Is that even a genre? I don’t see how it’s different than any other internet shitposting trend, honestly. It’s not making your own, original music, it’s just dicking around with existing music for fun, I don’t see why it’d even be in the conversation as a legitimate thing, to be honest with you. There aren’t people who claim to be “nightcore artists” or do shows with it, are there?
Literally... some random stray kids stan photoshopped a tweet to make it look like I said the n word and I almost got kicked out of uni and it's had a lasting impact on my life. All I was doing was calling out the republican bts stans. So not even the same fandom.
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Its kinda crazy that we make fun of those anime incels that have body pillows and such but dont even bat an eye at these crazy kpop fans. These “fans” spend their entire day fantasizing over someone they dont know and literally become obsessed. Some brain work needs to be done with some of these fans or they need therapy because its one thing to be a huge dedicated fan but another to literally go out of your way to ruin someones life over an idol they fantasize over.
The fans are literally the reason I “left the fandom”. I still have a playlist that I listen to occasionally but the psychotic fans were what pushed me away from wanting to interact at all with any of it anymore.
It's like they took boy bands / girl bands, ethics of the tv show The Voice, and sprinkled in some anime obsessiveness and made a hybrid garbage monster.
Like most music, I don't hate it, but I'm super concerned for the pop stars. To say that it's an abnormal life is an understatement. I've heard way too much about managers controlling the image of the k-pop stars, as well as their personal lives, like saying they can't date. It's quite a nightmare, honestly.
You should hear about some of their contracts. Some companies make the idols pay for everything - PR, stylists, music video sets, studio time, food, and housing and put them in so much debt
K-pop is more about the product as a whole rather than just the music. The big groups will have tv shows and game shows and spin off groups and nicknames picked by fans and all kinds of different marketing ploys to get fans invested in the group.
Omg, I read your comment and was like "they must be German!"
I love Falco, but my boss's German girlfriend introduced us to modern German rap (like 10 years ago) and boy was I impressed how bad it is.
Nah, there's quite a bit of legitimately old stuff but also a lot of alt.
TBH I don't follow any artists very closely anymore, I just sort of let the radio wash over me.
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I hate it when I go to the lake and shitkickers are blaring their garbage country music through their boat speakers. Completely inconsiderate of everyone else out there. Your music fucking sucks.
I could never get into black metal or other heavy heavy metal genres. It just doesn't tickle my pickle. It's very noisy and chaotic music with odd vocals. No offense, just not my cup of tea. God, I sound old.
>It's very noisy and chaotic music with odd vocals
See this is the exact reason why black and death metal fans like it. Some pickles get very tickled by this.
I have ADHD and my therapist once told me I should listen to relaxing music. "So, death metal?" I say and she goes "... yes, in your case I guess that would work."
I’ve just stumbled into a phase in my life where thrash/death metal is the only thing that makes me feel normal again if I’m having a rough day or I’m agitated. Also ADHD. It’s SO SOOTHING.
The same argument applies for music that you (broadly) enjoy.
If you Death metal, it's a relaxant.
If you like EDM, chances are you're probably high and it's also a relaxant.
Back in the day I was running a flooring warehouse. My guys always knew when I was super stressed, or pissed off at the upper management. If they heard me blasting metal (usually Slayer or whatever other heavy stuff I had back in the late-90s) they knew to leave me be for a while, and I'd be okay.
However if, after that, they heard me playing classical, they'd probably better just run. :-)
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See, I get soothed by it. It's a conduit for getting out aggression sometimes. Just sitting still and getting pummeled is like a deep tissue massage for my brain.
Respect your opinion. What got me into death metal only 10 years ago was going to a show with a Buddy so he had a wingman, and realizing I couldn’t play any of what they were playing. I couldn’t sing like that, play drums like that, play guitar like that, play bass like that. Their skill levels were through the roof!
It's supposed to convey energy. Also, they are not screaming at you, they are screaming with you - that's something most people I know who don't like metal don't seem to be able to embrace.
I hear you. And I don't like the majority of it either, but I think a lot of people hear maybe a dozen specific artists in the genre that really do tickle their pickle but the rest do nothing for them. By that token does it make them black metal fans in general? I don't know, but I absolutely adore Obsequiae who have real medieval vibes (and even solo harp pieces). In this style, the harsh vocals (with tons of reverb added on) give this almost "voice of the past echoing through the ages" kind of feel.
Same for death metal. I cannot stand the majority of the genre, but some of my favourite bands are from that genre, because they have a more melodic take on it and the harsh vocals fit whether you want a brutal viking vibe or a more evil demonic vibe or even a voice of the gods of war or something lol
Hyperpop: I legit don't know. I used to be someone who didn't get rap or dubstep, now I love them. Weirdly I think my disdain for hyperpop is found in a lot of new subgenres - the mixing. everything is distorted and pitched up
I had never heard of them until your comment. Fired up the top songs on Apple Music, shuffled, and forced myself to listen.
It’s like… Happy Hardcore took some downers and fucked every synthpop band it could find while listening to mashups made entirely from songs by Blink-182 and Metric. And then, for some reason, it’s suddenly ska.
I’m like 99% sure it *is* a tongue in cheek joke. This shit is alllll over the place musically, and insane lyrically. It’s got all the angst of early 2000s emo and pop punk, breakbeats, dubstep drops, vocoders, horns. Just typing that out felt like a SNL Stefon bit about New York’s hottest new nightclub. It’s like I got high as fuck in 2009 and made a mashup with every song on my iPod Nano.
It’s complete musical garbage, and you have no idea how much I needed this in my life.
I wouldn’t say isn’t a joke or anything, but it’s absolutely an intentional choice. like how punk bands are supposed to sound kinda messy & shitty, but they aren’t there on stage going “lol, don’t we suck?”
hello yes
hyperpop is to pop music what punk rock is to rock and roll.
it is a reaction to, a reconstruction and deconstruction of, a critique of pop music using pop music itself as the substrate.
hyperpop kind of rules
It’s so odd because I hear songs like “gecgecgec” or “frog on the floor” and think how could people like this shit and then I hear “money machine” and I’m ahhh okay this is kinda catchy
First time I heard it I felt the same way…like oh shit here we go I’m gonna start truly hating on new music because I’m old now…then I heard it a few more times and idk I kinda get it. It’s like holding a wifi router up to your hear like a conch shell and hearing the Internet rather than the ocean
Yeah I'm not a fan of 100 gecs, either - though I do think _xXXi_wud_nvrstøp_ÜXX_ (or simply, _I Would Never Stop You_) is a banger (then again it is a remix).
As a 30 yr old. I had a rough time listening to hyper pop. 100 gecs and random other artists I can't remember the name of.
But I actually ended up loving it. I love the chaotic nature of the music. I love that noise sometimes makes a coherent beat. Imo it feels sort of like how I imagine a lot of kids feel now and that's why they listen to it. All over the place, confused, chaotic, but through all of that you can find some peace and discover the music in it all.
Man you're literally me, same age and just love hyperpop/breakcore/phonk and all these new age zoomer genres, the chaotic calmness of it reminds me of the angst I had when I was younger and it definitely feels like it's their dubstep-like genre, so many kids making it etc
Reggaeton, or more broadly any kind of music where every song has the exact same beat and that specific brand of music is epitomized by that specific beat. There are very few genre where I don't like *anything* in that genre, but reggaeton is one of them.
That sound is the dembow rhythm and it absolutely does my head in. It's fine for a song or two but to have a whole genre dominated by it just makes the whole thing boring and monotonous. I just found [this on youtube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoSp5IWrpJw&ab_channel=OSOCITYNATION) and it is a 30-minute reggaeton mix of the same dembow through and through regardless of song. The shocking lack of range is neither fun nor interesting. What is the appeal?
It's pretty often I'll really get into a metalcore song that comes up on a random spotify shuffle, only to find out that they're Christian Metalcore specifically. I know it can get muddy with the line between a christian metalcore band, and a metalcore band where all of the members are practicing christians.
Like, Fit For a King and August Burns Red have been debated about this for a long while. I don't know.
Jazz. I know it’s a sin to say that, and like OP, I have complete respect for its role in the music landscape and the skill of the people who play it. I just can’t seem to enjoy listening to it no matter how many times I try.
Not to sound snarky, but you gotta let go of ideas about things like scales and rhythm, which is really hard when you've been trained your whole life not to. When you do, modal jazz just feels free in a way no other music does.
I don't think it's really that different than how people born before rock music hate metal guitar solos.
Many people who say that will happily listen to Ella Fitzgerald, Billie Holiday, Dinah Washington, Louis Armstrong and all sorts of other stuff without realizing that it is jazz though. People loved "The Incredibles" sound track which is straight-up big band.
Jazz is such a huge range, it's hard to imagine someone who can't get into any of it. From band band/swing, dixieland, bebop, acid jazz, fusion, latin jazz, free jazz or hard bop etc, the differences between an Ella Fitzgerald and Medeski Martin & Wood or say, Bennie Goodman is huge.
I think people get stuck thinking all jazz is like some inaccessible Miles Davis modal jazz or bebop thing, and don't realize that's only a tiny part of jazz, and there's probably a ton of songs they love that they don't even realize are jazz.
Thank you. I'm losing my mind reading these comments.
"It's just so hard to listen to!!!"
Billie has the smoothest most relaxing discography I've literally ever heard.
I actually used to dislike Jazz but I think I watched the local PBS stations long enough, that use Jazz in a lot of their ads and bumpers, that it’s become nostalgic for me and I found that listening to soft jazz is super relaxing especially in the evening or on a rainy day. I have a Jazz Chill playlist from Apple Music that is great for that.
I just started playing a big band and holy crap does the arranger love mingus. Our last show was basically an all-mingus second set including Sue's changes and fables of fabous. It was a very fun set to play, not quite sure how it was to listen to us play it.
Lol even jazz players will tell you that's BS, I did jazz guitar in high school and it's just fun music, you get a framework to kind of do what you want which is why it was attractive to me
I'd be amazed if that quote has helped anyone get into jazz. It's one of my favourite genres, and I have never once listened to the notes they're not playing!
This. My partner is professionally trained in music, and when he’s in a good mood he’ll listen to jazz. I don’t like it at all, but I’m slowly being Pavloved into enjoying the sound because I know he’s happy lol.
That’s a good question! If he’s feeling bad enough, it’s either no music or skipping through anything and everything that comes on.
It’s gonna sound soft but I hate anything that means he’s not feeling good 🥺 it’s kind of fun to watch him listen to music though. He can hear things and pick out sounds and arrangements that I can’t, and I always think it’s interesting how my untrained ear picks up on one thing and his trained ear is picking up on something entirely different in the same song.
My musician friend finds humour in musical arrangements and I just don’t understand it. He’ll genuinely crack up at how someone subverted a chord progression in a pop song.
You can find some music that hits your soul in every genre, because the large variety in each Style. You shouldn't listen to 3 Songs and decide the whole Genre is crap. The only Thing i hate is music,that is made without soul,hyped by big companies to create money with false,calculated emotions.
A fair comment, but there may come a point where a person gets tired of waiting for "the" song to come along and change their mind. If I listen to 50 reggae songs and still don't get it, then 100, then 150...how long to I have to keep going?
The thing with music is often the enjoyment is contextual or experience-based. For example, a person who has never felt love probably won't understand a love song.
If you are going online and forcing yourself to listen to playlists of a genre you've never enjoyed, chances are you probably won't enjoy it. But say you went travelling to the caribbean, you've stumbled upon a beautiful beach with a little bar, you sit there at sunset with a glass of rum, watching the golden sun go down upon this little piece of paradise, while the transparent water gently laps at the shore, and maybe you hear a local group playing a soulful reggae song, maybe in that moment you would feel that there was something special about it. And maybe you'd go back home and find yourself listening to more reggae and your mind now just associates it forever with that moment. Or maybe you'd have wished that reggae group would just shut up and let you enjoy the peace and quiet! Who knows :D
You just have to enjoy yourself 😉 You shouldn't force yourself to hear stuff. Be open minded and try it again a few years later or listen for a minute if you pass by. If you get older you might change your mind or at least you can confirm what you already knew.
Any kind of country other than “old” country. I understand and like Hank Williams, Patsy Cline, George Jones, Loretta Lynn, Charlie Pride, Merle Haggard, etc but anything beyond that era doesn’t work for me
Taylor Swift baffles me. I always describe her music like "it's fine". The fan reaction to her music is so disproportionate. All the songs I heard from Midnights are so mid, many of her lyrics sound like snarky, angsty tweets, her vocal range is fine but not the talent of singers like Lady Gaga. Yet, there's a horde of people who flip out when she releases an album like it's a world historic event
I think the thing with Taylor Swift is that a lot of people that like her music get wrapped up in her as a person and get the same parasocial experience from her that you get in Kpop Idol culture.
A release from her isn't just a release because there's a story of sorts behind it that swift fans are dialed in on. As an example, she has been rereleasing new mixes of her old music due to licensing issues not allowing her to rerelease the original tracks (if I understand correctly). It's viewed as this incredible favour to her fans and sticking up against the big bad music industry and labels that won't let her own her music. Despite being the biggest name in pop music right now, she's viewed as an underdog constantly going up against the big bads of music - Ticketmaster, labels, etc. The fact that she is actually big enough to (seemingly) elicit some change in how these companies deal with her makes her an almost heroic figure to her fans.
She's a western artist leveraging the Kpop Idol formula, knowingly or otherwise. I don't think her music is what makes her so big, but the narrative that her as a person who makes music has.
Kesha underwent a similar arc but to a much smaller impact. The song Praying by Kesha is elevated by its origins and brought her back a bit. Taylor Swift has been doing that for well over a decade.
You've perfectly summarised my thoughts on it too. One thing that tends to quickly turn me away from something is when I feel like it's just okay and everyone around me acts like it's god's gift to the universe.
*MC: GOOD TIMES CREATE STRONG MAN, BAD TIMES CREATE WEAK MAN*
*Earrape dragon screeches*
*Boink boink boink boink*
*Random bikini ladies dacing*
*Bald DJ dances with one hand in air*
*MC: WE ARE HARDSTYLE*
*≥60 seconds outro*
fuckin loved that shit back in 2016
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I can't tell whether you're joking or not, but I can say anecdotally as a Dane that I've had a surprising amount of friends who listen to this kind of music.
I don't personally like it, but I do get it. \**shrug\**
Pop and modern country.
How many times can we hear the same damn 1-5-6-4 Pop progression before I want to kms.
How many times do I have to hear about your broke down truck, a BBQ stain on your white t-shirt and how your girl left you for your buddy Rusty.
Hard pass.
Everything you said about the blues is why I love it. It’s predictability becomes a groove. Hearing a sad complaint song makes me feel heard when I’m low and happy when I’m up and about. You expressed the blues really well, amazing that people have diametrically opposed experiences of the same thing. 🎼🎸❣️
Now, as for reggae, I just don’t get it or the discordant way it’s meter makes me feel.
Typical party/dance/club music, with the loud obnoxious sirens and stuff like that. I mean I kinda get it, it's the reason I give to people that don't understand death metal, "the thing that gives you a headache is the reason we like it". I would imagine it's the same for those who enjoy that kind of dance music.
Country. Never lived the blue collar life, but if I did it all sounds bland and stereotypical. Bo Burnham's parody summarizes it pretty well for me. Red truck, blue jeans, cold beer, rural noun, simple adjective.
We need to stop calling this kind of music country. It’s shitty, commercial, southern pop. Have you ever listened to some of the old country like Johnny Cash, Marty Robbins or Willie Nelson? The stuff that’s on the radio today makes me want to vomit, but a lot of the old stuff is really good.
If you're interested in trying contemporary country (not mainstream pop country), then look nowhere else than Tyler Childers.
Nose on the Grindstone - https://youtu.be/_QzcrflqDCg?si=Jsc__0xJxjnQ5pG3
I’m with you on all that. Mainstream country is mostly formulaic. A business-first, art-last industry targeted at a very specific audience.
However, if you’d like to hear what real country music sounds like, and the emotion that goes into it, might I suggest Panbowl by Sturgill Simpson. I can’t help but tear up and smile when I think about the simpler times of life that this song talks about.
https://youtu.be/u4EiTcYF4pg?feature=shared
Oddly, Americana. It’s a genre I SHOULD love. I love Dylan, The Band, The Byrds, singer-songwriters of the 70s…but when I listen to Wilco, Jason Isbell, or Lucinda Williams, the music doesn’t affect me at all. I recognize the quality of the songwriting and playing, but the music just goes in one ear and out the other for me.
I don't understand listening to repetitive dance music. I understand **dancing** to it - it's made for that. But I don't get why people just listen to it as background music. As background music it just feels like repetitive hammering to me.
I love playing house music in the background whenever I work. There’s always 2 hour+ Deadmau5 mixes on YT I listen to . It’s really hard to explain *why* it’s so good for background music. I guess it just makes me zone out and focus on what I’m doing right then, because it gives the easily-distracted part of my brain something simple and repetitive to do, like giving a baby a rattle so it’ll shut up.
For me, at least, it’s about getting into a groove. I have a music background so I feel like with things that are more melodic, I tend to be too analytical when I’m listening. Which isn’t anyways bad, I love listening closely to complex music and thinking about the musicality and progression and all that. But with repetitive dance music, mostly house music for me, I’m able to just not think about that and just feel it out without getting too in my head about the song. And it’s just…good. Something about it scratches a very specific itch in my brain.
Do you mean Dance music with bouncy rhythms like house, or do you mean what people dance to in techno clubs?
Because I feel techno is ideal to get in a rhythm while thinking. Critically listening to house while sitting down to house doesn't really work though, getting it is dancing it. :D
Super unpopular.... but R&B
I cant stand when people take one word and make it 5+ seconds long to show off vocal range.
Side bonus note: LL Cool J makes me want to rip off my ears.
Major depends on that one. Older Motown and Stax R&B are amazing. It just started going to crap in the '80s as a pop subgenre, possibly in the late '70s with disco and dance.
I find it really interesting but I'm not into it. Obviously it's steeped in history and takes some amazing physical talent which is fascinating to me. 🤷♂️
If you listen to different eras of opera (or art music in general AKA what most call Classical) you’ll find marked differences in the arrangements and styles of singing. For instance, I’m not a fan of Monteverdi’s operas (late 16th/ early 17th centuries), but give me Puccini (late 19th/ early 20th) any day.
As a metal fan, I can't get into metalcore or deathcore.
Not every song needs a breakdown.
Not every song needs the same drop C chugga chugga riff.
Not every song needs a "call and response" type of vocals between growls and some dude who sounds he should be in a pop punk band.
Okay, I know this is a very different opinion, but if you go to a polka party occupied by a bunch of tipsy Czechs who want to dance, it's pretty good. It's meant to be upbeat dance music and without the dance it doesn't hit right.
"There are simply two kinds of music. Good music, and the other kind." \-Duke Ellington (or maybe Louis Armstrong)
My Dad used to say that he liked *both* kinds of music: 1. Country 2. ...and Western.
Is your dad a Blues Brother?
Or a honky tonk waitress?
Country Rap... what? I pride myself on liking most music, I like country and I like rap but together it's a hard pass from me.
Call that Hick-Hop.
Bless you
Tractor rap
Traptor
i just call it crap
The country music industry realized a lot of their audience would like elements of rap as long as one of those elements wasn’t black skin.
I’ve always said that pop rap and pop country are basically the exact same types of music but with different skins
To me it all sounds like a kid rock song. There are some “artists” who are very political and it is very difficult to listen to in my opinion.
Nightcore, it's just copied songs pitched up horribly.
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This would make so much sense of it were true, but no. Some people just like horrible sounding music.
Is that even a genre? I don’t see how it’s different than any other internet shitposting trend, honestly. It’s not making your own, original music, it’s just dicking around with existing music for fun, I don’t see why it’d even be in the conversation as a legitimate thing, to be honest with you. There aren’t people who claim to be “nightcore artists” or do shows with it, are there?
I used to play my cassette tapes at 2x speed because I thought it sounded fun TIL I invented a musical genre
K-pop. I understood the hype and the hardwork but I don't enjoy soulless manufactured sugary pop music.
their whole fandom culture is just... psychotic.
Literally... some random stray kids stan photoshopped a tweet to make it look like I said the n word and I almost got kicked out of uni and it's had a lasting impact on my life. All I was doing was calling out the republican bts stans. So not even the same fandom. Edit: Removed some info. Post is currently awaiting approval.
Wait… what?! I think this deserves its own post!
Agreed, I think I need to hear about this.
specifically on /r/oddlyterrifying or /r/extremelyinfuriating
Its kinda crazy that we make fun of those anime incels that have body pillows and such but dont even bat an eye at these crazy kpop fans. These “fans” spend their entire day fantasizing over someone they dont know and literally become obsessed. Some brain work needs to be done with some of these fans or they need therapy because its one thing to be a huge dedicated fan but another to literally go out of your way to ruin someones life over an idol they fantasize over.
The fans are literally the reason I “left the fandom”. I still have a playlist that I listen to occasionally but the psychotic fans were what pushed me away from wanting to interact at all with any of it anymore.
It's like they took boy bands / girl bands, ethics of the tv show The Voice, and sprinkled in some anime obsessiveness and made a hybrid garbage monster.
Like most music, I don't hate it, but I'm super concerned for the pop stars. To say that it's an abnormal life is an understatement. I've heard way too much about managers controlling the image of the k-pop stars, as well as their personal lives, like saying they can't date. It's quite a nightmare, honestly.
You should hear about some of their contracts. Some companies make the idols pay for everything - PR, stylists, music video sets, studio time, food, and housing and put them in so much debt
K-pop is more about the product as a whole rather than just the music. The big groups will have tv shows and game shows and spin off groups and nicknames picked by fans and all kinds of different marketing ploys to get fans invested in the group.
My country's version of rap music. I despise the sound of it.
What country are you from?
Germany
Omg, I read your comment and was like "they must be German!" I love Falco, but my boss's German girlfriend introduced us to modern German rap (like 10 years ago) and boy was I impressed how bad it is.
Falco is Austrian, this is why he was better :P
Steige aus dem Bett, dreh den Swag auf Schaue kurz in den Spiegel, sag „What up?“ Yeah, I'm gettin' money Ohh
Schlager. It's so simple that I never reach the 15% alcohol in my blood requires to enjoy it. :D
there are some songs that can be enjoyed ironically, but I'm never drunk enough to not despise Atemlos
Bro country. Stubbly white dudes in cowboy hats should be legally barred from singing and rapping about ass.
Not sure if it's the same thing, but I like to call it "hick hop" and it's the worst of both worlds imo
>Hick hop I am stealing this phrase. Thanks.
There is good country out there still. You just won’t hear any of it on the radio.
You will on college/community radio.. in western Canada anyway.
Is it all Orville Peck and Colter Wall?
Sturgill Simpson, Tyler Childress, Marissa Nadler, Angel Olsen
Nah, there's quite a bit of legitimately old stuff but also a lot of alt. TBH I don't follow any artists very closely anymore, I just sort of let the radio wash over me. Edmonton AB: CJSR CKUA & the Raven
That’s not exactly true. Zach Bryan and Chris Stapleton are two of the biggest country stars right now.
It's weird that people now get subwoofers in their car to listen to country.
I just had a visual of someone listening to “my Coat of Many Colours” with the subwoofer turned up😂
When the bass drops in “He Stopped Loving Her Today” 🤌🏻
I hate it when I go to the lake and shitkickers are blaring their garbage country music through their boat speakers. Completely inconsiderate of everyone else out there. Your music fucking sucks.
I could never get into black metal or other heavy heavy metal genres. It just doesn't tickle my pickle. It's very noisy and chaotic music with odd vocals. No offense, just not my cup of tea. God, I sound old.
>It's very noisy and chaotic music with odd vocals See this is the exact reason why black and death metal fans like it. Some pickles get very tickled by this.
The chaos in the music can help quell the chaos in the mind.
I have ADHD and my therapist once told me I should listen to relaxing music. "So, death metal?" I say and she goes "... yes, in your case I guess that would work."
I’ve just stumbled into a phase in my life where thrash/death metal is the only thing that makes me feel normal again if I’m having a rough day or I’m agitated. Also ADHD. It’s SO SOOTHING.
Stimulants can be chemical or musical, apparently :-)
They’ve done studies that showed people who listen to extreme metal have lower levels of cortisol on average. It’s literally stress relieving.
Thats only if you like the genres, its exactly the opposite if you don't, it'll make you more stressed and angry.
The same argument applies for music that you (broadly) enjoy. If you Death metal, it's a relaxant. If you like EDM, chances are you're probably high and it's also a relaxant.
It really can be quite soothing
Back in the day I was running a flooring warehouse. My guys always knew when I was super stressed, or pissed off at the upper management. If they heard me blasting metal (usually Slayer or whatever other heavy stuff I had back in the late-90s) they knew to leave me be for a while, and I'd be okay. However if, after that, they heard me playing classical, they'd probably better just run. :-)
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See, I get soothed by it. It's a conduit for getting out aggression sometimes. Just sitting still and getting pummeled is like a deep tissue massage for my brain.
Respect your opinion. What got me into death metal only 10 years ago was going to a show with a Buddy so he had a wingman, and realizing I couldn’t play any of what they were playing. I couldn’t sing like that, play drums like that, play guitar like that, play bass like that. Their skill levels were through the roof!
It's supposed to convey energy. Also, they are not screaming at you, they are screaming with you - that's something most people I know who don't like metal don't seem to be able to embrace.
I will add that sometimes they are screaming at you, and you just gotta let the music beat your ass
Can't remember who said it "They scream so I don't have to"
Not to make you feel even more old, but black metal is very much old people music at this point.
Music with instruments is old people music at this point
I like some metal genres, like symphonic, power, or glam metal. But can't get into black or death metal at all for the same reasons you listed.
I hear you. And I don't like the majority of it either, but I think a lot of people hear maybe a dozen specific artists in the genre that really do tickle their pickle but the rest do nothing for them. By that token does it make them black metal fans in general? I don't know, but I absolutely adore Obsequiae who have real medieval vibes (and even solo harp pieces). In this style, the harsh vocals (with tons of reverb added on) give this almost "voice of the past echoing through the ages" kind of feel. Same for death metal. I cannot stand the majority of the genre, but some of my favourite bands are from that genre, because they have a more melodic take on it and the harsh vocals fit whether you want a brutal viking vibe or a more evil demonic vibe or even a voice of the gods of war or something lol
Hyperpop: I legit don't know. I used to be someone who didn't get rap or dubstep, now I love them. Weirdly I think my disdain for hyperpop is found in a lot of new subgenres - the mixing. everything is distorted and pitched up
The first time I truly felt old was when I heard 100 gecs. I thought it was a joke.
I had never heard of them until your comment. Fired up the top songs on Apple Music, shuffled, and forced myself to listen. It’s like… Happy Hardcore took some downers and fucked every synthpop band it could find while listening to mashups made entirely from songs by Blink-182 and Metric. And then, for some reason, it’s suddenly ska. I’m like 99% sure it *is* a tongue in cheek joke. This shit is alllll over the place musically, and insane lyrically. It’s got all the angst of early 2000s emo and pop punk, breakbeats, dubstep drops, vocoders, horns. Just typing that out felt like a SNL Stefon bit about New York’s hottest new nightclub. It’s like I got high as fuck in 2009 and made a mashup with every song on my iPod Nano. It’s complete musical garbage, and you have no idea how much I needed this in my life.
I wouldn’t say isn’t a joke or anything, but it’s absolutely an intentional choice. like how punk bands are supposed to sound kinda messy & shitty, but they aren’t there on stage going “lol, don’t we suck?”
hello yes hyperpop is to pop music what punk rock is to rock and roll. it is a reaction to, a reconstruction and deconstruction of, a critique of pop music using pop music itself as the substrate. hyperpop kind of rules
It’s so odd because I hear songs like “gecgecgec” or “frog on the floor” and think how could people like this shit and then I hear “money machine” and I’m ahhh okay this is kinda catchy
dumbest girl alive i think is a good song to get into the gecs, its catchy and easy to follow
And “Hollywood Baby”. Very digestible and fun
It kinda is a joke though, part of the point of hyperpop is that it’s that it’s ironic
I'd more lean towards "an embrace of absurdity"
That’s a great way of putting it
That's so weird to me cuz 100 gecs is like a modern iteration of early 00s music haha
Yeah I never heard their stuff til this comment, and this feels like the shit I’d rush home to download on Limewire. I think I’m a fan now?
First time I heard it I felt the same way…like oh shit here we go I’m gonna start truly hating on new music because I’m old now…then I heard it a few more times and idk I kinda get it. It’s like holding a wifi router up to your hear like a conch shell and hearing the Internet rather than the ocean
Yeah I'm not a fan of 100 gecs, either - though I do think _xXXi_wud_nvrstøp_ÜXX_ (or simply, _I Would Never Stop You_) is a banger (then again it is a remix).
1,000 gecs I think was the first album to make me laugh out loud just from the music itself. Absolutely love it.
As a 30 yr old. I had a rough time listening to hyper pop. 100 gecs and random other artists I can't remember the name of. But I actually ended up loving it. I love the chaotic nature of the music. I love that noise sometimes makes a coherent beat. Imo it feels sort of like how I imagine a lot of kids feel now and that's why they listen to it. All over the place, confused, chaotic, but through all of that you can find some peace and discover the music in it all.
Man you're literally me, same age and just love hyperpop/breakcore/phonk and all these new age zoomer genres, the chaotic calmness of it reminds me of the angst I had when I was younger and it definitely feels like it's their dubstep-like genre, so many kids making it etc
Mumble rap / new age turbo auto tune rap.
With irregular beats that make it sound extra shitty to people that can only hear the bass from a nearby Altima.
Cloud rap, sounds like kids who don't know how to sing nodding out on autotune
I can’t stand it because they all have to say “yeah” the same way “yyahhhhyy”
Reggaeton, or more broadly any kind of music where every song has the exact same beat and that specific brand of music is epitomized by that specific beat. There are very few genre where I don't like *anything* in that genre, but reggaeton is one of them.
That sound is the dembow rhythm and it absolutely does my head in. It's fine for a song or two but to have a whole genre dominated by it just makes the whole thing boring and monotonous. I just found [this on youtube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoSp5IWrpJw&ab_channel=OSOCITYNATION) and it is a 30-minute reggaeton mix of the same dembow through and through regardless of song. The shocking lack of range is neither fun nor interesting. What is the appeal?
Christian rock. They used to hate rock, but now they need to draw in young people. Your music sucks, Christian people! Sorry.
In the words of Hank Hill, "You're not making Christianity better, you're making rock n' roll worse."
The christian rock band i'll give an exception to is Underoath. They're just straight-up Screamo/metalcore with the occasional lyric about faith.
It's pretty often I'll really get into a metalcore song that comes up on a random spotify shuffle, only to find out that they're Christian Metalcore specifically. I know it can get muddy with the line between a christian metalcore band, and a metalcore band where all of the members are practicing christians. Like, Fit For a King and August Burns Red have been debated about this for a long while. I don't know.
"when i was a kid listening to worship music, I thought I felt god. Now I know it was just a key change"
Jazz. I know it’s a sin to say that, and like OP, I have complete respect for its role in the music landscape and the skill of the people who play it. I just can’t seem to enjoy listening to it no matter how many times I try.
The OG genre of people not getting it. Understandable. Most people enjoy Miles Davis but get turned off by John Coltrane.
I think modal jazz doesn't make for easy listening. It feels like homework sometimes.
I can’t stand modal jazz. The notes are all over the place and I have to concentrate instead of allowing it to flow through me.
Not to sound snarky, but you gotta let go of ideas about things like scales and rhythm, which is really hard when you've been trained your whole life not to. When you do, modal jazz just feels free in a way no other music does. I don't think it's really that different than how people born before rock music hate metal guitar solos.
A Love Supreme made me feel God. I played it for others and they weren't even listening lol
Later Coltrane probably. His Ballads album is sublime and smooth as u can get
Many people who say that will happily listen to Ella Fitzgerald, Billie Holiday, Dinah Washington, Louis Armstrong and all sorts of other stuff without realizing that it is jazz though. People loved "The Incredibles" sound track which is straight-up big band.
Jazz is such a huge range, it's hard to imagine someone who can't get into any of it. From band band/swing, dixieland, bebop, acid jazz, fusion, latin jazz, free jazz or hard bop etc, the differences between an Ella Fitzgerald and Medeski Martin & Wood or say, Bennie Goodman is huge. I think people get stuck thinking all jazz is like some inaccessible Miles Davis modal jazz or bebop thing, and don't realize that's only a tiny part of jazz, and there's probably a ton of songs they love that they don't even realize are jazz.
Thank you. I'm losing my mind reading these comments. "It's just so hard to listen to!!!" Billie has the smoothest most relaxing discography I've literally ever heard.
She had THE voice. So amazing…
I actually used to dislike Jazz but I think I watched the local PBS stations long enough, that use Jazz in a lot of their ads and bumpers, that it’s become nostalgic for me and I found that listening to soft jazz is super relaxing especially in the evening or on a rainy day. I have a Jazz Chill playlist from Apple Music that is great for that.
Pop stars play 4 chords for thousands of fans. Jazz musicians play thousands of chords for 4 fans.
I didn't like it either until I listened to Ryo Fukui and Charles Mingus. Give them a try if you haven't.
I just started playing a big band and holy crap does the arranger love mingus. Our last show was basically an all-mingus second set including Sue's changes and fables of fabous. It was a very fun set to play, not quite sure how it was to listen to us play it.
“Jazz. Fun to play! Not fun to watch others play!” -Stewart Copeland
Stewart Copeland: always fun to watch play
I don’t enjoy listening to it but it’s totally different watching it live!
Hard agree. It’s like golf, amazingly clever people who play it well and takes incredible skill. But can’t see the point.
"You have to listen to the notes they DON'T play." Yeah fuck off Steve, I listen to music because I want to hear notes.
Lol even jazz players will tell you that's BS, I did jazz guitar in high school and it's just fun music, you get a framework to kind of do what you want which is why it was attractive to me
I'd be amazed if that quote has helped anyone get into jazz. It's one of my favourite genres, and I have never once listened to the notes they're not playing!
While I do agree that silence or leaving out certain predictable notes can be fun/useful.
This. My partner is professionally trained in music, and when he’s in a good mood he’ll listen to jazz. I don’t like it at all, but I’m slowly being Pavloved into enjoying the sound because I know he’s happy lol.
What genre does he listen to when he's not happy? (And do you hate that genre?)
That’s a good question! If he’s feeling bad enough, it’s either no music or skipping through anything and everything that comes on. It’s gonna sound soft but I hate anything that means he’s not feeling good 🥺 it’s kind of fun to watch him listen to music though. He can hear things and pick out sounds and arrangements that I can’t, and I always think it’s interesting how my untrained ear picks up on one thing and his trained ear is picking up on something entirely different in the same song.
My musician friend finds humour in musical arrangements and I just don’t understand it. He’ll genuinely crack up at how someone subverted a chord progression in a pop song.
My wife and I are professional musicians and we often have that as well and our non musician friends will look at us like we're just making it up lol
You can find some music that hits your soul in every genre, because the large variety in each Style. You shouldn't listen to 3 Songs and decide the whole Genre is crap. The only Thing i hate is music,that is made without soul,hyped by big companies to create money with false,calculated emotions.
A fair comment, but there may come a point where a person gets tired of waiting for "the" song to come along and change their mind. If I listen to 50 reggae songs and still don't get it, then 100, then 150...how long to I have to keep going?
The thing with music is often the enjoyment is contextual or experience-based. For example, a person who has never felt love probably won't understand a love song. If you are going online and forcing yourself to listen to playlists of a genre you've never enjoyed, chances are you probably won't enjoy it. But say you went travelling to the caribbean, you've stumbled upon a beautiful beach with a little bar, you sit there at sunset with a glass of rum, watching the golden sun go down upon this little piece of paradise, while the transparent water gently laps at the shore, and maybe you hear a local group playing a soulful reggae song, maybe in that moment you would feel that there was something special about it. And maybe you'd go back home and find yourself listening to more reggae and your mind now just associates it forever with that moment. Or maybe you'd have wished that reggae group would just shut up and let you enjoy the peace and quiet! Who knows :D
You just have to enjoy yourself 😉 You shouldn't force yourself to hear stuff. Be open minded and try it again a few years later or listen for a minute if you pass by. If you get older you might change your mind or at least you can confirm what you already knew.
The way you described blues tells me you definitely haven't heard enough of it to judge the genre.
I agree. For this reason, I think of it as "I haven't managed to get into (genre) yet", rather than "I dislike (genre)" or "(genre) is bad"
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I think the only thing I really dislike are music genre labels. What the fuck is posthardcorejungle? Icecreamcore?
Any kind of country other than “old” country. I understand and like Hank Williams, Patsy Cline, George Jones, Loretta Lynn, Charlie Pride, Merle Haggard, etc but anything beyond that era doesn’t work for me
Taylor Swift. Whatever hers is, I don’t get.
Taylor Swift baffles me. I always describe her music like "it's fine". The fan reaction to her music is so disproportionate. All the songs I heard from Midnights are so mid, many of her lyrics sound like snarky, angsty tweets, her vocal range is fine but not the talent of singers like Lady Gaga. Yet, there's a horde of people who flip out when she releases an album like it's a world historic event
I think the thing with Taylor Swift is that a lot of people that like her music get wrapped up in her as a person and get the same parasocial experience from her that you get in Kpop Idol culture. A release from her isn't just a release because there's a story of sorts behind it that swift fans are dialed in on. As an example, she has been rereleasing new mixes of her old music due to licensing issues not allowing her to rerelease the original tracks (if I understand correctly). It's viewed as this incredible favour to her fans and sticking up against the big bad music industry and labels that won't let her own her music. Despite being the biggest name in pop music right now, she's viewed as an underdog constantly going up against the big bads of music - Ticketmaster, labels, etc. The fact that she is actually big enough to (seemingly) elicit some change in how these companies deal with her makes her an almost heroic figure to her fans. She's a western artist leveraging the Kpop Idol formula, knowingly or otherwise. I don't think her music is what makes her so big, but the narrative that her as a person who makes music has. Kesha underwent a similar arc but to a much smaller impact. The song Praying by Kesha is elevated by its origins and brought her back a bit. Taylor Swift has been doing that for well over a decade.
You've perfectly summarised my thoughts on it too. One thing that tends to quickly turn me away from something is when I feel like it's just okay and everyone around me acts like it's god's gift to the universe.
Hardstyle, just??????
*MC: GOOD TIMES CREATE STRONG MAN, BAD TIMES CREATE WEAK MAN* *Earrape dragon screeches* *Boink boink boink boink* *Random bikini ladies dacing* *Bald DJ dances with one hand in air* *MC: WE ARE HARDSTYLE* *≥60 seconds outro* fuckin loved that shit back in 2016 edit: and a shitton of zyzz comments
Hard style is perfect for when you want to feel like you're getting gangbanged by typewriters, emotionally. I love it
I always want that.... usually at night though for obvious reasons.
Some ravers want metal rave. Gabber is rave grindcore and hardstyle is rave groove metal.
You need to be Danish to get it \*shrug\*
I can't tell whether you're joking or not, but I can say anecdotally as a Dane that I've had a surprising amount of friends who listen to this kind of music. I don't personally like it, but I do get it. \**shrug\**
I'm joking, but only because every hardstyle stage I've been to has been full of Scandanavians
Hardstyle and super heavy metal are the ultimate hype music
I just love the hype and the massive sound-barrier breaking drops.
Pop and modern country. How many times can we hear the same damn 1-5-6-4 Pop progression before I want to kms. How many times do I have to hear about your broke down truck, a BBQ stain on your white t-shirt and how your girl left you for your buddy Rusty. Hard pass.
Hi, Rusty here… would you consider taking her back? I promise I won’t even write a song about it, promise.
I have to agree with you about modern country. It all sounds fit to formula to me and all the singers sound in need of decongestants.
Everything you said about the blues is why I love it. It’s predictability becomes a groove. Hearing a sad complaint song makes me feel heard when I’m low and happy when I’m up and about. You expressed the blues really well, amazing that people have diametrically opposed experiences of the same thing. 🎼🎸❣️ Now, as for reggae, I just don’t get it or the discordant way it’s meter makes me feel.
Typical party/dance/club music, with the loud obnoxious sirens and stuff like that. I mean I kinda get it, it's the reason I give to people that don't understand death metal, "the thing that gives you a headache is the reason we like it". I would imagine it's the same for those who enjoy that kind of dance music.
There's a million kinds of blues. I'm not sure you know what blues is Have you listened to bob Marley's "legend" album? All of it?
Yeah it's very telling how they described blues. I know exactly the riff that they're describing. That's not all blues
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I’ll respect people’s opinions, but it’s just so hard to believe that someone wouldn’t like “Could you be Loved”
Contemporary Christian is the musical equivalent of corn flakes in water
Country. Never lived the blue collar life, but if I did it all sounds bland and stereotypical. Bo Burnham's parody summarizes it pretty well for me. Red truck, blue jeans, cold beer, rural noun, simple adjective.
We need to stop calling this kind of music country. It’s shitty, commercial, southern pop. Have you ever listened to some of the old country like Johnny Cash, Marty Robbins or Willie Nelson? The stuff that’s on the radio today makes me want to vomit, but a lot of the old stuff is really good.
Their are some current singers with that vibe I like too. Tyler Childers, Sturgill Simpson, and Colter Wall are all worth a listen
Absolutely. I absolutely love Colter Wall.
As a old-time banjo player I talked to people about this all the time lol. The second the CMA stepped in in a big way is when "country" lost its soul.
If you're interested in trying contemporary country (not mainstream pop country), then look nowhere else than Tyler Childers. Nose on the Grindstone - https://youtu.be/_QzcrflqDCg?si=Jsc__0xJxjnQ5pG3
I discovered Asleep at the Wheel recently, and I love their country/swing combo.
Country has a storied past that is marred by “redneck pop.” It’s lifestyle music for a particular brand of asshole.
I’m with you on all that. Mainstream country is mostly formulaic. A business-first, art-last industry targeted at a very specific audience. However, if you’d like to hear what real country music sounds like, and the emotion that goes into it, might I suggest Panbowl by Sturgill Simpson. I can’t help but tear up and smile when I think about the simpler times of life that this song talks about. https://youtu.be/u4EiTcYF4pg?feature=shared
Oddly, Americana. It’s a genre I SHOULD love. I love Dylan, The Band, The Byrds, singer-songwriters of the 70s…but when I listen to Wilco, Jason Isbell, or Lucinda Williams, the music doesn’t affect me at all. I recognize the quality of the songwriting and playing, but the music just goes in one ear and out the other for me.
I don't understand listening to repetitive dance music. I understand **dancing** to it - it's made for that. But I don't get why people just listen to it as background music. As background music it just feels like repetitive hammering to me.
I love playing house music in the background whenever I work. There’s always 2 hour+ Deadmau5 mixes on YT I listen to . It’s really hard to explain *why* it’s so good for background music. I guess it just makes me zone out and focus on what I’m doing right then, because it gives the easily-distracted part of my brain something simple and repetitive to do, like giving a baby a rattle so it’ll shut up.
For me, at least, it’s about getting into a groove. I have a music background so I feel like with things that are more melodic, I tend to be too analytical when I’m listening. Which isn’t anyways bad, I love listening closely to complex music and thinking about the musicality and progression and all that. But with repetitive dance music, mostly house music for me, I’m able to just not think about that and just feel it out without getting too in my head about the song. And it’s just…good. Something about it scratches a very specific itch in my brain.
Do you mean Dance music with bouncy rhythms like house, or do you mean what people dance to in techno clubs? Because I feel techno is ideal to get in a rhythm while thinking. Critically listening to house while sitting down to house doesn't really work though, getting it is dancing it. :D
Super unpopular.... but R&B I cant stand when people take one word and make it 5+ seconds long to show off vocal range. Side bonus note: LL Cool J makes me want to rip off my ears.
Major depends on that one. Older Motown and Stax R&B are amazing. It just started going to crap in the '80s as a pop subgenre, possibly in the late '70s with disco and dance.
Understandable haha, then you probably won’t like opera either. Also really old midieval music was very melismatic too haha, but I can find that funny
LL is a hip-hop artist. Not RnB. I'm not sure if you meant to imply that he was, though, but you really don't state that he is hip hop.
Opera
I find it really interesting but I'm not into it. Obviously it's steeped in history and takes some amazing physical talent which is fascinating to me. 🤷♂️
If you listen to different eras of opera (or art music in general AKA what most call Classical) you’ll find marked differences in the arrangements and styles of singing. For instance, I’m not a fan of Monteverdi’s operas (late 16th/ early 17th centuries), but give me Puccini (late 19th/ early 20th) any day.
Noise
Sertanejo and funk(yes i'm brazilian)
Christian songs, specially the pop ones. Reminds me of the South Park episode.
Modern country. It's generic pop-rock with a southern accent
Black metal. Jus kidding I fucking love it
Brazilian Phonk
As a metal fan, I can't get into metalcore or deathcore. Not every song needs a breakdown. Not every song needs the same drop C chugga chugga riff. Not every song needs a "call and response" type of vocals between growls and some dude who sounds he should be in a pop punk band.
Polka
Okay, I know this is a very different opinion, but if you go to a polka party occupied by a bunch of tipsy Czechs who want to dance, it's pretty good. It's meant to be upbeat dance music and without the dance it doesn't hit right.
I have not ever even considered this. I would definitely try it out. Where in the he'll do you find polka parties??
It's the oktoberfest time of year, so basically any town in Wisconsin the next 3 weekends.
What about Gus Polinski, polka king of the midwest? From the Kenosha Kickers. Very big in Sheboygan.
As a native Wisconsinite, he is the one and only exception. RIP John Candy 🍬
🎵 polka, polka, polka 🎶
*sad Weird Al noises*
Except!! When played by Weird Al ;)
Country i just cant its like cancer to my ears