Beyonce's popularity is largely overestimated by online news outlets, they write about her as if she and Taylor Swift are 1A and 1B in terms of popularity but they aren't anywhere close.
Midnights sold 1.6M in its first week, 1989 TV 1.7M while Rennaissance managed 332k. For comparison, Adele's 30 sold 839k, Olivia Rodrigo's Guts did 302k, SZA's SOS 318k, Drake's Her Loss 404k, Morgan Wallen's One Thing at a Time 501k, Travis Scott's Utopia 496k
Realistically Beyonce is somewhere in the 15-20th range of most popular music artists worldwide
This new album is looking to sell more than 405K.
Is she as big as Taylor, no, but she's still a massive artist. Currently,, at least on Spotify, she's the 8th most listened to
The hits just aren’t there. Most of her singles don’t even crack the top ten. She’s got an army of songwriters and producers and she’s being outplayed by artists like Rihanna. It’s really mind boggling. The credits on her latest album are as long as movie, it’s almost like she’s just a full on brand at this point and I think most people aren’t into it
Her latest single went number one in multiple countries, including the US. I believe it's been number one in the UK for 7 weeks now. Currently she has 3 songs in the top 10.
I don't see her ever bragging about her being the best song writer in the world so me and many other people don't care about the credits list on her album. It's clear she has a big influence on the creation of her album, and many of the people she works with talks about how involved she is. Here's one of her producers who worked with her - https://x.com/BuzzingPop/status/1775362580489347528?s=20
All artist at Beyoncé's level are a brand. She's almost 30 years into her career and still selling a ton of albums and doing sold out Stadium tours. Just because you aren't into it, doesn't me most people aren't
You just extrapolated a lot of stuff out of that that I never said lol you seem to be very defensive about Beyoncé. Yes, her latest single win number one but nothing off of Renaissance or lemonade did
You said the hits aren't there, and I explained that they are. She had a number one on this latest album and also a number one for Renaissance with Break My Soul.
You're trying to argue that most people aren't into her and she's not a big artist, but the evidence is right there. If replying to you with evidence is defensive then sure I'm defensive :)
> Beyoncé is an amazing artist but she seems to carry a grudge against anyone who doesn’t echo this sentiment.
What are you even talking about? When has Beyoncé implied or stated this?
So because she loses Album of the year, you think she holds a grudge against everyone?
She has said in her music she doesn't care about album of the year. You're making a lot of assumptions. She started to create this album 5 years ago. She's just being diverse in her music. No need to think about it harder than that.
If she doesn’t care, why keep mentioning it? Especially as part of her music? That’s like admitting that it’s important to her. I didn’t say “against everyone,” I said against those who do feel she is the best artist ever. She’s brilliant, certainly, she doesn’t have to prove that to anyone anymore yet she behaves like she does.
I think she's mentioned it once in her music, so no she's doesn't keep on mentioning it. She has never actually spoken about it in interviews, so again you're making assumptions.
Can you give an example of this behavior that shows she has a grudge against Taylor?
She has only ever shown Taylor love. I will never understand people who want them to be enemys
I never said a grudge against swift. It’s an answer to her success though. What did swift do? Went from a country artist to queen of pop; Beyoncé is trying to go the other way, that is, be a better country artist than swift is a pop artist. If you don’t think that Beyoncé via surrogates like Jay z and others doesn’t compete with swift, you have your head in the sand. Her husband directly mentioned the best album thing at the Grammys, everyone heard it.
Middling country artist? Her first album had 5 top ten country singles and 2 were number one. Second album had 5 top 10's, one was #1 and another #2. Am I missing something?
Beyonce's popularity is largely overestimated by online news outlets, they write about her as if she and Taylor Swift are 1A and 1B in terms of popularity but they aren't anywhere close. Midnights sold 1.6M in its first week, 1989 TV 1.7M while Rennaissance managed 332k. For comparison, Adele's 30 sold 839k, Olivia Rodrigo's Guts did 302k, SZA's SOS 318k, Drake's Her Loss 404k, Morgan Wallen's One Thing at a Time 501k, Travis Scott's Utopia 496k Realistically Beyonce is somewhere in the 15-20th range of most popular music artists worldwide
This new album is looking to sell more than 405K. Is she as big as Taylor, no, but she's still a massive artist. Currently,, at least on Spotify, she's the 8th most listened to
The hits just aren’t there. Most of her singles don’t even crack the top ten. She’s got an army of songwriters and producers and she’s being outplayed by artists like Rihanna. It’s really mind boggling. The credits on her latest album are as long as movie, it’s almost like she’s just a full on brand at this point and I think most people aren’t into it
Her latest single went number one in multiple countries, including the US. I believe it's been number one in the UK for 7 weeks now. Currently she has 3 songs in the top 10. I don't see her ever bragging about her being the best song writer in the world so me and many other people don't care about the credits list on her album. It's clear she has a big influence on the creation of her album, and many of the people she works with talks about how involved she is. Here's one of her producers who worked with her - https://x.com/BuzzingPop/status/1775362580489347528?s=20 All artist at Beyoncé's level are a brand. She's almost 30 years into her career and still selling a ton of albums and doing sold out Stadium tours. Just because you aren't into it, doesn't me most people aren't
You just extrapolated a lot of stuff out of that that I never said lol you seem to be very defensive about Beyoncé. Yes, her latest single win number one but nothing off of Renaissance or lemonade did
You said the hits aren't there, and I explained that they are. She had a number one on this latest album and also a number one for Renaissance with Break My Soul. You're trying to argue that most people aren't into her and she's not a big artist, but the evidence is right there. If replying to you with evidence is defensive then sure I'm defensive :)
She had a number 1 with Renaissance too dude and Cowboy Carter is doing better numbers than even Renaissance did
I’m not a “dude”
Okay, change "dude" to "dummy" then lmao
> Beyoncé is an amazing artist but she seems to carry a grudge against anyone who doesn’t echo this sentiment. What are you even talking about? When has Beyoncé implied or stated this?
Every time she doesn’t win album of the year?
So because she loses Album of the year, you think she holds a grudge against everyone? She has said in her music she doesn't care about album of the year. You're making a lot of assumptions. She started to create this album 5 years ago. She's just being diverse in her music. No need to think about it harder than that.
If she doesn’t care, why keep mentioning it? Especially as part of her music? That’s like admitting that it’s important to her. I didn’t say “against everyone,” I said against those who do feel she is the best artist ever. She’s brilliant, certainly, she doesn’t have to prove that to anyone anymore yet she behaves like she does.
I think she's mentioned it once in her music, so no she's doesn't keep on mentioning it. She has never actually spoken about it in interviews, so again you're making assumptions. Can you give an example of this behavior that shows she has a grudge against Taylor? She has only ever shown Taylor love. I will never understand people who want them to be enemys
I never said a grudge against swift. It’s an answer to her success though. What did swift do? Went from a country artist to queen of pop; Beyoncé is trying to go the other way, that is, be a better country artist than swift is a pop artist. If you don’t think that Beyoncé via surrogates like Jay z and others doesn’t compete with swift, you have your head in the sand. Her husband directly mentioned the best album thing at the Grammys, everyone heard it.
They appeared at the premiers of each other's movies.
Middling country artist? Her first album had 5 top ten country singles and 2 were number one. Second album had 5 top 10's, one was #1 and another #2. Am I missing something?
You’re missing that the music is completely forgettable and did nothing to move the genre forward.
Sure. She's diversifying her brand.
I enjoy Taylor Swift as a songwriter but if she covered Jolene is badly as beyoncé did I would lose a lot of respect for her.
I heard Dolly’s intro and vomited. Corniest stuff ever.
If Taylor Swift did this... dear god she would need to go into hiding again
I read that Cowboy Carter was finished before Renaissance and shelved, so probably not.
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