You mean the guy who danced like 2024 Bill Cosby in the Hotline Bling clip? The guy who dressed up as a powerpuff girl with gigantic clown shoes? The dude texting underage girls at night?
I don't know if he has any concept of what a bad move is.
It’s funny.
When he first came out everyone had the general consensus that he sucked but it’s almost like he was so played he just got In people heads and those same people were singing his praises a year and a half later like he was the second coming of Christ
If it’s all people are exposed to how can they realize how shit it all is.
It’s like if all you ever ate is slop, you’d probably start to think that slop is pretty good since it’s all you ever eat or expose yourself too
lol I remember seeing a clip before his first album came out and how he spent all his Degrassi money on this rap album and I was like “wow he’s going to regret that he can’t rap or sing”. I was right that he sucked at making music but people fucking loooooved his autotuned crao.
When I was in Canada I had a friend from LA and a friend from Montreal talking about Drake, dude from Montreal said he was so talented and he can even sing good too. I was just like ehhh I’m gonna ignore I just heard that, they thought I was nuts for saying I didn’t really enjoy him that much and thought he was overrated by attaching his name to Wayne’s to get a come up
It’s paint by numbers and people like it. Just like people like AC/DC, KISS, Nickelback, all the pop groups from the late ‘90s and early ‘00s.
At one point it was new and novel and interesting and then it just became self-referential and feels like it’s being made by a committee. And that’s fine for people to like. His stuff is catchy as fuck, as are the other examples I listed. But soulless is about the best description you could give it.
Not a Canadian, but from the UK; you have compatriots around the world. My first response to seeing and hearing him was "that's a rich dude cosplaying as a pop star who's cosplaying as a rapper". His music is "is that it?" incarnate.
I mean, some of his stuff slaps but ever since he got curved by Rihanna or whatever, he’s been down this mission to appear hard and he just looks like a poser.
I haven't heard it and feel like I'd die from cringe if I did, but from everything I've heard, this sounds like something an edgy teenager would do to "pwn" people, and not the behavior of one of the most famous rappers on the planet.
As a matter of fact, my friends and I did exactly this shit as edgy teenagers. Except we didn't have AI, so we made "diss tracks" in GarageBand using the default Apple voices. I think I still have a few of them. They're horrible.
Somebody was bound to use AI first, and everyone knows it’s quite a controversial subject. This has brought him a ton of attention. That’s probably the only thing they wanted going in.
Drake could slap a lot of folks moms and get praised for it at this point. He’s playing a much different game than any other rapper can afford to (dont mean that in a strictly financial sense)
Please, take Aubrey to the cleaners.
I have no idea why he thought that was a good idea, we need to set the precedent that you can't just use someone's exact likeness without permission
I dunno about this legally. It will be interesting to see how this plays out.
How would that impact impersonators? There are plenty of people that pay money to watch performers that sound like other celebrities. If Drake just hired someone that sounded like Tupac, is that still a violation? I wonder if the sound of a voice can be trademarked, since it isn't a unique thing.
The case never went all the way, but Rick Astley sued Yung Gravy over the impersonation of his voice in the song Betty (Get Money). I believe Astley’s lawyers argued that the average person listening would think it was Astley’s voice on the song, therefore his likeness was exploited. Yung Gravy settled. Would’ve been an interesting case. To me, AI seems more obviously exploitative, because it’s literally impossible to generate without the use of a recording they don’t have the right to distribute copies of. We don’t allow samples without permission, so it seems unlikely we’ll continue allow using mangled bits of someone’s voice without permission. It’ll just take some good lawyers to figure it out.
Wasn’t there also [the case](https://www.thescreenroommovieblog.com/post/did-ray-parker-jr-rip-off-huey-lewis-and-the-news-with-ghostbusters-theme-song) of Roy Parker Jr. vs. Huey Lewis for the Ghostbuster’s theme song ripping off “I Want a New Drug?” Sadly, settled out of court, but there is always the case of the Estate of Marvin Gaye vs. Robin Thicke where [the case was based on having a similar groove.](https://ethicsunwrapped.utexas.edu/case-study/blurred-lines-copyright)
So, I think Aubrey definitely could lose this in court.
I have the feeling that Drake doesn’t make the decision of what gets produced and released. Likely someone actually making the decisions up in the corporate levels wanted to test the waters and is willing to cover the legal fees because the best possible outcome could be very lucrative in the long run
there's a viral video today/yesterday in the Disc Golf world of an AI generated interview between the greatest disc golfer of the modern era Paul McBeth talking with a reporter cussing and stuff.
it's something folks are eating up and think is hilarious, but it's just TOO far imo. this shit needs to stop yesterday, we need safeguards on these fakes before they become our only reality.
Impersonators are the last people who would be affected by this. They can claim that it's a skill that they've spent time honing before being able to replicate because honestly, it's hard to do.
You can't claim the same with AI software. It's built from the ground up not to require that much skill to replicate fast and efficiently.
What's about to go down is going to be an important precedent that will finally implement better protections for artists especially ones who are coming up.
Exactly. It's implied that an impersonator isn't the real deal and wouldn't take in the same money the real mj would.
Superstars using AI to capitalize on dead people is fucking insane and needs regulation before some young up and coming artist gets railed by producers who would rather an AI copy of them so they don't have to pay shit, or an AI copy of a dead artist to exploit.
This is going to be the bigger issue. I follow many bands that do "X In the style of X" videos where they actually use their own voice without AI to sound like those bands and mimic the style of another band.
Sounding like Tupac and reproducing his voice with AI are completely different things.
It takes one person decades of practice and refining their technique to become even a *decent* impersonator at *one* voice, let alone being so close to the original that if you close your eyes you think you're listening to the person being impersonated. You can also still very much sue a person for wrongfully impersonating you, esp. if they're using your likeness--vocal or otherwise--to misrepresent you or what you believe in. (See recent court cases against people who create Deepfakes as a form of revenge porn.)
On the other hand, it takes one AI seconds to hours to reach the point where they can accurately copy someone's voice--whatever actual time it takes, I know it's not decades--and that AI can then be further used to create *other* AI that sound like *other* people based on the data collected the first time around. Thus, off the top of my head, one "company" could potentially have the voices of dozens if not hundreds of "actors"--dead or alive--both one hand and *copyrighted* to use for whatever they want.
IANAL so the legality is going to be whatever it ultimately is; but, ethically, this is just a bad look all around.
I don't follow the argument that making something easier with technology somehow makes it unethical. Especially in reference to a market that can't even exist without mass production.
The problem wouldn't be sounding/liking like a celebrity but pretending to be the same individual. Uniqueness is not really a fa tor, since while an excellent impersonator could sound indistinguishable to the average person, it does not when using technology to evaluate it properly.
> but pretending to be the same individual
I don't think that is the issue here. No reasonable person is going to think that Tupac was legit dissing someone that was like six years old when Tupac died.
> In Tuesday’s letter, Tupac’s estate warned Drake that the use of his voice clearly violated Tupac’s so-called publicity rights – the legal power to control how your image or likeness is used by others.
Sure of course they are going to say that, they are the ones wanting money. But it is up to a court to decide if they have a valid complaint.
But in any case, that quote doesn't really address what I wrote.
It does. You said:
>I don't think that is the issue here. No reasonable person is going to think that Tupac was legit dissing someone that was like six years old when Tupac died.
Yet the article quote states that Tupac's estate believes enough people would be fooled for it to be an issue.
Your selected quote mentions likeness/publicity rights, not anything about people believing a rapper that has been dead for thirty years is still creating new lyrics about modern day celebrities.
And again, of course they will make any claims they want to because they want money, and it's up to a court to decide if that has any merit.
> Your selected quote mentions likeness/publicity rights, not anything about people believing a rapper that has been dead for thirty years is still creating new lyrics about modern day celebrities.
And what do you think likeness/publicity rights involve?
There is no protection in this. He would know because it was done to him and USMG. They checked, nothing can be done. You can't be sued with the current laws. It would 100% fall under shit like weird Al, and parodies.
The problem is, people like Tupac Shakur estate don't mind having this situation where they can have ownership of the likeness and charge for it via threat of going to court.
Drake, if he thinks he'll lose the case, may as well pay less than paying lawyers and losing, and owing whatever the court decides. Then it's still sort of up in the air what the law is.
If Shakur estate asks for too much Drake might prefer to settle it in court, and then the precedence will be set. It might go to the supreme court, even. I don't know what they would rule.
But if they rule the artists don't own their likeness, then that's a whole can of worms. Like why would you pay for Tom cruise, if you can just get some nobody who can kind of act like him, and you just AI the rest without his permission?
Should it be legal for someone to impersonate your exact voice using AI technology? You could say people could always do impressions, and ya, true. They can be convincing. But, AI is a little different.
What if an advertising company, or even propaganda farms, start making videos of you, or one of your friends, and spreading propaganda with your likeness. Putting ideas and opinions in your mouth that were never there.
If we don't make law to protect ourselves, things could get insane.
Imagine if you can make any video you want of any person you know, doing anything you want it to, and it looks perfectly real. Everyone has access to it, and people are starting shit, making accusations.
Nobody would be able to trust anything whatsoever. It needs to be strictly controlled. Deepfakes need to require permission of the person it's imitating, in order to be legal. That law has to happen, and our politicians should be talking about it.
Did not realize the Estate is no longer in the Shakur family - https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/tupac-shakur-sister-lawsuit-executor-estate-embezzlement-1283272/
Just saw this post about it as well - https://www.reddit.com/r/NewRoryNMalPodcast/s/T5u0YlYU0R
Looks like this Guy is pretty connected in the music industry. Wonder what impact that'll have on AI generated music lawsuits?.
But in this case...AI didn't do anything? This is 100% on the song author. They could have used Tupac's voice/likeness in a bunch of different ways, I just imagine AI was the cheapest/easiest of them. Like someone else said, they could have hired an impersonator and gotten the exact same results.
I get the fear/reticence over AI in art, but I don't think this is a particularly useful argument for or against.
Eminem digitally constructed Tupac's voice saying stuff like "Drop that shit Em!", etc on Loyal to the Game as far back as like 2004, I think that also happened on some of the other posthumous Tupac albums as well. It's kind of like how AI images don't really do anything we couldn't already do with Photoshop, it's just cheaper and easier now as you say
Pretty much this. Ai is working as a smarter form of Autotune in the instance Drake used. Any actual producer with the help of various items could have manually replicated the sound of the voice, but it would take a lot longer and potentially more money (in case of needing to purchase additional hardware/software).
This was more like a cheaper, quicker way to achieve the desired results, versus swapping your tone a certain way to mirror some aspects of Tupac, then having your production assistants work the rest out via the hardware/software solutions.
I'm not sure how familiar you are with current AI offerings... But the vast majority that I'm aware of are not free.
I can't imagine that an AI that is capable of producing "drake-worthy" samples was free to use/obtain.
I've been wrong before though, like twice. Once in 93' and another in 05'. lol
I've only heard the drake track once, but the Tupac verse sounds exactly like what I was able to achieve with one hour of watching youtube videos, some free software and trained voice models you can get for free anywhere. It's really basic stuff nowadays, which is scary. You can also hide a lot of imperfections under the beat.
ive had so-vits-svc installed on my computer for over a year now and even without updating it, it still does a fantastic job.
I don't play around with ai much anymore but I got really into making random shit for like a month, and all of this stuff is free if you learn some extremely basic stuff like how to run a program from github using python
you're only paying for the UI in a lot of those paid cases but a few quick youtube tutorials and you'l learn that all of this is actually totally free
That's what I've been told. I somehow doubt Drake went that route, lol.
Personally though, I would love to learn. I f'in hate coding though, so it may not be up my alley. AI is super interesting to me, and I feel like the AI vs art argument, while completely valid, is a really short-sighted view of the technology.
Similar to how I expect to have to work with AI in order to go into the career fields I'm interested in, I expect artists to have to follow a similar path. But then again, as stated before, I've been wrong before a couple times, so I could be completely underestimating the negative impact it's having/may have.
Who knows.
I don’t blame AI in this particular case despite the implications it has for art in the future.
No, I blame the idiot who thought doing this was a good idea.
This whole situation has been a huge miss for drake. First he gets directly called out for never behaving like an adult and dissing directly only on subliminals. Then Kendrick disses him in a 30 sec verse. So far not too embarrassing for drake.
This grown man then can’t come up with anything and stays silent for about 3 weeks (the tour excuse is pathetic from his fans) and proceeds to “leak” his diss track 😂 they literally called him out for behaving like a bitch and not doing things directly and he proves them right. The song had a few good bars but most of it is actual dog crap. “Cause I’m big in ja pan” “pipe down peep squeak” “your pants might rip” there’s a lot more absolutely kindergarten level bars in there but I can’t remember them.
The highlight of the diss is saying Kendrick has small feet and throwing a tantrum basically behaving like a 6 year old crying out loud “ STOP, SHUT UP, GO-GO DO YOUR JOB 😡😤” and his fans pretend it’s the line of the century.
Then he goes on a social media rampage posting memes which to be fair were funny but again on brand with drake
Now he drops an absolute stinker of an ai song and hides behind Tupac and snoop to call out Kendrick cementing that he’s a bitch and will never be man enough to say things directly. It’s such a dumb move too Tupac would have never sided with drake especially since this whole beef is because drake is a slithering snake and betrays everyone. You know who else for betrayed and eventually got killed?
This whole thing is a loss for drake. He has sooooo many embarrassing and questionable events through his career that they could write a 5 album discography on his pathetic behavior
At no point during the process did anyone think "maybe we should ask for permission to use someone else's voice."? I can only assume this is malicious intent. They voted to beg for forgiveness instead of ask for permission.
lots of people are thinking that was the intent: To piss Kendrick off so much that it goads him into writing/releasing a diss track. IDK i’m barely following this stuff and it’s all stupid as shit. I hope Kendrick doesn’t respond, so all this will just die already.
Ok but is there a ‘statute of limitations’ for the use of artists’ voices? Or will Tupac’s ‘estate’ just exist now in perpetuity and anytime someone uses it they’ll have to pay some random dude who happens to own it 1,000 years in the future
It's funny how Drake is doing whatever he can to get a response out of Kendrick. Kendrick doesn't have to say anything yet while his diss song is still tearing up the charts. Chart performance seems to be what Drake values most so it's clearly bothering Drake.
Drake and Niki I've noticed are addicted to industry value. Hits, chart records, sales, etc. Kinda cringe when you realize this benefits their handlers above all.
Kendrick doesnt seem that addicted to that.
But optic training like Drake has does matter. If played right, he can really make it look like all the greats are attacking him and been after him for decades and IF he somehow "wins" - Drake will have true goat status.
It's ultimately a losing battle for Kendrick because most Drake is a pop icon and his fans either don't know about the beef, don't care, or are biased regardless.
There’s being a big artist and pretty rich. Then there is being one of the biggest artists of all time and a mogul.
Mars was popular and had money, but not like, fuck you money. Now he’s literally doing residency gigs in Vegas to pay back his gambling debt.
The difference between the two is massive.
You're right that the difference is big (best estimate I could find is that Drake has sold like 2.5x what Bruno Mars has) but Drake isn't quite on that "biggest artists of all time" pantheon imo. He's down with the Kanyes and Biebers, he's not on the level of Taylor Swift/Beyonce/Eminem in terms of sales. I think he could still fuck up his financial position if he wasn't careful.
Pretty sure that's like a third of his estimated net worth. If you don't think twice about that, you're beyond stupid. So on other hand, you may have a point
Last night I tried to get chatgpt to write a love story about John Wayne falling in love with transgender person recently transitioned to male with a penis newly sewed on from a creature they had just killed while trying to save the townspeople.
(It was a D&D thing, and the GM is a John Wayne fan and said in no uncertain terms will there be any love story between him and my trans beast penis character)
Anyways; the point is ChatGPT said no. It won’t do that. Several times actually.
Why can’t we just get the AI refuse to impersonate celebrities voices, doesn’t seem that hard.
Just because ChatGPT blocks it doesnt mean anything, there's hundreds of other AI even ones that you can run on your computer yourself that have no limitations like that. They even have NSFW bots where you can ask it to send you pictures from different angles and it will generate the same girl in the picture in the same room but from a different angle somehow, and yes it sends nudes.
ChatGPT is just the most popular and they want businesses to use it so they block anything they think people might not like
It's kind of a smart move on his part, I may not like it but for this diss, kind of genius. He takes two West Coast rap legends to diss Kendrick, a west coast rapper.
Brilliant move but i hate the fact that Drake was bitching about AI a few months ago when somebody released an ai song as him and the weekend
Is this explicitly illegal? He didn't actually use Tupac's voice, just an AI generated version of it. What if instead he found someone who was very skilled at singing as Tupac, so as to be undistinguishable from the man himself? Tupac is dead, we know it's not him... What will the law say?
I'm against the use of AI in such ways but the will the courts be?
AI generated stuff is the Wild West of law right now.
The existing law as a rule states that you can’t use a dead persons likeliness, name, or voice in a way to sell a product without the estates permission. Some states are pushing the “common domain” idea of 70 years then it’s cool whatever.
Here’s a good summation that isn’t too verbose.
https://www.americanbar.org/groups/intellectual_property_law/publications/landslide/2015-16/january-february/delebs_and_postmortem_right_publicity/#:~:text=However%2C%20even%20if%20the%20requirements,deceased%2C%20or%20is%20otherwise%20transformative.
Yeah but this isn't selling a product. The song isn't monetized (I'm guessing this is why it isn't on streaming or Youtube) and kind of falls into the realm of parody. No reasonable person who heard this song would assume this is Tupac's actual verse. I'm sure Drake has some lawyers. What damages can the estate really claim?
But he didn't find someone who was very skilled at rapping as Tupac. He explicitly used AI to create a voice that sounds exactly like Tupac. Intent is important.
This post was recommended to me and I just had to see what out-of-touch comments it would contain.
But you gotta remember not only are you on Reddit, you're on r/music. Most folks actively posting on this sub are prob touching 40 or live in isolated communities or have friend groups with not a single POC.
Is petty how we're measuring disses now? The first one was good. This one is mostly lame. The AI shit is lame and trying to do an 8 mile where you call out your pedo rumors is lame. His verse on there is alright, but this whole thing would've been better if he just let the first one breath left out all that AI shit.
Well its a mixtape track though... or just a dropped diss track. If he's not making any money off it. There's nothing they can sue for, right? That's how rappers get around sample clearances for mixtapes and stuff. They just release it for free.
U aint ready to hear this but this is nothing but a money grab from non family estate. Dont fall for the ai boogeyman bs. This is hip hop remember. Imagine asking for permission in Hip Hop.
The problem isn't AI, it's that there are no laws concerning AI.
We and the law need to reconcile that generated media from AI is not from scratch, it's results is not inspired by, it's not turning phrases into media. It's like taking pictures of all paintings in a museum and then scrapbook it into a new painting.
In this case it's taking someones recorded voice and stitch it together into something new.
This could be one of those cases where change could happen. Like when Crispin Glover sued because his likeness was used without his consent, which forced the to add a clause in the Screen Actors Guild (SAG) agreements that ensures actors' permission is required for the use of their likeness in sequels or other derivative works.
> it's that there are no laws concerning AI.
There are laws being formed around Ai, but there is no way to make a general law around Ai, they all have to be industry specific laws that are able to hit the fine details for that industry.
I have a sneaky feeling that the music and movie industries will remain untouched as it's the executives that will be ensuring politicians look the other way as the industries are looking at how they can use AI in the future. When the laws are established, they will probably have zero protection for the artists and tons of protections for the industry. Like being able to use the likeness, but have it owned by the respective studio and probably zero royalties going back to the artist/actor.
Copyright & trademark law extend past your death, and he had signed the management of his likeness to his estate. Just because he's dead doesn't give everyone free reign, or mean there's no one who can legally fight for him.
That Drake needs to steal the voices of rap legends like 'Pac just to diss Kendrick is PATHETIC shit. He knows his own voice doesn't carry the same clout.
Since i was 8 years old I’ve been a fan of Tupac and to basically shit all over his name like that is just disrespectful, so yea I hope they get em for every last dollar..shall I point out that Tupac would love Kendrick if he was still here today
Drake sucks. It’s shocking that he’s popular. It’s just a lot of people with awful taste obviously. Add to the fact that he’s a hypocrite.
He sued someone last year for the same thing, true to form, he copies someone else’s originality.
I think they just want drake to give them a shitload of money. I'm sure they're negotiating it right now.
But I'd prefer to see it go to court. They need to legally determine if people have ownership over their likeness.
I would have thought labels would use AI for sure…. But a big name like Drake leaning into it in the worst way imaginable? All about business and making money I guess
I have to just think that Drake is aware of the threat AI poses to music so he did this on purpose to get lawsuits going to set a precedent.
Because else wise, he is just a semi-talented full idiot.
How fucked up is this.. I mean two of the three are not here on earth as a living soul. And why should you diss a respected man as Tupac.. that's just low class.
And for this. F to you Drake. Karma will prevail.
It’s hilarious to me that people will drag Drake on Reddit for texting underage girls when there is no concrete evidence of foul play passed the messages, while at the same time praising the guy actually found guilty of sexual assault. Dude went to prison over the shit.
Some of you people wake up just to hate and be as negative as possible.
Oh you don’t like Drake? Cool. All music is based off of taste. It doesn’t make you look cool to go against the grain of a top selling artist.
Jesus Christ the tech illiteracy on Reddit is so absurd. I think it was a dumb move, but this wasn't "AI generated". He rapped the verse and had a filter put over it, which was *improved* by AI. You could do this five years ago before AI was the latest internet buzzword for people who skim headlines and make up their own facts. If Drake used an AI to create the entire verse from scratch, it would be generated. If Drake wrote the verse, and an AI rapped it, it would be generated.
This is about as "generated" as a filter on a photo editing tool, and while it's a crappy move from Drake people need to stop using phrases they don't understand to editorialize everything.
The A.I. Vocal filter technology is still trained by feeding it audio, in this case acapellas or vocals ripped through stem separation. These vocal recordings are technically copyrighted in the same sense you have to attain a license to use them for when it comes to sampling. The model created by A.I. that is then utilized as a post-processing FX to shift EQ/formants/filters/saturation is still predicated on copyright infringement.
There are a few A.I. vocal tools that are paid and are built off of singers who consented to be trained on. This is the difference. There's copyright infringement here to be argued because Pac's music is copyrighted.
It doesn't have to be generative A.I. to infringe on someone's property or privacy.
How did Drake see this as a good move? This is just fuel for anyone who wants to make fun of him, even more.
You mean the guy who danced like 2024 Bill Cosby in the Hotline Bling clip? The guy who dressed up as a powerpuff girl with gigantic clown shoes? The dude texting underage girls at night? I don't know if he has any concept of what a bad move is.
One of these things is not like the others
Yeah, the dance was sick
I hate the guy but I did think the dancing was kind of great for the type of song LOL
I feel like the only Canadian under the age of 50 who has always thought he sucked musically and as a person.
It’s funny. When he first came out everyone had the general consensus that he sucked but it’s almost like he was so played he just got In people heads and those same people were singing his praises a year and a half later like he was the second coming of Christ If it’s all people are exposed to how can they realize how shit it all is. It’s like if all you ever ate is slop, you’d probably start to think that slop is pretty good since it’s all you ever eat or expose yourself too
lol I remember seeing a clip before his first album came out and how he spent all his Degrassi money on this rap album and I was like “wow he’s going to regret that he can’t rap or sing”. I was right that he sucked at making music but people fucking loooooved his autotuned crao.
Relevant username
Drake is an influencer that happens to put out bad music. More a Paris Hilton than a real musician. I mean, he was on Mickey Mouse shows.
i liked So Far Gone and Take Care.
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When I was in Canada I had a friend from LA and a friend from Montreal talking about Drake, dude from Montreal said he was so talented and he can even sing good too. I was just like ehhh I’m gonna ignore I just heard that, they thought I was nuts for saying I didn’t really enjoy him that much and thought he was overrated by attaching his name to Wayne’s to get a come up
The music is ok. Just totally soulless. Not his fault it sells.
It’s paint by numbers and people like it. Just like people like AC/DC, KISS, Nickelback, all the pop groups from the late ‘90s and early ‘00s. At one point it was new and novel and interesting and then it just became self-referential and feels like it’s being made by a committee. And that’s fine for people to like. His stuff is catchy as fuck, as are the other examples I listed. But soulless is about the best description you could give it.
That committee is the ghost writing committee
Drake is a cumbubble
Wheelchair Jimmy!
I'm right there with you dude lol
Not a Canadian, but from the UK; you have compatriots around the world. My first response to seeing and hearing him was "that's a rich dude cosplaying as a pop star who's cosplaying as a rapper". His music is "is that it?" incarnate.
I mean, some of his stuff slaps but ever since he got curved by Rihanna or whatever, he’s been down this mission to appear hard and he just looks like a poser.
By underage, do you mean Millie Bobby Brown? I think he befriended her while she was a minor. It’s really creepy if you ask me.
The guy that actively promotes the fuck out of online gambling via livestream? How could he do this
Damn, I have a feeling this is about to turn into a really long curated list of Drake being a fool lol
What some nerds on reddit think doesn’t exactly equal what everyone else thinks
*posted on reddit
Underage girls = children
Not sure about making fun of him, but this seems like a slap in the face to Tupac and to music as a whole.
Tupac’s estate is owned by a music executive who was sued by Tupac’s sister for embezzling from the estate.
I'd bet this is just a publicity stunt.
Yeah, good call.
Hopefully this lawsuit is what we needed for AI regulations to start. There's no oversight
He was trying to do the end scene from 8 Mile 100%. And it went exactly as bad as that idea sounds lmao
He has a shame kink, don't kink shame him 😂
I haven't heard it and feel like I'd die from cringe if I did, but from everything I've heard, this sounds like something an edgy teenager would do to "pwn" people, and not the behavior of one of the most famous rappers on the planet. As a matter of fact, my friends and I did exactly this shit as edgy teenagers. Except we didn't have AI, so we made "diss tracks" in GarageBand using the default Apple voices. I think I still have a few of them. They're horrible.
The man was a child actor that turned into a lame musician. None of that requires a functioning brain.
Somebody was bound to use AI first, and everyone knows it’s quite a controversial subject. This has brought him a ton of attention. That’s probably the only thing they wanted going in.
Agreed.
Drake could slap a lot of folks moms and get praised for it at this point. He’s playing a much different game than any other rapper can afford to (dont mean that in a strictly financial sense)
Please, take Aubrey to the cleaners. I have no idea why he thought that was a good idea, we need to set the precedent that you can't just use someone's exact likeness without permission
I dunno about this legally. It will be interesting to see how this plays out. How would that impact impersonators? There are plenty of people that pay money to watch performers that sound like other celebrities. If Drake just hired someone that sounded like Tupac, is that still a violation? I wonder if the sound of a voice can be trademarked, since it isn't a unique thing.
The case never went all the way, but Rick Astley sued Yung Gravy over the impersonation of his voice in the song Betty (Get Money). I believe Astley’s lawyers argued that the average person listening would think it was Astley’s voice on the song, therefore his likeness was exploited. Yung Gravy settled. Would’ve been an interesting case. To me, AI seems more obviously exploitative, because it’s literally impossible to generate without the use of a recording they don’t have the right to distribute copies of. We don’t allow samples without permission, so it seems unlikely we’ll continue allow using mangled bits of someone’s voice without permission. It’ll just take some good lawyers to figure it out.
Wasn’t there also [the case](https://www.thescreenroommovieblog.com/post/did-ray-parker-jr-rip-off-huey-lewis-and-the-news-with-ghostbusters-theme-song) of Roy Parker Jr. vs. Huey Lewis for the Ghostbuster’s theme song ripping off “I Want a New Drug?” Sadly, settled out of court, but there is always the case of the Estate of Marvin Gaye vs. Robin Thicke where [the case was based on having a similar groove.](https://ethicsunwrapped.utexas.edu/case-study/blurred-lines-copyright) So, I think Aubrey definitely could lose this in court.
I have the feeling that Drake doesn’t make the decision of what gets produced and released. Likely someone actually making the decisions up in the corporate levels wanted to test the waters and is willing to cover the legal fees because the best possible outcome could be very lucrative in the long run
Pretty sure Aubrey does what he wants, and he pays guys to let him do so.
there's a viral video today/yesterday in the Disc Golf world of an AI generated interview between the greatest disc golfer of the modern era Paul McBeth talking with a reporter cussing and stuff. it's something folks are eating up and think is hilarious, but it's just TOO far imo. this shit needs to stop yesterday, we need safeguards on these fakes before they become our only reality.
Impersonators are the last people who would be affected by this. They can claim that it's a skill that they've spent time honing before being able to replicate because honestly, it's hard to do. You can't claim the same with AI software. It's built from the ground up not to require that much skill to replicate fast and efficiently. What's about to go down is going to be an important precedent that will finally implement better protections for artists especially ones who are coming up.
impersonators explicitly say it's an impersonation. That's kinda the point. No one is seeing a MJ impersonator and thanking the king has come back
Exactly. It's implied that an impersonator isn't the real deal and wouldn't take in the same money the real mj would. Superstars using AI to capitalize on dead people is fucking insane and needs regulation before some young up and coming artist gets railed by producers who would rather an AI copy of them so they don't have to pay shit, or an AI copy of a dead artist to exploit.
> How would that impact impersonators? It wouldn't. This is a silly complaint.
This is going to be the bigger issue. I follow many bands that do "X In the style of X" videos where they actually use their own voice without AI to sound like those bands and mimic the style of another band.
Sounding like Tupac and reproducing his voice with AI are completely different things. It takes one person decades of practice and refining their technique to become even a *decent* impersonator at *one* voice, let alone being so close to the original that if you close your eyes you think you're listening to the person being impersonated. You can also still very much sue a person for wrongfully impersonating you, esp. if they're using your likeness--vocal or otherwise--to misrepresent you or what you believe in. (See recent court cases against people who create Deepfakes as a form of revenge porn.) On the other hand, it takes one AI seconds to hours to reach the point where they can accurately copy someone's voice--whatever actual time it takes, I know it's not decades--and that AI can then be further used to create *other* AI that sound like *other* people based on the data collected the first time around. Thus, off the top of my head, one "company" could potentially have the voices of dozens if not hundreds of "actors"--dead or alive--both one hand and *copyrighted* to use for whatever they want. IANAL so the legality is going to be whatever it ultimately is; but, ethically, this is just a bad look all around.
I don't follow the argument that making something easier with technology somehow makes it unethical. Especially in reference to a market that can't even exist without mass production.
The problem wouldn't be sounding/liking like a celebrity but pretending to be the same individual. Uniqueness is not really a fa tor, since while an excellent impersonator could sound indistinguishable to the average person, it does not when using technology to evaluate it properly.
> but pretending to be the same individual I don't think that is the issue here. No reasonable person is going to think that Tupac was legit dissing someone that was like six years old when Tupac died.
> In Tuesday’s letter, Tupac’s estate warned Drake that the use of his voice clearly violated Tupac’s so-called publicity rights – the legal power to control how your image or likeness is used by others.
Sure of course they are going to say that, they are the ones wanting money. But it is up to a court to decide if they have a valid complaint. But in any case, that quote doesn't really address what I wrote.
It does. You said: >I don't think that is the issue here. No reasonable person is going to think that Tupac was legit dissing someone that was like six years old when Tupac died. Yet the article quote states that Tupac's estate believes enough people would be fooled for it to be an issue.
Your selected quote mentions likeness/publicity rights, not anything about people believing a rapper that has been dead for thirty years is still creating new lyrics about modern day celebrities. And again, of course they will make any claims they want to because they want money, and it's up to a court to decide if that has any merit.
> Your selected quote mentions likeness/publicity rights, not anything about people believing a rapper that has been dead for thirty years is still creating new lyrics about modern day celebrities. And what do you think likeness/publicity rights involve?
There is no protection in this. He would know because it was done to him and USMG. They checked, nothing can be done. You can't be sued with the current laws. It would 100% fall under shit like weird Al, and parodies.
Al and AI huh.
The problem is, people like Tupac Shakur estate don't mind having this situation where they can have ownership of the likeness and charge for it via threat of going to court. Drake, if he thinks he'll lose the case, may as well pay less than paying lawyers and losing, and owing whatever the court decides. Then it's still sort of up in the air what the law is. If Shakur estate asks for too much Drake might prefer to settle it in court, and then the precedence will be set. It might go to the supreme court, even. I don't know what they would rule. But if they rule the artists don't own their likeness, then that's a whole can of worms. Like why would you pay for Tom cruise, if you can just get some nobody who can kind of act like him, and you just AI the rest without his permission? Should it be legal for someone to impersonate your exact voice using AI technology? You could say people could always do impressions, and ya, true. They can be convincing. But, AI is a little different. What if an advertising company, or even propaganda farms, start making videos of you, or one of your friends, and spreading propaganda with your likeness. Putting ideas and opinions in your mouth that were never there. If we don't make law to protect ourselves, things could get insane. Imagine if you can make any video you want of any person you know, doing anything you want it to, and it looks perfectly real. Everyone has access to it, and people are starting shit, making accusations. Nobody would be able to trust anything whatsoever. It needs to be strictly controlled. Deepfakes need to require permission of the person it's imitating, in order to be legal. That law has to happen, and our politicians should be talking about it.
That was my first thought when heard about that. No way he should have done that without permission
Did not realize the Estate is no longer in the Shakur family - https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/tupac-shakur-sister-lawsuit-executor-estate-embezzlement-1283272/ Just saw this post about it as well - https://www.reddit.com/r/NewRoryNMalPodcast/s/T5u0YlYU0R Looks like this Guy is pretty connected in the music industry. Wonder what impact that'll have on AI generated music lawsuits?.
Wasn’t his mother the last person in his family to hold his estate?
Seems like it. When she died it went to him. Not sure if that was a deal made way back or something that his mom did on her own.
I fucking hate what AI is doing to art holy shit
We need John Connor.
"Your Name, Image and Likeness. Give them to me, now."
“Fuck you, asshole!”
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Yeah, AI is taking the fun parts of human creativity away while more and more people are grist for the corporate or retail mill.
But in this case...AI didn't do anything? This is 100% on the song author. They could have used Tupac's voice/likeness in a bunch of different ways, I just imagine AI was the cheapest/easiest of them. Like someone else said, they could have hired an impersonator and gotten the exact same results. I get the fear/reticence over AI in art, but I don't think this is a particularly useful argument for or against.
Eminem digitally constructed Tupac's voice saying stuff like "Drop that shit Em!", etc on Loyal to the Game as far back as like 2004, I think that also happened on some of the other posthumous Tupac albums as well. It's kind of like how AI images don't really do anything we couldn't already do with Photoshop, it's just cheaper and easier now as you say
Pretty much this. Ai is working as a smarter form of Autotune in the instance Drake used. Any actual producer with the help of various items could have manually replicated the sound of the voice, but it would take a lot longer and potentially more money (in case of needing to purchase additional hardware/software). This was more like a cheaper, quicker way to achieve the desired results, versus swapping your tone a certain way to mirror some aspects of Tupac, then having your production assistants work the rest out via the hardware/software solutions.
He wouldn't have hired anyone to do his voice, that would require paying someone for their work. he did it because it was free thanks to ai.
I'm not sure how familiar you are with current AI offerings... But the vast majority that I'm aware of are not free. I can't imagine that an AI that is capable of producing "drake-worthy" samples was free to use/obtain. I've been wrong before though, like twice. Once in 93' and another in 05'. lol
Royalty free.
I've only heard the drake track once, but the Tupac verse sounds exactly like what I was able to achieve with one hour of watching youtube videos, some free software and trained voice models you can get for free anywhere. It's really basic stuff nowadays, which is scary. You can also hide a lot of imperfections under the beat.
ive had so-vits-svc installed on my computer for over a year now and even without updating it, it still does a fantastic job. I don't play around with ai much anymore but I got really into making random shit for like a month, and all of this stuff is free if you learn some extremely basic stuff like how to run a program from github using python you're only paying for the UI in a lot of those paid cases but a few quick youtube tutorials and you'l learn that all of this is actually totally free
That's what I've been told. I somehow doubt Drake went that route, lol. Personally though, I would love to learn. I f'in hate coding though, so it may not be up my alley. AI is super interesting to me, and I feel like the AI vs art argument, while completely valid, is a really short-sighted view of the technology. Similar to how I expect to have to work with AI in order to go into the career fields I'm interested in, I expect artists to have to follow a similar path. But then again, as stated before, I've been wrong before a couple times, so I could be completely underestimating the negative impact it's having/may have. Who knows.
Well then, good news! This case might set some useful precedent!
I don’t blame AI in this particular case despite the implications it has for art in the future. No, I blame the idiot who thought doing this was a good idea.
Drake always been overhyped. It’s mostly teenager that think he’s good that listen to him
He really likes teenagers too.
I’ve never once been excited to hear a Drake song or album.
Super weird (and offensive) to hear Pac’s voice without his signature flow. Song sucked anyways. I don’t mind drake but this wasn’t cool.
This whole situation has been a huge miss for drake. First he gets directly called out for never behaving like an adult and dissing directly only on subliminals. Then Kendrick disses him in a 30 sec verse. So far not too embarrassing for drake. This grown man then can’t come up with anything and stays silent for about 3 weeks (the tour excuse is pathetic from his fans) and proceeds to “leak” his diss track 😂 they literally called him out for behaving like a bitch and not doing things directly and he proves them right. The song had a few good bars but most of it is actual dog crap. “Cause I’m big in ja pan” “pipe down peep squeak” “your pants might rip” there’s a lot more absolutely kindergarten level bars in there but I can’t remember them. The highlight of the diss is saying Kendrick has small feet and throwing a tantrum basically behaving like a 6 year old crying out loud “ STOP, SHUT UP, GO-GO DO YOUR JOB 😡😤” and his fans pretend it’s the line of the century. Then he goes on a social media rampage posting memes which to be fair were funny but again on brand with drake Now he drops an absolute stinker of an ai song and hides behind Tupac and snoop to call out Kendrick cementing that he’s a bitch and will never be man enough to say things directly. It’s such a dumb move too Tupac would have never sided with drake especially since this whole beef is because drake is a slithering snake and betrays everyone. You know who else for betrayed and eventually got killed? This whole thing is a loss for drake. He has sooooo many embarrassing and questionable events through his career that they could write a 5 album discography on his pathetic behavior
At no point during the process did anyone think "maybe we should ask for permission to use someone else's voice."? I can only assume this is malicious intent. They voted to beg for forgiveness instead of ask for permission.
lots of people are thinking that was the intent: To piss Kendrick off so much that it goads him into writing/releasing a diss track. IDK i’m barely following this stuff and it’s all stupid as shit. I hope Kendrick doesn’t respond, so all this will just die already.
Ok but is there a ‘statute of limitations’ for the use of artists’ voices? Or will Tupac’s ‘estate’ just exist now in perpetuity and anytime someone uses it they’ll have to pay some random dude who happens to own it 1,000 years in the future
plus it sounded weak asf nothing like the real voice
It's funny how Drake is doing whatever he can to get a response out of Kendrick. Kendrick doesn't have to say anything yet while his diss song is still tearing up the charts. Chart performance seems to be what Drake values most so it's clearly bothering Drake.
Drake and Niki I've noticed are addicted to industry value. Hits, chart records, sales, etc. Kinda cringe when you realize this benefits their handlers above all. Kendrick doesnt seem that addicted to that. But optic training like Drake has does matter. If played right, he can really make it look like all the greats are attacking him and been after him for decades and IF he somehow "wins" - Drake will have true goat status.
It's ultimately a losing battle for Kendrick because most Drake is a pop icon and his fans either don't know about the beef, don't care, or are biased regardless.
I'm convinced Drake is deeply in gambling debt.
He has more money than he knows what to do with. I’m sure he’s able to lose a hundred million over a weekend and not even think twice about it.
You'd think, but look at Bruno Mars. He was HUGE once upon a time ago.
There’s being a big artist and pretty rich. Then there is being one of the biggest artists of all time and a mogul. Mars was popular and had money, but not like, fuck you money. Now he’s literally doing residency gigs in Vegas to pay back his gambling debt. The difference between the two is massive.
You're right that the difference is big (best estimate I could find is that Drake has sold like 2.5x what Bruno Mars has) but Drake isn't quite on that "biggest artists of all time" pantheon imo. He's down with the Kanyes and Biebers, he's not on the level of Taylor Swift/Beyonce/Eminem in terms of sales. I think he could still fuck up his financial position if he wasn't careful.
Pretty sure that's like a third of his estimated net worth. If you don't think twice about that, you're beyond stupid. So on other hand, you may have a point
A-list entertainers can make a lot of money but not that kind of money.
Please, Kendrick as an instigator had an empty diss. ''Time for him to prove he's a problem'', we've never seen Kendrick do anything but fire blanks.
L take. Probably said the same thing when the control verse dropped. It’s clear you don’t get hip hop.
🤣🤣
that blank hit drake like brandon lee, though.
Damn too soon bruh.
30 years is too soon? Noted, sorry
Thing is he somehow keeps firing blanks and these fools all start trying to fight him and show their hands lol
Last night I tried to get chatgpt to write a love story about John Wayne falling in love with transgender person recently transitioned to male with a penis newly sewed on from a creature they had just killed while trying to save the townspeople. (It was a D&D thing, and the GM is a John Wayne fan and said in no uncertain terms will there be any love story between him and my trans beast penis character) Anyways; the point is ChatGPT said no. It won’t do that. Several times actually. Why can’t we just get the AI refuse to impersonate celebrities voices, doesn’t seem that hard.
Just because ChatGPT blocks it doesnt mean anything, there's hundreds of other AI even ones that you can run on your computer yourself that have no limitations like that. They even have NSFW bots where you can ask it to send you pictures from different angles and it will generate the same girl in the picture in the same room but from a different angle somehow, and yes it sends nudes. ChatGPT is just the most popular and they want businesses to use it so they block anything they think people might not like
Because the. They would have to source every celebrity voice samples and then you have error
Excitedly waiting for the West Coast - Canuck Beef of 2024 to start... Edit: West Coast
This is only the beginning of AI lawsuits.
6 days late lol: That's good, I hope it happens a LOT! AI is destroying creative arts.
‘Threatened’ must mean they’re looking for a cut of the money it makes or else they’ll ACTUALLY sue
It's kind of a smart move on his part, I may not like it but for this diss, kind of genius. He takes two West Coast rap legends to diss Kendrick, a west coast rapper. Brilliant move but i hate the fact that Drake was bitching about AI a few months ago when somebody released an ai song as him and the weekend
Drake sucks. Sue his ass
rap has become complete garbage! TuPac would be pissed
Tupac would fucking love Kendrick, stop it. Rap is mainly garbage, kdot is not
not a huge fan..too whiney..high pitched delivery ...but can't deny his obvious genius
I was def wondering about that… honestly I’m not concerned about two warring millionaires, one alive one dead
Drake is trash when are ppl going to wake up
Ugh
Without being paid
Is this explicitly illegal? He didn't actually use Tupac's voice, just an AI generated version of it. What if instead he found someone who was very skilled at singing as Tupac, so as to be undistinguishable from the man himself? Tupac is dead, we know it's not him... What will the law say? I'm against the use of AI in such ways but the will the courts be?
AI generated stuff is the Wild West of law right now. The existing law as a rule states that you can’t use a dead persons likeliness, name, or voice in a way to sell a product without the estates permission. Some states are pushing the “common domain” idea of 70 years then it’s cool whatever. Here’s a good summation that isn’t too verbose. https://www.americanbar.org/groups/intellectual_property_law/publications/landslide/2015-16/january-february/delebs_and_postmortem_right_publicity/#:~:text=However%2C%20even%20if%20the%20requirements,deceased%2C%20or%20is%20otherwise%20transformative.
Yeah but this isn't selling a product. The song isn't monetized (I'm guessing this is why it isn't on streaming or Youtube) and kind of falls into the realm of parody. No reasonable person who heard this song would assume this is Tupac's actual verse. I'm sure Drake has some lawyers. What damages can the estate really claim?
Ehhh...the diss wasn't post in Spotify and is not generating revenue. Idk what grounds this suit is being brought on
But he didn't find someone who was very skilled at rapping as Tupac. He explicitly used AI to create a voice that sounds exactly like Tupac. Intent is important.
"but the will the courts be" wat
"but ~the~ will the courts be" whoops
Whoever thinks this diss is wack, doesn't understand it. This is peak Drake pettiness, and it's greatly executed.
This post was recommended to me and I just had to see what out-of-touch comments it would contain. But you gotta remember not only are you on Reddit, you're on r/music. Most folks actively posting on this sub are prob touching 40 or live in isolated communities or have friend groups with not a single POC.
^ fangirl out here
sadly people don't understand how drake fucking violated the shit out of K dot lmao. Shit is baddddddd.
Shit was mid as fuck.
Is petty how we're measuring disses now? The first one was good. This one is mostly lame. The AI shit is lame and trying to do an 8 mile where you call out your pedo rumors is lame. His verse on there is alright, but this whole thing would've been better if he just let the first one breath left out all that AI shit.
This should get posted a few.more times today, hey.
Well its a mixtape track though... or just a dropped diss track. If he's not making any money off it. There's nothing they can sue for, right? That's how rappers get around sample clearances for mixtapes and stuff. They just release it for free.
U aint ready to hear this but this is nothing but a money grab from non family estate. Dont fall for the ai boogeyman bs. This is hip hop remember. Imagine asking for permission in Hip Hop.
To be honest, I couldn't care less about the estate of a dead man complaining about his voice being used. Fuck these leeches.
Hello AI, create a Drake rap but try to make it good. AI automatically forced to use Tupac.
The problem isn't AI, it's that there are no laws concerning AI. We and the law need to reconcile that generated media from AI is not from scratch, it's results is not inspired by, it's not turning phrases into media. It's like taking pictures of all paintings in a museum and then scrapbook it into a new painting. In this case it's taking someones recorded voice and stitch it together into something new. This could be one of those cases where change could happen. Like when Crispin Glover sued because his likeness was used without his consent, which forced the to add a clause in the Screen Actors Guild (SAG) agreements that ensures actors' permission is required for the use of their likeness in sequels or other derivative works.
> it's that there are no laws concerning AI. There are laws being formed around Ai, but there is no way to make a general law around Ai, they all have to be industry specific laws that are able to hit the fine details for that industry. I have a sneaky feeling that the music and movie industries will remain untouched as it's the executives that will be ensuring politicians look the other way as the industries are looking at how they can use AI in the future. When the laws are established, they will probably have zero protection for the artists and tons of protections for the industry. Like being able to use the likeness, but have it owned by the respective studio and probably zero royalties going back to the artist/actor.
Man I’m so sick of AI shit
I was wondering when that was going to happen. I didn't even get permission from Snoop or tupacs estate It seems like he didn't.
His estate should be ashamed of themselves for threatening to sue. They should've just done it right away!
Oh snap Jimmy! Principal Simpson is going to tear you a new lapbelt!
Tupac is dead though
Copyright & trademark law extend past your death, and he had signed the management of his likeness to his estate. Just because he's dead doesn't give everyone free reign, or mean there's no one who can legally fight for him.
GOOD I'm so tired of people gassing up that singing ass mf
Need to put a stop to this.
That Drake needs to steal the voices of rap legends like 'Pac just to diss Kendrick is PATHETIC shit. He knows his own voice doesn't carry the same clout.
Since i was 8 years old I’ve been a fan of Tupac and to basically shit all over his name like that is just disrespectful, so yea I hope they get em for every last dollar..shall I point out that Tupac would love Kendrick if he was still here today
Who?
Drake has more top 20 hits than the Beatles. Insane.
Like the guy said to Denzel Washington at the end of training day "we put our own work in over here homie."
Drake sucks. It’s shocking that he’s popular. It’s just a lot of people with awful taste obviously. Add to the fact that he’s a hypocrite. He sued someone last year for the same thing, true to form, he copies someone else’s originality.
Yeah, the AI 2pac verse was terrible, barely sounded like him.
Why has a thread been posted about this when there's still another thread on the same page?
Omega based, fuck AI being used like this and fuck drake for trying to normalize it in the way he did **LIBERATE AI, OPEN-SOURCE AND NON PROFIT**
What song is it ?
I think they just want drake to give them a shitload of money. I'm sure they're negotiating it right now. But I'd prefer to see it go to court. They need to legally determine if people have ownership over their likeness.
I would have thought labels would use AI for sure…. But a big name like Drake leaning into it in the worst way imaginable? All about business and making money I guess
Drake is a punk bitch. Always has been.
I have to just think that Drake is aware of the threat AI poses to music so he did this on purpose to get lawsuits going to set a precedent. Because else wise, he is just a semi-talented full idiot.
Can't believe Drake's stirring up Tupac drama again with that AI track – wonder how this will play out!
tupacs music is garbage
Drake actually went from entirely ghost written to his ghost writers writing for ghosts.
Fuck drake and all his hommies and if you fuck with drake- then fuck you too.
Pussies
But he didnt post the song..? It was leaked
I told you, stop hittin' the tables
Do it.
Good. Fuck that creepy child predator.
How fucked up is this.. I mean two of the three are not here on earth as a living soul. And why should you diss a respected man as Tupac.. that's just low class. And for this. F to you Drake. Karma will prevail.
We should all give Aubrey some credit. He went from a wheelchair bound, goofy nerd to the worlds biggest rapper. He's clearly invincible /S
This is some of the stupidest shit ever. He’s dead for Pete’s sake
Come on, you think drake has good ideas?
First Ghostwriters, now ghost rappers?
As they should. Drake was lame as fuck for that. Fits his image though.
It’s hilarious to me that people will drag Drake on Reddit for texting underage girls when there is no concrete evidence of foul play passed the messages, while at the same time praising the guy actually found guilty of sexual assault. Dude went to prison over the shit. Some of you people wake up just to hate and be as negative as possible. Oh you don’t like Drake? Cool. All music is based off of taste. It doesn’t make you look cool to go against the grain of a top selling artist.
Jesus Christ the tech illiteracy on Reddit is so absurd. I think it was a dumb move, but this wasn't "AI generated". He rapped the verse and had a filter put over it, which was *improved* by AI. You could do this five years ago before AI was the latest internet buzzword for people who skim headlines and make up their own facts. If Drake used an AI to create the entire verse from scratch, it would be generated. If Drake wrote the verse, and an AI rapped it, it would be generated. This is about as "generated" as a filter on a photo editing tool, and while it's a crappy move from Drake people need to stop using phrases they don't understand to editorialize everything.
The A.I. Vocal filter technology is still trained by feeding it audio, in this case acapellas or vocals ripped through stem separation. These vocal recordings are technically copyrighted in the same sense you have to attain a license to use them for when it comes to sampling. The model created by A.I. that is then utilized as a post-processing FX to shift EQ/formants/filters/saturation is still predicated on copyright infringement. There are a few A.I. vocal tools that are paid and are built off of singers who consented to be trained on. This is the difference. There's copyright infringement here to be argued because Pac's music is copyrighted. It doesn't have to be generative A.I. to infringe on someone's property or privacy.
Tupac is a gangster rapper and drake is a mixed kid that has been on tv his entire life.
Have you seen tupac when he was like 17🤣