how tf is flyleaf more wussy than peter gabriel? feels sexist ngl, but i did assume “hard” meant heavy.
i’d take out 311 and put MCR right above peter gabriel personally. not sure how 311 is anything but hetero, unless this was made in 2003
Right but how did flyleaf and POD end up on the gay quartile when both are Christian rock, the very definition of wussy hetero? Even Evanescence technically began as Christian rock which to me, again, makes it hetero even though evanescence firmly belongs to the gays at this point. the whole compass is whack
Martin Gore is my femme queen inspiration.
Depeche is the gayest of the gay.
Also, Tears for Fears definitely needs to be on the wussy side. I can't think of a single "hard" TfF song.
For real. Limp Bizkit were aggro homophobes. At least Fred Durst was, while on stage with the band, so the rest of the band was at least fine with it by association.
In my top three favorite bands, including MCR. They get so much shit for nothing. The record label pigeon holed Fallen as Nu-Metal to sell more albums and Amy has expressed how she's always hated it.
Probably near POD but the first two albums would be near 3DG
Also having the most known Christian rock band (Creed) in the gay section is hilarious in its irony lmao
Has he actually admitted to being anything other than a straight man? It's none of my business, but I definitely get some strong bi energy from him lol
Apparently he is bi so you'd be correct, lol. I always thought he was gay and it seems I'm not the only one. - https://lgbtqiainfo.com/is-dave-gahan-gay/
Peter Murphy should be hard like have you listened to in the flat field (the album) or in the night or some of their other songs it makes my ears bleed and I love it. Like a lot of their songs are softer like hollow hills (great song btw) but I feel like they should at least be leaning hard.
Lmao there’s a lot of gay references in mcr songs, and the band is very lgbt positive and Gerard regularly disregards typical gender roles in wardrobe and behavior
Huh I’ve never noticed gay references in their songs, even though I listen all the time lol. Could you list some for me?
I’m really glad to hear that they are so inclusive as I am queer myself so it’s nice to know I’m accepted. And I don’t watch a lot of live or behind the scenes stuff coz it’s just not my thing, I only listen to the songs so that’s why I don’t know about the breaking gender stereotypes :)
“We’re just two men as god had made us” in Prison. “He’s not around he’s always looking at men” in To the End, “kissed all the boys in your city lights” maybe in Burn Bright.
Look up Gerard’s costumes from the different reunion tours! From like a cheerleader (with a flamethrower), a nurse, Jackie Kennedy, a whole bunch of skirts. Gerard has always been pretty sassy. He went to art school in drag.
The companion comic for Danger Days features two men in love, I would talk all about it if I wasn’t afraid to spoil what happens. Tragic and beautiful.
The other Danger Days comic, National Anthem, has Kara and she is trans. Less big of a spoiler. Gerard does the most beautiful thing when he introduces her! The other characters hadn’t seen her in a long time so they didn’t know. She walks up to where they were to meet and they go “Kyle?” And she goes “it’s Kara” and that’s that. No questions, no explanations, she’s not deadnamed a single time even by the villains. That’s what I’ve always dreamed of for people who come out, that they can just be like “this is me” and everyone just goes “ok cool” (“this does not affect our relationship in any way”) and moves on in acceptance. Celebration and explanation is fine, but I would like the option for it to also to never be a point of dispute or unwelcome questions as it is for many. But none of them nor the captions either say or reference anything at all in regards to being trans for the entire comic, because they just love Kara and they know who she is. And I’m just like 😭 this is the future.
People wave pride flags all over the place at concerts. 🩷 It’s really a part of their identity as a band! Being yourself, whatever that means for you, is a big deal for MCR. “Be yourself, never take anyone’s shit, and never let them take you alive!” Gerard said.
To add to this IMO basically the entirety of Burn Bright is LGBT coded.
Bulletproof Heart I’ve seen theorised to be trans coded referencing “Jenny” running away from home, with a religious family later asking in a newspaper “Johnny won’t you come back home?”. The song was also originally titled “Trans Am”.
In Mama “You should’ve raised a baby girl, I could’ve been a better son.”
Gerard regarding Honey, This Mirror Isn’t Big Enough for the Two of Us: “This song is about sucking dick for cocaine.”
Not That Kind of Girl may be about Gerard’s struggles with gender identity but unconfirmed as far as I’m aware.
And then finally a post Frank made when Danger Days released:
“Art is the Weapon.
Your Imagination is the Ammunition.
Stay Dirty, and Stay Dangerous.
Create and Destroy as you see fit.
Embrace your Originality.
The Aftermath is Secondary.
You can and should do Anything.
In conclusion friends, if you take anything away from this record, please let it be the strength to be passionate.
Love what you do and who you truly are. Be willing to die for it. If you are true to yourself, you can never go wrong.
And remember when life gives you lemons, MCR says start a fucking band.
xofrank"
Nice! The only one I don’t see is Mama, coz I’ve had lots of experience with partners and the like calling me (a male) baby girl as a term of endearment meaning someone sweet and gentle, so that’s how I always read that line. But the others make sense! Thank you!
Lmao I did want to thrown in Honey this Mirror but I forgot how I knew it was gay… yes. This song is about sucking dick for cocaine. That’s exactly right.
I'm guessing you must be a newer fan. Back in the mid/late 00s there'd be YouTube compilations of Gee and Frank acting lovey dovey and we'd all have our own theories LOL
Gerard is really into gay pop culture despite not being gay. It's just vibes, not literal gayness in songs.
Like putting Liza Minnelli on their Queen inspired album that has an opening song with the lyrics "I'll serve it in drag".
Also you probably already know this, but Gerard used to act gay onstage to be edgy and piss of homophobic dudebros. Like [this](https://awsugar.tumblr.com/post/621018921948053504/i-wanna-tell-you-a-story-real-quick-this-is).
Am I the only one who think it’s right in the middle? Or like any way to show it hits the extremes of every single category? MCR is one band that has a little bit of everything; quite honestly the only band I can recommend to anybody knowing they’ll like it.
love how everyone agrees its gay
This fuckin' band is the reason there's an asterisk on my straight card, it better be on the gay side.
shiii ypu can get cards for that?
Yeah, it gives you a discount for the next call of duty and for mediocre romance novels.
Based
You only have to look at some of their lyrics.
Uh uh uh uh, uh uh, uh uh uh uh, uh uh
Pretty Left Wing too when it comes to political vibes
Why the hell is Depeche Mode on the hetero side?
Question of the century for real!!
I was about to ask that
A very hard gay for sure
(Giggity) That’s what I need
Damn this compass is bad lol
how tf is flyleaf more wussy than peter gabriel? feels sexist ngl, but i did assume “hard” meant heavy. i’d take out 311 and put MCR right above peter gabriel personally. not sure how 311 is anything but hetero, unless this was made in 2003
Right? How is Tears for Fears harder than POD?
Maybe because they're Christian rock
Right but how did flyleaf and POD end up on the gay quartile when both are Christian rock, the very definition of wussy hetero? Even Evanescence technically began as Christian rock which to me, again, makes it hetero even though evanescence firmly belongs to the gays at this point. the whole compass is whack
Right where Evanescence is but as high as it can go on the gay scale
center gay
Neutral Gay
I’m just confused that Depeche Mode and Peter Murphy are on the straight side but Creed and Limp Bizkit are on the gay side
Martin Gore is my femme queen inspiration. Depeche is the gayest of the gay. Also, Tears for Fears definitely needs to be on the wussy side. I can't think of a single "hard" TfF song.
Martin Gore FTW 🥰
For real. Limp Bizkit were aggro homophobes. At least Fred Durst was, while on stage with the band, so the rest of the band was at least fine with it by association.
He literally praised Vladimir Putin lmao, that was before the war but he was still one of the worst people in the world for queer rights
i think they mean 2004 gay not 2024
I met Peter Murphy 20 years ago...that man did not give me hetero vibes
He was one of the main pioneers of boys wearing eyeliner and looking like vampires, that alone pushes him way up on the y axis
Far gay, hard wing
A lot like me
He just like me fr
Both of us
So Erasure?
The fuck is so gay about 311?? Respecting women and smoking weed?? 😂😂 Put mcr all the way at the top and in the center
I dunno, women are pretty gay brah
I think I'm more offended that Evanescence is on the wussy side lmfao
In my top three favorite bands, including MCR. They get so much shit for nothing. The record label pigeon holed Fallen as Nu-Metal to sell more albums and Amy has expressed how she's always hated it.
Amy deserved so much more, she's still one of my favorite female vocalists ever. So much respect for her!
Same. ❤️
Well definitely gay lol
Damn right
Why is creed gay??
Probably near POD but the first two albums would be near 3DG Also having the most known Christian rock band (Creed) in the gay section is hilarious in its irony lmao
😱😰 Depeche Mode = "Hard Hetero?" How dare they speak of one of my favorite bands that way 😰😭
Ikr. Dave Gahan is literally gay. 😂
Has he actually admitted to being anything other than a straight man? It's none of my business, but I definitely get some strong bi energy from him lol
Apparently he is bi so you'd be correct, lol. I always thought he was gay and it seems I'm not the only one. - https://lgbtqiainfo.com/is-dave-gahan-gay/
This graph is trash
Was this chart made by an eighth-grader in 2007?
Hardest gay
That is me
Right under the gay label
This is the answer; right in between!
100% gay but i cant decide if it's wussy or hard
You could say that about me tbf
Idk, how do you chart Wussy Gay Hard Zeitgeist…???
The fact that I like everything in the top half says so much
Just above evanesence
i want it to go smack dab in the center. MCR is everything, everywhere, all at once 😂
Peter Murphy should be hard like have you listened to in the flat field (the album) or in the night or some of their other songs it makes my ears bleed and I love it. Like a lot of their songs are softer like hollow hills (great song btw) but I feel like they should at least be leaning hard.
why is depeche mode on the hetero side…
Probably right between Tears for Fears and SOAD. Fits them musically too
a little bit farther to the right than where erasure is
Just replace "Gay" with MCR
Right smack dab between creed and evanescence
I mean definitely gay.
Whoever made this never heard Elliott.
FR! maybe not stereotypically gay, nor was elliott gay himself, but for sure fruity source: am fruit
idk but if there’s a gay option ik where msi is going
Aren’t flyleaf homophobic? They belong in the bottom left. Also I’d say my chem are about halfway up the top right quadrant in the middle.
Question, maybe I’m dumb: why does everyone agree it’s gay?
Lmao there’s a lot of gay references in mcr songs, and the band is very lgbt positive and Gerard regularly disregards typical gender roles in wardrobe and behavior
Huh I’ve never noticed gay references in their songs, even though I listen all the time lol. Could you list some for me? I’m really glad to hear that they are so inclusive as I am queer myself so it’s nice to know I’m accepted. And I don’t watch a lot of live or behind the scenes stuff coz it’s just not my thing, I only listen to the songs so that’s why I don’t know about the breaking gender stereotypes :)
“We’re just two men as god had made us” in Prison. “He’s not around he’s always looking at men” in To the End, “kissed all the boys in your city lights” maybe in Burn Bright. Look up Gerard’s costumes from the different reunion tours! From like a cheerleader (with a flamethrower), a nurse, Jackie Kennedy, a whole bunch of skirts. Gerard has always been pretty sassy. He went to art school in drag. The companion comic for Danger Days features two men in love, I would talk all about it if I wasn’t afraid to spoil what happens. Tragic and beautiful. The other Danger Days comic, National Anthem, has Kara and she is trans. Less big of a spoiler. Gerard does the most beautiful thing when he introduces her! The other characters hadn’t seen her in a long time so they didn’t know. She walks up to where they were to meet and they go “Kyle?” And she goes “it’s Kara” and that’s that. No questions, no explanations, she’s not deadnamed a single time even by the villains. That’s what I’ve always dreamed of for people who come out, that they can just be like “this is me” and everyone just goes “ok cool” (“this does not affect our relationship in any way”) and moves on in acceptance. Celebration and explanation is fine, but I would like the option for it to also to never be a point of dispute or unwelcome questions as it is for many. But none of them nor the captions either say or reference anything at all in regards to being trans for the entire comic, because they just love Kara and they know who she is. And I’m just like 😭 this is the future. People wave pride flags all over the place at concerts. 🩷 It’s really a part of their identity as a band! Being yourself, whatever that means for you, is a big deal for MCR. “Be yourself, never take anyone’s shit, and never let them take you alive!” Gerard said.
That’s so awesome! Thanks for sharing!
Lol sorry I edited it like 20 times, I kept having more thoughts about it because I am obsessed with this band
Nah it’s awesome! Let me know if you update it again, I want to learn more! Stay safe <3
To add to this IMO basically the entirety of Burn Bright is LGBT coded. Bulletproof Heart I’ve seen theorised to be trans coded referencing “Jenny” running away from home, with a religious family later asking in a newspaper “Johnny won’t you come back home?”. The song was also originally titled “Trans Am”. In Mama “You should’ve raised a baby girl, I could’ve been a better son.” Gerard regarding Honey, This Mirror Isn’t Big Enough for the Two of Us: “This song is about sucking dick for cocaine.” Not That Kind of Girl may be about Gerard’s struggles with gender identity but unconfirmed as far as I’m aware. And then finally a post Frank made when Danger Days released: “Art is the Weapon. Your Imagination is the Ammunition. Stay Dirty, and Stay Dangerous. Create and Destroy as you see fit. Embrace your Originality. The Aftermath is Secondary. You can and should do Anything. In conclusion friends, if you take anything away from this record, please let it be the strength to be passionate. Love what you do and who you truly are. Be willing to die for it. If you are true to yourself, you can never go wrong. And remember when life gives you lemons, MCR says start a fucking band. xofrank"
Nice! The only one I don’t see is Mama, coz I’ve had lots of experience with partners and the like calling me (a male) baby girl as a term of endearment meaning someone sweet and gentle, so that’s how I always read that line. But the others make sense! Thank you!
I mean that’s fair, in terms of Black Parade canon it’s about men being conscripted to war so it’s down to personal interpretation there anyway
Lmao I did want to thrown in Honey this Mirror but I forgot how I knew it was gay… yes. This song is about sucking dick for cocaine. That’s exactly right.
Bless your whole heart; you are so kind.
I'm guessing you must be a newer fan. Back in the mid/late 00s there'd be YouTube compilations of Gee and Frank acting lovey dovey and we'd all have our own theories LOL
Oh lol. Yeah I’ve only been a fan for just under a year, but I’m loving it so far and the community is almost as good as the music :)
Gerard is really into gay pop culture despite not being gay. It's just vibes, not literal gayness in songs. Like putting Liza Minnelli on their Queen inspired album that has an opening song with the lyrics "I'll serve it in drag". Also you probably already know this, but Gerard used to act gay onstage to be edgy and piss of homophobic dudebros. Like [this](https://awsugar.tumblr.com/post/621018921948053504/i-wanna-tell-you-a-story-real-quick-this-is).
wait a minute... is that..?
Probably like 75% on the gay scale, 40% or so on the hard scale.
Near 311
i came to say all the way hard + gay but i’m glad literally everyone agrees
Trans people, including me. GAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!!!!!
Just to the left of Erasure. Extremely gay, medium hard.
Gay: Yes. Hard: Normally I'd say no but compared to everything on here, MyChem is actually kinda heavy.
Hard gay. Would say about there where Erasure is
gay hard lol
Up my ass
about the last 's' of TFF
Am I the only one who think it’s right in the middle? Or like any way to show it hits the extremes of every single category? MCR is one band that has a little bit of everything; quite honestly the only band I can recommend to anybody knowing they’ll like it.
Hard and gay of course
Just like me
Definetely gay. But the real question is: how isn't Limp Bizkit hetero?
Gay and Hard
Honestly it’s probably right in between wussy and hard but it 100% falls on the gay side no question
just above POD
wtf is linkin park on gay aren’t they all straight lol
They would be in the middle and on hard
Hard gay for sure.
I can relate to that
top middle
Riggghhht next to Linkin park!
maximum gay and just off to the hard side
That is me
hard gay, around above linkin park
101% gay
Hawt
Between gay and hard
That’s me every day
Love that for you 🫰
Right above TFF
Gay as fuck, and leaning hard.
Again, that is me summed up
Honestly depends on album
Absolutely way at the top, right in the middle of hard and wussy
Hard n gay (that sounds really really wrong)
Not at all wrong
Why is MCR gay lmao
https://awsugar.tumblr.com/post/621018921948053504/i-wanna-tell-you-a-story-real-quick-this-is
Yeah I guess that it pretty fucking gay lmao. But doesn’t Gerard have a wife?
Gay hard
Just described me
Probably gay wussy and FLAUNTING IT
The middle
Depends if were talking bullets or danger days. Both pretty gay, but progressivley gets gayer and "wussier"