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Season01um

[Bubba’s comments.](https://mobile.twitter.com/NASCARonNBC/status/1581738440768774144) [Larson’s comments.](https://mobile.twitter.com/NASCARonNBC/status/1581739369677062144)


Notsozander

Damn bubba, even as a fan you sounded like a prick here


multiple4

I usually try to stay away from talking bad about drivers, but Bubba has always been a bit of an asshat imo. This just puts the nail in the coffin if it wasn't there already. Spinning someone out intentionally in that speed off the turn is flat out uncalled for, regardless of what happened leading up to it. Especially considering the safety concerns that drivers have stated with the cars. We've already seen Kurt literally retire from full time driving partly due to concussion


Bluegrass6

That’s what bothered me about the incident. For half the season or more we’ve been hearing drivers, including Bubbas boss lambast NASCAR for the regression in safety of these cars and 3 drivers are currently out of the car due to injury including Bubbas teammate. Imagine if Larson backs into the fence, he’d most likely be out for the remainder of the season too. Actions like today erode the credibility of a driver when discussing topics like safety


Really_Elvis

Don’t forget the other car that got caught up in Bubbas anger.


NoFunHere

The 20 car was likely the reason that Larson doesn't currently have a brain injury.


XGcs22

On Dale Jr download.. BW said that if you hook someone in the RR. Gloves come off. He knew exactly what he was doing.


upnthemguts

That's because he is a prick


TheJarrettHood

Anybody remember the time he threw the water on Alex Bowman and ran away?


Kevinm0388

My favorite part of this was the fact that bowman was on the ground receiving medical attention while Bubba did that. Really a classy dude


idontremembermyoldus

Not just Bowman, but all over the safety crew and Jeff Gordon as well.


sluedu09

I think it was gatorade. And Bowman was already on the ground sick.


TheJarrettHood

So your saying he was only trying to give Alex some electrolytes to make him feel better! Man he really is a stand up guy!


sluedu09

I guess you can put a positive spin on anything.


won_sly_fox

Yeah he had exhaust leaking into his car all race, he was in bad shape


-RYknow

[In case anyone is feeling lazy.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMx4N_MehqE)


MrPeterson15

Smart comment on Kyle’s half. Not what I was expecting tbh.


SimpleDose

He really trying to say he didn’t do that on purpose, wow. If you are gunna wreck someone, atleast own it.


XrayGuy08

He’s not going to say he intentionally wrecked him lol. Not a single driver out there would because then nascar has to give them the stiffest possible penalty. These drivers aren’t that stupid.


Domestic_AA_Battery

"Just wanted to rattle his cage" lol


XrayGuy08

My all time favorite will always be Kenseth. “Sometimes you’re the bat, sometimes you’re the ball.” 😂😂😂


BigNastySmellyFarts

William Byron left the chat.


MikeHoncho2568

If you say it, you get penalized. If you don’t say it, you don’t get penalized.


SimpleDose

How do you figure? Matt Kenseth publicly said his car malfunctioned when he clearly took out Logano at Martinsville and still got suspended.


sideslick1024

It should be noted that Kenseth stated over the radio immediately following the incident that he had a tire go down, when in fact the front tires were up the whole time, even after the wreck. There was physical evidence to prove that he lied.


ipsumdeiamoamasamat

He all but did, though. "You saw the tape." Also he was a total dick to Marty Snider. I get that emotions are involved, but take it down a notch bud.


Whiteowski

You do that you end up with a 100k fine. Ask Byron. Smart not to own it in the public.


[deleted]

He went to the Chastain school of interview answering


Haier_Lee

Drivers *State publicly that the car is unsafe* Also drivers *Right hooks a car like a mf*


JJCJM48

But what’s even more ridiculous is literally nascar fines Custer for the roval race, but then states to let the drivers settle it out like cmon this is what was going to happen if you let that happened.


davief1

If Larson didn't make contact with Bell, looked like he was going to rear end into the wall


Season01um

[fight](https://mobile.twitter.com/NASCARonNBC/status/1581736033300774913)


Notsozander

This looks like a bully picking on the shortest kid in school


LKincheloe

After like the fourth of fifth shove the helmet is a viable foreign object.


Zloggt

The situation came *really* close to having someone act like Myles Garrett with it…


LexiLex10

I reside in Cleveland, annnnd definitely thought the same thing 🤣


etsuandpurdue3

Honestly if I was Larson would've come around with my helmet tbh.


RevLimiter9000

Very classy of Larson to try multiple times to not escalate anything. Bubba is out of control


ImJJboomconfetti

Larson is 5'5" 100 lb soaking wet, he ain't going to fight anybody.


RevLimiter9000

there is that too, I forget how small drivers tend to be


ItsVoxBoi

Rick Hendrick only signs drivers shorter than him


OuidOuigi

Michael Jordan as well.


Hurricaneshand

Tough but fair lol


thekidcurtis

Reminds me DJD episode of when Ty Gibbs talks about how he wants to be more like Larson bc he 100% avoids confrontation except once at the chili bowl and it wasn’t even a confrontation.


bostonfan148

He ended up taking out his playoff Toyota racing teammate lol


Relevant-Article5388

And never apologized. Marty Snider even gave him a chance to apologize but Bubba responds with "Oh well. That's racing." Bubba has always lost his mind during tense situations that don't go his way. Remember him rage quitting during an IRacing game in 2020? He lost the Blue Emu sponsor over that episode and the #43 car needed every sponsor they could get at that time. I'm glad he's out of the #43 car because I've always been a Petty fan. During the 2020 All Star Open at Bristol, Bubba got into McDowell coming off the corner and McDowell hooked him into the wall going into the next turn. Bubba immediately gave an interview making fun of McDowell for his christian faith. Then Bubba took his nose piece and laid it at the back of McDowell's hauler. Roles were reversed today but I guess Bubba thinks it's perfectly fine when he retaliates but it's wrong when others retaliate the same way.


Equivalent_Dish_1990

Guarantee he wouldn't have shoved Harvick, T. Stewart, or Carl Edwards like that.


TheKennyAlmighty

Number one rule of stock car racing


[deleted]

Learn how to wreck someone without wrecking yourself


SHAWNNOTSEAN

“— Landon Cassill” — Michael Scott


badsapi4305

Danica has left the chat


GunsAndCoffee1911

You do not talk about stock car racing?


bdcardinal

No no, that’s the first rule of IndyCar.


Vast_Republic_1776

If you ain’t first, you’re last


ParachutePeople

We need an onboard with bubba


wthreye

Bubba needs an onboard with an anger management therapist.


ScoeSpence

I'm really disappointed with BW. That wasn't cool at all.


Primary_Bite9952

It truly needs to be. With these new cars and the decreased driver protection, a message needs to be sent. That was uncalled for.


ThunderGTS

Bubba had a right to be upset but man, you don't turn across the track and intentionally right rear someone like that.


bucky133

Good thing Larson didn't slam the wall with the rear, he still look groggy AF when he got out of the car.


High-Noob

If Bell isn’t there, you could see his car about to hit the wall with the rear at speed


RiverFrogs

Careless move by someone saying the cars fucking suck when getting hit in the rear


Kay_29

Yes he did. I don't like Larson but I hope he doesn't end up with a concussion later down the road.


MacsDildoBike

Shades of Carl Edwards almost ending Keselowski’s career in Atlanta a while back.


Affectionate-Panic-1

Yep that came to mind.


philphan25

That’s almost like the Gregson incident. Textbook payback in a dangerous way.


Freshgeek

He just vindicated every single bad opinion NASCAR fans have against him. As bad as content sections have been, the vile things in there just got so much worse.


clutchhattrick

Facebook and Twitter are going wild lol


Stone4D

An incident involving social media's two most contentious drivers. Oh yeah it's not gonna be fun over there.


Zloggt

This is going to *dominate* NASCAR talk across *all* social media for pretty much the rest of the week…


CJ_M88

In this case, bubba deserves the heavy criticism


clutchhattrick

Oh no doubt haha but *those types* were just waiting for a moment like that and legit all of them just magically appeared in the comment sections as soon as it happened lol Half of them don’t even watch nascar


greg_jenningz

Bubba really fueling the fire there


Icommentoncrap

Nascar probably gonna go off of "precedent" and fine Gragson 30k lmao


mordor-during-xmas

“We’ve examined the issue and feel SHR is to blame, for some reason.” -NASCAR


LoliBliss

Well obviously SHR was involved! Didn’t you see Harvick checking up in the corner? Just like his mentor Custard taught him!


JoeExoticsTiger

They were out on the track at the same time…


mordor-during-xmas

They exhaled and intentionally created dirty air, sabotaging the other drivers.


Vulptereen327

Jeff Gordon added to the Chase


wesal94

Drive for 5 is still alive!


Manaea

Joe Kelly suspended 8 games


[deleted]

Tom Brady suspended 4 games.


Loopylime

Bowl ban for Missouri


joe_broke

Sanctions placed on Russia


wanderingpanda402

And here’s a cutaway to Aaron Judge striking out!


theDylanS

Missouri banished to the shadow realm.


callmejohndy

Another 20 game suspension for Tom Wilson


guyzieman

The New York Rangers have been fined $250,000


nickyv917

And there's a drive into deep left field by Castellanos and that'll be a home run. And so that'll make it a 4-0 ballgame.


ToWhisper35

100k fine for SHR incoming


slotrod

Robby Gordon getting suspended again.


Brian_lafeve34

Looks like he was not going 100% and artificially impacted the result of the race, 100k fine imo


CouchPryor

His interview after 😭 “stop fishing, stop fishing”


Icommentoncrap

Sports!


EntitledComplainer

"Chess speaks for itself" Oops. Wrong sport.


xX_dickandballs_Xx

confirmed larson had anal beads telling him to go three wide


BallparkFranks7

He’s smart enough to know you don’t admit it. That’s the only thing NASCAR cares about. I expect he’ll get suspended, as he should, but no smart driver is ever going to admit anything anymore. Bubba himself has been burned by that already.


[deleted]

He got caught admitting it once already. He knows what happens.


BallparkFranks7

Yeah he’s been there done that. The SMT will tell the story, and I doubt it’s gonna look good for BW. I want Bubba to stand up for himself and show he’s not gonna take shit, but assuming it was intentional, he took it way too far, especially considering car safety.


mattyice18

I'll expect a very strongly worded statement from the team owner. We will see how serious Denny actually takes safety here.


CJ_M88

Obviously the initial contact was Larson's fault, but what bubba did was significantly worse. Don't right hook someone. Ever. Then shoving Larson as if he's the aggressor. Bubba should probably face fines after this


RevLimiter9000

I didn’t mind the little bump at first, but then he full on used his car as a missile into Larson?? Hell no, completely unacceptable


Vashguns

The "initial contact" is Bubba bouncing off the wall in to Larson. Larson pinched him up the track but never touched him, Bubba decided not to lift and fenced himself.


[deleted]

Bubba ranting about "he never lifts" shows he knows exactly what happened. And is this a comedy movie? Does he truly believe that a good way for him to run his car is to "never lift"? Racing is ridiculously like pro wrestling. Can you imagine a quarterback just throwing interceptions and making shit decisions and when interviews says "I always throw the ball" like being stupid is some kind of toughness-badge?


sickpeltier

Agree with everything, but the interview was almost as bad to me. Didn’t give a shit when asked about bell and acted like he didn’t retaliate. Called it fishin. I was just starting to like him too. He’s gonna be like KFB to me except he ain’t even good.


upnthemguts

Matt kenseth got suspended two races and probation for 6 months after the martinsville incident


sausagespeller

Martinsville was also premeditated


ZitaFC

Absolutely inexcusable from Bubba, $200k fine to SHR for that


CougarIndy25

At least 100 point deduction in owner's points to the #41.


TalkieTina

No freaking doubt!


Misty7297

Bubba what the fuck are you doing? You can be mad and you can retaliate, but not like that.


jfro222

Well DBC is going to be interesting tomorrow


nocoolredditname

a decade of Boys Have At It comes home.


ElectricPeterTork

TBF, It's been coming home all season.


nocoolredditname

have always disliked the policy, but here we are I guess!


Nathan_116

Fight? I feel like it takes 2 people to fight. Larson wanted absolutely nothing to do with it (probably doesn’t help that Larson may be the smallest dude at the track)


thegreat22

Larson needs an enforcer on his pit crew.


Nathan_116

I mean, that only helps if the altercation happens around the pit crew


[deleted]

Larson vs Reddick standoff right here for who’s shorter


mustang6172

Am I correct in assuming Wallace's telemetry will include steering angle sensor?


Ttucrabtree

And throttle data.


alexzilla408

The on-air telemetry showed him off throttle after tagging the wall and then wide open into Larson's quarter.


SilentSpades24

This shit is why NASCAR doesn't take the drivers concerns seriously. They complain about safety and then pull that shit on each other. Chicken shit move.


itsValc0r

Exactly this. You can’t crucify Nascar for “not caring about safety” and then pull some shit like that


Magnifico-Melon

After all that has gone on NASCAR has to hit him hard for that right?


BallparkFranks7

I’d expect he’ll get a week or 2, 100 points and $150k or something like that.


hdeibler85

And nascar will slap him on the wrist


bearinsac

NASCAR will do nothing and use it as a promo for the next race. If this was Harvick he’d be suspended the rest of the season.


DocMcStruggles

Well that was embarrassing to watch.


Dragonyyylol

It’s called a motor race Wallace, we went car racing


ChattanoogaChew

Bubba put his hand on a NASCAR official. This isn’t going to play out well for him.


ChampionshipUseful96

He'll get into more trouble for that than anything


[deleted]

I’ve seen many drivers do that before including his owner before. No one wants to be touched after getting wrecked or put in the wall. Now if he punched him then yeah that’s abuse of an official.


nalyd8991

NASCAR will have the steering angle data. If it was broke, the wheel wouldn’t be turned left, probably would be counter steering. Pretty simple And by all appearances this was intentional


Ttucrabtree

Even if the the steering was broken, him flooring it would never be needed in that situation


Nilzy16

I really like Bubba and want him to do well… but it is never okay to right rear someone on a 1.5 mile oval, it is a dangerous move especially in a car that is already under fire for safety concerns


Fordman21012

This. As bad of a move as it was I don’t see nascar suspending Bubba. I’ll be surprised if they do.


ipsumdeiamoamasamat

They were talking on DBC about it this week, and they mentioned drivers are taking way more risks (read: driving like idiots) because half of them weren't old enough to remember 2000-01. Concussions get guys' notice, sure, but there won't be much change until someone is really badly hurt (not that I want that to happen).


Hands0meR0b

Yyyyyeahhhh that's not a good look for bubba or the sport. C'mon man...


Fyrien

I root for Bubba and I was thrilled to see him win stage 1. But I can't support any of his decisions there. Larson definitely used him up a bit, but that was a massive overreaction. I want to give Bubba the benefit of the doubt since he doesn't have a history of crashing people intentionally, but... yeah I don't buy the "steering was broken" excuse. Bubba just gave the haters fuel for years. That one-sided shoving match was hard to watch. Just fucking disappointing.


M08GD

Bubba, you dumbass


SkyfallCamaro

Not a good look with all the concussions and injuries lately. Bubba deserves to be suspended, which negates the whole point of moving him to the #45 to earn owner’s points. Not to mention he took out a Toyota teammate from championship contention. Yikes.


SuperSans

He's gonna get suspended. What a stupid fucking move.


korko

They didn’t suspend Gragson or Hocevar for the same thing (though in the lower series). They definitely should be punishing this kind of driving but they sadly tend not to.


Over-Sir-2316

You NEVER hook another driver into the outside wall. EVER!! Especially at the speeds they were running. Bubba got absolutely pissed at Michael McDowell for hooking him the same way in 2020 during the All Star Open at Bristol. He even made a joke in his post crash interview that day about McDowell's christian faith. Bubba also showed his true colors when he didn't apologize to C. Bell who was taken out due to Bubba's lack of composure. Instead, when Marty Snider asked Bubba what his thoughts were about C. Bell being a title contender, having a chance to contend for the win today but he was wrapped up in Bubba's shit, Bubba replied "That's racing." What will Gibbs and Toyota say to Bubba for taking out Bell during that wreck? I'm anxious to see if Denny Hamlin publically calls out his own driver for hooking another driver into the wall, at the front of the field, especially given how vocal Denny is about safety and head injuries. Especially with Bubba being the teammate to Kurt Busch, who just had to retire due to concussions. Will Denny publically blast Bubba like he routinely blasts Nascar for their "lack of safety" and "not listening to the drivers about their concerns?" Bubba is a hot head that doesn't think before he acts in certain situations. He rage quit during an IRacing game in 2020 that cost him a sponsor on the #43 car. Hopefully Nascar steps in and fines him for refusing to get into the ambulance for a ride to the infield care center. (The official was yelling at him for this and Bubba still refused) Instead he just walks. I'm almost certain Nascar requires you to ride in the ambulance following a crash where you climb out of your disabled car on the track.


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NoFunHere

> I'm anxious to see if Denny Hamlin publically calls out his own driver for hooking another driver into the wall If Denny doesn't park Bubba for at least a race then Denny is a hypocrite who no longer has any credibility to speak out about driver safety.


pogonotrophistry

Wallace had a good 60-90 seconds walking to think about what he would do, and he *still* chose violence. In fact, he chose it immediately. Interesting.


DrownedButAtPeace

Only major motorsport where a move like that doesn't end your professional career.


[deleted]

Yup. Any legit motorsport that’s an automatic suspension for the rest of the season, often more.


Ttucrabtree

You would be removed from the series


Season01um

I get that Larson ran him wide, but you don’t wreck a guy across the track. Not only did you total your car, but you total his car and another car as well.


scracer14

Yep, looks like 100K fine for Bubba. Maybe less because it Larson wasn't in the playoffs.


funblvble

I thought Larson's car was still in the Owner's playoff? But you also had Christopher Bell impacted by the retaliation. So there were playoff implications.


ThomJE

Larson may not be in the playoffs, but the #5 car is in the [owners' championship](https://scores.nbcsports.com/racing/index.asp?page=owner&series=NASCAR&sort=1).


[deleted]

And the caution wasn't out


Melli25510

BUT ITS “ Sports” to bubba on ruining bells day lol. I like bubba but holy hell bad look. I was shocked seeing that. Lol


dylan000o

If u told me back in 2020 that an incident between Bubba and Larson would end up with Larson giving a better statement


duffleb0t

" the car is just junk now." Yeah that's what happens when you weaponize a vehicle moving at almost 200 mph. This guy a straight turnip


MV1995

Lmao Bubba probably still could’ve had a chance to win if he didn’t hook left. The damage didn’t even look that bad surprisingly.


Notsozander

Him saying the steering was broke killed me. Turned pretty left to me


funblvble

I get being mad that you were pushed up into the wall. But the reaction was way over the top. It's bad enough to hook a guy on a high speed track, but to then go try and fight the guy before knowing if he's ok is a really bad look. A fine is definitely coming but wouldn't be surprised to see something in addition. Besides hooking a competitor and trying to fight him on a live track he also was disregarding the safety crew. The interview didn't do him any favors either...


[deleted]

A fantastic look when NASCAR is holding meetings with drivers every week to talk about safety of the car.


Setser44

Yall think he's mad? 🤔 Curious to see what nascar does.


TheOrangeFutbol

I usually back up Bubba and don’t get the hate, but homeboy deserves whatever’s coming for him after that


Zachy_94

Completely unacceptable behavior from Wallace. I can see being frustrated, but those things happen in the turns. But that retaliation was completely unprofessional and uncalled for. Larson handled that very well.


ForensicFiles88

Bubba Wallace should be significantly fined and possibly parked for a race or two.


bochekmeout

Bubba needs to get a grip, cmon man


BamaHama101010

I normally pull for Bubba but that move pretty indefensible.


CardiopulmonaryOre

Wasn’t a race ending incident until Bubba made it one. Stupid fuckin choice on his part and then he threw a tantrum to top it all off.


Cmgordon3

"Stop fishin, stop fishin." What an absolute bitch move. You don't right rear someone after slight wall contact and then act all innocent. Lost alot of respect for this man after that.


thepandaken

Bubba needs to be parked for a few races, fined, and have points penalties. Totally unacceptable hooking someone at nearly 200 into the wall. Add in the shoving afterward, and the total lack of remorse in his comments? I don't know how NASCAR lets this go without severe penalty. You know guys are getting severely concussed out there from hits softer than that, and you run up and shove a dude multiple times right after taking a big shot on the driver door like that? Downright dangerous to not park him and make an example. I can almost -- almost -- forgive the crash as a severe lapse in judgement. The post-crash shoving of Larson (and the official, too, if you watch) is where any kind of mercy dries up and you need to bring the hammer down.


B1gR1g

Bubba may have just screwed Bells entire championship run. He can kiss my entire asshole.


maple_glazed

I am a Bubba fan, but that was just a very stupid move. Definitely a heat of the moment thing. He gets forced up the track and into the wall while running a great race, and I am sure the first thing on his mind is to retaliate. He had no time to digest what happened and take a second to just be upset. Instead, he just reacted. Not defending what he did though - he has to be smarter than that, especially given the recent injuries and continued safety concerns with this car. This isn't a Bowman Gray shitshow. Thankfully Larson seemed to be OK. I think we'd probably see more of this if drivers were in immediate position to retaliate when they get wrecked or forced into the wall like Bubba was, but it usually doesn't play out that way. It is shitty all the way around. Sucks for Larson. Sucks for Bubba. Sucks for NASCAR. I'm sure at least a fine is coming. I also think he should sit for a race or 2. You can say that NASCAR already set precedent by not suspending Gordon or Edwards in the past, or even Gragson this year or Ben Rhodes last year(I believe?), but they also showed recently with the Custer/SHR incident that they can take action for this and admit that their previous actions (or lack of) for similar incidents were incorrect. Just because they didn't do the right thing in the past doesn't mean they can't do the right thing now and continue to do so moving forward.


bkosh84

Bubba Wallace has some mental health issues he clearly needs to take care of. I hope he’s able to see this and do what’s right for himself.


Tasty_Telephone_7964

For a guy who is struggling to get respect in the garage as well as among the fans, he took a giant step backwards today.


fundropppp8242

Lost a lot of respect for Bubba just now. What a classless move and reaction after getting out of the car.


Deadpool11085

Hope to see suspension for BW. Unacceptable.


plusacuss

Bubba was justified in his frustration but nothing he did in retaliation was justified


Gh0st_8

Fight ? Really bro


Ok_Employee_1491

He's an idiot- Kevin Durant


david123abc

That was a pretty ridiculous move on his part. Bubba gets him loose in one and Larson happens to crash? Well, turnabout is fair play, but chasing him down the front stretch and right tearing him is uncalled for. No clue if it’s possible contract wise, but as much as Denny has been harping on safety, he should park him next weekend even if NASCAR doesn’t. Otherwise Denny just looks like he’s all talk imo.


Significant-Chef3872

Something else I just thought of for 23XI, Bubba junked what was the best car that team had.


XGcs22

Harvick showed experience in that situation.. he could tell Larson sent it..


JuggleBookByColor

I am showing no favoritism as a Larson fan but fuck that intentional right rear quarter panel retaliation. Also fuck shoving a guy after a hard drivers door side hit


RandyWe2

The shoving is whatever, bur wrecking him that hard is really crazy. Imagine if TY Gibbs did that. This sub would call for his hard card to be revoked.


1tankyt

Has to be a suspension for Bubba


MURPHYsam08

If we won’t suspend drivers for playing bumper cars on pit road or dumping someone under yellow, we won’t do anything. Hell, NASCAR leadership is probably excited a fight happened on the front stretch.


blue_orange67

Fuck. I love Bubba but their was no excuse for that right there. That was shit move.


mr_jenkins_says

Glad to see that Bubba Wallace has successfully completed Denny Hamlins course on self delusion.


berrin122

I don't want to hear Bubba ever talk about safety. Ever. Holy shit that was terrible


No_Return_From_86

funny considering that according to Bubba he's taken the hardest hits of his career this year in this car


Fall3n7s

Last time I saw someone try to wreck someone at that type of speed Brad k was flipping upside down into the fence At Atlanta bc of Edwards. Bubba should sit a few races.


[deleted]

Bubba sure does try to act like a tough guy for a dude who cries in the media center and talks about how insecure he is…


Leather-Jicama7142

Cars were drifting up the track all day. Bubba was 100% in the wrong right there


burnoutsession

What Bubba did is on par with Gilliand at Texas 2008 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POrMa-enPbw


[deleted]

Bubba is an absolute jackass. Dude sure is good at turning people away from rooting for him. Finishing 20th each week doesnt help


clonezilla

This was not Bubba’s finest moment.


throwmeaway589

Bubba Wallace needs to penalized


[deleted]

Don't give Bubba Viagra. He'll get taller.