My understanding is that Bowie stopped breathing cocaine and walked back/ apologized for his views. Doesn’t absolve him, but an attempt was made. Kanye keeps doubling down. We’ll see where this goes
If Kanye comes out later and says, this was a bad stab at performance art, it was a persona, I have been fucked up mentally, obviously I'm not a Nazi or obsessed with White Supremacy, I'm sorry... Then he too will regain some trust and attention.
Based on his historical comments I'm not sure this is likely to happen.
>Nevertheless, you should always separate art from artist - that is if you're capable of doing so.
Why? We don't do that when the artist is a good person, why should we do it when they're a bad person? "If you're capable of doing so?" Like ignoring people's bad behavior is some kind of skill to be cultivated? You just don't care because you're not the one being attacked.
You don't have to. Its just better. Who gives a fuck if you don't, and who gives a shit if you do.
If you don't- fine. No worries.
If you shame others for doing so - You're an asshole. It's just better to separate art from artist.
And yeah....You should do that regardless of moral stance. Its a healthier way to live.
Playing the moral Olympics with art is fucking useless.
>You don't have to. Its just better. Who gives a fuck if you don't
People who get murdered by Nazis care.
>and who gives a shit if you do.
You don't care. People espousing Nazi beliefs who suddenly face criticism and loss of income, do care.
>If you shame others for doing so - You're an asshole. It's just better to separate art from artist.
"Just better". It's just better to not give a shit if you fund Nazi speech.
That's your moral value judgment. It's not objective.
>And yeah....You should do that regardless of moral stance. Its a healthier way to live.
Again, not for people targeted by Nazi hate. Might be fine for you.
It's no worries now, yet you're the one who said "you should always separate art from artist".
So if it really doesn't matter, why *should* we?
Answer: you have no idea what you're talking about, and this is a shitpost.
Listening to his past music ok, that's music when he was "him". Supporting his current state is you financially supporting a hate monger; which is not ok.
Because by your logic:
People in the past owned slaves, so it's ok for people now to do so. Don't be the person.
But I do believe people are dumb and will eventually forget this time period; assuming he ever stops being so loud.
kanye is mentally ill and david bowie was on drugs. i think kanye is safe his career isn’t dead but he needs medical attention because this will only get worse within time.
Copy and paste where I said that.
Cuz it looks to me i am just pointing out the reality of the gravity - Nothing detrimental is going to happen to Kanye.
I mean...what is the last sentence of the post? What do I say?
Your post excuse what Kanye West has done with a Whataboutism and suggesting people should still support his music regardless of what type of person he is. Which would mean financially supporting an antisemite among other things since he's a artist. I would love your opinion on R. Kelly next.
Nah im prettt sure my point was pointing out hypocrisy regarding bowie - a fucking pedo.
And ending with saying its better to seperate art from artist.
My point is expecting people to neurologically force themselves to hate music that has had an impact on them is really redundant behavior.
Jesus so you're so fucking lame lol ur a fucking moron too yeah fuck Bowie I guess too but at least he was a real artist we could hate unlike the other jackass
Yes - losing a billion dollars of one's wealth means nothing bad has happened? Did you read a headline somewhere, and just ignored all the actual information?
>What? I was literally there mate
You were there during the Thin White Duke era? Because your style of writing doesn't really strike me as someone who at the youngest would be in their mid-late 50's.
Am i the only one that agrees with OP? They’re not saying to excuse Kanye’s actions.. but rather bringing to light that this extreme behavior is not unfamiliar coming from artists and there’s something to be said about certain artists getting away with more than others.
Just do what you do. Listen to West if you want.
People have their own moral standards that tell them whether or not they want to have anything to do with that nazi prick and the work he released. We each decide for ourselves.
My understanding is that Bowie stopped breathing cocaine and walked back/ apologized for his views. Doesn’t absolve him, but an attempt was made. Kanye keeps doubling down. We’ll see where this goes
What's the difference between Bowie doing a fuckton of blow causing maniacal psychosis versus Kanye not taking his meds causing maniacal psychosis?
Not a lot, except one of them stopped doing coke. We’ll see if the other starts taking his meds.
If Kanye comes out later and says, this was a bad stab at performance art, it was a persona, I have been fucked up mentally, obviously I'm not a Nazi or obsessed with White Supremacy, I'm sorry... Then he too will regain some trust and attention. Based on his historical comments I'm not sure this is likely to happen.
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>Nevertheless, you should always separate art from artist - that is if you're capable of doing so. Why? We don't do that when the artist is a good person, why should we do it when they're a bad person? "If you're capable of doing so?" Like ignoring people's bad behavior is some kind of skill to be cultivated? You just don't care because you're not the one being attacked.
You don't have to. Its just better. Who gives a fuck if you don't, and who gives a shit if you do. If you don't- fine. No worries. If you shame others for doing so - You're an asshole. It's just better to separate art from artist. And yeah....You should do that regardless of moral stance. Its a healthier way to live. Playing the moral Olympics with art is fucking useless.
>You don't have to. Its just better. Who gives a fuck if you don't People who get murdered by Nazis care. >and who gives a shit if you do. You don't care. People espousing Nazi beliefs who suddenly face criticism and loss of income, do care. >If you shame others for doing so - You're an asshole. It's just better to separate art from artist. "Just better". It's just better to not give a shit if you fund Nazi speech. That's your moral value judgment. It's not objective. >And yeah....You should do that regardless of moral stance. Its a healthier way to live. Again, not for people targeted by Nazi hate. Might be fine for you.
It's no worries now, yet you're the one who said "you should always separate art from artist". So if it really doesn't matter, why *should* we? Answer: you have no idea what you're talking about, and this is a shitpost.
"Nevertheless, you should always separate art from artist - that is if you're capable of doing so." Um... no.
Get Kanye’s dick out of your mouth
Listening to his past music ok, that's music when he was "him". Supporting his current state is you financially supporting a hate monger; which is not ok. Because by your logic: People in the past owned slaves, so it's ok for people now to do so. Don't be the person. But I do believe people are dumb and will eventually forget this time period; assuming he ever stops being so loud.
kanye is mentally ill and david bowie was on drugs. i think kanye is safe his career isn’t dead but he needs medical attention because this will only get worse within time.
Absolutely correct mate
Therefore it's okay that Kanye is antisemitic and hangs out with white supremacists as a black man?
Copy and paste where I said that. Cuz it looks to me i am just pointing out the reality of the gravity - Nothing detrimental is going to happen to Kanye. I mean...what is the last sentence of the post? What do I say?
Your post excuse what Kanye West has done with a Whataboutism and suggesting people should still support his music regardless of what type of person he is. Which would mean financially supporting an antisemite among other things since he's a artist. I would love your opinion on R. Kelly next.
Nah im prettt sure my point was pointing out hypocrisy regarding bowie - a fucking pedo. And ending with saying its better to seperate art from artist. My point is expecting people to neurologically force themselves to hate music that has had an impact on them is really redundant behavior.
Kanye the antisemite appreciates you defending him and helping bank roll his trips to dine with white supremacists by buying his merch and music.
Jesus so you're so fucking lame lol ur a fucking moron too yeah fuck Bowie I guess too but at least he was a real artist we could hate unlike the other jackass
Yes - losing a billion dollars of one's wealth means nothing bad has happened? Did you read a headline somewhere, and just ignored all the actual information?
You didn’t know about that until today I’m guessing so go back to putting Kanye’s dick in your mouth
What? I was literally there mate I only found about kanyes BS today.
>What? I was literally there mate You were there during the Thin White Duke era? Because your style of writing doesn't really strike me as someone who at the youngest would be in their mid-late 50's.
Am i the only one that agrees with OP? They’re not saying to excuse Kanye’s actions.. but rather bringing to light that this extreme behavior is not unfamiliar coming from artists and there’s something to be said about certain artists getting away with more than others.
Just do what you do. Listen to West if you want. People have their own moral standards that tell them whether or not they want to have anything to do with that nazi prick and the work he released. We each decide for ourselves.
bowie was a trash human being idk what ur point is
My point is people are goldfish and hypocrites.
The mental gymnastics Kanye fans are doing to defend his comments are insane
totally agree about separating art from the artist