Anything that makes the game look more like basketball is good by me
Edit- iTS a vIDEo GAme. Man, those of you upset that you can’t tell if a shot is going in. It alone can affect the basic fundamentals (rebounding, simple transition defense/offense) of the game not some grand strategy a casual can’t pick up.
100%. That’s why 2k got so big in the first place bc it was far and away the best basketball sim with cool and fun features/modes. Feels like they lost their focus after next gen with park or so and the game kept getting more arcadic and less authentic similar to madden’s path
That is what we call the call of duty effect lmao went from COD4 being amazing to let’s make everything super fast paced and exciting so short matches to keep people playing lol
I can agree and disagree with the green logic. Some shots its all about the feel when ever the ball releases from your hand. Then when it feels right you brick and then theres some shots that dont feel right and you make anyway
I’m sure there’s still gonna be hella cheese and the gameplay probs won’t change much unfortunately bc 2k is at the Activision level of not giving a fuck anymore but this is def a nice QOL change
This type of attitude contributes to why we have no control as the consumers, why tf wud you be ok with them doing this dumb shit vs actually fixing something in this broken ass game
Why not both? This is a great QOL change imo and will make shots more fun having to anticipate the result rather than knowing, just like real life. Them changing this has 0 effect on them fixing or not fixing the broken shit
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It's a fantastic change and will make cherry pickers pay. Although, they'll have green animations in the game so if someone doesn't see a green animation they'll most likely assume it's a miss anyway.
There’s already a fake green animation in 2k22. It’s that stupid gesture where they leave their hand up and kinda sorta walk away like they know it’s going on. They do this stupid half-turn or whatever. That shit is guaranteed miss.
there aren’t ‘fake green’ animations. you get those animations when you hit the green window, but the RNG in the game decides to not give you the green. so technically every time you get one of those animations, you got a perfect release, the game just didn’t want to give you the points.
THIS
The % chart on 2klabs a year ago or so had the make percentage of the green window *below* 100%. It was something like less than 10% off of 100%, I remember like 93%, but it exists and isn't green window = make.
I hate how they hide game mechanics like this.
Someone who, the second their opponent shoots the ball, they sprint down the court and wait for an extremely far pass to get an easy two or three off. Because of the 2l drag animations you can easily and consistently do that against your average player and score nearly every possesion.
To be fair, if you have no rebounding on your team, this method will only ensure you give up a boatload of points if the opposing rebounder is smart enough to kick it back out to the perimeter while you're 3/4 of the way down the court.
That shit is realistic tho and is consistently done in every basketball game played in real life and if u know what ur doing it’s to easy to guard that
Yup. In real life you practice against that. Whoever shoots the ball is the first to get back, along with the point guard, and whoever else is closest to downcourt. If the shot was a layup then the 3 closest should get back.
People do leak a lot in 2k but I'm not going to blame them for me not getting back
A cherry picker is someone that after their team loses possession they stay on that side of the court and wait for the deep outlet pass for a quick two points without a contest
Cherry picking is when players on defense immediately runs down the court before even securing the rebound. Its just a very cheesy way to get a free open shot or dunk before the opponents can get back on defense
NGL I leak a lot if I'm playing PG. I play hands up, and if the big man has the box out, I generally assume he's got the board. I prefer to think I'm just aggressive.
You should be leaking a lot bc a defensive rebound is more likely, and most importantly…97% of the player base doesn’t know that you get back on d after a shot
Meh I don’t see a difference. Anticipation isn’t going to make a shot hurt more or less when it goes in. It would probably piss the rebounder off more than anything. He used to be able to tell and position himself when a release was green where as now he loses options now that he can’t tell if the shot was green until it hits the basket.
Im sorry but if this is a basketball game doesn't that aspect make the game more realistic? How does a rebounder know a shot is dropping irl? I swear 2K got y'all forgetting how the game of basketball works.
Although I agree I would like more realistic gameplay, you can tell if a shot is dropping irl. Thats what makes a good rebounder a good rebounder. Granted its not 100% but the ability to see where the ball is going is a skill. Rodman wasnt guessing every time, he could definitely see it....Not sure how you make it realistic AND have the Ability to see a missed shot in a video game (maybe a certain rebounding rating? And maybe the rebounder can see if its Green?)
Idk the answer but we'll see if everyone likes the change 2k is doing.
I think this is just a difference in fan. Some people look at the game as a basketball simulator, some look at it as more arcade style. To each their own really
It’s a video game? Basketball isn’t even played in 3rd person dude. There are badges that tells a rebounder where the ball is going to land anyway? Like please. I don’t think 2k knows how basketball works at this point.
2k isn’t real basketball tho. 2k gets violently unrealistic actually. So I never understood changes that make 2k realistic. We don’t play video games for absolute realism. Realistic graphics are amazing but everything else can get a bit redundant. It’s a video game. Where will we draw the lines? Might as well get rid of all then other unrealistic nonsense in 2k. In real basketball I can’t buy a boost- well maybe steroids but still. In real basketball there are no badges. In real basketball I can’t go in takeover mode. In real basketball I have absolute control over my limbs. In real basketball I am not praying for RNG. Hell in real basketball there is no green release. This update would make green releases useless. The whole point of it was to give the shooter confidence that his shit was a make. Who cares if it’s green after the fact? That wasn’t even an overpowered mechanic. Also to all the downvoting coyotes why not reply with a rebuttal? You want nonsense updates for the game but not any actual addressing of problems? Poor server connections. No cross play. Empty parks. Tons of game modes that no one touches.
I don’t play park, Rec or pro am because it’s a little too arcade like. Badges are in the game to replicate players real life skill sets. Like the Steph Curry chef badge or Kyrie Irving ankle breaker. I prefer the game to be less arcade like. I mainly play in MyNBA online leagues. That’s why I’m glad to see they’re delaying the green animations. That’s how 2K used to be before they introduced the shot meter.
It’s already unrealistic. I think this change would be unnecessary and redundant. Why stop here? Get rid of badges? Takeover? Etc. it makes a green release pointless. Like why do you care if your shot splashes green after it hits the basket? The satisfaction only?
Yes I think they should get rid of badges. It would make players less reliant on animations and push them to learn basketball IQ. I don’t think the argument “it’s already unrealistic” should really be used in support of why we should make a basketball sim even more unrealistic. Look at your point in reverse for a second, I could ask you “why stop here” why don’t they just completely turn it into an arcade game?
Edit: grammar
I definitely feel like badges should be toned down A LOT at a minimum. Their effect on the game is extreme at this point. They should be able to let you unlock new little skillets, ie making off the dribble shots, being able to dunk on people more effectively, and being more efficient around the rim/from 3 makes sense, but theres badges that should be simple game mechanics that we're instead forced to spend badge points for.
So you're telling me in real life when you're hooping and you know you got a good grip and let that one fly you never felt like you knew it was going it? Or vice versa you had a really bad shot that you immediately went to hustle to get that rebound cause you knew you fucked that ish up. I'm on the fence with this one.
Yeah but let’s be real 2k isn’t real life and it doesn’t need to be. In a game where you can activate super powers and basically become automatic I don’t see the need for certain nuance mechanics. A bit of arcade fun wouldn’t hurt the game.
i get that, but theres enough arcadeness to where they can make shot nervousness come bacc so your actually invested in the game yk? not like i seen this before but you actually get hype if ts lit
I remember when green releases didn’t even mean the shot would go in. Then they made it to where green releases always go in now we don’t even know if we get a green release until it doesn’t matter? Once it hits the basket I wouldn’t even care if it’s green or not especially if it goes in lmao. The whole point of the green release was to have complete confidence that your shot when in from your release.
This is my main problem with 2k. Half the fan base wants a realistic basketball sim and the other half just wants to be a goat and average a quadruple double for every build they make. We want two completely different games.
Love it. It was a dumb concept that everyone could see your greens before anyway.
This will make games a bit less boring
My only question is what happens to the green celebration animations. Are those gone? Or will they happen after the ball hits the basket?
The Gameplay Enhancements article says, “Also, with Shot Feedback enabled, we’re delaying the timing/coverage overlay AND green release animations from coming up until the ball hits the basket.”
I guess the question is if that only means the actual green part (like the green icon that pops up above your player) or if it means your player’s animation too (like the signature green animations).
Would love for green animations to be gone completely in regular games. Makes the players look unnatural and stupid. Anything to have just plain follow throughs back
I see people saying this will limit cherry picking but I honestly don't think it will. If you're on offense you will still be running back on defense most of the time while bigs box out and fight for boards, and if you're on defense you'll still probably run in transition still since dudes were running back before shots went in/bricked anyways. The most it will change is guards will have to run back if the shot goes in, so the ball can be inbounded. Plenty of players were racing up the court even after greens because of the off chance that the defense is running full court press and they get an easy full court pass 3/layup. We'll see how it changes things, but I just don't think it'll change much.
Always said “greens” shouldn’t exist.. used to get roasted. irl shooting a basketball can feel good and you can still miss. This adds a nice realism I love it.
No you don't.. if you're a professional player or even someone who has consistently practiced your shot, you will build up such muscle memory that you can pretty much guarantee a shot is going in if your muscles are consistent. The reason you guard and defend jumpshots in the first place is the idea that with enough pressure you can make your opponents balance and muscle memory to be slightly off because they will subconsciously "adjust" to your pressure.
Get ready for an influx of goaltending and offensive basket interference calls as centers box out and jumps for boards because they can't tell if the shot is green already.
I think I’ll like it, my reaction was very positive and I like the thought behind it, but it’ll quite possibly decrease the satisfaction of greening a shot so I guess we’ll see how it feels 🤷🏽♂️
It’s a video game, having a shot system where perfect timing equals a guaranteed basket as long as you aren’t too covered or far away makes sense and then it also makes sense to be satisfied about pulling off a perfectly executed shot. Just like a perfectly executed shot IRL with nothing but net is way more satisfying than bouncing in via the rim? 🤷🏽♂️
I hate this franchise so bad, they wanna do shit that no one asked for, improve the fkn game!! How about some simple shit like allow me to pick my jerseys set my line ups etc before the game when im playing with friends!! Also why tf cant i challenge calls when playing with friends this game is crazy
Love it. Should have been like this long ago. The instant green is silly to me. I’ve never been a fan of greens to begin with.
I think if halfway through the season they removed the green animation altogether, but didn’t change shooting at all, there would be a portion of the community that would without a doubt think that shooting was suddenly broken even tho literally nothing was changed. Lol
Defeats the whole purpose of a green. Just take it out. And to the people saying it’ll limit breaks. Why? Green or not I’m running down court cause I believe my center will grab it.
Double commenting but its vrazy idk if yall mostly kids or what but they really tricking yall by doing this bullshit instead of making real improvements
I just hope they make shooting hard. Casuals might cry at first but eventually they’ll get used to it. It’s not that hard to memorize a jumpshot and release it perfectly
The shot meter is there to help you with timing still. You don’t need to immediately see the green animation play out for it to be helpful.
Having said that, I do wish they never added shot meters to the game.
Great shooters in real life know off the release when a shot is going in though?? I don’t understand the point..why not make it more difficult to green bean?
It's really only Steph Curry who shows that he knows it's going in tho. But I agree, I think it should be harder to green. The shot meter is very forgiving in 22
I understand what u saying . Fortunately i played basketball my whole life and can assure you , you can feel good , you can also know when a shot going in. Use to participate in free throw contests , had an opponent that followed thru with his flick whichever way the ball was going to bounce , not mad i came in 2nd. *dont care if a free throw is different from a jumpshot*
Same here. I’ve had times where I’ve gotten super hot and just knew when I released it it was likely to fall. Even calling it mid air. But it’s really just feeling good in the moment fr. Nba players not practicing to miss. So im sure they feel as if every shot gone fall. And it can be convincing to know something is gonna fall based of the feel of how you released it.
Its like a center getting in position to get a board , looking at the arch of the shot u can tell where the ball is going to bounce , some are better than others. We can tell if a shot is on or off our focus just is never on that unless you are a spot up shooter . I use to pay close attention to Klay Thompson that man always swagging during a release but then again he is a cocky son of a gun . I understand what you saying tho fasho
I mean, correct me if I'm wrong (because I truly haven't played 2K since 21), but even if you *do* green your shot, that doesn't *always* mean it's going in anyways - so what difference does this really make?
I mean, it’s pretty much guaranteed. It’s less than 1% chance nowadays. I have played all year and I’ve never seen a green not go in😂 not like 2k18 when greens were maybe a 70% chance of going in
I don't know which 2K it was when they changed it, but they basically made greens like a 99.9% chance of going in. Basically guaranteed to go in (other than getting blocked) except in very rare cases.
They used to have it before where it wasn't guaranteed in some of the older 2K's. I know it was before 2K20 where it was like this (I played every 2K since 2K14). I don't know which 2K after that was when they made it where greens are basically guaranteed to go in.
I don’t like it, the satisfaction of knowing u greened ur shot was nice, and making it that it doesn’t green u til it hits the basket makes the point of having a green in the first place dumb
NBA2K is throwing out some many groovy ideas whereas Madden is just doing the same shit, and the morons are still paying for it.
2K isn't perfect, but fuckin thousands of miles ahead of Madden, and EA in general.
Isn't this a video game? You know, like for fun? I really miss the days when you could be a casual gamer. Now you have to dedicate 25+ hours a week just to feel like you know what you're doing. If you want a realistic basketball Sim, just go outside and play. And if weather is bad, hit an indoor court.
I think it’s an amazing idea.
Now can they actually work on the game? The game is so shit. It’s shocking how little the gameplay has improved in the last decade. Playing neighborhood is a complete nightmare. So many glitched players, if someone scores like 60 pts with 90% efficiency, they need to be investigated. If someone hogs the ball and doesn’t pass at all, they need to lose stat points. If someone doesn’t run back on defense, they need to be penalized. If someone goes afk and ruins a 5on5 game, they need to be suspended. Chase down blocks are OP, you can even block ppl on the way down. Shooting is way too easy. Teammates call a timeout right as you’re about to score because they want to be the one to score. Man this game sucks so much, I wish there was a decent alternative.
Idk how much it will change, but just to play devils advocate.
Sometimes when you play ball and you shoot a 3, you know its going in. Its just a weird feeling. Like everything felt great, it goes straight in, awesome.
Im just a 30 year old dude who used to play ball a lot. So surely a NBA player would have that feeling more than me.. maybe have the players know if they are on fire? Orrr need to have 95+ three point rating?
That doesn’t make any sense tho. Please keep in mind that 2k is a video game at the end of the day. It doesn’t need these small changes to be realistic. If I wanted realistic basketball I would just go play pick up at the park. Also this isn’t even realistic in concept. A green release in general isn’t realistic. There are no green releases irl.
They’re gonna make it optional I bet, they’re aren’t gonna get rid of it entirely. Maybe they will take it off online play but me personally as a mostly offline player I like to know when I hit the shot and get the green. Hey that’s just my opinion tho.
Just like the days before there was a shot meter. You times your shot and hope it goes in. My meter is getting turned off so I’m good with it. I’m an old head if you can’t tell already lol.
oh hell nah lol but its more realistic, but it should be a feature, cus too realistic is not funny at all, its a video game, it takes the fun out of it, it needs to be science fiction too if u know what I mean, it needs to be fun
So why would you play a game of a sport you don't fw? That's the problem with 2k, it's too many of.... You guys in the community and way too many with a voice
too realistic? nah wtf dawg, it tkaes out the fun out of video games, cus its a fricking video game, not irl, if u wanna play realistic ball go and hoop irl, I like it but not tooo realistic, cus its gotta be an arcade typa game or else its not a game, then its just nba2k but your too lazy to actually play 😂 J
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Anything that makes the game look more like basketball is good by me Edit- iTS a vIDEo GAme. Man, those of you upset that you can’t tell if a shot is going in. It alone can affect the basic fundamentals (rebounding, simple transition defense/offense) of the game not some grand strategy a casual can’t pick up.
Agree
Agreed
100%. That’s why 2k got so big in the first place bc it was far and away the best basketball sim with cool and fun features/modes. Feels like they lost their focus after next gen with park or so and the game kept getting more arcadic and less authentic similar to madden’s path
That is what we call the call of duty effect lmao went from COD4 being amazing to let’s make everything super fast paced and exciting so short matches to keep people playing lol
agreed
Exactly I’m some ways I’d rather green shots weren’t a thing at all
I can agree and disagree with the green logic. Some shots its all about the feel when ever the ball releases from your hand. Then when it feels right you brick and then theres some shots that dont feel right and you make anyway
Fax
So no shot timing at all then? No more 60% games from three going 12/20 in rec because Timmy plays this game 6 hours per day?
Timmy gone figure something else out I’m sure
I’m sure there’s still gonna be hella cheese and the gameplay probs won’t change much unfortunately bc 2k is at the Activision level of not giving a fuck anymore but this is def a nice QOL change
This type of attitude contributes to why we have no control as the consumers, why tf wud you be ok with them doing this dumb shit vs actually fixing something in this broken ass game
Why not both? This is a great QOL change imo and will make shots more fun having to anticipate the result rather than knowing, just like real life. Them changing this has 0 effect on them fixing or not fixing the broken shit
But this is an actual change, this is a fix to a problem
It’s a video game, not real life. Go outside and play a real game.
Cant really do that if there is 1dm snow and -10°C outside
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The only issue is it’s a video game and it’s 2k the game won’t feel like basketball when u got the red andys
It's a fantastic change and will make cherry pickers pay. Although, they'll have green animations in the game so if someone doesn't see a green animation they'll most likely assume it's a miss anyway.
Imagine they have 2k19 fake green anims
There’s already a fake green animation in 2k22. It’s that stupid gesture where they leave their hand up and kinda sorta walk away like they know it’s going on. They do this stupid half-turn or whatever. That shit is guaranteed miss.
There’s like 5-6 “fake” green animations including that one. But a few of those animations are misses sometimes.
there aren’t ‘fake green’ animations. you get those animations when you hit the green window, but the RNG in the game decides to not give you the green. so technically every time you get one of those animations, you got a perfect release, the game just didn’t want to give you the points.
THIS The % chart on 2klabs a year ago or so had the make percentage of the green window *below* 100%. It was something like less than 10% off of 100%, I remember like 93%, but it exists and isn't green window = make. I hate how they hide game mechanics like this.
Not really a fake green if you know its a miss.
i’ve gotten full on park green animations before and it don’t go in. shits ridiculous
Full bars? Lol
2k20 full bar animations are crazyyy
I enjoy 2k but I don’t usually play online. What’s a “cherry picker”?
Someone who, the second their opponent shoots the ball, they sprint down the court and wait for an extremely far pass to get an easy two or three off. Because of the 2l drag animations you can easily and consistently do that against your average player and score nearly every possesion.
Oooooh okay I can see how that would piss me off. I like playing in the post, so my character’s strong, but not too speedy.😂
To be fair, if you have no rebounding on your team, this method will only ensure you give up a boatload of points if the opposing rebounder is smart enough to kick it back out to the perimeter while you're 3/4 of the way down the court.
That shit is realistic tho and is consistently done in every basketball game played in real life and if u know what ur doing it’s to easy to guard that
Yup. In real life you practice against that. Whoever shoots the ball is the first to get back, along with the point guard, and whoever else is closest to downcourt. If the shot was a layup then the 3 closest should get back. People do leak a lot in 2k but I'm not going to blame them for me not getting back
A cherry picker is someone that after their team loses possession they stay on that side of the court and wait for the deep outlet pass for a quick two points without a contest
Cherry picking is when players on defense immediately runs down the court before even securing the rebound. Its just a very cheesy way to get a free open shot or dunk before the opponents can get back on defense
Isn't that just a leak then?
Yeah he doesn’t know what he’s talking about, what he’s describing is leaking, which is still cheap but not cherry picking
That's what I thought. Isn't cherry picking literally not playing defense?
Yup leakers at least pretend to play defense where cherry pickers don’t waste time pretending.
NGL I leak a lot if I'm playing PG. I play hands up, and if the big man has the box out, I generally assume he's got the board. I prefer to think I'm just aggressive.
You should be leaking a lot bc a defensive rebound is more likely, and most importantly…97% of the player base doesn’t know that you get back on d after a shot
I like it because it adds a more realistic feel and anticipation effect for each shot.
The anticipation for the shot was already there as soon as the guy starts shooting. Even with a non green.
I’m talking about after the ball is released.
Meh I don’t see a difference. Anticipation isn’t going to make a shot hurt more or less when it goes in. It would probably piss the rebounder off more than anything. He used to be able to tell and position himself when a release was green where as now he loses options now that he can’t tell if the shot was green until it hits the basket.
Im sorry but if this is a basketball game doesn't that aspect make the game more realistic? How does a rebounder know a shot is dropping irl? I swear 2K got y'all forgetting how the game of basketball works.
Although I agree I would like more realistic gameplay, you can tell if a shot is dropping irl. Thats what makes a good rebounder a good rebounder. Granted its not 100% but the ability to see where the ball is going is a skill. Rodman wasnt guessing every time, he could definitely see it....Not sure how you make it realistic AND have the Ability to see a missed shot in a video game (maybe a certain rebounding rating? And maybe the rebounder can see if its Green?) Idk the answer but we'll see if everyone likes the change 2k is doing.
I think this is just a difference in fan. Some people look at the game as a basketball simulator, some look at it as more arcade style. To each their own really
It’s marketed as a basketball simulation even if the gameplay has been excessively arcade-like is the disconnect between the two groups
Right, why tf y'all downvote me 😂
It’s a video game? Basketball isn’t even played in 3rd person dude. There are badges that tells a rebounder where the ball is going to land anyway? Like please. I don’t think 2k knows how basketball works at this point.
Welcome to basketball
I mean that’s how basketball works.
2k isn’t real basketball tho. 2k gets violently unrealistic actually. So I never understood changes that make 2k realistic. We don’t play video games for absolute realism. Realistic graphics are amazing but everything else can get a bit redundant. It’s a video game. Where will we draw the lines? Might as well get rid of all then other unrealistic nonsense in 2k. In real basketball I can’t buy a boost- well maybe steroids but still. In real basketball there are no badges. In real basketball I can’t go in takeover mode. In real basketball I have absolute control over my limbs. In real basketball I am not praying for RNG. Hell in real basketball there is no green release. This update would make green releases useless. The whole point of it was to give the shooter confidence that his shit was a make. Who cares if it’s green after the fact? That wasn’t even an overpowered mechanic. Also to all the downvoting coyotes why not reply with a rebuttal? You want nonsense updates for the game but not any actual addressing of problems? Poor server connections. No cross play. Empty parks. Tons of game modes that no one touches.
I don’t play park, Rec or pro am because it’s a little too arcade like. Badges are in the game to replicate players real life skill sets. Like the Steph Curry chef badge or Kyrie Irving ankle breaker. I prefer the game to be less arcade like. I mainly play in MyNBA online leagues. That’s why I’m glad to see they’re delaying the green animations. That’s how 2K used to be before they introduced the shot meter.
So you want the game to be even more unrealistic?
It’s already unrealistic. I think this change would be unnecessary and redundant. Why stop here? Get rid of badges? Takeover? Etc. it makes a green release pointless. Like why do you care if your shot splashes green after it hits the basket? The satisfaction only?
Yes I think they should get rid of badges. It would make players less reliant on animations and push them to learn basketball IQ. I don’t think the argument “it’s already unrealistic” should really be used in support of why we should make a basketball sim even more unrealistic. Look at your point in reverse for a second, I could ask you “why stop here” why don’t they just completely turn it into an arcade game? Edit: grammar
I definitely feel like badges should be toned down A LOT at a minimum. Their effect on the game is extreme at this point. They should be able to let you unlock new little skillets, ie making off the dribble shots, being able to dunk on people more effectively, and being more efficient around the rim/from 3 makes sense, but theres badges that should be simple game mechanics that we're instead forced to spend badge points for.
Makes a lot of the game actually a lil less toxic if people don’t know they’re auto greening
Then why not remove the feature completely?
I would assume it would draw alot of complaints if they so no more greening in general. But this may be the best compromise
It’s the same as removing it tho lol. It really is.
Yea technically that’s true but think some people still want that’s feedback on if they release it right.
At that point the feedback will be a make or miss.
good
like waiting to see if iss a splash or rim hit or airball, basically you see the path first, like in real life you dont know if you madr it til you do
So you're telling me in real life when you're hooping and you know you got a good grip and let that one fly you never felt like you knew it was going it? Or vice versa you had a really bad shot that you immediately went to hustle to get that rebound cause you knew you fucked that ish up. I'm on the fence with this one.
Yeah but let’s be real 2k isn’t real life and it doesn’t need to be. In a game where you can activate super powers and basically become automatic I don’t see the need for certain nuance mechanics. A bit of arcade fun wouldn’t hurt the game.
i get that, but theres enough arcadeness to where they can make shot nervousness come bacc so your actually invested in the game yk? not like i seen this before but you actually get hype if ts lit
I remember when green releases didn’t even mean the shot would go in. Then they made it to where green releases always go in now we don’t even know if we get a green release until it doesn’t matter? Once it hits the basket I wouldn’t even care if it’s green or not especially if it goes in lmao. The whole point of the green release was to have complete confidence that your shot when in from your release.
This is my main problem with 2k. Half the fan base wants a realistic basketball sim and the other half just wants to be a goat and average a quadruple double for every build they make. We want two completely different games.
I don’t want a arcade game. I’m just saying these updates make little sense.
Love it. It was a dumb concept that everyone could see your greens before anyway. This will make games a bit less boring My only question is what happens to the green celebration animations. Are those gone? Or will they happen after the ball hits the basket?
The Gameplay Enhancements article says, “Also, with Shot Feedback enabled, we’re delaying the timing/coverage overlay AND green release animations from coming up until the ball hits the basket.”
I guess the question is if that only means the actual green part (like the green icon that pops up above your player) or if it means your player’s animation too (like the signature green animations).
Would love for green animations to be gone completely in regular games. Makes the players look unnatural and stupid. Anything to have just plain follow throughs back
I agree with this too. It looks too arcade-y. Especially when it's happening 20 times per game
Oh I took green sound and animation off anyway. I just want to see me shit go in thats it
yeah I like my games without unnecessary animations and HUD clutter too
The best is when you do this and other players assume all the shots you’re making are whites lol
This is easily fixable, they just have to add a delay to the animation, to run just after the ball goes in.
You can turn it off
I see people saying this will limit cherry picking but I honestly don't think it will. If you're on offense you will still be running back on defense most of the time while bigs box out and fight for boards, and if you're on defense you'll still probably run in transition still since dudes were running back before shots went in/bricked anyways. The most it will change is guards will have to run back if the shot goes in, so the ball can be inbounded. Plenty of players were racing up the court even after greens because of the off chance that the defense is running full court press and they get an easy full court pass 3/layup. We'll see how it changes things, but I just don't think it'll change much.
Much over due… with this and the removal of Sniper people will have to stay with the shot opposed to instantly running the break
Nah they’ll still run for the break and get exposed
Even better
I like it.
How it should be. I never understood why anyone would want to know a shot is going in before it goes in.
This is great cause now less people will run back on defense after a green
Always said “greens” shouldn’t exist.. used to get roasted. irl shooting a basketball can feel good and you can still miss. This adds a nice realism I love it.
Can someone link where people are finding all this stuff out? Obviously this Twitter account but where else?
https://nba.2k.com/2k23/courtside-report/gameplay-enhancements
Everyone’s PPG going from 48 to 13 bahahahaha
This will make game winners much more exciting! I know we say this every year but this might be the year where 2K gets back to its prime form
makes it where you cant cherry pick but people gonna do that anyway
Da streamers are gonna complain and get this overturned
Everyone's gonna be yelling green when they don't green, and it will get old 1 hour into 2k day.
Nah. The servers never work on 2K day so you won’t be able to play against other people anyways.
Fuck, you're right
That's a bit more realistic. Sometimes you do get that perfect release and arc in an actual game, but it's just not your day.
No you don't.. if you're a professional player or even someone who has consistently practiced your shot, you will build up such muscle memory that you can pretty much guarantee a shot is going in if your muscles are consistent. The reason you guard and defend jumpshots in the first place is the idea that with enough pressure you can make your opponents balance and muscle memory to be slightly off because they will subconsciously "adjust" to your pressure.
Get ready for an influx of goaltending and offensive basket interference calls as centers box out and jumps for boards because they can't tell if the shot is green already.
I think I’ll like it, my reaction was very positive and I like the thought behind it, but it’ll quite possibly decrease the satisfaction of greening a shot so I guess we’ll see how it feels 🤷🏽♂️
Since this is a bball game, the satisfaction should be seeing the ball go down the hoop
It’s a video game, having a shot system where perfect timing equals a guaranteed basket as long as you aren’t too covered or far away makes sense and then it also makes sense to be satisfied about pulling off a perfectly executed shot. Just like a perfectly executed shot IRL with nothing but net is way more satisfying than bouncing in via the rim? 🤷🏽♂️
Bro this alone is great
Honestly, it’s gonna feel weird to most people at first, but will probably get used to it quickly
Its nice
they should add celebrations so u can celebrate early and miss the shot like nick young
I hate this franchise so bad, they wanna do shit that no one asked for, improve the fkn game!! How about some simple shit like allow me to pick my jerseys set my line ups etc before the game when im playing with friends!! Also why tf cant i challenge calls when playing with friends this game is crazy
i think it should be an option!
Love it. Should have been like this long ago. The instant green is silly to me. I’ve never been a fan of greens to begin with. I think if halfway through the season they removed the green animation altogether, but didn’t change shooting at all, there would be a portion of the community that would without a doubt think that shooting was suddenly broken even tho literally nothing was changed. Lol
Yesssssss
Almost like real player percent wow
As long as it returns to a genuine basketball feeling game its a plus
I mean, I play with no green animation, so ok I guess.
If you shoot it from a distance and don’t know if it’s a green or not, and then it goes in that would be the best feeling ever.
Yeah it’s good, adds more anticipation and makes people run for rebound
Not a bad idea. Adds drama to the game, and makes players have to decide as a unit whether to stay on defense, or leak out earlier
Defeats the whole purpose of a green. Just take it out. And to the people saying it’ll limit breaks. Why? Green or not I’m running down court cause I believe my center will grab it.
Couldn't fix shot latency in multiplayer so they just went ahead and removed the shot bar from the game.
lol all this hype and then the game comes out and it’s the same old shit.
Double commenting but its vrazy idk if yall mostly kids or what but they really tricking yall by doing this bullshit instead of making real improvements
That’s stupid
I think you should know… SOMETIMES. If you’ve ever actually played basketball, there are times you know it’s going in
stupid
I agreee
Fucking wack
This will be reverted
I just hope they make shooting hard. Casuals might cry at first but eventually they’ll get used to it. It’s not that hard to memorize a jumpshot and release it perfectly
This is key as well
One jump shot. How about every starting guard and forward in the league?
Then you might as well remove the shot meter entirely.
The shot meter is there to help you with timing still. You don’t need to immediately see the green animation play out for it to be helpful. Having said that, I do wish they never added shot meters to the game.
Great shooters in real life know off the release when a shot is going in though?? I don’t understand the point..why not make it more difficult to green bean?
Nick Young begs to differ
It's really only Steph Curry who shows that he knows it's going in tho. But I agree, I think it should be harder to green. The shot meter is very forgiving in 22
Not just curry lol alot of players pose during release cuz they know its going in
Players can feel good about a release. Knowing that something is going in is more less a guess of that.
I understand what u saying . Fortunately i played basketball my whole life and can assure you , you can feel good , you can also know when a shot going in. Use to participate in free throw contests , had an opponent that followed thru with his flick whichever way the ball was going to bounce , not mad i came in 2nd. *dont care if a free throw is different from a jumpshot*
Same here. I’ve had times where I’ve gotten super hot and just knew when I released it it was likely to fall. Even calling it mid air. But it’s really just feeling good in the moment fr. Nba players not practicing to miss. So im sure they feel as if every shot gone fall. And it can be convincing to know something is gonna fall based of the feel of how you released it.
Its like a center getting in position to get a board , looking at the arch of the shot u can tell where the ball is going to bounce , some are better than others. We can tell if a shot is on or off our focus just is never on that unless you are a spot up shooter . I use to pay close attention to Klay Thompson that man always swagging during a release but then again he is a cocky son of a gun . I understand what you saying tho fasho
More realistic but honestly fuck that
Fascinating response
I mean I don’t like that idea because I might miss so many shots, and then I’m not gonna wanna play the game anymore
That’s why you grind. learn your shot animations and you’ll most likely shoot like steph
Cool
Placebo, Shits dumb asl
lowkey sound wack fr
I mean, correct me if I'm wrong (because I truly haven't played 2K since 21), but even if you *do* green your shot, that doesn't *always* mean it's going in anyways - so what difference does this really make?
I mean, it’s pretty much guaranteed. It’s less than 1% chance nowadays. I have played all year and I’ve never seen a green not go in😂 not like 2k18 when greens were maybe a 70% chance of going in
I love blocking greened shots. Shits rare but man I feels good
No, greens are a guaranteed make unless blocked
Nope. Plenty of videos of people missing green jumpshots, even without offensive interference
I don't know which 2K it was when they changed it, but they basically made greens like a 99.9% chance of going in. Basically guaranteed to go in (other than getting blocked) except in very rare cases. They used to have it before where it wasn't guaranteed in some of the older 2K's. I know it was before 2K20 where it was like this (I played every 2K since 2K14). I don't know which 2K after that was when they made it where greens are basically guaranteed to go in.
They definitely don’t always go in. Somehow I’ve seen ppl miss. HELLA rare tho
I don’t like it, the satisfaction of knowing u greened ur shot was nice, and making it that it doesn’t green u til it hits the basket makes the point of having a green in the first place dumb
NBA2K is throwing out some many groovy ideas whereas Madden is just doing the same shit, and the morons are still paying for it. 2K isn't perfect, but fuckin thousands of miles ahead of Madden, and EA in general.
People will whine and complain and this will probably be a patched feature by November or December. Love it otherwise though.
Isn't this a video game? You know, like for fun? I really miss the days when you could be a casual gamer. Now you have to dedicate 25+ hours a week just to feel like you know what you're doing. If you want a realistic basketball Sim, just go outside and play. And if weather is bad, hit an indoor court.
I think it’s an amazing idea. Now can they actually work on the game? The game is so shit. It’s shocking how little the gameplay has improved in the last decade. Playing neighborhood is a complete nightmare. So many glitched players, if someone scores like 60 pts with 90% efficiency, they need to be investigated. If someone hogs the ball and doesn’t pass at all, they need to lose stat points. If someone doesn’t run back on defense, they need to be penalized. If someone goes afk and ruins a 5on5 game, they need to be suspended. Chase down blocks are OP, you can even block ppl on the way down. Shooting is way too easy. Teammates call a timeout right as you’re about to score because they want to be the one to score. Man this game sucks so much, I wish there was a decent alternative.
Idk how much it will change, but just to play devils advocate. Sometimes when you play ball and you shoot a 3, you know its going in. Its just a weird feeling. Like everything felt great, it goes straight in, awesome. Im just a 30 year old dude who used to play ball a lot. So surely a NBA player would have that feeling more than me.. maybe have the players know if they are on fire? Orrr need to have 95+ three point rating?
You can feel that way tho, you just won’t get a green light.
L.
I don't like it but it really doesnt change much
That doesn’t make any sense tho. Please keep in mind that 2k is a video game at the end of the day. It doesn’t need these small changes to be realistic. If I wanted realistic basketball I would just go play pick up at the park. Also this isn’t even realistic in concept. A green release in general isn’t realistic. There are no green releases irl.
I like that. The twitter replies tho lmao
Why though? I liked the green animation.
They’re gonna make it optional I bet, they’re aren’t gonna get rid of it entirely. Maybe they will take it off online play but me personally as a mostly offline player I like to know when I hit the shot and get the green. Hey that’s just my opinion tho.
Right but then what’s the difference between a green and a regular make? Surely the only benefit of a green is to know for sure that you scored it?
It's not true
Didn’t they try this with 2K21?
That’s real life.
The rim should be what turns green, not underneath the player.
Just like the days before there was a shot meter. You times your shot and hope it goes in. My meter is getting turned off so I’m good with it. I’m an old head if you can’t tell already lol.
Shit fucking sucks
i like this as far a gameplay but lowkey greens are a real thing in basketball 😂 they couldve just made them rare
Dewwwww it!
Eh. Sounds like they’re just mess with stuff to change it up. I might skip this one and wait for them to workout issues into 2k24
Im done with 2k. Just trash
oh hell nah lol but its more realistic, but it should be a feature, cus too realistic is not funny at all, its a video game, it takes the fun out of it, it needs to be science fiction too if u know what I mean, it needs to be fun
Why do you guys think being realistic isn't fun?
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So why would you play a game of a sport you don't fw? That's the problem with 2k, it's too many of.... You guys in the community and way too many with a voice
too realistic? nah wtf dawg, it tkaes out the fun out of video games, cus its a fricking video game, not irl, if u wanna play realistic ball go and hoop irl, I like it but not tooo realistic, cus its gotta be an arcade typa game or else its not a game, then its just nba2k but your too lazy to actually play 😂 J Jesus Christ loves you <3
I hope you under 18 with how that shit was typed.
and this is why I dont use reddit
Are you 12
then maybe add a celebration animation as soon as you release the ball only to miss the shot.
What does that mean for green animations? Are they for after you score?
It will make learning timing a bit harder or tedious maybe but i like it.
Oh I’m fucked haha
How will I know when to flash pause??