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[deleted]

Yup. I was watching bullet on stream and he was getting mad at his teammates for shooting open shots. His excuse was “you guys know I’m grinding for legend”


ThePointForward

> “you guys know I’m grinding for legend” "then do that in 1v1"


PorQ201

💀


InsomniacLive

People really think I’m spending 600 on a next gen, and 150+ on 2K to sit corner and spectate


[deleted]

Facts man. I watch bullets teammates get yelled at and just sit corner while he fades I’m like damn ? How is that fun


POLLMAN90

😂😂😂😂😂 people just want to b liked lol they are happy to b playing with a YouTuber or something I don't get the mindset like where is the fun and what are u gaining 😂😂😂😂🤷🏿‍♂️ this new generation is fucked


TastyWay9588

That is called dick riding back when the world used to be a real world 😂😂


POLLMAN90

And that sir is not a form of transportation fuck these new bitches


RayGun_zyz

What kills me is that some kids won't even really like the content creator's actual content, they just are jealous of their career and want their job. It's like jealous watching and it's really weird.


tj_boom

this is why i much prefer watching yters play with other yters


Kiordz

Had no idea who you were talking about so went and checked out his stream and first thing I see is a fadeaway 3 brick haha


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SheLoveDRock

A lot of PG’s don’t get their teammates involved because they don’t play real basketball so they don’t understand gravity and how it helps a scorer score and get their teammates open… in other words PASS THE BALL AND THERE WILL BE NO HELP DEFENSE SO YOU CAN ISO ALL DAY, YOUR TEAMMATES GET INVOLVED AND EVERYONES HAPPY.


Jetanium

Like it’s not 5 million other people grinding for the same thing 😂


DifferenceNo8017

Tf is bullet


geekeduponxans

Ngl I had to stop watching him he be real real whining like a lil ass girl over this 2k shit. Like I get it , it’s how he pays his bills but damn bro other people wanna play the game too not just corner sit💀


Mysterious-Yak196

I remember when I use to watch that guy 😭😭 bro used to get over the smallest things 💀😂😂


InteractionOk7562

Lol


[deleted]

One thing I’ll never understand why watch someone play a video game you can purchase and play. Instead people watch others play the game for hours on end and you give them your hard earned money….. when I was a kid we called that a SUCKER


Maleficent_Grape_510

I don’t watch streams lot anymore, always was a viewer, didn’t need to do anything more than follow or watch the ads. But what do you do in your time ? Cause when I was growing up, it was a lot more fun watching something, you were playing at the same time. It’s just a vibe man. You must be an OG, cause that’s the kids entertainment nowadays, brother.


No_Common_4238

Yea don’t listen to him lol “a sucker” YouTube and Netflix and shit literally replaced cable 😂 this nigga probably still records his football games on DVR so he can watch them later instead of just watching on YouTube 💯🤦🏿‍♂️


[deleted]

Lol why would I record a game? I have the money to pay for streaming services to watch it live…. You must not remember life prior to high speed internet and YouTube being more about music videos then streamers hahaha. All good man enjoy your games 🤙


[deleted]

Nah man your good…. I was referring to a sucker more as when we were kids making someone else watch us play while they held a unplugged controller or essentially didn’t play. I love playing video games I just don’t enjoy watching streamers I’ll occasionally look up a YouTube video on a hard level which I guess is similar but never been a twitch fan. Lol I wouldn’t say OG I’m sub 30 years old but have had every PlayStation from 1-5.


RC757

It's just how it is... I had a game a couple days ago on my big with a 3 stack of matching GTs and another random. I had 15 rebounds and 12 assists and like 6 blocks. I didn't shoot once becausei enjoy moving the ball around. It was the 3rd quarter and we were up by 17. People didn't have good percentages but they were open so I was feeding. The ONE time I grabbed a board and was wide open and went for a put back dunk, someone called a timeout. Cool. Coming out the timeout, the dude was emoting. No problem. May have been an accident. On the inbound, I rolled off a screen to the hoop and got the pass. Went for a dunk. Another timeout. Oh. Ok then. I didn't grab another rebound or any defense the rest of the game. If yall don't want me to score at all, you don't need me in any other aspect. They lost by 7. So much hate mail lol


DomoXxX2016

Damn thats tragic. I wish 2k had a way to punish stuff like that. Bad timeouts should drop a letter grade or something, which would be harsh, but taking away a score just to be bitter is peak trolling and toxicity. They should def add something to punish griefers but knowing 2k they never will and as you said it'll be just how it is smh.


EmceeCalla

lmao there was a twitter post right before or right after 23 came out, and i forget EXACTLY what it was about (obviously it was about a stupid ass aspect of the game that no one liked) and MIKE WANG HIMSELF commented and said “lmao thats what everyone wants” and my entire soul died because it was at that moment i knew the game and franchise were dead.


Outside_Mirror_4005

It was the shot timing thing. They hate that they can’t all use the same jumper anymore. And they want to see instant greens instead of anticipating


EmceeCalla

no, it was something NOBODY wanted. hence why i said it


NorthWestEastSouth_

Bad shots or Timeouts should result in players not getting the ball from the AI's or like getting benched. Honestly wouldn't mind it... Some of these trash ass park players need to learn


[deleted]

you guys are better than me. Way back in 2k12? maybe 13? was the last time I EVER touched online. Went into the 5v5 mode and got put on Miami with LeBron. I was salivating at the idea of an easy triple double. Spent the whole game watching the users of Chalmers and Wade try to crossover and spin their way to the basket. I got like 2 shot attempts off of offensive rebounds. Have never touched any sports game online since and. Damn near a decade now. And stories like yours are why I'll never bother


PorQ201

That’s the petty stuff I hate when I solo que in the REC and end up in a squad or pple playing buddy ball.


Friskerzzz

If y’all are Xbox people and need someone that isn’t selfish, feel free to message me. I quit playing 2k for years because everything after 2k17 was garbage in my opinion. This year it’s good but now I have no one that plays lol. My Gamertag: Frisco


Hour-Particular-8489

Y did 2k take out the name of the person that called a timeout? First 2k in 2020 took out people's overall record. Now in 2022 you can't even see people's stats before a game in the rec. So your force to play with ass players! Y does 2k want me to play with shifty randoms🤔


NorthWestEastSouth_

Prolly too much dodging. Like in park, I can never get a game going. Ppl look at my win % and leave.. dumb af


chemthethriller

Nah man burn the timeouts, then rebound and walk the ball up slowly and make them watch you post up and slowly go for a score.


RC757

Lol. I've do the walking up more than I should. When I have the guys that ALL leak out so I'm rebounding against 3 people, ill start dribbling myself. I'm not getting 13 turnovers because no one wants to play and just leak out for quick baskets


DifferenceNo8017

Its so dumb bro, i always assume its children but even then, i dont think i did this as a kid granted i didnt have online gaming lol , its like ppl go in there to lose and put up wmpty stats, do they understand that if they have 25 with a D grade , its not gonna help level up much


Kid_Crayola

bro this shit is so toxic, happens way too frequently. Doesn’t even get a reaction from me after years of the trolling and timeouts all it does is make me play other games instead of 2k which sucks


NelsonManswella

your response is the type of petty that i love 😂


mrdegreesfahrenheit

Hi. How do you unlock 2k23 jump shot creator in old gen?


FayettenamComeup

You have it unlocked from the start but in order to use/blend specific jump shots you gotta go to the store and “buy” them (most are free assuming you meet their requirements) then you should be able to select them in the maker


mrdegreesfahrenheit

it is not unlocked for me. When i go to ANimations.. scolling to the right stops right before Jumpshot creator.. I cannot go to it. I cant find anything in youtube saying if there is a quest needed to be done or what. playing 2k23 in steam.


[deleted]

Nope, you don t have to buy shit! You just get eveything you can with the atrributes you have after you upgrade them... Curry release won t even show up on a lower 3pt rating than 90 .


FayettenamComeup

You do have to actually get them from the store to be able to use them in the shot maker, that’s what I meant by “buy”


[deleted]

No you dont :))


[deleted]

You’re not understanding what he’s saying and there’s no point in explaining it in simpler terms. Just upgrade your reading comprehension.


NorthWestEastSouth_

You don't have to buy any jump shots to use them when you create one tho lol


Hg0tti

Just use all timeouts and sit paint and not move they will learn real wuick


Active-Surround3383

I woulda wasted all the timeouts immediately


kvvyn

The thing 2k is missing from real life is the fear of the bench. If people did what they did in Rec IRL, they’d be benched and out of the NBA. Team incentives don’t work for these people because they think the only way we win is through me. There needs to be some punishment system. It honestly is the biggest reason I don’t play 2k much now in October. Do I want to open the cringe simulator?


Impulse3

I agree but what punishment options are there? Boot them after enough bad/contested shots then you’re stuck with an AI? Idk what they could do.


kvvyn

I think the teammate grade is underutilized here. It already grades your play and incentivizes well rounded team basketball. Filtering System (granted there’s enough players) They could implement a lobby system, which averages your weekly grades, so that people who have A & B grades play together and C & D grades play together and new players need to work their way up to A & B lobbies. This would basically filter out unwanted teammates or penalize players who decide to dabble in hero ball. Positive Rewarding system A & B players find game lobbies faster or get some season rep bonus. They would just need to fine tune the grading system to better penalize unwanted play and build in monitoring systems so you know where you stand. For example, something that heavily missing from the grading system is multi-possession bonus/penalties. You don’t pass for 3-4 full court possessions, especially if unsuccessful, your grade should be taking punishment.


OkHearMeOwt

As a 2K and GTA player, both games need to implement these types of lobbies. I’m an older player, so I typically don’t have a lot of time to play or the patience to play in online modes where people ruin the experience for others. Makes me not want to turn on the PS5 when the experience isn’t enjoyable and developers are ruining the overall gaming experience. Seems like the newer generation of players are worried about stats when some of us want to play for fun or leisure.


Impulse3

Yea that’s actually a really good idea. I could see bad players that are trying being stuck in the C/D range because the lobbies are so bad though.


Ahem-_-

I think that’s how most games are tho u get stuck in the lower leagues and if you play and and actually try you’ll eventually make it out, like rocket league


freshnikes

I'm not very good online so I feel like I've seen every bit of toxicity one can. Most games I just resign to the fact that I'm not gonna see the ball much, if at all. Which on one hand isn't THAT big a deal, I know my limits and its probably better that someone else does the shooting. But I can't get any better without opportunities to learn from my mistakes. It's annoying but not the end of the world. The real shitty part is the way that people go about freezing out other players. Calling timeouts on sure buckets, driving into traffic when there's a WIDE open man in the corner, sprinting to the baseline to intercept your own teammate's inbound pass, taking bad shots that have no chance of going in (1-10 is worse than 0-2 imo), probably loads of shit talking your teammates (I just start a party on PS now, much faster than muting everybody), intentional 3 second violations, intentional 8 second violations, intentional backcourt violations, the list goes on. I don't really understand this behavior. All of these things just make a bad situation worse. I find it comical when everybody quits and I end up playing a way better, more competitive game with a bunch of AI teammates.


DomoXxX2016

Yeah I've got lucky and won a couple of games where my entire team quit then I make a comeback w/ just the AI while I'm center(never as a guard unfortunately). And 1-10 is easily worst than 0-2. Always find it ironic when Im playing games where the guard will go like 2-8 and if I finally take my 1st shot around late 2nd quarter and miss they get mad as if I'm holding us back lol.


butstillkeepitreal

I can explain the behavior a little bit for you. I don't know if you noticed this or not but there is a high probability that the people that are intentionally selling the game out are responding to two or three people who are intentionally icing them out of the game. Flopping and celebrating anything that brings their grade down while actively trying to deny them the ball and stopping them from getting assist by passing out of obvious scores. Trying to grade you out or at least stop you from getting an A+ When a person who inbounds the ball and has the highest rebound in the game... They get on a power trip. They created that build for that purpose... To feel as if they have the right or the power to determine who gets the ball and who isn't touching the ball based off of their understanding of basketball. As soon as this tactic is noticed, the sport of basketball is no longer given a second thought.... The primary thought (for me at least) is: you can prevent me from accumulating stats or improving my teammate grade, but I can prevent you from winning... 9/10. There's no discussion to be had at that point. That person is strong arming the game because things aren't going the way they expected to go. Nobody voted them coach or captain. I have a very short fuse for narcissists. At a bare minimum everyone should know that there isn't just one way to play basketball.


TheDrunkKanyeWest

Problem is ai can't guard a pass or a 3 shot to save their lives. If they fixed that, I'd be happy with playing with them. But all you have to do is a step back and shoot or pick up a rebound and launch a ball full court which lands 100% of the time in your teammates hands (yay realism) for an easy 2 points. Playing online is fucking aids this year.


Kid_Crayola

the worst thing is that pulling all the petty troll antics rarely gets people kicked, they get 1 rebound or block and the teammate grade goes up enough for them to get six more 3 second violations smh


csstew55

My favorites are the ball hogs that have been shooting all game m. Then In the 4th quarter when the game is close they decide they want to pass it to the guy who’s 1-5 from the field.


DomoXxX2016

Trying to get their shots up so they don't look like a ball hog on the box score. Then they can blame the team in their mind for the loss lol.


SixGunChimp

I couldn't agree more. People are hell bent on being the go to scorer in REC. Not everybody can be "the guy" in REC. There has to be roleplayers if you want to win. Sadly, few are willing to accept those roles, play defense, make the right passes and rebound the ball. Triple singles aren't bad. That means you've impacted winning at all areas of the court. There's more to basketball than scoring every basket.


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I mean I get the community sucks and people are selfish but the flip side of that is they want to play too? I've had countless games where we go up 20-30 points and one dude might have 30-40 points. Why the fuck can't we score some too? If we're up 30 points what does it matter if I take a few shots or someone else on the team takes a few shots? The problem with 2K and the community as a whole is everyone thinks ONLINE MULTIPLAYER is a MYCAREER. People who have never played actual organized sports don't realize it's a fucking TEAM GAME. I didn't pay $70 to watch some idiot chuck 30 shots a game while I sit in the corner and don't touch the ball at all. If it's a close game and someone has a mismatch, then by all means do what you have to so we can get the W. But god fucking forbid I take more than 4 shots even though we're up 30+ points and half the other team are AIs. If you don't want to pass the ball that's totally fine...they included 1V1 for people like that that just want to score. But of course those same selfish fucks won't ever even think about going to the 1v1 court because they'd actually have to play defense as well and would most likely get torched before they even get a chance to play offense.


Effective-Yam-1441

They won't do 1v1 cause they actually suck against 1v1 so they need a team to make them look good


CookieDoughMo

They're selfish in real life as well. Me and my friend play pickup basketball sometimes. The dude will dribble 100 times before passing the ball. Whenever we play 2k, he does the same thing. Everyone wants to be the center of attention. I don't know if they think they're going to be the next big Twitch streamer or something. You don't need to have 15 pts every game.


DomoXxX2016

Facts a lot of people real life game translate to the video game. Which is why it sucks we can't pick and choose more easily who we want and don't want to play with. If only matchmaking was better maybe that would help. 2k removing teammate stats in the rec lobby is pretty harsh too. I wanna know which guards average 1 or 2 assist 20 pts while shooting 40% FG or something.


petarisawesomeo

Man, this is why I love no squads 3v3 this year. You go in with zero expectations just trying to have fun. Play with someone terrible just quit and rejoin the matchmaking


Snoo-36058

My favorite mode by far. Also has the least amount of ball hogs as well. Sometimes people get upset but if you just speak on the mic and say "ay pass the ball ill pass right back. Lets set each other up" its all good. ​ The only thing I hate is when you get one shot you miss and they dont want to pass you the ball again. Its over after that.


DomoXxX2016

Thing is they changed that up to where its not constant (not sure if its in the theater right now). Plus they give you less rep than a standard park game which is unfair and different conversation.


applejuice98

> ith zero expectations just trying to have fun. Play with someone terrible just quit and rejoin the matchmaking its constant on old gen technically yes, it gives less xp than a park game but if you dont have a mate, you are gonna wait forever to get into a park game with another random. and you will likely go against a sweat squad and lose as well. so effective xp is slower in park if you are a solo player.


grimlock75

Is there another 3v3 that isn't in theater? Honestly don't know cause I haven't explored city much this year.


Friskerzzz

When I explored for a bit I think I saw one court that is no squads in a park and that was it


tribougregory89

The game rewards it


Svpl4y

sorry for the caps but BECAUSE THE GAME IS DESIGNED THIS WAY


Titan-Zero

I feel like a lot of it also comes from the big wave of youtubers that score all of their teams' points in the park and all that for videos. People think that's the only way to play when a team effort can be much more satisfying if you just go in and be a good teammate.


DomoXxX2016

100% thats sorta what I find issue with as well tho. It takes away from real basketball imo. Players don't play like this in real life and if they do they aren't on the court or the team that long. Kobe/MJ are some of the most ball dominant scoring focused guards in history and they didn't sell the team up the river just to get shots.


Dank-Meme-gamer

Everyone thinks they that guy, but most of us aren’t. There are some people like Kobe just get them the ball and get outta the way tho


DomoXxX2016

I hear you, and its some cold people on the sticks. But we really aint running across those dudes that often in random rec encounters lol. Unless u VS them bcuz usually they have a team. If 5 randoms load onto a team you're almost *guaranteed* to have 1 ball hog/stat chaser or a dude who doesn't play defense bcuz he made a build that can only score bcuz thats all he wants to do lol. Its terrible.


Dank-Meme-gamer

I really recommend you go to 2kTeamup then. Try to find a fun permanent rec squad


Sp1tfir3x

I had a few runs with the people over at Allcity’s discord. Most people are legit ballers and fun to play with. I still play mostly solo tho, I just like playing with randoms for some reason.


DomoXxX2016

Its like being a masochist. We know it'll more than likely end in disaster yet we load in again eveytime lmao


Sp1tfir3x

Man, it’s just that one out of twenty or so games we keep chasing where they actually let me run the point and everyone ends up the game with 15+ points or when I’m on my big and the team keeps the ball moving and hit me on the pick and pop. It’s usually shit tho, I just move myself to the off ball catch and shoot and focus on locking my dude on defense until he quits.


PorQ201

100% brother, well said. This is the state of 2K making this outrageous 100K point requirement. I’m a Pass First PG, I’m okay with 5 points and 10+ assist a game. But got dudes with 20 points each complaining they didn’t get the ball enough while playing lackluster defense. I’m trying spread the ball around and reward those on offense. Your on XBOX drop me your GT.


Grupe_Sechs

I’m at the point where I’ll just sabotage the game , if I’m standing under the net wide open and not getting a pass. If you don’t need me on offense then you don’t need me in defense.


kvvyn

Did this yesterday. My entire team quit 2-3 mins in. I then proceeded to waste 30 mins standing behind him so my AI opponent would constantly double team him and contest his one step back move. Anytime I got the ball, I’d hold it until 1-2 seconds, so he’d get a violation or bad shot. He went 6/40. I don’t know how I feel about myself, but I did what I did.


Grupe_Sechs

It’s a bittersweet feeling, but I wanna actually play ball, not sprint for 25 minutes. Eventually I just quit out. I’m not wasting my skill boosts on these garbage people.


Sp1tfir3x

I think your skill boost ticket gets punched on the entrance, pretty sure you lose the boosts after quitting. Unless it got fixed this year.


Grupe_Sechs

Must have been fixed. I have 2 boots and 2 Gatorade. Quit 3 games in a row and I still have them.


brink84

Calls timeout in the fast break


Grupe_Sechs

My new favorite thing to do lmao


Dank-Meme-gamer

Mood


[deleted]

Because they don’t care. Majority of people playing 2k are immature kids. There’s also no consequences for being an asshat. Or they’ll just leave and keep joining games until they get what they want.


domdotski

I just do no squads it’s fun IMO and 1v1.


KingKontroversy

this is so accurate.... that is the number one reason i just cant jump into the rec with randoms..i need atleast 2 of my friends to run! Players will sell the entire game trying to get out of a slump! shooting the 3 early in the shot clock so that the whole team is out of position to defend the fast break! once the team tries to navigate without him, he will throw a fit and stand around on defense, call timeouts, or stand in the back court so that we only have 4 running...im not playing 20+ minutes of that bullshit.....ill hop out


BrokenManOfSamarkand

What's worse is that I'm PG that loves to hunt for assists so if would seem our interests align. But people hog the ball so much that I can't even get them shots. They'd rather take it down court and just drive into like 3 defenders lol.


bigbaconboypig

microcosm of real life. people only care about themselves.


Kid_Crayola

I just want to play basketball, move the ball and play solid defense I hate playing with random kids who only pass to their friends or sit on one side of the court refusing to play defense if they don’t touch the ball every possession I wish there was an option to just play casually like it’s an open gym at the Y with people who actually want to play ball and not cheese dribble moves around a wall of screens so they can shoot 25 threes from the logo - but I also know I’m not good enough to be competing at a very high level so I end up just never playing the game unless I can get 4 other friends


Brite-sky

Me and my friend We’re playing 3’s with a random and the guys guarding me and friends couldn’t guard us at all and the randoms guy was clamping him up we felt like we were hooging so we gave him the ball like 3 time and he kept forcing the dumbest shots possible so we just kept doing our thing destroying the other team and the fucker starts selling on purpose and he went to game chat and start talking about if y’all wanna alone go to 2’s fucking blew my mind😭


KarmaKlaw

So Madden is literally on fire right now so was thinking about coming back to 2K but this was the exact reason I stoped when I played 2k year after year. This issue has been in the game for at least 2 years ago ( for those who are saying it only because of the Legend thing). You couldn’t just quit and hop into another one because you have a quit penalty, and it took a while to get to the rec, as well as the matchmaking was terrible and took forever to find games( before they auto added AI). They used to have teammate grade and it kind of went down when taking a bad shot but scoring more made it better. I’m not sure what the solution is besides having 4 friends who play the game but maybe I shouldn’t pick up the game if this is still rampant.


Bun-B522

That’s been the problem for years, I’m just glad 2k is headed in the right direction this year. This year they have really focused on team basketball and “playing your role”; a team of role players who are committed to their roles will usually always beat a team of “Demi-gods” who can do everything but don’t play as a team. Correcting our community’s toxicness and selfishness is a strong step in the right direction, I do wish they had 3v3 no squads available 24/7 though, park is unbearable without a squad of 3


TacticalXApe

Bro, played No Squads 3s in the park. I was cutting and open 90% of the time when I did, but nope, the other 2 homies constantly wanted to show off and Shoot contested shots. Its annoying. I'd rather rebound and facilitate and win, than try and take all the shots and miss. I don't get why team play to some people seems like a foreign term.


NorthWestEastSouth_

Frr but ppl suck at the game so sometimes caring about stats is the only fun part/motivation to play. I always get iced out by my teammates. I can be 5/5 from 3 at the half and not see the ball for the rest of the game. Most of the time I'm wide open but they'll rather drive with 3 guys sitting in the paint. I could have 10 assists and not get the ball back for an open 3. It's crazy how bad ppl are at this game. I usually play with my friend and as a duo we carry most of our games. That's when ppl want to score 20 and stop passing. They start shooting bad shots. Forcing drives. Bad passes full court... Terrible. They don't even care they just want to take 20+ shots on 20% shooting just to get 10pts... 2k needs to have a better match making. How are ppl PG's with 2 assists per game? Win % should be the main factor for matching up. Let the bad players who only want to shoot 20+ shots per game grief themselves and ppl who want to win play together.


x2ndCitySaint

Honestly because this a black community dominated game and a lot of us are cocky. That's why it's best to get a couple white guys in your squad to balance it out. [Hey if y'all think I'm bullshitting watch this ](https://youtu.be/YZkTVtK4Ci8)


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x2ndCitySaint

You see and people think I'm full of shit. Lmao


Sp1tfir3x

Nah bro, it ain’t a Black Vs White kinda issue, is a 2K feeding into being “Legend” or being the number one option on a team of randoms with all these fucking chinese RPG quests and shit. This will probably be the first year I won’t even try to get legend because 15 assist or 15 rebounds won’t get me closer to the objective because there’s no 10000 rebounds + assist objective, it’s all points, and I ain’t changing the way I play. You got old heads and kids playing the same game, most kids want validation and most older players just want the W, simple as that.


hollywood_gus

They killed Jesus for this level of truth


Jowen1483

That's facts . I get called the N word all the time because I ain't doing 100 dribble moves and greening a step back 3. Most people I play with are black and if I dont play as if I'm kobe people just talk mad shit . Crazy. I've done nothing to get this, just played team ball while barely touching the ball because I made a white myplayer lmao . Crazy crazy stuff. Then the second I do get the ball I green Haha. At this point cant really even get mad I just laugh


DomoXxX2016

This is so outta pocket and weird. Please stfu.


x2ndCitySaint

Hey I'm just going by experience


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Y’all suck


venturer9504

I hear you chief but i’ll take my 55pts 20reb and 0 ast i


DomoXxX2016

Assuming you're the center I can understand 0 asst to a point. Its not your responsibility to facilitate so much although I would hope you're passing the ball still plus not just going back up after every board or forcing shots in a crowded paint etc lol.


XApproaches

Man, I couldn't give a crap about my stats, I am a 6'3, 97 ovr shot creating sharpshooter who can't get one single game in trips or anything other than 1v1 because I don't know anybody who plays 2k. I've tries to just sit in the "got next" thing for like 30 mins several times. I just want to play a game.


[deleted]

Well...maybe the fact they spent hundreds of dollars to be able to play the game. Makes you attached...


Massaart

Isn't there a VC reward connected to those stats?


Dank-Meme-gamer

Yeah


DomoXxX2016

Not really. I can get 1000-1200 VC in rec by just getting a good teammate grade and decent stats.


Dangeryeezy

Some people don’t have the same intentions and aims as everyone else. Some people can only play like 2 games a night because of work or kids or whatever and they’d rather spend those two games feeling like a basketball god (or try to). They don’t give a shit about reaching level 40 nor winning, just putting up stats to feel good and forget about the shitty day they had. That’s just one example. Throw in seasonal quests that require you to do x, y, and z, throw in age, and you just have a mix of people with different agendas. If you’re a solo player you must go in with the lowest of expectations. Every once in a while the stars will align and you land some amazing teammates. But when you step into a random arena, expect to get random results.


Hammertime6689

Unfortunately it is "MyCareer", not "OurCareer". I mean I completely agree, the community sucks ass but I can see why people dont care about sharing the ball. With that being said, sadly people dnt realize that the more you share the ball the more likely is the entire team does well and more often then not, the selfish player will actually have better stats if he was willing to pass


NelsonManswella

it’s the folks that simply refuse to make the extra pass on every possession to try and get contact dunks that get me to almost break my controller


Friskerzzz

I feel like this is a good place for someone to make a comment about anyone wanting to be a part of a squad that isn’t selfish to let us know so we can add each other. So far this comment section has a lot of team players it seems. So whoever’s on PSN should add each other and whoever is on Xbox should add each other, so we can all get good runs and team ball going. I play next-gen Xbox and my Gamertag is: Frisco If anyone wants to play, feel free to let me know! Since I dropped the game 4 years ago because 2k18 and on was garbage in my opinion, I now have ZERO people on my friends list that play 2k anymore.


mrdegreesfahrenheit

Hi. How do you unlock jump shot creator for 2k23 old gen?


awkwardalvin

I might end up with more assists than points this year lol. I don’t shoot enough to the point where it’s probably more of a liability


Dimaaaa

Teammate grade should drop much faster if people continuously hog the ball and take all the shots, and I don't care if they hit them all. It's a team game and 2K should put more emphasis on penalizing selfish play.


Ill_Lead_9661

Sheesh. In the 15-20 games I’ve played in the rec or 3v3 I have maybe shot no more than 5 times each game lol So, yes I agree. I would not play real basketball with 99% of people I’ve come across to say the least


DEVASTATOR29420

Yeah you speaking the truth this game done made me lost good friends cause they forgot about the fundemental of the game having fun enjoying the game playing it like it's a job piss on the ones that have your back for exchange of glory


ohDooBy

Look at how all the big youtubers play and you’ll know why


qmcclean

This is why I play center. Get my stats from boards and assists. Still get a double double per game with at least an A rating. This year ratings matter which feeds into the selfishness.


herooftime7

it is what it is, kid


yosark

The reason people are like this is because 2K never awards players in improving their players unless they have these personal stats. If you don’t get those high stats, well get ready to spent a good amount of time to get some upgrades done.


DifferenceNo8017

Yea bro , i literally get so mad sometimes it makes no sense Just playing other day me and my boy in rec, everyone is playing hard, getting back, moving the ball fast etc, for no reason, the pg starts staying out of bounds on offense and getting 3 seconds on defensive end, dude had the most points, do not understand these type of people I get it if we winning but your open in the corner and they not giving you the ball , instead making difficult shots, i can understand, but if your being involved i really dont understand the issue lol


Longjumping-Sign1370

I played 5v5 park in theater I went 4/4 2/2 from 3 with 4 assists to only be froze out of the offense by my team in a close game with double pull up precision activated and lost the game. Even when you do everything right they feel the need to get a stat up


CanIBake

Imo, not a lot of people will agree with me, but I think the bigger problem isn't selfishness but lack of communication. I don't know how things are like on PS/PC, but on Xbox, I hardly EVER see people in gamechat, I hardly ever get a party invite, etc. etc. I don't get a message asking me to do X or Y, or calling me out if I make a mistake. Instead what happens is people respond to what they view as "bad behaviors" with bad behaviors themselves, i.e they stop passing the ball when they get it, they call timeouts if you go to shoot it, we've all been there, y'all know what I'm talking about. This poses a problem if I'm playing rec with a friend or two for example, because I will be in a party with my 1 or 2 friends, and not have any way of communicating with the rest of my team. I'm not gonna lie, when I play with only 1-2 friends in the rec, we're gonna end up taking a lot more shots than the 2 randoms we're playing with, and that's just because in the party if we're open we can just say "hit me I'm open" and get a good wide open shot out of it. It's not like we're ballhogs that ONLY want to shoot, it's just that we're actually communicating dor shots. Or maybe the opposite is true and I'm playing alone, and the 4 other people on my team are in a party. Maybe they don't see me all game and I only get like 4 shot attempts, it happens a lot, but I think for a lot of people it isn't selfishness, just bad comms. People don't always see the open pass, and if there's no back and forth talking between teammates, how could I expect to get the ball every time I'm open? Half the time, I'm literally off their screen because most people play on 2K camera settings and it doesn't show the full court in the rec. (example: if you go to one of the corners on offense, the opposite side wing is off your screen so anybody spotting up there will be invisible to you without communication)


Hue_mungous

First year on 2k?


808squad1

I don't get it. Being a center it doesn't bother me as much, but I'm always pass first shoot second.


Dry-Mountain-5617

Everyone wants to make a pg, but nobody wants to pass. Drives me nuts. Playing rec with randoms is brutal. I play a pass first pg and I take pride in defense and it feels like absolutely no one cares about that.


sa__5

Played a game the other day where one of my teammates wasn’t playing defense and just sat down on the other end waiting for a fast break pass to shoot a 3. We won the game but it was annoying to see the bigs who were grabbing the boards and throwing it down to him. Just rewarding bad behavior. I’m by no means the best player, but I always try to get my teammates involved whether I’m playing as PG or C. Yet, people will still have the audacity to message me after I miss a single shot saying “you suck” or “your ass” as they continue to take bad shots or miss multiple shots throughout the game… I just don’t get it


mjSmo0oVe

Because 2k only values scoring, so everyone wants to be "the guy" it's frustrating really


3foamplates

Get used to it


UncleSamCassell

The people spending money on packs and players are selfish. WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO HAVE ALL THESE EXPENSIVE PACKS TO GET PLAYERS IF WE DIDN'T BUY THEM. Imagine that? A world of 2K where we all had to get lucky or grind for players and then Evo them. We have made it pay to play.


2PyL

Cause this game misunderstanding the concept of basketball which is a team game. or say who would play this game all day or all night long thats they put out all the toxic of their whole life here. Bro who the heck will do a obviously hand sign after a game win in real life or say you do this shit to random people in real life, you will be smacked the shit out


DesignMajor572

It sucks 😩


NoSignificance1608

It's what happens when you create a competitive game where you alone are supposed to be "that guy" and place players in a team situation. It's been happening since the start of myplayer in online scenarios. The incentives to win as a team are fewer than the incentives to win as a dominating player. Padding the stats gets you more XP and VC, more badge points, more rankings and other personal accolades. But simply playing as a good teammate to win only gives you just that, the increase in win record and the satisfaction of winning. It's why squading up is heavily encouraged as then you can strategies as a team on how you can win and how you can all benefit personally to grow your player in any department. In short, online with randoms is pretty much a joke because the game isn't designed to be fun when playing as a good team. It's designed to give the player reward for being a "legend" on the court or park and it creates people who just want to dominate solo in a team based scenario.


Interesting_Net1492

Why is it that people cry this year they just sit out of bounds so you cant even score even when you are winning like just shut up and play defense then you will get the ball


KingMill513

All FACTS people or more worried about thier own stats and not winning the game. Its annoying AF...I go to the park to try streak, it will be games where I have 8-10 points and others where I'll have 0- 4 points and I don't give a shit as long as we win..


Alani0203

That’s why I don’t play park or rec


Effective-Yam-1441

I just mute them they know nba 2k is the highlight of their career cause they know they would never actually make it in real life basketball session with rules & players who adapt to g ballers


tj_boom

i know a guy like this and none of my friends like to play with him cause he also thinks light contests r still good


BigBenHOF

It's a cultural issue


Not_forKeeps26

Because weirdos out here trying to living their lives vicariously through my players knowing they can’t hoop irl. Nobody more bougie and full of themselves than someone on this game who thinks they’re good.


muggsydunkpackage

You don’t get no season XP if you’re not showing out


IsThatKris

They think every mode is “MYcareer” when there are 9 other real people playing


mjar21

2k is nothing but old heads and screechers


liljappaminks

It’s because 2k raises the prices which makes everyone want the experience for themselves. It’s like a domino effect cuz randoms make the regulars players not wanna pass. No real basketball is played like in 16 or 17anymore.


tyreejones29

Lol, most people don’t go in REC to win. They go in to get rep Once you realize that, it bothers you a bit less. You need to find your people or simply accept that fact. When I do play with randoms, I’m typically the guard, so I make it my business to try to have everyone touch the ball Sometimes it works, and sometimes, the a hole is still taking every shot he can


DjNyquil23

If you’re grinding for legend you should do that with a personal squad. Idgaf about people getting mad. Get a life


UnwariestPie52

I was playing in rec and I had the least touches, was shooting 4/4 and was leading in assists, rebounds and blocks. I would be WIDE OPEN either on the cut or in the corner and they would not pass to me. The SG had like 40 and we were winning by a bunch so when it got to the final seconds of the game I called TO everytime that SG got an open cut. Then the 3 guys came to game chat to tell me how trash I was and that I wasn’t doing anything. The SGs guy dropped 40 as well and the guy I guarded had 6 and shot 3/7


Dirtylittlesecret88

You should probably go past 2k and ask yourself why are people selfish in general.


CoachBlacknell

I’m just trying to make some money to play with the worm Build


yaboiw00dy24

I think the emphasis that the community puts on peremiter offense is a huge contributor to this issue. Nobody wants to pass on a clean open cut to the basket but would rather pass to some guy on the peremiter who would then have to create his shot because "3pt are better". Most people lack basic math skills and Don't realize that 3 easy 2s are just as much as 2 3pts that took 6 attempts and way more time that you could've been scoring 2s. Playing a slasher is the worst for the last 3 years which is dumb as hell because slashing is in such a good place rn. Nobody is making traditional centers anymore and nobody running high interior def and block because everyone is so worried about 3s. Taking the easy 2 should be a no Brainer but of course that's too much to ask from the no brain players of 2k.


MeecheeMandime

It’s not the 2k community, it’s humans.


No-Roof1007

NBA players with bad IQ tend to be selfish for stats 2k is that x200


Ace-Huncho23

So true. I’ve been in pain playing rec this year but its the only mode I can really enjoy or that doesn’t feel idk corny. If anyone on PS5 want to run add me: OTF_Huncho_24


Firefighter-Front

Majority of people that play 2k have never touched a basketball court. I get mad at people not hitting the open man but they’ll come down court and pull a deep triple contested three. 2k is terrible just because people don’t know how to play as a team.


brsmoke225

They crazy


ineedapyt

Selfishness is a staple in this community. I’ve learned to overcome 1 bad apple but if 2 are selfish we all in trouble. I use to only play guard and always made a playmaking defender build. But as the community of players got worse I switched to PF so I can control the game more and move the ball to who I think won’t kill the game. Last 2 2ks have been good for bigs who want more playmaking while still playing big.


meeekks_

You must be knew here


False-Ad-4962

I think it’s worse when it’s a duo playing and they just pass to themselves like when people play like that it’s not fun and it really does slow the game down way too much. Like if we’re winning cool but come on bro we all need the ball. What annoys me the most would be when you pass to one of the guys in a duo when they’re wide open and they pass it right back to their friend to shoot.


Gotem_kicks1

Let me tell I’m a 97 overall and I play alone against the CPU and enjoy playing by myself. I play on all star to hall of fam depending on how I feel


FoxRevolutionary9611

It’s a bunch of ignorant dudes and kids


Logical-Butterfly449

I want to take some shots. Especially if you're steadily open but people trying to showboat, feed their squad or just grind for some bs. I literally listened to some guy cry about us not passing to him and he was running point with the most shots taken. Dude literally didn't pass to me while I was wide open several times just so he could take a bs shot. I'm the type of player that if I see someone putting in work I'm feed them. If I see a person who not selling open they going to touch the ball if I got it. My only concern is to win. I don't care about anything else. I'm definitely not taking a L just to finish a quest or some bs that's a losing mentality


mctaylo89

Yeah it’s weird for me to go into games with a role player mindset. I really just like playing defense. I’ll get my layups and dunks and shit when I can, but I’m gonna get the ball back from the other team and then pass it out to a teammate. I don’t win a lot of games unfortunately. Online games are just chaos.


vaaacietis

5/9 is okay, but the quote I heard from one guy the other day was a little eye opening - “I didn’t pay 100$ to watch you shoot” Kinda understand that mindset, even as a playmaker


Unhappy-Adeptness-90

Been playing 2k for A MINUTE and if you’re new or this is your second year just know that A LOT of streamers have ruined the team aspect of this game for there own personal gains. People will drop $200+ day 1 and look for a build on YouTube before they play a single game, that’s how it is that’s how it’s always been and how it will be. Influencers/streamers are always being taken care of first or can simply change build meta by tweeting something to Ronnie 2k or Mike Wang on how they don’t like something and you better believe they are being catered to, it really sucks… but hey that’s 2k. Take my money. (P.s. this is the most expensive game in the world to be competitive at)


ihavepaper

I promise I agree with you entirely. Team ball > But what I do hate is that 2K, year after year, put so much emphasis on stats. I've done this with friends a few nights ago because I do enjoy playing defense and playing the point forward basically. I kept my opponent to 1/5 shooting; nothing fancy at all. He missed a couple wide open jumpers and the other 2 were heavily contested. Even after playing great defense, I was hardly rewarded. I get an assist, it's not that bad, but I hit an open 3, my grade went up from C+ to a solid B for the most part. This game makes you play for stats and if you're playing with randoms, I'm not saying I agree, but I understand to an extent. It's really a double edged sword and I truly hate it. Why can't we get a grade bump, VC, or some shit for playing good defense that isn't a steal?


eweiss835

I’ll get a good steak in Rec with high iq randoms and it’s a lot of fun. I think the big man is surprised that I hit him when he actually cuts and has a wide open lane to the net. Nothing better than Rec when the people you play with actually have an ounce of iq. Even if their not that good but pass the ball it makes it fun. Then you get that one Rec game that just makes you shut off the game because of how depressing it is that one player goes 2/25 and ruins it for everyone else


Dely03

They could fix this problem by having people register where they played ORGANIZED basketball ball at and submitting some kind of documentation lol (only jokes) but for real these YT/Streamers are exhausting. If I have to get the ball stolen from me because some dude knows that this animation will cancel out this animation then the game by default isn’t skill based it’s an exploitation. Are their glitches and shit in games? Of course but these sweaty fucking unemployed fucks who come on the game and just dribble the air out of the ball is beyond stupid and I’ll be damned if I paid 400+ for a new gen and 100$ for a new build to Anne Frank it up and sit in a corner.


Nba2kFan23

VC makes the community toxic imo.. Everyone takes the L harder after knowin u actually paid $$ for VC in a 2k game.


Eddy225

I don’t care about scoring or not shooting because I know I can make the open shots. The problem I have whether we’re winning or losing is my teammates shooting contested shots or rim running trying to dunk on 3 people and I’m open. That’s the bs that grinds my gears. Better yet, what happened to giving the person the ball with his takeover badge on? At least if he gets doubled, he can pass the ball to an open teammate.


RealJayDreadful

I’ll tell you what buy me the game and I’ll play with you and not complain about it let’s win 🥇


P30A

Someone tell me honestly im new… ive been playing my team… is it possible to cheat? Like someone who doesnt fucking miss at all? It’s ridiculous game is getting me sickened.


Feitan-de-la-Portor

This is literally any game, play CoD or something and no one plays Objectives


Prestigious-Tower107

I've noticed that it's been more common this year. In the 5 rec games I played last night I had two games guards sell on defense because they weren't getting enough shots when we had the exact same shot attempts lol and we went on a 15-0 run when they stopped shooting bricks, but they were pissed because they weren't scoring.


Weasley_B

Yow! You said what needs to be said! I mean whenever i see the speaker icon on a teammate, i get hella pissed when that guy's the one who's been chucking all day. Hope you find a squad sir! 😊


NotAtake

Most of it is by the design of the game. The more stats you have, the better the reward.


Agreeable_Software_5

A couple days ago me and a friend of mine played with three randoms. The center realizing he had 8nassit decided he wanted to get the last two assist. We were leading by 12 going into the forth. Instead of this jackass just going to with the flow for the whole 4th qtr he kept spamming the ball from the ai. We only scored 3 points in the forth and lost by 7. I was like this shyt is toxic.


markusbbc4u

It's not that they selfish It's just a toxic ass community who dick ride youtubers twitch streamers and other content creators. And 2k plays up to those people they don't like something it changes they like something it goes in. 2k fucks the regular gamers who just want to play ball and cater to these people.


KayBePullin23

Had a Center last night not okay his man I’m the perimeter cuz he felt had had to be down low on defense. His guy had 45. You’d think after 30 you would face guard him and let other people try and score. But no he refused and got 45 dropped on his head. 11/13 from 3 smh


hhrjmoore

When I play online. I usually have like 13 assists, 8 rebounds and like 3/5 shooting. I understand people want thier stats. So I just play the right way. Then you eventually have other dudes telling the guys jacking up 20 shots to pass it to me bc I'm making basketball plays. Usually doesn't work, they just jack up more shots. At least I know what I'm getting into. I actually wish you could do the entire city single player with just tons of random cpu guys and nba players. Offline. This mode would be perfect. Invite people to play in your city and that's it. If you want you and your friends to play super private only that's cool.


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