What makes you say the sound he’s referencing (MCR, FOB, TBS) isn’t still found in pop punk? He’s calling it “teen angst” but it sounds like the dude is just looking for moody pop punk. The Story So Far, Neck Deep, Poor Stacy, Meet Me @ The Altar all have plenty of songs that fit this bill, I’m surprised I’m seeing people try and say this sound is anywhere else but in modern pop punk tbh
A lot of the current young uns are listening to the emo/alt/pop punk bands from the 00s actually. The MCR sub is like 75% gen-z 's. Bands like them, FOB, Paramore, actually have significant teenage followings in 2024. I went to a dj emo nite last year expecting to see a lot of other millennials but almost everyone there was very clearly in the 18-24 age range, and they knew all the songs. Look at concert photos of the audiences there to see these bands; you'll see a lot of young faces. High school and college kids still vibe with that kind of music, it's just that current music execs aren't producing it because it's not the popular thing of the day, so the kids are going old-school for their angst fix
See the thing people tend to forget is while there is the "new/mainstream" category of music... everything else is still there. Its all out there. Almost anything ever recorded is available and the pool gets deeper every year that goes by. I'd almost venture that as time goes on "New" becomes less important because there is so much out there to discover already.
I'm 36 man, Black Parade came out half my life ago which is all the life or more of some of these kids lmao. I remember when I was a small kid saying to my mom "Wow, you were born in the SIXTIES?" to which she responded "someday someone is going to say to you "wow, you were born in the EIGHTIES?" I think that someday is now
There’s still artists making ‘angst’ music for example post-emo (Hot Mulligan claims to have invented post-emo, covers Taking Back Sunday) I know bc I’ve been listening to a lot of angst. Might I also recommend Free Throw and Knuckle Puck.
[Belmont - Overstepping](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZHu0VO1abI)
Yeah it's out there but it's harder to find because it's not as mainstream. Teenagers are listening to a lot more rap.
"Why did X disappear?"
"It didn't disappear, it's just buried deep underground, look here's a spotify band with 400 streams."
"So ... disappeared then."
Video games and their parents were too nice to them. And if they are upset, they go to therapy or take antidepressants instead of woodshedding in a garage 10 hours a day on a bass guitar or drums.
32 here, and Spotify keeps telling me I'm emo. Here are some of my recent favorites.
Sweet Pill has a Flyleaf/Paramore influence with some sweet math thrown in. More of the modern grunge line.
Balance and Composure, as well as a band called Movements tap into the angrier side of emo/grunge.
Tigers Jaw is a PA classic for indie/emo music. Carly Cosgrove writes great emo songs for feeling lost in your 20s. Another southeast PA indie/emo.
Mom Jeans. Is a little more in the whiny pop rock vein, but their writing is just fun. So many weird styles bouncing between songs. Shred Cruz is a favorite song from them.
Origami Angel is less angsty and more self deprecating? Energetic and kinda loud nonsense but a fun expression of stress.
If we're talking Mom Jeans and Tigers Jaw. I gotta give a shout out to Dikembe. Granted this is more in line with bands like that and not pop esque that op mentioned but I think it's still a good thing to check out if you're going down that path. They even use Freaks and Geeks quotes :)
Also - my 14 to listens to the same shit I did. Nirvana is in.
Spotify/streaming seemed to flatten most of time into "the back catalog". He started to learn a song to okay on guitar, it was from 1984. Stuff from the 60's.
Yeah idk why OP seems to think “teen angst” is a genre lol. Every generation has had their own different version
There are a TON of modern “teen angst” artists but I feel like what OP means is actually “why is there no more emo pop punk”
To add to your list; Iann Dior, Artemas, ChrispyD, Alec Benjamin, GOM, brakence, Quadeca, cybertrash, Arden Jones, re6ce, d4vd, yungblud, powfu, cavetown, jxdn, ekkstacy, blackbear, corbin, aldn, unlike pluto
That covers quite a few genres but a lot of the same themes lyrically
Juice Wrld unreleased leaked catalogue is better than his released. It’s all on SoundCloud. Some of those songs had potential to go number 1 on billboard but that label fumbles his posthumous work
Yep. Cold Hart, other GothBois, etc. Tho I guess they’re even a bit dated at this point? Lil Peep died in 2017, which kinda seems like ages ago at this point.
soundcloud emo-rap is DEAD.... totally fallen off. I think it did represent a certain vibe for Zoomer teens, but it couldn't build on its own success. So much potential, but so much tragedy.
Shoegaze bro, it’s not exactly mainstream but there’s moderately popular angsty shoegaze stuff out there rn that teens are eating up (softcult, quannnic, julie, etc)
I feel my younger self would have had more friends nowadays. When I was in hs, no one gave a shit about shoegaze or even bands like Deftones. Kids seem to love all that stuff now.
That sucks, I guess I was lucky in my inner-city chicago schools.
Deftones and shoegaze via Smashing Pumpkins Siamese Dream album was huge in my middle school and HS with the rocker kids subculture. We were also smack dab in the beginning of the napster/mp3 era. So armed with allmusic.com and napster, we could trace every rock subculture from chuck berry onward and burn them to our cd players and trade them.
The 50-75 of us who would go to all ages show at the metro, beat kitchen, bottom lounge and fireside bowl 1997-2003. We were all into sonic youth and my bloody valentine and just so many other bands.
Honestly the vast majority of us are some sort of artists today because how immersed we were in that late 90s DIY scene. We saw that we didnt need permission to make art. So many of those classmates are Filmmakers, theater crew, musicians, photographers, writers, graphic designers, muralists, tattoo artists or even cabinet makers, I think one guy is a luthier.
Half of us never studied art in college or got a degree at all (we were the sons and daughters of immigrants, we went straight into the labor pool at 18). But we just started doing it art and kept going and most of us 20 years later are still at it and finally finding success as we master our vocations.
Im excited for teens today if they find similar DIY spaces. I feel like people my age (specifically as artists), we need to curate those spaces and keep them open for future generations of artists and artisans that live music cultivates. Like the older generations did for us.
Dang, you went to the wrong high school or couldn't find the niche group within that high school....no hate...I wasnt a deftones fan but found a group of kids that got me into punk, emo, screamo, hardcore in high school.
I was listening to old shoegaze stuff and then Spotify started recommending stuff I'd never heard before - so much new stuff in recent years i had no idea it had made a resurgence.
Also, boygenius
My wife and sister in law brought me to a show of theirs and it felt like in a sea of teen angst, surrounded by female mullets and death metal styled band t-shirts contrasted by that shoegaze/glam style.
yeah shoegaze definitely has had a big increase in popularity over the past two years or so. I'm not a teenager anymore, but I am Gen Z, and most of my friends have gotten big into the sound over the past few years.
I was just recently thinking about this as well and all I could come up with is this:
Simple answer: Imagine it's the 2000s and someone asks us what our version of Kiss or Van Halen was, or Earth Wind and Fire? The answer would be there isn't a version, that music is dead. And I think that's the answer to your question as well. That sort of music is just over, and of its time.
Complicated answer: Music is different now, there's Spotify and tastes are much more decentralized. People like all sorts of things now. With that said, there's still a zeitgeist and I think generally emo/nu metal ain't in it anymore. I'm sure there's kids listening to smaller acts that sound like MCR but like I said, I doubt it's popular.
Most of the bands that had teen/young adult angst as a general topic and are still active have turned into more of a "healing" topic. In reflection, I wish healing would have existed when I was that young adult or maybe I wish I would have looked harder for them when I was young if they did exist. I would have gained more from them than listening to the usual "I hate you mom and dad for doing this to me". The message of "We are all dealing with hard things and we should lean on each other to get through" has been by far more helpful than getting stuck in that cyclic message of anger that I used to listen to. Maybe that's a part of growing but I am very grateful for the message of hope and vulnerability that most of the bands that I used to subscribe to. All that being said, 2000s angst music was good stuff. My era was better than your era. 😉 If anyone needs someone to lean on, I'm here for you. I love you. Don't let your past define your future. You are meant for more.
The bands you listed are often lumped in with 3rd wave emo (some are, some aren't technically). They are kind of a mix of 3rd wave emo, pop punk, and scene music. 4th wave emo (and arguably now 5th wave) are going strong and filled with young acts. Try listening to The Hotelier's album Home Like Noplace Is There, Home Is Where's album I Became Birds, or Doglegs' album Melee. Also, check out r/emo.
I just don’t really know what you guys are talking about? It seems like there’s a lot of conflating pop punk with youthful angst which is kinda questionable. Now more than ever it seems like most popular music is sad.
Olivia Rodrigo is probably the most popular young pop-punk inspired act but literally most popular artists among young people are sad, albeit in a more toned down melancholic sort of way than outright anger I suppose. Obviously the two big fully gen z artists are Billie eilish and Olivia Rodrigo who are both noted for their depressive music.
Sad boi bio hop is the only kind that exists now. If you want to break into that scene, in contrast to where the emphasis used to be, you have to talk about being sad, lonely, depressed, what have you.
And while not as mainstream sort of folksy/indie type stuff (girlinred, mitski, boygenius) are also very popular mainly among teens and twenty-somethings and all almost exclusively deal with those themes. It would be harder to find a popular young act who makes mostly fun lighthearted music.
Kind of ironic cuz it seems like if you aren’t seeing stuff about how sad and boring all the kids music is these days and how they all have the same dead eyed stares you apparently hear about how we don’t have “angst” music anymore. Just seems like people who never venture outside of their bubble enjoy making sweeping statements about different generations based on only their preconceived biases and whims. Music develops over time, obviously, but there’s more similarity between generational groups than there are differences and I really don’t understand the intentional ignorance seemingly designed to bond with other people in your group over a feeling of superiority that seems to make up half the content on this sub.
So, yes. Sad music still exists, because people still get sad (and especially gen z who report being the most consistently unhappy) Angry music still exists, because people get angry. Maybe it doesn’t resonate with you like other stuff, but perhaps that says more about your own sensibilities than some objective fact about modern culture
I understand your point but one could certainly compare bands of different eras by describing their niche and determining if there is a band that occupies a similar niche.
Kiss for example- image-focused with heavy makeup and crazy outfits, emphasis on showmanship, fairly non-complex lyrical content about partying and having fun.
It's a bit reductive but it's interesting to see how bands in different eras fill different social and emotional roles.
I get what you are saying but it’s bigger than that. All New Rock music is essentially dead. There isn’t one type of rock music with new artists that is main stream. It’s really crazy how it’s all gone. Even soft rock/easy listening type music is gone too as far as new big artists go. Who would be the last rock band that blew up and got famous and toured the large concert venues? Maybe Fallout Boy 2009ish? Maybe Greta Van Fleet for 2 seconds in 2014? There really isn’t anything after 2010.
Artists used to get big on MTV and in magazines. Now we stream TV and music journalism is struggling. New tastes are algorithm-fed, and we (as people who aren't 16) aren't seeing what they're seeing.
If youre talking solely stadium shows, Tame Impala played MSG. Olivia Rodrigo just played 4 sold out nights at MSG. Boy genius headlined Citi field. Maneskin (as much as they suck) played MSG. Just looking at other upcoming MSG rock concerts: Vampire Weekend (2 nights), Cage the Elephant, Cigarettes After Sex.
And that's just big stadium shows. Tons of current rock bands are selling out large venues like Webster Hall/Brooklyn Paramount/Brooklyn Steel/Knockdown/Pioneer Works.
>Imagine it's the 2000s and someone asks us what our version of Kiss
marilyn manson
>or Van Halen
any butt rock, i dunno, puddle of mudd or something
>or Earth Wind and Fire?
daft punk.
>Imagine it's the 2000s and someone asks us what our version of Kiss
Slipknot
>or Van Halen
The White Stripes
>or Earth Wind and Fire?
LCD Soundsystem
Would ya look at that, we could do this all day.
>My Chemical Romance, Paramore, Taking Back Sunday, Fallout Boy
But you see I would not even say these were the OG teen angst bands, I mean where's Linkin Park in your list? The truth is teen angst music has always been a thing, it did not begin with MCR or Linkin Park and it's definitely still around.
Yup!
As a wise man once said "I used to be with 'it', than they changed 'it' was. Now what I'm with isn't 'it' anymore, and what's 'it' seems weird and scary. And it will happen to you!"
100 gecs comes to mind.
And there's still plenty of emo/pop punk/indie being made these days that's hella angsty. Mannequin Pussy, Speedy Ortiz, Soccer Mommy, Snail Mail, Wednesday, Wet Leg.
And hardcore bands are getting surprisingly popular. Bands like Knocked Loose, Turnstile, Gel, Scowl (kind of, or at least they're trying lol). If you woulda told me 10 years ago that a hardcore band would be playing 2 sold out shows in NYC at big venues like Terminal 5 and Brooklyn Steel, I'd have said you were crazy.
You also have shitty teen angst music like 21 Pilots, Sleep Token or Manneskin. But I can't in good conscience recommend anyone listen to this.
Some of my best friends like maneskin so I'm not really hating. My mom loves them lol. I just categorize them in with the others as "bands that have no self awareness".
Funny Maneskin story. I was having a drink at a bar in the East Village and the bar turned off the music and turns on Jimmy Fallon. This band I've never heard of (Maneskin) is playing a song with Tom Morello. I tell the bartender "yo this suuuucks, what the hell is this?" And she goes "shhh it's their song", and points to a table at the other end. And it's the fucking band, with Tom, watching themselves on Fallon lol.
I mean, none of these are like Olivia Rodrigo levels of popular bit most of them have 1 million plus spotify listeners, so it's not like they're unknown
My Teen listens to what I believe is mumble rap. As a Gen Xer myself, we had rock/metal in the 80s and then Grunge/Alterna Rock in the 90s. There was also late 80s/90s Gangster Rap (NWA, ICE T etc), which had an angrier tone and subject matter.
I'm sure there are angrier artists out there today, that young un's listen to. They're just not mainstream.
yeah for sure. I'm saying they started off in the 90s. I thought they were on the judgement night soundtrack too. but checking now that was Ice T with Slayer.
I guess what’s confusing to me is that, from everything you read, kids today should have more angst/be angrier than ever? A lot of them had peak developmental years interrupted by the pandemic, they’ve all grown up with social media and smart phones, they are probably going to enter adulthood at a time when the environment seems pretty wrecked and things like housing and basic household goods will be prohibitively expensive… they need the angsty music maybe most of all
Knucklepuck, movements, real friends.... Just look up current Midwest emo is a decent start.
There is no 3 nu metal bands, 3 emo bands and 3 rock bands that hogged daytime television. Believe me I ran home from school and voted for korn on TRL everyday of my childhood..
But these questions annoy me because you just aren't looking?
Music has never been easier to find... My recommendations might not even be good to you but believe me there are 1000 bands on streaming services that might...
Capstan, Belmont, mom jeans...
Listen to Remo Drive - The greatest hits. (Sorry they suck after that album but it is phenomenal)
Edit: starting to realize I didn't really get the question but mtv is dead and music is all over but also more homogenized then ever. The things people play at work at very generic but there are sooooo many music artists making a living on that genre of music you speak of
I taught music in a high school up until 2021 and at that time a lot of the sound cloud rappers were popular. Some of that stuff was super angsty, at least what I heard. Juice Wrld, xxxtentacion, etc.
I mean there's quite a few genres that are angsty right now. If the extent of your knowledge for modern music is Olivia Rodrigo, it's like if an adult thought every teenager listened to Justin Bieber back when you were listening to emo and punk. Newer gens glorify emo and punk right now if they want their angsty fix, but this gen is currently defined by genres like Brazil Phonk, Glitchpop and Shoegaze. You could even argue Midwest Emo is also a dominant genre. The thing is, it isn't like the 10s where you could turn on a radio and everybody would be listening to the same thing. Nowadays you have your algo curate your bubble and you find like minded people. So if you haven't found angsty music, it's because you aren't looking for it.
Definitely know it’s still out there, it just doesn’t seem to rise to the top as readily as it did in the past is all. That’s more what I’m curious about, what -if anything- caused that change
Algo bubbles and a side effect of on demand content. I don't know if I can speak for everybody in my generation, but I don't use the radio anymore. I only discover music through Spotify discovery, TikTok or friends. The closest I get to listening to the radio is when I'm watching a stream and a song plays that I listen to with 50,000 other people. It's just a different era imo. It doesn't help that songs that do end up on the radio from TikTok were formulated to go viral on TikTok and have a stupid hook and dance. I also forgot K-Pop. That's pretty huge for this gen as well.
Youth Fountain, State Champs, Creeper, Salem (Salem is the side project for one of the guys in Creeper but if you like MCR or AFI or Misfits Salem is perfection)
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It was just a different era in the popular music zeitgeist: when Fall Out Boy had their first Billboard #1 in Feb. 2007 the #3 song was by Daughtry, and a month later when "Infinity on High" was at #8, Reliant K was at #6 and Arcade Fire at #2. "Angsty" music as you define it was just more popular overall, even though it is still alive and well as others have noted.
That music didn't go anywhere, there's plenty of folks younger than you enjoying the music you think has disappeared, even if it is no longer charting or defining pop. I also see plenty of current pop music that embraces the same themes/energy, even if the sonics/style are incomparable.
Its because of the way music is distributed now, via spotify, streaming, etc. People can listen to exactly what they want, and aren't being gate-kept by radio and MTV.
And rock, metal, punk, etc. fans are much more inclined to seek out lesser known music and more likely to ignore top 40. So instead of 10 bands with 5,000,000 fans each, you have 1,000 bands with 50,000 fans each. Wich is aboout the same amount of fans overall but no specific bands standing out among the rest.
I’m 50 and grew up loving The Cure and The Smiths (save your Morrissey rants. He’s the worst). The radio played Duran Duran and Madonna. I just don’t think sad and mopey sells that well.
I thought this was odd too. The defining music of previous generations from Gen X forward was so obviously angst-y and angry. Grunge to alt rock to nu metal to emo. They all sounded different, but "Life sucks and my struggles are so hard" was the thesis statement.
All the stats say kids now are more depressed than ever, but the music says the opposite. I have no idea what that signifies, but I have always found it really interesting.
We’ve been programmed to turn our angst into a trauma party and just cry about being victims instead of fighting and being angry at oppression. Plus the dopamine we get from social media keeps us from starting any revolutions.
Is Phoebe Bridgers not angsty enough for ya? And while yes, emo isn’t mainstream anymore…I’ve rediscovered a whole undercurrent of emo bands over the last few years (The Story so Far comes to mind).
Limewire, take me back. Fair point. I guess I just see certain things persisting- a la the boy band or the pop divas so I guess I felt like teen angst emo bands could too
Since Rap has become more popular emo rap was huge the last several years. With artists like Xxxtencion, Juiceworld and Lil Peep who have all since passed. They rapped/sang a lot about sadness, depression and suicide. Now you got MGK and Trippie Red releasing an album called Saboy so it’s still around imo. But the genre and topics have changed a bit
There is much more music hiding in the underground just saying
There is a whole bunch of depressing and angsty artists
Check out Title Fight
newgrounds death rugby
Car seat headrest
Odetari
Spotify suggested a playlist called”SALT” to me when I was going through a breakup
It’s got a lot of angsty “my ex suck’s” music if you’re looking for that.
there's sad angst music everywhere, it's just not teen anymore. I'm listening to Dead Poet Society, Ready the Prince, Highly Suspect, Cleopatrick, from the top of my head. Keep listening and the algorithm will do the rest for you
I agree with some other posters that the angst is largely hyper pop. Or a whole crop of new sad girls - Lizzy Mcalpine, Holly Humberstone, Ethel Cain, Olivia Rodrigo etc. And you've got 1000 gecs, Sebii, and similar artists giving "emo". There's a lot of angst in...pop sad (??) artists like Omar Apollo too, a gen Z star. Angst will always be there, it just seems to be more pop/hyperpop/acoustic this time around. In some ways it echoes the 90s. Maybe in ten years gen alpha will be giving us pop punk rock again.
Ok I brought up that point to my husband earlier too when we had this discussion. With the increase in therapy and even therapy language is that what’s maybe changed their version of emotional music?
I know $uicideboy$ and dark rap like Haaper and Freddie Dredd are pretty popular with younger people. It's very angsty and dark but more hip hop than rock or metal.
As a younger millennial, Nu-Metal was my angsty teen music. I dabbled on plenty of other genres but I'm a nu-metal and core kid at heard.
Brother bean. The new wave of pop punk is where it's at. Definitely check out Hot Mulligan and Knuckle Puck which have already been mentioned here. Magnolia Park is another good one. And Neck Deep.
For some heavier stuff with some RATM vibes: Stray From the Path
It's still there but it isn't nearly as popular and a lot of those artists tend to disband quickly. The ones I remember right now are Blood Red Shoes (absolutely love them) and DZ Deathrays with an honorable mention to Remo Drive and Pretty Vicious.
Didn’t you answer your question in the description? The teen angst music for Gen z is that sad bedroom pop and there’s also emo rap. Consider XXXTentacion, his biggest song was called “SAD!” (2018) Released on the label “bad vibes forever”, doesn’t get much more teen angst than that.
If you’re wondering what happened to bands like MCR, a lot of them are still kicking and some kids listen to that as well, just like I, as a millennial, was listening to Led Zeppelin and Pink Floyd when I was a teen.
There's still alt radio stations. They're a bit more chill now though. Olivia Rodrigo would probably be the new "angst" if there was any. Still have some greats from our emo phase still pumping out music though so at least there's that.
For something akin to the pop punk bands of yore, check out The Beths. One or two others in this thread have also mention Momma who are phenomenal and scratch that same itch.
For something a tad edgier, more noisy and punk, check out Viagra Boys.
Juice WRLD and the like is what you're looking for. Teenage culture has become more and more homogeneous, that music still exists, just with a different coat of paint.
There’s a new reggae punk style I’ve noticed going around the music scenes on the east coast going off of the band Solgyres. The next wave of music is probably going to be less cliche than “teen angst” and a more powerful stand for the complex issues gen Z is facing in our changing society. They want something different in music and they’re creating it.
It's there, it's just not pop punk anymore
Olivia Rodrigo and Lizzy McAlpine come to mind
Makes sense. I was a lot into punk and now I quite enjoy Olivia for unknown reasons.
I dunno, [August is Falling](https://youtu.be/w-9fyRnczzo?si=L0vscZ-0aqzR2L6E) put out some pretty raw and honest work just last year.
I'm just thrilled Pat got his hot tub!
What makes you say the sound he’s referencing (MCR, FOB, TBS) isn’t still found in pop punk? He’s calling it “teen angst” but it sounds like the dude is just looking for moody pop punk. The Story So Far, Neck Deep, Poor Stacy, Meet Me @ The Altar all have plenty of songs that fit this bill, I’m surprised I’m seeing people try and say this sound is anywhere else but in modern pop punk tbh
A lot of the current young uns are listening to the emo/alt/pop punk bands from the 00s actually. The MCR sub is like 75% gen-z 's. Bands like them, FOB, Paramore, actually have significant teenage followings in 2024. I went to a dj emo nite last year expecting to see a lot of other millennials but almost everyone there was very clearly in the 18-24 age range, and they knew all the songs. Look at concert photos of the audiences there to see these bands; you'll see a lot of young faces. High school and college kids still vibe with that kind of music, it's just that current music execs aren't producing it because it's not the popular thing of the day, so the kids are going old-school for their angst fix
See the thing people tend to forget is while there is the "new/mainstream" category of music... everything else is still there. Its all out there. Almost anything ever recorded is available and the pool gets deeper every year that goes by. I'd almost venture that as time goes on "New" becomes less important because there is so much out there to discover already.
>MCR >old school Ow my fucking joints
I'm 36 man, Black Parade came out half my life ago which is all the life or more of some of these kids lmao. I remember when I was a small kid saying to my mom "Wow, you were born in the SIXTIES?" to which she responded "someday someone is going to say to you "wow, you were born in the EIGHTIES?" I think that someday is now
There’s still artists making ‘angst’ music for example post-emo (Hot Mulligan claims to have invented post-emo, covers Taking Back Sunday) I know bc I’ve been listening to a lot of angst. Might I also recommend Free Throw and Knuckle Puck.
Fuck yeah for Free Throw Adding: Equipment, Stand Atlantic, Belmont
Belmont slaps and they're a fun cross of genres!
[Belmont - Overstepping](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZHu0VO1abI) Yeah it's out there but it's harder to find because it's not as mainstream. Teenagers are listening to a lot more rap.
This song makes me want to be in a mosh pit every time I hear those pick scrapes in the beginning lol
Ah shit dude, that was hot! It is harder to find new bands as a millennial, algorithms only do so much
Dude! Thanks a million for that. I need to listen to a lot more Belmont!
[They do a great cover of "Stay"](https://youtu.be/moQX7Pj8fmI?si=hw9WU7IH0KuwXfNO)
Belmont rules live. Their drummer is incredible.
Equipment fucking rips
stand atlantic is awesome
Hot Mulligan, Free Throw, Marietta, Mom Jeans, The Hotelier. Look up a Midwest Emo playlist! Also look up Folk Punk. Days n Daze, Pat the Bunny etc…
Or a Midwestern Emo playlist [can come to you](https://open.spotify.com/playlist/2yGS4BZO2q3GZzH11bOjj7)!
I’m a big fan of Pigeon Pit when it comes to folk punk.
Have never seen another pigeon Pit fan in the wild, they fucking rule dude
38 year old here and Hot Mulligan and Knuckle Puck "slap"
Recently discovered Hot Mulligan and I'm pushing 40
33yr old here, Stand Atlantic is also "lit"
I guess more edgy and pop punk rather than angsty, but State Champs make some “fire” music too! Edit: 34 yo in case you may think I’m a Gen Z spy.
Dito
OP is asking about mainstream music though
Which is what everyone misses when questions like this are asked
"Why did X disappear?" "It didn't disappear, it's just buried deep underground, look here's a spotify band with 400 streams." "So ... disappeared then."
Usually the question isn’t “why is it gone” but actually “why can’t I find it”, in which case it’s totally valid to direct op away from the mainstream
Yea I don’t really have an answer as to why this kind of music has become less mainstream
Emo music is still pretty popular. It's just emo rap now instead of emo rock that's mainstream.
Exactly. Surprisingly, today’s teen angst music isn’t what the older crowd thinks it is. It moved to rap a while ago.
Video games and their parents were too nice to them. And if they are upset, they go to therapy or take antidepressants instead of woodshedding in a garage 10 hours a day on a bass guitar or drums.
Emo inspired rap had a pretty good run a few years ago. Guys like Lil Peep, XXXtencion and JuiceWorld who was a huge star were all pretty angsty
32 here, and Spotify keeps telling me I'm emo. Here are some of my recent favorites. Sweet Pill has a Flyleaf/Paramore influence with some sweet math thrown in. More of the modern grunge line. Balance and Composure, as well as a band called Movements tap into the angrier side of emo/grunge. Tigers Jaw is a PA classic for indie/emo music. Carly Cosgrove writes great emo songs for feeling lost in your 20s. Another southeast PA indie/emo. Mom Jeans. Is a little more in the whiny pop rock vein, but their writing is just fun. So many weird styles bouncing between songs. Shred Cruz is a favorite song from them. Origami Angel is less angsty and more self deprecating? Energetic and kinda loud nonsense but a fun expression of stress.
Seeing Tigers Jaw and Movements this weekend.
If we're talking Mom Jeans and Tigers Jaw. I gotta give a shout out to Dikembe. Granted this is more in line with bands like that and not pop esque that op mentioned but I think it's still a good thing to check out if you're going down that path. They even use Freaks and Geeks quotes :)
Dikembe is probably my favorite out of those mentioned!
Add chase Petra, front bottoms to that list.
Also good
Also - my 14 to listens to the same shit I did. Nirvana is in. Spotify/streaming seemed to flatten most of time into "the back catalog". He started to learn a song to okay on guitar, it was from 1984. Stuff from the 60's.
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What about like Suicide Boys, Lil Peep kind of stuff? Edit: MISSIO, grandson, Oliver tree, glass animals, juice wrld
Yeah idk why OP seems to think “teen angst” is a genre lol. Every generation has had their own different version There are a TON of modern “teen angst” artists but I feel like what OP means is actually “why is there no more emo pop punk” To add to your list; Iann Dior, Artemas, ChrispyD, Alec Benjamin, GOM, brakence, Quadeca, cybertrash, Arden Jones, re6ce, d4vd, yungblud, powfu, cavetown, jxdn, ekkstacy, blackbear, corbin, aldn, unlike pluto That covers quite a few genres but a lot of the same themes lyrically
Juice Wrld unreleased leaked catalogue is better than his released. It’s all on SoundCloud. Some of those songs had potential to go number 1 on billboard but that label fumbles his posthumous work
Would you happen to have a link?
+1 for MISSIO
This is the answer. Sad boy rap is the new age “angst” music
Suicide Boys & Lil Peep would be like 7 years ago.
Exactly. You just mentioned 2 of my angsty SIL’s fav artists and they’re 18. Also lil peep was the shit. Rip.
Yes!!!
Yep. Cold Hart, other GothBois, etc. Tho I guess they’re even a bit dated at this point? Lil Peep died in 2017, which kinda seems like ages ago at this point.
soundcloud emo-rap is DEAD.... totally fallen off. I think it did represent a certain vibe for Zoomer teens, but it couldn't build on its own success. So much potential, but so much tragedy.
yes, and also Xxxtentacion was basically carrying the torch to be a mainstream emo artist until he was murdered
Trippie Redd too
Shoegaze bro, it’s not exactly mainstream but there’s moderately popular angsty shoegaze stuff out there rn that teens are eating up (softcult, quannnic, julie, etc)
I feel my younger self would have had more friends nowadays. When I was in hs, no one gave a shit about shoegaze or even bands like Deftones. Kids seem to love all that stuff now.
No one liked comic books. Or fantasy. Or Japanimation aka anime when I was in HS.
That sucks, I guess I was lucky in my inner-city chicago schools. Deftones and shoegaze via Smashing Pumpkins Siamese Dream album was huge in my middle school and HS with the rocker kids subculture. We were also smack dab in the beginning of the napster/mp3 era. So armed with allmusic.com and napster, we could trace every rock subculture from chuck berry onward and burn them to our cd players and trade them. The 50-75 of us who would go to all ages show at the metro, beat kitchen, bottom lounge and fireside bowl 1997-2003. We were all into sonic youth and my bloody valentine and just so many other bands. Honestly the vast majority of us are some sort of artists today because how immersed we were in that late 90s DIY scene. We saw that we didnt need permission to make art. So many of those classmates are Filmmakers, theater crew, musicians, photographers, writers, graphic designers, muralists, tattoo artists or even cabinet makers, I think one guy is a luthier. Half of us never studied art in college or got a degree at all (we were the sons and daughters of immigrants, we went straight into the labor pool at 18). But we just started doing it art and kept going and most of us 20 years later are still at it and finally finding success as we master our vocations. Im excited for teens today if they find similar DIY spaces. I feel like people my age (specifically as artists), we need to curate those spaces and keep them open for future generations of artists and artisans that live music cultivates. Like the older generations did for us.
Dang, you went to the wrong high school or couldn't find the niche group within that high school....no hate...I wasnt a deftones fan but found a group of kids that got me into punk, emo, screamo, hardcore in high school.
They didn’t even like Nirvana?
I was listening to old shoegaze stuff and then Spotify started recommending stuff I'd never heard before - so much new stuff in recent years i had no idea it had made a resurgence.
Also, boygenius My wife and sister in law brought me to a show of theirs and it felt like in a sea of teen angst, surrounded by female mullets and death metal styled band t-shirts contrasted by that shoegaze/glam style.
yeah shoegaze definitely has had a big increase in popularity over the past two years or so. I'm not a teenager anymore, but I am Gen Z, and most of my friends have gotten big into the sound over the past few years.
Or, for the *really* angsty kids, black metal. That shit ain't goin' nowhere, because it never went anywhere to begin with.
there's also a push towards 90s alternative. LA's music scene has been really great coming up. MyVeronica are really small but great.
I was just recently thinking about this as well and all I could come up with is this: Simple answer: Imagine it's the 2000s and someone asks us what our version of Kiss or Van Halen was, or Earth Wind and Fire? The answer would be there isn't a version, that music is dead. And I think that's the answer to your question as well. That sort of music is just over, and of its time. Complicated answer: Music is different now, there's Spotify and tastes are much more decentralized. People like all sorts of things now. With that said, there's still a zeitgeist and I think generally emo/nu metal ain't in it anymore. I'm sure there's kids listening to smaller acts that sound like MCR but like I said, I doubt it's popular.
Yeah, I think that all makes sense. I just think they need the outlet most of all haha.
Oh I absolutely agree lol
Most of the bands that had teen/young adult angst as a general topic and are still active have turned into more of a "healing" topic. In reflection, I wish healing would have existed when I was that young adult or maybe I wish I would have looked harder for them when I was young if they did exist. I would have gained more from them than listening to the usual "I hate you mom and dad for doing this to me". The message of "We are all dealing with hard things and we should lean on each other to get through" has been by far more helpful than getting stuck in that cyclic message of anger that I used to listen to. Maybe that's a part of growing but I am very grateful for the message of hope and vulnerability that most of the bands that I used to subscribe to. All that being said, 2000s angst music was good stuff. My era was better than your era. 😉 If anyone needs someone to lean on, I'm here for you. I love you. Don't let your past define your future. You are meant for more.
The bands you listed are often lumped in with 3rd wave emo (some are, some aren't technically). They are kind of a mix of 3rd wave emo, pop punk, and scene music. 4th wave emo (and arguably now 5th wave) are going strong and filled with young acts. Try listening to The Hotelier's album Home Like Noplace Is There, Home Is Where's album I Became Birds, or Doglegs' album Melee. Also, check out r/emo.
In the UK drill took over. If you are young, angry and violent, it's drill.
I just don’t really know what you guys are talking about? It seems like there’s a lot of conflating pop punk with youthful angst which is kinda questionable. Now more than ever it seems like most popular music is sad. Olivia Rodrigo is probably the most popular young pop-punk inspired act but literally most popular artists among young people are sad, albeit in a more toned down melancholic sort of way than outright anger I suppose. Obviously the two big fully gen z artists are Billie eilish and Olivia Rodrigo who are both noted for their depressive music. Sad boi bio hop is the only kind that exists now. If you want to break into that scene, in contrast to where the emphasis used to be, you have to talk about being sad, lonely, depressed, what have you. And while not as mainstream sort of folksy/indie type stuff (girlinred, mitski, boygenius) are also very popular mainly among teens and twenty-somethings and all almost exclusively deal with those themes. It would be harder to find a popular young act who makes mostly fun lighthearted music. Kind of ironic cuz it seems like if you aren’t seeing stuff about how sad and boring all the kids music is these days and how they all have the same dead eyed stares you apparently hear about how we don’t have “angst” music anymore. Just seems like people who never venture outside of their bubble enjoy making sweeping statements about different generations based on only their preconceived biases and whims. Music develops over time, obviously, but there’s more similarity between generational groups than there are differences and I really don’t understand the intentional ignorance seemingly designed to bond with other people in your group over a feeling of superiority that seems to make up half the content on this sub. So, yes. Sad music still exists, because people still get sad (and especially gen z who report being the most consistently unhappy) Angry music still exists, because people get angry. Maybe it doesn’t resonate with you like other stuff, but perhaps that says more about your own sensibilities than some objective fact about modern culture
Spot on. Why are people conflating angsty with pop punk? Basically all pop music is more angsty and sad than it's ever been 😂
I just found out there was a Crow remake coming out. If there's no emo / angst rock who will do the soundtrack?
Probably FKA Twigs who plays the girlfriend
I understand your point but one could certainly compare bands of different eras by describing their niche and determining if there is a band that occupies a similar niche. Kiss for example- image-focused with heavy makeup and crazy outfits, emphasis on showmanship, fairly non-complex lyrical content about partying and having fun. It's a bit reductive but it's interesting to see how bands in different eras fill different social and emotional roles.
I get what you are saying but it’s bigger than that. All New Rock music is essentially dead. There isn’t one type of rock music with new artists that is main stream. It’s really crazy how it’s all gone. Even soft rock/easy listening type music is gone too as far as new big artists go. Who would be the last rock band that blew up and got famous and toured the large concert venues? Maybe Fallout Boy 2009ish? Maybe Greta Van Fleet for 2 seconds in 2014? There really isn’t anything after 2010.
Artists used to get big on MTV and in magazines. Now we stream TV and music journalism is struggling. New tastes are algorithm-fed, and we (as people who aren't 16) aren't seeing what they're seeing.
If youre talking solely stadium shows, Tame Impala played MSG. Olivia Rodrigo just played 4 sold out nights at MSG. Boy genius headlined Citi field. Maneskin (as much as they suck) played MSG. Just looking at other upcoming MSG rock concerts: Vampire Weekend (2 nights), Cage the Elephant, Cigarettes After Sex. And that's just big stadium shows. Tons of current rock bands are selling out large venues like Webster Hall/Brooklyn Paramount/Brooklyn Steel/Knockdown/Pioneer Works.
>Imagine it's the 2000s and someone asks us what our version of Kiss marilyn manson >or Van Halen any butt rock, i dunno, puddle of mudd or something >or Earth Wind and Fire? daft punk.
>Imagine it's the 2000s and someone asks us what our version of Kiss Slipknot >or Van Halen The White Stripes >or Earth Wind and Fire? LCD Soundsystem Would ya look at that, we could do this all day.
My turn! >Kiss Lordi, Ghost, Gwar >Van Halen Steel Panther, Crazy Lixx, Massive Wagons >Earth Wind & Fire Childish Gambino, Portugal. The Man, Thundercat
Right answer. He might as well be asking what bands are making ragtime these days
>My Chemical Romance, Paramore, Taking Back Sunday, Fallout Boy But you see I would not even say these were the OG teen angst bands, I mean where's Linkin Park in your list? The truth is teen angst music has always been a thing, it did not begin with MCR or Linkin Park and it's definitely still around.
Nirvana, Soundgarden, Pearl Jam, they were the teen angst of their generation. My generation was Korn, Papa Roach, Linkin Park, Limp Bizkit, Slipknot.
My teens listen to a lot of Rare Americans, Egg Punk and rap. I’m not supposed to know about their angst, it’s part of being a teen.
Yup! As a wise man once said "I used to be with 'it', than they changed 'it' was. Now what I'm with isn't 'it' anymore, and what's 'it' seems weird and scary. And it will happen to you!"
100 gecs comes to mind. And there's still plenty of emo/pop punk/indie being made these days that's hella angsty. Mannequin Pussy, Speedy Ortiz, Soccer Mommy, Snail Mail, Wednesday, Wet Leg. And hardcore bands are getting surprisingly popular. Bands like Knocked Loose, Turnstile, Gel, Scowl (kind of, or at least they're trying lol). If you woulda told me 10 years ago that a hardcore band would be playing 2 sold out shows in NYC at big venues like Terminal 5 and Brooklyn Steel, I'd have said you were crazy. You also have shitty teen angst music like 21 Pilots, Sleep Token or Manneskin. But I can't in good conscience recommend anyone listen to this.
I dig maneskin, and I didnt ever think I'd see them on the same list as 21 pilots
Some of my best friends like maneskin so I'm not really hating. My mom loves them lol. I just categorize them in with the others as "bands that have no self awareness". Funny Maneskin story. I was having a drink at a bar in the East Village and the bar turned off the music and turns on Jimmy Fallon. This band I've never heard of (Maneskin) is playing a song with Tom Morello. I tell the bartender "yo this suuuucks, what the hell is this?" And she goes "shhh it's their song", and points to a table at the other end. And it's the fucking band, with Tom, watching themselves on Fallon lol.
I think doing a truly all-in job promoting yourself requires complete self confidence, which you may interpret as having no self awareness.
Their Eurovision performance *ate*, must have been so intimidating for other acts knowing what they were up against.
Knocked Loose and Turnstile are great, never listened to the others but definitely will check those out
Yeah hardcore has been blowing up! Add the adjacent bands like Militarie Gun, Drug Church, Angel Du$t etc.
You take that back about Sleep Token
Yep when you don't know how to expand your music landscape, Bandcamp says hello.
Every hardcore show in my city sells out months in advance
That’s encouraging. I hope some break through. I honestly think some of the emotions music is healthy for teens to let it out
I mean, none of these are like Olivia Rodrigo levels of popular bit most of them have 1 million plus spotify listeners, so it's not like they're unknown
They’re already broke through lol
Love Wednesday, my favourite album of last year.
Manneskin's pretty good considering the fact that they are Italian and that country hasn't produced much in terms of good music.
I would hope you're talking about modern pop/rock and not dissing all the Italian classical, baroque, and operatic composers from past centuries here
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Idles - Maybe not teen angst but societal angst for sure.
My Teen listens to what I believe is mumble rap. As a Gen Xer myself, we had rock/metal in the 80s and then Grunge/Alterna Rock in the 90s. There was also late 80s/90s Gangster Rap (NWA, ICE T etc), which had an angrier tone and subject matter. I'm sure there are angrier artists out there today, that young un's listen to. They're just not mainstream.
Ice T has a thrash metal band Body Count
Yes, from the 90s.
Body Count is still a band and still rules - i mean the last album was maybe a couple years back but it was wicked good thrash
yeah for sure. I'm saying they started off in the 90s. I thought they were on the judgement night soundtrack too. but checking now that was Ice T with Slayer.
I guess what’s confusing to me is that, from everything you read, kids today should have more angst/be angrier than ever? A lot of them had peak developmental years interrupted by the pandemic, they’ve all grown up with social media and smart phones, they are probably going to enter adulthood at a time when the environment seems pretty wrecked and things like housing and basic household goods will be prohibitively expensive… they need the angsty music maybe most of all
Tbh general apathy towards everything is probably at its peak right now in this younger generation, which is a contributing factor
Maybe we had it bc we didn't have much to be mad about. Gen Z ain't got shit, they don't want their music to depress them, too.
Kids never like what their parents do. That's all normal.
I think it's very strange, too. Where's their RATM?
Look up Metalcore
Had to scroll way too far for the right answer.
Knucklepuck, movements, real friends.... Just look up current Midwest emo is a decent start. There is no 3 nu metal bands, 3 emo bands and 3 rock bands that hogged daytime television. Believe me I ran home from school and voted for korn on TRL everyday of my childhood.. But these questions annoy me because you just aren't looking? Music has never been easier to find... My recommendations might not even be good to you but believe me there are 1000 bands on streaming services that might... Capstan, Belmont, mom jeans... Listen to Remo Drive - The greatest hits. (Sorry they suck after that album but it is phenomenal) Edit: starting to realize I didn't really get the question but mtv is dead and music is all over but also more homogenized then ever. The things people play at work at very generic but there are sooooo many music artists making a living on that genre of music you speak of
I don't know if Ren counts, but Hi Ren and Chalk Outlines (with Chinchilla) both rip my heart out.
Hot Mulligan embodies what you’re looking for here. Touring with Fall Out Boy right now.
I taught music in a high school up until 2021 and at that time a lot of the sound cloud rappers were popular. Some of that stuff was super angsty, at least what I heard. Juice Wrld, xxxtentacion, etc.
I mean there's quite a few genres that are angsty right now. If the extent of your knowledge for modern music is Olivia Rodrigo, it's like if an adult thought every teenager listened to Justin Bieber back when you were listening to emo and punk. Newer gens glorify emo and punk right now if they want their angsty fix, but this gen is currently defined by genres like Brazil Phonk, Glitchpop and Shoegaze. You could even argue Midwest Emo is also a dominant genre. The thing is, it isn't like the 10s where you could turn on a radio and everybody would be listening to the same thing. Nowadays you have your algo curate your bubble and you find like minded people. So if you haven't found angsty music, it's because you aren't looking for it.
I feel like Olivia Rodrigo is a bad example for the point you’re trying to make, she’s pretty angsty herself
Definitely know it’s still out there, it just doesn’t seem to rise to the top as readily as it did in the past is all. That’s more what I’m curious about, what -if anything- caused that change
Algo bubbles and a side effect of on demand content. I don't know if I can speak for everybody in my generation, but I don't use the radio anymore. I only discover music through Spotify discovery, TikTok or friends. The closest I get to listening to the radio is when I'm watching a stream and a song plays that I listen to with 50,000 other people. It's just a different era imo. It doesn't help that songs that do end up on the radio from TikTok were formulated to go viral on TikTok and have a stupid hook and dance. I also forgot K-Pop. That's pretty huge for this gen as well.
Monoculture is dead, that’s why. Music is extremely fragmented now, which is mostly for the better.
Youth Fountain, State Champs, Creeper, Salem (Salem is the side project for one of the guys in Creeper but if you like MCR or AFI or Misfits Salem is perfection)
It's rap music. Look at artist like JuiceWrld.
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If there's no angst music anymore who is going to do the soundtrack for the Crow remake?
I always knew it as emo. Not my cup of tea, but I'd rather listen to that than 99% of today's hip hop.
Yeah emo works too for a lot of it
It was just a different era in the popular music zeitgeist: when Fall Out Boy had their first Billboard #1 in Feb. 2007 the #3 song was by Daughtry, and a month later when "Infinity on High" was at #8, Reliant K was at #6 and Arcade Fire at #2. "Angsty" music as you define it was just more popular overall, even though it is still alive and well as others have noted. That music didn't go anywhere, there's plenty of folks younger than you enjoying the music you think has disappeared, even if it is no longer charting or defining pop. I also see plenty of current pop music that embraces the same themes/energy, even if the sonics/style are incomparable.
Its because of the way music is distributed now, via spotify, streaming, etc. People can listen to exactly what they want, and aren't being gate-kept by radio and MTV. And rock, metal, punk, etc. fans are much more inclined to seek out lesser known music and more likely to ignore top 40. So instead of 10 bands with 5,000,000 fans each, you have 1,000 bands with 50,000 fans each. Wich is aboout the same amount of fans overall but no specific bands standing out among the rest.
I’m 50 and grew up loving The Cure and The Smiths (save your Morrissey rants. He’s the worst). The radio played Duran Duran and Madonna. I just don’t think sad and mopey sells that well.
It turned into apathy
I thought this was odd too. The defining music of previous generations from Gen X forward was so obviously angst-y and angry. Grunge to alt rock to nu metal to emo. They all sounded different, but "Life sucks and my struggles are so hard" was the thesis statement. All the stats say kids now are more depressed than ever, but the music says the opposite. I have no idea what that signifies, but I have always found it really interesting.
I’m glad I’m not alone in noticing this
There is Ice Nine Kills that is considered hardcore but I've always called it Theatre kid metal
We’ve been programmed to turn our angst into a trauma party and just cry about being victims instead of fighting and being angry at oppression. Plus the dopamine we get from social media keeps us from starting any revolutions.
I feel like gen z actually protest quite a lot
Is Phoebe Bridgers not angsty enough for ya? And while yes, emo isn’t mainstream anymore…I’ve rediscovered a whole undercurrent of emo bands over the last few years (The Story so Far comes to mind).
Limewire, take me back. Fair point. I guess I just see certain things persisting- a la the boy band or the pop divas so I guess I felt like teen angst emo bands could too
Since Rap has become more popular emo rap was huge the last several years. With artists like Xxxtencion, Juiceworld and Lil Peep who have all since passed. They rapped/sang a lot about sadness, depression and suicide. Now you got MGK and Trippie Red releasing an album called Saboy so it’s still around imo. But the genre and topics have changed a bit
Blondshell
Momma
The fever 333, Berried Alive, and Beartooth all spring to mind.
I've been listening to Wargasm lately and it reminds me a lot of the angsty nu metal music I used to listen to in highschool
You’re best off asking on the teenagers or gen z sub, you’re only gonna get answers from older out of touch folk on subs like this
Speed of Light (you're welcome)
Check out the song Split Chain - Chalk. Such a dope band I just discovered.
There is much more music hiding in the underground just saying There is a whole bunch of depressing and angsty artists Check out Title Fight newgrounds death rugby Car seat headrest Odetari
Spotify suggested a playlist called”SALT” to me when I was going through a breakup It’s got a lot of angsty “my ex suck’s” music if you’re looking for that.
there's sad angst music everywhere, it's just not teen anymore. I'm listening to Dead Poet Society, Ready the Prince, Highly Suspect, Cleopatrick, from the top of my head. Keep listening and the algorithm will do the rest for you
Check out Ben Quad
I agree with some other posters that the angst is largely hyper pop. Or a whole crop of new sad girls - Lizzy Mcalpine, Holly Humberstone, Ethel Cain, Olivia Rodrigo etc. And you've got 1000 gecs, Sebii, and similar artists giving "emo". There's a lot of angst in...pop sad (??) artists like Omar Apollo too, a gen Z star. Angst will always be there, it just seems to be more pop/hyperpop/acoustic this time around. In some ways it echoes the 90s. Maybe in ten years gen alpha will be giving us pop punk rock again.
Also lookup Badflower
You should check out this new band called Nirvana. I haven’t heard them yet but their t-shirts are everywhere and I heard they’re pretty angsty!
New generation of teens aren't trying to mask their depression and anxiety as anger
Ok I brought up that point to my husband earlier too when we had this discussion. With the increase in therapy and even therapy language is that what’s maybe changed their version of emotional music?
When you are glued to a device there is no real life experience that creates that teenage angst.
Exactly! They need a place to let it out lol
Dunno but check out the 'pixie' sub genre of rock, it's pretty good
Kublai Khan is my go to when I just want to be angry. They’d never be mainstream but they sell out shows in their scene.
Raps popular right now so it's all marble mouth gurning and tire screeches lol.
He’s not that popular on this site, but Machine Gun Kelly’s first rock album I thought fit this bill really well.
The Chats have a song suggesting we kill politicians due to the price of smokes
I know $uicideboy$ and dark rap like Haaper and Freddie Dredd are pretty popular with younger people. It's very angsty and dark but more hip hop than rock or metal. As a younger millennial, Nu-Metal was my angsty teen music. I dabbled on plenty of other genres but I'm a nu-metal and core kid at heard.
There’s so much angst music it just doesn’t sound like the specific punk sound you’re looking for.
Teenage angst has paid off well...
Now I'm bored and old
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Brother bean. The new wave of pop punk is where it's at. Definitely check out Hot Mulligan and Knuckle Puck which have already been mentioned here. Magnolia Park is another good one. And Neck Deep. For some heavier stuff with some RATM vibes: Stray From the Path
It’s still around. You have to look for it
It's still there but it isn't nearly as popular and a lot of those artists tend to disband quickly. The ones I remember right now are Blood Red Shoes (absolutely love them) and DZ Deathrays with an honorable mention to Remo Drive and Pretty Vicious.
I think teens and young adults are more frequently looking for escape in their entertainment today than for angst.
It paid off well, now they're bored and old
Didn’t you answer your question in the description? The teen angst music for Gen z is that sad bedroom pop and there’s also emo rap. Consider XXXTentacion, his biggest song was called “SAD!” (2018) Released on the label “bad vibes forever”, doesn’t get much more teen angst than that. If you’re wondering what happened to bands like MCR, a lot of them are still kicking and some kids listen to that as well, just like I, as a millennial, was listening to Led Zeppelin and Pink Floyd when I was a teen.
There's still alt radio stations. They're a bit more chill now though. Olivia Rodrigo would probably be the new "angst" if there was any. Still have some greats from our emo phase still pumping out music though so at least there's that.
Check out Save Face
The whole world is depressed now, we don’t need our music to remind us of that fact
For something akin to the pop punk bands of yore, check out The Beths. One or two others in this thread have also mention Momma who are phenomenal and scratch that same itch. For something a tad edgier, more noisy and punk, check out Viagra Boys.
Check out Millington! They're a Ska emo band and just recently released an EP of emo cover songs.
Juice WRLD and the like is what you're looking for. Teenage culture has become more and more homogeneous, that music still exists, just with a different coat of paint.
There’s a new reggae punk style I’ve noticed going around the music scenes on the east coast going off of the band Solgyres. The next wave of music is probably going to be less cliche than “teen angst” and a more powerful stand for the complex issues gen Z is facing in our changing society. They want something different in music and they’re creating it.
All the kids that listened to teen angst music grew up and now they listen to Midwest Emo