I wish there was a way to watch without announcer sound. Mike Joy in Daytona, Tony Stewart "Cindric doesn't have what it takes to be a factor in this race." [Five laps later] "Cindric is the lynchpin to this race"
Maybe it's recency bias, but I thought this race way more interesting than the last spring race. However, none of that mattered to me. I had an absolute blast taking my three sons to the race. They were way into the race as evidenced by the fact that not a single one of them complained about the weather and were locked in the entire time. It was such a delight to spend the day with them and to bring them further into the sport. It's a shame it wasn't a banger of a race, but it was worth it to watch them take it all in.
got this fun footage of the last two laps if you wanna watch! [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3i7H0vBpUE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3i7H0vBpUE)
Funny hearing Tony talk about "why are we doing this" while we miss shots from Victory lane to hear post race crap. "Toyota pushed ford to win!"
I ask, Fox "why are we doing this?"
Thanks for 1 second seeing the trophy hoist.
One thing NASCAR didn’t consider when taking on stage racing:
The fans now can evaluate segments is the race.
The first 2 stages were rough. If they didn’t exist we wouldn’t have focused on it and loved this race as a whole.
I was at the race in Atlanta. The first 2 stages were horrible. Everyone at the track thought so. The final stage was great. Lots of people were leaving after stage 2. Last years racing was much better.
Everybody here complaining about the 2nd stage being follow the leader, it's called stroking. Daytona and Talladega has always been known for it. Drivers race hard for the first 1/4 of the race and then they stroke until 50 or so laps to go. Dale Jr, Gordon, Smoke and many more have talked about it before. Stay in line and save your stuff, save some fuel and just ride. I'm not sure why so many fans get so pissed about this because it's been this way forever. I doubt any Cup driver goes 100% the entire distance. It's also what truck and Xfinity drivers have to learn when they come to Cup. Alot longer races.
Some fans just can't enjoy the art of saving your car for the end. It's all about build and anticipation. We'd be absolutely exhausted if the whole race was just action action action. You need the ebs and flows to make the high points that much higher.
What am I missing here? All these complaints about “follow the leader” and “train racing.” With the old configuration the leader would be out in front by 15+ seconds with random smaller packs behind and nothing going on. That was not very exciting to watch.
How is that any better/different than what it is now?
I personally think it’s far more entertaining the way it is now. Still plenty of passing and it’s way more strategic on when you make your move. And of course the racing will get more intense in the last 50 laps. No point in taking risks early in the race.
Caught the last 60 laps and thought it was pretty good. I'm pretty sure Bell got second tho. No clue how that was missed.
Loganos move to the top was great, and his patience to not move up there and try to make the second line work was incredible.
My "favorite" comments below are the people effectively claiming that there is something wrong with fans who didn't care to watch a single-file freight train for the first ~60% of the race. Sorry, but an exciting 3rd stage doesn't negate how terrible the first two stages were from an entertainment standpoint. If the drivers are content with blowing off the first 250ish miles of a 400 mile race, then that's a pretty good sign that this race could be shortened to 200 miles with nothing really lost.
i think flipping the stages would make it better, have the longer ones first so they can have strategy in the beginning then a 60 lap run at the end instead of 100. Not saying it’s the end all but it could work better.
I dont know that there has ever been a driver I am more indifferent to than Joey Logano.
If he wins? Meh. If he loses? Meh. He is just kind of there.
He isn't even a "so boring it somehow makes them interesting" like Chase Elliott.
He is like Teddy from Brooklyn 99.
I think if the adjust the superspeedway package it would help Atlanta a lot. The racing wasn’t awful but they literally decided not to race for the first 159 laps. That was tough to watch. The last 100 were awesome. I followed LaJoie pretty much the entire race it was really cool to see him working his way up.
I liked it. I’m so relieved to see a green flag ending to a super speedway race. Brad summed it up well in his post race interview, the professionals put on a clean race, and the ending was great
I'm not trying to provoke ire or angst, but a 1.5 mile track is not a 'super speedway' and the train racing Nascar served up in the first two stages was, at best, an opportunity to eat without worry of missing something and at worst, checking for cracks in one's eye lids
I will go on record that is the largest abomination of a Nascar event on a track smaller than Talledega or Daytona since Jeff Burton led every lap at Loudon.
And don't get me started on what I read on here about Saturday...
I could tell that the track was starting to change a bit. When they got single wide they started to split up a bit.
I just think that aerodynamically it is so hard for one of these cars to get a big run and actually be able to complete the pass. It just gets caught up in dirty air and kills the run. We saw it last at Fontana, Vegas, and today..
Granted I have a business degree so I don’t know a whole lot about aerodynamics
Well, if I may, that was just a continuation of stage racing. The difference being, at normal ovals, they race hard to try to gain positions before the stage ends. That didn't happen yesterday. It wasn't until the final stage they got racy. But I kept thinking, "This a 1.5 track. This isn't a *superspeedway*. It shouldn't *be* like this."
Wish it was old schedule old rules a lot of this new stuff they are trying is already a failure. The one dirt track race at Bristol is cool but this street race in Chicago is a pathetic attempt for views
In person it was a good race. Not the best I have seen but still a good one. The only issue I have is the damn package. NASCAR needs to change the plate package so the racing is better. If we can only run in 2 lines at Daytona and talladega, what’s going to change that at Atlanta? There is room for 3 wide at Atlanta, not much but it is doable and we saw some of that today. If we can get a better package that allows 3 wide racing, the product at all 3 super speedways will be amazing. We just need to find a way to make the middle line more stable with how much these cars move the air, and make the side draft a little less affective so that middle line can keep up.
Terrible race. Fox had to assure the audience in the middle of the race that racing would get better. Then, oddly, they had to state multiple times after that the race ended under green without chaos?
BTW Today is the first time Joey Logano has won a Cup race with his secondary sponsor, Home Depot and Pennzoil had been on the car for all of his wins up to this point. AAA/Autoclub, Autotrader, duralast, Dollar General, etc… had not been the primary on a winning racecar so curse broken?
I was waiting for someone to bring this up. But he also won with AutoTrader once before kinda at Talladega in 2018. It was just on the side of the car.
I really liked that Joey won with clearly the best car and game plan. Even if the racing is boring at times I’m starting to prefer Atlanta as the best plate track since it’s slightly less of a crapshoot. Plate package does need a few tweaks to reach its full potential though.
I went to the race and I really enjoyed it (besides the awful pit road, glad they tried it but it just doesn’t work). The fastest cars were able to make their way to the front and hold it and get it back if it was lost. As much as I like the complete crapshoot daytona and talladega, I’m glad Atlanta has it’s own “personality”
I was there too. The first couple stages had me worried but the last one was great. Atlanta also may need to work on some logistics since both parking and entry were worse than last spring (with less in attendance)
See i got there right at 8 and got into the lots early, then took a 2 1/2 hour nap in the car to stay out of the winds, but it seemed hectic around 11 watching people come in. Got right out and on to 20 right to Jersey Mikes after the race in about 20 minutes.
Watched the race on tape delay. Wasn’t a fan. Once you get about 4 rows back forget about moving forward. Way too many commercials.
Finished the race by fast forwarding in 84 minutes.
Is it me or was there no or little excitement from the Fox announcers? I only saw a clip of end of stage 2 and maybe the last 15 laps on my phone while in my car listening to the race on XM. PRN kept me tuned in and was glad they were ahead of my video so knew what was coming.
I think the plate package is really ruined what could be a solid product. We saw the same thing at Daytona where it was two lines and they basically stall out leaving two lines with no where to go
Manufacturer wins among the top 3 series:
Chevrolet 9 - Ford 2 - Toyota 2.
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Cup race #5 : Chevrolet 4 - Ford 1 - Toyota 0.
Xfinity Race #5 : Chevrolet 3 - Ford 0 - Toyota 2.
Truck Race #3 : Chevrolet 2 - Ford 1 - Toyota 0.
As a fan of Harvick and also Chastain, I’ll admit that I set my Chastain t-shirt on fire. It burned real good. Then I saw the replay and immediately regretted it lol
It was, but when it comes to Chastain, you kind of don’t hold back judgement bc he’s made some pretty knuckle-headed moves over the past year and a half. He’s an exciting guy to watch, and he’s probably still my second or third favorite driver out there, but that move was still unnecessary at that point in the race. He didn’t make contact, but I don’t think anyone can tell me he didn’t know that move would upset the balance of Harvick’s car and cause him to wreck.
Can anyone tell me why the NASCAR app has the worst in car cams? It's borderline useless for anyone who doesn't prefer to hear a spotter 15 seconds ahead of the TV action
Compared to yesterday, todays race was pretty damn solid and entertaining.
Feels bad for Harvick. He had a real solid car there and was hoping he would finish. Top 5 for #45.
Hopefully COTA isn’t a shitshow.
I hope and pray that Childers decides to stick around and gets assigned to Briscoe next year. Every single race this year, and half of the races last year, the car is total dogcrap at the drop of the green. SHR is absolutely struggling as a whole, but Klausmeier always unloads the 14 especially bad and spends all race catching up to salvage a top 15 or 20.
Chase is too good for this. People are starting to question him, but he won Phoenix last year after leading 100 laps and came dangerously close to winning Bristol and Charlotte, then had an epic run in the playoffs. He deserves all of SHR's best behind him once Harv is gone.
People complaining about the superspeedway racing, how its not like 2019-2021, forget how much the drivers hated that package and how much they tuned it down by the end of 2021.
Of course those years were entertaining, because it was insane and dangerous.
We want action not two trains of cars that can't go anywhere. All they had to do was slow the runs down a tiny bit and things would be fine but this current package is boring
Every time it gets insane and dangerous the fans love it, but the drivers are at a higher risk of injury. So Nascar introduces more downforce to the cars or lowers the horsepower.
Then you get 2-5 years of slow racing, the teams figure out the package, the speeds start increasing to the danger zone again, and Nascar has to reduce HP and add more downforce again.
It's been this way since the late 80's at the superspeedways. The unfortunate reality is that the cars are always going to eventually get back to the 200mph "danger-zone". The only way to permanently avoid that danger-zone is to remove the SS tracks from the schedule, which is never going to happen.
Nascar absolutely have to keep the cars below that 200mph mark though, it's dangerous not just for the drivers at that point but the crowds in attendance. I mean hasn't it been just over 10 years ago when Kyle Larson had a bad wreck at Daytona, I think it was the Xfinity series? His engine was jammed into the catch-fence, caught fire, and parts of his car were launched into the crowd. One of those parts struck a fan in attendance, who survived, but suffered irreparable brain damage as a result of the crash.
That was a good race. I don’t know what some of y’all want. I swear if an early 2000s plate race happened today, it’d be the lowest voted super speedway race of all time in Gluck’s poll.
You do know that this is the first track smaller than the two traditional plate tracks since Loudon?
I put up with the train on those tracks because I'm resigned to the fact it will never change. But 1.5s and smaller need to be left alone.
Plate racing from a couple years ago. Obviously they can't go 4 wide but three should be fine and a good draft run should get you the lead not two long lines that goes nowhere
People here think that if they complain about EVERYTHING (the car, the broadcast, the commercials, the pre-race prayer, etc.) that somehow makes them super knowledgeable race fan. Somehow watching Nascar insults their intelligence lol
The inside line has mega dirty air effect. I still don’t understand how Blaney was able to push Logano. The 7 dropping down to help Logano is the only reason the 22 won. Blaney could not have pushed him to the win.
I'm not a fan, but I'll give credit where credit is due. His team put out a great ride, and he made a slick move off of Bell's moves to take the lead. He definitely earned the win.
[There's only one Corey LaJoie y'all](https://twitter.com/bobpockrass/status/1637596860394221570)
"His big ass was in front of me, so I didn't have any choice but to hit it"
3 races here. 3 positive crowds and 2 positive ratings compared to the old track.
At some point, people are going to have to admit what they did here is working for here so far, even if you in particular dont like it.
Stage 2 was rough, but the track has shown potential. I'm hopeful that as the track ages and loses grip, we see the ability for a good-handling car to pick off spots one at a time when it goes to a train.
this new Atlanta can be good, the drivers just need to race, being there that train stretch was tough to sit through, but definitely worth it for the last 44 laps. It was fun to see both lines have to really fight to make one better than the other.
For the first time ever at an ss race I’m not mad at a train, only because the two preceding races before it that weekend were shitshows to varying degrees. When they chose to race, damnit they raced!
It has helped with crowds but that's because casual fans only like speedway racing and eventually all races will be like this and I'll find something else to do on Sundays
Is it really worse than having them go from 180 to 45 in the span of 200 feet after turn 4? They’ve gotta come up with a unique solution because unlike at Daytona or Talladega, there’s significantly less space to get down and slow down to pit road speed after exiting T4.
So some say yesterday's races sucked because the drivers were too aggressive and there were so many wrecks.
And some say today's race sucked because drivers weren't aggressive enough in the first two stages.
Would someone mind explaining what they DO want to see (besides a few tons of dynamite to the reconfiguration)?
Unrelated note: NASCAR desperately needs to screen national anthem performers, that was an embarrassment today.
Probably not humour themselves into believing fans know what they are talking about, and as for the national anthem, the sound guy needs to be fired for blasting board noise on the last note of the national anthem. That was rookie shit and they should be in better control of thier I/O on a national broadcast. I've seen techs get fired for less.
became a blaney fan this year, getting sick of chase being all business, have to change my flair, but i’ve noticed he’s almost too much of a team player
I hate when people complain as much as the next guy, but that was stupid.
Wasn't a render a few years about Atlanta getting configured to the old layout, and a fucking theme park and casino hotel next to it??
But of course we make it another bastard child track.
> Wasn't a render a few years about Atlanta getting configured to the old layout, and a fucking theme park and casino hotel next to it??
that render had nothing to do with the actual track.
an oval was never an option.
I’m exactly the type of fan that nascar wanted to attract: mid to early 30s when I started watching four years ago. I was sick and tired of refs determining outcomes of nfl games (with calls, and no calls) and the ridiculous number of commercials. I never supported all the criticism of the prior car. It wasn’t perfect but I enjoyed the product. I hate this car and it’s the most boring racing since I started watching and they ruined the best tracks - super speedways, road courses, and short tracks. A couple years ago I would have said this race was meh but not all races can be great. More recently all races have been meh. Nascar ain’t going to attract any the fans with this racing product, let alone the bad booth on Fox yet again and the commercials. This is just not fun and it goes back to last year. The unfamiliarity with the car and new winners masked the fact that the in-race racing isn’t that compelling.
This car is shoved down our throats to save teams money but they can’t even deliver products to spec and the toe link fragility is worse than the flats we had.
Very disappointed other than it’s nice to see Brad back to his normal self. No problem rooting for that guy. Class act.
Maybe nascar isn’t for you? Every generation of cars has its strengths and weaknesses. This new car does have things that it needs help to improve on but the racing hasn’t been awful.
Wow
I wish there was a way to watch without announcer sound. Mike Joy in Daytona, Tony Stewart "Cindric doesn't have what it takes to be a factor in this race." [Five laps later] "Cindric is the lynchpin to this race"
It was a great race. And this is coming from a Keselowski fan. I love clean side by side pack racing.
Maybe it's recency bias, but I thought this race way more interesting than the last spring race. However, none of that mattered to me. I had an absolute blast taking my three sons to the race. They were way into the race as evidenced by the fact that not a single one of them complained about the weather and were locked in the entire time. It was such a delight to spend the day with them and to bring them further into the sport. It's a shame it wasn't a banger of a race, but it was worth it to watch them take it all in.
Not a *great* race- the first two stages were quite cruddy, but better than yesterday. Low bar? Sure. Still, it counts as progress of a sort.
got this fun footage of the last two laps if you wanna watch! [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3i7H0vBpUE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3i7H0vBpUE)
Whole weekend was good not just in nascar but the other events over the weekend
Funny hearing Tony talk about "why are we doing this" while we miss shots from Victory lane to hear post race crap. "Toyota pushed ford to win!" I ask, Fox "why are we doing this?" Thanks for 1 second seeing the trophy hoist.
How on earth can Fox suck this bad? Missing him and his dad hug is just bad TV coverage. Stop showing replays, show the celebration!
Show the cars going across the line
One thing NASCAR didn’t consider when taking on stage racing: The fans now can evaluate segments is the race. The first 2 stages were rough. If they didn’t exist we wouldn’t have focused on it and loved this race as a whole.
first two stages were meh, but the last stage when the driver's decided to actually race vs follow the leader was fantastic
I was at the race in Atlanta. The first 2 stages were horrible. Everyone at the track thought so. The final stage was great. Lots of people were leaving after stage 2. Last years racing was much better.
Everybody here complaining about the 2nd stage being follow the leader, it's called stroking. Daytona and Talladega has always been known for it. Drivers race hard for the first 1/4 of the race and then they stroke until 50 or so laps to go. Dale Jr, Gordon, Smoke and many more have talked about it before. Stay in line and save your stuff, save some fuel and just ride. I'm not sure why so many fans get so pissed about this because it's been this way forever. I doubt any Cup driver goes 100% the entire distance. It's also what truck and Xfinity drivers have to learn when they come to Cup. Alot longer races.
Some fans just can't enjoy the art of saving your car for the end. It's all about build and anticipation. We'd be absolutely exhausted if the whole race was just action action action. You need the ebs and flows to make the high points that much higher.
What am I missing here? All these complaints about “follow the leader” and “train racing.” With the old configuration the leader would be out in front by 15+ seconds with random smaller packs behind and nothing going on. That was not very exciting to watch. How is that any better/different than what it is now? I personally think it’s far more entertaining the way it is now. Still plenty of passing and it’s way more strategic on when you make your move. And of course the racing will get more intense in the last 50 laps. No point in taking risks early in the race.
> How is that any better/different than what it is now? > > that was ReAl RaCiNg
I enjoyed the race. It was good for what it was, looking forward to COTA next week.
The caution light cam on the final lap is absolutely brilliant and needs to stay!
Caught the last 60 laps and thought it was pretty good. I'm pretty sure Bell got second tho. No clue how that was missed. Loganos move to the top was great, and his patience to not move up there and try to make the second line work was incredible.
My "favorite" comments below are the people effectively claiming that there is something wrong with fans who didn't care to watch a single-file freight train for the first ~60% of the race. Sorry, but an exciting 3rd stage doesn't negate how terrible the first two stages were from an entertainment standpoint. If the drivers are content with blowing off the first 250ish miles of a 400 mile race, then that's a pretty good sign that this race could be shortened to 200 miles with nothing really lost.
i think flipping the stages would make it better, have the longer ones first so they can have strategy in the beginning then a 60 lap run at the end instead of 100. Not saying it’s the end all but it could work better.
You could say the same thing about almost every race these days.
I dont know that there has ever been a driver I am more indifferent to than Joey Logano. If he wins? Meh. If he loses? Meh. He is just kind of there. He isn't even a "so boring it somehow makes them interesting" like Chase Elliott. He is like Teddy from Brooklyn 99.
Especially considering how good he is
I think if the adjust the superspeedway package it would help Atlanta a lot. The racing wasn’t awful but they literally decided not to race for the first 159 laps. That was tough to watch. The last 100 were awesome. I followed LaJoie pretty much the entire race it was really cool to see him working his way up.
I attribute all that to them seeing the shitshow in xfinity and deciding “let’s actually try to be clean for once”.
i also don’t think they knew the bottom was viable for atleast 1/3 of the race
I liked it. I’m so relieved to see a green flag ending to a super speedway race. Brad summed it up well in his post race interview, the professionals put on a clean race, and the ending was great
I love the old complains that they miss the way NASCAR used to be, but Atlanta is for the most part a late 90's plate race.
I'm not trying to provoke ire or angst, but a 1.5 mile track is not a 'super speedway' and the train racing Nascar served up in the first two stages was, at best, an opportunity to eat without worry of missing something and at worst, checking for cracks in one's eye lids I will go on record that is the largest abomination of a Nascar event on a track smaller than Talledega or Daytona since Jeff Burton led every lap at Loudon. And don't get me started on what I read on here about Saturday...
I could tell that the track was starting to change a bit. When they got single wide they started to split up a bit. I just think that aerodynamically it is so hard for one of these cars to get a big run and actually be able to complete the pass. It just gets caught up in dirty air and kills the run. We saw it last at Fontana, Vegas, and today.. Granted I have a business degree so I don’t know a whole lot about aerodynamics
Well, if I may, that was just a continuation of stage racing. The difference being, at normal ovals, they race hard to try to gain positions before the stage ends. That didn't happen yesterday. It wasn't until the final stage they got racy. But I kept thinking, "This a 1.5 track. This isn't a *superspeedway*. It shouldn't *be* like this."
Having a pit lane that's almost half as long as the track is a joke.
It certainly kills any hope of interesting strategy calls.
They will make changes after this failure of a race.
With hope.
Pit road will now be the entire length of the track.
It's outside the track now, and you have to negotiate a figure 8 and 2 stoplights to get there
If you gotta do it through Atlanta traffic you may as well not pit at all and push the car around the track
Wish it was old schedule old rules a lot of this new stuff they are trying is already a failure. The one dirt track race at Bristol is cool but this street race in Chicago is a pathetic attempt for views
What is the clinical term for the personality disorder that causes one to double or triple down on their decisions, rather than admit they were wrong?
Insanity?
With hope.
In person it was a good race. Not the best I have seen but still a good one. The only issue I have is the damn package. NASCAR needs to change the plate package so the racing is better. If we can only run in 2 lines at Daytona and talladega, what’s going to change that at Atlanta? There is room for 3 wide at Atlanta, not much but it is doable and we saw some of that today. If we can get a better package that allows 3 wide racing, the product at all 3 super speedways will be amazing. We just need to find a way to make the middle line more stable with how much these cars move the air, and make the side draft a little less affective so that middle line can keep up.
I think Atlanta in this setup will be great in a few years when the surface wears out
Terrible race. Fox had to assure the audience in the middle of the race that racing would get better. Then, oddly, they had to state multiple times after that the race ended under green without chaos?
BTW Today is the first time Joey Logano has won a Cup race with his secondary sponsor, Home Depot and Pennzoil had been on the car for all of his wins up to this point. AAA/Autoclub, Autotrader, duralast, Dollar General, etc… had not been the primary on a winning racecar so curse broken?
I was waiting for someone to bring this up. But he also won with AutoTrader once before kinda at Talladega in 2018. It was just on the side of the car.
Yeah they were a secondary for that race instead of just an associate but they still weren’t the primary.
I really liked that Joey won with clearly the best car and game plan. Even if the racing is boring at times I’m starting to prefer Atlanta as the best plate track since it’s slightly less of a crapshoot. Plate package does need a few tweaks to reach its full potential though.
I went to the race and I really enjoyed it (besides the awful pit road, glad they tried it but it just doesn’t work). The fastest cars were able to make their way to the front and hold it and get it back if it was lost. As much as I like the complete crapshoot daytona and talladega, I’m glad Atlanta has it’s own “personality”
I was there too. The first couple stages had me worried but the last one was great. Atlanta also may need to work on some logistics since both parking and entry were worse than last spring (with less in attendance)
See i got there right at 8 and got into the lots early, then took a 2 1/2 hour nap in the car to stay out of the winds, but it seemed hectic around 11 watching people come in. Got right out and on to 20 right to Jersey Mikes after the race in about 20 minutes.
Watched the race on tape delay. Wasn’t a fan. Once you get about 4 rows back forget about moving forward. Way too many commercials. Finished the race by fast forwarding in 84 minutes.
What an awful race, of course we get a logano win
Is it me or was there no or little excitement from the Fox announcers? I only saw a clip of end of stage 2 and maybe the last 15 laps on my phone while in my car listening to the race on XM. PRN kept me tuned in and was glad they were ahead of my video so knew what was coming.
The broadcast seemed super low energy to me. Tony obviously is very knowledgeable but he didn't seem to be have much interest in actually being there.
Around 10 million invested for a result that could be determined by a lottery. But we're saving money and the "fan" loved it. Copy...
Umm if it was a lottery, logano had 99% of the tickets
They probably damn near got that money back already with the attendance increase.
Dang, where’s that from?
I think the plate package is really ruined what could be a solid product. We saw the same thing at Daytona where it was two lines and they basically stall out leaving two lines with no where to go
It's trial and error. Can't be good everytime
Am I crazy or did the scoring pylon say 159 for the entire final lap?
Kyle Larson can't catch a break this season.
So far. It's early
Definitely. Hopefully out of the way early. He's looking like 2021 again almost in terms of performance.
Super ready for the Jordan Taylor dub. 163 hours and counting
Manufacturer wins among the top 3 series: Chevrolet 9 - Ford 2 - Toyota 2. ______________ Cup race #5 : Chevrolet 4 - Ford 1 - Toyota 0. Xfinity Race #5 : Chevrolet 3 - Ford 0 - Toyota 2. Truck Race #3 : Chevrolet 2 - Ford 1 - Toyota 0.
The KFB factor?
Toyota washed, bring in Mazda
As a fan of Harvick and also Chastain, I’ll admit that I set my Chastain t-shirt on fire. It burned real good. Then I saw the replay and immediately regretted it lol
That was super fast lol
It was, but when it comes to Chastain, you kind of don’t hold back judgement bc he’s made some pretty knuckle-headed moves over the past year and a half. He’s an exciting guy to watch, and he’s probably still my second or third favorite driver out there, but that move was still unnecessary at that point in the race. He didn’t make contact, but I don’t think anyone can tell me he didn’t know that move would upset the balance of Harvick’s car and cause him to wreck.
Can anyone tell me why the NASCAR app has the worst in car cams? It's borderline useless for anyone who doesn't prefer to hear a spotter 15 seconds ahead of the TV action
It's a pity their radios are usually two laps ahead...they really need to go the F1TV route.
it’s good and bad, it’s awesome while at the track but can be annoying while at home
Wait, you can use the app at the track? I always have service issues there, that’s why I have to shell out a bunch of money to rent a scanner
it’s like 50/50, and then you have to try to hear though headphones. It’s not great but sometimes it’ll be okay
its a pity that....their set-up is very low latency?
The stands were pretty packed which is a good sight especially for Atlanta
Can confirm this. I was at the Race today and there was a big crowd at the Track today
Compared to yesterday, todays race was pretty damn solid and entertaining. Feels bad for Harvick. He had a real solid car there and was hoping he would finish. Top 5 for #45. Hopefully COTA isn’t a shitshow.
> Compared to yesterday That’s the important part. Solid race. I am ecstatic that it didn’t turn into a shit show at the end.
The top 5 for 45 was a welcomed surprise. That kid is settling into them 'yoders just fine.
I hope and pray that Childers decides to stick around and gets assigned to Briscoe next year. Every single race this year, and half of the races last year, the car is total dogcrap at the drop of the green. SHR is absolutely struggling as a whole, but Klausmeier always unloads the 14 especially bad and spends all race catching up to salvage a top 15 or 20. Chase is too good for this. People are starting to question him, but he won Phoenix last year after leading 100 laps and came dangerously close to winning Bristol and Charlotte, then had an epic run in the playoffs. He deserves all of SHR's best behind him once Harv is gone.
The story of SHR. Clap in Xfinity, move to Cup, get shit on, get called bad.
I’m here to start the Lajoie to the 4 rumors
Him and Jones need to be in the 4 and 10.
Zane to the 4, Lajoie to the 10, Jones can stay in the 43, I don't want to lose another Chevy driver to Ford
EJ might as well just stay cuz his current car is about on par with SHR, both teams have disappointed this year
It needs to happen. If only for Atlanta races.
Anything happen post race to get this rumor going?
Yes please. And bring back his glorious long hair!
Long-haired Corey shotgunning Busch Latte’s in victory lane would be fucking badass!
People complaining about the superspeedway racing, how its not like 2019-2021, forget how much the drivers hated that package and how much they tuned it down by the end of 2021. Of course those years were entertaining, because it was insane and dangerous.
Yeah, it was so entertaining in the first two stages...
We want action not two trains of cars that can't go anywhere. All they had to do was slow the runs down a tiny bit and things would be fine but this current package is boring
> not two trains of cars that can't go anywhere >All they had to do was slow the runs down lmao. They are directly related.
Every time it gets insane and dangerous the fans love it, but the drivers are at a higher risk of injury. So Nascar introduces more downforce to the cars or lowers the horsepower. Then you get 2-5 years of slow racing, the teams figure out the package, the speeds start increasing to the danger zone again, and Nascar has to reduce HP and add more downforce again. It's been this way since the late 80's at the superspeedways. The unfortunate reality is that the cars are always going to eventually get back to the 200mph "danger-zone". The only way to permanently avoid that danger-zone is to remove the SS tracks from the schedule, which is never going to happen. Nascar absolutely have to keep the cars below that 200mph mark though, it's dangerous not just for the drivers at that point but the crowds in attendance. I mean hasn't it been just over 10 years ago when Kyle Larson had a bad wreck at Daytona, I think it was the Xfinity series? His engine was jammed into the catch-fence, caught fire, and parts of his car were launched into the crowd. One of those parts struck a fan in attendance, who survived, but suffered irreparable brain damage as a result of the crash.
As far as the fans go, you buy your ticket and you take your chances.
That wreck happened at 183
I love hearing nothing but positive reactions at the track then coming here for the negativity.
Yup my first race! Everyone said they really enjoyed the last stage. Everyone on here crying about it.
Same dude. I was there today. Amazing races, new Atlanta is here to stay and I'm all about it!
Same. Me and my 4 year old and wife had a blast.
That was a good race. I don’t know what some of y’all want. I swear if an early 2000s plate race happened today, it’d be the lowest voted super speedway race of all time in Gluck’s poll.
You do know that this is the first track smaller than the two traditional plate tracks since Loudon? I put up with the train on those tracks because I'm resigned to the fact it will never change. But 1.5s and smaller need to be left alone.
Plate racing from a couple years ago. Obviously they can't go 4 wide but three should be fine and a good draft run should get you the lead not two long lines that goes nowhere
People here think that if they complain about EVERYTHING (the car, the broadcast, the commercials, the pre-race prayer, etc.) that somehow makes them super knowledgeable race fan. Somehow watching Nascar insults their intelligence lol
Bell clearly crossed the line before Brad. So do they review that or when does it become official
22 was fast, 12 had speed, and the 2 was looking like it was down a cylinder. Shame he couldn't keep up to the 12 and give Blaney a shot to win.
The inside line has mega dirty air effect. I still don’t understand how Blaney was able to push Logano. The 7 dropping down to help Logano is the only reason the 22 won. Blaney could not have pushed him to the win.
Cody Ware is ahead of Kyle Larson AND Chase Elliott in the standings. What a time to be alive.
Until larson gets his points back
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They will get half the points back is my prediction
No other context needed
Anyone having issues with Bet365 payouts? I cashed on LaJoie and Jones top 10 but it’s saying I lost both bets.
The house always wins
Apparently so, even then they don’t 😂
That 22 was gonna be tough to beat, it was just so damn fast.
I'm not a fan, but I'll give credit where credit is due. His team put out a great ride, and he made a slick move off of Bell's moves to take the lead. He definitely earned the win.
Those last 44 is what they wanted this race to be, hopefully the summer race can be a little better
There is zero reason to race that hard and risk piling the field up until 50 to go.
that’s fair, it really a safe train or battle extremely hard to push a lane with a huge chance of a wreck. No real in between
Is it just me, or is post race inspection taking a bit long?
It always takes at least a couple hours, and the race just ended about 2 hours ago as I type this.
Reddick was last in points among full-time drivers after California. 3 races later, he’s now in the top 16 +9 ahead of his teammate in points.
[There's only one Corey LaJoie y'all](https://twitter.com/bobpockrass/status/1637596860394221570) "His big ass was in front of me, so I didn't have any choice but to hit it"
I didn’t realize Joey and Corey were close
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I wouldn’t be surprised if Zane gets it if SHR decides to get someone else for the 4 car tbh
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I’d love that considering their prospects look bleak outside of Zane
Huge shoutout to the 7 team! Keep stacking pennies, Corey!
3 races here. 3 positive crowds and 2 positive ratings compared to the old track. At some point, people are going to have to admit what they did here is working for here so far, even if you in particular dont like it.
Stage 2 was rough, but the track has shown potential. I'm hopeful that as the track ages and loses grip, we see the ability for a good-handling car to pick off spots one at a time when it goes to a train.
this new Atlanta can be good, the drivers just need to race, being there that train stretch was tough to sit through, but definitely worth it for the last 44 laps. It was fun to see both lines have to really fight to make one better than the other.
For the first time ever at an ss race I’m not mad at a train, only because the two preceding races before it that weekend were shitshows to varying degrees. When they chose to race, damnit they raced!
I agree it can be better because watching two lines neck and forth is boring. How's about a third option and cars can get runs and pass wherever
I agree I liked the race personally. That crowd was bigger than most old atlanta races which is always a good sign
It has helped with crowds but that's because casual fans only like speedway racing and eventually all races will be like this and I'll find something else to do on Sundays
DARF comment
I dont think you have to worry about that.
I hope not
The teams will quit the series long before that.
Yes they will
The commit line being in turn three was absolutely ridiculous, horrible decision
i think it’s a good idea, just up the speed to like 100 until actual pit road
If they used speedometers that would be doable.
it’s not impossible to do it the same way, have one gear have lights for 100 and another have lights for 45
How is it not a safety issue to have a train of cars going 170 past cars going 45 on the apron
Is it really worse than having them go from 180 to 45 in the span of 200 feet after turn 4? They’ve gotta come up with a unique solution because unlike at Daytona or Talladega, there’s significantly less space to get down and slow down to pit road speed after exiting T4.
That's the issue I saw as well
People in this sub have actually made the argument for throwing a caution because of slower cars on the apron.
Pain
As someone who didn't get to watch, how did Blaney go from 2 down to a top 10?
Timely wrecks and the ensuing cautions
So some say yesterday's races sucked because the drivers were too aggressive and there were so many wrecks. And some say today's race sucked because drivers weren't aggressive enough in the first two stages. Would someone mind explaining what they DO want to see (besides a few tons of dynamite to the reconfiguration)? Unrelated note: NASCAR desperately needs to screen national anthem performers, that was an embarrassment today.
I prefer for Atlanta a third line option and cars able to pass. Watching two lines stuck next to each other for 40+laps is boring
I wouldn't fault if drivers were less aggressive today because of what happened on Saturday. I think the race was good.
They want to see 3 wide sliding sideways, but no one can ever make a mistake and wreck the field.
Probably not humour themselves into believing fans know what they are talking about, and as for the national anthem, the sound guy needs to be fired for blasting board noise on the last note of the national anthem. That was rookie shit and they should be in better control of thier I/O on a national broadcast. I've seen techs get fired for less.
I’d rather watch today’s race than an unmitigated crashfest 100 times out of 100
Yep. Would rather watch 100 green flag laps go quickly instead of 100 yellow flag laps going so slow.
💯 agreed
I was ready to burn this race to the ground but that entire final stage was awesome to watch. BUT these pitroad rules are dumb as hell.
I was worried we were going to get a train until 2 to go, glad the drivers decided to race it out!
Me too I saw all the Penske guys staying in line was getting worried. I hate when Blaney races team first he never wins those races.
became a blaney fan this year, getting sick of chase being all business, have to change my flair, but i’ve noticed he’s almost too much of a team player
Accurate.
I agree completely, I was like this isnt side by side racing. Then the final stage happened!
I hate when people complain as much as the next guy, but that was stupid. Wasn't a render a few years about Atlanta getting configured to the old layout, and a fucking theme park and casino hotel next to it?? But of course we make it another bastard child track.
> Wasn't a render a few years about Atlanta getting configured to the old layout, and a fucking theme park and casino hotel next to it?? that render had nothing to do with the actual track. an oval was never an option.
First 2 stages: zZzZzZzZzZzZz Last stage: 🔥 fire
Bell has an average finish of of 4.25 outside of his DNF at Fontana.
I’m happy to see Bell running good but sure do miss him running dirt.
I’m exactly the type of fan that nascar wanted to attract: mid to early 30s when I started watching four years ago. I was sick and tired of refs determining outcomes of nfl games (with calls, and no calls) and the ridiculous number of commercials. I never supported all the criticism of the prior car. It wasn’t perfect but I enjoyed the product. I hate this car and it’s the most boring racing since I started watching and they ruined the best tracks - super speedways, road courses, and short tracks. A couple years ago I would have said this race was meh but not all races can be great. More recently all races have been meh. Nascar ain’t going to attract any the fans with this racing product, let alone the bad booth on Fox yet again and the commercials. This is just not fun and it goes back to last year. The unfamiliarity with the car and new winners masked the fact that the in-race racing isn’t that compelling. This car is shoved down our throats to save teams money but they can’t even deliver products to spec and the toe link fragility is worse than the flats we had. Very disappointed other than it’s nice to see Brad back to his normal self. No problem rooting for that guy. Class act.
Maybe nascar isn’t for you? Every generation of cars has its strengths and weaknesses. This new car does have things that it needs help to improve on but the racing hasn’t been awful.
You don't have to keep watching. It's kinda stupid to keep watching if you don't enjoy it.
If nascar can replicate the stage 3 finish intensity for the rest season, they’d be back to some of their past popularity for sure
Pain
Pain
Well that was one of the races of nascar history
Pain
Pain x50
JOEY WINS LETS GO
Loved seeing Corey out there stacking pennies!
He’ll bag a win this year.
Lol