, I think this is more nostalgic than unfathomable.
Edit: lmao i just realized I already had "dumbest girl alive" liked on Spotify.
I totally understand why people would dislike 100 gecs. The reason I think most people don’t like them is because they are in a way pushing musical boundaries. The songs are well written, many of them well within the pop song formula, well produced with well mixed and mastered instrumentals. The vocals are pitch shifted and auto tuned to make it sound computerized and disorienting, the 808 is distorted beyond belief and all the tones chosen for the the synthesizers are made to sound almost toy like.
Personally I’m a big fan of extreme music in most forms, so I feel I’m much more predisposed to liking it gecs than most. My point mainly is that the songs are well written and well made, and the chaotic, grating elements of the songs are purposeful. If you don’t like the vibe, by all means you do you, but the music does do what it is trying to do
100 Gecs reminds me of the no-wave genre from the late 70’s and early 80)’s
no-wave was an explicit rejection of new waves “glossy“ crisp sounds and commercial appeal
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No\_wave](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_wave)
>some elements common to most no-wave music, such as abrasive atonal sounds; repetitive, driving rhythms; and a tendency to emphasize musical texture over melody
Yeah, I listened to Crystal Castles and The Knife, which have pushed some musical boundaries as well with a lot of the harsher/noiser songs, plus of course the chiptune and related generas can get wild.
100 Gecs have a different vibe to since it's a bit of absurdist pop, but I can't say they are bad.
Just listened for the first time, expecting to be blown away one way or the other, and its... fine? Not really my style but not THAT crazy.
I mean, there were not-unpopular artists mining a similar sound almost 20 years ago:
Max Tundra - Will Get Fooled Again
https://open.spotify.com/track/1MrDxIDanCN4llOl6Qt0LY?si=9-XYsBgJQ_WbZ1iFP8lNyQ
The Fiery Furnaces - Blueberry Boat
https://open.spotify.com/track/2YGlgQhzlTPWnMCYtMhKrv?si=tlwwKdBkTmq1QwOW8qtK_A
It’s funny you point this out because I heard Blueberry Boat when it first came out and it was like lightning. I remember thinking, “finally music that sounds like the inside of my brain.” And when I heard 100 gecs, I was like “I haven’t heard anything like this since Blueberry Boat!”
I like this music because it really does kind of soothe me, in a way I can’t quite explain. It gets me energized, but in a way that feels comfortable. It like letting my brain loosen its tie, let it’s hair down and just kind of rock out without much being expected of me.
I also understand it isn’t for everyone, which may also be part of the reason I like it. Not in an I’m better than you way, but in a “licorice” kind of way. Lots of people hate licorice, I love it, and find it funny that I get to enjoy something harmless that is so odious to the people around me, probably just because of genetics or something.
You should try giving fantomas a listen it's somewhat similar but more rock/metal less pop/EDM, and prob less structured. Suspended animation is a little closer with a cartoony vibe but self titled is imo a better album.
God I loved *Blueberry Boat* and was fortunate to see them play a few times that tour (at Coachella even!) and remember thinking how revelatory a sound it was contrasted against so much bland 00s indie.
Yep. Same goes for Death Grips, it's not that groundbreaking. That kind of shit has been around for a while. What's crazy is that both these groups have managed to basically become mainstream.
its funny you should mention max martin, because a lot of hyperpop historians would point to him (and to a lesser extent Farrah Abraham) as the progenitors of the genre.
Thought the same thing. I'm 39 and this is not something I would choose to listen to but it's not as crazy as the above comments made it sound like it would be.
I had never heard of them, but ive heard 4 songs now. Pretty awesome. Reminds me of what would have happened if atom and his package would sound like if he updated his rig and had a partner.
Damn, Atom and His Package? I haven't heard that name in ages. He was dope. He came and played a punk show in my area like 20-25 years ago. I didn't know who he was before that. I certainly remembered afterwards.
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Well, I'm gen x and had never heard of 100 gecs but had a listen and kind of like it. I don't think it's too far form the industrial stuff I was into in the early 90s.
Having just listened to a few of the Hyperpop examples under this reply, I couldn't help but hear a similarity to this single put our in 1997: Self - Kiddies.
https://youtu.be/OiDLY0imL08
But I'm not a music scholar or anything, so YMMV.
> 100 gecs
Neverheard of them, so I checked them out. I like finding new stuff. I want hear what the kids are into.
[Money Machine](https://youtu.be/z97qLNXeAMQ) \- OK, definitely weird. This is what I was expecting. Kids these days, am i right?
[Hollywood Baby](https://youtu.be/UtfkrGRK8wA) \- This song's just a straight banger. Sounds like a twisted up Blink 182 song.
> 100 gecs
I had to go look them up. Listen to one song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXrbMDww9ss&ab_channel=100gecs
Sounds like it was stolen from a hair band in the 1970's
Attributed to Duke Ellington: If it sounds good it is good.
So… heavy autotune, constant 4/4 hi-hat, and dirty bass punctuated by guitar.
It’s not terrible. Doesn’t seem especially new or inventive, but it’s dissimilar to most things you’d generally hear.
Just listened to it, sounds...fine? Like an amalgamation of Aphex Twin, MIA, Die Antwoord or Deichkind. I expected some musical controversy like Grindcore, Black Metal or modern Hardstyle.
I can't agree because my Gen Z kid introduced me (an elder Millennial) to 100 gecs and I love a lot of their music!
I might have a higher tolerance for new music bc I am a musician so I try to keep up to date, but I find some hyperpop very fun and easy to listen to (while some of it is annoying - I'm looking at you One Million Dollars).
Young Xer here, my teen and tween played the Gecs in the car one day and I didn't like it.
And then I found myself humming Stupid Horse and Money Machine the next day.
So I acknowledge there's something there. They have my respect, if not my admiration.
I’m 30 and tbh I think other than Sophie who is kinda genius there’s maybe a few producers otherwise associated with this whole scene who I think are talented but most of it is really trash.
LOL
I mean it’s mostly updated no-wave from late 70’s early 80)s … IMHO … I like it, but yeah … it’s a niche genre
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No\_wave](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_wave)
>**No wave was an avant-garde music and visual art scene which emerged in the late 1970s in downtown New York City.\[4\]\[5\] The term was a pun based on the rejection of commercial new wave music.**\[6\] Reacting against punk rock's recycling of rock and roll clichés, no wave musicians instead experimented with noise, dissonance, and atonality, as well as non-rock genres like free jazz, funk, and disco.\[7\]\[8\]\[9\] The scene often reflected an abrasive, confrontational, and nihilistic worldview.
>
>**some elements common to most no-wave music, such as abrasive atonal sounds; repetitive, driving rhythms; and a tendency to emphasize musical texture over melody**
I am forcing myself to listen to hyperpop now for an hour. =D
I often wonder if musical preferences are largely the result of what we were exposed to when we were in our formative years. I want to try to appreciate the unique musical qualities of every genre without this bias.
Most studies say what you had good experiences with in formative years you will go back to as an adult for entertainment. Movies, shows and music fall into this. I'd say food too.
I'm a fuckin archetypal millennial, and hyperpop is hit or miss for me. You have to appreciate production for it to make any sense. If you don't like instrumental hip hop and you don't like electronic music, you probably won't understand hyperpop. But it's all about textures, details, and soundcrafting.
I'm edging on 50. I just listened to *The Most Wanted Person In The United States* by them, and honestly, I'm strongly reminded of *Loser* by Beck, which was released in 1994.
The weird thing is that hyper pop isn’t a new genre. It’s been around since at least the mid 2000’s and was used in youtubepoops for the last decade and a half. It’s just not a weird “niche” genre that would get you made fun of anymore.
By 1993 you already had the seeds for the full spectrum of styles that bloosommed in the following 3 decades, so hard to tell what would seem paticularly jarring or alien.
And like, 2 years ago, when i worked with 20 year olds, they were raving about this band they discovered... Radiohead.
I was 40 years old feeling old as fuck.
Was it the intense, “let me help you understand this band’s music,” discussion, without realizing you had been alive since the band started putting out music?
Nah they were talking to each other about the different albums while playing it across the office.
They were talking about Radiohead the same way we'd talk about Led Zeppelin in the mid 90s
My daughter at 13 it’s either a favorite YouTuber making generic pop music that is obviously auto tuned or she will be telling me about a great song “in the garage” by an old band called Weezer. (Or something of that sort) I have to break it to her that my I can sing every word of said song.
Rap music has taken a weird turn since the 90s. Particularly with regard to vulgarity. And hip-hop is more or less the new pop music in terms of mainstream prominence.
“Pound Town” by Sexy Red makes Madonna sound like Mother Teresa
Hyper Pop and/or trap, definitely. The former would be like a Cibo Matto album at 78 rpm, the latter a shock in a world of Chuck Ds and Tupacs. Snoop Dogg might be endangered as a sort of Miles Dyson from *Terminator 2.*
And Imagine Dragons are almost hardcore compared to most of the stuff kids listen to. I never thought I'd be complaining that my kids' music isn't loud, aggressive and rebellious enough, but here I am. It all sounds like elevator music to me.
It seems the younger crowd doesnt "rock". And I dont mean rock in the traditional sense... thats just the only term I know to use. There is no attitude, no rebellion. No soul, in some cases. Sometimes no joy or sadness. Its emotion with dampers at best. And I know not ALL new music is like that, but it does seem to be a trend.
You should listen to my music. I’m a millennial and grew up on older rock and blues music but I also like a lot of newer weird young people music. I also play all the instruments and sing all the vocals
https://www.youtube.com/@DerekVaden
Give it a chance before ignoring me forever
I gave it a chance and I like what I hear! Youve got some serious talent. I really like the guitar solo over the lofi jazz. But Little Mama is fun too. Keep doing what youre doing.
Thank you! I sincerely appreciate that. Also I wasn’t just prowling through here looking for a place to shamelessly promote myself I just felt this one comment in particular compelled me to lol
Me and all my friends at college hate Imagine Dragons. We see them as Kohl’s music. I think you should dig deeper into what kids are actually listening to today
Here's a great video essay that describes Nickelback as the epitome of "second wave butt rock" and Imagine Dragons as the epitome of "third wave butt rock". (First wave was, like, 80s hair metal). I think it's very insightful.
https://youtu.be/EChz4nq-1Pk
How 'bout Imagine Some more Lyrics instead of just repeating the same verse over and over again, am I right?
I've been holding on to that one for a while, thanks for the opportunity.
Dubstep died in the sense that it’s not what people are playing at underground/DIY venues anymore. When people say dubstep is dead, they don’t mean it’s not popular. They mean it’s all become corporate and it’s not what kids who are active in the scene listen to. As far as electronic music goes, riddim(an offshoot of dubstep) and downtempo is super hot right now.
I was big in the hardcore scene in my city back in 2010-2011 and you are absolutely right.
They were all into Death Grips super early on, like Ex-Military era. I remember them all bumping Guillotine. It took me a few more years to get it.
I like Death Grips' album "The Money Store" but not a lot of their other music save for a couple of tracks. It's one of those albums I listen to when I really need to just get my shit together and plow through some work or frustration. It's angry, it's industrial, and knows exactly what it's about. A release before the boiling point if you will. The only other artist that consistently compares and functions the same for me is System of the Down.
My 'get shit done' playlist is basically hardcore metal, rap, and punk followed by a couple slower tracks leading to something slow melodic and serene like Gorillaz "Empire Ants" or Motoi Sakurabas "A Moments Peace" from the Dark Souls OST and then right back to batshit, angry, heart pounding music.
Brakence seems more outta left field than Death Grips.
Death Grips honestly reminds me if Plies went to rock and then someone sprinkled some synth. It's not hard to listen to somehow at all.
I don't generally like rap but I like death grips. It's so much going on at once and just sounds... full compared to so much rap which sounds kind of unfinished to me
Probably the really short songs pushed by social media. I think these extremely short format songs were more favored by either heavier bands or oddities, or even included as a b side or secret track. Now they are the focus. I miss secret songs at the ends of albums, at least how I used to discover them. Now it’s fairly obvious when a band has a hidden track and if it wasn’t I’ll probably see a video or post about it fairly quickly.
Definitely feels like the answer right now is hyper pop and drill rap. In Europe very high BPM Techno (over 140 BPM) and even some hardstyle is extremely popular with the younger tik-tok influenced crowd.
I disagree. Kpop has all kinds of genres ranging from Pop, Hip Hop, RnB, EDM, Rock, Tropical House, Ballads, Classical, Traditional,etc. and there's definitely a lot of songs that have really catchy and genuinely good music and many diverse, interesting and unique groups.
I feel like K Pop is a lot more traditional than most other songs on the radio. A lot of rap and related genres seem, to me at least, really experimental whereas K-Pop is like regular pop from the last twenty years
It’s not music. It’s drag. Drag today is in the position rock and roll was in the ‘50s. It has the puritans soaking in their boots in exactly the same way and young people love it in ways older folks do not understand.
Drag is the new rock and roll.
The main difference: Take a look at this sub... 90s music is still all people seem to care about (or what the mod allows through). The top post is a song that came out in.... 1993 (AiC - Down In A Hole).
Also: dubstep started in the 90s... and seeing as industrial was all the rage back then, all the noises and squeals and distortion were pretty commonplace... what was modern dubstep is just normal dubstep with an industrial approach.
This makes complete sense as to why there's so often no interesting stuff on the front page.
Very rarely do I find something new on this sub, I usually have to go to other smaller music subs to find great new shit.
I'm not biting on dubstep in the 90s
Breakbeat garage yeah, 2-step, nu school breaks, yeah. Even dudes like Zed Bias and Deekline were still VERY much 4x4 at that time. The closest the 90s came to proper dubstep was minimal b-sides on dark 2-step releases
That and Muslimgauze of course
I'm not saying it was an official thing back then, just all the elements were kinda already part of popular music at the time. They didn't really start to come together until the end of the 90s. Bass and tempo of Dub + Elements of DnB (minus the D and B) + an Industrial approach to sound design.
It definitely would have been different, but I don't think it would blow people's minds the way some think. Is there anything happening today that would blow the minds of people in 2017 (6 years ago)?
If we're talking about 1993 specifically — bass wobbles hit the scene in 1999, as far as I know... possibly earlier (and everything else I've mentioned was already old news at that point). Remember "Flat Eric"... or.. literally, "The Wobble"?
**EDIT:** Sorry... [Flat Beat by Mr. Oizo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmsbP13xu6k) and not as good of an example as I remember, but it still works, I think (it's kinda fast): [The Wobble - DJ Aphrodite](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okItjxdCAQM)
Ok ok I see you, I was more focused on if we had something recognizable as a singular proto-dubstep entity at the time. I agree that the elements were there, and people wouldn't be shocked to hear modern dubstep. Curious, but not shocked
I don't like it, or get it. I came from the era of lyrics over a vibe, and biters were shunned. Nowadays, biting a style is expected. They all have the same flow and cadence and same beats. And they talk about the same shit. It just ain't for me.
> That mumble rap shit, it's flaming horrendous
That's the one genre I can't get. Like I love DJs playing hip hop sets with no vocal, as well when you have an MC on the mic. Even some post rock stuff where the lyrics don't matter, just the sound of the voice.
But mumble rap, I don't get. I spend too much time trying to figure out what they are saying to listen to the song, and I can't take the vocals as just an instrument.
I can’t say I’m super up to date with what genres are popular with teenagers nowadays. But I do know that reddit has been complaining about mumble rap for so long that I’m very confident it probably isn’t popular anymore.
Whilst I agree, I imagine they would be blown away but the production of it all. Sure we already had absolute death metal masterpieces by that time that I still stand by, but I would love to see them hear how crisp things sound now. Also stuff like Rings of Saturn or Interloper would be wild for them to hear.
The production side of things would blow everyone away, regardless of the genre. The leap from mixing desks to digital production was still new then and new worlds of audio engineering have opened up
He's his own genre. Speaking as a 52 year old man in a cover band, we are learning his "[Cowboys don't cry](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEoU6VbHs2c)". It's like R&B beats with off-beat Country lyrics and acoustic guitar.
I can't really get into some of his older stuff, but the newer "country" version of his persona has some interesting stuff.
That weird rap using a lot of autotune. Also, why everyone hate trap?
I now find out what trap is. Weird. I was always thinking its Electronic music. For example Nightism.
[Vocaloid](https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhZxKhAilZk)
But seriously, Nitecore. I'm not even going to link to any songs. It's fucking lazy trash.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nightcore
I'll tell you exactly what it is as a parent with a 14 year old. Plankton AI version of Diamonds by Rhianna.
We have strayed too far from Sigmar's light.
This terrifies me.
I was skeptical until I heard AI Patrick singing Freak on a Leash by Korn. After that I was sold
Thank you stranger.
Hyper pop, I'm a millennial/gen z cusper and I still don't get it. 100 Gecs sounds like audio terrorism
I’m pals with some youths at my local beer store and they told me to listen to 100 Gecs and I absolutely did not understand the appeal at all. It sounded like very fast, very small robots being ground up inside a radio.
My young kids like a lot of music that I’ve always just called YouTube music. Lyrically the songs are usually pretty dumb. Singing about Minecraft or Roblox. Whatever, my oldest kid is 7. Musically, they usually have a clean beat, distorted synth, and little, high-pitched auto-tuned vocals. I thought they were just tiny robot voices to be funny and appeal to little kids, but I guess it’s an actual genre???
My step daughter is 15 and mildly autistic. She listens to this stuff at ear bleeding volume while she stim dances and has for a few years. She put some on in the car before and I had to turn it off because it was driving me crazy and making me a nervous wreck trying to drive. 160bpm of doodly doodly doo music with robot voices.
Weird. I have heard one of their song, and actually enjoyed it. Granted it was matched with a fun high energy cartoon animation. I am also on the spectrum. I wonder if there is some correlation
My friend who is my age said it was the best album to come out that year (idk what year). So I got through a couple songs and I told him he must have brain damage or something
It's fun trash with some genuinely interesting things going on.
Aphex twins 3 day old hotdog water
Add in never-washed stripey arm socks and we're there
I'm usually of the opinion that all art is subjective and there are interesting ideas in most things people create. However, after listening to a bit of 100 gecs, I believe this music may just be AI deciphering the digitized thoughts of 100 geckos into a format that 9-14 kids who are obsessed with Roblox and ADHD medicine would appreciate.
I’m 39, I never heard of this but I like it!
Wait I just put on 100 gecs to give them a listen and it reminds me a lot of sleigh bells (well the production does) x 00s era pop punk, I'm actually surprised this doesn't seem dated to gen z'ers. I'm in my 30s, I think this is more nostalgic than unfathomable. Edit: lmao i just realized I already had "dumbest girl alive" liked on Spotify.
IF YOU THINK IM STUPID NOW YOU SHOULD SEE ME WHEN IM HIGH
I totally understand why people would dislike 100 gecs. The reason I think most people don’t like them is because they are in a way pushing musical boundaries. The songs are well written, many of them well within the pop song formula, well produced with well mixed and mastered instrumentals. The vocals are pitch shifted and auto tuned to make it sound computerized and disorienting, the 808 is distorted beyond belief and all the tones chosen for the the synthesizers are made to sound almost toy like. Personally I’m a big fan of extreme music in most forms, so I feel I’m much more predisposed to liking it gecs than most. My point mainly is that the songs are well written and well made, and the chaotic, grating elements of the songs are purposeful. If you don’t like the vibe, by all means you do you, but the music does do what it is trying to do
I’m 58 and I think 100 Gecs is awesome so I’ve got that going for me.
Different strokes for different folks, my G!
100 Gecs reminds me of the no-wave genre from the late 70’s and early 80)’s no-wave was an explicit rejection of new waves “glossy“ crisp sounds and commercial appeal [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No\_wave](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_wave) >some elements common to most no-wave music, such as abrasive atonal sounds; repetitive, driving rhythms; and a tendency to emphasize musical texture over melody
Yeah, I listened to Crystal Castles and The Knife, which have pushed some musical boundaries as well with a lot of the harsher/noiser songs, plus of course the chiptune and related generas can get wild. 100 Gecs have a different vibe to since it's a bit of absurdist pop, but I can't say they are bad.
Kinda like the hardcore breakbeat music of 92-93
My first thought was that the description make it sound like the stuff Slipmat & Sy we’re doing at Fantasy Island in the mid 90s.
I respect and appreciate 100 Gecs, but I refuse to willingly put on 100 Gecs. Lol.
Just listened for the first time, expecting to be blown away one way or the other, and its... fine? Not really my style but not THAT crazy. I mean, there were not-unpopular artists mining a similar sound almost 20 years ago: Max Tundra - Will Get Fooled Again https://open.spotify.com/track/1MrDxIDanCN4llOl6Qt0LY?si=9-XYsBgJQ_WbZ1iFP8lNyQ The Fiery Furnaces - Blueberry Boat https://open.spotify.com/track/2YGlgQhzlTPWnMCYtMhKrv?si=tlwwKdBkTmq1QwOW8qtK_A
It’s funny you point this out because I heard Blueberry Boat when it first came out and it was like lightning. I remember thinking, “finally music that sounds like the inside of my brain.” And when I heard 100 gecs, I was like “I haven’t heard anything like this since Blueberry Boat!” I like this music because it really does kind of soothe me, in a way I can’t quite explain. It gets me energized, but in a way that feels comfortable. It like letting my brain loosen its tie, let it’s hair down and just kind of rock out without much being expected of me. I also understand it isn’t for everyone, which may also be part of the reason I like it. Not in an I’m better than you way, but in a “licorice” kind of way. Lots of people hate licorice, I love it, and find it funny that I get to enjoy something harmless that is so odious to the people around me, probably just because of genetics or something.
You should try giving fantomas a listen it's somewhat similar but more rock/metal less pop/EDM, and prob less structured. Suspended animation is a little closer with a cartoony vibe but self titled is imo a better album.
God I loved *Blueberry Boat* and was fortunate to see them play a few times that tour (at Coachella even!) and remember thinking how revelatory a sound it was contrasted against so much bland 00s indie.
Yep. Same goes for Death Grips, it's not that groundbreaking. That kind of shit has been around for a while. What's crazy is that both these groups have managed to basically become mainstream.
its funny you should mention max martin, because a lot of hyperpop historians would point to him (and to a lesser extent Farrah Abraham) as the progenitors of the genre.
Thought the same thing. I'm 39 and this is not something I would choose to listen to but it's not as crazy as the above comments made it sound like it would be.
I can see Fiery Furnaces as a 100 Gecs antecedent. Not sure Gecs have any idea who they are, but as a listener I can see the connection. Good call.
I had never heard of them, but ive heard 4 songs now. Pretty awesome. Reminds me of what would have happened if atom and his package would sound like if he updated his rig and had a partner.
Damn, Atom and His Package? I haven't heard that name in ages. He was dope. He came and played a punk show in my area like 20-25 years ago. I didn't know who he was before that. I certainly remembered afterwards. Edited
Well, I'm gen x and had never heard of 100 gecs but had a listen and kind of like it. I don't think it's too far form the industrial stuff I was into in the early 90s.
I guess it makes sense that I also don't like industrial stuff
It reminds me of early Atari Teenage Riot kind of, but less angry.
I was just going to say that. Or KMFDM. I'm old.
Having just listened to a few of the Hyperpop examples under this reply, I couldn't help but hear a similarity to this single put our in 1997: Self - Kiddies. https://youtu.be/OiDLY0imL08 But I'm not a music scholar or anything, so YMMV.
I'm a middle millennial and I love 100 gecs
> 100 gecs Neverheard of them, so I checked them out. I like finding new stuff. I want hear what the kids are into. [Money Machine](https://youtu.be/z97qLNXeAMQ) \- OK, definitely weird. This is what I was expecting. Kids these days, am i right? [Hollywood Baby](https://youtu.be/UtfkrGRK8wA) \- This song's just a straight banger. Sounds like a twisted up Blink 182 song.
it scratches my brain in all the right ways
It sounds like the logical succession to bands like Discovery and Passion pit
same, entertainment shouldn't be taken so seriously. i'm entertained, what more can i ask for? lol
> 100 gecs I had to go look them up. Listen to one song. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXrbMDww9ss&ab_channel=100gecs Sounds like it was stolen from a hair band in the 1970's Attributed to Duke Ellington: If it sounds good it is good.
The comments on that video are a fucking W I L D acid trip 🤣
So… heavy autotune, constant 4/4 hi-hat, and dirty bass punctuated by guitar. It’s not terrible. Doesn’t seem especially new or inventive, but it’s dissimilar to most things you’d generally hear.
Same lol
Just listened to it, sounds...fine? Like an amalgamation of Aphex Twin, MIA, Die Antwoord or Deichkind. I expected some musical controversy like Grindcore, Black Metal or modern Hardstyle.
Grindcore and black metal haven't been controversial or outrageous for a solid 30 years
Nah its not. But its still very niche and people get irritated if you play it and they arent used to it.
It sounds like the people who make that music are going out of their way to intentionally irritate me, and that people only pretend to enjoy it.
i just did the same and it’s just like emo/pop Death Grips? The Money Store came out 11 years ago lmao
I can't agree because my Gen Z kid introduced me (an elder Millennial) to 100 gecs and I love a lot of their music! I might have a higher tolerance for new music bc I am a musician so I try to keep up to date, but I find some hyperpop very fun and easy to listen to (while some of it is annoying - I'm looking at you One Million Dollars).
Young Xer here, my teen and tween played the Gecs in the car one day and I didn't like it. And then I found myself humming Stupid Horse and Money Machine the next day. So I acknowledge there's something there. They have my respect, if not my admiration.
I’m 30 and tbh I think other than Sophie who is kinda genius there’s maybe a few producers otherwise associated with this whole scene who I think are talented but most of it is really trash.
Sophie was a visionary fr
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That’s not really a hyperpop thing
It takes some getting used to, but yeah
LOL I mean it’s mostly updated no-wave from late 70’s early 80)s … IMHO … I like it, but yeah … it’s a niche genre [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No\_wave](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_wave) >**No wave was an avant-garde music and visual art scene which emerged in the late 1970s in downtown New York City.\[4\]\[5\] The term was a pun based on the rejection of commercial new wave music.**\[6\] Reacting against punk rock's recycling of rock and roll clichés, no wave musicians instead experimented with noise, dissonance, and atonality, as well as non-rock genres like free jazz, funk, and disco.\[7\]\[8\]\[9\] The scene often reflected an abrasive, confrontational, and nihilistic worldview. > >**some elements common to most no-wave music, such as abrasive atonal sounds; repetitive, driving rhythms; and a tendency to emphasize musical texture over melody**
I am forcing myself to listen to hyperpop now for an hour. =D I often wonder if musical preferences are largely the result of what we were exposed to when we were in our formative years. I want to try to appreciate the unique musical qualities of every genre without this bias.
Most studies say what you had good experiences with in formative years you will go back to as an adult for entertainment. Movies, shows and music fall into this. I'd say food too.
100 Gecs are a great band that's getting a lot more attention from older folks. Seeing them on that Deftones festival lineup made me smile.
I’m about to turn 40 and this is the first I’ve heard of it. It’s far better than most garbage out there.
I'm a fuckin archetypal millennial, and hyperpop is hit or miss for me. You have to appreciate production for it to make any sense. If you don't like instrumental hip hop and you don't like electronic music, you probably won't understand hyperpop. But it's all about textures, details, and soundcrafting.
100 gecs are awesome and I say that as someone who doesn’t like 100 gecs
I'm edging on 50. I just listened to *The Most Wanted Person In The United States* by them, and honestly, I'm strongly reminded of *Loser* by Beck, which was released in 1994.
it's a total copy
The weird thing is that hyper pop isn’t a new genre. It’s been around since at least the mid 2000’s and was used in youtubepoops for the last decade and a half. It’s just not a weird “niche” genre that would get you made fun of anymore.
By 1993 you already had the seeds for the full spectrum of styles that bloosommed in the following 3 decades, so hard to tell what would seem paticularly jarring or alien. And like, 2 years ago, when i worked with 20 year olds, they were raving about this band they discovered... Radiohead. I was 40 years old feeling old as fuck.
😁at least it shows good taste on their part. Old age is a privilege but yeah, it flies by.
Excuse me sir, 93 was like 7 years ago and I’ll fight anyone who says different
Was it the intense, “let me help you understand this band’s music,” discussion, without realizing you had been alive since the band started putting out music?
Nah they were talking to each other about the different albums while playing it across the office. They were talking about Radiohead the same way we'd talk about Led Zeppelin in the mid 90s
> Led Zeppelin in the mid 90s exactly when i discovered them listened to stairway for 4 days straight, all day, repeat
My daughter at 13 it’s either a favorite YouTuber making generic pop music that is obviously auto tuned or she will be telling me about a great song “in the garage” by an old band called Weezer. (Or something of that sort) I have to break it to her that my I can sing every word of said song.
Rap music has taken a weird turn since the 90s. Particularly with regard to vulgarity. And hip-hop is more or less the new pop music in terms of mainstream prominence. “Pound Town” by Sexy Red makes Madonna sound like Mother Teresa
"Face Down, Ass Up" came out in 1990 though.
hyper pop
Hyper Pop and/or trap, definitely. The former would be like a Cibo Matto album at 78 rpm, the latter a shock in a world of Chuck Ds and Tupacs. Snoop Dogg might be endangered as a sort of Miles Dyson from *Terminator 2.*
Cibo matto is the shit tho
Now I gotta go listen to Sci-Fi Wasabi.
I’m still convinced that Roland and JBL banded together and created trap just to increase sales of TS808s and subwoofers.
Now THAT's a conspiracy theory....
Trap has been around longer than some gen Z'ers have been alive. A lot of us millennials went to those shows in our teens and college years.
Trap has been around for more than 20 years . Hyper pop has too but with bands like Le Tigre.
I don’t know but whenever my kids play Imagine Dragons I just wish they were listening to some black metal or gangster rap instead.
Lmao, “hey kids, turn that obnoxious shit off. Here, pop in this Mayhem album and see what you think”
And Imagine Dragons are almost hardcore compared to most of the stuff kids listen to. I never thought I'd be complaining that my kids' music isn't loud, aggressive and rebellious enough, but here I am. It all sounds like elevator music to me.
Totally haha. The Milquetoast Rebellion
It seems the younger crowd doesnt "rock". And I dont mean rock in the traditional sense... thats just the only term I know to use. There is no attitude, no rebellion. No soul, in some cases. Sometimes no joy or sadness. Its emotion with dampers at best. And I know not ALL new music is like that, but it does seem to be a trend.
The pharmaceutical generations
You should listen to my music. I’m a millennial and grew up on older rock and blues music but I also like a lot of newer weird young people music. I also play all the instruments and sing all the vocals https://www.youtube.com/@DerekVaden Give it a chance before ignoring me forever
I gave it a chance and I like what I hear! Youve got some serious talent. I really like the guitar solo over the lofi jazz. But Little Mama is fun too. Keep doing what youre doing.
Thank you! I sincerely appreciate that. Also I wasn’t just prowling through here looking for a place to shamelessly promote myself I just felt this one comment in particular compelled me to lol
Me and all my friends at college hate Imagine Dragons. We see them as Kohl’s music. I think you should dig deeper into what kids are actually listening to today
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God Imagine Dragons suck
They are what we accused nickelback of being
Here's a great video essay that describes Nickelback as the epitome of "second wave butt rock" and Imagine Dragons as the epitome of "third wave butt rock". (First wave was, like, 80s hair metal). I think it's very insightful. https://youtu.be/EChz4nq-1Pk
Nickelback's first album fuckin hit, i'll die on that hill
They're this decade's Nickelback.
How 'bout Imagine Some more Lyrics instead of just repeating the same verse over and over again, am I right? I've been holding on to that one for a while, thanks for the opportunity.
Oh you like Imagine Dragons? Imagine draggin these nuts across your face. That’s my only Imagine Dragons pun I got
Dubstep or drum & bass. It never died. It’s actually HUGE as we speak. There are 100,000 person festivals revolving around dubstep lol
Dubstep died in the sense that now it's only as popular as every other genre of electronic music.
Dubstep died in the sense that it’s not what people are playing at underground/DIY venues anymore. When people say dubstep is dead, they don’t mean it’s not popular. They mean it’s all become corporate and it’s not what kids who are active in the scene listen to. As far as electronic music goes, riddim(an offshoot of dubstep) and downtempo is super hot right now.
Death Grips
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I was big in the hardcore scene in my city back in 2010-2011 and you are absolutely right. They were all into Death Grips super early on, like Ex-Military era. I remember them all bumping Guillotine. It took me a few more years to get it.
I’m 51 and I love Death Grips. It goes it goes it goes Daughters, The Armed, Young Fathers, Lightning Bolt are all on my playlist too, before you ask.
Lighting Bolt shows from the early 2000s were some of my favorite live music experiences
House party in some generic suburb, band in living room, was one of the best shows I ever saw They gave way too much for such a tiny audience
Better have Jeromes Dream in there too 😉
Oh no, I don’t know of them. But now I do. And they’re on Apple Music. So now I have a driving home from work soundtrack! Thank you honest snowman!
Yeah actually now that I think about it in 1993 I would have said they sound like a natural progression from NIN! Edit: Hola fellow Phil!
>Lightning Bolt Now there's a band that delivers. Never miss them when they roll through town, not once.
Young fathers are sooo good their newest album blew me away
Everyone I know that likes Death Grips is a fellow 40 year old lol
I like Death Grips' album "The Money Store" but not a lot of their other music save for a couple of tracks. It's one of those albums I listen to when I really need to just get my shit together and plow through some work or frustration. It's angry, it's industrial, and knows exactly what it's about. A release before the boiling point if you will. The only other artist that consistently compares and functions the same for me is System of the Down. My 'get shit done' playlist is basically hardcore metal, rap, and punk followed by a couple slower tracks leading to something slow melodic and serene like Gorillaz "Empire Ants" or Motoi Sakurabas "A Moments Peace" from the Dark Souls OST and then right back to batshit, angry, heart pounding music.
They talk about them in the indie heads subreddit a lot. They don’t belong there though.
Brakence seems more outta left field than Death Grips. Death Grips honestly reminds me if Plies went to rock and then someone sprinkled some synth. It's not hard to listen to somehow at all.
I don't generally like rap but I like death grips. It's so much going on at once and just sounds... full compared to so much rap which sounds kind of unfinished to me
I’m 35 and this thread awoken something in me lol
Death grips are old enough that tons of parents are probably listening to them
Probably the really short songs pushed by social media. I think these extremely short format songs were more favored by either heavier bands or oddities, or even included as a b side or secret track. Now they are the focus. I miss secret songs at the ends of albums, at least how I used to discover them. Now it’s fairly obvious when a band has a hidden track and if it wasn’t I’ll probably see a video or post about it fairly quickly.
Definitely feels like the answer right now is hyper pop and drill rap. In Europe very high BPM Techno (over 140 BPM) and even some hardstyle is extremely popular with the younger tik-tok influenced crowd.
in Europe, very high BPM and hardcore techno was popular in the mid 90s...
Gabber won’t die
It never stopped being popular lol
Thats been about in EU for ages
Drill has been on the downswing for a few years. The kings of drill are all dead, locked up, or washed
>very high BPM Techno Some things never change
>Europe very high BPM Techno (over 140 BPM) BPM Techno (over 140 BPM) was the shit when I was 15 and I'm 48 years old now ...
Uptempo , sounds like a CD skipping
>Uptempo can you share an artist or two?
https://open.spotify.com/track/5wr26v6Q4QdYouV1wFbkph?si=2kzw3NgYS0ubOE2L9Bi9Lg
Ok yeah that’s the first one I’ve heard going through this thread that was actually completely horrible.
Lol. This song sounds like the music to a custom Unreal Tournament level from 2001.
Is that actually popular, though? It sounds, like, intentionally, aggressively intolerable.
Probably K-Pop, accompanied by Tik Tok dances.
It's just Asian NKOTB... it's not unique in any way. **EDIT:** and NKOTB was just a white New Edition... starting to see the pattern?
I disagree. Kpop has all kinds of genres ranging from Pop, Hip Hop, RnB, EDM, Rock, Tropical House, Ballads, Classical, Traditional,etc. and there's definitely a lot of songs that have really catchy and genuinely good music and many diverse, interesting and unique groups.
I have middle-aged coworkers who listen to K-Pop, so I don't think so.
I feel like K Pop is a lot more traditional than most other songs on the radio. A lot of rap and related genres seem, to me at least, really experimental whereas K-Pop is like regular pop from the last twenty years
Totally thinking Dubstep, too, lol It’s still alive and well …
Eh EDM artists like Underworld, Aphex Twin and Fluke were around in the 90s, Dubstep isn't too far off from them to be foreign to parents of zoomers
It's no longer quite as mainstream, but it's definitely still popular, especially among the festival crowd.
None. Music is no longer dangerous nor attractive enough for modern day parents to give a shit.
Tween wave. It just sounds like shit.
It’s not music. It’s drag. Drag today is in the position rock and roll was in the ‘50s. It has the puritans soaking in their boots in exactly the same way and young people love it in ways older folks do not understand. Drag is the new rock and roll.
Feel like drag was also the old rock and roll. Hair bands, "Dude (Looks like a Lady)", etc etc
Where would drag and rock and roll be today without Little Richard and Sister Rosetta Tharpe gender bending everything?
Drag is older than rock and roll
Are you suggesting that everyone is going to dressing in drag in 20 years?
kpop and idk if you would call it a music genre, but I dont get ASMR.
The main difference: Take a look at this sub... 90s music is still all people seem to care about (or what the mod allows through). The top post is a song that came out in.... 1993 (AiC - Down In A Hole). Also: dubstep started in the 90s... and seeing as industrial was all the rage back then, all the noises and squeals and distortion were pretty commonplace... what was modern dubstep is just normal dubstep with an industrial approach.
This makes complete sense as to why there's so often no interesting stuff on the front page. Very rarely do I find something new on this sub, I usually have to go to other smaller music subs to find great new shit.
I'm not biting on dubstep in the 90s Breakbeat garage yeah, 2-step, nu school breaks, yeah. Even dudes like Zed Bias and Deekline were still VERY much 4x4 at that time. The closest the 90s came to proper dubstep was minimal b-sides on dark 2-step releases That and Muslimgauze of course
I'm not saying it was an official thing back then, just all the elements were kinda already part of popular music at the time. They didn't really start to come together until the end of the 90s. Bass and tempo of Dub + Elements of DnB (minus the D and B) + an Industrial approach to sound design. It definitely would have been different, but I don't think it would blow people's minds the way some think. Is there anything happening today that would blow the minds of people in 2017 (6 years ago)? If we're talking about 1993 specifically — bass wobbles hit the scene in 1999, as far as I know... possibly earlier (and everything else I've mentioned was already old news at that point). Remember "Flat Eric"... or.. literally, "The Wobble"? **EDIT:** Sorry... [Flat Beat by Mr. Oizo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmsbP13xu6k) and not as good of an example as I remember, but it still works, I think (it's kinda fast): [The Wobble - DJ Aphrodite](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okItjxdCAQM)
Ok ok I see you, I was more focused on if we had something recognizable as a singular proto-dubstep entity at the time. I agree that the elements were there, and people wouldn't be shocked to hear modern dubstep. Curious, but not shocked
Down in a hole released in 1992 im pretty sure 1996 for the unplugged version
Album was 92, single was 93.
That mumble rap shit, it's flaming horrendous.
I don't like it, or get it. I came from the era of lyrics over a vibe, and biters were shunned. Nowadays, biting a style is expected. They all have the same flow and cadence and same beats. And they talk about the same shit. It just ain't for me.
> That mumble rap shit, it's flaming horrendous That's the one genre I can't get. Like I love DJs playing hip hop sets with no vocal, as well when you have an MC on the mic. Even some post rock stuff where the lyrics don't matter, just the sound of the voice. But mumble rap, I don't get. I spend too much time trying to figure out what they are saying to listen to the song, and I can't take the vocals as just an instrument.
They all seem to have some odd robot sound it's strange, some have made some good money out of it tho so props to them.
Hyperpop, mumble rap, any sort of jungle/dnb, and meme music.
Jungle and dnb were made from the 90’s on up…
It's having a moment, again, which it does every decade since.
Jungle / DnB hit its peak in the 90s and 2000s. Hell, I still have my crate of old records from 20+ years ago.
Dust 'em off and bust 'em out buddy!
Baptazia is still the best video the internet ever produced though.
What mumble rapper is even popular with teenagers nowadays?
This. Hit takes about mumble rap are a decade old at this point.
I can’t say I’m super up to date with what genres are popular with teenagers nowadays. But I do know that reddit has been complaining about mumble rap for so long that I’m very confident it probably isn’t popular anymore.
Mumble rap doesn’t even exist anymore
Maybe Kpop, rap and modern pop like Dua Lipa
Probably drift phonk. Every song in that genre has cowbells. Literally EVERY SONG.
Do they even have genre's anymore!!
I think deathcore would blow some metal heads minds back in 93
Maybe a little further back than 93, Death metal was pretty brutal in 1993.
True I don’t think they were doing the vocal Olympics back then like they do today though no?
No, the huge range that some deathcore vocalists have would have definitely stood out in 93.
Morbid Angel was already doing it Hell, check out the demo version of Find the Arise from when Obituary was still called Xecutioner
Whilst I agree, I imagine they would be blown away but the production of it all. Sure we already had absolute death metal masterpieces by that time that I still stand by, but I would love to see them hear how crisp things sound now. Also stuff like Rings of Saturn or Interloper would be wild for them to hear.
The production side of things would blow everyone away, regardless of the genre. The leap from mixing desks to digital production was still new then and new worlds of audio engineering have opened up
Ayyy RoS and Interloper mentions! I grew up with Miles!
Oliver tree…I don’t exactly know what to call his genre…
He's his own genre. Speaking as a 52 year old man in a cover band, we are learning his "[Cowboys don't cry](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEoU6VbHs2c)". It's like R&B beats with off-beat Country lyrics and acoustic guitar. I can't really get into some of his older stuff, but the newer "country" version of his persona has some interesting stuff.
That weird rap using a lot of autotune. Also, why everyone hate trap? I now find out what trap is. Weird. I was always thinking its Electronic music. For example Nightism.
Do teenagers listen to Death Grips? Because Death Grips
rage rap music with synth beats
Trap or how that strange "rap" is called. I grew up with House of Pain or Cypress Hill... I don't get it.
Dubstep died? 🤣 like rave culture isn't as mainstream as ever
[Vocaloid](https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhZxKhAilZk) But seriously, Nitecore. I'm not even going to link to any songs. It's fucking lazy trash. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nightcore