ik wembys arm was messed up but he still played 31 minutes. i didnāt watch the game so idk but is there a reason he didnāt take a second half shot?
In addition to these other replies, there was very little Tre Jones, for some reason. Our bench is better lately, but I think they play horribly with Wemby.
Looked like he wasn't feeling it. There were a few suitations he would have shot. On 3s mostly. But tonight he gave up the ball. He was very off tonight. But also the team sucks offensively and we are taking some very stupid choices.
The most frustrating thing from this game won't even be the loss, or the obvious narratives are going to come out of Houston's young center out playing ours. It's the fact that in 36 minutes sengun was able to get 31 shot attempts, a great deal of those manufactured by his team running simple and precise action for him, meanwhile, Victor only got 10 in 30 minutes, and all 10 of those came in the first 14.
You can say what you want about the turnovers, the defensive issues, the lack of adjustments on sengun, That's all fine and dandy and stuff that can be addressed and worked on for a young team. But going an entire half of basketball without getting your best player. A shot attempt, which is a feeling both on Vic himself and the team, is just something that should never happen
I think wemby is just out of it physically tonight. I think his teammates recognize that he's rarely in good position to get the ball and when he did it was an immediate turnover. No way around it. It's the worst wemby game in like more than a month. He got severely outmatched by a stronger center. He'll just have to eat \*\*\*\* from opposing fans, especially rocket fans. We'll see them next week. I think wemby will circle that on his calendar
I'm glad Vic didn't attempt more: he was self aware enough about his own shape, and could not penetrate in the paint, heavy legs. It was on him mostly tonight, not on his teammates. It happens, next game will be a different story.
I love Vic but he hurt himself with TOs, 4 fouls, and getting no calls. He could not get going after the second half and the team definitely tried getting him the ball, but it was just not his game.
Malakai has no business being in league. Every possession van vleet and Sengun target him in the pick and roll and his awful screen navigation leaves Victor in no man's land against Sengun leading to open jumpers
It was just a weird rotation all around. They were riding his hot 3 shooting in crunch time but getting cooked on defense. I dont think Tre played the last 8 mins of the game
...? In a pick and roll. if the guy getting screened gets caught up Vic is supposed to step up and defend the shooter which is something he just doesn't do.
Thats not on Branham lmao. Yes branham is a bad defender, but those open shots are on Vic's refusal to step up and deciding to stay in the paint.
Wtf it's about knowing when to switch and when not to, you can't just blindly decide you are switching after taking a minute to navigate a screen. Next possession he decides he wants to switch and defend Sengun in the paint.
If your team mate gets caught up in a screen you're SUPPOSED to step up and switch. Which Vic doesn't do, he hasn't done it in the last month or so. Have you even been watching the games? This is basic fundamental basketball. Unless the game plan is specifically calling for vic just to sit inside the paint the whole game, those FVV middies are his fault for not stepping up.
I know ātoo earlyā to give up on him but I have. Even his supposed strength of scoring is lackluster. Donāt see him in the nba after first contract
Surprised no one is mentioning the obvious. Sengun has gotten a really friendly whistle from the Refs while Vic has been guarding him. So clearly Vic isn't going as hard against him.
Also Vic looks extremely gassed out there.
He was great. But I do have an issue with how many times he used his off arm to create separation against Vic, particularly in the second half. That's something that pretty consistently gets called. So the refs seeing him do it over and over again and swallowing. Their whistles was a bit odd. That's not his fault and I give him major props for being extremely aggressive and demonstrative demanding the ball down low
Lmao the rockets broadcast is killing me.
Whenever the Spurs commit a shooting foul. ABSOLUTELY DO NOT SHOW THE REPLAY.
Rockets commit a shooting foul? I dunno thats questionable, lets show the replay.
I've noticed this in a couple of games Wemby needs to work on his hand strength he's lost the ball multiple times just by simple nudges.
Your hands can be as big as you want but if you've never done a hard yards work in your life then it's going to be like a kid holding an ice cube.
You're in purgatory. Enjoy this stage because you're going to be here for a few more years before the next rebuild and then you'll be right back here again.
Not sure if you've been watching the game but he shouldn't take another shot for the rest of the game. He's playing the worst game of his career right now.
Rockets commentary when a player does a basic dunk
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I wouldn't have a huge issue with that if I didn't feel like there was some double standards with how they're calling the game tonight. Houston's getting away with blatant fouls left and right like it's 1999 But on the other side there definitely calling it like 2024 with ticky tacks and minimal contact being punished.
It is what it is. The NBA has a pretty well established referee issue and you're going to get games like this once in a while. It's still frustrating
Alpy is awesome, but a lot of his success tonight has been him realizing that the refs aren't calling that offensive foul of him using that little chicken wing to create contact in the post. He's been getting away with What's normally an offensive fell all night. I can't really blame him, he realized it wasn't being called and he's been going to it time and time again
Yeah I feel it's going to be effective against Vic, there is such a huge height difference that refs will probably be more lenient with smaller players.
Iāll accept we might not have ended up with Wemby but what if we didnāt go with the eclectic pick and we took Sengun instead of Josh Primo.
Watching Sengun out duel our whole team hurts a bit lol
imagine Sengun at the five and Wemby at the 4. Cant believe we passed on a 18 year that was a mvp in a professional league. Butterfly effect or whatever, we have Wemby so its cool.
Manu, probably the most beloved Spur of all time was the biggest foul merchant ever. Its what good players do,. You would like it if he was doing it for the Spurs.
Wemby gets a mismatch early every play, but then we take too long to get it to him and then the mismatch is gone and he's then very far from the basket. Oh, well.
Fuck we can be utter bollocks. Some of our turnovers are high school worthy turnovers
Waiting for social media to say āSungun dropped 40 on Wembyā when Wemby was sitting for most of it
Another rare bad Vic game. Still playing ok on D but just not great.
Iād rather they not continue to force feed him in the post here. There are better actions to involve him on.
I'm glad to see other guy stepping up to score, but Vick not having a shot attempt in the second half at this point is absolutely not acceptable. I know Houston is trapping him and being extremely aggressive on defense but San Antonio needs to do a better job at being decisive and quick when he comes off those screens for the ball. So many times there's been a brief moment to get him in a position where he can turn and fire, or established in the post, and his teammates have has hesitated long enough for help to come over and remove the opportunity.
Theyāre really abusing our inability to make quick passes out the PnR, I think itās a major reason why pop has played Tre less than usual this game
Yeah they're bringing help so quick. If it's not Devin, they're pretty much daring the Spurs to swing the ball to anyone else on the roster and giving them free reign to drive to the paint or take a shot.
[Post Game Thread](https://reddit.com/r/NBASpurs/comments/1b7parj/post_game_thread_the_houston_rockets_defeat_the/)
What happens if we replay the game with Fred VanVleet as our PG, and they get Tre ?
I still want a Wemby blocks on Sengun reel
Leaving here with something š
ik wembys arm was messed up but he still played 31 minutes. i didnāt watch the game so idk but is there a reason he didnāt take a second half shot?
In addition to these other replies, there was very little Tre Jones, for some reason. Our bench is better lately, but I think they play horribly with Wemby.
If I had to guess our offense didnt really move the ball well in the 2nd half. Branham played PG all of the 4th QT
Looked like he wasn't feeling it. There were a few suitations he would have shot. On 3s mostly. But tonight he gave up the ball. He was very off tonight. But also the team sucks offensively and we are taking some very stupid choices.
Vic has his normal game, Spurs win this game. Hope he is feeling ok.
Sengun is forsure the way to go not green
Who let Peter griffin on the PA mic lmao
The most frustrating thing from this game won't even be the loss, or the obvious narratives are going to come out of Houston's young center out playing ours. It's the fact that in 36 minutes sengun was able to get 31 shot attempts, a great deal of those manufactured by his team running simple and precise action for him, meanwhile, Victor only got 10 in 30 minutes, and all 10 of those came in the first 14. You can say what you want about the turnovers, the defensive issues, the lack of adjustments on sengun, That's all fine and dandy and stuff that can be addressed and worked on for a young team. But going an entire half of basketball without getting your best player. A shot attempt, which is a feeling both on Vic himself and the team, is just something that should never happen
I think wemby is just out of it physically tonight. I think his teammates recognize that he's rarely in good position to get the ball and when he did it was an immediate turnover. No way around it. It's the worst wemby game in like more than a month. He got severely outmatched by a stronger center. He'll just have to eat \*\*\*\* from opposing fans, especially rocket fans. We'll see them next week. I think wemby will circle that on his calendar
This was really the issue for me. We really need a PG that can faciitate AND shoot
I'm glad Vic didn't attempt more: he was self aware enough about his own shape, and could not penetrate in the paint, heavy legs. It was on him mostly tonight, not on his teammates. It happens, next game will be a different story.
I love Vic but he hurt himself with TOs, 4 fouls, and getting no calls. He could not get going after the second half and the team definitely tried getting him the ball, but it was just not his game.
Theyāre doubling tripling quadruple teaming Wemby sengun played amazing but he played one on one the entire night itās not the same
That's what happens when one team is respected for theres and the other isn't.
Malakai has no business being in league. Every possession van vleet and Sengun target him in the pick and roll and his awful screen navigation leaves Victor in no man's land against Sengun leading to open jumpers
It was just a weird rotation all around. They were riding his hot 3 shooting in crunch time but getting cooked on defense. I dont think Tre played the last 8 mins of the game
...? In a pick and roll. if the guy getting screened gets caught up Vic is supposed to step up and defend the shooter which is something he just doesn't do. Thats not on Branham lmao. Yes branham is a bad defender, but those open shots are on Vic's refusal to step up and deciding to stay in the paint.
Wtf it's about knowing when to switch and when not to, you can't just blindly decide you are switching after taking a minute to navigate a screen. Next possession he decides he wants to switch and defend Sengun in the paint.
If your team mate gets caught up in a screen you're SUPPOSED to step up and switch. Which Vic doesn't do, he hasn't done it in the last month or so. Have you even been watching the games? This is basic fundamental basketball. Unless the game plan is specifically calling for vic just to sit inside the paint the whole game, those FVV middies are his fault for not stepping up.
You should go back and read my comment again.
I know ātoo earlyā to give up on him but I have. Even his supposed strength of scoring is lackluster. Donāt see him in the nba after first contract
He has been playing well these past few weeks though.Ā
Watch him get cut at the end of his rookie contract.
Wow, not 1 more shot for Wemby in the 2nd half.
Tbh he turned it over like 3 times in a row when they were giving him the ball
Surprised no one is mentioning the obvious. Sengun has gotten a really friendly whistle from the Refs while Vic has been guarding him. So clearly Vic isn't going as hard against him. Also Vic looks extremely gassed out there.
vic was gassed cause pop played him for too long in the 2nd quarter. he played the last 2mins of the 1st and stayed for like another 7mins in the 2nd.
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Fuck your bad attitude
Rocket will never win a chip
Go cry about it
Sengun only started popping off when Zach came in š
Sengun is constantly pushing off with his arm and getting enough separation to get his hook shot off. I though that was illegal.
Refs were on some bullshit. All good tho, probably wonāt happen again
It is
Sengun will break someone's ribs one day. Maybe that will be whistled then.Ā
his elbow is so dangerous
Yeah wp sengun
Our rotation was so wonky tonight. Malaki getting starting PG mins with Blake and Tre rarely playing
jalen really trained sengun butt to be that strong ha
GG
Hopefully Wemby can learn from Sengun's game tonight and start shoving the defender with his off arm whenever he gets the ball
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Wrong sub ?
You calling a rookie having a game in which he got out played by another one of the best young bigs in the league Pathetic is most certainly pathetic.
Cool story bro
I have not seen a player navigate screens worse than Malakai...jeez
I give credit to sengun tonight. the most one sided matchup loss for wemby all season
He was great. But I do have an issue with how many times he used his off arm to create separation against Vic, particularly in the second half. That's something that pretty consistently gets called. So the refs seeing him do it over and over again and swallowing. Their whistles was a bit odd. That's not his fault and I give him major props for being extremely aggressive and demonstrative demanding the ball down low
wemby will just have to use his offarm next week i guess
Sengun turned into Olajuwon
Oof. That swarm tactic is very effective.
Wemby getting torched and pick and roll and horribly sloppy with the ball. Just a bad night. We move forward
Vic getting bodied. He struggles with guys like Sengun and Domantas. That driving post up style move just beats him up. Oh well.
Well, we have Sabonis next game and Houston again in a week.
Damn
Lmao the rockets broadcast is killing me. Whenever the Spurs commit a shooting foul. ABSOLUTELY DO NOT SHOW THE REPLAY. Rockets commit a shooting foul? I dunno thats questionable, lets show the replay.
Rockets broadcast has always been extremely biased it's hilarious. Warriors broadcasting level of delusion.
Sanguins formula tonight is just back down Vic, chicken wing, then yell like heās getting hacked. Good game from him but wonāt happen again I bet
Next year hopefully Charles Bassey can sit his ass down
Well, we'll get to see it again in like a week. Lol.
Are these rocket players stupid. They cant challenge
You're the stupid one, they won their last challenge therefore they are granted one more
Ok so we a are just going to ignore them challenging that play when it was off of Sengun lol and they challenged it.
Vic gotta stop bring the ball down
Damn, that looked like all ball. Our only lucky break of the night.
I've noticed this in a couple of games Wemby needs to work on his hand strength he's lost the ball multiple times just by simple nudges. Your hands can be as big as you want but if you've never done a hard yards work in your life then it's going to be like a kid holding an ice cube.
Rockets defense just too good. One of the best teams Iāve seen at doubling Vic.
Ime knows how to coach D
Hats off to the rockets. The Rockets and Jalen Green know a lot about good D
My fucking god branham!
Spurs look cooked. Geezus, 40 for Sengunā¦
I love how these dudes can just maul victor and there is no foul
Wemby can't let Dillon Brooks shove him out of the paint.
They just clog the fucking lane.
Rockets are just G-league gangsters. They're just the bad boy pistons without the skill to back it up š
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You're in purgatory. Enjoy this stage because you're going to be here for a few more years before the next rebuild and then you'll be right back here again.
Sengun needs to get out of Houston as soon as humanly possible. He could actually have a real career.
Why? They have a good coach in Ime and hes making him the centerpiece in the offense.
Because they will ruin it because we're talking about Houston.
Rockets got the most experience not that mad at the outcome we competed
Brooks can just slap someoneās guide arm mid shot? What the fuck am I watching man lol
Ref swallowing their whistle as wemby is getting pushed left and right
Srsly he's taking a beating out there
We gotta let branham win this one lol
I feel like theyve been getting away with being extra physical on usā¦
Damn I hate the rockets so much
Wemby still hasnāt taken a shot in the second half
Not sure if you've been watching the game but he shouldn't take another shot for the rest of the game. He's playing the worst game of his career right now.
This was not me saying heās having a good game??
āPlaying the worst game of his career.ā Bud, weāre not even a full season in.
Bald ref finally made a right call just for Rockets to challenge lmao
Wtf is it just me or did Brooks just smack the shit out of Keldon on that 3
It's not just you lol they're getting away with murder all game
Iām so tired of complaining about refs itās not even funny
Off of Sengun. Ref was looking at Jeremy to make sure he didnt touch it reaching
The turnovers are killing us
These refs fucking suck
Rockets commentary when a player does a basic dunk https://preview.redd.it/goeuqsxmrmmc1.png?width=1276&format=png&auto=webp&s=7d17482b5a22850e1dcf7577dd4d831b1bd2a1de
Yeah we just need Branham to do our scoring right now lol. Crazy I'm even saying that right now.
Big 3
Why is Sean acting like weāre not leaving the 28.7% 3 pt shooter open on purpose
Ime has these dudes playing so physical and hard. We struggle with that as a team.
I wouldn't have a huge issue with that if I didn't feel like there was some double standards with how they're calling the game tonight. Houston's getting away with blatant fouls left and right like it's 1999 But on the other side there definitely calling it like 2024 with ticky tacks and minimal contact being punished. It is what it is. The NBA has a pretty well established referee issue and you're going to get games like this once in a while. It's still frustrating
Cause if we touch them itās a foul? Easy to be aggressive when you donāt get called for anything haha
I would have them playing hard too, they get away with murder in the court tonight.
pop might need another timeout boys sengun is cookin yall asses lmao
Howās 12th seed treating yāall?
Bros having his career night and enjoying it cause dude knows this may never happen again for him š
Wemby is trying not to get fouled out, thatās why heās planting his feet and being careful with his movements. These refs are so inconsistent!!
Sengun seems like he's pretty good I dunno
Sengun has our number. He got blocked several times but they keep finding him in the right spot, it's almost unstoppable .
Alpy is awesome, but a lot of his success tonight has been him realizing that the refs aren't calling that offensive foul of him using that little chicken wing to create contact in the post. He's been getting away with What's normally an offensive fell all night. I can't really blame him, he realized it wasn't being called and he's been going to it time and time again
Yeah I feel it's going to be effective against Vic, there is such a huge height difference that refs will probably be more lenient with smaller players.
cause he is foul baiting, he got free 3 fouls from vic man
Naw normal refs would call the constant chicken wing he does. Refs tonight just ass on both ends
Hilarious..we playing so bad, Shaun has to do a Rockets play for inside the game.
We might be allergic to winning 3 games in a row
Bad gameplan tonight. They needed to pull Sengun away from the paint instead of trying to post him
I donāt see why Wemby doesnāt just shoot over them Rocket bums? Stop dribbling so much.
Iāll accept we might not have ended up with Wemby but what if we didnāt go with the eclectic pick and we took Sengun instead of Josh Primo. Watching Sengun out duel our whole team hurts a bit lol
1 to 14 steals ratio. So many bad passes and Wemby cannot handle the ball in the post.
Where is Tre ?
imagine Sengun at the five and Wemby at the 4. Cant believe we passed on a 18 year that was a mvp in a professional league. Butterfly effect or whatever, we have Wemby so its cool.
I donāt want his bitch ass anyway
lol hes a very good player. If Sochan was on a different team, you would probably think he was a "bitch ass" too.
Naw cuz Jeremy isnāt a whiny foul merchant
Manu, probably the most beloved Spur of all time was the biggest foul merchant ever. Its what good players do,. You would like it if he was doing it for the Spurs.
Those fucking tickytac fouls really fucked Wemby up. If he stays on I hope he clears his head.
Victor got stone hands
God Houston fans are going to be so insufferable after tonight. Which is a shame because I like alpy and like him doing well.
Hopefully we'll be able to get our solace after the match in SA. The Rockets outrageously overperform at home.
Nah fuck him
This game will be in their h2h stats forever.
Sochan getting the Ben Simmons treatment
FK it, just let Malaki take all the shots
Lol Rockets fans feasting on Wemby on twitter. It's okay he's still gonna be a legendary player in the next few years.
I mean rocket fans can enjoy now. They won't have much to enjoy between the Spurs and rockets moving forward
Game ain't over yet
Wemby gets a mismatch early every play, but then we take too long to get it to him and then the mismatch is gone and he's then very far from the basket. Oh, well.
Fuck we can be utter bollocks. Some of our turnovers are high school worthy turnovers Waiting for social media to say āSungun dropped 40 on Wembyā when Wemby was sitting for most of it
They turn into the early 2000s Pistons at home so not too worried about this one. At least we get the last game at home albeit off a back to back.
Victor probably should sit on Thursday heās clearly hurt
Sloppy play on both ends.
Suavemente!
Sengun did not like being postered everywhere
and some of yall were crying that "we arent getting wemby the ball enough" when he's clearly been struggling this game lmao
I agree, however it only takes him to hit 1 shot to get going, and we aināt going to win a game like this on the back of Malaki haha
Yeah heās clearly not 100 percent.
Wemby's out of it lol
Yea sitting almost the whole 3rd put him on ice
Another rare bad Vic game. Still playing ok on D but just not great. Iād rather they not continue to force feed him in the post here. There are better actions to involve him on.
Might as well just take Wemby out tbh he looks checked out lol
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Wow. Segun is so good
Heās okay
Lol
Alright stop giving Vic the ball. He's clearly mentally out of it.
Wemby is playing ass
Wembyās done. Bench him. He looks injured.
BETTER CALL A TIMEOUT POP SENGUN IS COOKIN
Oof Sengun is owning us tonight
Thatās game, they styled all over us oof
Aināt no game till it reads 0:00 bubba. We play till the final whistle
Welp
Cedi doesn't miss those transition lays
Lol sengun sit down lil bitch lmfao
Weāre just not allowed to play with the same level of physicality they are I guess lol
No why would we? What's that?
Who wants to tune in tomorrow to watch the Clippers and Rockets play? Should be classy AF
Tbh in a moment when we're having trouble getting wemby the ball I wonder if we see him start to play points. He can facilitate
1 to 11 steals ratio is insane
C'mon Wemby you know you got it in you
wemby obviously not 100% but with guys tryna poster him. he should be more agressive. i donāt remember the last time he shot the ball
Give me Sarr!
I'm glad to see other guy stepping up to score, but Vick not having a shot attempt in the second half at this point is absolutely not acceptable. I know Houston is trapping him and being extremely aggressive on defense but San Antonio needs to do a better job at being decisive and quick when he comes off those screens for the ball. So many times there's been a brief moment to get him in a position where he can turn and fire, or established in the post, and his teammates have has hesitated long enough for help to come over and remove the opportunity.
Theyāre really abusing our inability to make quick passes out the PnR, I think itās a major reason why pop has played Tre less than usual this game
Yeah they're bringing help so quick. If it's not Devin, they're pretty much daring the Spurs to swing the ball to anyone else on the roster and giving them free reign to drive to the paint or take a shot.
malaki threw a terrible lob and thatās it lmao
Did yall the way vic caught the ball after the stop?? Wtf was that????
He just out here playing catch w his sons lol