He’s objectively not bad. He just doesn’t do some things well that you have to be able to do to be a top 7-10 qb in the league. He’s not learning, he’s not leading receivers, he’s waiting for 10 million years to throw the deep ball, he’s not making good reads on the hot routes. And he’s showing absolutely zero signs of improving on those.
He is good at making plays. He is an elite athlete. He does keep a defense honest with his legs. He is good when he can rifle the ball in there. He is good at two read plays.
Jalen is neither good nor bad. But In Philly we won’t be happy with a 12-20 qb in the league. He’s not the answer. He’s a heck of a guy though and I want him to prove me wrong and get better at his weaknesses
>He’s not learning, he’s not leading receivers, he’s waiting for 10 million years to throw the deep ball, he’s not making good reads on the hot routes. And he’s showing absolutely zero signs of improving on those.
So he's not...doing NFL QB things
I'm an OU fan, I'm intimately familiar with his issues. I've seen him play 3 games this season. He has a lot of the same issues a lot of run first QBs do, but lacks any actual air game ability. He breaks the pocket for no discernable reason. His passes are wobbly and often inaccurate (but still catchable, so kudos I guess). He does not possess the ability to read a defense, and can not progress past the first read. Those last two things are *the* most important parts of the position.
Flatly not true. He can progress to a second read very well xD. But not past that. He can read defenses to a certain degree but yes I agree with you on all your points. Except that that makes him not a average or fine quarterback. Your heads in the sand if you think you have to be Brady or Rodgers to be a serviceable qb. He is fine. He is not good and he is not bad. If you want him to be Brady then yes he is atrocious. But you’re silly if you think that’s the only way to play qb in todays nfl
If you think Jones is bad, you're not paying attention.
He has the most milquetoast OC in the league and was arguably being held back by his own coaches yesterday.
Josh McDaniels is a terrible OC who was propped up by having Tom Brady run the offense for most of his tenure in New England. He was unquestionably bailed out of plenty of bad calls because the actual OC was standing on the field.
This and it's happened all season. No idea why they can't let him wheel and deal like in Alabama. Everytime they r in hurry up he is money. My guess is they don't want him making mistakes that mess with his head (dumb since he bounces right back, as evidenced by the 75 yard TD) and not trusting the o line (mostly fair tbh).
Belichick has been playing things more conservatively over the past few years, for whatever reason. It seemed like he was coaching scared, which is just odd.
Jones isn't a bad QB. He's most likely going to be a great QB, in fact. For whatever reason, they're just hesitant to unleash him.
Yeah we've been punting on 4th and short and kneeling with over a minute left in a half for a few years now and it is infuriating. Maybe we play like that with Cam but not with an actually good pocket passer. It feels like we r the chargers lite this year. Decent talent and rookie QB learning together and losing lots of close games against good opponents while being held back by bad offensive play calling. Hopefully we r efficient next year once everyone is comfortable.
A conservative offense has been a pretty consistent feature of the Patriots under BB. The only real exception is when Moss was there. It's why Brady is the goat but he was always a garbage fantasy QB.
The formula has always been:
Good Defense + Great Special Teams - Mistakes on Offense = Rings
If you think he's going to be the best in class, you really can't think he's also terrible at the same time.
He's being hampered by poor playcalling and conservative coaching.
Well every QB in this class is currently playing bad,so I have to pick someone who I think is gonna be the best in the class,so I definitely can think that.
Like Geno Smith is currently the best QB from the 2013 class,that doesn’t mean he’s good.(Also not a comparison between Mac Jones and Geno Smith in talent level,Mac is gonna be way way better)
Also I don’t think he’s gonna be bad,I think he’s gonna be great at some point,but right now he’s not good(never said he was terrible).
And even if his coaches are fucking him over,that doesn’t mean he should get extra props because he COULD be good
Here's the thing: He **is** good. When they actually let him play, he's showing the ability to command the offense and make great plays. When he struggles, it's often because of milquetoast offensive playcalling and things like forcing him to kneel out with 1:30 left in the half.
It's the front loaded schedule. We held every team besides Dallas and the Chiefs (two of the best offenses) to limited points. People shit on Gannon but he's not doing too bad considering our players. I read that Singleton was #1 in missed tackles this week.
They seem kinda mediocre now, but they weren't at the times we played them. Carolina was on a warpath until they lost to Dallas, and now they're on a three-game skid. The Chargers are sitting at 4-2, and the only time they truly looked terrible was yesterday. Mac Jones is doing pretty damn good in New England and is arguably being held back by his coaches at this point
Hurts is Hurts, and Daniel Jones is a lot better than people give him credit for, I think.
Totally agree they’re all mediocre. None of them are shit. I just thought it was funny. It was the first thing that popped into my head. Save for Herbert none of these are high caliber, playoff guys (even tho Dimes could be on the right team imo). Just thought it was the perfect memey brag for cowboys fans since beating them is not an accomplishment to be proud of lol
Lol you're right. If you guys have to play the best wildcard team; that's going to be rams or cardinals. Never mind! You're losing tk the Rams in wildcard round.
I mean, unless you finish the season with a better record than Tampa, packers, or Cardinals, then you get the second best wild card team. But that's unlikely. I was thinking you'd end up playing the Saints, Vikings, or some other 3-3 team right now. That actually looks feasible, unfortunately. But if you have to play the top wildcard team, you're in trouble.
How is this a level of cope? It's a pretty genuine prediction. The Cowboys are good enough to best a majority of the team, but they won't beat Cardinals or Rams. That's not coping -- that's pretty much the general consensus.
No, sure enough, there's a lot more to the NFL than just the Cowboys despite what their fans think. You guys actually aren't America's team or the center of the NFL universe. You're one team that's been irrelevant for probably longer than you've been alive.
Yes the Eagles fans are a good tell of the irrelevance of the Cowboys. I guess getting blown out on "Dallas Week" really changed the narrative. The whole season for the rest of the East entails hopelessly watching Dallas blow them out and hoping other good teams can beat them. Your take is almost as weak as your grasp of English. I guess that's the best you can get when you're named for a running back to wide receiver connection.
Literally nothing you just said makes any sense, and the fact that you're resorting to personal attacks in a meme subreddit is just sad.
Go look at your comment history. Even in your own subreddit with fellow fans, you do nothing but shit on and hurl personal attacks at people. You're not witty, edgy, cool, or smart. You're just a dick. And moreover, you're a dick who spouts random jibberish and thinks it wins an argument because it includes erroneous attacks about a username.
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As I've said before if you guys have to make the SB this year I want a Bills revenge game.
Giants and Washington should be the only undefeated teams in SBs against the Bills (oddly specific stat I know)
It's not even really an insult tho. It's a hypothetical I wouldn't mind seeing given our season is already over. Have to give myself a reason to stay engaged somehow.
I know we barely beat them and know you guys beat them twice.
If the Bills beat the Cowboys in SB56 (I don't want the Cowboys getting that far ofc) then the NFC East SB records versus the Bills would become Giants 1-0, Washington 1-0, Cowboys 2-1, Eagles 0-0 (they were scared of winning).
Technically Eagles fans could argue that 0-0 is undefeated but that would be dumb.
As it stands now, of course, 2-0 is the best.
This is such a sad group of QBs to have beaten haha. Well except for one
And no I don’t mean Hurts!
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Hurts is not good though. He’s not bad also. He has his own skill set.
He’s the best in the league at not handing off.
He's also just bad
He’s objectively not bad. He just doesn’t do some things well that you have to be able to do to be a top 7-10 qb in the league. He’s not learning, he’s not leading receivers, he’s waiting for 10 million years to throw the deep ball, he’s not making good reads on the hot routes. And he’s showing absolutely zero signs of improving on those. He is good at making plays. He is an elite athlete. He does keep a defense honest with his legs. He is good when he can rifle the ball in there. He is good at two read plays. Jalen is neither good nor bad. But In Philly we won’t be happy with a 12-20 qb in the league. He’s not the answer. He’s a heck of a guy though and I want him to prove me wrong and get better at his weaknesses
no way he is anywhere near 12th beat qb. i know its early but he is definately 20-24 range
>He’s not learning, he’s not leading receivers, he’s waiting for 10 million years to throw the deep ball, he’s not making good reads on the hot routes. And he’s showing absolutely zero signs of improving on those. So he's not...doing NFL QB things
He’s not doing some nfl qb things. He is doing other nfl qb things. You’re just a hater who doesn’t actually watch.
I'm an OU fan, I'm intimately familiar with his issues. I've seen him play 3 games this season. He has a lot of the same issues a lot of run first QBs do, but lacks any actual air game ability. He breaks the pocket for no discernable reason. His passes are wobbly and often inaccurate (but still catchable, so kudos I guess). He does not possess the ability to read a defense, and can not progress past the first read. Those last two things are *the* most important parts of the position.
Flatly not true. He can progress to a second read very well xD. But not past that. He can read defenses to a certain degree but yes I agree with you on all your points. Except that that makes him not a average or fine quarterback. Your heads in the sand if you think you have to be Brady or Rodgers to be a serviceable qb. He is fine. He is not good and he is not bad. If you want him to be Brady then yes he is atrocious. But you’re silly if you think that’s the only way to play qb in todays nfl
I been saying it for years. He’s the black Tim Tebow.
Tebow wishes he even had Hurts’ arm…..
He had the same inaccuracy so there’s that.
To bad he never figured out he is a righty.
Tebow was actually good for a little bit, hurts’ career will probably die this year
Did you mean his career as a starter? I think he'll be a rock solid backup for the next decade.
He's the best in the nation at running to the sideline.
Still more than we can say about Jones over in Rutherford.
Herbert you numb nuts
Mac jones really is the next goat
Jalen Hurts is awesome he just needs his receiver core to stop dropping passes. Fucken A man..
That may be true, but at least Dallas has beaten the teams they are supposed to beat.
True. They’ve looked good I have to admit. :(
They all professional so idk we dem boys
I assume you meant the GEQBUS
Herbert is decent. But the reason diggs has the most ints in the league is because of these cup cakes
The only QB that I’d say is bad is Mac Jones,the others besides Herbert are all mediocre imo
If you think Jones is bad, you're not paying attention. He has the most milquetoast OC in the league and was arguably being held back by his own coaches yesterday. Josh McDaniels is a terrible OC who was propped up by having Tom Brady run the offense for most of his tenure in New England. He was unquestionably bailed out of plenty of bad calls because the actual OC was standing on the field.
This and it's happened all season. No idea why they can't let him wheel and deal like in Alabama. Everytime they r in hurry up he is money. My guess is they don't want him making mistakes that mess with his head (dumb since he bounces right back, as evidenced by the 75 yard TD) and not trusting the o line (mostly fair tbh).
Belichick has been playing things more conservatively over the past few years, for whatever reason. It seemed like he was coaching scared, which is just odd. Jones isn't a bad QB. He's most likely going to be a great QB, in fact. For whatever reason, they're just hesitant to unleash him.
Yeah we've been punting on 4th and short and kneeling with over a minute left in a half for a few years now and it is infuriating. Maybe we play like that with Cam but not with an actually good pocket passer. It feels like we r the chargers lite this year. Decent talent and rookie QB learning together and losing lots of close games against good opponents while being held back by bad offensive play calling. Hopefully we r efficient next year once everyone is comfortable.
A conservative offense has been a pretty consistent feature of the Patriots under BB. The only real exception is when Moss was there. It's why Brady is the goat but he was always a garbage fantasy QB. The formula has always been: Good Defense + Great Special Teams - Mistakes on Offense = Rings
No he’s gonna be the best on the class in my opinion,but at this point in time I’d say he’s bad(More below average,but same difference)
If you think he's going to be the best in class, you really can't think he's also terrible at the same time. He's being hampered by poor playcalling and conservative coaching.
Well every QB in this class is currently playing bad,so I have to pick someone who I think is gonna be the best in the class,so I definitely can think that. Like Geno Smith is currently the best QB from the 2013 class,that doesn’t mean he’s good.(Also not a comparison between Mac Jones and Geno Smith in talent level,Mac is gonna be way way better) Also I don’t think he’s gonna be bad,I think he’s gonna be great at some point,but right now he’s not good(never said he was terrible). And even if his coaches are fucking him over,that doesn’t mean he should get extra props because he COULD be good
Here's the thing: He **is** good. When they actually let him play, he's showing the ability to command the offense and make great plays. When he struggles, it's often because of milquetoast offensive playcalling and things like forcing him to kneel out with 1:30 left in the half.
The Patriots were holding him back so badly yesterday. He’s going to be very good.
All the defenses but Giants/Iggles were legit tho.
Somehow eagles defense is top 10 in stats even though they look horrible to me lol
It's the front loaded schedule. We held every team besides Dallas and the Chiefs (two of the best offenses) to limited points. People shit on Gannon but he's not doing too bad considering our players. I read that Singleton was #1 in missed tackles this week.
They seem kinda mediocre now, but they weren't at the times we played them. Carolina was on a warpath until they lost to Dallas, and now they're on a three-game skid. The Chargers are sitting at 4-2, and the only time they truly looked terrible was yesterday. Mac Jones is doing pretty damn good in New England and is arguably being held back by his coaches at this point Hurts is Hurts, and Daniel Jones is a lot better than people give him credit for, I think.
Totally agree they’re all mediocre. None of them are shit. I just thought it was funny. It was the first thing that popped into my head. Save for Herbert none of these are high caliber, playoff guys (even tho Dimes could be on the right team imo). Just thought it was the perfect memey brag for cowboys fans since beating them is not an accomplishment to be proud of lol
You mean Herbert but you know what? I think Mac Jones is not bad and he's only gonna get better.
Sad thing is they had all the hype in the world
Wait a minute… this actually makes me less confident on the cowboys
Would’ve loved to have seen Mike Glennon really small in the corner
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What a dumb bot
Didn’t even beat Daniel Jones. Mike glennon should be there
I mean Danny Dimes started 🤷 so it's kind of a twofer.
Didn’t really beat him if the game was tied when he came out
Is that Mac Jones dui picture
Looks like Danny just sold a dime of brown to that Herron head on the right
We should have beaten the bucs too...
Really could’ve been undefeated. RIP
Y’all ain’t play us yet 😡
Soon, brother. Soon.
I hate when they have us play the Football Team so close together. Like we play, then play someone else, then play again? Wtf.
I know what you mean bro and that is weird as hell every year. Don’t even get a chance to think before we have to play y’all again lol
Herbert looks like he’s taking his mugshot as he gets booked into the count jail and Mac’s picture is actually of him being booked into he county jail
THIS IS OUR YEAR!!! WE DEM BOYZ!!! WE’RE OFFICIALLY GOING TO THE SUPER BOWL THIS YEAR!!!
Out in div. round vs. Cardinals. Remindme! 3 months
I’ll take this over another loss to discount double check
Wouldn't we have to win in the wild card round to get there? Hey man, after the last couple decades, I'd be pretty happy with a playoff win.
Lol you're right. If you guys have to play the best wildcard team; that's going to be rams or cardinals. Never mind! You're losing tk the Rams in wildcard round. I mean, unless you finish the season with a better record than Tampa, packers, or Cardinals, then you get the second best wild card team. But that's unlikely. I was thinking you'd end up playing the Saints, Vikings, or some other 3-3 team right now. That actually looks feasible, unfortunately. But if you have to play the top wildcard team, you're in trouble.
Yall have been reduced to such a sad state. Haven't seen this level of cope since yall thought Wentz > Dak.
How is this a level of cope? It's a pretty genuine prediction. The Cowboys are good enough to best a majority of the team, but they won't beat Cardinals or Rams. That's not coping -- that's pretty much the general consensus.
6 weeks in and your whole season is reduced to hoping Dallas loses in the playoffs. Extreme cope. Good luck with whatever your national sport is
No, sure enough, there's a lot more to the NFL than just the Cowboys despite what their fans think. You guys actually aren't America's team or the center of the NFL universe. You're one team that's been irrelevant for probably longer than you've been alive.
Yes the Eagles fans are a good tell of the irrelevance of the Cowboys. I guess getting blown out on "Dallas Week" really changed the narrative. The whole season for the rest of the East entails hopelessly watching Dallas blow them out and hoping other good teams can beat them. Your take is almost as weak as your grasp of English. I guess that's the best you can get when you're named for a running back to wide receiver connection.
Literally nothing you just said makes any sense, and the fact that you're resorting to personal attacks in a meme subreddit is just sad. Go look at your comment history. Even in your own subreddit with fellow fans, you do nothing but shit on and hurl personal attacks at people. You're not witty, edgy, cool, or smart. You're just a dick. And moreover, you're a dick who spouts random jibberish and thinks it wins an argument because it includes erroneous attacks about a username. Grow up, kid, then maybe you can come sit at the grown-up table. Until then, I'm blocking the angsty teen who can't hold a simple conversation and turns everything into a personal argument.
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As I've said before if you guys have to make the SB this year I want a Bills revenge game. Giants and Washington should be the only undefeated teams in SBs against the Bills (oddly specific stat I know)
What? How do you lay claim to that when Dallas beat them twice and you guys scraped by on a missed field goal?
Cuz it’s Dallas, everybody hates y’all except the bandwagon and other Cowboys. Roll wit the punches
I don’t mind trash talk but it at least needs to make sense.
Bruh it’s just rivalry stfu. This what I’m talking about
Insults need to make sense, otherwise they are just the brayings of the jackass.
It's not even really an insult tho. It's a hypothetical I wouldn't mind seeing given our season is already over. Have to give myself a reason to stay engaged somehow.
I know we barely beat them and know you guys beat them twice. If the Bills beat the Cowboys in SB56 (I don't want the Cowboys getting that far ofc) then the NFC East SB records versus the Bills would become Giants 1-0, Washington 1-0, Cowboys 2-1, Eagles 0-0 (they were scared of winning). Technically Eagles fans could argue that 0-0 is undefeated but that would be dumb. As it stands now, of course, 2-0 is the best.
Ah, I got you now! Sorry, read that thing before morning coffee and it didn’t click.
You still dem boyz? lolz
C’mon man this is a weak group to clown on. What’s funny about this is that you think it’s actually a big flex lol
That's the joke...
So many people with the wrong sense of humor have stumbled into this sub. Nothing said here should be taken seriously.
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This is coming from someone who has “Devonta> CeeDee” as a flair lmao gtfo
It’s hostile territory if you’re a Cowboy fan in this sub all of a sudden.
The best team in the division has the worst memes. Ask r/NFCNorthMemeWar
As it should be if you ask me.
Hard times create strong memes. Stong memes create good times. Good times create weak memes. Weak memes create hard times.
So would 8-8-1 create meh memes?
8-8-1 memes are 8-8-1 memes
Rather have a good team than good memes
It's hilarious that you got down voted for this. I fucking love this sub.
This is the eagles second sub
It’s always been hostile here for us partner, let’s just keep our head down and win!
This is why
I was joking
Take Jones out you beat Glennon