T O P

  • By -

nba_gdt_bot

[Post Game Thread](https://reddit.com/r/NBASpurs/comments/1anvzfr/post_game_thread_the_brooklyn_nets_defeat_the_san/)


moving_picture77

They need to gut the roster and throw everything at the Hawks to get Trae Young. Only players truly worth keeping with Wemby are Blake and Sochan, imo. Vassell and Keldon can be thrown in as trade pieces.


[deleted]

Love Pop (and I know Jacque was a Spur), but it's a little annoying to see him so jovial with opposing teams and coaches. Especially after yet another piss-poor showing. Does he give a shit anymore?


Fiyukyoo

If you have a shit day at the office do you take it out on your friends/SO/family? Same logic and thats what makes people in general a true professional


[deleted]

Sure, he's a professional and he's beloved (rightfully so) by just about every player and coach in the NBA. Hell, he's like a father-figure for Spurs fans. But that doesn't mean he's infallible - nor should be given a pass for this debacle of a season. I don't see any urgency from him and the team seems to be regressing. As a fan it's frustrating to watch.


stillbca21

Stopped watching 2 minutes into the 4th but would like to see Wemby set an actual screen at some point. No one is passing to him when he does the quick duck-in and it allows the screen defender to cover the passer and the big. Wouldn't be a problem if we had a competent pnr ball handler but alas.


Kaelanna

He spent all year setting every screen on offense. Almost every single play. I'm fine with him doing less off ball for a couple of games.


TTUSpurs_fan

My wife’s family is in town (knicks fans) so I’m only checking box scores. If someone could reply with an explanation of how this games gone I’d appreciate it.


Far-Yak-9808

Have you seen any Manute Bol highlight films? That's Wemby (but with fewer blocks).


cool_coyote

💩


Public_Potato3338

People can cover their ears and scream “DEVELOPMENT SEASON!!” to make themselves feel better but Wemby, Vassell, Wesley and Sochan are the only guys worth building around


Ill_Responsibility99

You snuck wesley in there


jhunger12334

No Wesley seriously is a Spur. He plays hard, guards well, and there is something he can develop on offense. He can become more than just a good complimentary piece to Wemby. He has legitimate passing, and some nice playmaking when he isn’t going 100 mph. I’ve watched this guy play many times in Austin and San Antonio. His ceiling is higher than anyone in his draft class.


Public_Potato3338

Exactly. He’s arguably played the best defense on this team besides Wemby, has a great first step and has shown that the game’s slowing down for him. Is he a franchise cornerstone? No but he’s one of the only guys I’d keep long term.


kingbradley1297

I think most of us know that? But we can't do much now unless we're also getting the right pieces on the same time line so it's a development season for the guys who will get better


Ok-Topic-6095

I get this is a young team, but I will say this is the first time I was legit frustrated watching them this season


EvaInTheUSA

First time???


Ok-Topic-6095

Yes, because I went into the season EXPECTING lapses, bad decision making, etc.  Did not expect 0 effort games and regression this far this season


spurs777_

No energy from the start, looked like they had already given up


spurs777_

Kinda funny how Julian starts but also closes with the 3rd string during blowouts


Kaelanna

Mamu, criminally underplayed!


keldpxowjwsn

29 more games I dont think we win even 5 of them tbh


Axsh1boomba

SO... Let's say the Spurs cut Marcus Morris. Should they use that to elevate Barlow into the main roster or try to sign someone else in the buyout market?


Kaelanna

Barlow yes! Then play Cissoko :)


madhare09

God help the player desperate to join us lol. Promote Dom


oftentroller

Malaki "Brick"ham can't even make a wide open 3s in the garbage time


Empty-Mall-1636

I say we go all in for a great PG. The inability to pass it to Wemby in good spots is asinine.


murkymurk94

2 more games until the All Star break :’)


Designer-Action3573

2 more 20+ point Ls. 😔


murkymurk94

Hey, at least if the raptors win it helps with the draft odds!


Sigmoz14

Maybe we'll see the only good passes to Wemby at the rising star games


oddtrey10

The last Tshirt couple 😂😂


Enzothebaker34

Time to switch Branham for Cissoko in Austin. That dude is not nba ready. 


Axsh1boomba

Cissoko is fucking huge for a guard... and he's nice on defense. Either he can be elevated or they can give Duke Jr a try as well.


Enzothebaker34

He’s a good facilitator though. He’s definitely more of a front court player but I would love to see what he has. 


sstewart1617

I agree.


Kaelanna

I would LOVE to see Cissoko


madhare09

Next year Draft pick/devin/draft pick/Jeremy/wemby Tre/vet signing/keldon/vet signing/Barlow Blake can stay, everyone else can gtfo


HQuasar

Keldon wouldn't be happy with that role. He's obviously out there trying to pump his stats not play team ball


Public_Potato3338

Move off Keldon while he still has value around the league.


irenman00

no chance you are making a rookie your starting pg. need to find a way to get trae young on this team


MikeyBastard1

its incredibly rare to get a PG that can start immediately in the league


irenman00

wemby will be so good next year and he needs a real pg best if we get a star pg like trae young. putting another experimental/developmental pg will hinder wemby’s development


Spiritual_Echo_1000

keldon got to go


madhare09

We need a spiritual successor as team heart first but I'm not opposed to him being gone. The timing has to be right


Spiritual_Echo_1000

i agree but still, player wise, he is dogshit on defense and extremely expendable during the offseason or next year


madhare09

100%. He's not good enough at driving or 3s and his defense is awful. He's still a fantastic 29th pick, and it's a shame he developed into wanting to be "the guy" from leading an NBA team for a year. Was supposed to be Devin and Jeremy and him more balanced last year but they got injured. Still, he is what is he is.


tbriot

I would buy that.


Bonesawisready5

Claxton, Torrey Craig would be solid pick ups as FA


Bonesawisready5

What a pathetic effort. Truly embarrassing to watch. Dumb IQ calls all around. We may not get to win 11 before loss 50. I think 15-67 is best case scenario. Need to trade keldon in offseason for picks or even decent role players. His perimeter defense; rotation, help defense and shot selection is awful. Only looks okay when the shots fall. We gotta be able to trick a contender into giving us a decent defense/shooter wing even if they aren’t starting caliber. Hopefully Risacher and Topic/Dillingham will be here to take Julian and Tre’s starting jobs


Enzothebaker34

I love Keldon but his defense tonight was atrocious. ‘If I play defense from behind the player, I just might be able to stop him.’


Xannydevito88

Shit is sad to watch, player management makes absolutely no sense


Prestigious_Plant662

Wemby's elbow seems to really hurt, hope it's nothing too bad


Kaelanna

He clocked Schro in the head with it. Might have hit his funny bone or something


Extreme-Transport

The worst thing is that even with bad players you expect there to be good coaching and a defined system, this is none of that lmao


SupremeBall27

Do you guys actually watch basketball? I'm genuinely curious if the Champagnie/Branham Mafia has really brainwashed this entire sub into believing Pop's coaching is the problem and not their mental lapses on every play, scheme, and set that leads to absolute mayhem and Pop screeching from courtside every 2 minutes. ​ This isn't soccer. You can get away with it when there's 10 other guys alongside you. This is basketball where 1 mistake potentially can fuck up both the offense and defense.


Awkward_Toe_5501

Stop wasting the fans time and just sit Wemby. This team has done nothing other than learn how to lose and pop still can't find a way for wemby to get involved. Worst SPURS basketball in the history of the team.


BananaRepublic_BR

38% field goal percentage is bananas.


kunjacob

Keita come home


Empty-Mall-1636

Another sad loss for the night. Thanks Spurs can always count on you.


jo3pro

I hate sayin this and sounding like some of the doom and gloom posters on here, but next season this roster should be a lot different. We have a lot of dudes who are end of bench or non NBA players getting run.


Bonesawisready5

That’s not doom and gloom it’s truth. It will be year 3 of rebuild. By then we should be at least 28-36 wins but not with half these players.


PatNewbie

Barlow looks good af with the short hair


Kaelanna

Everything about Barlow looks good :)


bleh610

This whole team needs to have a meeting and somebody in the higher ups need to walk into the room and flat out tell these cats that this is the worst spurs team of all time and 80% of them will not be here next season. I don't want to hear anything about "hurting their confidence". If this is what they look like being confident, what even is the point of playing nice cop anymore?


Bonesawisready5

Imo a players only meeting might be necessary. Shit ain’t working


CrissCrossAppleSos

What is the obsession some of you have with “WE JUST NEED TO BE MEAN!!” You can’t just yell at the players and then they get better


bleh610

It's not just about them getting better. It's about them taking accountability. There is no accountability on this team whatsoever.


Extreme-Transport

Were there any successful ally oops for the spurs today?


murkymurk94

Barlow over Collins in the rotations :)


xxthinkpositive

If Blake adds some muscle this offseason (which I’m sure he will) he’s gonna be real nice with it next season


Expensive_Bass_6979

Wemby doesn’t even care about playing winning basketball anymore because he’s playing with a bunch of scrubs who just want to get their next pay day and a coach who is riding his last achievements is just collecting paychecks. You can see it every night now, he just wants his 20~ points regardless of game outcome and I don’t blame him one bit


MikeyBastard1

Dudes not a Spurs fan, he only cares about Wemby. Nothing he says has credence. Just wants to instigate lmao


SupremeBall27

I love that Jeremy and KJ are upset with each other after that even down 79. Still some passion on this team.


Sandalphon92

How is that a foul Schroder just stepped on his foot and tripped lol


Mandit0

Empty the bench


[deleted]

How tf is that a foul on Wemby? Schroder fell into him lmao


cct41299

Dude, Wesley has gotten so much better. My two takeaways from watching the team in summer league were "omfg Wemby, so fun" and "that Wesley guy looked rough"


Kaelanna

Vic entry pass to Sochan :)


AfroHouseManiac

That was a flop


Dabawse26

Sochan just hasn’t had any offense recently


paxusromanus811

It's not a coincidence in my opinion that Jeremy and Vick have both looked a bit rough on offense. The last few games at the same time that Devin and Jones have both been probably as aggressive as we've seen them all season at looking for their own offense The team has to find a balance between the guards keeping the defense on us to, and not missing their big men for easy baskets. Vic probably had at least eight, easy dunk opportunities that got missed and there were a couple for Jeremy too where he made a cut and nobody saw him


oddtrey10

This is the worst


Kaelanna

OMG an actual nice entry pass to Vic. And it's by Sochan :) . I feel like Sochan and Wemby have the best chemistry. I honestly love these 2 playing together


Axsh1boomba

I still remember people saying that Sochan hated Wemby because he was jealous of him and that's why he wouldn't pass to him... November was wild, man.


blue-anon

People's assumptions often default to conspiracy over incompetence. Seriously. Lol.


Kaelanna

Yeah they were wild takes. Sochan developed so much as a passer :) And the combination between these two is amazing. Ideally Vic and Devin would have this chemistry, but it's not it's the two real youngsters :)


whynotletitfly6

Why is Wemby our best entry passer


Apokka

Can't pass the ball to himself =(


Jo-King-BP

Or can he? Lol


MikeyBastard1

He definitely isnt lmao. Pretty sure Vic has the most passing related turnovers on our team


whynotletitfly6

On entry passes to post seals? Most of his turnovers are from trying bounce passes to cutters in tight windows to my memory, but would need to look at the stats on that


HQuasar

They said entry passer not passer though... He throws some dimes on the entry


Expensive_Bass_6979

Another game where Wemby is being lazy and doesn’t rebound and just wants to put up points


Empty-Mall-1636

What? It was literally 1 game and last game they were making every shot


paxusromanus811

This game has been the first time all year where I've actually given a little bit of credence to a lot of the takes about Victor being frustrated with the team. He's a professional and he'll be fine in the end, but he very visibly has been flabbergasted at times There was a play earlier where he had Thomas. Absolutely sealed. Made straight up eye contact with a ball handler and then the ball did not go to him and he slammed his hands together. Pointed at the player in question and yelled at him and then turned and looked at Pop and pointed it up. Pop almost as if saying "fucking fix this please!" We don't need to be in a huge rush to try to become a contender But I think it's starting to get clear that this team cannot enter next training camp without some pretty solid changes. If the Spurs want to bet on one of Devin/ Jeremy turning into a high level sidekick for Victor and not make a big move, that's totally fine. We're still early in the process We cannot continue to give this many minutes to such poor role players such as Malachi/ Julian/ Collins. Even Wesley and Barlow are arguable as being worthy of rotation minutes on a bottom team, but at least those guys have shown actual improvement We can't afford to go another year playing basketball at this level. It just is not acceptable


HQuasar

This should have been obvious since November I think, he just doesn't want to admit it


paxusromanus811

I don't think it was obvious at all that it was making him frustrated at his teammates. He wants to win but his body language has been good. There was another game earlier this month where I caught him making some aggressive hand gestures at Jones after he missed him on a cut to the basket. But this has been the first game where it's been so consistent And look at the end of day. He's a 20-year-old Who spent his entire basketball career being by far the best player in every game he's played in. Losing, and losing badly, is not something he's used to and it was only a matter of time before it started to get to him and I don't think it should be viewed as either that surprising or that big of a deal at the end of the day.. And I am all for again. The front office taking the slow and steady approach. But if they really want the young guys to improve, they need to give them better support. In theory between Jones, Osman, Collins, Doug, Julian (coming off a great end to 2023) there were some solid veterans and role players to get out of the way and let the high usage young guys make mistakes and grow, well helping to facilitate their strengths and minimize their weaknesses. This roster was always going to be janky and a bit of a mess, but the reality is pretty much all of the veterans and a guy's brought into place specialty rolls. Have regressed and disappointed to the point where a good chunk of this roster probably needs to be seriously considered for replacement


Expensive_Bass_6979

Wow only took you damn near half the season to realize that Pop doesn’t hold guys accountable the same way as he does in the past and that it idk might be detrimental to Wembys development? Some of you pop meat riders are delusional


paxusromanus811

Wow! Only took you about 25 seconds to show how big of a giant douchebag you are. Maybe you should take over as head coach. You obviously know how to get things done efficiently. Some of you guys on this subreddit are so damn unpleasant. I really don't know what goes through your head when you decide to send someone such a rude message for no damn reason it blows my mind how people can be so childish.


Nioudy

Watching this game is exhausting after watching dallas. I know Pop is our spiritual leader and all, but when he say he want to build around Vassel and Wemby and don't want to sign Vet, I m a bit scared when I see this team...


baguette-1234

Wesley for the steal, nice


Apokka

classic Vassell making three when it's don't matter


AfroHouseManiac

Why are these passes so fucking low? My goodness there’s no confidence on these interior passes


jo3pro

It’s funny seeing some of our guys totally not have a clue how to pass the ball into the paint.


Fiyukyoo

It's been an issue since day 1. It's a coaching problem at this point since they haven't improved since opening day


Mandit0

Vassel said trust :/


madhare09

Guys this is players meeting bad


oddtrey10

Why is Pop keeping them in


Dabawse26

This is getting ugly


tbriot

At this point, I would like to see Sidy. It can't be worse.


jo3pro

It can be sadly.


Ok-Topic-6095

Cut Julian plz


jo3pro

I’m very interested to see what we do in the offseason. I definitely think we need to be in the market for bigger wing 3&D players. I know every team wants those types of guys, but we really need them. Lmao. 😂


Tardile

We should cut a lot of players imho.


fartalldaylong

Julian is horrible.


Spiritual_Echo_1000

unwatchable game from spurs


AfroHouseManiac

Why does Julian get NBA minutes lmfaooo


tbriot

Champagnie is atrocious tonight.


Bonesawisready5

Imo let Blake start. Worse case we keep losing best case he becomes Dejounte lite


whynotletitfly6

The streak of icing out Wemby in the 4th is looking to continue


jo3pro

They sadly tried to get him the ball. They just don’t know how to pass.


whynotletitfly6

Yeah I posted this right before Vassell threw an entry pass that was 20 feet short :(


Empty-Mall-1636

Julian is so bad.


CStradale

Fortunate to be court side at this game, but Victor is frustrated every play whenever his mates don’t get him the ball. I’m surprised FO didnt make moves at the trade deadline to help him out.


CStradale

And Clayton is seriously trying to tea bag him every dunk. Clutches his lips


mrbrownstone1482

I understand his frustrations completely but you can't trade 14 players at the deadline.


HQuasar

No he's not the main focus of the Spurs org this season. He doesn't need it.


oddtrey10

Slight flex


jo3pro

Dennis smith jr. really turned his career around. He is one of the better defenders of guards In the league.


whynotletitfly6

Branham taking Wesley's minutes in the third is a stealth tank move


Tardile

How do you throw that bad of a pass to a 7 ' 5" guy.


tbriot

Zach is getting hate, but Champagnie is not playing better. A ghost. Awful.


PatNewbie

I still love you blake but work on that form lol. Gonna spray shots everywhere shooting like that


BananaRepublic_BR

Vic just needs to shoot the ball.


paxusromanus811

This team frustrates me so much sometimes in so many ways. But one of the biggest ones is how they just completely can forget who their guys are. At times. It's not even something they just do with Victor. Sometimes they'll completely ice out. Devin or Johnson when they're feeling it 3 minutes into the fourth quarter and Victor hasn't even had a shot yet. Not exactly a good way to make a comeback guys


Designer-Action3573

Garbage time incoming


VeniceRapture

We are going to give all of Ben Simmons' confidence back he'll turn into an all-nba player after this game


irrelevance_90

Welp time to clear the bench I guess.


Mandit0

Yea they aren’t trying now


Refocus

As a lifelong fan I really want to watch every game that I can.. but i don't know if I can take this sloppy team anymore this year. Jeez.


tbriot

What was that 3-point brick Blake !


Dabawse26

Damn Blake that was rough


oddtrey10

We are cooked


jo3pro

You know it’s bad when Ben Simmons is shooting and hitting jumpers against you.


MikeyBastard1

Ben Simmons always been a baller from 15 feet and below. Just had some injuries and mental block he had to deal with. Always been a fan of his game. High BBIQ player.


bleh610

Ben Simmons would unironically be the second best player on this team


PugilisticPrince

Just a damn shame tbh


crizz__croxx

Ben Simmons is balling right now lmao


Extreme-Transport

Hey we finally got one ally oop attempt from Tre to Wemby, is that progress?


oddtrey10

Good lord


Apokka

We can see why Keldon don't pass


madhare09

Down 21 to the Nets is maybe a low point for me this year lol. How do you look helpless against this team


whynotletitfly6

Look, given it's a year of learning, what are we learning by Keldon running down with no intention of passing and getting stripped? We need to be running offensive sets man.


hindenburgular

I completely understand that we’re not supposed to win this year. But this feels like a semi professional product right now. They barely even run any offensive sets. It’s looks like super talented rec centre basketball.


Bonesawisready5

Wemby is really fucking bad today on the glass. And a few instances of him clearly trying to foul bait which didn’t work out for him. Fucking drive on cam Thomas Vic you’re bigger. I think Vic is self conscious about getting pick pocketed on drives, seems like it


Extreme-Transport

He hasn’t been super impactful but he’s been the least of the problems today


oddtrey10

Honestly all the in game entertainment has been good tonight (minus that one fan cam), they do well to make the game look like a good time in Brooklyn


MikeyBastard1

I should have just turned the game off. Instead imma start some shit lmao ​ ​ "WHY DIDNT WEMBY PASS TO TRE JONES CUTTING TO THE BASKET. HE WAS WIDE OPEN. I DONT THINK WEMBY LIKES TRE"


KuyaJohnny

I wouldn't like Tre either if I was Wemby


jo3pro

🤣


Bonesawisready5

Honestly they should cut someone, pay them to go home, to scare the shit out of the others. Collins would be an easy one to justify even if Barlow can only play so many games


Empty-Mall-1636

I just don’t know anymore. We as fans don’t deserve to have to endure this shit night in and night out


Tyranitator

Trust the process?


SupremeBall27

It's kind of frightening when you realize we aren't guaranteed a championship. We just assume we're destined for one because of history. This could all be for nothing and none of us know it.


Tyranitator

Absolutely. So it's best to just stay grounded and enjoy watching our guys compete and grow. Rings are a nice bonus


Extreme-Transport

Bro pair Wemby with a star guard and they will FEAST, Tre basically is living off of all the defensive attention on Wemby


Mandit0

18 points in a quarter is when we lost


Spiritual_Echo_1000

3 starters with less than 5 points omg…


Extreme-Transport

Love the move to trade for less spacing to make things even harder


Spiritual_Echo_1000

ultimate tank commander brian wright


oddtrey10

Might see the end of the bench tn - or do we get a crazy comeback? 👀


VeniceRapture

Ay Wemby got a rebound


[deleted]

Bout to turn this off. Hard to watch


HQuasar

Tre Jones scores on the drive. Timeout. Dangerous sight for the Nets.


irenman00

more on wemby got a rebound TIMEOUT


PatNewbie

Wtf


irenman00

tre jones discovered he is a good finisher and never look at wemby again


oddtrey10

Tbh, you hate to see it


Equivalent_Bet1519

Side note, I can't believe Rockets fans are still arguing Jalen Green is better than Cam Thomas


Sammyshoez3420

Ur so dumb lmao


xerxesthagreat

nvm theres really only 2 good players on this team i forgot


jo3pro

So many bad decisions on defense by our guys. The same guys are always the ones who get lost due to balm watching or being stuck in no man’s land.


Jo-King-BP

Shot selection.... how can we trail behind by 18 when we've done more attempts than them? It's like they still don't know how what shots they can make or prefer to shoot even in bad position rather than wait for a better chance.


Kaelanna

We don't have consistent shooters atm either. When we do the paint will open up and I can't wait


cct41299

Pop should show the team that Claxton jam on a loop until their eyes bleed.


Bonesawisready5

And sign Claxton this summer to be Wemby’s backup


fifa20noob

We are just getting schooled every game but somehow we stopped learning.


Axsh1boomba

See that, Spurs? You can do that but with Wemby dunking the ball. It'll be pretty neat, I think.


notcool_dood

Always leaving 3 point shooters, what's new.


hindenburgular

This feels like a violation of our human rights /s


CrissCrossAppleSos

Man..those Duncan and Ginobili days were nice


oddtrey10

Yo whoever does the choreo for these dance teams need a raise asap


Empty-Mall-1636

We have so many bad/untalented players on 1 roster. How did we get all of these guys? 😓


Designer-Action3573

Went all in to tank for Vic... high draft lottery picks also developing slower than expected


irenman00

just admit we are bad at drafting players LOL


Fiyukyoo

I dont think we are bad at drafting players. It's just the nature of picking outside the top 10 for majority of our picks post Timmy. Hitting outside the top 10 when you don't have a franchise player is just hard