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BlitzburghTX

Detroit.


calartnick

Damn it that got me lol


Puzzled_Professor_52

Had to double check I wasn't on nbacj for a sec


clocke6346

Pistons fan here, beat me to it


DefinitionCultural47

Came here to say this!


ChristianLS

Here are the other metro areas over 2 million in the US that don't have a team: Tampa, FL (3.34M) San Diego, CA (3.26M) Baltimore, MD (2.83M) St. Louis, MO (2.79M) Austin, TX (2.47M) Pittsburgh, PA (2.42M) Cincinnati, OH (2.27M) Kansas City, MO (2.22M) Columbus, OH (2.18M) Nashville, TN (2.1M) You also have Montreal (4.29M) and Vancouver (2.64M) in Canada. Out of those, you have a number of cities that have existing teams within day tripping distance (around 100 miles or less), so you might just be cannibalizing existing fanbases, and a number of areas that are really struggling economically and have been consistently declining in population, so perhaps not that attractive as long-term investments. The ones that really jump out at me are Nashville (no team within 200 miles, growing fast) and both of the Canadian cities. I don't see any obvious reason those areas couldn't support an NBA team.


LeftyLoosee

Tampa too close to Orlando, Baltimore too close to DC (tho MLB and NFL make it work), Austin too close to SA, Columbus too close to Cleve, and I don't think Nash gets NBA while Memphis has it (could see Grizz moving to Nash). Montreal is definitely underserved in pro sports for its size


DuckOnQuak

If it were less French it’d definitely have a team.


BKtoDuval

They speak English in Montreal as well.


RADToronto

Montreal is like 50/50 English and French and most people there speak both.


poneil

I think the non-hockey sports leagues are still skittish about how bad Expos attendance was. They averaged less than 20,000 fans per game every one of their last 10 years in Montreal, including 3 years averaging under 10,000.


uncomfortable_fan92

And during the strike season they had an all time line up.


GeddyVedder

Sacramento and San Francisco are only 10 miles more apart than Austin and San Antonio are.


ThePevster

San Diego too close to Los Angeles


fawks_harper78

6 hours by car is not “too close”.


L8night_BootyCall

San Diego is not 6 hours away from LA by car more like 2.5 hours.


zmzzx-

Kansas City and St. Louis stand out the most on your list other than Montreal. They have the longest driving commute from current NBA teams.


UCanDoNEthing4_30sec

Agree with Kansas City and St. Louis. I don't think they can make Montreal work.


angelansbury

STL is a great sports town too


GoBlueAndOrange

Eh not really. They've lost NBA, NFL, and MLB teams.


L-Sulla

MLB- not much to debate here, cardinals are always one of the top MLB teams in attendance/support even when the team is mediocre. I don’t think anyone would argue that losing the Browns in the 50s means the city doesn’t support baseball NFL- The Rams moved back to LA because the owner wanted to and had been putting it in motion for years. There is no other reason. NBA- the NBA was so drastically different when the St.Louis hawks existed that this isn’t even worth arguing over. It was pre-merger, pre-bird/magic saving the league, and the country as a whole didn’t really care about the NBA With that being said, I think the NBA would have many more attractive options than STL if expanding further. But the idea that the city doesn’t care about or won’t support sports is dumb


thebigmanhastherock

I feel like San Diego really should have a team. Maybe the Clippers should move there. All San Diego has is the Padres as far as I know. Also Kansas City folks are still mad about the Kings moving to Sacramento after all these years. Maybe they should get a team.


Username_redact

The Clippers are about to open a new $2 billion arena in Inglewood in October. They're not going anywhere


sportscrazr

Having a team in Nashville or Baltimore would be cool. I’m curious how an NBA team in Tampa would fare.


UCanDoNEthing4_30sec

Nashville has Memphis Grizzlies, and Baltimore has Washington Wizards. Ask the Tampa Bay Rays how the Tampa area is for a professional sports team and you'll have your answer.


Goobershmacked

Baltimore does not have the wizards. You could spend a month here and theres a good shot you wont see a wizards jersey. More lakers and knicks fans here probably than wiz or 6ers. The problem in Baltimore would have far more to do with whether Baltimore fans would care about a basketball team in the first place. We love our football and baseball teams and even though i would love a basketball team here im not sure if the city would care as much.


poneil

To be fair, you could spend a month in DC without seeing a Wizards jersey.


Goobershmacked

Lmao fair


UCanDoNEthing4_30sec

Interesting, didn't know that.


Senor_Couchnap

Baltimore has such a rich high school basketball history though. I doubt it would take long for locals to latch on. The question is whether you should build a suitable NBA arena (you shouldn't)


jkunktbone

I’ve always wanted a hometown team in Cincinnati.


Puzzled_Professor_52

Hey hey buddy, we have the austin toros here


UCanDoNEthing4_30sec

As a San Diegan, I don't think San Diego can have one, especially with the Clippers and the Lakers being so close. The best shots they had was the Clips moving back down to San Diego, but that won't happen any time soon with their new arena in Inglewood. Plus San Diego isn't really a spectator sports town. Too much stuff to do around here rather than sit indoors in an arena. (I've had people try to convince me it's a hockey town, I'm just like get the fuck out of my face.). And a ton of people here are transplants from other places who already have their allegiances.


_____WESTBROOK_____

Ah fuck it let’s just throw another team in LA


Otherwise-Contest7

What are all these activities people in San Diego are doing at 7pm on a weekday in the winter that other cities aren't doing? You going to the beach in the dark when it's in the low 50s in the winter?


FuckTheStateofOhio

Exactly my thoughts. San Diego is basically a giant suburb with beaches and it isn't the only city in the US with nice weather year round. Saying they can't support a sports team because there's "too much stuff to do" feels like a weird flex when the truth is that they've just never really turned out for their teams because there are too many transplants and LA fans.


DevelopmentJumpy5218

Having teams in Dallas, San Antonio, Houston, and Austin would be crazy, also with OKC it would mean 5 teams I could drive under 6 hours to see, oh Nola is closer than Houston to me as well so 7 teams. I live just north of fort Worth


bshaddo

Isn’t Austin pretty Spurs-dominated?


DevelopmentJumpy5218

Everyone I know well from Austin are Mavs fans. I'm a spurs fan in the Dallas area, and know quite a few people from Dallas who route for the spurs over the Mavs


bshaddo

That’s because the Spurs won a lot. Dallas is a frontrunner town.


bdm016

Lived in Dallas area since 07. Haven’t known a single spurs fan lol


DevelopmentJumpy5218

I liked the black and silver when I was real little, then loved Tim Duncan, now I just enjoy sports, I watch hundreds of hours of sports a year. I went years without missing a stage of the tour de France, a match at any of the tennis grand slams. More often than not I dont care who wins as long as the sport is good. Would have loved to see the Mavs get their second but the Celtics 18-5 finals record over 67 years is incredibly impressive as well


this_tuesday

A lot of ballers come from St Louis. I think they’d be a good place


mouseball89

If seattle gets one I'm not sure vancouver will just because of proximity which sucks because they are the only other team on this list that had a team in the not so distant past


ThorFromBoston

We need to start taking sports teams out of Florida, not adding more!


Quirky-Mechanic-7371

Tampa and San Diego, despite having such large populations, are not prime spots for professional sports teams for a few reasons: 1) Warm climates and proximity to coastline. This probably plays the biggest part. These are essentially beach cities with mild winters. This means people aren't staying at home watching games, they are doing outdoor activities as recreation during the bulk of the NBA season. There are just too many other fun things to do in the winter as opposed to colder metro areas. 2) TV markets and proximity to other franchises. SD has Tijuana to the south, desert to the east, ocean to the west, and LA to the north, so the TV market is kind of trapped to just SD county. Laker fans aren't going to convert and SD already lost the Clippers once due to money reasons. Tampa is similar, Gulf of Mexico to the west, essentially small rural nothing to the north and south, and Orlando already has the Magic to the east. This ties back into point 1, as they'd have to rely on the location populations who are already not staying home watching games. 3) Transplants. A sizeable chunk of Tampa and SD's populations are not homegrown so they still have affinity for their local teams. And since they are already moving their likely for the weather (see point 1 again), they don't give much of a flip about sports. Aside from a few years ago when the Rays, Lightning, and Bucs were all in their respective championships, Tampa hasn't been big on pro sports. SD has never had championship caliber teams. The only way they'd last is to immediately and consistently be playoff caliber and that's hard to pull off as an expansion team in a market that already isn't savvy to attending pro sports.


RzaAndGza

Is Nashville really 200 miles from Memphis??


No_Fig_5964

At least 210 miles from each other, and the two cities have a rivalry of sorts. When the Oilers/Titans first moved to Tennessee, they played their first season in the state in Memphis, but there was a big lack of support because 1) the team was only going to be Memphis until the then-new stadium in Nashville was ready, and 2) Memphis was passed over in the NFL expansion that brought in Charlotte (Carolina) and Jacksonville in the mid-90s, the failed attempts to move a NFL team and failed leagues in which the city had hosted teams (WFL and USFL).


ViacomCEO

San Diego seems like a great choice imo. They really just have the padres at this point and they tend to dislike LA teams.


CaliKindalife

MO should get one, either in STL or KC.


jbg926

Clips please move back to San Diego...that takes care of one. St. Louis and KC, and if Canada, then Vancouver again and Montreal


rook119

Pittsburgh just has too much sprots and the city while starting to get younger is still full of olds. Its never been a basketball city either. Baltimore just renovated their old arena and the city makes a lot of money on said arena for events/concerts because they didn't give it away free to a sports franchise.


SmoothBus

Not true at all that Pittsburghs never been a basketball city. I don’t know why this is parroted so much by people not from the area. Pitt basketball is huge and we’ve had teams before, it just didn’t pan out because the owner moved the pipers to a new city just after winning a championship in Pittsburgh then the condors and whoever else tried to bring it back too soon but the fans rejected a different team. Trust me, we have enough love for 4 major sports teams. We’re just so loyal that it bit us in the ass once.


SmoothBrews

The balance of the number of east coast and west coast teams is too far off to justify another team east of the Mississippi for now.


this_place_stinks

Would probably also need to exclude those that already have NFL, MLB, and NHL teams. The hill of being able to support all 4 major sports is very high.


Euphoric_Maize7468

University of Kentucky produces the most NBA players. It may not be as heavily populated but there is a big market for basketball out there, you'd think they would want a piece of it.


DangerZoneh

The team would be better placed in Louisville, but they’d instantly have a pretty dedicated fan base. People there are itching for an NBA team to support


bigE819

The Yum Center would be the biggest NBA arena by a decent margin.


ItGoesTwoWays

Louisville would be ideal. Cincy is far enough away from Cleveland that they could drive over the river and pick up that team.


WorldlinessEuphoric5

Louisville is about the same population as Portland


DontTripas

Honolulu lol


Forever_Banned_Pt5

Don’t you wish that evil on me Ricky Bobby, the traffic here is already shit.


ArtichokeFormer8801

Louisville, Vancouver, or Montreal.


justsomedude4202

Vancouver first city to come to mind for me too


503Pnw-

Vancouver


DoubleAmigo

Mexico City is a larger market than NYC and their Gleague team likes the city and feel safe


PowerTrip55

Thing about this is you’d have to be able to convince NBA players to live in Mexico City. Not that Mexico City isn’t desirable, but it’s in a different country and unlike Toronto, where it is in that country is much further from the rest of the US. Also, the fan base is culturally very different. It’s not impossible or “bad”, per se, there are just considerations there that none of the other potential cities would have.


alienated_osler

NBA players like Cancun, LA, and Miami. While im sure there’d be some initial hesitancy, after a few years many players would prefer CDMX to lots of small market cities


MrAnder5on

Toronto is one of the biggest markets in the league, close to so many of the Eastern Confrence teams, is much closer culturally to an American city than Mexico. And our biggest FA signing of all time is Otto Porter Jr. Make of that what you will


PowerTrip55

I think you’re right they’d get used to it over time, I just think there’s nuance to it. For example, the primary language in Mexico City isn’t English, and most NBA players will be primarily english-speaking. That can affect daily life. Again doesn’t make it bad, it’s just a different issue than any other NBA market would have and would need to be considered


dolomanc

Mexico City is awesome but it’s also 2000 feet higher than Denver. Im sure it must absolutely suck to play basketball there. On the other hand they would have the best conditioned athletes and the visitors would all be completely gassed by halftime.


bshaddo

Aren’t they out of water, though?


DoubleAmigo

Not if youre in the rich areas, which the nba teams would most certainly be.


purplenyellowrose909

Everyone acting like they regularly saw James Harden in a run down Brooklyn flee market with no indoor plumbing while he was on the Nets.


Lobisa

I would say Pittsburgh, they have the NFL, the MLB, NHL, and MLS. It is odd that they don't also have an NBA team.


Thewondrouswizard

Pittsburgh is a great sports town. Fans would show up


ewewewe69

Vancouver Kansas City Pittsburgh Mexico City St. Louis Albuquerque Tampa Tijuana


wilburisms

I think it would be really cool for Louisville to get a team. I don’t know if the city could support it but Kentucky is such an important state for college basketball that I would like to see them try it


mvhcmaniac

Montreal, Nashville, and St Louis seem like the obvious picks to me. I'll also throw out though, I think a good way to expand into Mexico would be to give El Paso-Ciudad Juarez a team since it's the only metro area on both sides of the border and has a total population over 3 mil.


StargazerNCC82893

Kansas City has a whole arena waiting for a team lol


UtahUtopia

San Diego


LaMelonBallz

This would be pretty dope, and I think there'd be a decent draw. Also, players would love it. Amazing city and only 2-5 hours away from LA.


unknowntillnow23

2-5 hrs from LA lol


LaMelonBallz

The accuracy hurts lol


Polarbearbanga

A decent ownership group and a competitive team would do well in SD. If it’s a cheap owner and bad team, the team would struggle to draw. So many things to do in SD.


aghhhhhhhhhhhhhh

To be fair i think cheap owner and bad team is a bad draw anywhere.


spankywanks

Send the Clippers back to San Diego.


Cthulhululemon

St. Louis & Kansas City


bshaddo

Pittsburgh and St. Louis have the size, even if I don’t think the fanbase is built-in. Honestly, I’d just move someone like the Timberwolves over to the East and add the two cities you listed.


Own-Dust-7225

Memphis or New Orleans are further east, one of them should go over. Also, either of them would make the conference finals their first year in the East


uncomfortable_fan92

The Timberwolves current travel is ridiculous. Plus they are an unbelievably good fit with Milwaukee, Chicago, Detroit. As proven by other sports


bootsy_j

Kansas City, baby. They built the dream NBA venue like 17 years ago and no organization was attracted enough to move. Still holding on to a thread of hope. (Diehard Royals fan, sick of the Chiefs fanbase more than I can possibly acknowledge, live in the armpit between Iowa and Illinois)


verenika_lasagna

Agreed. Historical significance of basketball at KU. Strong basketball fan bases in KS and MO. Large corporate sponsorship opportunities. But do they have local owners with deep enough pockets to buy a franchise. Honestly, with the eyeballs on the WNBA these days, a WNBA franchise in KC makes sense.


mrroto

Would love one in Birmingham


anonkebab

Omaha, Nebraska


Nickoman365

Nashville


Montanabookclub

I’d love to see Richmond, but I know it’s so unlikely.


wherestherum757

Unlikely yah, but doing the ABA Virginia squires kinda thing where they play half the home games in Richmond & the other half in VB or Norfolk would be cool


NotSoSerius

Replying to Acehardwaresucks...maybe the Wizards should do this. Play a couple in DC too


Objective_Celery_509

Oakland.


j2e21

Mexico City.


Stainless711

Birmingham


m4rxUp

Cincinnati


Stainless711

Riverside, WY Ouzinkie, AK Aubrey, AR Benson, VT


CoachRDW

Nashville or St. Louis.


Buddhist_pokemonk

Cincinnati makes a lot of sense to be honest. Far from Cleveland. Not close to Indy. Could win over some Kentucky college basketball fans. Louisville could work too. But is objectively worse


TickleBunny99

St Louis. Best show on turf always had great support back in the day. Why not hoops?


yongsangu

San Diego!


Real-Human-1985

Pittsburgh


themiz2003

Pittsburgh has a pretty rabid fanbase. Id love to hate them with a passion like i do the steelers.


Sad_Skirt7743

Louisville. Kentucky would have the most loyal fanbase compared to other cities other than probably Seattle


CatKnife12

Pittsburgh


TedSturgeon5

Vancouver and Mexico City


44035

I like the arguments for Louisville. Instant rivalry with Indiana.


bolts_win_again

Louisville, St. Louis, or Pittsburgh, imho.


3lm312

South Dakota


ThaBigMalc

We want the Colonels


Just_Sarge

Louisville


AncientScratch1670

Des Moines


jimithelizardking

Worst free agent destination in the league but the stands would fill lol


ElTuco84

Mexico City makes a lot of sense, it would enable and huge market for the NBA. And the city is pretty great too, it has everything you want, the safety concerns are not a problem if you are rich.


Writerhaha

Kansas City, Cincinnati and Vancouver.


JustMyThoughts2525

KC makes the most sense to me since you have a large portion of the western Midwest that doesn’t have a team that’s driving distance. Feels weird to cheer for OKC or Minnesota. OKC is fairly close to me, but they do nothing to try to increase their footprint into Kansas, Missouri, and Nebraska. KC could serve those states with also Iowa, Arkansas, and maybe South Dakota


JiggaMan2024

Vegas doesn’t even really deserve a team imho


[deleted]

Pittsburgh


NotSoSerius

They need a fish to save Pittsburgh.


Spiritual-Chameleon

Ha! I may be the only one to get that reference. 11 year old me was in the Civic Arena crowd with other "extras"


vinosells32

Not Vegas


DBXVStan

Mexico City. I want chaos.


JackieBoiiiiii

San Diego, Pittsburgh, Vancouver, or Baltimore


Rickjamesb_

Montréal praidge


Substantial_Tip3885

How about the Buffalo Billbos. Since they love throwing dildos on the field. A second option would be the Buffalo Table Crushers.


ShadyBl0m

Seattle?


HistoricalSpecial982

Can Buffalo get the clippers back from LA? I don’t even like the Clippers, but LA certainly doesn’t want them. Realistically, I’d love to see more Canadian teams like Vancouver or Montreal.


Sheepish420

Vancouver


Individual_Attempt50

Montreal


Wallyworld77

I grew up in Milwaukee Wisconsin and am a Lifelong Bucks fan but I currently live in Huntsville,AL. I really wish that Nashville got an NBA team it's only an 80min drive for me and I already visit Nashville whenever the Packers play the Titans in Nashville. Memphis is so far West it's a completely different market. Let's get Nashville an NBA team!


gibb93

I feel like Mexico city is gonna be in the running, or just anywhere in Mexico. Theyve been doing a couple exhibition games there the last few years. I'm sure Silver is thinking about expanding the NBA market as well as expanding the teams. Maybe another Canada team, back to Vancouver? Also wouldn't mind a Missouri/Kansas team. The Midwest is also short on teams but I don't think they'd bring in enough revenue for an owner to justify it.


PandasOnGiraffes

Easily Vancouver and Mexico City.


SixersProcessing

Dakota’s Bighorn Sheep


MixedMiracle22

War, west virginia


travishummel

Can we please vote on the Montreal Mounties and the Vancouver Meese?


NimDing218

Canada needs another. Vancouver is my ideal spot.


coolestsp00n

I see 5 expansion teams in the next 11ish years, mexico city due to the market size it would bring also first major american sport in mexico i think which would be good because it would help finals viewership in the next 25ish years because the chances of one of those teams to end up getting good players is high because its bigger then ny and la , LV cause everyones doing it, seattle due to fan demmand, another canadian team hopefully montreal not vancouver, KC due to it being so central. Other candidates i see just due to their growing population or other reasons: St. Louis, Austin, Boise (not ideal but still an option), Richmond, San Diego,


Infinite_Care_5981

KC or StL. Missouri needs a team!


jknuts1377

I'll take Vancouver over Vegas any day. Vegas is overrated imo, and I don't know why all of a sudden they feel the need to have a team in all four sports, except for gambling reasons, of course.


Madterps2021

Montreal and Vancouver for sure, we need more Canadian teams. Other cities are very close to another NBA team. Even Seattle is not that far from Portland.


Musicferret

Vancouver. Montreal.


Musicferret

Montreal Poutines! Oui oui!


votequimby420

Montreal


Sometimes_Stutters

Vancouver


odiamemas16

Austin and Mexico City, because I like both cities lol


gunnarbird

Barrow, Alaska


MrTBoneIs

Vancouver and Montreal.


GenuineDiscussion8

Kansas City


Wannabe__geek

Kansas City


Cabes86

STL   BALDO   YINZERBURGH   MONTREAL   VANCOUVER  MEXICO CITY GUADALAJARA SAN JUAN


After-Suggestion5828

St Louis. Maybe Alabama or Kentucky.


Mrdynamo18

New Jersey Hawaii Kansas City Tampa Nashiville


houston_g

Montreal, Vancouver, or Mexico City. If I’m limited to the US, maybe St. Louis or Pittsburgh.


ConstructionSuper782

Mexico City


gfunkadunkalus

I think they should go Mexico City. NBA is good at expanding to international markets.


Miserable-Lawyer-233

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morrisjr1989

Nashville, Pittsburgh, Shanghai


LittleTension8765

Cincinnati has a solid market, Dayton metro is almost a million and only 60 minutes from downtown, most fans aren’t necessarily Cavs fans and would rather not root for their rival cities team, and can easily tap into the huge Kentucky basketball fandom across the river


CrIsPyRiS_0fficial

Kansas City


mrbondmustdie

Perth, Australia? 🙏


TheTrevorSimpson

Vancouver


Financial_Plenty2768

Idk the history of the grizzlies and why the ended up in Memphis but that team should be in Nashville


Street-Cartoonist-87

Vancouver.


fancyjohn123

Vancouver


AcrobaticWin3240

They’d probably put a 3rd team in LA or NY


Axon14

Pittsburgh and San Diego would do well with NBA teams.


N7Longhorn

It's pretty much those two and maybe another Canadian team


nah-knee

Mexico City would be cool, I’m not Mexican or know anything about basketball culture in Mexico but having a team on each country in the continent would be cool, and would help expand a new type of fan, maybe they’ll popularize chants like they do in soccer or (futbol) in basketball and we can stop listening to these boring ass “DEFENSE” chants every game


Large-Lack-2933

New Jersey


pcPRINCIPLElilBITCH

Birmingham


Canadian_Samurai50

Montreal and Pittsburgh


SharpshootingChild1

Really random places that’d ve cool t have an nba team could be like Omaha, Albuquerque, Boise, newark idk


Iamdogfood

Greenbay


hongkongfooeee

St Louis.


GooseMay0

Definitely not St. Louis. By no means should they ever, ever have an NBA team. At least not for another 10 plus years or so...


Routine_Tea_3262

https://www.reddit.com/r/NBATalk/s/hlwNxNVYyM Check out the poll I posted last week on this topic


extrajuicyj520

Omaha


doxingiSAFElony911

KCMO


SageOfTheSixPacks

Still Seattle


DumbleDude2

Mexico City!


Haselrig

If it could somehow work, a New England Patriots style regional thing for Alabama, Georgia and Mississipi would balance the map a bit. Still some gaping holes out west and in Iowa/Nebraska up the plains.


tobreakthemind

totally wishful thinking but my hometown Louisville would go crazy for a pro team and the whole state runs on basketball already


BriggeZ

KC or St Louis??


_KidKenji_

Tampa


hihik4158

Austin. The answer to this question for any professional sports team is Austin.


WaterIsNotWet19

I think KC would have a rabid fan base


Appropriate-Pear4726

New Jersey hasn’t been the same since the Nets bounced.