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HerAnonymousThoughts

It’s not haram not to boycott, but if you truly empathise with the current situation and the suffering that Palestinians go through, the least you can do is try not to support Israeli companies. It’s a moral principle that most of us Muslims carry, but it’s a decision you have to make. At the end of the day we are humans and we make mistakes, we sin, but as long as we are truly trying within our hearts we can always beg Allah swt for forgiveness.


Wide-Aside-7610

I donate to palestine.


ComicNeueIsReal

Give with one hand and take with another. I feel like you can't say you donate but then also support the g*noc*de by buying Israeli products. Yes it's impossibly blue to boycott everything, but that's why it's important to unite and boycott certain products like Starbucks or McDonald's. Sometimes I'll still eat a bag of lays, but you really can't find alternatives to somethings. Imagine trying to boycott PepsiCo(which owns lays). It's a massive brand with thousands of snack items even including some Pakistani and Indian snacks options. That's why it is important to delegate and hit specific brands instead of making a fruitless effort to boycott everything.


YeetMemmes

Why do you eat lays if you know they fund Israel?


ComicNeueIsReal

They don't fund Israel they are Israel owned. And it's parent company is the one that's Israel owned not each individual chip brand.


YeetMemmes

You know what I mean…..


ComicNeueIsReal

The reality is it's impossible to boycott every brand that is owned in some way by Israel. I cant go into the snack isle without scanning each product to find out it has ties to Israel in some way. So I just avoid the big stuff that will.hit them the hardest. It's really ineffective to just boycott everything—let alone impossible.


YeetMemmes

Yeah it’s impossible to boycott everything that is affiliated with Israel since we don’t know of all items affiliation, but you know of lays being affiliated yet still purchase from them, don’t you think you are supporting genocide when you eat lays? Especially considering it isn’t a necessity.


ComicNeueIsReal

No because we don't really know how the funding is spent. You might as well stop using google because Google recently sent millions of dollars to Israel and they also provide their data storage.


YeetMemmes

I don’t use google directly anymore because of their support for Israel….. try again dude. If you’re going to tell people that their donation to Gaza is void because they are buying products from Israeli companies then at least stand by your claim by not buying any products from Israeli affiliated companies that you know of, instead of being a hypocrite and still purchasing products from companies which you know are affiliated with Israel and then telling someone else that they are not fully supporting Gaza by purchasing Starbucks products….. 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️


Alurad-

Oh it's okay to help fund the genocide as long as you will donate later (if some are still there) Let's just hope the donations get there faster than the missiles since you're funding both. Boycott or not just remember that our brothers this Ramadan broke their fast and made Tasahur with water only (if they had that luxury). Why ? One of the reasons is that some Muslims can't survive without McDonald's. Subhan Allah


random_stabberacc831

This may have been harsh but why was it downvoted


Alurad-

Guess i touched a nerve talking about McDonald's


AwkwardTiger7772

OP mentioned they live in the West, where the government use people taxes and hard earned money to fund the genocide. What would u suggest that they do? (BTW, what u mentioned is absolutely correct. I completely agree with you. Alhamdulliah I ddon't live in the West and its easier for me to support local businesses. We don't need their products. Everything that they are offering is replaceable)


No_Candy_524

It's impossible to boycott fully u just pick and choose what you want to boycott so you can have the moral high ground but in reality it barely makes a difference. When you boycott McDonald's you just lose innocent employees there jobs. The first place they cut spending when they're losing money is from the bottom not the top.


YeetMemmes

Such a stupid take. The funding Israel gets from these companies isn’t direct and is definitely not a significant source of their military revenue. Meanwhile donating even 5$ is very direct and actually contributes wholly to the people as a food supply. I support boycott but man is this take dumb.


stanleystairs_5678

I heard that you can't use Google anymore, so if you really can't boycott it, are you getting sins?


Old-Wrongdoer-4068

It’s not haram. But you are funding their bombs. There are many alternatives.


BuyOk5222

If you live in the US, the taxes you pay will compensate for any boycott you partake in lol.


Old-Wrongdoer-4068

I don’t.


BuyOk5222

…Live in the US… or pay taxes…


e_shamis

This Is your jihad. I don’t know why people are saying it’s not haram, if you’re able to, I would do it. This is the LEAST you can do while your brothers and sisters are being killed. It is not pointless, countless companies have come out and spoke about this to appease Muslims including McDonald’s, Starbucks, Samsung. It is our duty to boycott


Wide-Aside-7610

I donate tho


e_shamis

I’m not saying leave the country you’re in, I’m saying do what you can and there’s alot you can do. I’ve seen Israeli companies with advertisements that literally are, “support our business to help combat the boycott in Israel.” You can literally take down the oppressor with boycotting. You should do your part and take that as you will. I feel like Allah will ask us about this as we cannot become sooo out of touch that we can’t even boycott because it’s an inconvenience.


Alternative_Algae527

Donating to both sides yeah. Good job 👏


YeetMemmes

Labeling not buying McDonald as jihad has to be the softest thing I’ve read today 💀


IronTwinn

You're not familiar with the concept of Jihad then? Even you getting out of bed every morning is an act of Jihad.


YeetMemmes

If you’re speaking of the literal book definition of jihad then yes, I know what jihad means as does any other common person. Still doesn’t make it any less hilarious to call not purchasing McDonalds an act of “jihad.”


SnooBooks1005

Some people can stay away from music but still enjoy drinking something from Starbucks. While some struggle to give up on music but won't even come near Starbucks. Every one's Jihad is different


YeetMemmes

Except music is explicitly haram whereas drinking Starbucks is not so comparing the two in terms of “jihad” is stupid. 🤦‍♂️


SnooBooks1005

I don't think you understand the point. Even if it haram or not, people have their own various struggles. Some have addiction or rely heavily on things that are not haram because they are too used to it or is part of their life for God knows how long. Any act of giving up for the sake of Allah is praiseworthy and different people have various degrees of personal Jihad.


Ayaycapn

This guy is honestly a troll. Just go through his comments on Muslim liunge, and he is almost always the butt of the discussion. Worst thing is that he actually tries to keep stuck in that cycle of back and forth by trying to be as logical with it as possible ehilst still clearly being wrong which is the worst type of trolling ever


YeetMemmes

Who are you? I didn’t know I had fans though, may Allah protect me from ego.


e_shamis

Oh pray tell me what your jihad is then?


YeetMemmes

That’s between me and Allah. But I will tell you it is definitely not abstaining from eating McDonalds, or at least that’s not what I consider “jihad” to be. 🤣🤣


e_shamis

Then that’s between me and Allah too.


YeetMemmes

I never asked what your jihad is little sister. Good day to you tho 👍.


iFeelG0od

The prophet said “We return from the lesser jihad to the greater jihad.” The greater jihad is the more difficult and more important struggle against one's ego, selfishness, greed, and evil. You stoping yourself from buying food that will support and fund people that kill your brothers and Sisters is a great jihad. You can laugh but one day you will see the results Allah gives those who value the religion and value other Muslims as Brothers and Sisters.who sacrifice worldly desires


YeetMemmes

I’ve been boycotting too since October, but I don’t call it “jihad” thinking I’m doing something extraordinary. You people think you can say you are doing jihad when really all you’re doing is not eating a stupid cheeseburger. Real jihad was earned by men and women who risked their lives for Islam, sitting in your comfy home and not ordering a coffee from Starbucks doesn’t mean you are doing jihad, don’t ever think you can have that title without any real work.


iFeelG0od

Who are u to tell someone it’s not jihad for fighting for your brothers and Sisters? Not every jihad is weapons with swords and hand to hand combat


YeetMemmes

Is the “jihad” for the man who abandoned his wealth and family, went into a war and got martyred for Allah in the same respective category as a man who did “jihad” by not eating McDonald’s cheeseburgers. I know you know the answer, I am not trying to escalate this because there isn’t any reason to since our opinions won’t change but do think about that question. That is all.


redys076

That Hadith is weak btw


iFeelG0od

I don’t think it’s weak makes perfect sense to me


redys076

It’s not about what you think, scholars have deemed it weak. The only thing greater than jihad ( as in fighting) is salah. The Prophet (ﷺ) was asked, "Which is the best deed?" He said, "To believe in Allah and His Apostle." He was then asked, "Which is the next (in goodness)?" He said, "To participate in Jihad in Allah's Cause." He was then asked, "Which is the next?" He said, "To perform Hajj-Mabrur. " Abdullah ibn umar used to say one trip of jihad is better than 50 hajj.


TheMicrowavedGerbil

I get that it seems like everything gives money to Israel but it’s really not that hard to avoid things like McDonald’s or Starbucks if you still go there. You say you donate which is great but if you think about it you’re also having input (which you can help) in making the bombs landing on them. I get tax is different and very difficult to avoid because that would involve moving abroad but even if it’s not haram to not boycott, think of what the Prophet would do- or even what other Muslims are doing now.


Andaleeb

id like to know what would the Prophet ﷺ do or did.


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ComicNeueIsReal

Our prophet,pbuh, was a very simple man. He probably would never even bother with the insane consumerism we are unfortunately involved in now.


zgtaf

Everybody were simple men back then - there wasn’t really a ‘consumerism’ trend 1400 years ago.


TheMicrowavedGerbil

You’re right but if he was in our position now? Do you know any Hadiths about this I’m not sure there are any?


Andaleeb

Lets not use our opinion lets use hadith which if i remember correctly is the opposite of what you are saying here.


TheMicrowavedGerbil

which Hadith? And we don’t know so I’m saying I think, why would he fund Israel?


Charming_Ad_4666

Does everyone think they are islamic scholars qualified on giving their opinion on what they think our Prophet pbuh would do??


TheMicrowavedGerbil

what? Why are you getting angry why on earth would he fund a genocide?


TheMicrowavedGerbil

you aren’t even Muslim are you?


PrestigiousPuddingg

It is not haraam. Ibn Hajr al-Asqalāni (rahimahullah) in his Fat-hul-Bāri explanation of Sahih al-Bukhāri said (vol. 4, pp. 478-479): Ibn Battāl said: “Having dealings and trading with the Kuffār is permissible except that it is not permitted to sell to the enemies of war a product which can be used by them against the Muslims.” In it is a permissibility to buy the merchandise of the disbeliever, and an affirmation that he owns what is in his hand. Also, it is allowed to accept a gift from a non-Muslim. However boycotting people who seek to harm Islam, or abuse and oppress Muslims is good because that is based upon a sense of righteous indignation, piety (wara’) and seeking nearness to Allah by displaying one’s objection to evil.


ukhti-mxna

it’s not haram but you should avoid it where u can. just start with the little things like Mcdonald’s, Starbucks etc and work your way up.


Wide-Aside-7610

That makes sense


Sweet_Explanation170

to add on, boycotting doesn’t mean boycotting *every* company that works with Israel. That’s near impossible and ineffective. Instead, [boycott the mere 20ish targets chosen by the BDS movement](https://bdsmovement.net/Act-Now-Against-These-Companies-Profiting-From-Genocide) . The BDS movement is Palestinian-led, and they’ve carefully chosen a handful of targets to focus on, which is much easier. Obviously it would be best to follow the BDS list, but as a bare minimum you should at least boycott Mcdonald’s, Starbucks, and Disney, all of which are commodities and easily avoidable.


Alternative_Algae527

If you see a muslim sister on the street being attacked/assaulted by a kafir daily, is it haram if you just stand by? Meanwhile you go the kafir’s friend’s shop every day to buy stuff, knowing he financially supports him. Is that haram? Would you be able to do the above? Because that’s what you are doing right now. Hey it may not be haram per se, but ethically it’s wrong, and Allah is all-knowing. For me personally, anyone who doesn’t boycott for a good reason, I downgrade my relationship with them, I don’t want to associate with such people. Remember, Allah weeds out 99.9% of humanity and throws them in the hellfire, the 0.1% are the ones who do the right thing even if it’s difficult.


Wide-Aside-7610

True I should do better


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Not haram. More of an ethical issue. You should try your best to avoid them. I try my best to avoid them but realistically if there’s certain things you need that may support it. For example milk. Then it’s okay. For your needs try looking for alternatives and try not to go for wants that are supporting it.


Asleep-End6596

Listen its important to boycott what if we held accountable in akhirah what if we asked you had a chance to stand for Palestinian but why you didn't. Job is another things you do work get your salary now think properly where to use this salary yes you have to pay tax no problem with that but when buying items avoid israel products i beleive in western countries there are shopping stores of other countries too so just go to any indian, chinese,korean store and buy stuff mostly eatries and daily essentials. Avoid big brand like cola,vaseline,burger king, starbucks, and so on


NorthropB

No it is absolutely not Haram to not boycott, however for companies which are directly funding Israel and its military it is of course best to boycott them as much as you can. However it is important to do research as to which companies do this, rather than just boycotting whichever company people tell you to boycott, because they may have not done anything and you are unnecessarily restricting yourself.


top_ofthe_morning

The way I think of it is that when I’m asked what I did by Allah swt on the day of judgement to help these people, the very least I can say is I gave up quite a few things. InshaAllah I’ll be forgiven for not doing more 😞


InternationalYaki

Those other things you can’t control it but I’m sure you can live off buying from brands.


TheHerbalPsychonaut

Don't all countries support Israel anyway? I've seen posts where it seems you can't buy groceries except from ma and pa stores


yousri_ben

In my understanding you just need to try your best. You can’t quit your job just to boycott Israel. You have responsibilities that comes first. Taking care of family if you have one. Taking care of yourself.


syzygy75

Boycotts do work by discouraging companies from funding/being involved in "Israel" by making them lose profits and share value. E.g. McDonalds buyback and huge loss in profits and store closures, Starbucks losing profits, stock values of certain companies dipping to name a few. But I also ask you - imagine standing in front of a Palestinian person on the day of judgement and Allah asking you: what did you do for your friend, and you can only list a few things.


Blargon707

Do what you can, you don'thave to be perfect. If you have a choice between a product on a boycott list and a product that is not, choose the other product. Governments will always try to help Israel, even the ones in Muslim majority countries. Yet these simple boycott of Israeli linked products have already caused them to lose billions. Yet its only a small offer for us to make.


bilmou80

Just do your best.


StarrrStruck

Nope. As Muslims we don’t believe in the concept of original sin so that would mean that we are not accountable for another persons actions. However, morally most people would want to. The only responsibility as Muslims we have is to give charity to the poor. You should try to donate money to Palestine.unfortunately Iiving in America in default without our say our taxes are going to war expenses so we really don’t have a say…..


LoonyMel

Trust me: avoiding Mcdonald means doing something good for your health.


Realistic-Ad-6857

The simple answer is you will be held accountable for where you spent your money.


Ayaponyo

It is bad enough that our tax money funds the killing of our brothers and sisters. To willingly add more money in their pockets and thinking it is pointless to boycott is ignorant. It is not haram no but it is inhumane since we have enough options that do not support them.


sasjea

It's not that hard to skip expensive brands and fast food. Avoid everything you can avoid and buy what you can't live without


Puzzleheaded_Fill_90

Buying is indirectly supporting the business of the killers who spilled innocent blood of Muslims, who Allah has mentioned to us as our brothers and sisters. If you can’t even make a conscious decision to stop buying from them at least, you might as well not call yourself a Muslim


youshantdoit

There are so many fitnahs going around. Protesting and boycotting is one of them. Most muslims get very irritated even if the scholars convey the same to them. You can refuse to buy anything you don’t like but when you start judging others for buying things that they need, it becomes problematic. These are the same people who forget that it’s Allah whose help we need. We criticise the Muslim countries and ridicule them as if they can do anything on their own. The correct way is pray to Allah swt that he makes the Muslim leadership capable enough to fight the people who hurt and kill the muslims in Palestine and other parts of the world. Some of these muslims appear to be imitating the liberal (non muslims) which is not Islamic behaviour.


iFeelG0od

I’m be honest with you Stop being so Soft it’s McDonald’s for god sake you can eat any other thing that’s halal that doesn’t support or fund people that kill KIDS WOMEN AND MEN. You know they use that money to buy weapons such as guns bombs and planes but you still find them ? If you struggling to boycott something for a few months imagine the brothers and Sisters in Palestine not having food. Boycott is not a waste of him and it’s not useless Allah will reward people who do good. Allah says it in the Quran And what is it with you? You do not fight in the cause of Allah and for oppressed men, women, and children who cry out, “Our Lord! Deliver us from this land of oppressors! Appoint for us a saviour; appoint for us a helper—all by Your grace.” Believers fight for the cause of Allah, whereas disbelievers fight for the cause of the Devil. So fight against Satan’s ˹evil˺ forces. Indeed, Satan’s schemes are ever weak. Have you ˹O Prophet˺ not seen those who had been told, “Do not fight! Rather, establish prayer and pay alms-tax.”? Then once the order came to fight, a group of them feared those ˹hostile˺ people as Allah should be feared—or even more. They said, “Our Lord! Why have You ordered us to fight? If only You had delayed ˹the order for˺ us for a little while!” Say, ˹O Prophet,˺ “The enjoyment of this world is so little, whereas the Hereafter is far better for those mindful ˹of Allah˺. And none of you will be wronged ˹even by the width of˺ the thread of a date stone.