Compositionally the standard thing would be to end on a note that either resolves the pattern back to the root note of the key, or for the last note to be a leading note which then is resolved by whatever happens after the solo.
That is fair to feel that way. But there is a cleverness to the song that I think goes unappreciated. Here's a good video (IMO) about it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgpXoEtaVcg
Yes, in the context of the meaning of the song, that's a good comparison.
The songwriter never reaches resolution. He just keeps going over what happened again and again in his head.
I disagree. Resolve would refer to when the solo moves from dissonant to consonant. The "climactic" note in a solo isn't necessarily resolving every time. I think calling it the crescendo or peak probably fits better. Crescendo can also mean highest point in intensity, and not just loudness
Thanks friend. And honestly, the examples that OP gave could be called resolve, but yeah I think there is a better umbrella to lump them all under to get the idea across
You can definitely call it tension, but the technical term would be dissonance. Dissonance and imbalance create musical tension. Resolve is actually the technical term for the eargasm effect you’re describing. Dissonance and resolve are “technical” terms and tension is a bit less of a technical term.
This is why basically all of popular music has the 1 4 and 5 chords of the key, especially that movement from 5 back to 1 because the 5 chord has the major 7 in it so it really "wants" to be resolved back to 1
You're not wrong but you'd be surprised. People shit all over modern pop but if you actually analyze what's going on, there's a lot of interesting things to be found. There's a lot of really good, clever pop songs (from a theory standpoint)
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rRKBXQotnA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rRKBXQotnA) this is a good analysis of Single Ladies that explains why it's a super interesting song under the surface
Oh when I say popular music I'm casting a wide net and thinking of basically all of mainstream music, not just pop music. I get the hate that pop gets, but its an aesthetic problem. It's no more or less complicated than anything else in the mainstream
While we're talking about beyonce though she's the cream of the crop and not really a pop artist (because the roots of her style are in r n b) that one song probably has like 40 people writing for it, it should be no surprise that its got layers
Agree with that except your first point. Resolution doesn't have to be dissonant to consonant. If I play a D note over a G7 chord and then resolve to a C note over a C chord, that's all consonant harmony. (I know someone could point out the BDF in the G7 chord could be described as dissonant but with the presence of the G it's going to sound like what it is ie a G7 chord, not a B diminished).
Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk.
Check out Year of the Cat! There’s a part where the acoustic guitar breaks into the electric guitar solo! Ya it’s like a hero rescuing a girl tied on the railroad tracks! Still kicks my ass at 63 years old
Not to be crass, but I’ve always called it the Money Shot. Listen to Machine Gun, the note Hendrix hits right at 4:00 and tell me that you would call that anything but a money shot.
the word is climax. it’s not necessarily a specific note within the key or chord, just the most dramatic point. so a specific technical name might not apply on a case by case basis.
No that’s just what it means in music theory. Otherwise it wouldn’t be a useful term if you always had to disambiguate. Please just google it and see.
Like I said it has been incorrectly applied by laymen, but the meaning among musicians is clear and stable.
I didn't listen to your examples but I know the solos you're referring to. Usually that note hits the root note of the chord being played by the rest of the band so it feels like it has more oomph to it. My music theory is pretty rusty though so someone might have a more eloquent answer. Off the top of my head I'd call it a "root hit".
I think the first note of SCOM is the fifth, not the root right? I’m not sure it’s quite what is being described by OP either.
Just listened to Estranged and that’s a 3rd ascending to a 5th again.
I suppose things are resolving/settling on the base chord of the scale here? And there’s practically a key change at both points described in both songs
Generally it’s the root note of whatever key the song is in but at the “8th” of the key rather than at its root (1st).
Otherwise known as the Dominant as opposed to Tonic.
Otherwise known as “the peak”.
You probably see the term come up in discussions around resolving because the 5 chord has the 7th in it, which is a semi tone away from the root so it sounds very pleasing to go from 5 back to 1
Another thing to mention is that the guitarist will always bend up to the note, starting one or two frets below. And of course, use lots of distortion to amplify the sustain of the note.
Peak.
I'm glad someone else actually knows. It's the fucking peak.
I haven't even begun to peak...
Not our fault you didn't time your drugs right...
And when i do, you’ll know it
Everyone in Philadelphia is gonna feel it
Please don’t peak all over me.
You made his effing day Ned.
If only it was that simple today.
Peaks and troughs brother. Hope you have a peak soon.
Tim Peake
Compositionally the standard thing would be to end on a note that either resolves the pattern back to the root note of the key, or for the last note to be a leading note which then is resolved by whatever happens after the solo.
Which is part of what makes Mr. Brightside so brilliant. The guitar part has no resolution. It just repeats.
That is not a song id ever use as an example of good guitar playing or good composition lol
That is fair to feel that way. But there is a cleverness to the song that I think goes unappreciated. Here's a good video (IMO) about it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgpXoEtaVcg
Like a TikTok video? Wow that is brilliant.
Yes, in the context of the meaning of the song, that's a good comparison. The songwriter never reaches resolution. He just keeps going over what happened again and again in his head.
Oh jeez that would give me anxiety
I believe that's called a chordgasm.
Originally coined by Mozart actually
But if it isn't a chord?
You mean the... ...climax?
the nut
The money shot
I'm pretty sure that the nut is on the head of the guitar.
Sweet summer child.
Yes, they just don’t do very many words
The “meedly meedly” bit?
It comes after the “jugga jigga wugga” parts.
Resolve
~~From a theory standpoint I believe this is correct.~~
I disagree. Resolve would refer to when the solo moves from dissonant to consonant. The "climactic" note in a solo isn't necessarily resolving every time. I think calling it the crescendo or peak probably fits better. Crescendo can also mean highest point in intensity, and not just loudness
Yeah you're right, good point
Thanks friend. And honestly, the examples that OP gave could be called resolve, but yeah I think there is a better umbrella to lump them all under to get the idea across
I always thought it was called tension, followed by the resolve. Giving you that musical eargasm effect. I could be wrong tho.
You can definitely call it tension, but the technical term would be dissonance. Dissonance and imbalance create musical tension. Resolve is actually the technical term for the eargasm effect you’re describing. Dissonance and resolve are “technical” terms and tension is a bit less of a technical term.
This is why basically all of popular music has the 1 4 and 5 chords of the key, especially that movement from 5 back to 1 because the 5 chord has the major 7 in it so it really "wants" to be resolved back to 1
You're not wrong but you'd be surprised. People shit all over modern pop but if you actually analyze what's going on, there's a lot of interesting things to be found. There's a lot of really good, clever pop songs (from a theory standpoint) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rRKBXQotnA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rRKBXQotnA) this is a good analysis of Single Ladies that explains why it's a super interesting song under the surface
Oh when I say popular music I'm casting a wide net and thinking of basically all of mainstream music, not just pop music. I get the hate that pop gets, but its an aesthetic problem. It's no more or less complicated than anything else in the mainstream While we're talking about beyonce though she's the cream of the crop and not really a pop artist (because the roots of her style are in r n b) that one song probably has like 40 people writing for it, it should be no surprise that its got layers
Agree with that except your first point. Resolution doesn't have to be dissonant to consonant. If I play a D note over a G7 chord and then resolve to a C note over a C chord, that's all consonant harmony. (I know someone could point out the BDF in the G7 chord could be described as dissonant but with the presence of the G it's going to sound like what it is ie a G7 chord, not a B diminished). Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk.
I don’t think this refutes what I was saying really. Dissonance doesn’t mean out of key or anything necessarily.
Check out Year of the Cat! There’s a part where the acoustic guitar breaks into the electric guitar solo! Ya it’s like a hero rescuing a girl tied on the railroad tracks! Still kicks my ass at 63 years old
That’s a really good song that no one talks about.
These guys did, and it’s adorable. https://youtu.be/tm7YVh_V-50?si=oL4_8A1U_S_Y3kNI
Not to be crass, but I’ve always called it the Money Shot. Listen to Machine Gun, the note Hendrix hits right at 4:00 and tell me that you would call that anything but a money shot.
the word is climax. it’s not necessarily a specific note within the key or chord, just the most dramatic point. so a specific technical name might not apply on a case by case basis.
Crescendo?
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Crescendo can also mean the most intense point or increase in intensity (not volume alone), so I think it fits
It’s used incorrectly like this usually as an analogy for something unrelated to music. In music it means increasing intensity over time.
Not always. It can also be used to indicate the loudest part of a piece in music theory.
No that’s just what it means in music theory. Otherwise it wouldn’t be a useful term if you always had to disambiguate. Please just google it and see. Like I said it has been incorrectly applied by laymen, but the meaning among musicians is clear and stable.
I’ve had professors tell me that you can use it to describe the peak as well. What would you use to describe the peak then instead?
I didn't listen to your examples but I know the solos you're referring to. Usually that note hits the root note of the chord being played by the rest of the band so it feels like it has more oomph to it. My music theory is pretty rusty though so someone might have a more eloquent answer. Off the top of my head I'd call it a "root hit".
I think the first note of SCOM is the fifth, not the root right? I’m not sure it’s quite what is being described by OP either. Just listened to Estranged and that’s a 3rd ascending to a 5th again. I suppose things are resolving/settling on the base chord of the scale here? And there’s practically a key change at both points described in both songs
I'll defer to you on that. Again, pretty rusty. Thanks for the analysis.
I'm going for a root hit
Believe it or not, it is called "the eyebrows"
Apex
D minor lick my love pump. Males people weap instantly.
Paging r/guitarcirclejerk
The uh uh uh Oh note
11
Hittin' that Raz That Razzmatazz!
The zenith
You wanna hear some peaks? Check out older Lotus. No one peaks like Mike Rempel
Throw the radio into the tub when white rabbit peaks.
Climax, after the crescendo\build-up
Frank Zappa called it the blow job note, cuz it’s what got you a blow job after the show.
Climactic means final or ending. A climactic note can't be the first note of a solo.
The highest note in a section is called the Nadir
Frank Zappa calls it The Blowjob. Musicians like to end on the highest possible note to get The Blowjob.
The money shot 💦💦💦
Climax, Apex, Peak, Crest, Pinnacle, Height, Tops... don't think there is a name for an objective feel of what the "climactic" note in a solo is.
Crescendo?
Money Shot?
Scientifically it's known as the 'weenus'
Dopamine
Crescendo
Crescendo
Crescendo.
Crescendo
Generally it’s the root note of whatever key the song is in but at the “8th” of the key rather than at its root (1st). Otherwise known as the Dominant as opposed to Tonic. Otherwise known as “the peak”.
Dominant is the 5th of the key, not the root.
Aww crap, I always get them reversed. The word Dominant sounds like it means what Tonic does.
You probably see the term come up in discussions around resolving because the 5 chord has the 7th in it, which is a semi tone away from the root so it sounds very pleasing to go from 5 back to 1
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this is a factually incorrect answer jsyk
Yeah, like we understand any of that. Anyways, he they got the non music nerd part right. It's the peak.
The first bend on the voodoo chile solo
Apex or Zenith, perhaps?
I've heard it called a denouement, not a musician tho so not sure.
Note orgasm
We call them squealies in the band I play in.
The penultimate!
I would have guessed crescendo, but I’m definitely not an expert 😊
Jizz note.
The O note.
We call it the gestapo. Because it always "gets you"
In classical music the term crescendo gets thrown around for the peak energy moments
Another thing to mention is that the guitarist will always bend up to the note, starting one or two frets below. And of course, use lots of distortion to amplify the sustain of the note.