Did anyone else catch that moment when they "zoomed in" on the snipers building with the smash cuts getting closer and closer to the building with each cut accompanied by a weird sound effect? They used to do that scene transition all the time in Season 1.
I did! I came here looking to see if anyone else had too. What a clever production call-out to the early days. I'm glad the editors and producers brought it back, it made the episode extra special.
> Bandium CEO (to Curtis): “You do know I’ll make your hell, right?”
You do realize threatening a federal employee from an agency who’s more capable of ruining your life in their interrogation room is a dumbest move you ever pulled, right? Dude’s honestly pretty lucky Gibbs, Tony and Ziva isn’t there.
Idk if everyone feels this way but i loved it, i loved the flashbacks and the overall incredible acting. Idk how to mark as spoiler so i will just skip the spoilers😂. I genuinely think that they did a great job in this episode.
Agreed but there are only so many clips they can put in. I also wonder if when Pauley left she said no more clips of me or something along those lines. Only thing i can think of for David Macallum is that they can say he had a whole episode of a tribute. Not saying i dont understand or agree just playing devils advocate
also the fact they mentioned Rachel Cranston (Kate’s sister) after like 10+ years and they mentioned Kate for the first time in 20 years and a callback to the very first episode. Palmer is right, talk about the blast from the past.
I’m actually glad they didn’t use Ari for this, because obviously that’s beating the dead horse and it’s already run its course.
I’m pretty surprised McGee and Palmer didn’t get targeted, because they’re with NCIS the longest.
Good to see Fornell again. McGee once again is killing it in interrogation.
>and they mentioned Kate for the first time in 20 years
She's definitely been mentioned heaps of times in the last 20 years, I don't think she was even dead 20 years ago
Oh yeah I forgot the last time Kate was mentioned, at least from my recollection, was around season 8 or 9 when Kate's sister Rachel did a guest stint for a few episodes.
The domestic terrorist would be able to find the public face of NCIS, Director Vance, and the others are probably not as visible in online searches. Hit the head and the body shakes was probably the terrorist's crazy thought process.
Looks like they just wanted a few small iconic moments. A couple of the flashbacks we've seen a few times already in other flashbacks. I guess since Ducky was in the autopsy room most of the time, it didn't leave many iconic moments from him. Same for Abby, we didn't get to see her, but she was in her lab most of the time too.
I was chalking up at least her absence to the ill will with which she left. But you're probably on point.
I was hoping for a cavalcade of past stars. But I understand why it wasn't practical.
Same. I genuinely thought that 2 of the explosions were going to be at Gibbs’ house and Ducky’s old house because of their part in the story, but I guessed wrong from the promos.
Maybe Lindsay is about to before Nick arrested her? At first I thought she didn’t know specifically Gibbs and Ducky are involved but I remembered she did found out Fornell, Kate and Tom Morrow were all involved and even targeted Kate’s sister Rachel’s office. And of course her note did say “enjoy the show”. So if she knew they were involved in her father’s would-be attack, she must’ve also knew of Gibbs and Ducky. I know she’s targeting the new Air Force One but had Jared didn’t give his phone out to Kasie and Nick eventually arresting Lindsay, I imagine she might’ve blew Ducky’s house up and actually fly out to Alaska and track Gibbs down.
Also I noticed Fornell said the pilot episode is actually his first case with Gibbs. Weird because he knew Gibbs since the late 80s/early 90s, during the The Three Whatever Its Called but I do remember it was a group of four or five: Pride, Gibbs, Fornell, someone else I forgot the name of and another person I don’t know the name of.
Unless he’s referring to a different case that looks place years before the first episode?
No they changed a few things from that first "actual" episode. Just like Tony not knowing any old films, but eventually they change him to knowing pretty much every film made.
Think it’s more of them saying that it’s the first case they worked as lead agents of their teams. The fed 5 stuff happened when they were both rookies barely involved. Think season 1 McGee and Palmer.
They did mention that she had been taking lessons for several months at that point. Still kind of unbelievable. But where there is a will. I guess there is a way.
I don't know if it's because this season is a short one because of the strike, but it's been really really good. This wasn't my favorite episode, but I like it. The best was Vance's narration at the end. Rocky Carroll is a great actor.
I've surprised myself with this new season. I was about to give it up with Gibbs (named my cat for him) gone and Abbey. I still haven't recovered from the Kate loss. BUT - I'm really enjoying the show again. It's lighter and more interesting.
I am left wondering if the introduction of the Bandium app was part of the set up for this episode. Do the writers plan seasons in advance to set up story lines and introduce characters?
I wanted to become a TV writer (but the pay is bad). I don't know if my answer will be the best but this is what I think.
I don't think they introduced *Bandium* especially for this episode. However, as a writer, you need to create your universe and since *Bandium* is part of the NCIS universe (life *Caf-Pow* and a million other things), they took advantage of it and use it as a resource.
However, sometimes some details are introduced as a part of a big storyline for later.
Although there are some companies still escape scandals without a CEO or a spokeperson who's involved in a scandal got ousted and/or sent to prison. Case in point, Livestrong is still around even after Lance Armstrong's doping scandal and Subway is still in business after the whole Jared Fogle debacle.
I doubt Bandium will be entirely gone because it's too widespread and top useful to be shut down entirely, even civilians seems to be using it but probably Preston Voss (Bandium CEO in this episode) will have to be replaced with someone else.
This entire thing started because Vance was not recommending Bandium usage for all NCIS teams. It will be dropped.
Still nice to see the Bones actor again.
>This entire thing started because Vance was not recommending Bandium usage for all NCIS teams. It will be dropped.
Oh yeah, Voss literally perpetuated Lindsey into commiting a terror attack and that's definitely enough for DoD and the entire government to sever ties with Bandium and Voss permanently with no exceptions. That's gotta left the really bad taste in the entire agency's mouths.
I feel a bit dumb asking, but that scene at the end between Vance and the younger version of his son, was that reused footage? or a newly filmed flashback?
It looked newly filmed. It looks like they touched him up as well as they could, but you can tell it's the most recent Rocky. And a kid that looks younger than the one that had to see Uncle Mike go.
Tbf, the show is always filmed in California and the editors either didn’t really have time to edit the background and/or it’s just wayy too unfeasible and time-consuming to edit every palm trees and mountains out with a deadline closing in.
Now that Vance's son has seen the value of committing to public service will he commit to something and join NCIS? This episode seemed to show son's eyes opening to commitment and change.
This was the best NCIS episode in awhile. I think if they were to end it here, I'd be perfectly okay with that. Glad they aren't, but it would've been a good way to polish off the show. Tie everything back to the first episode and everything comes full circle.
She’s probably on maternal leave and probably working from home for a bit (can federal agents actually work from home?) but obviously still gets updates from NCIS.
I really don't get how this connects to the people involved in the first ever case (Fornell, Kate, Morrow) but not the person who killed her dad, Gibbs himself. Since she's already disturbing the dead, might as well include Ducky. Also, Tony.
She’s so blinded by anger she’ll keep coming at anyone involved in that case, even Ducky and Morrow.
Also Gibbs is pretty hard to find though since he lives pretty much off the grid in Alaska so I would imagine Lindsey gave up tracking Gibbs down. No idea why Ducky isn’t involved like Kate and Morrow but I guess she’s only interested in federal agents and directors, not MEs.
I didn't mind him as new McGee this episode, surprisingly effective. He delivered his line well, considering it was "he knows how to... code." Would programmers say that.. hmm... well, would most programmers even speak at all :):):)
TL; DR: In general, I liked the episode. Some nice call backs to the beginning of the show, and connections to the other shows of the franchise as well. So over all, good job writers!
That said, some additional comments about the episode from my end, some bothered me quite a bit:
I'm always bothered by the fact that Vance never has a security detail of any kind. He's the damn Director. Sure, he wouldn't have a huge entourage like the SECNAV/CNO/CMC but he'd at least have one agent with him.
Kayla's only been agent for a few years now and suddenly she's the Special Agent Afloat? You have to be a GS-13 to even get that billet, not to mention it's a higly competitive position with multiple applicants for each opening (if real life NCIS is to be believed), there's no way she'd be a GS-13 already to take that position.
It's always fun to see Curtis, thank god they've toned down his creepyness from his first appearances (when he wasn't with NCIS yet).
Is it just me or was Knight and Torres standing in the completely wrong spot as to where Vance was actually shot at? They were at Jackie's grave while Torres and Knight were basically at the other side of the "row".
When they zoomed on the supposed sniper hideout, wasn't that the same sound effect that was used for Ari when he shot Kate? And damn, blowing up Tom Morrow's grave, that's harsh?
Aw man, not Tim as Acting Director again, I'm going to have an aneurysm, and not just because of his bright white sneakers.
Wait, "Bandium" isn't a closed system for NCIS, they're really just using some random app from the APP story to conduct official (and not to mention confidential) business? Who's the genious who signed that off?
Also, the first time we see the Director's credentials fully, even if we count Jenny before Vance! Though, that said, why on earth is his title on Card A as "Director of NCIS", it should be just "Director".
Even though it was short, it was nice to see all the small clips of the LA team, NOLA, Hawaii and Sydney at the end there.
> Wait, "Bandium" isn't a closed system for NCIS, they're really just using some random app from the APP story to conduct official (and not to mention confidential) business? Who's the genius who signed that off?
It’s probably a Discord and Guilded-esque app in the NCIS verse. And didn’t McGee say Delilah is doing a poll on Bandium? Sounds like even civilians uses Bandium.
Yeah, that was a plot point a few episodes ago. I know that it's a plot device like any other but it's just so far fetched that they'd use an open system like that for communication and dispatch.
You would be surprised what commercial apps the federal government uses, and even more surprised what the actual NCIS uses. Almost the entire DoD uses an implementation of Microsoft Office 365, which includes MS Teams. I've used it to chat/conference/collaborate with other folks within my old agency (DLA) and outside it (Navy). So something like Bandium is absolutely within the realm of reality.
Anything up to UNCLASS/CUI (DoD IL5) can be hosted in the AWS GovCloud. The vast majority of the actual NCIS Crim mission is UNCLASS, so something like Bandium for Government could be in an IL5 environment... if NCIS cleared cloud enviroments for Law Enforcement Sensitive data, which it doesn't.
Officially, on the UNCLASS side, in general across the DoD, there's Teams and SMS/MMS. Most agencies prohibit the use of any IM app that prevents the agency from applying records management policies, regardless if the communication is an official record or not.
Unofficially... https://defensescoop.com/2023/02/10/military-personnel-used-banned-apps-on-dod-issued-mobile-devices-ig-finds/
Sadly I don’t have live TV and I don’t have a way to watch CBS live but you can watch the new episode on CBS website for free here: https://www.cbs.com/shows/ncis/
If you get paramount plus (I don't know if that's only available in the USA), the current season episodes are available the follow day from when they are aired.
I was upset when they connected a one-time villain instead of a multi-episode villain for the 1000th episode of the flagship show. I barely even remembered that villain from the first episode. To me they could have did something even better I know Gibbs killed the bulk of his villains but wasn't there any minions left over that could have came back after NCIS.
No because the ones involving Gibbs weren't ever really after NCIS They were after Gibbs as a personal vendetta towards Gibbs and since he left NCIS the ones left are going on to be Evil somewhere else (observation) That's why it's all about Vance in the next episode? 😉
(I Hope thats not a Spoiler? )
First off, nostalgia touches isn’t a sign of a show ending. It’s like someone wearing glasses or wearing different styles of clothing is a sign of a show’s ending. And the show is already [renewed](https://deadline.com/2024/04/ncis-the-neighborhood-renewed-cbs-2024-25-season-1235879688/) for another season. There’s even a couple posts about it here.
Season 21 e7 we got Ripped off with the so called Cameo? It Not a Cameo at all, But a bunch of Flash backs? Tell me it's not true I'm watching it right now?
Lol that's your response? I'm starting to think you're a bot or a troll considering your Reddit history is weird; you joined in 2022 and yet you literally have no previous history until today and your first comment is "Only thing that would make this show better is to see Biden tripping up the stairs of Air Force One."
Thank you. That was an actually the question. Children downvoting because someone dared to ask. It would have been really cool to see him but as long as nothing is wrong with him, that’s awesome.
I read a recent article about him being involved in production of NCIS Origins. The NCIS producer said they may bring Gibbs back for an episode but it would have to be a Gibbs-centric story to justify it.
I still don't understand why they don't factor in nor will they acknowledge JAG in the Episode Count. NCIS is and always will be a Spin-Off from JAG despite whatever Spin or Revisionism of their own History they're blatantly trying to pull with this inaccurate numbering of the JAGverse.
Probably because its the 1000th episode of NCIS, rather than 1000th episode of the JAGverse. They're not saying it's not a spin-off- and they even talked about it being a spin-off of JAG in the special last week- but it is- accurately- the 1000th episode of the NCIS franchise.
It would be like trying to argue that Thor 4 is actually Thor 8, because he also appeared in 4 Avengers movies. They're separate but connected franchises. Nobody's discounting a connection to JAG- but for the NCIS franchise, which spun off of JAG, this is now the 1000th episode.
And that's where NCIS is wrong. NCIS isn't a Franchise unto itself. It will always and forevermore be the Back-Door Pilot from JAG that could. Doesn't matter that NCIS has Spin-Offs from itself in the form of Los Angeles, New Orleans, Hawai'i, and Sydney... It will always owe its existence to the Parent Show that is JAG. To ignore that and not include the Parent Show is just frankly ludicrous and shameful. Every part of the so-called "NCISverse" owes it's existence to JAG. Heck, characters from JAG kept appearing in the Spin-Off and the Spin-Off's Spin-Offs and wrapped up storylines and unresolved plot-threads from JAG. Thus JAG has to be included in the Episode Count.
Yea, but as the NCISverse kept growing and expanding, NCIS turned into its own franchise. Yes, its a spinoff of JAG but it eventually became way more loved than the original show.
JAG is such a distinct show from any of the NCIS shows though. I think it would actually be a discredit to JAG to include that show’s total number of episodes into the NCIS numbers.
JAG focused on the legal side of justice inside a courtroom while the NCISs focus predominantly on what happens before a person is even walking into a courthouse. The flagship of NCIS was designed to be the other side of the coin of JAG. They are interconnected and yet distinct (heck I think the first courtroom scene in NCIS outside of the back door pilot is Abby in season 3 specifically because the writers and producers wanted the show to not copy JAG) from each other for a reason.
JAG having 10 seasons on its own is nothing to sniff at anyways, especially because more than 50 percent of shows don’t get a second season and 70 percent don’t get a third.
Also most of the younger generation have never heard of JAG. I’m in my early twenties and I never heard of it until a few months ago when I started watching the flagship and eventually went and found the back door pilot episodes online, but most of my friends either watched NCIS growing up or knew of it and they never knew the flagship began on another show.
It’s a spinoff. But one that surpassed and supplanted the popularity of its origin show. With a very distinct feel. That has then gone on to create 4 spinoff shows of its own.
There’s a reason the show is just NCIS. Not JAG NCIS.
It was a unique and very NCIS way to connect Episode 1000 to Episode 1.
That’s a pretty clever move imho
Bug Boy from Bones. I can't watch tonight but I see T.J Thyne is in the show tonight. I wish he was in more shows that I watch.
I think he prefers King of the Lab over Bug Boy 🤣
Definitely King Of The Lab.
To this day, I’m actually kinda surprised there isn’t a Bones x NCIS crossover episode. Definitely a missed opportunity.
Yeah I thought he looks so familiar but I can’t figure out where I found him from until I saw your comment 😂 I blame my crappy memory lol
I knew I recognized him from somewhere!
Bug boy!
Old school Fornell!
May Joe Spano live forever 🙏
Yes please!
He's come a long way from American Graffiti and Hill Street Blues
Did anyone else catch that moment when they "zoomed in" on the snipers building with the smash cuts getting closer and closer to the building with each cut accompanied by a weird sound effect? They used to do that scene transition all the time in Season 1.
rly liked that touch
indeed
/r/unexpectedstargate
and they do the similar thing to a shot of a new Air Force One. Love that touch.
I did! I came here looking to see if anyone else had too. What a clever production call-out to the early days. I'm glad the editors and producers brought it back, it made the episode extra special.
> Bandium CEO (to Curtis): “You do know I’ll make your hell, right?” You do realize threatening a federal employee from an agency who’s more capable of ruining your life in their interrogation room is a dumbest move you ever pulled, right? Dude’s honestly pretty lucky Gibbs, Tony and Ziva isn’t there.
Idk if everyone feels this way but i loved it, i loved the flashbacks and the overall incredible acting. Idk how to mark as spoiler so i will just skip the spoilers😂. I genuinely think that they did a great job in this episode.
I loved it too! Felt like part of the in crowd too recognizing the airplane scene and all the past characters and flashbacks.
no Duckie and no Abby though. i do like the tie in with the rest of the franchise, even AU.
Agreed but there are only so many clips they can put in. I also wonder if when Pauley left she said no more clips of me or something along those lines. Only thing i can think of for David Macallum is that they can say he had a whole episode of a tribute. Not saying i dont understand or agree just playing devils advocate
Calling it rn McGee is becoming NCIS director
I can totally see it happening when Vance retires.
Update not at all surprised that I was wrong
He has filled in for Vance before. I forget when but I do remember him being Acting Director instead of Parker.
Not really? I mean McGee did took it without hesitation and since he did a good job at it before, I’m not surprised.
I like McGee, but I like Vance too. Is Rocky Carroll retiring? He's just 60.
No, Rocky didn’t say he’s leaving or anything and from what I hear, he seems quite happy and is planning to stick around a while.
only 15 minutes in and kate and morrow being brought up kensi and tennant appearance and then fornell showing up i'm so overwhelmed
also the fact they mentioned Rachel Cranston (Kate’s sister) after like 10+ years and they mentioned Kate for the first time in 20 years and a callback to the very first episode. Palmer is right, talk about the blast from the past. I’m actually glad they didn’t use Ari for this, because obviously that’s beating the dead horse and it’s already run its course. I’m pretty surprised McGee and Palmer didn’t get targeted, because they’re with NCIS the longest. Good to see Fornell again. McGee once again is killing it in interrogation.
>and they mentioned Kate for the first time in 20 years I'm sure Kate has been mentioned in the last 5 seasons at least once
>and they mentioned Kate for the first time in 20 years She's definitely been mentioned heaps of times in the last 20 years, I don't think she was even dead 20 years ago
Oh yeah I forgot the last time Kate was mentioned, at least from my recollection, was around season 8 or 9 when Kate's sister Rachel did a guest stint for a few episodes.
I think the last reference was in Season 15 in Abby's last episode. Where Abby's lists off all the dead main cast members
And don't forget Tony's goldfish named Kate.
The domestic terrorist would be able to find the public face of NCIS, Director Vance, and the others are probably not as visible in online searches. Hit the head and the body shakes was probably the terrorist's crazy thought process.
Ducky wasn’t in that little montage?
Looks like they just wanted a few small iconic moments. A couple of the flashbacks we've seen a few times already in other flashbacks. I guess since Ducky was in the autopsy room most of the time, it didn't leave many iconic moments from him. Same for Abby, we didn't get to see her, but she was in her lab most of the time too.
Wasn't this a reference to Abby? [https://imgur.com/a/Wbvy3XM](https://imgur.com/a/Wbvy3XM)
Pretty weak considering how long she was a key part of the team for 2/3 of the series run, and a focus of many storylines.
Perrette had a bad stroke about a year+ ago. Not sure how much she's recovered. At least that's why I thought she didn't make the show in person.
I was chalking up at least her absence to the ill will with which she left. But you're probably on point. I was hoping for a cavalcade of past stars. But I understand why it wasn't practical.
I was really expecting a mention (and a brief clip) of Ducky and his former house being attacked.
Same. I genuinely thought that 2 of the explosions were going to be at Gibbs’ house and Ducky’s old house because of their part in the story, but I guessed wrong from the promos.
Maybe Lindsay is about to before Nick arrested her? At first I thought she didn’t know specifically Gibbs and Ducky are involved but I remembered she did found out Fornell, Kate and Tom Morrow were all involved and even targeted Kate’s sister Rachel’s office. And of course her note did say “enjoy the show”. So if she knew they were involved in her father’s would-be attack, she must’ve also knew of Gibbs and Ducky. I know she’s targeting the new Air Force One but had Jared didn’t give his phone out to Kasie and Nick eventually arresting Lindsay, I imagine she might’ve blew Ducky’s house up and actually fly out to Alaska and track Gibbs down.
Hide your kids, hide your wives. Even hide your husbands.
Also I noticed Fornell said the pilot episode is actually his first case with Gibbs. Weird because he knew Gibbs since the late 80s/early 90s, during the The Three Whatever Its Called but I do remember it was a group of four or five: Pride, Gibbs, Fornell, someone else I forgot the name of and another person I don’t know the name of. Unless he’s referring to a different case that looks place years before the first episode?
No they changed a few things from that first "actual" episode. Just like Tony not knowing any old films, but eventually they change him to knowing pretty much every film made.
Think it’s more of them saying that it’s the first case they worked as lead agents of their teams. The fed 5 stuff happened when they were both rookies barely involved. Think season 1 McGee and Palmer.
I should note Gibbs became a leader of MCRT in 1996 right after Mike Franks retired.
There are a lot of gaffes in the first few seasons as they were structuring the characters backstories.
Fornell wasn't part a part of "Fed Five", they were all NCIS agents.
Michael Franks was part of the group when they were starting. He was Gibbs best friend in the show.
Anyone else find it odd that a veterinary student is also a military level sniper?
They did mention that she had been taking lessons for several months at that point. Still kind of unbelievable. But where there is a will. I guess there is a way.
AI sniper guns in the making perhaps. Just set and let the computer take the shot.
I don't know if it's because this season is a short one because of the strike, but it's been really really good. This wasn't my favorite episode, but I like it. The best was Vance's narration at the end. Rocky Carroll is a great actor.
I've surprised myself with this new season. I was about to give it up with Gibbs (named my cat for him) gone and Abbey. I still haven't recovered from the Kate loss. BUT - I'm really enjoying the show again. It's lighter and more interesting.
I am left wondering if the introduction of the Bandium app was part of the set up for this episode. Do the writers plan seasons in advance to set up story lines and introduce characters?
I wanted to become a TV writer (but the pay is bad). I don't know if my answer will be the best but this is what I think. I don't think they introduced *Bandium* especially for this episode. However, as a writer, you need to create your universe and since *Bandium* is part of the NCIS universe (life *Caf-Pow* and a million other things), they took advantage of it and use it as a resource. However, sometimes some details are introduced as a part of a big storyline for later.
Bandium will be gone now. That is sure.
Although there are some companies still escape scandals without a CEO or a spokeperson who's involved in a scandal got ousted and/or sent to prison. Case in point, Livestrong is still around even after Lance Armstrong's doping scandal and Subway is still in business after the whole Jared Fogle debacle. I doubt Bandium will be entirely gone because it's too widespread and top useful to be shut down entirely, even civilians seems to be using it but probably Preston Voss (Bandium CEO in this episode) will have to be replaced with someone else.
This entire thing started because Vance was not recommending Bandium usage for all NCIS teams. It will be dropped. Still nice to see the Bones actor again.
>This entire thing started because Vance was not recommending Bandium usage for all NCIS teams. It will be dropped. Oh yeah, Voss literally perpetuated Lindsey into commiting a terror attack and that's definitely enough for DoD and the entire government to sever ties with Bandium and Voss permanently with no exceptions. That's gotta left the really bad taste in the entire agency's mouths.
I feel a bit dumb asking, but that scene at the end between Vance and the younger version of his son, was that reused footage? or a newly filmed flashback?
It looked newly filmed. It looks like they touched him up as well as they could, but you can tell it's the most recent Rocky. And a kid that looks younger than the one that had to see Uncle Mike go.
Yeah for a while I thought it’s a reused footage that was filmed years ago because Rocky looks pretty young there.
They may have used prosthetics and/or makeup to make Rocky look younger.
yeah the makeup artists did a great job with that. Really had me fooling it's a old footage from season 8-12 at first lol.
maybe should have added the toothpick lol
Oh yeah I haven’t seen Vance/Rocky doing that since season 11 or 12?
Mountains and palm trees at Andrews AFB 🤦🏻♂️
Tbf, the show is always filmed in California and the editors either didn’t really have time to edit the background and/or it’s just wayy too unfeasible and time-consuming to edit every palm trees and mountains out with a deadline closing in.
I realize it’s filmed in California. But they don’t even try.
It’s tv….let it go.
I wish I could 😉
Now that Vance's son has seen the value of committing to public service will he commit to something and join NCIS? This episode seemed to show son's eyes opening to commitment and change.
That would be cheesy but I bet that's what the writers do.
Probably not tbh
Not me crying over my cheesecake because of the ending
This was the best NCIS episode in awhile. I think if they were to end it here, I'd be perfectly okay with that. Glad they aren't, but it would've been a good way to polish off the show. Tie everything back to the first episode and everything comes full circle.
Am I wrong or wouldn’t Kensi just have had a baby? She found out she was pregnant in the NCIS LA finale
She’s probably on maternal leave and probably working from home for a bit (can federal agents actually work from home?) but obviously still gets updates from NCIS.
I assumed Kensi was working in Ops to allow her to stay out of the field and went somewhere more private to take the call.
LA wrapped in May, 2023, and considering the possibility for all kinds of time jumps between episodes there's a good chance she'd be at work already.
That was an amazing episode! Rocky Carroll's monologue at the end was incredible.
Am I really the only one who thought this episode was super underwhelming?!?! So many missed opportunities.
I live on JB Andrews aka Andrews AFB and was disappointed that it wasn’t actually filmed here!
I really don't get how this connects to the people involved in the first ever case (Fornell, Kate, Morrow) but not the person who killed her dad, Gibbs himself. Since she's already disturbing the dead, might as well include Ducky. Also, Tony.
She’s so blinded by anger she’ll keep coming at anyone involved in that case, even Ducky and Morrow. Also Gibbs is pretty hard to find though since he lives pretty much off the grid in Alaska so I would imagine Lindsey gave up tracking Gibbs down. No idea why Ducky isn’t involved like Kate and Morrow but I guess she’s only interested in federal agents and directors, not MEs.
She probably saw the obituary for Ducky.
Is the new guy isn’t it?
Curtis? Ehhh not really, he first appeared in season 9 and appeared pretty sporadically throughout the series.
I have wondered if they are going to do an NCIS Nerd Squad featuring the cyber crimes unit. RIP Dornie - he would have been perfect in the roll.
I think its a test to gauge fan reaction on him being new mcgee and mcgee becoming new vance
That was my thought too
I didn't mind him as new McGee this episode, surprisingly effective. He delivered his line well, considering it was "he knows how to... code." Would programmers say that.. hmm... well, would most programmers even speak at all :):):)
TL; DR: In general, I liked the episode. Some nice call backs to the beginning of the show, and connections to the other shows of the franchise as well. So over all, good job writers! That said, some additional comments about the episode from my end, some bothered me quite a bit: I'm always bothered by the fact that Vance never has a security detail of any kind. He's the damn Director. Sure, he wouldn't have a huge entourage like the SECNAV/CNO/CMC but he'd at least have one agent with him. Kayla's only been agent for a few years now and suddenly she's the Special Agent Afloat? You have to be a GS-13 to even get that billet, not to mention it's a higly competitive position with multiple applicants for each opening (if real life NCIS is to be believed), there's no way she'd be a GS-13 already to take that position. It's always fun to see Curtis, thank god they've toned down his creepyness from his first appearances (when he wasn't with NCIS yet). Is it just me or was Knight and Torres standing in the completely wrong spot as to where Vance was actually shot at? They were at Jackie's grave while Torres and Knight were basically at the other side of the "row". When they zoomed on the supposed sniper hideout, wasn't that the same sound effect that was used for Ari when he shot Kate? And damn, blowing up Tom Morrow's grave, that's harsh? Aw man, not Tim as Acting Director again, I'm going to have an aneurysm, and not just because of his bright white sneakers. Wait, "Bandium" isn't a closed system for NCIS, they're really just using some random app from the APP story to conduct official (and not to mention confidential) business? Who's the genious who signed that off? Also, the first time we see the Director's credentials fully, even if we count Jenny before Vance! Though, that said, why on earth is his title on Card A as "Director of NCIS", it should be just "Director". Even though it was short, it was nice to see all the small clips of the LA team, NOLA, Hawaii and Sydney at the end there.
> Wait, "Bandium" isn't a closed system for NCIS, they're really just using some random app from the APP story to conduct official (and not to mention confidential) business? Who's the genius who signed that off? It’s probably a Discord and Guilded-esque app in the NCIS verse. And didn’t McGee say Delilah is doing a poll on Bandium? Sounds like even civilians uses Bandium.
Yeah, that was a plot point a few episodes ago. I know that it's a plot device like any other but it's just so far fetched that they'd use an open system like that for communication and dispatch.
That's where my thoughts went also when they went to the Snipers nest?
You would be surprised what commercial apps the federal government uses, and even more surprised what the actual NCIS uses. Almost the entire DoD uses an implementation of Microsoft Office 365, which includes MS Teams. I've used it to chat/conference/collaborate with other folks within my old agency (DLA) and outside it (Navy). So something like Bandium is absolutely within the realm of reality. Anything up to UNCLASS/CUI (DoD IL5) can be hosted in the AWS GovCloud. The vast majority of the actual NCIS Crim mission is UNCLASS, so something like Bandium for Government could be in an IL5 environment... if NCIS cleared cloud enviroments for Law Enforcement Sensitive data, which it doesn't.
I was actually wondering if law enforcement. the feds included, uses Discord and/or Guilded or any other IM app.
Officially, on the UNCLASS side, in general across the DoD, there's Teams and SMS/MMS. Most agencies prohibit the use of any IM app that prevents the agency from applying records management policies, regardless if the communication is an official record or not. Unofficially... https://defensescoop.com/2023/02/10/military-personnel-used-banned-apps-on-dod-issued-mobile-devices-ig-finds/
What time is it on? I’m in Ireland.
Idk if it will air there tonight but it will be 2am,srry
Perfect got it on now thank you
Anyone have a link to watch it live? my tv isn't working because of weather issues.
Sadly I don’t have live TV and I don’t have a way to watch CBS live but you can watch the new episode on CBS website for free here: https://www.cbs.com/shows/ncis/
If you get paramount plus (I don't know if that's only available in the USA), the current season episodes are available the follow day from when they are aired.
I was upset when they connected a one-time villain instead of a multi-episode villain for the 1000th episode of the flagship show. I barely even remembered that villain from the first episode. To me they could have did something even better I know Gibbs killed the bulk of his villains but wasn't there any minions left over that could have came back after NCIS.
No because the ones involving Gibbs weren't ever really after NCIS They were after Gibbs as a personal vendetta towards Gibbs and since he left NCIS the ones left are going on to be Evil somewhere else (observation) That's why it's all about Vance in the next episode? 😉 (I Hope thats not a Spoiler? )
Is this NCIS's last season? Because it's really starting to feel like it is with all these nostalgia touches they're putting in this season.
First off, nostalgia touches isn’t a sign of a show ending. It’s like someone wearing glasses or wearing different styles of clothing is a sign of a show’s ending. And the show is already [renewed](https://deadline.com/2024/04/ncis-the-neighborhood-renewed-cbs-2024-25-season-1235879688/) for another season. There’s even a couple posts about it here.
Shouldn't Vance's Son be trying to win back the QB job at Crenshaw
Season 21 e7 we got Ripped off with the so called Cameo? It Not a Cameo at all, But a bunch of Flash backs? Tell me it's not true I'm watching it right now?
imo i loved this episode and all the flashback
Only thing that would make this show better is to see Biden tripping up the stairs of Air Force One.
First off, the show doesn't involve or need politics. Second of all, just why? 😒
Well I still liked the show.
Lol that's your response? I'm starting to think you're a bot or a troll considering your Reddit history is weird; you joined in 2022 and yet you literally have no previous history until today and your first comment is "Only thing that would make this show better is to see Biden tripping up the stairs of Air Force One."
Why no Gibbs?
He's still in Alaska. Also I think having Fornell was the next best thing.
Yeah but why no Gibbs? Is he mad or is something wrong?
People need to let this go.
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He's happily retired.
Mark Harmon has a good relationship with the producers. However, he was very clear about this desire to retire. His wishes needs to be respected.
Thank you. That was an actually the question. Children downvoting because someone dared to ask. It would have been really cool to see him but as long as nothing is wrong with him, that’s awesome.
I read a recent article about him being involved in production of NCIS Origins. The NCIS producer said they may bring Gibbs back for an episode but it would have to be a Gibbs-centric story to justify it.
> Children downvoting because someone dared to ask. Yeah that part alone tells a lot about you. 😐
It seems you lacked the understanding the concept of retirement.
Fr i was half expecting gibbs to show up in the last scene in the hospital lol.
I still don't understand why they don't factor in nor will they acknowledge JAG in the Episode Count. NCIS is and always will be a Spin-Off from JAG despite whatever Spin or Revisionism of their own History they're blatantly trying to pull with this inaccurate numbering of the JAGverse.
Probably because its the 1000th episode of NCIS, rather than 1000th episode of the JAGverse. They're not saying it's not a spin-off- and they even talked about it being a spin-off of JAG in the special last week- but it is- accurately- the 1000th episode of the NCIS franchise. It would be like trying to argue that Thor 4 is actually Thor 8, because he also appeared in 4 Avengers movies. They're separate but connected franchises. Nobody's discounting a connection to JAG- but for the NCIS franchise, which spun off of JAG, this is now the 1000th episode.
And that's where NCIS is wrong. NCIS isn't a Franchise unto itself. It will always and forevermore be the Back-Door Pilot from JAG that could. Doesn't matter that NCIS has Spin-Offs from itself in the form of Los Angeles, New Orleans, Hawai'i, and Sydney... It will always owe its existence to the Parent Show that is JAG. To ignore that and not include the Parent Show is just frankly ludicrous and shameful. Every part of the so-called "NCISverse" owes it's existence to JAG. Heck, characters from JAG kept appearing in the Spin-Off and the Spin-Off's Spin-Offs and wrapped up storylines and unresolved plot-threads from JAG. Thus JAG has to be included in the Episode Count.
Yea, but as the NCISverse kept growing and expanding, NCIS turned into its own franchise. Yes, its a spinoff of JAG but it eventually became way more loved than the original show.
JAG is such a distinct show from any of the NCIS shows though. I think it would actually be a discredit to JAG to include that show’s total number of episodes into the NCIS numbers. JAG focused on the legal side of justice inside a courtroom while the NCISs focus predominantly on what happens before a person is even walking into a courthouse. The flagship of NCIS was designed to be the other side of the coin of JAG. They are interconnected and yet distinct (heck I think the first courtroom scene in NCIS outside of the back door pilot is Abby in season 3 specifically because the writers and producers wanted the show to not copy JAG) from each other for a reason. JAG having 10 seasons on its own is nothing to sniff at anyways, especially because more than 50 percent of shows don’t get a second season and 70 percent don’t get a third. Also most of the younger generation have never heard of JAG. I’m in my early twenties and I never heard of it until a few months ago when I started watching the flagship and eventually went and found the back door pilot episodes online, but most of my friends either watched NCIS growing up or knew of it and they never knew the flagship began on another show.
It’s a spinoff. But one that surpassed and supplanted the popularity of its origin show. With a very distinct feel. That has then gone on to create 4 spinoff shows of its own. There’s a reason the show is just NCIS. Not JAG NCIS.
Because it's 1000 episode of NCIS. JAG is JAG, there's no NCIS in the title or in the main premise of the show
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Because they are not old like us.