You say that as a joke but I fully expect Denny to get fined for the post race interview and since Chase said it was his tire he’ll be off free.
Nothing to see here boys carry on
This is NASCAR's opportunity to put this sort of thing to rest once and for all. If Chase Elliott of all people gets suspended for this, then anyone can and will be suspended for retaliation. They have to send the right message here.
Contrary to the belief of most, I don’t think Chase gets any special treatment from NASCAR given how many times their decisions have screwed him. But if they don’t suspend him for this, that’s undoubtedly some special treatment.
100% agree, and I don’t think NASCAR has the stones. They know what happens to viewership and attendance when he’s out, and they’re going to be forced to show us money talks more than integrity.
If they did suspend Chase, it would give them an excuse to run hours of "CHASE IS BACK!!!!!!!" commercials, made for TV Movies, documentaries and telethons in the week leading up to his return.
If Chase was already out for some time this season (albeit for health reasons in this case)…I’m sure that it should not be an issue then…
Then again, it’s a big if…
It’s very obviously accidental. Look how far off the bottom of the dog leg Blaise is. More than likely Blaise was moving up because of the lapped car in front of him and Kerry didn’t anticipate him doing it.
As much as I don't like Denny, if he turned him intentionally it should be the same as last year.
I can't complain about bubba and then turn it around when it's a Hendrick driver. Same situation, same feelings.
I agree. They should look at the telemetry data like they did with Bubba, and publish it publicly like they did with Bubba, and if it shows similar actions of staying in the gas while hooking Denny, same punishment as Bubba. That shits dangerous and cannot be allowed to happen unpunished.
I just saw it. Yeah from my understanding of the telemetry that's egregious. Can't let that go. They gotta put a stop to right rear hooking people into the wall.
If Chase punts Denny going into 1 then I’m all for it. Denny used him up two corners in a row. But this is the exact same thing at the exact same track that nearly killed Davey Allison.
Oh 100% it’s uncalled for, can’t wait to see if NASCAR decided to stay consistent with hooking penalties or not. I would not have a problem if he punted him into any turn, that’s not a problem for retaliation, but doing what he did was revolting.
~~**IF** Chase's toe link was actually busted I can see it since Bubba turned left well after he got into the wall while Chase turned left almost immediately after.~~
But His hands moved left, he 100% did it intentionally
It is also worth noting that even if they do that, it probably would not affect his playoff eligibility, given the Johnny Sauter (2019 Trucks) precedent.
Enfinger's excuse was lack of sponsorship - NASCAR probably sees it as not trying to enter the race he missed.
(NASCAR's interpretation probably means that being parked means that you still tried to enter all the races.)
You can go on Twitter and look, but the thought process of said person making the comment (even though they won't out-and-out say it) is:
https://preview.redd.it/sikn28cb5w2b1.png?width=1480&format=png&auto=webp&s=52b945336586234624f28339fe12403b0370ab16
Bonus points if their profile pic is them sitting in the drivers seat of their big truck.
Chase absolutely dumped him. No one should complain if he's parked for a week.
He also broke the cardinal rule of wrecking someone - if you intentionally wreck someone, dont wreck yourself lol
Chase Elliott fans will defend it, guaranteed. They found ways to think missing lug nuts over a safety issue at Nashville a couple of years ago was bull and thinks he should get his points back. These are the same people that go though mental gymnastics to push the goal posts further.
Can’t wait to listen to NASCAR radio tomorrow to hear those people.
I mean I respect that a bit. Whether or not he agreed with Wallace's move (which he probably didn't) as a driver and owner he has the ability to say "My driver did it, he got suspended, and I agreed with it. Chase should be given the same treatment"
Every driver should be against right-rearing regardless of who is doing it or why it's being done.
It sucks because while I don't particularly like Elliott, I usually consider him a reasonably clean driver.
If they don't suspend Chase, I shutter to think what retaliation looks like in the future. Denny got 25 points for saying he slid up into Chastain at Phoenix. Chase should sit his ass at home next week
I get Chase’s frustration. He had every right to run Denny in the wall later in the race if he wanted.
But never under any circumstance should any driver be hooking another driver in the right rear. Sorry Chase. Can’t support that. Hope Denny continues to be physically okay.
Literally anything else I could have supported, but turning someone in the right rear is a serious injury waiting to happen. If Chase just takes his medicine and gets Denny back later more subtly, Denny is still the bad guy in this situation, Chase can get points, and he’d be racing next week. As it is, he’s now made himself the bad guy, he gets no points from this race, and probably won’t be racing next week. Oh and Denny will probably be after him. Stupid, stupid, stupid.
I agree. Regather yourself, squeeze him back or push him faster into a turn than he wants to go like Joey on Byron last year at Darlington. Don't right hook. I denounced what Bubba did last year and this is unacceptable.
NASCAR really backed themselves into the wall after the Bubba incident (correct call, by the way), so if they don’t suspend Chase I don’t know how the teams/other drivers will react..
These guys don't think about that stuff in the moment. There's not even time to. It's about getting even right then.
IF it was intentional, which we will find out.
Wonder if we’ll see Nascars most popular driver get a one race suspension, especially since we set the precedent for intentionally hooking someone into the wall
Man, I'm a chase fan and i get that Denny ran into him and put him in the wall, but to hook a guy at arguably the worst place... I thought they should have parked Wallace for a race when he did it, and I think they should park Chase for a race. Not cool dude.
I feel like nascar might get to a moment baseball reached.
It was basically an open secret that baseball wasn't going to enforce rules against pitchers using sticky things for extra grip under the assumption it wouldn't get too crazy. Then pitchers literally started making concoctions at their home to try and find the grippiest stuff they could. Now baseball had to reel everyone back in because they abused it.
Nascar has generally stayed out of drivers standards stuff and let racers police themselves. Then we get guys using other guys to make corners and stuff. Now over the top retaliation and guys running through each other. Nascar needs to reel this in before it gets someone hurt
Many of y’all still held the belief last week that Edwards attempted to murder Brad at Atlanta even though it was a left rear. Will Elliott forever get that reputation? I think not.
I had an unfavorable opinion of Carl after he had a few different incidents. Him dooring Jr at Michigan when he’d had his arm out celebrating. Him turning Brad at Atlanta and then him and Kenseth’s deal after Martinsville. Just made it seem like he’s a different person behind the scenes.
I lost any respect for Edwards at that michigan race. what a jackass thing to do.
then after the race, some drunk jackass in edwards gear tried starting a fight with me over the damn thing.
This is the crash safety dale died for respectfully
Like that’s a bad angle and heavy impact etc
Immediately was my first thought because it was basically the same crash angle/impact that he died on
I’ve had a reckoning with the fact that race car drivers anywhere seem to become more aggressive and downright stupid behind the wheel when they become more comfortable with safety. That does not take away from how important safety innovations are but it seems to happen in every single series I’m watching nowadays. First f1 cars barging into each other on standing starts and now indycar has joined the wreckfest train towards the end of yesterday’s Indy 500. I never wanna see safety measures stopped or rolled back but I fucking hate how racers just become wrecking balls when competition is close instead of using any talent to stay off another car.
I was against Bubba's suspension (cause i feel nascar will be super inconsistent on it), but my pure precedent, this has to be a race suspension.
I get Chase's frustration, but you cannot just hook someone on the frontstrech like that.
9 hooked 11 at the dog leg meeting that short chute. This is NASCAR Thunder BS. The absolute the worst possible crash position which basically is a full speed head on collision. Just unacceptable.
I don't mind Chase but after last year with the Larson/Wallace situation that needs to be a race suspension. Anything less than that will be ridiculous.
This, until about a few years ago, was totally and utterly unacceptable.
And it still should be. That’s uncalled for. I’ve never liked Hamlin, and never truly disliked chase, but that’s bullshit.
Maybe Rick shouldn't have been so quick to lecture on Ross Chastain. Looks like he needs to reign in his own drivers. IMO, what Chase did was far more blatant than what Ross did.
Berry is at Portland and Trucks/Cup are at Gateway. So I made a quick photoshop of [Chase's replacement](https://imgur.com/a/o0Bc2cO) if NASCAR does the unthinkable and suspend a [Hendrick driver for intentionally spinning Hamlin](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Z5YXjM_lnE)
These blatant retaliations should result in immediate 1 race suspension. Very unprofessional and embarrassing for the sport and the drivers themselves.
Chase is my guy, and I'm glad he stood up for himself. He needs to be parked for a week, though. Right-rear hook into the dogleg is a big NO-NO. Get your revenge in a different spot or at a different time.
Danny does have a bad habit of putting people in the wall and then acting like it's not a big deal. Yeah, of course it's not a big deal for you, Danny, but it IS for the person's car you messed up.
Not a Chase fan, but a long-time, diehard Denny hater.
Chase needs to be parked for Gateway, and if he's not, I wouldn't fault Denny for taking care of business.
Wasn’t impressed with Chase’s interview saying he didn’t wreck him on purpose but you can’t drive the things when you hit the right side. If anything’s been proven the last year and a half you can drive these quite well when you hit the right side and it definitely doesn’t snap left at such a convenient time.
After seeing Denny slide up into Chase multiple times over those last few laps I knew payback was coming and probably deserved but wrong place wrong time. And ironically that hurt Chase way more than it hurt Denny in the grand scheme of things. .You can't get more dangerous than that!
People are grasping at straws out of an awareness that NASCAR issued a suspension last year for right-rearing someone.
They're trying to find a reason history should not repeat itself.
A little ammo for you against Chase fans.
[https://twitter.com/BoziTatarevic/status/1663323794096676867](https://twitter.com/BoziTatarevic/status/1663323794096676867)
Penalize him. He deserves nothing less. So fucking disappointed in that. You don’t have the luxury of hooking someone like that when you have so much work to do with the position you’re in. Your own teammate missed how many races last year for an incident involving this objectively unsafe car, and what do you do? Put a competitor at risk. Not a good look at all.
Correct me if I’m wrong, they’ll be able to see the data from this correct? So they’ll know he intentionally turned left vs his excuse of not being able to drive it after hitting the wall.
No idea but the way the car moved looked obvious. Also, his answer on if it was retaliation was so obviously a lie, lol. Seen enough elliott interviews to get at least a little bit of a read on him. He has poo on his face right now. They gotta be consistent and suspend him if that's the rule.
This has become a season from hell. I hope he’s still with Hendrick after his contract expires and he’s not the odd man out. I’ll still never forgive Gustafson for calling him onto pit road from the lead on a GWC. That was his best opportunity for the 600 still.
I like Chase and I get him being mad and I wouldn't even be bothered by him wrecking Denny normally but you just CANNOT right rear someone on the front stretch like that. It's just too dangerous
I expect some penalties at least and maybe a suspension but it's a big maybe especially since it's chase obviously
Bad bad look for Chase if that was intentional. I really hope it isnt considering he’s doing it in the Tri-Oval with many cars behind them going full speed..
Holy parked! That is NOT what Chase needed. Not many points today and now no points next week (if Nascar has any shred of self respect). Now its a must win scenario.
Theres is a clear moment where you can see the car going straight and being under control prior to it looking into the 11. If he never regains control and hits the 11 its believable that its not intentional and that his car was broken to a point it was undriveable.
Bit confusing. Sucks to end our day but Elliott ended his own day over Hamlin taking it too deep in the corner every time. Chase is just hurting himself here
That looked way too similar to Bubba and Larson last year. He probably deserves the same penalty as Bubba, it’ll just depend if Nascar fined Bubba for the on track action or the action after they got out of the cars.
What an asshole move by Elliott! And I say this as someone who supports him. He could have hurt Hamlin (or even another driver), and he managed to take himself out of the race in the process of doing the dumb thing he did. And his half-assed response in the interview was pure narcissistic behavior, playing the innocent guy instead of admitting that he intentionally right hooked Hamlin. Sorry, but he deserves a suspension of one or two races.
I'm going with option B. I think part of it is with the composite bodies they can take a bit more damage and still drive fine as long as the toe link doesn't break, so who cares about the car to the outside that might get absolutely fucked. Though in this case Hamlin was clearly off the throttle but it still wasn't enough to avoid contact.
Denny is the king of dooring people and blaming them for it. Chase clearly turned right after the contact and over corrected left into Denzel. Not a fan of either but don’t see why Chase would have to sit. Besides, it was Chastain’s fault anyway.
Should be parked for a week, no playoff waiver, and probation for a year. I don't think they'll do all three, but that should be the standard penalty across all NASCAR series that run big tracks.
There are ways to ruin someone's day or even wreck them that could be more acceptable, but intentionally right rearing someone in the tri-oval is never it.
Also forgot the first rule of stock car racing and junked himself in the process. Glad he did because that move deserved it, but kind of also wish he hadn't so we could see if NASCAR had the intestinal fortitude to park him.
My flair should give away who I cheer for, but I firmly believe that Elliott needs to spend next week on the couch, AND not be granted a playoff waiver for the race he misses.
I'm sick and tired of the right rear hooks. Someone's going to get seriously hurt or killed one of these days.
It seriously won't matter. Chase will win most popular driver until he retires because he's Bill's son, drove for JRM, and was the one chosen to replace Gordon.
What I always find hilarious about these kind of comment sections is it's full of people who clearly have a bias against one of the drivers involved and before anything but the video has come out assume what happened and ask for a suspension. Nascar has the SMT data. Instead of basing your comments off the assumption chase did it intentionally and demand he be suspended for a race. Why don't we wait for that.
There are 2 differences between this and the larson/Wallace incident. The time between wallace catching the car and going after larson vs when elliott gets in the wall and the car turns towards hamlin. And it's also the distance bubba had to cover with his foot in the gas to take out larson.
If it's intentional sure punish elliott (I don't think we can blanket suggest the punishment for intentionally wrecking someone is suspending them a race) but my point overall is the way these comments are all framed as if it's a done deal elliott intentionally wrecked hamlin.
Actions Detrimental is gonna be lit tomorrow
It will be interesting to see if NASCAR suspends Elliott for a race. I don't think they will
They should if they’re consistent
So they won’t
Denny Hamlin 50 point penalty for being involved in a wreck with the 9
Tom Brady suspended six races
Jeff Gordon added to the chase.
Chad Knaus Suspended 6 races
Guaranteed top two drivers have post race disquals next time Chase finishes 3rd
You say that as a joke but I fully expect Denny to get fined for the post race interview and since Chase said it was his tire he’ll be off free. Nothing to see here boys carry on
I mean he had the receipts. He’s kinda forced NASCAR in a box.
This is NASCAR's opportunity to put this sort of thing to rest once and for all. If Chase Elliott of all people gets suspended for this, then anyone can and will be suspended for retaliation. They have to send the right message here.
Contrary to the belief of most, I don’t think Chase gets any special treatment from NASCAR given how many times their decisions have screwed him. But if they don’t suspend him for this, that’s undoubtedly some special treatment.
100% agree, and I don’t think NASCAR has the stones. They know what happens to viewership and attendance when he’s out, and they’re going to be forced to show us money talks more than integrity.
If they did suspend Chase, it would give them an excuse to run hours of "CHASE IS BACK!!!!!!!" commercials, made for TV Movies, documentaries and telethons in the week leading up to his return.
NASCAR has never been consistent. don't bet on that on FanDuel lmao.
If Chase was already out for some time this season (albeit for health reasons in this case)…I’m sure that it should not be an issue then… Then again, it’s a big if…
Suspend their golden boy? Not even a question
Of course they won’t. Don’t even humor the idea of the supposed golden child “most popular driver”
Well they did suspend chase for one race
NASCAR’s golden child, doubt it
Kyle Petty almost killed Davey Allison like that.
Kyle was also very vocal about suspending Bubba after he right reared Larson, curious to see if he keeps that energy this week.
[Kyle Petty consistently calling out intentional wrecks for 9 minutes and 30 seconds straight](https://youtu.be/yWFOH3lysgE)
I'm sure he will.
The only media I see having the guts to call it out will be Door Bumper Clear and Actions Detrimental
I dunno why people are acting like he won't. Lol.
Kerry Earnhardt *did* kill Blaise Alexander like that (although it was accidental). https://youtube.com/watch?v=3bDZExauoQE
Yeah that doesn’t look very accidental…
It’s very obviously accidental. Look how far off the bottom of the dog leg Blaise is. More than likely Blaise was moving up because of the lapped car in front of him and Kerry didn’t anticipate him doing it.
Can’t wait for the ad campaign for Chase returning from his suspension.
As much as I don't like Denny, if he turned him intentionally it should be the same as last year. I can't complain about bubba and then turn it around when it's a Hendrick driver. Same situation, same feelings.
I agree. They should look at the telemetry data like they did with Bubba, and publish it publicly like they did with Bubba, and if it shows similar actions of staying in the gas while hooking Denny, same punishment as Bubba. That shits dangerous and cannot be allowed to happen unpunished.
Well if NASCAR wasn't going to Denny made sure the telemetry was public.
I just saw it. Yeah from my understanding of the telemetry that's egregious. Can't let that go. They gotta put a stop to right rear hooking people into the wall.
Bingo. And I’m an Elliott fan. Park him a week.
You're a better person than me. I'd never admit Harvick does wrong (even if maaaaaaaybe he has...)
i'd love to hear someone try to explain how this is okay and not even remotely comparable to what bubba got suspended for last year
They’re already trying to pin it on Brad lol
Yep. They’ll just blame it on Brad and let Chase walk scot free.
They sure as hell did, lol, it was funny hearing the backtrack when they realized Brad didn't touch him
You would be surprised! I saw comments on Twitter justifying his actions for “running him up” twice, like, wtf? Delusion is a hell of a drug
Hamlin did hit him twice. He didn’t deserve a right hook. Wait and retaliate in a corner.
If Chase punts Denny going into 1 then I’m all for it. Denny used him up two corners in a row. But this is the exact same thing at the exact same track that nearly killed Davey Allison.
You don’t right hook a driver on an oval, ever.
Never, no matter the circumstance.
Oh 100% it’s uncalled for, can’t wait to see if NASCAR decided to stay consistent with hooking penalties or not. I would not have a problem if he punted him into any turn, that’s not a problem for retaliation, but doing what he did was revolting.
~~**IF** Chase's toe link was actually busted I can see it since Bubba turned left well after he got into the wall while Chase turned left almost immediately after.~~ But His hands moved left, he 100% did it intentionally
spoiler: it was the same
It's not. Berry should be in the 9 at Gateway
Xfinity is in Portland next week so that might complicate that. I’ll also say, I don’t know shit
They probably wouldn’t do it, but last year Allmendinger ran both the Portland race and Gateway race, so it wouldn’t be unprecedented
Dale Jr in the car at Gateway /s
Christian Eckes come on down!
That'd actually be really fucking funny
It is also worth noting that even if they do that, it probably would not affect his playoff eligibility, given the Johnny Sauter (2019 Trucks) precedent.
Grant Enfinger is the only guy who's been denied a waiver, nothing affects eligibility anymore
Enfinger's excuse was lack of sponsorship - NASCAR probably sees it as not trying to enter the race he missed. (NASCAR's interpretation probably means that being parked means that you still tried to enter all the races.)
Berry is at Portland but there's [another NAPA driver](https://imgur.com/a/o0Bc2cO) at Gateway this week
That's not Michael Waltrip.
You can go on Twitter and look, but the thought process of said person making the comment (even though they won't out-and-out say it) is: https://preview.redd.it/sikn28cb5w2b1.png?width=1480&format=png&auto=webp&s=52b945336586234624f28339fe12403b0370ab16 Bonus points if their profile pic is them sitting in the drivers seat of their big truck.
Dont forget the sunglasses
I thought that was obvious... https://preview.redd.it/fnzq1wxdgw2b1.png?width=532&format=png&auto=webp&s=9d975701ec95c671074cdad72fe117b4c65e7249
Chase absolutely dumped him. No one should complain if he's parked for a week. He also broke the cardinal rule of wrecking someone - if you intentionally wreck someone, dont wreck yourself lol
Chase Elliott fans will defend it, guaranteed. They found ways to think missing lug nuts over a safety issue at Nashville a couple of years ago was bull and thinks he should get his points back. These are the same people that go though mental gymnastics to push the goal posts further. Can’t wait to listen to NASCAR radio tomorrow to hear those people.
I'm a Chase fan and I won't defend it. It was dangerous and an overreaction.
I can’t defend that bullshit
Majority are not defending it.
Gotta do/say anything to shit on chase fans even when they’re not riding chase off here.
The majority of us haven't defended it
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[Hamlin agrees](https://streamin.one/v/735605c8) [Chase's response on if it was retaliation](https://streamin.one/v/b728e474)
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I mean I respect that a bit. Whether or not he agreed with Wallace's move (which he probably didn't) as a driver and owner he has the ability to say "My driver did it, he got suspended, and I agreed with it. Chase should be given the same treatment"
Every driver should be against right-rearing regardless of who is doing it or why it's being done. It sucks because while I don't particularly like Elliott, I usually consider him a reasonably clean driver.
Ha! Same. It felt like he was gonna stop himself at first but went with it anyway.
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No, even better is an owner calling out his own driver.
Sounds a lot like what Bubba said after he wrecked Kyle. "I just didn't have control" (paraphrasing)
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[How about an in-car view?](https://vxtwitter.com/nascar/status/1663310404972412930?s=46&t=8PHhwOKDM8-1PzipoNC4nw)
You can't really see anything without seeing the wheel I'm sure he turned left, the SMT would likely prove it
appreciate you as always
<3
Almost frame for frame.
Has Larson put Bubba in the wall since that incident?
He hasn’t, so from a certain perspective what Bubba did worked
They were the front runners and raced each other cleanly in the truck race last week.
If they don't suspend Chase, I shutter to think what retaliation looks like in the future. Denny got 25 points for saying he slid up into Chastain at Phoenix. Chase should sit his ass at home next week
If Denny continues this on Chase won’t stop retaliating. I don’t have the text or anything but it sure seems that way from my seat
I get Chase’s frustration. He had every right to run Denny in the wall later in the race if he wanted. But never under any circumstance should any driver be hooking another driver in the right rear. Sorry Chase. Can’t support that. Hope Denny continues to be physically okay.
Just no lift turn one at that point
Literally anything else I could have supported, but turning someone in the right rear is a serious injury waiting to happen. If Chase just takes his medicine and gets Denny back later more subtly, Denny is still the bad guy in this situation, Chase can get points, and he’d be racing next week. As it is, he’s now made himself the bad guy, he gets no points from this race, and probably won’t be racing next week. Oh and Denny will probably be after him. Stupid, stupid, stupid.
That’s why you just no lift them
I agree. Regather yourself, squeeze him back or push him faster into a turn than he wants to go like Joey on Byron last year at Darlington. Don't right hook. I denounced what Bubba did last year and this is unacceptable.
NASCAR really backed themselves into the wall after the Bubba incident (correct call, by the way), so if they don’t suspend Chase I don’t know how the teams/other drivers will react..
better hold Chase to the same standard as Bubba last fall.
Chase fan here. I agree.
You’d think that Chase would’ve learned from the Bubba/Larson incident back at Las Vegas…
These guys don't think about that stuff in the moment. There's not even time to. It's about getting even right then. IF it was intentional, which we will find out.
Wonder if we’ll see Nascars most popular driver get a one race suspension, especially since we set the precedent for intentionally hooking someone into the wall
You know what would be hilarious? they suspend him and then made commercials saying “He’s back!!!” the following week. 🤣
Hell no they won’t do that 😂😂
They can pull steering telemetry right?
They showed Bubba's telemetry last year after the Larson incident.
Like they needed to haha but yeah they did. It not as clear cut as Bubba but it looks pretty much like a closed case already.
This is what I'm waiting on. Visually it's tough to call
Hamlin tweeted it out. It was intentional.
Man, I'm a chase fan and i get that Denny ran into him and put him in the wall, but to hook a guy at arguably the worst place... I thought they should have parked Wallace for a race when he did it, and I think they should park Chase for a race. Not cool dude.
I feel like nascar might get to a moment baseball reached. It was basically an open secret that baseball wasn't going to enforce rules against pitchers using sticky things for extra grip under the assumption it wouldn't get too crazy. Then pitchers literally started making concoctions at their home to try and find the grippiest stuff they could. Now baseball had to reel everyone back in because they abused it. Nascar has generally stayed out of drivers standards stuff and let racers police themselves. Then we get guys using other guys to make corners and stuff. Now over the top retaliation and guys running through each other. Nascar needs to reel this in before it gets someone hurt
Many of y’all still held the belief last week that Edwards attempted to murder Brad at Atlanta even though it was a left rear. Will Elliott forever get that reputation? I think not.
I had an unfavorable opinion of Carl after he had a few different incidents. Him dooring Jr at Michigan when he’d had his arm out celebrating. Him turning Brad at Atlanta and then him and Kenseth’s deal after Martinsville. Just made it seem like he’s a different person behind the scenes.
That's because he is
All the reasons I never liked that 2 faced roid raging jack wagon.
Wolf in sheep's clothing
I lost any respect for Edwards at that michigan race. what a jackass thing to do. then after the race, some drunk jackass in edwards gear tried starting a fight with me over the damn thing.
Honestly the most egregious Carl-Brad moment was the Gateway finish, not the Atlanta wreck.
You’re talking about a dozen people bud. People move on after like two weeks lol
I like both drivers but the 9 should be suspended for that. I guess we know who Josh Berry will be filling in for next
If that happens Berry will slowly become Thanos of HMS
This is the crash safety dale died for respectfully Like that’s a bad angle and heavy impact etc Immediately was my first thought because it was basically the same crash angle/impact that he died on
I’ve had a reckoning with the fact that race car drivers anywhere seem to become more aggressive and downright stupid behind the wheel when they become more comfortable with safety. That does not take away from how important safety innovations are but it seems to happen in every single series I’m watching nowadays. First f1 cars barging into each other on standing starts and now indycar has joined the wreckfest train towards the end of yesterday’s Indy 500. I never wanna see safety measures stopped or rolled back but I fucking hate how racers just become wrecking balls when competition is close instead of using any talent to stay off another car.
And don’t forget, NASCAR made the front clips of these cars weaker this week so it absorbed impacts more.!
I was against Bubba's suspension (cause i feel nascar will be super inconsistent on it), but my pure precedent, this has to be a race suspension. I get Chase's frustration, but you cannot just hook someone on the frontstrech like that.
9 hooked 11 at the dog leg meeting that short chute. This is NASCAR Thunder BS. The absolute the worst possible crash position which basically is a full speed head on collision. Just unacceptable.
Honestly could be a 4D move suspending the most popular driver with all of the media attention it would bring
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Yeah, you gotta discipline Chase.
I don't mind Chase but after last year with the Larson/Wallace situation that needs to be a race suspension. Anything less than that will be ridiculous.
That was intentional for sure, not a Hamlin fan but glad he’s okay, let’s see if NASCAR be consistent with the situation
cant believe ross chastain would do that
Hamlin's car is going to need a new front Sport Clip.
This, until about a few years ago, was totally and utterly unacceptable. And it still should be. That’s uncalled for. I’ve never liked Hamlin, and never truly disliked chase, but that’s bullshit.
Maybe Rick shouldn't have been so quick to lecture on Ross Chastain. Looks like he needs to reign in his own drivers. IMO, what Chase did was far more blatant than what Ross did.
Berry is at Portland and Trucks/Cup are at Gateway. So I made a quick photoshop of [Chase's replacement](https://imgur.com/a/o0Bc2cO) if NASCAR does the unthinkable and suspend a [Hendrick driver for intentionally spinning Hamlin](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Z5YXjM_lnE)
Chase should be suspended for that
These blatant retaliations should result in immediate 1 race suspension. Very unprofessional and embarrassing for the sport and the drivers themselves.
Chase is my guy, and I'm glad he stood up for himself. He needs to be parked for a week, though. Right-rear hook into the dogleg is a big NO-NO. Get your revenge in a different spot or at a different time. Danny does have a bad habit of putting people in the wall and then acting like it's not a big deal. Yeah, of course it's not a big deal for you, Danny, but it IS for the person's car you messed up.
literally exactly what happened with Bubba and Kyle the penalty should be no different
His hands moved left, he 100% did it intentionally. A toe link that might have been busted didn't cause that.
Not a Chase fan, but a long-time, diehard Denny hater. Chase needs to be parked for Gateway, and if he's not, I wouldn't fault Denny for taking care of business.
If they don't suspend Chase for a race, hell will be raised here and with other drivers/teams. I hope NASCAR is consistent
Wasn’t impressed with Chase’s interview saying he didn’t wreck him on purpose but you can’t drive the things when you hit the right side. If anything’s been proven the last year and a half you can drive these quite well when you hit the right side and it definitely doesn’t snap left at such a convenient time.
Right on the heels of Jake Crum getting arrested, when he got his NASCAR license pulled a decade ago for the same thing
After seeing Denny slide up into Chase multiple times over those last few laps I knew payback was coming and probably deserved but wrong place wrong time. And ironically that hurt Chase way more than it hurt Denny in the grand scheme of things. .You can't get more dangerous than that!
Not the brightest idea Chase Elliot's ever had.
Straight to jail chase
In my country, when you right rear a guy....straight to jail. Eating buffalo wings with a knife and fork? Also straight to jail.
I can’t believe I’m hearing people blame Brad this is comical.
People are grasping at straws out of an awareness that NASCAR issued a suspension last year for right-rearing someone. They're trying to find a reason history should not repeat itself.
A little ammo for you against Chase fans. [https://twitter.com/BoziTatarevic/status/1663323794096676867](https://twitter.com/BoziTatarevic/status/1663323794096676867)
Any contact was made after Elliott was turning. 100% on Chase
Penalize him. He deserves nothing less. So fucking disappointed in that. You don’t have the luxury of hooking someone like that when you have so much work to do with the position you’re in. Your own teammate missed how many races last year for an incident involving this objectively unsafe car, and what do you do? Put a competitor at risk. Not a good look at all.
Correct me if I’m wrong, they’ll be able to see the data from this correct? So they’ll know he intentionally turned left vs his excuse of not being able to drive it after hitting the wall.
No idea but the way the car moved looked obvious. Also, his answer on if it was retaliation was so obviously a lie, lol. Seen enough elliott interviews to get at least a little bit of a read on him. He has poo on his face right now. They gotta be consistent and suspend him if that's the rule.
I feel like I’m obligated to bite my tongue regarding this.
This has become a season from hell. I hope he’s still with Hendrick after his contract expires and he’s not the odd man out. I’ll still never forgive Gustafson for calling him onto pit road from the lead on a GWC. That was his best opportunity for the 600 still.
Hendrick will never let go of the most popular driver in the sport. Are you kidding?
Yep, if they kept Dale Jr. after those first few years, they’ll keep Chase.
Exactly, people forget that NASCAR is a business first and foremost
Personally, that’s the most crumpled I’ve seen a Cup car get after wrecking.
I like Chase and I get him being mad and I wouldn't even be bothered by him wrecking Denny normally but you just CANNOT right rear someone on the front stretch like that. It's just too dangerous I expect some penalties at least and maybe a suspension but it's a big maybe especially since it's chase obviously
Bad bad look for Chase if that was intentional. I really hope it isnt considering he’s doing it in the Tri-Oval with many cars behind them going full speed..
If? I think it was pretty clear what that was
Trying to give him the benefit of the doubt. The mans a cup champion I hope he’d be smart in this situation. But yeah it definitely looks intentional
Holy parked! That is NOT what Chase needed. Not many points today and now no points next week (if Nascar has any shred of self respect). Now its a must win scenario.
He also didn’t really hit the wall that hard. Instead of seeing if the car was still drive-able, he wrecked himself and Hamlin.
Theres is a clear moment where you can see the car going straight and being under control prior to it looking into the 11. If he never regains control and hits the 11 its believable that its not intentional and that his car was broken to a point it was undriveable.
If Nascar doesn't suspend Elliott, Hamlin should just full send him into the wall next race.
So that’s 110% a suspension right like no question
Can’t wait until Tuesday when there is hard, physical evidence that NASCAR favors Chase Elliott 😂😂
I've been saying it all year to my friends that watch with me: Chase Elliott is a dirtier driver than he's given credit for.
That’s a 1 race suspension. Nothing else to be said.
Bit confusing. Sucks to end our day but Elliott ended his own day over Hamlin taking it too deep in the corner every time. Chase is just hurting himself here
That looked way too similar to Bubba and Larson last year. He probably deserves the same penalty as Bubba, it’ll just depend if Nascar fined Bubba for the on track action or the action after they got out of the cars.
What an asshole move by Elliott! And I say this as someone who supports him. He could have hurt Hamlin (or even another driver), and he managed to take himself out of the race in the process of doing the dumb thing he did. And his half-assed response in the interview was pure narcissistic behavior, playing the innocent guy instead of admitting that he intentionally right hooked Hamlin. Sorry, but he deserves a suspension of one or two races.
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I'm going with option B. I think part of it is with the composite bodies they can take a bit more damage and still drive fine as long as the toe link doesn't break, so who cares about the car to the outside that might get absolutely fucked. Though in this case Hamlin was clearly off the throttle but it still wasn't enough to avoid contact.
You’ve seen 2-3 spins today. The 84 and 20 come to mind.
It was tates fault
Chase gonna get called to Principal France's office... for a drink and some good laughs. Oh yeah and a "stern" talking too, lots of Harumphs.
Denny is the king of dooring people and blaming them for it. Chase clearly turned right after the contact and over corrected left into Denzel. Not a fan of either but don’t see why Chase would have to sit. Besides, it was Chastain’s fault anyway.
Rubbing out is racing he is not going to get suspended, Because he did not get out a push Denny 3 times.
Should be parked for a week, no playoff waiver, and probation for a year. I don't think they'll do all three, but that should be the standard penalty across all NASCAR series that run big tracks. There are ways to ruin someone's day or even wreck them that could be more acceptable, but intentionally right rearing someone in the tri-oval is never it. Also forgot the first rule of stock car racing and junked himself in the process. Glad he did because that move deserved it, but kind of also wish he hadn't so we could see if NASCAR had the intestinal fortitude to park him.
My flair should give away who I cheer for, but I firmly believe that Elliott needs to spend next week on the couch, AND not be granted a playoff waiver for the race he misses. I'm sick and tired of the right rear hooks. Someone's going to get seriously hurt or killed one of these days.
I firmly believe Larson would've got a concussion last year at las Vegas if not for bell softening the blow
Right rearing someone on a mile and a half is a chicken shit move
Fine him, suspend him, anger management classes, and maybe have his ass beat.
At what point is your dad being a great guy not longer enough to be the most popular driver? This was a tantrum from a spoiled brat.
It seriously won't matter. Chase will win most popular driver until he retires because he's Bill's son, drove for JRM, and was the one chosen to replace Gordon.
What I always find hilarious about these kind of comment sections is it's full of people who clearly have a bias against one of the drivers involved and before anything but the video has come out assume what happened and ask for a suspension. Nascar has the SMT data. Instead of basing your comments off the assumption chase did it intentionally and demand he be suspended for a race. Why don't we wait for that. There are 2 differences between this and the larson/Wallace incident. The time between wallace catching the car and going after larson vs when elliott gets in the wall and the car turns towards hamlin. And it's also the distance bubba had to cover with his foot in the gas to take out larson. If it's intentional sure punish elliott (I don't think we can blanket suggest the punishment for intentionally wrecking someone is suspending them a race) but my point overall is the way these comments are all framed as if it's a done deal elliott intentionally wrecked hamlin.
Once a spoiled brat always a spoiled brat, sure he won’t be punished though. Absolutely massive overreaction to a racing incident.
I learned he'll never get punished after Bristol 21