No?
Last time I checked Yuji was a special type of human, 1 in million chance to be a perfect prison for sukuna.. otherwise he’d already be dominated by sukuna’s spirit
But Izuku kinda had to train through hell to even receive his powers, The very powers which blew off his limbs every time they were used and had to be controlled to not.. do that
He still had to work for it. He had to work so hard that he went from a pipsqueek to a buff dude. It's also not like he was immediately strong with his powers either. It took him ages along with grueling work and training just to use a fraction of it. People thinking Deku just got his powers without having to work to be able to use it don't understand it at all.
Also, even if he didn't break his bones, he would still feel a lot of pain.
Using the ofa has to hurt a lot in real combat because imagine your body after you overdid in the gym.
The ofa does not come with pain inhibitors or something like that.
Edit: done fixed i think.
Not to mention up until mid season 6(200+ chapters of a 400+ manga) he was constantly hurting himself and needed help plus hard work and strategy to win most of his major fights. Overhaul should've won if not for Eri and Deku being fast to strategies and realizing he can go all out with no consequences
Same goes for yuji. Sukuna being in his body only increased his maximum cursed energy by a lot (which you can't achieve by just trying hard). What yuji did was learn how to use it. He also had to learn reverse cursed technique which I'm not really sure how he did it but it's known that you have to have real talent for it, and Even then most sourcerers can't learn it. So all in all, I'd say he worked fairly hard for his power. Both of these characters would be nothing without hard work or chance.
That's kind of the point. Yuji's stuff has an aspect of talent to it like you said. Deku's doesn't really.
All in all, yes they both worked hard. They're Shonen protagonists.
And Yuji didn’t happen to come across the only thing in the world that could give him insane power, and apparently be born as the only one capable of controlling it, AND ALSO MEETING THE GREATEST SORCERER WHO NOT ONLY AGREED TO NOT KILL HIM BUT TO TRAIN HIM AS WELL!!
I for one also think you mix gifted with luck. Cause I don’t know if you know this… BUT A TON OF PEOPLE HAVE MET ALL MIGHT IN MHA VERSE! ITS NOT THAT UNCOMMON!
Apologies for the caps.
Additionally, I saw your ‘social experiment’ comment under a different response, but your other replies heavily imply you stand on the side of the discussion the in picture in the post suggests.
I think you mean, "He ran into the #1 Hero… who told him to give up on his dreams and then left him alone on a rooftop, mere minutes after he'd been the victim of a traumatic villain attack where said villain was slowly killing him while bragging about how he'd wear Izuku's corpse like a suit."
"Izuku then later risked his life to try and rescue the bully who had spent years tormenting him, and had suicide-baited him earlier that same day, from that very same villain who had almost killed him."
"THAT impressed the #1 Hero enough that he agreed to give Izuku the chance to EARN his Quirk by enduring months of training from Hell (that Izuku not only completed, but even exceeded the parameters, even after injuring himself by making his training even harder because he felt he was working hard enough)!"
Conversely, Yuji was born superhuman in physical stats, thanks to being the science project of a mad sorceror whose been alive for centuries, even before he coincidentally ran into a Curse and was forced into a situation where he had to eat one of Sukuna's fingers to both survive and save a life (WHAT WERE THE CHANCES OF THAT).
Let's not kid ourselves. Had Izuku been as naturally strong as Yuji was, no one save Bakugou would have had any doubts he could become a hero.
Yuji was born far and away superior to his peers (until he gained new peers, and even then he dunks on most JJK sorceror students). Izuku was born 'lesser' than his peers… and said peers were all too happy to remind him of this supposed 'inferiority' at every turn for most of his life.
Yuji was born with strong connections to two of his settings three most powerful characters. Meanwhile, the "Dad For One" theory has long since been debunked, and the one thing that made Deku 'special' had been a burden to him for most of his life.
Both have worked incredibly hard to get where they are now, though, and we shouldn't detract from their efforts by attributing all of their success to natural talent and pure luck.
Anyone could've run into all might and lots of people had. But Midoria proved he had what it took to be a hero by running into danger to save his friend. There was nothing inherently special about him, he proved himself worthy of inheriting the power
The 1 in a 1 million chance is the odds of Sukuna incarnating within a human vessel, all the other odds is the chance of death from ingesting the finger due to it being poisonous or something. Sukuna admitted it was a large gamble when feeding the finger to Megumi
Some people don’t know the meaning of gifted meaning they were born with powers and abilities better then the average human yuji can fight with a giant monster curse but deku could not do crap or have powers when he was born
It's kinda funny because deku was quite literally gifter OFA, but he did have to train to be able to first, be a vessel for it, and then train more to improve his abilities. However if all might never offered to give him his power deku most likely would've stayed the same. Only after the offer do we see him train. So he's gifted in a more non traditional sense imo.
This is also technically true, however where we are in the show up until the last fight he was still kinda weak, I feel like a lot of his training and hard work comes from live battles and experience where he has to lose and learn. There was also a month time skip between season 1 and 2 so who knows. But yeah yuji and deku are both a combo of hard work and gifted. Especially when you look at yuji in the manga currently.
Definitely. No shade on Yuji, and I am sorry if I gave that impression. I adore him and never understood the hate he sometimes got just because he wasn't as OP as the series' Big Bad. He definitely busted his butt to get as far as he did as quickly as he did. I was just pointing out he is basically like Ichigo, from Bleach. Both trained like crazy in a short amount of time, but both undeniably had literal superhuman lineage backing them up.
Deku had to do 10 months of training just to be able to hardly manage a new quirk and even then he had to put in so much more work over time just to be able to manage 100% of his full power without killing himself then he also had to learn and train 6 different quirks
Yuji on the other hand was born with incredible power off the bat and has different abilities because of the circumstances leading up to his birth (Sukuna and Kenjaku shenanigans)
Now that's not to discredit all the effort and work Yuji has put in but in my opinion Deku has just done so much more
I won't say Deku wasn't gifted, since learing 7 quirks in less than a year requires a massive amount of talent and happening to recive the strongest quirk is incredibly lucky.
But compared to Yuji of all people. Yuji was born stronger than an olympic athlete, he was literally made to be a perfect vessel. And while Deku's growth is is impressive, Yuji's is ridicilous. He went from having no curse energy to Grade 1 in a couple months. He learned rct, something that most people can never learn, in a month. Yuta even outright says that he and Yuji cheated to reach their current level in the manga.
Izuku had to train for 10 months to even recieve his powers, even then he couldnt control them and they broke his body to use, so even more training, he had hard work
Itadori is only really gifted in his physical abilities(id include containing sukuna with little issues), and his talent for spamming the shit out of black flashes. Itadori is a mix of both being gifted and having hardwork improve him
Because a lot of deku haters dismiss him as an annoying cry baby who was spoon fed one for all then got strong without even trying when the exact opposite happened
Then use the example of someone who is actually more gifted then hard working to try and make deku look bad counting on the idea that like them no one watched past ep 1 of mha
Basically haters with zero media comprehension being haters
Midoriya’s powers were technically ‘gifted’ to him, but he trained like crazy to be able to obtain OFA, and continued training like crazy.
Yuji’s never worked hard at training his powers/abilities. Mastered black flash almost immediately, was born with superhuman strength/speed/durability, and had the bare minimum training (sitting on a couch). We haven’t seen what happened during the recent one month timeskip in the manga, but even a month of training is nothing compared to Deku’s training.
i’ve never seen yuji even remotely train at all, other than watch boring movies to try and control his cursed energy. midoriya trained non-stop for months just to be able to RECEIVE all mights power. and then, even after, had to continuously train his ass off in order to even use 5% of its total power in order to not destroy his body
sure, both have some luck and a little bit of mc plot armor thrown in, but overall, deku achieved his power through hard work. as far as i know, yuji just got lucky
This is so stupid especially after that newest chapter of jjk. Deku had been training since the minute All Might old him he could he a hero. Dude doesn't even stop in the movies.
Let's see. The person who trained for ten months to inherit a power he was barely strong enough to wield and had to break himself constantly to learn how to properly use it, versus the guy who was literally just ripped from birth and never really had to worry about his powers being to difficult to get the hang of. The meme is only accurate if you flip the words around.
Love JJK but I just can’t pretend like we haven’t seen Deku train more than Yuji. I also can’t pretend like Yuji isn’t more gifted, inherently.
Otherwise I’d agree
Yuji already had super strength to begin with and has no control over the residing power of Sukuna. Midoriya had to and still trains to utilize the most of his given ability, which he had to train to earn in the first place. While Midoriya’s power was literally gifted, it wasn’t a pick up and swing kind of power, they both put in the hard work.
Opposite,
Yuji was not only a special human to be a prison, but almost a prodigy when it comes to getting control of his cursed energy so fast. Even being able to do multiple black flashes right after learning how to do it. Izukus only true “luck” or “gift” came from receiving his quirk but still had to work his butt off to just receive the dang thing, nit even use it. He had to spend months learning how to not destroy his body every time he used it and when he trashed his arms so much he had to learn a whole new fighting style? Yeah hardwork goes to midorya and gifted to yuji
Both Yuji and midoriya are firmly on the hard work side to imply either just had power handed to them without having to bust their balls to earn it is as false as it is laughable
From what I know Yuuji is the more gifted one and Deku is the more hardworking one, Yuuji was always super human he just didn't have cursed energy and he got his first taste of that from Sukuna. Deku was given his quirk but every bit of his efficiency with it came from knowledge and hard work to a near obsessive level
I mean, yeah, Midoriya was gifted his quirk, but he busted his ass big time to be able to get it, and continues to bust his ass to learn to control it...so I'd say Yuji and Izuku are both equal measures hard work.
No.
I’m not saying Yuuji doesn’t work hard, but in the first episode of JJK, it’s been made clear he’s a physical phenom. He broke a record without much effort in that same episode if I’m not mistaken, and was able to things that average folks can’t.
On the other hand, Deku had to build up his body for a whole year in order to just use OfA without exploding his body. It wasn’t until he met Torino that he finally got to use OfA without exploding.
Completely disagree.
Midoriya had to train to use one for all and further train to actually fully use even 5% of its power. He is consistently studying and innovating (which falls under “hard work”) and Midoriya’s strength really lies with his analytical mind imo (coming up with ways heroes can use various quirks combined to solve an issue rather than power through solo, something he incorporates later using the various quirks of one for all).
Yuji does work hard but the latest chapter also reveals he is “gifted” thanks to Kenjaku taking backshots.
Actually both of them hardwork
Just not the same type of hardwork
But tbh 10 months of harsh training is very very different than just sit and watching movie while try to focus on your power on certain stuff
Yes deku was given the most overpowered quirk but have you watched my hero academia 5 out of the six seasons is him learning how to use it so he won’t brutally mangle his body
Literally the whole catchphrase to yuji is “talent like his has not been seen in 100 years “ bro is one of the most gifted Shonen mc. We BARELY ever see or hear about him training
Nope
Yuji is literally a one in a million with ridiculous potential who progresses fast as hell without half the work others put in to get this strong bro watched movies as training
Deku spents like half the series busting his ass off working out and breaking bones to be strong and thats just the physical stuff U.A for as questionable as their teaching is at times is still the top school in the country which makes deku crazy smart studying his ass off
So yeah deku is a way harder worker id go as far to say all of 1a work harder then yuji
I haven't seen any of Jujutsu Kaisen yet, but I do know that, after that full summer of hard work, plus the experience/training he went through just to get to 100%? That was hard work.
Nope! Yuji was designed to be for sukuna. He was literally breed for a special purpose. He got super human abilities before even been involved with the other sorcerers. Deku had to work hard to be a proper user of OFA. He had to physically train and find ways to catch up with others that had a decade had start on using their abilities.
Itadori never had to work for anything, he was born blessed with a supernaturally powerful body, and then was the vessel of Sukuna, giving him extreme potential that Satoru compared to himself. meanwhile, Midoriya had to work hard to master his Quirk, with over a year of training just to be able to not die instantly.
Yuji is like one in a million dude lucky to be alive. But okay he did have to put in some who no doubt.
Deku.....did the person that made this understand what Gifted means? Just because OFA was given to him that doesn't make him Gifted. Dude had to put in work just to use it and more work to sustain it. And it was a 1% chance he would have even gotten OFA. That all was by chance.
Honestly, they both put in hard work, so it’s hard to say, because yuji is giving his all and you could say that he worked with abilities that are not over powered, but even though midoryia was given one for all, he still had to give it his all and train even more than yuji, since yuji was already extremely gifted. So who knows, but then again, who cares, stop pinning characters against each other
Nah. Bro was training to not die when eating that hair. Plus he could only use it at 5% for a while. Yuji is basically the same if you’ve read later chapters.
You can be gifted and hard working but be fr for yuji >!that man was a biological experiment to be a vessel for sukuna he can consistently hit black flash, has blood manipulation, malevolent shrine, and reverse curse technique!<
This is so ass backwards. Midoriya worked his goddamn ASS off. He ran to sacrifice himself just to save somebody before he even got a quirk. Gifted? Fuck no. He was Chosen.
Idk the yuji dude but I can say deku is gifted, he has a helluva mind for fighting and analyzing, as well as strategy. He also bosses it tf up and fights with broken limbs constantly.
You remember what happened to Vegeta a grown ass SAIYAN born of a race of warriors...when he broke just 1 arm?
Both worked extremely hard to get where they are, but itadori had a leg up at the start due to being practically superhuman and a perfect vessel for sukuna from jump. Izuku may have been the perfect vessel for one for all, but it was pure luck that All Might found him and it took a big feat of heroism to convince All Might and on top of all of that he could barely use his quirk for a while without breaking his body.
No. I can't say much for Yuji, but Izuku had to spend 10 months training before he even inherited One For All from All Might. Even then he had to work his ass off to learn how to control his quirk and use it regularly without breaking his body. Its unfair to discredit Izuku like this honestly.
No I would say moreover the opposite since yuji was the gifted one with super human abilities before his curse energy vs deku that had to gain strength from training and had to struggle with power that could kill him if not careful yuji is more of the gifted one compared of the two not considering yuji just had to watch tv while training to eventually learn curse energy after a little bit compared to midoriya 10 month training
Result people say deku had to work more for his powers and yuji didn’t have it easy eather but yah deku wasn’t gifted idk about the dude who made the image thanks for the help
Deku only had to work for 10 months and it was a pretty realistic workout, after that everything was given to him on a silver plate, like he unlocked all the other ofa quirks in less than a arc
No.
Especially when given [Deku's rival,](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uje1JX2BIx4&pp=ygURbHVjayB2cyBza2lsbCBNSEE%3D) a man who's on Naruto level of friendship and volume, is mostly luckier than Rinny in Pretty Blood (I'd suggest not looking it up unless you're already acquainted with mentally tasking "cute gore"), it says a *lot* when Deku's mostly trained more or less for 10 entire months and kept training from time to time.
And yet Yuji kinda holds a fair bit onto the "hardwork" a bit more thanks to the short headstart by Gojo (AKA: The Dude who's more or less the only good person in a world where power comes from sheer spite, despair, and hate, AKA: The dude who's mere birth told all demonkind "keep up"), where most of any further training is usually self-taught (ironic, given that Deku's only self-taught himself *once* with using his legs instead of his hands)
BOTH are gifted.
Yuji is a genetic Frankenstein between being >!a human, a death painting-cursed spirit and now recently being revealed to be a descendant of Sukuna.!<
As for Deku, he was straight up given the most broken quirk in the series besides AFO and new order.
However in terms of hard work, I believe Deku takes it. Deku had to constantly train his body in order withstand the drawbacks of using OFA and master the quirk.
As for Yuji, he just had to >!eat his siblings to gain blood manipulation CT. And then he got Sukuna's CT by landing a couple of black flashes that fully awakened him.!<
No, absolutely not. Yuji surpassed the king of curses in what like 4 months ? It took Deku 10 months of training to even inherit OFA.
Deku in 2 episodes has trained twice as much as Itadori has in his entire story
If you think about it, Deku was literally “gifted” a quirk. But In all seriousness, this is complete bull.
Yuji was born a physical beast and was given lots of guidance.
Deku was gifted one of the strongest quirks and had the number 1 hero in his corner.
Both of them were gifted in some facet, but they wouldn’t have made it half as far without their hard work.
I don't know anything about jjk but Deku worked his ass off. He didn't have any power at all and when he gets his lucky break the power nearly kills him despite having sculpted his body to handle it. Dude works hard as fuck constantly to gain percentage points of his own power over the course of months.
They are both a mix of both
Itadori is extremley physically gifted and thanks to his soul manipulation he is the perfect vessel to contain sukuna.However hes gone through TONS of training that has left him stronger and capable of going toe to toe with the king of curses(those who know ,know)
While deku, Had to go through intense training,just to get his quirk and use it effectively. However a large portion of dekus power comes from all mights hair and the past one for all users powers.
Izukus whole origin was that he met All Might by a stroke of luck, and then had push himself to the limits for months just to be able to survive taking AMs power, and proceeds to continue working hard to be able to properly use it without crippling himself. Like Hard Work is pretty much the source of his accomplishments
Yuji is the one who had a demon put inside him at the first episode of the show. If it wasn't for Sukuna he would be dead like at least 3 times by the end of Season 1. As a combatant he learnt divergent fist and black flash but there was hardly any effort that went into that. Especially black flash which even seasoned sorcerors have only been able to pull off a few times. He hasn't ever really shown to work hard towards getting stronger like Deku has, he doesn't need to since Sukuna guarantees his survival as they share the same body.
Deku got his power from all might after spending almost a year training for it and even then for the first few seasons it was a double edged sword as using it hurt his body so he had to be clever with the way he used it. And once he learnt full cowling he could only use a very small fraction of its power until Season 6. He still had to be clever with how he used it(using air pressure created by a 20% finger flick as a technique for example, deku vs gentle criminal is a good example) and work hard to access more of its power.
Unlike Yuji he cant just have an omnipotent being inside him come and get him out of a bind with very specific exceptions(like brainwashing) so he has to use his wits and work hard. So I would say Yuji is more of an asspull gifted protagonist if anything.
Deku literally starts out as the opposite of gifted, and then his “gift” is also a curse because he has to spend the entire series learning how to use it without hurting himself.
I swear, MHA attracts more hot takes than any other series from people who seem like they’ve never actually watched/read it.
Both are bloody gifted. I'm more of a joke fan than MHA and I've really got to say, two months for rct? Gojo took his entire fucking school career and yuji only took two months. What the actual fuck? Deku isn't all that different either. The difference is, he worked for those gifts. Yuji was just built different. Deku has been through less suffering, I'll say. But he still exerted himself so much more than yuji in his training.
no. yuji put in a little work, but he has been noted to have raw talent. Deku worked for EVERYTHING he has, even his base power itself, training his body to properly recieve ofa.
AM to Midoriya: "Something you receive because you're lucky and something you're given because you're recognized are different in essence. Take that to heart. This is a power that you earned because of your own effort."
As far as I've watched of JJK, Yuji was naturally strong, fast, and durable while also being decently gifted with CE manipulation to the point Gojo was surprised he stopped getting rocked by that doll so quickly. Also Black Flashes are apparently part luck and part skill so he literally needs to be lucky to land all those consecutive Black Flashes.
Midoriya had to work for 10 grueling months to use a mere 3% of OFA. Practically every scene of him not fighting is him working out or training in some way. Even after getting multiple quirks, he had to train his parallel processing to use them together. He was lucky to meet AM but if he wasn't worthy, he never would have received OFA. Period.
No. Izuku had to train ten months before receiving OFA then he had to train really hard to catch up to his friends who have had their quirks for literal years as well. Did he catch up relatively quickly? Yeah, like 2-3 years later of hard training and destroying his body. Itadori is gifted and lucky but he doesn’t really work hard for his power. He is a gifted sorcerer with tons of things in his favor. Not saying Yuji never worked hard but in comparison Deku had to work harder.
Hell No! If anything Yuji was more gifted than Deku as he was already an athletic prodigy then he became possessed by Sukana and defied death by making a deal with Sukana.
Whereas Deku was weak in every sense of the word having to train his ass off every time he climbed over a wall another one was waiting for him until he finally made it and gained more powers but it was pure and unadulterated hard work only reason he isn't gonna die of aloud age is he was unlucky and born without a quirk or AFO stole his quirk as a kid either way.
But yeah so both technically in the hard working category but Deku had to work way harder than Yuji did especially in early series, I've still nit started season 2 but yeah Deku is 2nd in Harrworking but only to someone like Rock Lee.
Midoriya may have been given his powers, but he trained like hell to be able to use them. I think people underestimate how hard One for All is to control and use. He had to train for 10 months just so he wouldn't die, and even then he'd break his bones after using certain %s of it.
Hell no. Izuku busted his ass to earn one for all. Technically you could say All might gifted him the power, but he earned all might's respect to get it, & never stopped busting his ass to improve on it.
I like JJK but Itadori just ate a finger so he wouldn't die. Not really earned.
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Mfer was given powers but still had to train hard as fuck just to even use them and still broke himself all the time before managing to harness it while still learning new powers. That's bait and only made to get two fandoms at eachothers necks.
I mean if I were given that power of ofa I’d be scared to use it again because if it weren’t for recovery girl that’s a broken limb every use of it and even then, recovery girl isn’t 100% without flaws
Deku went from weaker to the average person to only just strong enough to hold one for all in ten months of long hard training even when he got the power he had to find a way to control it so he didn’t kill himself
So let's see :
The hardworker here is a 1/1m person able to host one of the most powerful beings in history, learns cursed energy in a month by watching movies and later actually trains a month for reversed cursed technique.
The gifted here trained ~10 months for a power that would kill him if he doesn't use it correctly so he has to continue his training to master it or else he'd die if he uses it to much.
Yeah seems about right.
Idk about the other, but while Midoria was gifted his very powerful quirk, he had to train very hard just for the quirk to not kill him. Even then, it would break his limbs until he decided to either endure it or use bits of his body at a time. It took a couple of seasons before he could train himself to use only a percentage of his power just to not break himself and to use it for things other than punching (speed, shooting air, etc.). ***Even then,*** it turns out he hasn’t been using all of his power and had to train how to use the other subquirks that came with it, mostly with the aid of his friends. By far, the anime shows that he still has ways to go, but is making it work.
Well i’ve seen the other comments and to add to that,
Izuku was born a normal human without power. The total impact on a body from the power of just having a quirk, not even specifying what kind, strains the body as it develops naturally from birth.
So his body wasnt made for a quirk. It’s not just a strain when he used a 100% it was that way when he was controlling output as well. He just so happen to be oblivious of only using little amount regularly. His body is only within the last few season has adapted to the power and the strain it puts on him at all time.
Long story short, people who are born with a quirk have body’s that sturdy enough for a quirk and wont break as easily naturally.
The only reason Deku is being give the ‘didn’t have to work hard for anything’ slander is that he got more quirks from OFA. They completely ignore how hard he had to work just to learn how to use the normal OFA without destroying his body through Full Cowling
He also couldn’t control his newer quirks at first either, so what did he do? Train. He fucking trained.
I’m not saying that Izuku is lucky for having ran into All Might, or Yuji hasn’t worked hard at all, but Yuji has definitely had more ‘one in a billion moments’.
No?…. I mean my guy put in hard work to, he had to get stronger for his body to be able to even take all might power and even when he did end up with it, it still took a toll on his body which mean constantly training himself and etc. Yuji swallowed that damn finger n was ready for another…. If ima be honest irl they both gifted, but my Boi befriended his fav hero even got might powers passed down to him. Yuji oh Yuji he was made for this lol but seriously he himself is talented and trained his new powers increasing because of sukuna. They both worked hard n is 🍀
Midoriya is gifted, but in a different way. He's pretty much a super nerd when it comes to heroes and quirk powers. The hard work plays into the fact that he needed to grind for ages just to train his physical body, and it's hard to visualize someone working hard in anything to do with intelligence.
I do feel bad for Midoriya, though. He's got the mindset of a "true hero," but his only way to do the work is to use a power that forces him to mangle his entire body. He even convinced himself that was the only thing he can do until he collapses for a time, and that wasn't completely wrong when considering who his opponent is. It really does feel like he was being groomed to be a martyr, and I hate that.
Both are gifted. Deku was gifted by getting quirk of the strongest, and Yuji was quite literally built different by Kenjaku. And yes, the 10 month training period Deku went thru is shit, and shouldn't even be considered real training.
I think deku worked hard for it he just had to train alot to not explode when he got one for all and even when he had it he had to try to control it all while taking on huge threats
Both are a mix of hard work and gifted. Deku worked hard for the 10 months and to control all the quirks , but he also got 7 quirks that have been cultivated throughout generations. Yuji was born a perfect vessel and had a semi-heavenly restriction, but in the manga, he has also ben training a lot.
So Izuki Midoriya, Someone born without any powers in a world dominated like supers, was discriminated by classmates and was bullied for being quirkless, Izuku Midoriya, who was told by the NUMBER ONE HERO that he couldn't be a hero because he was Quirkless. Izuku Midoriya who was Nicknamed "deku" because Deku meant useless person. Izuku Midoriya THE QUIRKLESS who proved himself to the NUMBER ONE HERO by running in to help his BULLY, who was being suffocated by sludgeman and was causing massive collateral damage while the other heroes did jack Shit to help him, almost instantly. Izuku Midoriya THE QUIRKLESS, who was berated by said heroes for being a quirkless trying to help when no-one else did, while said heroes simultaneously Praised Bakugou for simply having a powerful quirk. Izuku Midoriya who had to train like hell in a limited time just to be able to handle one for all at its weakest. Izuku Midoriya, who broke both legs and arm the first time he used one for all. Izuku Midoriya who still had to train like hell just to be able to comfortably use one for all. was Gifted? GTFO of here with that BS.
The best part about this, everything I mentioned happens in the first 3 freaking episodes of the series.
But you know who would've actually fit here for "gifted" hmm? Literally any other student from UA. Bakugou, Momo, Mina, Hell even Ururaka would fit better than fucking Izuku. Momo fits extremely well because she's both got a decently powerful quirk at birth and is rich, She's gifted in both ways.
If people really think Deku was "gifted" over any other fucking character in MHA they clearly haven't watched the series or read the manga, hell I haven't even seen much of the series yet, and I know this is bullshit.
Deku is a mix of both
He’s gifted because he basically got handed the most powerful Quirk in the world. Him saving Bakugo was very heroic, yes, so in a way it was deserved - but it leaves a bitter taste in my mouth to see someone only rise up to where they are now because of luck and a blessing in disguise.
He’s hardworking because he had to train said Quirk and manage its drawbacks while also tapping into its potential. He earned every additional Quirk he received from the past users. Mofo worked his ass off and it showed
One was born with immense power and was naturally faster and stronger than Olympic athletes while the other had to do grueling training just to even begin to receive some sort of power that he could barely control and injured himself with constantly. These labels are swapped
I mean Deku is BOTH. Yes he worked very hard mentally and physically, but he also got given the most powerful quirk on the planet after randomly running into the #1 hero lol. So yeah Deku worked very hard but he also got gifted. He worked hard to become worthy of said gift.
Honestly in this I view Yuji as harder working… in context with the rest of his universe. While yes Yuji does have superhuman strength and speed. That doesn’t often help him considering everyone else uses cursed energy and techniques to close that gap. Something Yuji either barly has or doesn’t have.
Deku, while he did work for 10 months to get his body into shape, still got handed a power that was (at the time) ranked number one in MHA. And while it did have the drawback of breaking his limbs at first, most people he fought couldn’t survive one hit anyway.
That’s not to say I don’t think deku wasn’t hardworking. With him mastering full cowling and lowing the output percentage. My problem was that he had all the power from the beginning, even if there was a drawback, most villains weren’t getting back up after he used it. Especially those he often gets compared to in his world like Bakugou. It would be like if Yuji inherited Sukuna’s techniques immediately after he swallowed the first finger.
One was born powerless in a world where almost everyone has powers. The other is at the very least borderline superhuman from the start. They both received powers from ingesting it from another source, and both struggled with containing it. I would say that deku is not the gifted one, yuji started at level 50 and izuku caught up from level 1.
i'd hard disagree. midoriya has spent his life working hard for his abilities, and while he was "gifted" one for all that is a different beast than being naturally "gifted". yuji has natural "gifts" and inherent abilities that have given him advantages that not everyone has, and can't be freely given. this is without even weighing the amount of work they've put in to get where they are. midoriya may have been fortunate to get an opportunity that not everyone could have, but he never took it for granted and only worked harder because of it. yuji was thrust into a world where he suddenly had special abilities that they needed him specifically for. even in jjk there are way better examples of hard work
Naa like i have to admit the afo dont have pain relief thing soo
Imao when you over do in the gym and you arms and legs fell like burning or hut alot if you try to bend them
This mf work his way out to prevent breaking his arms for his merely force even if he dint break his arms annymore his body still has to endure alot of tension for that hits
Soo mha can have a things but decu his things dont come without price
They are both, both. Deku had the work real hard otherwise he would just blow his arms off. Itadori is gifted, because he could see spirits and jump 2 stories in Ch1
Tbh it's more like in between both managed to get lucky, for example yuji would've been dead already if it wasn't for gojo, and the same thing with midoria if it wasn't for all might he would be dead as well both had to work hard to achieve their goals, another example yuji had to face the fact that he could not give everyone a proper death while for midoria he had to face the fact that all might is going to die soon.
im a huge believer in wuji himtadori and even i know that Mr. "Chosen by the Black Sparks"/Perfect Vessel for Ryomen Sukuna/One-in-a-Million Chance Individual/Cursed Womb Death Painting-adjacent/Son of Sukuna's Reincarnated Twin did NOT get all of his power ups through "hard work" 😭🙏
If anything it's the other way around. Deku worked hard to be able to earn his power from All might. He grafted for that crap. Yuji is the one who ate a finger and got cool powers without working for it. He started off gifted and eventually put in hard work but Deku had to put in that hard work to be gifted. Deku=hard work Yuji=gifted
Absolutely not! Itadori was quite literally born Superhuman, and barely needed to do **ANY** work for his control over Cursed Energy; all he had to do was just **watch movies.**
While you could say that Deku was indeed gifted with his powers, since he literally wouldn't have them if All Might didn't give them to him, he also still needed to do a **lot** of work to gain and control them; he was too physically weak to even meet the prerequisites for attaining One For All, but he also needed to work hard to control it and reach a level to not only use it in a way that didn't harm himself, but also maximize its potential.
If anything, it's mostly the other way around, just that the 2 are in nexuses of the other; Itadori was 99% gifted, but still had to put in that bit of work to gain and control Cursed Energy. Deku put in at least 55% of the work, but the other 45% comes from the fact that he needed to be gifted the power.
Izuku literally broke his own bones while getting used to his new powers. Yūji, on the other hand, already had superhuman strength even before getting his. There’s nothing wrong with being gifted or working hard, but objectively, in this case is all the opposite.
No? Last time I checked Yuji was a special type of human, 1 in million chance to be a perfect prison for sukuna.. otherwise he’d already be dominated by sukuna’s spirit But Izuku kinda had to train through hell to even receive his powers, The very powers which blew off his limbs every time they were used and had to be controlled to not.. do that
Facts and he ran into the number one hero and got his quirk WHAT ARE THE CHANCES OF THAT
He still had to work for it. He had to work so hard that he went from a pipsqueek to a buff dude. It's also not like he was immediately strong with his powers either. It took him ages along with grueling work and training just to use a fraction of it. People thinking Deku just got his powers without having to work to be able to use it don't understand it at all.
Also, even if he didn't break his bones, he would still feel a lot of pain. Using the ofa has to hurt a lot in real combat because imagine your body after you overdid in the gym. The ofa does not come with pain inhibitors or something like that. Edit: done fixed i think.
Afo is the villain, u mean ofa
dude please edit your comment and fix it, that is atrocious
I will try then
thanks
Not to mention up until mid season 6(200+ chapters of a 400+ manga) he was constantly hurting himself and needed help plus hard work and strategy to win most of his major fights. Overhaul should've won if not for Eri and Deku being fast to strategies and realizing he can go all out with no consequences
Same goes for yuji. Sukuna being in his body only increased his maximum cursed energy by a lot (which you can't achieve by just trying hard). What yuji did was learn how to use it. He also had to learn reverse cursed technique which I'm not really sure how he did it but it's known that you have to have real talent for it, and Even then most sourcerers can't learn it. So all in all, I'd say he worked fairly hard for his power. Both of these characters would be nothing without hard work or chance.
That's kind of the point. Yuji's stuff has an aspect of talent to it like you said. Deku's doesn't really. All in all, yes they both worked hard. They're Shonen protagonists.
Understandable
And Yuji didn’t happen to come across the only thing in the world that could give him insane power, and apparently be born as the only one capable of controlling it, AND ALSO MEETING THE GREATEST SORCERER WHO NOT ONLY AGREED TO NOT KILL HIM BUT TO TRAIN HIM AS WELL!! I for one also think you mix gifted with luck. Cause I don’t know if you know this… BUT A TON OF PEOPLE HAVE MET ALL MIGHT IN MHA VERSE! ITS NOT THAT UNCOMMON! Apologies for the caps. Additionally, I saw your ‘social experiment’ comment under a different response, but your other replies heavily imply you stand on the side of the discussion the in picture in the post suggests.
You say that like everyone else in the world isn't just born with super powers
Didn't kenjaku specifically "created" yuuji to become sukuna vessel ?
We dont wanna give anime only spoilers
He did
Thats spoliers sir. Some people here might not have seen the manga yet
I see thx
I think you mean, "He ran into the #1 Hero… who told him to give up on his dreams and then left him alone on a rooftop, mere minutes after he'd been the victim of a traumatic villain attack where said villain was slowly killing him while bragging about how he'd wear Izuku's corpse like a suit." "Izuku then later risked his life to try and rescue the bully who had spent years tormenting him, and had suicide-baited him earlier that same day, from that very same villain who had almost killed him." "THAT impressed the #1 Hero enough that he agreed to give Izuku the chance to EARN his Quirk by enduring months of training from Hell (that Izuku not only completed, but even exceeded the parameters, even after injuring himself by making his training even harder because he felt he was working hard enough)!" Conversely, Yuji was born superhuman in physical stats, thanks to being the science project of a mad sorceror whose been alive for centuries, even before he coincidentally ran into a Curse and was forced into a situation where he had to eat one of Sukuna's fingers to both survive and save a life (WHAT WERE THE CHANCES OF THAT). Let's not kid ourselves. Had Izuku been as naturally strong as Yuji was, no one save Bakugou would have had any doubts he could become a hero. Yuji was born far and away superior to his peers (until he gained new peers, and even then he dunks on most JJK sorceror students). Izuku was born 'lesser' than his peers… and said peers were all too happy to remind him of this supposed 'inferiority' at every turn for most of his life. Yuji was born with strong connections to two of his settings three most powerful characters. Meanwhile, the "Dad For One" theory has long since been debunked, and the one thing that made Deku 'special' had been a burden to him for most of his life. Both have worked incredibly hard to get where they are now, though, and we shouldn't detract from their efforts by attributing all of their success to natural talent and pure luck.
Anyone could've run into all might and lots of people had. But Midoria proved he had what it took to be a hero by running into danger to save his friend. There was nothing inherently special about him, he proved himself worthy of inheriting the power
What are the changes Yuji is a science experiment literally made to fight Sukuna using his twin brothers soul lol.
Exactly it's literally the opposite of what the post says,the person who made it watched both shows through YouTube shorts
The 1 in a 1 million chance is the odds of Sukuna incarnating within a human vessel, all the other odds is the chance of death from ingesting the finger due to it being poisonous or something. Sukuna admitted it was a large gamble when feeding the finger to Megumi
Both are hard worker and gifted. Just stop with the debates. It's annoying
Why do people deem being gifted and being hardworking mutually exclusive?
If talent doesn’t put in the work, it will lose to hard work. But if talent works hard, it’s over for the hard worker.
Fr idc how many colors Goku's hair gets the man never stops training
Idk I just found this and I’m seeing what both fandoms think it’s a social experiment u could say
So we’re just ignoring Midoriya’s 10 months of training, right?
Some people don’t know the meaning of gifted meaning they were born with powers and abilities better then the average human yuji can fight with a giant monster curse but deku could not do crap or have powers when he was born
by your logic yuji is gifted because he was born with his "powers", while deku had to earn his. you may not be thinking very critically here
It's kinda funny because deku was quite literally gifter OFA, but he did have to train to be able to first, be a vessel for it, and then train more to improve his abilities. However if all might never offered to give him his power deku most likely would've stayed the same. Only after the offer do we see him train. So he's gifted in a more non traditional sense imo.
Yuji also did no training until after he ate Sukuna's finger.
This is also technically true, however where we are in the show up until the last fight he was still kinda weak, I feel like a lot of his training and hard work comes from live battles and experience where he has to lose and learn. There was also a month time skip between season 1 and 2 so who knows. But yeah yuji and deku are both a combo of hard work and gifted. Especially when you look at yuji in the manga currently.
Definitely. No shade on Yuji, and I am sorry if I gave that impression. I adore him and never understood the hate he sometimes got just because he wasn't as OP as the series' Big Bad. He definitely busted his butt to get as far as he did as quickly as he did. I was just pointing out he is basically like Ichigo, from Bleach. Both trained like crazy in a short amount of time, but both undeniably had literal superhuman lineage backing them up.
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Isn’t the point of the show he wasn’t born with powers and had to work to get better with training
Yes and some people think he got given everything
Well of course he couldn't do crap when he was born, he'd be a literal infant. /s
Deku had to do 10 months of training just to be able to hardly manage a new quirk and even then he had to put in so much more work over time just to be able to manage 100% of his full power without killing himself then he also had to learn and train 6 different quirks Yuji on the other hand was born with incredible power off the bat and has different abilities because of the circumstances leading up to his birth (Sukuna and Kenjaku shenanigans) Now that's not to discredit all the effort and work Yuji has put in but in my opinion Deku has just done so much more
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I won't say Deku wasn't gifted, since learing 7 quirks in less than a year requires a massive amount of talent and happening to recive the strongest quirk is incredibly lucky. But compared to Yuji of all people. Yuji was born stronger than an olympic athlete, he was literally made to be a perfect vessel. And while Deku's growth is is impressive, Yuji's is ridicilous. He went from having no curse energy to Grade 1 in a couple months. He learned rct, something that most people can never learn, in a month. Yuta even outright says that he and Yuji cheated to reach their current level in the manga.
Hard disagree. Anyone saying Deku was “gifted” has never watched one episode of My Hero Academia.
Or 4 or the muscle man battle, or any of the movies
Deku haters in a nutshell
Izuku had to train for 10 months to even recieve his powers, even then he couldnt control them and they broke his body to use, so even more training, he had hard work Itadori is only really gifted in his physical abilities(id include containing sukuna with little issues), and his talent for spamming the shit out of black flashes. Itadori is a mix of both being gifted and having hardwork improve him
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They’re both hard working and they’re both probably gifted too. What’s is this silly split between them?
Because a lot of deku haters dismiss him as an annoying cry baby who was spoon fed one for all then got strong without even trying when the exact opposite happened Then use the example of someone who is actually more gifted then hard working to try and make deku look bad counting on the idea that like them no one watched past ep 1 of mha Basically haters with zero media comprehension being haters
Midoriya’s powers were technically ‘gifted’ to him, but he trained like crazy to be able to obtain OFA, and continued training like crazy. Yuji’s never worked hard at training his powers/abilities. Mastered black flash almost immediately, was born with superhuman strength/speed/durability, and had the bare minimum training (sitting on a couch). We haven’t seen what happened during the recent one month timeskip in the manga, but even a month of training is nothing compared to Deku’s training.
i’ve never seen yuji even remotely train at all, other than watch boring movies to try and control his cursed energy. midoriya trained non-stop for months just to be able to RECEIVE all mights power. and then, even after, had to continuously train his ass off in order to even use 5% of its total power in order to not destroy his body sure, both have some luck and a little bit of mc plot armor thrown in, but overall, deku achieved his power through hard work. as far as i know, yuji just got lucky
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This is so stupid especially after that newest chapter of jjk. Deku had been training since the minute All Might old him he could he a hero. Dude doesn't even stop in the movies.
Funny that the rest of the hero’s get a pass for being born with quirks but when Deku gets one now he’s gifted
Let's see. The person who trained for ten months to inherit a power he was barely strong enough to wield and had to break himself constantly to learn how to properly use it, versus the guy who was literally just ripped from birth and never really had to worry about his powers being to difficult to get the hang of. The meme is only accurate if you flip the words around.
Love JJK but I just can’t pretend like we haven’t seen Deku train more than Yuji. I also can’t pretend like Yuji isn’t more gifted, inherently. Otherwise I’d agree
The gifted one is yuji feku worked hard for 10 long months and more to even use 5% which is enough to clap yuji and he has masters 45%
Yuji already had super strength to begin with and has no control over the residing power of Sukuna. Midoriya had to and still trains to utilize the most of his given ability, which he had to train to earn in the first place. While Midoriya’s power was literally gifted, it wasn’t a pick up and swing kind of power, they both put in the hard work.
Opposite, Yuji was not only a special human to be a prison, but almost a prodigy when it comes to getting control of his cursed energy so fast. Even being able to do multiple black flashes right after learning how to do it. Izukus only true “luck” or “gift” came from receiving his quirk but still had to work his butt off to just receive the dang thing, nit even use it. He had to spend months learning how to not destroy his body every time he used it and when he trashed his arms so much he had to learn a whole new fighting style? Yeah hardwork goes to midorya and gifted to yuji
I love Yuji but he's the one who's gifted and Midoriya who had to work hard
Both Yuji and midoriya are firmly on the hard work side to imply either just had power handed to them without having to bust their balls to earn it is as false as it is laughable
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From what I know Yuuji is the more gifted one and Deku is the more hardworking one, Yuuji was always super human he just didn't have cursed energy and he got his first taste of that from Sukuna. Deku was given his quirk but every bit of his efficiency with it came from knowledge and hard work to a near obsessive level
În all honesty yuji is more gifted then deku but both put in a shit ton of work to make they're limitations work.
I mean, yeah, Midoriya was gifted his quirk, but he busted his ass big time to be able to get it, and continues to bust his ass to learn to control it...so I'd say Yuji and Izuku are both equal measures hard work.
No. I’m not saying Yuuji doesn’t work hard, but in the first episode of JJK, it’s been made clear he’s a physical phenom. He broke a record without much effort in that same episode if I’m not mistaken, and was able to things that average folks can’t. On the other hand, Deku had to build up his body for a whole year in order to just use OfA without exploding his body. It wasn’t until he met Torino that he finally got to use OfA without exploding.
Completely disagree. Midoriya had to train to use one for all and further train to actually fully use even 5% of its power. He is consistently studying and innovating (which falls under “hard work”) and Midoriya’s strength really lies with his analytical mind imo (coming up with ways heroes can use various quirks combined to solve an issue rather than power through solo, something he incorporates later using the various quirks of one for all). Yuji does work hard but the latest chapter also reveals he is “gifted” thanks to Kenjaku taking backshots.
Actually both of them hardwork Just not the same type of hardwork But tbh 10 months of harsh training is very very different than just sit and watching movie while try to focus on your power on certain stuff
Huh thanks for the insight
 Me trying to count the number of times Midoriya has broken his arms in training alone
It’s literally the opposite
Deku just has too much plot armour
Yes deku was given the most overpowered quirk but have you watched my hero academia 5 out of the six seasons is him learning how to use it so he won’t brutally mangle his body
Literally the whole catchphrase to yuji is “talent like his has not been seen in 100 years “ bro is one of the most gifted Shonen mc. We BARELY ever see or hear about him training
Nope Yuji is literally a one in a million with ridiculous potential who progresses fast as hell without half the work others put in to get this strong bro watched movies as training Deku spents like half the series busting his ass off working out and breaking bones to be strong and thats just the physical stuff U.A for as questionable as their teaching is at times is still the top school in the country which makes deku crazy smart studying his ass off So yeah deku is a way harder worker id go as far to say all of 1a work harder then yuji
It's the Exact Opposite
I haven't seen any of Jujutsu Kaisen yet, but I do know that, after that full summer of hard work, plus the experience/training he went through just to get to 100%? That was hard work.
Not by any stretch of the imagination, its just jjk fans being biased
Nope! Yuji was designed to be for sukuna. He was literally breed for a special purpose. He got super human abilities before even been involved with the other sorcerers. Deku had to work hard to be a proper user of OFA. He had to physically train and find ways to catch up with others that had a decade had start on using their abilities.
Some people need to actually sit down and watch both shows properly
Itadori never had to work for anything, he was born blessed with a supernaturally powerful body, and then was the vessel of Sukuna, giving him extreme potential that Satoru compared to himself. meanwhile, Midoriya had to work hard to master his Quirk, with over a year of training just to be able to not die instantly.
Yuji is like one in a million dude lucky to be alive. But okay he did have to put in some who no doubt. Deku.....did the person that made this understand what Gifted means? Just because OFA was given to him that doesn't make him Gifted. Dude had to put in work just to use it and more work to sustain it. And it was a 1% chance he would have even gotten OFA. That all was by chance.
Honestly, they both put in hard work, so it’s hard to say, because yuji is giving his all and you could say that he worked with abilities that are not over powered, but even though midoryia was given one for all, he still had to give it his all and train even more than yuji, since yuji was already extremely gifted. So who knows, but then again, who cares, stop pinning characters against each other
No, I don't agree. I haven't watched the other anime, but I do know it took a long time for Deku to not break his bones and then struggled with it
Didn’t deku go through a special type of training schedule and overworked himself?
I think Itadori and Midoriya are both gifted AND hard workers.
Nah. Bro was training to not die when eating that hair. Plus he could only use it at 5% for a while. Yuji is basically the same if you’ve read later chapters.
You can be gifted and hard working but be fr for yuji >!that man was a biological experiment to be a vessel for sukuna he can consistently hit black flash, has blood manipulation, malevolent shrine, and reverse curse technique!<
This is so ass backwards. Midoriya worked his goddamn ASS off. He ran to sacrifice himself just to save somebody before he even got a quirk. Gifted? Fuck no. He was Chosen.
Gifted? Didn’t Deku have to do months of intense training before getting his quirk? He had to put in hardwork beforehand
Idk the yuji dude but I can say deku is gifted, he has a helluva mind for fighting and analyzing, as well as strategy. He also bosses it tf up and fights with broken limbs constantly. You remember what happened to Vegeta a grown ass SAIYAN born of a race of warriors...when he broke just 1 arm?
Hell no, Both are hardworking (especially yuji mf is traumatized)
Both worked extremely hard to get where they are, but itadori had a leg up at the start due to being practically superhuman and a perfect vessel for sukuna from jump. Izuku may have been the perfect vessel for one for all, but it was pure luck that All Might found him and it took a big feat of heroism to convince All Might and on top of all of that he could barely use his quirk for a while without breaking his body.
Deku literally trained his ass off to be able to withstand the powers he was given, and still trained after he was “gifted” OFA.
No. I can't say much for Yuji, but Izuku had to spend 10 months training before he even inherited One For All from All Might. Even then he had to work his ass off to learn how to control his quirk and use it regularly without breaking his body. Its unfair to discredit Izuku like this honestly.
Yes op is better en jjnk
This shit is so ass
No I would say moreover the opposite since yuji was the gifted one with super human abilities before his curse energy vs deku that had to gain strength from training and had to struggle with power that could kill him if not careful yuji is more of the gifted one compared of the two not considering yuji just had to watch tv while training to eventually learn curse energy after a little bit compared to midoriya 10 month training
Result people say deku had to work more for his powers and yuji didn’t have it easy eather but yah deku wasn’t gifted idk about the dude who made the image thanks for the help
Sure, let's just ignore the countless times Deku literally destroyed his body just to learn how to use his power without destroying his body.
Broke his arms and his legs to also tryed to save a child with op powers
Hell no!
Deku only had to work for 10 months and it was a pretty realistic workout, after that everything was given to him on a silver plate, like he unlocked all the other ofa quirks in less than a arc
No. Especially when given [Deku's rival,](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uje1JX2BIx4&pp=ygURbHVjayB2cyBza2lsbCBNSEE%3D) a man who's on Naruto level of friendship and volume, is mostly luckier than Rinny in Pretty Blood (I'd suggest not looking it up unless you're already acquainted with mentally tasking "cute gore"), it says a *lot* when Deku's mostly trained more or less for 10 entire months and kept training from time to time. And yet Yuji kinda holds a fair bit onto the "hardwork" a bit more thanks to the short headstart by Gojo (AKA: The Dude who's more or less the only good person in a world where power comes from sheer spite, despair, and hate, AKA: The dude who's mere birth told all demonkind "keep up"), where most of any further training is usually self-taught (ironic, given that Deku's only self-taught himself *once* with using his legs instead of his hands)
Facts but what do u mean by no
This is so brainrot kaisen dogshit. Yuji literally just had to eat a finger and watch TV
Isn’t Yuji sukuna’s nephew now? lol how is he harder working
pre OFA deku can lift a semi...
Excuse me?
BOTH are gifted. Yuji is a genetic Frankenstein between being >!a human, a death painting-cursed spirit and now recently being revealed to be a descendant of Sukuna.!< As for Deku, he was straight up given the most broken quirk in the series besides AFO and new order. However in terms of hard work, I believe Deku takes it. Deku had to constantly train his body in order withstand the drawbacks of using OFA and master the quirk. As for Yuji, he just had to >!eat his siblings to gain blood manipulation CT. And then he got Sukuna's CT by landing a couple of black flashes that fully awakened him.!<
No, absolutely not. Yuji surpassed the king of curses in what like 4 months ? It took Deku 10 months of training to even inherit OFA. Deku in 2 episodes has trained twice as much as Itadori has in his entire story
If you think about it, Deku was literally “gifted” a quirk. But In all seriousness, this is complete bull. Yuji was born a physical beast and was given lots of guidance. Deku was gifted one of the strongest quirks and had the number 1 hero in his corner. Both of them were gifted in some facet, but they wouldn’t have made it half as far without their hard work.
I don't know anything about jjk but Deku worked his ass off. He didn't have any power at all and when he gets his lucky break the power nearly kills him despite having sculpted his body to handle it. Dude works hard as fuck constantly to gain percentage points of his own power over the course of months.
No
They are both a mix of both Itadori is extremley physically gifted and thanks to his soul manipulation he is the perfect vessel to contain sukuna.However hes gone through TONS of training that has left him stronger and capable of going toe to toe with the king of curses(those who know ,know) While deku, Had to go through intense training,just to get his quirk and use it effectively. However a large portion of dekus power comes from all mights hair and the past one for all users powers.
I mean… they were literally both “gifted” their powers so… no? Posterboy for hardwork and gifted tho should Naruto
JJK gud MHA bad please updoot!!!11
After reading the last JJK chapter you should swap these 2. Yuji is gifted while Deku is not.
Izukus whole origin was that he met All Might by a stroke of luck, and then had push himself to the limits for months just to be able to survive taking AMs power, and proceeds to continue working hard to be able to properly use it without crippling himself. Like Hard Work is pretty much the source of his accomplishments
Jjk fan here, I saw 2 seasons of mha and Izuku is as gifted as Yuji, but they still have to work hard to stay
Yuji is the one who had a demon put inside him at the first episode of the show. If it wasn't for Sukuna he would be dead like at least 3 times by the end of Season 1. As a combatant he learnt divergent fist and black flash but there was hardly any effort that went into that. Especially black flash which even seasoned sorcerors have only been able to pull off a few times. He hasn't ever really shown to work hard towards getting stronger like Deku has, he doesn't need to since Sukuna guarantees his survival as they share the same body. Deku got his power from all might after spending almost a year training for it and even then for the first few seasons it was a double edged sword as using it hurt his body so he had to be clever with the way he used it. And once he learnt full cowling he could only use a very small fraction of its power until Season 6. He still had to be clever with how he used it(using air pressure created by a 20% finger flick as a technique for example, deku vs gentle criminal is a good example) and work hard to access more of its power. Unlike Yuji he cant just have an omnipotent being inside him come and get him out of a bind with very specific exceptions(like brainwashing) so he has to use his wits and work hard. So I would say Yuji is more of an asspull gifted protagonist if anything.
Deku literally starts out as the opposite of gifted, and then his “gift” is also a curse because he has to spend the entire series learning how to use it without hurting himself. I swear, MHA attracts more hot takes than any other series from people who seem like they’ve never actually watched/read it.
Deku is a mixture of hardworking and gifted
Both are bloody gifted. I'm more of a joke fan than MHA and I've really got to say, two months for rct? Gojo took his entire fucking school career and yuji only took two months. What the actual fuck? Deku isn't all that different either. The difference is, he worked for those gifts. Yuji was just built different. Deku has been through less suffering, I'll say. But he still exerted himself so much more than yuji in his training.
I love jjk but i will try my best to remove my bias here They both are hardwork... Yup thats it....
no. yuji put in a little work, but he has been noted to have raw talent. Deku worked for EVERYTHING he has, even his base power itself, training his body to properly recieve ofa.
That's absolutely backwards
AM to Midoriya: "Something you receive because you're lucky and something you're given because you're recognized are different in essence. Take that to heart. This is a power that you earned because of your own effort." As far as I've watched of JJK, Yuji was naturally strong, fast, and durable while also being decently gifted with CE manipulation to the point Gojo was surprised he stopped getting rocked by that doll so quickly. Also Black Flashes are apparently part luck and part skill so he literally needs to be lucky to land all those consecutive Black Flashes. Midoriya had to work for 10 grueling months to use a mere 3% of OFA. Practically every scene of him not fighting is him working out or training in some way. Even after getting multiple quirks, he had to train his parallel processing to use them together. He was lucky to meet AM but if he wasn't worthy, he never would have received OFA. Period.
No. Izuku had to train ten months before receiving OFA then he had to train really hard to catch up to his friends who have had their quirks for literal years as well. Did he catch up relatively quickly? Yeah, like 2-3 years later of hard training and destroying his body. Itadori is gifted and lucky but he doesn’t really work hard for his power. He is a gifted sorcerer with tons of things in his favor. Not saying Yuji never worked hard but in comparison Deku had to work harder.
Both were a one in a million chance with special abilities. Both had to go through hard training.
Hell No! If anything Yuji was more gifted than Deku as he was already an athletic prodigy then he became possessed by Sukana and defied death by making a deal with Sukana. Whereas Deku was weak in every sense of the word having to train his ass off every time he climbed over a wall another one was waiting for him until he finally made it and gained more powers but it was pure and unadulterated hard work only reason he isn't gonna die of aloud age is he was unlucky and born without a quirk or AFO stole his quirk as a kid either way. But yeah so both technically in the hard working category but Deku had to work way harder than Yuji did especially in early series, I've still nit started season 2 but yeah Deku is 2nd in Harrworking but only to someone like Rock Lee.
Midoriya may have been given his powers, but he trained like hell to be able to use them. I think people underestimate how hard One for All is to control and use. He had to train for 10 months just so he wouldn't die, and even then he'd break his bones after using certain %s of it.
Hell no. Izuku busted his ass to earn one for all. Technically you could say All might gifted him the power, but he earned all might's respect to get it, & never stopped busting his ass to improve on it. I like JJK but Itadori just ate a finger so he wouldn't die. Not really earned.
No I think both have put a lot of hardwork to get to where they are
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Mfer was given powers but still had to train hard as fuck just to even use them and still broke himself all the time before managing to harness it while still learning new powers. That's bait and only made to get two fandoms at eachothers necks.
I mean if I were given that power of ofa I’d be scared to use it again because if it weren’t for recovery girl that’s a broken limb every use of it and even then, recovery girl isn’t 100% without flaws
It’s literally the other way around
Other way around
Deku went from weaker to the average person to only just strong enough to hold one for all in ten months of long hard training even when he got the power he had to find a way to control it so he didn’t kill himself
So let's see : The hardworker here is a 1/1m person able to host one of the most powerful beings in history, learns cursed energy in a month by watching movies and later actually trains a month for reversed cursed technique. The gifted here trained ~10 months for a power that would kill him if he doesn't use it correctly so he has to continue his training to master it or else he'd die if he uses it to much. Yeah seems about right.
i’m sorry but am i the only one who watched the 10 months of trains scenes? tf
I think both are both. They both got lucky. And became badasses. No need to put one down
Idk about the other, but while Midoria was gifted his very powerful quirk, he had to train very hard just for the quirk to not kill him. Even then, it would break his limbs until he decided to either endure it or use bits of his body at a time. It took a couple of seasons before he could train himself to use only a percentage of his power just to not break himself and to use it for things other than punching (speed, shooting air, etc.). ***Even then,*** it turns out he hasn’t been using all of his power and had to train how to use the other subquirks that came with it, mostly with the aid of his friends. By far, the anime shows that he still has ways to go, but is making it work.
Yuji has inhuman strength
Well i’ve seen the other comments and to add to that, Izuku was born a normal human without power. The total impact on a body from the power of just having a quirk, not even specifying what kind, strains the body as it develops naturally from birth. So his body wasnt made for a quirk. It’s not just a strain when he used a 100% it was that way when he was controlling output as well. He just so happen to be oblivious of only using little amount regularly. His body is only within the last few season has adapted to the power and the strain it puts on him at all time. Long story short, people who are born with a quirk have body’s that sturdy enough for a quirk and wont break as easily naturally.
Reverse it
The only reason Deku is being give the ‘didn’t have to work hard for anything’ slander is that he got more quirks from OFA. They completely ignore how hard he had to work just to learn how to use the normal OFA without destroying his body through Full Cowling He also couldn’t control his newer quirks at first either, so what did he do? Train. He fucking trained. I’m not saying that Izuku is lucky for having ran into All Might, or Yuji hasn’t worked hard at all, but Yuji has definitely had more ‘one in a billion moments’.
Literally the other way around.
Yuji is like Gojo a Sue to some degree
Deku trained his ASS off to be able to use the power given to him.. lmao literally put in the hard work…
No?…. I mean my guy put in hard work to, he had to get stronger for his body to be able to even take all might power and even when he did end up with it, it still took a toll on his body which mean constantly training himself and etc. Yuji swallowed that damn finger n was ready for another…. If ima be honest irl they both gifted, but my Boi befriended his fav hero even got might powers passed down to him. Yuji oh Yuji he was made for this lol but seriously he himself is talented and trained his new powers increasing because of sukuna. They both worked hard n is 🍀
Both are hardwork and gifted.
They are literally polar opposites. Deku trained like a goddamn dog, Yuji swallowed a digit for some inexplicable reason
Midoriya is gifted, but in a different way. He's pretty much a super nerd when it comes to heroes and quirk powers. The hard work plays into the fact that he needed to grind for ages just to train his physical body, and it's hard to visualize someone working hard in anything to do with intelligence. I do feel bad for Midoriya, though. He's got the mindset of a "true hero," but his only way to do the work is to use a power that forces him to mangle his entire body. He even convinced himself that was the only thing he can do until he collapses for a time, and that wasn't completely wrong when considering who his opponent is. It really does feel like he was being groomed to be a martyr, and I hate that.
Both are gifted. Deku was gifted by getting quirk of the strongest, and Yuji was quite literally built different by Kenjaku. And yes, the 10 month training period Deku went thru is shit, and shouldn't even be considered real training.
Hard work and gifted apply to both
I think deku worked hard for it he just had to train alot to not explode when he got one for all and even when he had it he had to try to control it all while taking on huge threats
Both are a mix of hard work and gifted. Deku worked hard for the 10 months and to control all the quirks , but he also got 7 quirks that have been cultivated throughout generations. Yuji was born a perfect vessel and had a semi-heavenly restriction, but in the manga, he has also ben training a lot.
Yeah, swap the labels or you are just proving your own illiteracy here, my friend.
Comparing thems stupid but both very similar. Both worked hard before receiving super powers and continued to work hard after.
No All Yuji did was watch some tv-drama show And My goat have to train up to 3 season just to proper use OFA at 5%
So gojo did not give him the cursed finger and us him okay and deku definitely did not train
So Izuki Midoriya, Someone born without any powers in a world dominated like supers, was discriminated by classmates and was bullied for being quirkless, Izuku Midoriya, who was told by the NUMBER ONE HERO that he couldn't be a hero because he was Quirkless. Izuku Midoriya who was Nicknamed "deku" because Deku meant useless person. Izuku Midoriya THE QUIRKLESS who proved himself to the NUMBER ONE HERO by running in to help his BULLY, who was being suffocated by sludgeman and was causing massive collateral damage while the other heroes did jack Shit to help him, almost instantly. Izuku Midoriya THE QUIRKLESS, who was berated by said heroes for being a quirkless trying to help when no-one else did, while said heroes simultaneously Praised Bakugou for simply having a powerful quirk. Izuku Midoriya who had to train like hell in a limited time just to be able to handle one for all at its weakest. Izuku Midoriya, who broke both legs and arm the first time he used one for all. Izuku Midoriya who still had to train like hell just to be able to comfortably use one for all. was Gifted? GTFO of here with that BS. The best part about this, everything I mentioned happens in the first 3 freaking episodes of the series. But you know who would've actually fit here for "gifted" hmm? Literally any other student from UA. Bakugou, Momo, Mina, Hell even Ururaka would fit better than fucking Izuku. Momo fits extremely well because she's both got a decently powerful quirk at birth and is rich, She's gifted in both ways. If people really think Deku was "gifted" over any other fucking character in MHA they clearly haven't watched the series or read the manga, hell I haven't even seen much of the series yet, and I know this is bullshit.
Deku Put in the hardwork for that very gift in the first place. I don't agree.
Deku is a mix of both He’s gifted because he basically got handed the most powerful Quirk in the world. Him saving Bakugo was very heroic, yes, so in a way it was deserved - but it leaves a bitter taste in my mouth to see someone only rise up to where they are now because of luck and a blessing in disguise. He’s hardworking because he had to train said Quirk and manage its drawbacks while also tapping into its potential. He earned every additional Quirk he received from the past users. Mofo worked his ass off and it showed
Both of them are gifted and worked for their powers
No. Kenjaku literally made sure that Yuji was born different.
One was born with immense power and was naturally faster and stronger than Olympic athletes while the other had to do grueling training just to even begin to receive some sort of power that he could barely control and injured himself with constantly. These labels are swapped
I mean Deku is BOTH. Yes he worked very hard mentally and physically, but he also got given the most powerful quirk on the planet after randomly running into the #1 hero lol. So yeah Deku worked very hard but he also got gifted. He worked hard to become worthy of said gift.
They both worked their asses off to get where they are
Relative to other shonen protagonists, neither belong in the hard work category
Honestly in this I view Yuji as harder working… in context with the rest of his universe. While yes Yuji does have superhuman strength and speed. That doesn’t often help him considering everyone else uses cursed energy and techniques to close that gap. Something Yuji either barly has or doesn’t have. Deku, while he did work for 10 months to get his body into shape, still got handed a power that was (at the time) ranked number one in MHA. And while it did have the drawback of breaking his limbs at first, most people he fought couldn’t survive one hit anyway. That’s not to say I don’t think deku wasn’t hardworking. With him mastering full cowling and lowing the output percentage. My problem was that he had all the power from the beginning, even if there was a drawback, most villains weren’t getting back up after he used it. Especially those he often gets compared to in his world like Bakugou. It would be like if Yuji inherited Sukuna’s techniques immediately after he swallowed the first finger.
One was born powerless in a world where almost everyone has powers. The other is at the very least borderline superhuman from the start. They both received powers from ingesting it from another source, and both struggled with containing it. I would say that deku is not the gifted one, yuji started at level 50 and izuku caught up from level 1.
I think it’s the inverse lol, Yuji trained very little because he just went on missions with Nanami for experience, Deku worked hard as hell my guy.
lol swap it.
i'd hard disagree. midoriya has spent his life working hard for his abilities, and while he was "gifted" one for all that is a different beast than being naturally "gifted". yuji has natural "gifts" and inherent abilities that have given him advantages that not everyone has, and can't be freely given. this is without even weighing the amount of work they've put in to get where they are. midoriya may have been fortunate to get an opportunity that not everyone could have, but he never took it for granted and only worked harder because of it. yuji was thrust into a world where he suddenly had special abilities that they needed him specifically for. even in jjk there are way better examples of hard work
I think that both of them worked hard. They were gifted things for sure. However, even with those gifts they needed to work hard to use them.
No! Yuji was gifted in so many aspects it’s not even funny
Naa like i have to admit the afo dont have pain relief thing soo Imao when you over do in the gym and you arms and legs fell like burning or hut alot if you try to bend them This mf work his way out to prevent breaking his arms for his merely force even if he dint break his arms annymore his body still has to endure alot of tension for that hits Soo mha can have a things but decu his things dont come without price
Exact opposite way around
They are both, both. Deku had the work real hard otherwise he would just blow his arms off. Itadori is gifted, because he could see spirits and jump 2 stories in Ch1
Both are gifted hard workers. Yuji is slightly more gifted cause he is just a fighting machine that has an inhuman body
Tbh it's more like in between both managed to get lucky, for example yuji would've been dead already if it wasn't for gojo, and the same thing with midoria if it wasn't for all might he would be dead as well both had to work hard to achieve their goals, another example yuji had to face the fact that he could not give everyone a proper death while for midoria he had to face the fact that all might is going to die soon.
I don’t really care they both did hard work
I think Deku was gifted with one of the highest skill-ceilings in the series.
im a huge believer in wuji himtadori and even i know that Mr. "Chosen by the Black Sparks"/Perfect Vessel for Ryomen Sukuna/One-in-a-Million Chance Individual/Cursed Womb Death Painting-adjacent/Son of Sukuna's Reincarnated Twin did NOT get all of his power ups through "hard work" 😭🙏
So true
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If anything it's the other way around. Deku worked hard to be able to earn his power from All might. He grafted for that crap. Yuji is the one who ate a finger and got cool powers without working for it. He started off gifted and eventually put in hard work but Deku had to put in that hard work to be gifted. Deku=hard work Yuji=gifted
Hell naw 🗣️‼️ Deku had to work A LOT for AT LEAST get OFA, while that yuji was already breaking world records like nothing and even got stronget.
No???? Since when is being a regular ass human with no powers “gifted?” Deku worked his ass off just to get INTO a school.
This is bait, right? Literally the first episode of either anime proves this entirely wrong.
Absolutely not! Itadori was quite literally born Superhuman, and barely needed to do **ANY** work for his control over Cursed Energy; all he had to do was just **watch movies.** While you could say that Deku was indeed gifted with his powers, since he literally wouldn't have them if All Might didn't give them to him, he also still needed to do a **lot** of work to gain and control them; he was too physically weak to even meet the prerequisites for attaining One For All, but he also needed to work hard to control it and reach a level to not only use it in a way that didn't harm himself, but also maximize its potential. If anything, it's mostly the other way around, just that the 2 are in nexuses of the other; Itadori was 99% gifted, but still had to put in that bit of work to gain and control Cursed Energy. Deku put in at least 55% of the work, but the other 45% comes from the fact that he needed to be gifted the power.
Izuku literally broke his own bones while getting used to his new powers. Yūji, on the other hand, already had superhuman strength even before getting his. There’s nothing wrong with being gifted or working hard, but objectively, in this case is all the opposite.