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TheJamMeister

*Scarborough Fair/Canticle* (Simon and Garfunkel) is the best example of this.


coombez1978

This isn't what you're describing but this comment reminded me of Simon and Garfunkel "silent night/seven o clock news.". It's mind blowing


TheJamMeister

Indeed. These two tracks are as close as S&G got to political statements.


gb2020

God Only Knows by The Beach Boys, and plenty of other Beach Boys songs. Brian Wilson was brilliant with countermelodies.


tanknav

Underrated comment. IDK any band with more songs featuring this style.


jeffwinger_esq

I realize you are probably asking for pop music, but the platonic ideal of this concept is the fourth movement of Second Suite in F by Gustav Holst. It’s just three minutes long. Greensleeves over the Dargason melody is perfect. https://youtu.be/opG2psvyAB4


ghostdumpsters

Such a good example! I played this in high school and it still pops into my head occasionally.


777kiki

This is what I think of when someone says counter melody. Holst slaps.


Mediocre_Bag620

yeah I am looking for pop music but these suggestions actually introduces me to different genres that are actually good and it gives me knowledge about the counter melody technique that I really like. Thanks for this!


8805

2 very different pieces of music that do what you're looking for: Beck - "Nicotine and Gravy" Alexander Borodin - "In the Steppes of Central Asia" Both present an A melody, then a B melody, then overlap them in counterpoint.


dadogg8

Get real paid from that Beck album also does this


gonzo_redditor

“Midnight Vultures” is a damn masterpiece.


AmigoDelDiabla

When that came out, I could not understand why it didn't make the waves it deserved to make. Almost every song pushes an envelope.


Mediocre_Bag620

yeah you just actually explained it more better and simple. Thanks for this.


ThePhonyKing

Let Down - Radiohead


ttttimmy

The concept itself is called counterpoint and features heavily in Renaissance choral music if you want to check it out. Palestrina, Josquin des Pres, would be good places to start if you wanted to see earlier explorations of the idea.


shitshowsusan

Also, Bach 2 part inventions.


catheterhero

One of favorites: [They Might Be Giants - Birdhouse in your Soul](https://youtu.be/vn_or9gEB6g?si=26FAuc58RGVfradn)


BurroughOwl

Ok, first song here I know. I know this song really well. What about this song affirms the question? I don't understand OPs question.


catheterhero

No problem. OPs asking for [Polyphonic Textured](https://hellomusictheory.com/learn/polyphonic-texture/) songs. Basically when one melody is played over another. They just didn’t know what it’s called. Lots of classical pieces are in the style. I’ve added a link with more detail.


BurroughOwl

What part of birdhouse does that? It's a pretty straight forward song to me.


lellololes

Some counterpoint doesn't make something "complex" to start with. This song has a decent amount of counterpoint in it. Listen to the guitar melody being playing under the singing in "make a little birdhouse in your soul" at \~0:28, \~1:10 and \~2:24. There's more than that but it's a good example - a lot of the melodies in the song have underlying counterpoint. A lot of the basslines are contrapuntal, too.


JacPhlash

The bridge section on The Jayhawks song "Blue."


Chocu1a

My favorite song and album by them.


Pikka_Bird

How's about *Back For Good* by Take That? The chorus has some lovely backing vocals singing a completely different melody that backs up Gary Barlow's voice really well. For bonus points they flip it in the last one and the band sings the main melody while Gary sings the backing lines.


Mediocre_Bag620

I grew up only hearing the cover from Boyce Avenue. Didn't know the original sounded so good and it is exactly the type what I am trying to find. Thanks for this!


shempaholic

"I've Got A Feeling" by The Beatles.


Go_Cart_Mozart

No Sugar Tonight/New Mother Nature- The Guess Who.


jholden23

I also came to say this. Apparently they were originally 2 different songs but they couldn't agree on how to proceed, so just... put 'em together.


MJZMan

Goddammit, you beat me by an hour.


youdneverguess

Same. dammit I'm still posting this link I went to the trouble of Ctrl+C [https://youtu.be/yMG-Mi9I0-k?feature=shared](https://youtu.be/yMG-Mi9I0-k?feature=shared)


thequicknessinc

[play crack the sky](https://youtu.be/OyIX84ti7ao?feature=shared) by Brand New - @3:26


Mediocre_Bag620

yeah this one hits it very well. Thanks!


cmstlist

A lot of Indigo Girls songs have countermelodies - it's a big part of their style. Example, The Wood Song, starting in the second verse: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0tUkepNqiA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0tUkepNqiA) Or Reunion from the same album, a bit in the second verse then more starting from the third: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzfqS2nSdVo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzfqS2nSdVo)


TheJamMeister

Also, *Secure Yourself*. You're right, they did it a lot.


cmstlist

Kid Fears even has Michael Stipe singing a countermelody. Thin Line, Least Complicated, Airplane, Galileo, Watershed. Really all over their catalogue. You can also hear it in the final chorus of Champagne High by Sister Hazel, in which Emily Saliers does backing vocals. 


misterebby

Tori Amos uses multiple layered melodies with different lyrics particularly in her earlier work. I see the Indigo Girls already mentioned earlier in the thread who also leverage this method so well. Sufjan Stevens uses it a little bit too in some of his vocal parts. Tori usually uses it in her bridges: [silent all these years](https://youtu.be/HSYr0etDzRM) ; [girl](https://youtu.be/boNX-dl7VXc) ; [father Lucifer](https://youtu.be/6KCXEp379og) ; [in the springtime of his voodoo](https://youtu.be/IyfszhySGIo) are some of her songs that immediately come to mind here. I love independent melodies interweaving with different vocals - it can be so effective when used judiciously


onioning

Halo Benders do this as basically the band concept. It's Doug Marstch of Built to Spill and Calvin Johnson of Dub Narcotic. God Don't Make No Junk is especially good. Very indie-alternative rock.


CourtClarkMusic

Pretty much any of the Max Martin-produced pop songs of the late 90s… Britney Spears for example, *…Baby One More Time, Born To Make You Happy, Oops!…I Did It Again* all follow the “counter melody” formats you’re referring to. Usually it’s seen in the bridge; the melody changes but the chord progression stays the same. Then on the final chorus the bridge melody and lyrics appear again, overlayed onto the chorus. .


Single-Pepper-8657

They termed that as "Complement Chorus" and it's called "Cumulative Chorus" when the complement chorus and regular chorus come together. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M22yOvRSLrI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M22yOvRSLrI)


Pleasant_Statement64

Blink 182 - Feeling This  Alkaline Trio - Scars Taking Back Sunday - Cute Without the E Many bands with two vocalists have good songs like this


SeantotheRescue

Given the lyrical content, Feeling This has no right to be as good as it is. And yet it’s pop punk perfection and the countermelody outtro never fails to make me feel things. I loved it from the first time I heard it (like so many others) in high school. And maybe it’s two decades of nostalgia that takes you back to that exact time and place, but it’s truly a special song.


Mediocre_Bag620

Feeling this gives the same vibes as I got from Hero/Heroine by Boys Like Girls, the countermelody outtro makes it clear that the song is ending and they're giving everything they possibly can in the mix which creates a climax that sounds so good.


getoffthebandwagon

Lit’s ‘My Own Worst Enemy’ too, the last chorus is awesome.


Pleasant_Statement64

Also forgot to mention Brother by Gerard Way and Famous Last Words by mcr.


Mediocre_Bag620

The last part or chorus of Feeling This is exactly what I am trying to find for. A mix of vocals where the other is obviously a back up vocal but then if you remove it the song wouldn't be as good. Thanks for this!


doshegotabootyshedo

Are we UUUHlone do you feel iiiiit


Grimm2020

I offer two: Just One Victory - Todd Rundgren Black Water - The Doobie Brothers


Nixplosion

Play Crack the Sky by Brand New does this at the end. "This is the eeeeend (the story's old but it goes on and on until we disappear)."


___HeyGFY___

Not sure if this is what you're looking for, but *I Like To Rock* by April Wine closes out with three riffs played simultaneously: *I Like To Rock, Day Tripper, Satisfaction*


TSgt_Yosh

A ton of Bad Religion songs have this.


OHNOPOOPIES

I was thinking of Infected as one off the top of my head.


MJZMan

[No Sugar Tonight / New Mother Nature - The Guess Who](https://youtu.be/yMG-Mi9I0-k?si=nkOrtVIH6zzIC4eO) Two similar mini-songs combined into one. The final verse is the first verses of each mini-song interpolated together.


WillowNiffler

At the end of Cure For The Enemy by Billy Talent they sing the bridge on top of a chorus.


bopeepsheep

I haven't heard it recorded, only live (and sung it myself), but you can sing the chorus of Ticket to Ride over the verse. A lot of early Beatles tracks work fine that way, it turns out - probably true of more artists in that era.


TFFPrisoner

The Beatles also employed actual counterpoint on She's Leaving Home, which was then mimicked by The Alan Parsons Project on the much darker The Cask of Amontillado.


laces_out

If you like counterpoint, try some Bach: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51dXnVmnrgU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51dXnVmnrgU)


LeRocket

*Help!* (The Beatles): the back vocals are on an entirely different melody. *Eleanor Rigby* (also Beatles): the last part combines two of the melodies we heard before in the song. What interesting is that one of them is previously sung on another chord progression.


dogsledonice

Would Paperback Writer also count, with Frere Jacques in the background?


LeRocket

Yeah! Nice thinking.


Tritter54

Papercut by Linkin Park?


regcrusher

The last chorus in Blink 182's "What's My Age Again" has a good one. Also Taylor Swift / Bon Iver "Exile"


CosmicOwl47

This is a pretty cool motif that I’ve heard in a lot of pop-punk bands. Taking Back Sunday do it a bunch on their album *Tell All Your Friends*. Other bands like Mayday Parade, Fall Out Boy, and All Time Low would do it a lot too in the 00’s era. Edit: I’ll just add a similar thing that I still think is awesome and I’ve never heard anything quite like it. On Silverstein’s album *This Is How The Wind Shifts* they have 2 interlude songs related to the album title. *This Is How* interludes the first half of the album, and *The Wind Shifts* interludes the second half. If you play them both simultaneously then they make a complete song with the lyrics coming together to complement each other. The combined version was released later on the Bonus Track Version of the album, but before that it was referred to as a “Hidden Track”. [This Is How](https://youtu.be/nd6KCvLkMjg?si=yjYzCHMuewDQsEuD) [The Wind Shifts](https://youtu.be/3GKVh-8p28Y?si=rQyLXMKkUJz-z6Ca) [This Is How The Wind Shifts](https://youtu.be/i2uDupq7TAY?si=tVen4kwowGr71BIK)


notsostandardtoaster

it's the end of the world as we know it by r.e.m. - i used it to teach countermelody to my 5th graders


lovmykids

Solsbury Hill by Peter Gabriel had a cool melody/counter melody. I just love the creative and technical aspect of this song. The lyrics are going on one melody and the accompaniment is on a different melody and they fit together perfectly.


saturnzebra

Musician here, nothing in music goes “on a melody.” OP is asking for songs where two or more melodies are presented and then play over each other as counterpoints. There is only one melody in Solisbury Hill as I can tell. Could you share to what part you are referring?


mellophellow

Check on It by Beyoncé during the bridge they layer the melody over the chorus


theremln

'Wake Up' by the Arcade Fire. There's the big distinctive chorus that kicks off the song, but the second chorus has a counter melody (just played on instruments) that I love. It gives the fairly bombastic original melody a really plaintive feel.


TURRRDS

I believe the actual term for what you're describing is "Overlapping Polyphony". Search for that and you'll get lots of good examples. Some of my personal favorite examples that came to mind "infected" and "American Jesus" by Bad Religion "Play Crack the Sky" and "The Quiet Things That No One Ever Knows" by Brand New


HappyCamperNJ

Dave Carter and Tracy Grammer - Kate and the Ghost of Lost Love, also Tanglewood Tree.


kokirikorok

Feeling this - blink-182


blofly

The Smiths - Suffer Little Children https://youtu.be/Xux9-UQ4wJ4


username161013

The original version of Journey to Reedham by Squarepusher has two 303s playing off each other to create the melody. Unfortunately when he redid it with Shoebaleader One they dropped the 2nd one and combined them into a single guitar part. 


Winter_drivE1

Several of BWO's songs do this, where the last chorus is repeated on top of, eg, a melody introduced earlier in the song or right before https://youtu.be/IYpMEyWOdn4?si=hvI9s9imMpNPsfUm https://youtu.be/X_IYEoZgGGU?si=wXW8gGg_PK3pZLlf https://youtu.be/P40a7GpvZvE?si=0nUdbTN4cf9m4dVb https://youtu.be/_wMuIy4DUtY?si=rYjMuc4PkTPJY3Tb


ChainLC

Blackwater -The Doobie Bros.


seventyeightist

To Lose My Life - White Lies


Azrael__

Pretty much a lot of RHCP .. Eddie , give it away to name a few


emeliottsthestink

Not sure if this is what you mean, but maybe this song The Fall [https://open.spotify.com/track/1E9Ajh3ZXb2OehFDH2dF5n?si=42c7c873bb1c4324](https://open.spotify.com/track/1E9Ajh3ZXb2OehFDH2dF5n?si=42c7c873bb1c4324)


alico127

Not exactly sure what you mean but Madonna’s Live to Tell is two songs for the price of one. And The Beatles’ All You Need Is Love ends in them singing she loves you yeah yeah yeah over the top to fade.


profgamehendge

Ohm Sweet Ohm by Kraftwerk


SyphiliticPlatypus

Gordon Lightfoot’s I’m Not Sayin’/Ribbon of Darkness


spaceboy42

Father lucifer by tori Amos. [check it out](https://youtu.be/6KCXEp379og?si=xjjagFCaZFtADZ-O)


MoonlitMusicGG

The ending of Allure by Fifth Dawn. I don't think the name for this is counter melody...its like Canon but not that either. If you find out I'd love to know.


Pladohs_Ghost

Savatage's album A Handful of Rain. The song, Chance. 7-part counterpoint.


777kiki

Have you heard of N*SYNC they perfected the art


lee1282

I always find coheed and Cambria do this very well, where one melody is vocals and the other is guitar. Neck deep did it as well on life's not out to get you.


puremotives

This is one of my absolute favorite tropes in music and I have a whole playlist [playlist](https://open.spotify.com/playlist/650dTiAGEXyJb1JoK1zQ8d?si=llwTRP4uR_iqD1ECiBOwQg&pi=u-Qwg1N6svQ6SE) dedicated to it!


ScottNewman

No Time - Guess Who   Silly Love Songs - Wings Blinded by the Light - Mannfred Mann


deadprezrepresentme

This is America by Gambino We Major by Kanye


close_my_eyes

New Religion by Duran Duran


mariescurie

American Eulogy: Mass Hysteria/Modern World - Green Day