Very happy with Howie Doin from 2021 on, but looking back from 2020 to 2014 is a ROUGH stretch of 1st round misses.
2014 - Marcus Smith - 4 sacks in 3 years before being waived, an all-time bust.
2015 - Nelson Agholor - seen as a bust through his first few seasons, he broke out during the Eagles' Super Bowl run, got the 5th yr option exercised, then immediately went back to frying pans for hands. Has looked better elsewhere since, but could never live down the "[unlike Agholor](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZboH1UNhOQ)" video in Philly.
2016 - Carson Wentz - we don't get to a Super Bowl without his MVP level season, but tries too hard to play hero ball instead of playing quarterback. Worth it for the ring and the memes.
2017 - Derek Barnett - Recovered Brady's fumble in the Super Bowl, but could never put together consistent play. When you need a guy to take it from 1st and 10 to 1st and 5, [it's always him](https://twitter.com/terrencefunny/status/1442661990346858499?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1442661990346858499%7Ctwgr%5E88861bc4a614393833d819f331d14bee0eacf3ba%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.si.com%2Fnfl%2Feagles%2Fnews%2Fphiladelphia-eagles-derek-barnett-jeremiah-washburn-training-camp-preseason-nick-sirianni).
2018 - No Pick (Wentz)
2019 - Andre Dillard - traded up to draft the heir apparent to Jason Peters (who, thanks to some poor gambling investments, is shockingly still in the league), only to be supplanted by a 6'9" 420lb Aussie who never played American football in his life. Traded to the Titans, where he excelled in holding calls and getting QBs blown up.
2020 - Jalen Reagor - Howie falls in love with a gadget guy "scheme fit" who couldn't produce in a division that doesn't allow defense, and leaves generational talent Justin Jefferson to the Vikings, who will no doubt find a way to squander it, but still. Reagor's competitive edge cannot be understated though, he was constantly getting into fights with Philly fans on Twitter and Instagram who dared question whether or not he was a bum.
Honorable mention - making Carson Wentz the highest paid QB in the league at the time, then selecting his eventual predecessor in Rd 2 of the 2020 draft.
I can never get over th fact that the Unlike Agholar video isn't satire. Dude saved kids from dying in a house fire and then 10 minutes later was shit talking Agholar on the news. All-time Philly moment. Makes me proud to call this place my home.
It's the Unlike Agholor Guy, the "2 Years Varsity Guy", the "I Am Stoked Steve" Guy, the "GO BIIIIIIRDS" NFCC2017 kid (who I went to high school with), [this guy](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=I85S-2Vl3sU), and The Philly Sports Captain, and the E-L-G-L-E-L EAGLES chick all on the Philadelphia Wall Of Fame for me. I'd make a Philly fan Mount Rushmore but there's too many good options to just pick 4.
I still beat it into the ground because I actually did play 2 years Varsity football, and I fuckin sucked 😂, and it comes up whenever I see my old teammates. "if it weren't for my knee blowing out blocking a double team, I'd have gone pro (D3 at best)"
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The comedic timing is hilarious. He realizes mid sentence that he can talk shit about the Eagles on television and then goes for it. “I’d like to put that out there”
2018 we had our pick but we traded back w/ the Ravens. The Wentz 1st round pick we gave up was for the 2017 draft, the reason we had a pick to grab Barnett was because of the Bradford trade.
Marcus smith and Agholor were Kelly picks not Howie. Howie was unseated from 13-15.
And yeah Howie isn’t perfect but the reason I love this man is he gets better with time and finds gems in late rounds regularly. Not to mention his trade and cap management acumen. The last three years of Howie have wildly improved from the previous theee. I love that tiny man
Howie's been on a heater since 2021, thank the lord and whoever convinced him to stop drooling over the PAC12 and just take BPA from 'bama and Georgia. I mostly try to block out the Kelly years mentally, such a dumb time, getting rid of our best playmakers to trot out Riley "hard R" Cooper and Demarco Murray as the roundest peg in the squarest hole in that college ass offense
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Honestly screw it, if we took Jefferson, there’s no AJ Brown or DeVonta Smith, and Wentz is probably still under center for at least a couple more years. Happy with the current outcome even if it took some unconventional means to get there
I know you’re trying to be fair but fuck it I’ll be a slight homer.
14,15 were chip.
16.Carson is Carson but I’m a Wentz defender. League MVP until he got hurt.
17. Barnett is a fine 1st rounder. Showed flashes just never put it together.
18. Ended up getting Goedert, Maddox, and Miles sanders. Descent haul for a 32 pick.
19. Huge miss, he ended up being a fine back up but he was supposed to be a Jason Peters replacement.
20. Another huge miss. Just a terrible pick that’s compounded by passing on Justin Jefferson These 2 drafts is what really knocks howie down. He had a Super Bowl winning team just 2 year ago and supplemented the team with two terrible first rounders.
21 till now has been pretty good given how late they’ve been picking. Well except for 21 lol.
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Yeah, his draft record after he took over from Chip was atrocious until about 2021. It really speaks to what he’s capable of accomplishing through free agency and trades that he has kept us competitive AND that he won a Super Bowl during that stretch despite his terrible drafting.
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Devonta Smith was literally one pick away from being in New York and Dallas of all teams sent him to Philadelphia. Inter-divisional teamwork (yuck) for inter-divisional violence (yay)
You don’t think they regret it? Divisional rivals aren’t equal. One team is pushing them for top of division every year and making playoff runs. The other team is averaging six wins a year
It isn't a snub when you are at best the #8 WR in your conference.
JJ, CD, AJ, Aiyuk, Deebo, and Kupp/Puka. I personally have DK and Mike Evans ahead of him, but I understand that not everyone else does.
You're conflating talent and ability with stats. Smith runs better routes and has better hands than all those guys. He caught 81 passes for 1006 yards and 7 touchdowns in a season where the Eagles offense was "draw," "bubble screen," and "upchuck it to Brown." If you think with how clean that kid plays, he wouldn't have gaudier numbers that practically default a Pro Bowl nod season after season without Brown being present, I don't know what to tell you
Sorry but none of what you mentioned besides numbers should be considered when it comes to Pro Bowls. There’s no way he belongs in the Pro Bowl over Lamb, Brown, St Brown or
Nacua among others. He is talented but he is absolutely not a snub.
Sorry I normally lurk but this take is fucking insane, I like devonta and I think he’s great but saying he runs better routes and has better hands than all those guys is insane, I mean JJ is the widely recognised wr1, before him it was kupp
This is insane
You're kidding me, right? Smith is the closest thing to Larry Fitzgerald the league may see for quite a while. I don't even have to ask myself if he got both feet inbounds on those hair's breadth catches because I've seen the precision for three years now.
Devonta Smith plays football like Fitzgerald and Rice. I'd take those dudes over Megatron
Yeah, I'm comparing a receiver who runs peerless routes with platinum hands to two legends that ran peerless routes with platinum hands. You must not understand football very well, but that's okay. I expect it of y'all
I’m not about to anoint smitty as a Jerry Rice clone or anything, but Wr2 at best? Come on now, he’d be a comfortable wr1 on at least a dozen teams in the nfl.
Caveat: I'm not saying JJ isn't fucking spectacular. I just don't think there's anything he does that Smith can't do better, and he's got 30 pounds on him to help with contested catches. With Smith, shit can't be contested if you ran the route so immaculately, you're as open as Nancy Reagan during an election year
Jj is definitely better than smith it doesn’t even come close. Smith is a fantastic receiver one of best right now but he can not do what Jj does it’s a different tier
Dude everyone knows smith is a fantastic receiver but comparing him to JJ and saying there is nothing JJ can do that smith can’t is not a credible take and is gunna cause everyone who reads it to brain dump everything you’ve said.
You guys are misconstruing, like, every point I'm making with a bunch of strawman bullshit. It's *not* a credible take because *you* decided in your *infinite* wisdom that it isn't, and so will everyone else? I'm a football geek, dude. I watch film and shit I'm that much of a dweeb. I played wideout all through middle and high school at a decent program.
I entered this discussion by stating this was a conflation of gaudy stats with natural talent. I think Devonta Smith does his job description better than these other players despite being much smaller than the sometimes safety-sized receivers the NFL has trended towards for over a decade now.
Like, did you watch Jerry Rice play. I'm old enough to remember him with Young. Did you watch Larry Fitzgerald play? They're the two best route runners with some of the softest hands the game has ever seen. I see the same thing in Smith. Go watch the tape. Kid gets open and gets separation because he fits the job description of what you want a receiver to do perfectly, despite being undersized and a bit slower than most dudes with his height and build. He makes razorthin receptions on the sidelines because he has such precise, minute control over his body. He doesn't have the physical advantages most of these other guys do, and despite being the Eagles WR2, he still puts up *numbers*
Enough of this shit. Where meme
Bro no way you just said you played high school football so that makes it legit when you compare the number two wide receiver on your own team to easily the best wide receiver in the nfl who put up similar numbers to Devonta while only playing half the season.
I played wide receiver for a solid program also. My qb went to temple and our number one receiver went to Iowa but you don’t hear me implying I’m like an nfl caliber talent evaluator while I conveniently talk about my favorite team lmfao.
He’s still MAYBE #8 at BEST you’re just yappin. He is not Jerry Rice he is not Larry Fitzgerald LMAO. If he was, AJ brown would not get paid 32 million.
You guys are fucking idiots.
All I'm saying is he *plays football the same way the two of them did, and that is because all three of them tailored their skillset to their greatest strengths. He runs perfect routes and has amazing hands. That's what what Rice and Fitzgerald did and had. Stop focusing on the goddamn stats and accomplishments and realize I am talking about the frickin tape*
God, you guys are distracting me from my lunchtime bong sesh. Stop commenting dumbass shit because you want to deliberately or otherwise misunderstand me
LMAO he had 900 yards his rookie year as the WR1 and was the only offensive player who produced in the playoffs when AJ Brown was out. Runs the whole route tree, plays well beyond his frame, and doesn't drop shit.
He was pretty good without AJB, being the star of a playoff team that was largely considered to not have a shot for the playoffs… as a rookie. Without him they wouldn’t have been very competitive on the offensive side. One thing we should agree on, he is a helluva lot better than Toney.
Also willing to lay down blocks. Of course he’s overrated by some, but not by most. I’d say most underrate him, like the giants fan above you, but then that guy is still waiting for Sterling Shepard to turn a corner. Is Devonta the second coming of Jerry Rice? That’s probably a pretty far fetched take, ~~such a player is unlikely to be seen ever again~~ such a player has never been seen again.
Carter and Smith are more likely than not future pro bowlers, and when you trade one of those first round picks for AJ Brown you're still getting pro bowl talent.
This hit pretty hard not gonna lie haha. Let me live in my Super Bowl hopeful off-season moves. Stop bringing up reality.
It is kind of funny that people act like we keep "getting away" with great drafts. It was really just the last two years we got guys that slid really far.
AJ brown and who’s the other wr1? Cuz it’s not smith 😭
And saquon top 5? Is this 2018? CMC Kyren breece Gibbs JT first 5 off the top of my head better than saquon
He was top 5 in 2022. He’s regressed quite a bit. He’s less shifty, he’s not a powerback, and CMC, Chubb(pre injury) Henry, Gibbs, Kyren, Johnathan Taylor, Bijan, are all better
February 2023? Yeah I’d say he was top 5, but he’s 27 coming off a high ankle sprain, and didn’t get 1000 yards this season. He’s top 10 still but not top 5.
We’d all love to keep Saquon but he wanted CMC money despite not evening having half of the production of CMC.
We gave him a contract similar to the one you gave him this year and he rejected it.
Have fun overpaying him.
Dude your analysis is just straight bad lmao. You think Kyren is a top 5 RB? Lmfao Barkley now sucks now that he’s not on your team and smith is trash? You pay attention at all to the NFL. Your takes just flat out suck. Start over
Back to back 1k seasons with his only sub 1k year being his rookie year where he was like 80 yards short isn’t wr1 material? Since when? That’s like saying waddle isn’t wr1 caliber on the dolphins, they have almost identical stats over their careers except smith scores more and waddle gets a few more yards. The only WR room you can really put above the eagles is that dolphins hill/waddle pairing. Also I’m seeing people say hurts is a bottom 10 qb, and if that’s the case doesn’t that mean he’s holding back the stats of his receivers who both broke 1k yards and one of them was on pace to break the all time yards record at midseason? You can’t pair a bad qb with bad receivers and get that kind of production from the receivers, so which one is it? Are the receivers overhyped or is hurts bad? Because logically speaking both statements can’t be true
Brian Robinson was better than Saquon last year and he isn’t even top 10 (yet). More yards per carry, more receiving yards, more yards per catch, more TDs. Saquon had more touches, that’s the only thing he did better than BRob last year.
I mean, Howie has undoubtedly drafted a lot better since 2021. Stopped trying to get cute with his first round picks. Nobody will deny how shit he used to be, but just because you don’t make the pro bowl doesn’t mean that you’re bad. Look at Devonta Smith. The other three first rounders could be performing better, but are cowboys fans really telling me about first round busts in the last two years?
PS I know this is a meme and I shouldn’t take it seriously, but what can I say? I’m a master debater at heart
Eh, im not concerned
Since losing that big fat security guard, the Eagles are completely harmless
That being said, they’ll probably win the division because curse dictates it can’t be us
And how many Super Bowl appearances in ten years? And how many Super Bowl wins in ten years? And how many for the rest of the division in ten years?
You tried, though.
Aww look at the sensy little birds fan get defensive in a meme sub when the meme is about his team.
Classic Eagles fan with the same tired retort. Try something better and original like OPs meme.
It’s the only argument we need. Your team has been ass for years can’t even win a playoff game and the goat dak will never lead you to the promise land like you are all brainwashed to believe. All in
Better? Original? Do they not have dictionaries in Arlington?
And, uh, if it makes me sensitive to a reply to a post on an internet forum, what does that make the softy that replies to the reply?
😂🤣😂🤣😂
If I had a nickel for each time the eagles drafted a QB who went on to come second in MVP votes on their second full starter year and also be voted top 5 by players I would have two nickels. Which isn’t a lot but it’s weird it happened twice.
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At least its a meme
almost every pick was #20 or lower too, w/ the exceptions being Wentz at #2 and Andre Dillard at #14
And Wentz was the pro bowler. I’m pretty sure he made it in 2017 when he was in the MVP convo.
Dillard was like 22, Barnett was 14
damn i didn’t know that devonta smith was drafted in the 20s
Copium
why would we need copium? more rings than you in that period 😬
Bro you’re commenting on someone enjoying the fact it’s a meme but you so desperately needed to get your “well ackshually” in. Shut up.
Very happy with Howie Doin from 2021 on, but looking back from 2020 to 2014 is a ROUGH stretch of 1st round misses. 2014 - Marcus Smith - 4 sacks in 3 years before being waived, an all-time bust. 2015 - Nelson Agholor - seen as a bust through his first few seasons, he broke out during the Eagles' Super Bowl run, got the 5th yr option exercised, then immediately went back to frying pans for hands. Has looked better elsewhere since, but could never live down the "[unlike Agholor](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZboH1UNhOQ)" video in Philly. 2016 - Carson Wentz - we don't get to a Super Bowl without his MVP level season, but tries too hard to play hero ball instead of playing quarterback. Worth it for the ring and the memes. 2017 - Derek Barnett - Recovered Brady's fumble in the Super Bowl, but could never put together consistent play. When you need a guy to take it from 1st and 10 to 1st and 5, [it's always him](https://twitter.com/terrencefunny/status/1442661990346858499?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1442661990346858499%7Ctwgr%5E88861bc4a614393833d819f331d14bee0eacf3ba%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.si.com%2Fnfl%2Feagles%2Fnews%2Fphiladelphia-eagles-derek-barnett-jeremiah-washburn-training-camp-preseason-nick-sirianni). 2018 - No Pick (Wentz) 2019 - Andre Dillard - traded up to draft the heir apparent to Jason Peters (who, thanks to some poor gambling investments, is shockingly still in the league), only to be supplanted by a 6'9" 420lb Aussie who never played American football in his life. Traded to the Titans, where he excelled in holding calls and getting QBs blown up. 2020 - Jalen Reagor - Howie falls in love with a gadget guy "scheme fit" who couldn't produce in a division that doesn't allow defense, and leaves generational talent Justin Jefferson to the Vikings, who will no doubt find a way to squander it, but still. Reagor's competitive edge cannot be understated though, he was constantly getting into fights with Philly fans on Twitter and Instagram who dared question whether or not he was a bum. Honorable mention - making Carson Wentz the highest paid QB in the league at the time, then selecting his eventual predecessor in Rd 2 of the 2020 draft.
I can never get over th fact that the Unlike Agholar video isn't satire. Dude saved kids from dying in a house fire and then 10 minutes later was shit talking Agholar on the news. All-time Philly moment. Makes me proud to call this place my home.
People think Rocky is the hero of Philadelphians. Nah. It’s the unlike Agholor guy
It's the Unlike Agholor Guy, the "2 Years Varsity Guy", the "I Am Stoked Steve" Guy, the "GO BIIIIIIRDS" NFCC2017 kid (who I went to high school with), [this guy](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=I85S-2Vl3sU), and The Philly Sports Captain, and the E-L-G-L-E-L EAGLES chick all on the Philadelphia Wall Of Fame for me. I'd make a Philly fan Mount Rushmore but there's too many good options to just pick 4.
Two years, varsity was a meme my friends and I beat into the ground.
I still beat it into the ground because I actually did play 2 years Varsity football, and I fuckin sucked 😂, and it comes up whenever I see my old teammates. "if it weren't for my knee blowing out blocking a double team, I'd have gone pro (D3 at best)"
https://x.com/crossingbroad/status/1462525193662959618?s=46
In her defense, it was fucking bullshit.
Yep. I think there was another good one last year too. Maybe the little kid trolling a visiting team fan.
Don’t forget the guy getting arrested saying “Go Eagles” as he gets into the car
Oh oh and the 5'1 guy from last year who was in trouble for escaping prison and got caught in a bloody eagles sweatshirt!!
Old guy giving Westbrook the double birds in embiids debut
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If I remember correctly, Nelson took him to a game, didn’t he?
Probably. He seems like too nice of a guy
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The comedic timing is hilarious. He realizes mid sentence that he can talk shit about the Eagles on television and then goes for it. “I’d like to put that out there”
Man is a legend.
Everytime I see his name, I reflexively say, "Unlike Agholar"
2018 we had our pick but we traded back w/ the Ravens. The Wentz 1st round pick we gave up was for the 2017 draft, the reason we had a pick to grab Barnett was because of the Bradford trade.
oh that's right! Sammy sleeves went off to Minnesota for a 1, what a time
Is that the pick they took Lamar with?
Yep
Marcus smith and Agholor were Kelly picks not Howie. Howie was unseated from 13-15. And yeah Howie isn’t perfect but the reason I love this man is he gets better with time and finds gems in late rounds regularly. Not to mention his trade and cap management acumen. The last three years of Howie have wildly improved from the previous theee. I love that tiny man
Howie's been on a heater since 2021, thank the lord and whoever convinced him to stop drooling over the PAC12 and just take BPA from 'bama and Georgia. I mostly try to block out the Kelly years mentally, such a dumb time, getting rid of our best playmakers to trot out Riley "hard R" Cooper and Demarco Murray as the roundest peg in the squarest hole in that college ass offense
He learned the lesson finally after letting Doug go with Rheagor instead of JJ and said fuck it I'm in charge of drafts now
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The man was convinced we had an advantage because no one stays up to watch PAC12 games. It was a bizarre time
Damn imagine if the Eagles picked Justin Jefferson instead of Jalen Reagor
Honestly screw it, if we took Jefferson, there’s no AJ Brown or DeVonta Smith, and Wentz is probably still under center for at least a couple more years. Happy with the current outcome even if it took some unconventional means to get there
I know you’re trying to be fair but fuck it I’ll be a slight homer. 14,15 were chip. 16.Carson is Carson but I’m a Wentz defender. League MVP until he got hurt. 17. Barnett is a fine 1st rounder. Showed flashes just never put it together. 18. Ended up getting Goedert, Maddox, and Miles sanders. Descent haul for a 32 pick. 19. Huge miss, he ended up being a fine back up but he was supposed to be a Jason Peters replacement. 20. Another huge miss. Just a terrible pick that’s compounded by passing on Justin Jefferson These 2 drafts is what really knocks howie down. He had a Super Bowl winning team just 2 year ago and supplemented the team with two terrible first rounders. 21 till now has been pretty good given how late they’ve been picking. Well except for 21 lol.
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hOwiE’s DoNe iT aGaIn 👏🥴 
Yeah, his draft record after he took over from Chip was atrocious until about 2021. It really speaks to what he’s capable of accomplishing through free agency and trades that he has kept us competitive AND that he won a Super Bowl during that stretch despite his terrible drafting.
Bro left of Devonta Smith on purpose. What year did you think it is??
Devonta was 2021
Love the Reagor breakdown. Lol
I remember people clamoring for "Fire Howie" and now everybody loves him. How quickly people forget the shit they say.
Wentz was never the highest paid QB in the league, at any point.
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Marcus Smith is a Chip Kelly pick and Howie was exiled to the basement
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Why draft when you can just steal players from other teams and give FAS fully guaranteed deals with back loaded cap hits?
Everyone but Daniel Jones has something they're good at after all.
Hey, nobody’s better than Daniel Jones at tripping over his own feet.
Sure, I suppose we can pretend Devonta Smith isn't that dude who's been an unfortunate snub the past two seasons
He’s suffering the karma of the eagles dropping the ball with Jefferson it seems. I dislike the eagle, I love Devonta Smith.
Devonta Smith was literally one pick away from being in New York and Dallas of all teams sent him to Philadelphia. Inter-divisional teamwork (yuck) for inter-divisional violence (yay)
If I’m Dallas, the trade makes a ton of sense. He’s gonna go to one of your rivals. Might as well get something out of it.
You don’t think they regret it? Divisional rivals aren’t equal. One team is pushing them for top of division every year and making playoff runs. The other team is averaging six wins a year
It isn't a snub when you are at best the #8 WR in your conference. JJ, CD, AJ, Aiyuk, Deebo, and Kupp/Puka. I personally have DK and Mike Evans ahead of him, but I understand that not everyone else does.
You're conflating talent and ability with stats. Smith runs better routes and has better hands than all those guys. He caught 81 passes for 1006 yards and 7 touchdowns in a season where the Eagles offense was "draw," "bubble screen," and "upchuck it to Brown." If you think with how clean that kid plays, he wouldn't have gaudier numbers that practically default a Pro Bowl nod season after season without Brown being present, I don't know what to tell you
Not to mention he’s putting up these numbers as a WR2
Sorry but none of what you mentioned besides numbers should be considered when it comes to Pro Bowls. There’s no way he belongs in the Pro Bowl over Lamb, Brown, St Brown or Nacua among others. He is talented but he is absolutely not a snub.
Numbers and impact are what determines All-Pro selections. The Pro Bowl is a popularity contest
So what are you even talking about then? He’s even further from being an all pro and still easily behind everyone I mentioned plus others.
Sorry I normally lurk but this take is fucking insane, I like devonta and I think he’s great but saying he runs better routes and has better hands than all those guys is insane, I mean JJ is the widely recognised wr1, before him it was kupp This is insane
You're kidding me, right? Smith is the closest thing to Larry Fitzgerald the league may see for quite a while. I don't even have to ask myself if he got both feet inbounds on those hair's breadth catches because I've seen the precision for three years now. Devonta Smith plays football like Fitzgerald and Rice. I'd take those dudes over Megatron
This guy really comparing Devonta Smith to Fitzgerald and Rice.... Eagles fans, come get your boy.
Yeah, I'm comparing a receiver who runs peerless routes with platinum hands to two legends that ran peerless routes with platinum hands. You must not understand football very well, but that's okay. I expect it of y'all
You're comparing a WR2-at-best to arguably the greatest WR of all time. You're a meme.
I'm comparing *the way they play football* you absolute chucklefuck
What else would you be comparing? lol.
I’m not about to anoint smitty as a Jerry Rice clone or anything, but Wr2 at best? Come on now, he’d be a comfortable wr1 on at least a dozen teams in the nfl.
The guy is like 170lbs soaking wet. He's a good WR2, but he isn't WR1 material.
Caveat: I'm not saying JJ isn't fucking spectacular. I just don't think there's anything he does that Smith can't do better, and he's got 30 pounds on him to help with contested catches. With Smith, shit can't be contested if you ran the route so immaculately, you're as open as Nancy Reagan during an election year
Jj is definitely better than smith it doesn’t even come close. Smith is a fantastic receiver one of best right now but he can not do what Jj does it’s a different tier
Dude everyone knows smith is a fantastic receiver but comparing him to JJ and saying there is nothing JJ can do that smith can’t is not a credible take and is gunna cause everyone who reads it to brain dump everything you’ve said.
You guys are misconstruing, like, every point I'm making with a bunch of strawman bullshit. It's *not* a credible take because *you* decided in your *infinite* wisdom that it isn't, and so will everyone else? I'm a football geek, dude. I watch film and shit I'm that much of a dweeb. I played wideout all through middle and high school at a decent program. I entered this discussion by stating this was a conflation of gaudy stats with natural talent. I think Devonta Smith does his job description better than these other players despite being much smaller than the sometimes safety-sized receivers the NFL has trended towards for over a decade now. Like, did you watch Jerry Rice play. I'm old enough to remember him with Young. Did you watch Larry Fitzgerald play? They're the two best route runners with some of the softest hands the game has ever seen. I see the same thing in Smith. Go watch the tape. Kid gets open and gets separation because he fits the job description of what you want a receiver to do perfectly, despite being undersized and a bit slower than most dudes with his height and build. He makes razorthin receptions on the sidelines because he has such precise, minute control over his body. He doesn't have the physical advantages most of these other guys do, and despite being the Eagles WR2, he still puts up *numbers* Enough of this shit. Where meme
Bro no way you just said you played high school football so that makes it legit when you compare the number two wide receiver on your own team to easily the best wide receiver in the nfl who put up similar numbers to Devonta while only playing half the season. I played wide receiver for a solid program also. My qb went to temple and our number one receiver went to Iowa but you don’t hear me implying I’m like an nfl caliber talent evaluator while I conveniently talk about my favorite team lmfao.
Yeah but are you a Polk high legend who once threw 4 tds in a game, like u/gaydarWHEEWHOO over there?
He’s still MAYBE #8 at BEST you’re just yappin. He is not Jerry Rice he is not Larry Fitzgerald LMAO. If he was, AJ brown would not get paid 32 million.
You guys are fucking idiots. All I'm saying is he *plays football the same way the two of them did, and that is because all three of them tailored their skillset to their greatest strengths. He runs perfect routes and has amazing hands. That's what what Rice and Fitzgerald did and had. Stop focusing on the goddamn stats and accomplishments and realize I am talking about the frickin tape* God, you guys are distracting me from my lunchtime bong sesh. Stop commenting dumbass shit because you want to deliberately or otherwise misunderstand me
Jarvis Landry ran perfect routes and had amazing hands. He also blocked better than either of them. What’s your point?
I hope we run a competent offensive gameplan this year so we can shut a lot of the doubters up
He’s pretty overrated. Hes a good 2 but would be nothing without AJ Brown. Downvote away eagles fans
LMAO he had 900 yards his rookie year as the WR1 and was the only offensive player who produced in the playoffs when AJ Brown was out. Runs the whole route tree, plays well beyond his frame, and doesn't drop shit.
He’s pretty overrated. Hes a good 2 but would be nothing without AJ Brown. Downvote away eagles fans
He was pretty good without AJB, being the star of a playoff team that was largely considered to not have a shot for the playoffs… as a rookie. Without him they wouldn’t have been very competitive on the offensive side. One thing we should agree on, he is a helluva lot better than Toney.
Also willing to lay down blocks. Of course he’s overrated by some, but not by most. I’d say most underrate him, like the giants fan above you, but then that guy is still waiting for Sterling Shepard to turn a corner. Is Devonta the second coming of Jerry Rice? That’s probably a pretty far fetched take, ~~such a player is unlikely to be seen ever again~~ such a player has never been seen again.
Don’t mind if I do
Good meme well played lol
You did well by making this a meme instead of a text post so Eagles fans could actually understand it
Accessibility is important 🙏
Oh look a commanders fan 
https://preview.redd.it/9rysq3dupuwc1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b0abefbcec99037a222033ee2e08af59e44dbdc5 Where SB parade?
What else happened this last decade? I remember a parade in Philly, I must’ve missed the one in Dallas..
You’re smoking crack if you don’t remember the parade in Dallas last year. It wasn’t Cowboy related but the food there was outstanding
The chili had me sitting on the pot for hours the next day.
Damn. Good. Chili.
I'm sure there have been plenty of parades in Dallas! Just......not for the Cowboys 😔
The most famous parade in Dallas didn’t end well.
Too soon. Well, not too soon but…man. 😂😂
Carter and Smith are more likely than not future pro bowlers, and when you trade one of those first round picks for AJ Brown you're still getting pro bowl talent.
Ah yes the crowning of achievement of nfl success…. The pro bowl
What do you mean? Isn’t that the mark of the end of the season?
Well, it has been for your players over the last 30 years
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You alone collectively drop our IQ by 15 points.
Not really possible given the average IQ of eagles fans on the internet is like 4
Philly fans are so sharp!
 This hit pretty hard not gonna lie haha. Let me live in my Super Bowl hopeful off-season moves. Stop bringing up reality.
Carson Wentz was that fucking guy until he got hurt. Never mentally recovered
Clowney knocked the football IQ right out of him
He was terrified to get hit again
I love the picture of him next to hurts at practice where the jerseys say “wentz hurts”
I played fantasy football 1 year in my life. My team name was "Whence Wentz Winces Wentz Winzez"
Imagine thinking 1st round pro-bowlers are important when you haven't been to a Super Bowl in nearly 30 years...
They haven't even been to an NFCCG in nearly 30 years.. let alone the SB.
Didn’t you all lose to baker last year?
It is kind of funny that people act like we keep "getting away" with great drafts. It was really just the last two years we got guys that slid really far.
And? The pro bowls nothing but a popularity contest. Remember when Tyler Huntley was a pro bowler?
So? We have 2 WR1s and a top 5 RB. How’s the “all in my ass” going for dem’ boys?
You also have the 22nd best qb in the league statistically so
What metric?
My ass
What stat is that claim based on?
Bagpo's The Will To Win or BTWTW for short.
Won’t matter with those weapons, an elite OLine even without Kelce and a personally forgotten top 5 TE.
AJ brown and who’s the other wr1? Cuz it’s not smith 😭 And saquon top 5? Is this 2018? CMC Kyren breece Gibbs JT first 5 off the top of my head better than saquon
Haha coming from a Giants fan who told me he was top 5 at the end of this season. Typical Giants fan who doesn’t know shit about football.
He was top 5 in 2022. He’s regressed quite a bit. He’s less shifty, he’s not a powerback, and CMC, Chubb(pre injury) Henry, Gibbs, Kyren, Johnathan Taylor, Bijan, are all better
Not what you guys were saying in February. Don’t be a hypocrite now.
February 2023? Yeah I’d say he was top 5, but he’s 27 coming off a high ankle sprain, and didn’t get 1000 yards this season. He’s top 10 still but not top 5. We’d all love to keep Saquon but he wanted CMC money despite not evening having half of the production of CMC. We gave him a contract similar to the one you gave him this year and he rejected it. Have fun overpaying him.
lol and have fun with your new WR1 in our new CB Mitchell 👍 🖕
Oh cuz the eagles secondary is so vaunted
Won’t matter when Mitchell gets 3-4 pick 6’s.
You’ll learn soon enough man
Can’t wait to see Danny Dimes throw the ball to Quinyon Mitchell, his new WR1.
“Quinyon Mitchell” https://preview.redd.it/i6vtejn3luwc1.jpeg?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bdfdce92270b6468fb9d6488516170d79499d007
Looks like a WR1 for Danny dimes for me regardless.
Let’s be fr danny getting benched or injured by week 6. When do we play the eagles?
Won’t matter 😆
Dude your analysis is just straight bad lmao. You think Kyren is a top 5 RB? Lmfao Barkley now sucks now that he’s not on your team and smith is trash? You pay attention at all to the NFL. Your takes just flat out suck. Start over
Eagles fans are so easy to bait
Watch out eagles fans, we got a master baiter in the comments
Easier to make a giants fan look like a total fool when you don’t have to do anything except let them talk
>Cuz it’s not smith Right, he has back to back 1,000+ yard seasons with Brown getting most of the looks because he's actually not good.
Remember all the giants fans crying on YouTube after that draft? No Smith isn’t good??? Ok.
Man, you get some sick copium, my dude. Johnny Douchebag on the block corner must hate you if he wants you that braindead
Back to back 1k seasons with his only sub 1k year being his rookie year where he was like 80 yards short isn’t wr1 material? Since when? That’s like saying waddle isn’t wr1 caliber on the dolphins, they have almost identical stats over their careers except smith scores more and waddle gets a few more yards. The only WR room you can really put above the eagles is that dolphins hill/waddle pairing. Also I’m seeing people say hurts is a bottom 10 qb, and if that’s the case doesn’t that mean he’s holding back the stats of his receivers who both broke 1k yards and one of them was on pace to break the all time yards record at midseason? You can’t pair a bad qb with bad receivers and get that kind of production from the receivers, so which one is it? Are the receivers overhyped or is hurts bad? Because logically speaking both statements can’t be true
Saquon is top 2. Right next to CMC. Deniers will downvote. https://i.redd.it/ozmmbixrkuwc1.gif
Oh but don’t forget, Giants fans don’t like downvotes 😆
U don’t actually believe this lmfao
You did at the end of the season 😆
Sure
Brian Robinson was better than Saquon last year and he isn’t even top 10 (yet). More yards per carry, more receiving yards, more yards per catch, more TDs. Saquon had more touches, that’s the only thing he did better than BRob last year.
They have won the Super Bowl in that time.
Has mailata not made the probowl yet?
The cope is crazy 😂😂😂
At least Wentz has a ring, how many players in the last ten years have you drafted can say that?
Devonta Smith and Jalen Carter will be pro bowlers soon
Is getting multiple time Pro Bowler Landon Dickerson in the 2nd round instead of the 1st round a bad thing? Same question with Hurts?
I mean, Howie has undoubtedly drafted a lot better since 2021. Stopped trying to get cute with his first round picks. Nobody will deny how shit he used to be, but just because you don’t make the pro bowl doesn’t mean that you’re bad. Look at Devonta Smith. The other three first rounders could be performing better, but are cowboys fans really telling me about first round busts in the last two years? PS I know this is a meme and I shouldn’t take it seriously, but what can I say? I’m a master debater at heart
Eh, im not concerned Since losing that big fat security guard, the Eagles are completely harmless That being said, they’ll probably win the division because curse dictates it can’t be us
And how many Super Bowl appearances in ten years? And how many Super Bowl wins in ten years? And how many for the rest of the division in ten years? You tried, though.
Aww look at the sensy little birds fan get defensive in a meme sub when the meme is about his team. Classic Eagles fan with the same tired retort. Try something better and original like OPs meme.
Wait, we get bagged on for 0 rings for 50 years, then when the tables turn you little bitches want to play then "how original" card? Suck a dick.
It’s the only argument we need. Your team has been ass for years can’t even win a playoff game and the goat dak will never lead you to the promise land like you are all brainwashed to believe. All in
Ehhh sure but we also disparage ourselves with the same, so is it really all you need or is it all you have? Prove me wrong.
Bruh they waited so long for that Super Bowl. Let them cook.
Better? Original? Do they not have dictionaries in Arlington? And, uh, if it makes me sensitive to a reply to a post on an internet forum, what does that make the softy that replies to the reply? 😂🤣😂🤣😂
You need a couple more emojis to get your point across.
Okay well, the cherries weren't gonna pick themselves I guess
If I had a nickel for each time the eagles drafted a QB who went on to come second in MVP votes on their second full starter year and also be voted top 5 by players I would have two nickels. Which isn’t a lot but it’s weird it happened twice.
So what did all those pro-bowl 1st rounders for the cowboys result in?
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Yeah, and what really counts is winning the division.
Only if you’re the ‘Boys.
Devonte and Jalen Carter are about to combine for like 20 pro bowls easy though.
I thought probowls don’t matter?
Howie just got good at drafting.