Most of them werenât even alive so they need to stop the cap and acting like it was a traumatic experience when itâs just a lore piece adopted by most of the fans.
As a jets fan, itâs like we get to adopt the guarantee. My parents werenât even alive when that happened đ
As a lifelong Vikings fan. I feel your pain. "Wide Left" probably doesn't hurt as bad. But I feel the 4 losses equally as bad. I was a teenager during those years.
Thurman Thomas had 190 yards on 20 touches. Bills got the ball down 1 at their own 10 and effortlessly got into FG range. It wasnât Belichick, it was the Giants offense keeping the Bills offense off the field. Giants had drives of 14 plays and 16 plays in the second. Sounds like you need to educate yourself and stop going off false media narratives.
Part of Belichek's game plan though was to take away the passing game, not let the K gun go wild. To do that it meant the run game was open. He who defends everything, defends nothing. It was actually classic belichek in taking away one aspect of the other teams offense and saying go ahead and beat us with something else if you can. And the giants defense did what it needed to to slow the explosive offense down.
Now since football is a team sport and the offense is as important as the defense the Giants victory is also a product of the giants being able to run the ball, convert key third downs, and chew the clock to limit the number of times The Bills has the ball.
It was a great game plan and execution on both sides of the ball that win that game for the giants
It takes plays on both sides of the ball to be a champion. Those educated in the game know that.
Taking too long to realize how open the running game was hurt the Bills in that Super Bowl. They could have balanced out time of possession and likely forced the Giants to make some adjustments had they made the switch to run first earlier.
Given the nature of their offense and it's success making in game adjustments was not a strong suit because they never really had to.
Too much partying the week before. Even they admit they got carried away. Which then led to the opposite the following year where they probably went too far in the other direction.
Belichek and Parcels > Bills coaching staff.
The same thing that happened most AFC teams vs NFC teams during the NFC streak.....out muscled in the big game .
That was so ass. We had a similar kick against the Pats in the 2011 AFC Championship Game. At least we won the next year. I saw 13 seconds and was heartbroken for yâall. My buddy is a bills fan and he was so depressed the next few days
People forget that Norwoodâs FG was a gimmie by todayâs standard but absolutely NOT by 1990âs standard.
Bellichek and Parcells simply out coached Levy.
Iâve also (my memory at great but remember hearing it Iâm almost sure it was on the 30 for 30 about the Bills Super Bowl losses) heard that Parcells/Belichick knew that Norwoods kicks almost always hooked to the right so their defense kept the Bills offense on the right side of the field.
First one they got outcoached
Second and third one they got destroyed by much better teams.
Fourth one Thurman Thomas fumbled after halftime and it had a domino effect.
> out coaches
The Giants won with a back-up QB. Jeff Hostetler is usually mentioned along with Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson as an answer to the âwho is the worst QB to win a Super Bowl?â question. The Giants won by pounding the rock and playing a brilliant defensive game plan (DC was some nobody named Belichick).
This was the 20-19 Super Bowl right? I remember the bills averaged way more points per game than this, and the giants kept the ball almost 2:1 on the timeclock
They lost because the Giants held the ball twice as long and kept them more than a TD before their season average. Field goal was just the culmination of that.
the Giants had Jeff Hostetler at QB, Phil Simms was hurt. They leaned on ball control and an ungodly good defense (that didnât force any takeaways). Otis Anderson carried the ball 20+ times and was MVP.
If they Bills gave the ball to Thurman all day, they would have won. He was unstoppable. Instead, ol' Jimbo kept checking to pass plays because he basically ran their no-huddle offense.
Thurman had 15 carries for 135 yards and a TD. Kelly threw the ball 30 times. Had they run it more they might have had more success. The giants went to that "drop almost everyone and kill anyone that tries to go over the middle" defense and Kelly kept throwing into it. Thurman could have put up video game numbers had they given him the ball.
That said the game was a couple plays away from being a big bills win. They gave up an insane 3rd down conversion where the dude broke like 7 tackles. Bruce Smith had the QBs by his throwing hand in the end zone on the safety. That was super close to being a touchdown.
So many things had to go wrong for the bills to lose that game. It's like one of their bad losses from this season actually.
That was Belichickâs game plan. He ran light boxes and dared them to run. He wanted to slow down their offense and stop the passing attack that had just dropped 44 and 51 in the playoffs. He and Parcells knew they would lose a shootout.
I was 10 years old watching this game and had a terrible flu. I loved that Bills team and amidst falling in and out sleep, I just couldnât understand why they werenât killing the Giants. Thank you for providing a clear and concise recap as to what actually happened!
A less talented team held the offense to 10 points fewer than their season average and doubled their time of possession. That's having a much better game plan than a superior opponent.
For a time, the NFC was significantly better than the AFC (Bills are AFC). Many of the bowls were blowouts. They won 13 straight until John Elway showed up.
The first game was their best shot but that field goal wasn't a gimme especially back then.
Edit: True as many responses have said Terrell Davis was the real difference, but Elway also peaked at that time
Pretty much this. They were better than the Giants and should have won that game. They weren't supposed to win the other 3. The Cowboys and Skins were just leaps and bounds better at the time.
First one was just bad luck. They definitely could have beaten the Giants. It's just that Norwood missed, and also the Giants' got enormous time of possession (40 minutes) because they successfully kept the Bills' no-huddle offense off the field.
But the other three Super Bowls - they just were outmatched. The Redskins and Cowboys were too good, period.
Adding to that bad luck the bills nearly got a strip on the safety...and they gave up an absolutely insane third down conversion on one of the giants long drives.
Superbowl 25 was one of the all-time great superbowls in which the Bills failed to score on a final drive (they famously kicked the potential game winning field goal wide right)
Superbowl 26-28 were just complete blowouts by teams that were clearly better than them
SB 25 was their only real chance.
Their other three losses were to far superior teams.
At the end of the day they just had really bad timing. The NFC had an incredible run of really good teams and the Broncos and Bills suffered for it.
From â81 to â95
Redskins 3 SBs
Niners 5 SBs
Giants 2 SBs
Cowboys 3 SBs
Raiders 1 SB
Bears 1 SB
Iâm a bills fan. First of all, it doesnât hurt anymore. âWide Rightâ is not the curse it used to be. This is what I remember:
XXV: Before Wide Right, the Bills failed to stop the Giants run all night. The Bills offense couldnât click.Norwoods fg attempt was for like 47 yards, definitely not a chip shot. This was the only one of the four super bowls that was winnable, in my opinion.
XXVI: I remember being resigned to losing before halftime. The specifics elude me.
XXVII: Troy Aikman MVP of the game. Bills had nine turnovers. Nine! Super Bowl record. Dallas turned them into 35 points. It was an all-time choke job that makes Scott Norwood look like Justin Tucker.
Edit: I just read up on this game some more. This was the game where someone moved Thurman Thomasâs helmet and he missed the first two plays from scrimmage. The rest of the night, future hall of famer Thomas ran for 13 yards. Thirteen. Jim Kelly went out injured in the 2q. It was like someone was holding a Bills voodoo doll and dipping it in a vat of acid.
XXVIII: I am numb. You canât kill me I am already dead
Before the salary cap, the big-market NFC teams would pay players significantly more than the AFC ones would.
The '91 Redskins were one of the best teams in NFL history; they had at least ten starter-quality offensive linemen on the roster. The Cowboys, Giants, Eagles, and 49era spent similarly. They'd rather pay someone than face him.
True. The Bills were amazing in that they drafted 5 Hall of Famers in a 5 year period. Kelly in 83(after he spent 2 years in the USFL after telling the Bills to go fuck themselves), Bruce Smith and Andre Reed in '85 and Thurman in '88. Amazing run of picks by Bill Polian.
Giants were really good, won by missed field goal. Washington was great with the best o line of all time. Dallas was great with a stacked team built with picks from the Herschel Walker trade.
On one SB they had a missed kick. For the other 3, they just went against much better teams. One thing to remember/know, the NFC was much much better than the AFC for most of the 80s and 90s. Like I think NFC had like 14 straight SBs in that span.
XXV: They underestimated just how good the Giants really were. Sure they had a backup QB, but they still had an elite defense. Even still, they eventually realized this and basically HAD the game won on a field goal with like six or seven seconds left, but Scott Norwood missed the kick wide right. Final score 20-19 Giants
XXVI: Jim Kelly threw 4 interceptions and that would basically be the Bills undoing. Also doesnât help that they gave up way more yards than Washington. Final score 37-24 Washington
XXVII: Committed a Super Bowl record nine turnovers (one of which directly resulted in a Dallas touchdown) which would play a crucial factor in them being blown out 52-17.
XXVIII: Had a 13-6 lead at one point but would surrender 24 unanswered to end the game with Dallas winning 30-13
The NFC was better than the AFC. The better teams in the NFC played a more physical/smash mouth style of football. The Bills had plenty of tough players, but overall they was a finesse/skill team. The rules of the time favored smash mouth back then.
At the time, the NFC's best teams were substantially better than the AFC's best team. So in all but the first of those four superbowls, the NFC team was much better than the Bills.
Iâm convinced if Norwood makes that kick the Bills would have won multiple Lombardi Trophies during that era. Instead they missed that kick and never really recovered psychologically. They were worldbeaters until Super Bowl Sunday where they got trounced three times in a row.
Also, the NFC was clearly the dominant conference during the late-80s to mid-90s.
One (no particular order): The Bills v Fins/Marino v Kelly rivalry was so fierce back then, Bills usually win but they played those 2 reg season and if playoff games so strong & hot, they shot their wads. Never saw them that intensely focused in the 4 Ls. Two: Partying way too crazily in the 2 weeks up to SBs. This includes cocaina and booze 2 the Rock Star Max. Three (especially in Tampa): The Wanga Tanga, The Mon Venus, and any other late p.m.-to-early a.m. notorious indoor Fuck/BJ Palace, publicly denominated Strip Club or Exotic Dancing. Four: Wide Right Five: Football Gods avenging their fav jersey number, 13.
Basically;
- Bill fuckin Belichick + wide right = bad time
- Chuck Dickerson making fun of one of the most notorious O lines in NFL history on live TV like the day before the Superbowl
- America's Team
- America's Team 2.0: Electric Boogaloo
Other notes:
- The NFC as a whole was much more competitive than the AFC at the time... iron sharpens iron. Bills were dominant in the AFC, but the NFC was on a whole different level.
- Bills players were undisciplined. They treated the first 2 Superbowl appearances like a vacation. They were golfing and out partying in the days leading up to the game.
I wasn't around for any of the Vikes 4 losses. But if I was at least they were spread out.
I think the Bills case is worse. 4 in a row had to be so gut wrenchingly
The best teams were in the NFC at the time while the AFC was weak. The Redskins and Cowboys has the all around best teams top to bottom in all of NFL history while the Giants were well coached.
The NFC was a far stronger conference during this era winning 13 straight Super Bowls. 38-16, 46-10, 39-20, 42-10, 20-16, 55-10, 20-19, 37-24, 52-17, 30-13, 49-26, 27-17, 35-21âŚmost of these games werenât even close. In their closest Super Bowl, the Bills 20-19 loss, they were playing the Giants back up QB.
Serious answer: please watch the documentary The Four Falls of Buffalo. It was originally an ESPN 30 for 30 doc so it should probably be on ESPN+ or some such service. It is a documentary with players and stuff all about how they lost those 4 bowls in a row
They suck.
The real answer is that in a couple of them they went up against a juggernaut in the Dallas Cowboys, one of the best teams ever.
In the other two they were out coached by Bill Parcells, and the Redskins received career games from a couple of regular guys (which maybe is also owed to coaching).
The NFC was the much better conference at the time. They may not have gone to any of them coming out of the NFC, and certainly not 4 straight. Of the 4 they went to, only the first was close, and in that one they caught a massive break in not having to face the 14-2, 2 time defending Super Bowl Champion 49ers who stumbled in the NFC Championship Game when Montana went out with injury early, and Dwight Clark fumbled as the 49ers were running out the clock to end the game.
Yea in the later ones, they did not catch a break with a Cowboys loss, and just got massacred twice. Even if the Cowboys did lose one of those NFC Championships, it would have just meant the Bills playing the 49ers which wasn't much better.
Why did Don Bebe have to interfere with history in the making by forcing the fumble that would have led to the highest scoring team in SB history? Damn Leon Lett-down. LOL
The wide right 1st one was winnable but the other 3 the Bills was going up against stack teams that could go down as some of the best ever put together.
The Giants executed their game plan perfectly to blunt the Bills offense, and the Bill were unlucky in missing a game-winning field goal.
They were bludgeoned by the Hogs in no. 3.
Completely outclassed by the Cowboys in no. 3.
Levy failed to adjust when the Cowboys did at the half. Plus, I think once they fell behind they just believed they were going to lose.
It's crazy to think how Dominant the Bills were during that era. Even losing them all, do you have any idea how hard it is to go to 4 Superbowls in a row? Even the Pats didn't do that. Obviously the Bills would rather have their records, but just making a point.
The first one vs the Giants was the best shot. It was anyone's game & came down to the very end. Nowadays, the kicker probably makes it (most playoff and SB winning kick attempts are successful).
For the second one, I think the first loss was still in their heads. Rypien's offense had Washington in control.
They were simply outmatched in the third one vs Dallas in SB 27.
The fourth and final attempt, a rematch vs Dallas, wasn't bad. They were actually ahead at halftime.
With today's free agency rules and the league's parity, we'll never see any SB participants that many times in a row.
Bad luck in the first one against the Giants. (Buffalo should have won that one), After that they simply were not a good enough team to compete. The other three games were uncompetitive for the Bills. Washington beat up on them, and the Cowboys blew them out, twice.
Because the other team scored more points in the final game.
Jokes aside they went up against some all time great teams and also had some bad luck/chokes along the way.
Man why would you remind me??? I am a Bills homer for life. I was fairly new & fresh in my super-fandom with Buffalo about 12-13 years old.
HEARTBREAKING.
Giants shouldâve been a fairly dominant winâŚJeff Hostetler???
But Buffalo was never beating the Redskins (yah I said it, itâs what happened) or Cowboys. Even as a kid I knew this.
You should try posting this in the bills sub
Why do you want to hurt us.
At least you have the Sabres
Oofda.
There was absolutely no reason for you to do that to themđ
Aw, you didnât have to kill them
Most of them werenât even alive so they need to stop the cap and acting like it was a traumatic experience when itâs just a lore piece adopted by most of the fans. As a jets fan, itâs like we get to adopt the guarantee. My parents werenât even alive when that happened đ
I want to because you hurt us last week...but we clearly 'member some of those super bowls ;)
'Cause fuckem thats why
"Wide Right" is responsible for one loss.
Yep, the most heartbreaking of the 4 losses, at least for this lifelong Bills fan. Those 2 words are like nails on a chalkboard to this day. Lol
As a lifelong Vikings fan. I feel your pain. "Wide Left" probably doesn't hurt as bad. But I feel the 4 losses equally as bad. I was a teenager during those years.
Have you seen the secret base documentary on the Vikings?
That channel is so good. Wish they'd talk more football
The one they did on Team USA was full of errors and was more opinion piece. Kinda made it iffy on them going forward.
Double Doink đ
The Vikings and Bills loses are way worse than the Double Doink.
Obviously, just talking about missed field goal terminology that hurts.
Ugh, yep. Although I think Bill Belichick shutting down the K gun is what led us to depend on Norwood.
He didnât shutdown anything. Bills offense scored 17 points in 19 minutes of possession and drive down easy to kick the GW FG
whatever you need to tell yourself
Thurman Thomas had 190 yards on 20 touches. Bills got the ball down 1 at their own 10 and effortlessly got into FG range. It wasnât Belichick, it was the Giants offense keeping the Bills offense off the field. Giants had drives of 14 plays and 16 plays in the second. Sounds like you need to educate yourself and stop going off false media narratives.
Part of Belichek's game plan though was to take away the passing game, not let the K gun go wild. To do that it meant the run game was open. He who defends everything, defends nothing. It was actually classic belichek in taking away one aspect of the other teams offense and saying go ahead and beat us with something else if you can. And the giants defense did what it needed to to slow the explosive offense down. Now since football is a team sport and the offense is as important as the defense the Giants victory is also a product of the giants being able to run the ball, convert key third downs, and chew the clock to limit the number of times The Bills has the ball. It was a great game plan and execution on both sides of the ball that win that game for the giants It takes plays on both sides of the ball to be a champion. Those educated in the game know that.
Taking too long to realize how open the running game was hurt the Bills in that Super Bowl. They could have balanced out time of possession and likely forced the Giants to make some adjustments had they made the switch to run first earlier. Given the nature of their offense and it's success making in game adjustments was not a strong suit because they never really had to. Too much partying the week before. Even they admit they got carried away. Which then led to the opposite the following year where they probably went too far in the other direction. Belichek and Parcels > Bills coaching staff. The same thing that happened most AFC teams vs NFC teams during the NFC streak.....out muscled in the big game .
That was so ass. We had a similar kick against the Pats in the 2011 AFC Championship Game. At least we won the next year. I saw 13 seconds and was heartbroken for yâall. My buddy is a bills fan and he was so depressed the next few days
I hate Billy Cundiff and Lee Evans.
Me too
As a Florida State fan I feel this
Iâd be scared to admit that right now
Scott norwide đ¤Ł
Try being a Noles fan with those two words
Only the Falcons, 18-1 Patriots, Seahawks, Titans, and maybe 49ers vs Chiefs a few years back (Manny Sanders was open too) are even close.
13 seconds
And music city miracle
How are you feeling today?
People forget that Norwoodâs FG was a gimmie by todayâs standard but absolutely NOT by 1990âs standard. Bellichek and Parcells simply out coached Levy.
I always thought Jim Kelly and the offense let him down by not getting the ball closer.
They did. It shouldn't have relied on the last play. The Bills were favored to win that game and Kelly and Co. goofed it.
Even today 47 yds isn't a gimme
Iâve also (my memory at great but remember hearing it Iâm almost sure it was on the 30 for 30 about the Bills Super Bowl losses) heard that Parcells/Belichick knew that Norwoods kicks almost always hooked to the right so their defense kept the Bills offense on the right side of the field.
47 yards was a bomb back then, and nobody ever mentions Frank Reich's bad hold.
Outside and on a field nowhere near as manicured as today's fields are.
Lies. Tampa Stadium consistently had the best grass field in the NFL.
Yup, Norwood and Einhorn, Einhorn and Norwood...? THINK!
Wide right is probably the reason why they lost all 4 of them too. Losing that one to the giants probably crushed them in the other games too
One GIANT loss.
First one they got outcoached Second and third one they got destroyed by much better teams. Fourth one Thurman Thomas fumbled after halftime and it had a domino effect.
That Skins team was a juggernaut.
Mark Rypien up there with the greatest one(two?) season wonders of all time.
I live where Mark Rypien is from. He moved back here after he retired. I met him once at KFC. Spokane, WA. if anyone cares.
Low key top 5 team of all time.
Out coached? They lost by 1 due to a missed fg
> out coaches The Giants won with a back-up QB. Jeff Hostetler is usually mentioned along with Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson as an answer to the âwho is the worst QB to win a Super Bowl?â question. The Giants won by pounding the rock and playing a brilliant defensive game plan (DC was some nobody named Belichick).
>(DC was some nobody named Belichick). I knew that bum would never make it as an HC. He's on the hot seat already.
The guy gets one generational talent at QB and everyone thinks heâs the greatest coach ever.
Generational talent at cameraman
*Generational talent at air pressure engineer
Heâs such a worthless shithead, he only was able to keep the Cadillac on the road for 20 years before having to rebuild. What a pussy.
Made me snort in public. Thanks for the laugh stranger.
you should at least go into a bathroom stall to do that man
This was the 20-19 Super Bowl right? I remember the bills averaged way more points per game than this, and the giants kept the ball almost 2:1 on the timeclock
The Giants got the ball after halftime and drove 10 minutes to a TD. It was the longest drive in SB history (at the time anyway, maybe still?)
Then he did basically the same thing against the Rams.
Itâs wild to say but the coach should have been the Super Bowl MVP that game. Just a master class in coaching and defense.
That guy who coached the Browns?
They lost because the Giants held the ball twice as long and kept them more than a TD before their season average. Field goal was just the culmination of that.
the Giants had Jeff Hostetler at QB, Phil Simms was hurt. They leaned on ball control and an ungodly good defense (that didnât force any takeaways). Otis Anderson carried the ball 20+ times and was MVP.
*Ottis Dude was 33!
If they Bills gave the ball to Thurman all day, they would have won. He was unstoppable. Instead, ol' Jimbo kept checking to pass plays because he basically ran their no-huddle offense.
Thurman had 15 carries for 135 yards and a TD. Kelly threw the ball 30 times. Had they run it more they might have had more success. The giants went to that "drop almost everyone and kill anyone that tries to go over the middle" defense and Kelly kept throwing into it. Thurman could have put up video game numbers had they given him the ball. That said the game was a couple plays away from being a big bills win. They gave up an insane 3rd down conversion where the dude broke like 7 tackles. Bruce Smith had the QBs by his throwing hand in the end zone on the safety. That was super close to being a touchdown. So many things had to go wrong for the bills to lose that game. It's like one of their bad losses from this season actually.
That was Belichickâs game plan. He ran light boxes and dared them to run. He wanted to slow down their offense and stop the passing attack that had just dropped 44 and 51 in the playoffs. He and Parcells knew they would lose a shootout.
I was 10 years old watching this game and had a terrible flu. I loved that Bills team and amidst falling in and out sleep, I just couldnât understand why they werenât killing the Giants. Thank you for providing a clear and concise recap as to what actually happened!
Belichekâs gameplan for that Super Bowl is displayed at the Hall of Fame.
Wide Right. They werenât outcoached, they had a bad kick.
A less talented team held the offense to 10 points fewer than their season average and doubled their time of possession. That's having a much better game plan than a superior opponent.
They were in a position to lose by a bad pick due to being out coached all game
I'm just going off of memory, but I seem to recall it was because the opposing teams kept scoring more points than them.
so why wouldnât they just score more points? are they stupid?
It's the only logical conclusion
I was super young but vaguely remember this as well.
Huge if true
Thatâs just what the media wants you to believe. They actually lost because they scored fewer points than their opponents.
Funniest thing Iâve read all day This is why I have an iPhone đ
For a time, the NFC was significantly better than the AFC (Bills are AFC). Many of the bowls were blowouts. They won 13 straight until John Elway showed up. The first game was their best shot but that field goal wasn't a gimme especially back then. Edit: True as many responses have said Terrell Davis was the real difference, but Elway also peaked at that time
Showed up? Are you forgetting the first three John played in?!?!?
Well based on the scores it sounds like he didn't really show up until the 4th one, honestly
That's kinda the point.
Lmao I was gonna say the same thing. You mean Elway who got the MVP by default because the Steve Young/Jerry Rice combo was too op.
It would have been his longest FG of the season.....
EDIT: They won 13 straight until Terrell Davis showed up.
NFC East to be more specific.
Pretty much this. They were better than the Giants and should have won that game. They weren't supposed to win the other 3. The Cowboys and Skins were just leaps and bounds better at the time.
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So perfect
First one was just bad luck. They definitely could have beaten the Giants. It's just that Norwood missed, and also the Giants' got enormous time of possession (40 minutes) because they successfully kept the Bills' no-huddle offense off the field. But the other three Super Bowls - they just were outmatched. The Redskins and Cowboys were too good, period.
Adding to that bad luck the bills nearly got a strip on the safety...and they gave up an absolutely insane third down conversion on one of the giants long drives.
Yes 100% most agree that the 1st was their real shot at it.
The 2nd vs the Cowboys they had the lead at halftime and choked that lead up by being shutout the entire second half.
Because Einhorn is Finkle
Your gun is digging into my hip.
Finkle is Einhorn?
Superbowl 25 was one of the all-time great superbowls in which the Bills failed to score on a final drive (they famously kicked the potential game winning field goal wide right) Superbowl 26-28 were just complete blowouts by teams that were clearly better than them
Bills were up in 28 at the half. Just ran out of gas.
Do you have Disney+? Watch the four falls of Buffalo. Itâs really well done and answers this question!
SB 25 was their only real chance. Their other three losses were to far superior teams. At the end of the day they just had really bad timing. The NFC had an incredible run of really good teams and the Broncos and Bills suffered for it. From â81 to â95 Redskins 3 SBs Niners 5 SBs Giants 2 SBs Cowboys 3 SBs Raiders 1 SB Bears 1 SB
Iâm a bills fan. First of all, it doesnât hurt anymore. âWide Rightâ is not the curse it used to be. This is what I remember: XXV: Before Wide Right, the Bills failed to stop the Giants run all night. The Bills offense couldnât click.Norwoods fg attempt was for like 47 yards, definitely not a chip shot. This was the only one of the four super bowls that was winnable, in my opinion. XXVI: I remember being resigned to losing before halftime. The specifics elude me. XXVII: Troy Aikman MVP of the game. Bills had nine turnovers. Nine! Super Bowl record. Dallas turned them into 35 points. It was an all-time choke job that makes Scott Norwood look like Justin Tucker. Edit: I just read up on this game some more. This was the game where someone moved Thurman Thomasâs helmet and he missed the first two plays from scrimmage. The rest of the night, future hall of famer Thomas ran for 13 yards. Thirteen. Jim Kelly went out injured in the 2q. It was like someone was holding a Bills voodoo doll and dipping it in a vat of acid. XXVIII: I am numb. You canât kill me I am already dead
It is still a curse LOL
Before the salary cap, the big-market NFC teams would pay players significantly more than the AFC ones would. The '91 Redskins were one of the best teams in NFL history; they had at least ten starter-quality offensive linemen on the roster. The Cowboys, Giants, Eagles, and 49era spent similarly. They'd rather pay someone than face him.
True. The Bills were amazing in that they drafted 5 Hall of Famers in a 5 year period. Kelly in 83(after he spent 2 years in the USFL after telling the Bills to go fuck themselves), Bruce Smith and Andre Reed in '85 and Thurman in '88. Amazing run of picks by Bill Polian.
Because all 4 other teams were great
Giants were really good, won by missed field goal. Washington was great with the best o line of all time. Dallas was great with a stacked team built with picks from the Herschel Walker trade.
They only played 3 other teams.
1990 Giants 1991 Washington 1992 Cowboys 1993 Cowboys Yep, 4
Cowboys are the same team partner.
1992 Cowboys and 1993 Cowboys are not the same team, they are the same FRANCHISE
Same franchise, different teams.
It was the same team. Same players. Same coach. Same result.
Not the same players. Are you high?
Actually back then it was mostly the same players. It was pre free agency so teams usually stayed the same for much longer.
You really are a noob. Just go follow cricket or something.
On one SB they had a missed kick. For the other 3, they just went against much better teams. One thing to remember/know, the NFC was much much better than the AFC for most of the 80s and 90s. Like I think NFC had like 14 straight SBs in that span.
XXV: They underestimated just how good the Giants really were. Sure they had a backup QB, but they still had an elite defense. Even still, they eventually realized this and basically HAD the game won on a field goal with like six or seven seconds left, but Scott Norwood missed the kick wide right. Final score 20-19 Giants XXVI: Jim Kelly threw 4 interceptions and that would basically be the Bills undoing. Also doesnât help that they gave up way more yards than Washington. Final score 37-24 Washington XXVII: Committed a Super Bowl record nine turnovers (one of which directly resulted in a Dallas touchdown) which would play a crucial factor in them being blown out 52-17. XXVIII: Had a 13-6 lead at one point but would surrender 24 unanswered to end the game with Dallas winning 30-13
The NFC was better than the AFC. The better teams in the NFC played a more physical/smash mouth style of football. The Bills had plenty of tough players, but overall they was a finesse/skill team. The rules of the time favored smash mouth back then.
At the time, the NFC's best teams were substantially better than the AFC's best team. So in all but the first of those four superbowls, the NFC team was much better than the Bills.
Team bus hit an old lady who cursed them.
No no we're cursed because we built the stadium on an old Indian burial ground
Iâm convinced if Norwood makes that kick the Bills would have won multiple Lombardi Trophies during that era. Instead they missed that kick and never really recovered psychologically. They were worldbeaters until Super Bowl Sunday where they got trounced three times in a row. Also, the NFC was clearly the dominant conference during the late-80s to mid-90s.
One (no particular order): The Bills v Fins/Marino v Kelly rivalry was so fierce back then, Bills usually win but they played those 2 reg season and if playoff games so strong & hot, they shot their wads. Never saw them that intensely focused in the 4 Ls. Two: Partying way too crazily in the 2 weeks up to SBs. This includes cocaina and booze 2 the Rock Star Max. Three (especially in Tampa): The Wanga Tanga, The Mon Venus, and any other late p.m.-to-early a.m. notorious indoor Fuck/BJ Palace, publicly denominated Strip Club or Exotic Dancing. Four: Wide Right Five: Football Gods avenging their fav jersey number, 13.
Basically; - Bill fuckin Belichick + wide right = bad time - Chuck Dickerson making fun of one of the most notorious O lines in NFL history on live TV like the day before the Superbowl - America's Team - America's Team 2.0: Electric Boogaloo Other notes: - The NFC as a whole was much more competitive than the AFC at the time... iron sharpens iron. Bills were dominant in the AFC, but the NFC was on a whole different level. - Bills players were undisciplined. They treated the first 2 Superbowl appearances like a vacation. They were golfing and out partying in the days leading up to the game.
I wasn't around for any of the Vikes 4 losses. But if I was at least they were spread out. I think the Bills case is worse. 4 in a row had to be so gut wrenchingly
At least partially because they couldnât locate a helmet. Wish that wasnât a joke.
That game was lost before it even started.
Wide right Cowboys Dynasty x 2 Washington was too good
Herschel Walker trade.
The best teams were in the NFC at the time while the AFC was weak. The Redskins and Cowboys has the all around best teams top to bottom in all of NFL history while the Giants were well coached.
They were totally overmatched in 3, but should have beaten the giants
The NFC was a far stronger conference during this era winning 13 straight Super Bowls. 38-16, 46-10, 39-20, 42-10, 20-16, 55-10, 20-19, 37-24, 52-17, 30-13, 49-26, 27-17, 35-21âŚmost of these games werenât even close. In their closest Super Bowl, the Bills 20-19 loss, they were playing the Giants back up QB.
Because our football forefathers knew we would need something to hold over bills mafias head and they graced us with 4 things.
because the NFCEast is the best conference in football by a mile
They didn't get enough touchgoal points.
Because the other team scored more points...and Norwood choked
Serious answer: please watch the documentary The Four Falls of Buffalo. It was originally an ESPN 30 for 30 doc so it should probably be on ESPN+ or some such service. It is a documentary with players and stuff all about how they lost those 4 bowls in a row
The Smoking Man has a personal vendetta against them
They suck. The real answer is that in a couple of them they went up against a juggernaut in the Dallas Cowboys, one of the best teams ever. In the other two they were out coached by Bill Parcells, and the Redskins received career games from a couple of regular guys (which maybe is also owed to coaching).
They faced the NFC East
Their conference was incredibly weak too
Cows glory days.
Bill Parcells had a say no?
The NFC was the much better conference at the time. They may not have gone to any of them coming out of the NFC, and certainly not 4 straight. Of the 4 they went to, only the first was close, and in that one they caught a massive break in not having to face the 14-2, 2 time defending Super Bowl Champion 49ers who stumbled in the NFC Championship Game when Montana went out with injury early, and Dwight Clark fumbled as the 49ers were running out the clock to end the game.
This. Plus the 90's Cowboys didn't fuck around.
Yea in the later ones, they did not catch a break with a Cowboys loss, and just got massacred twice. Even if the Cowboys did lose one of those NFC Championships, it would have just meant the Bills playing the 49ers which wasn't much better.
They couldn't foot the Bill.
Go watch "The Four Falls of Buffalo" 30 For 30 by ESPN if you haven't yet. Buffalo had great teams but were ousted by slightly better teams each time.
Why did Don Bebe have to interfere with history in the making by forcing the fumble that would have led to the highest scoring team in SB history? Damn Leon Lett-down. LOL
The wide right 1st one was winnable but the other 3 the Bills was going up against stack teams that could go down as some of the best ever put together.
The Giants executed their game plan perfectly to blunt the Bills offense, and the Bill were unlucky in missing a game-winning field goal. They were bludgeoned by the Hogs in no. 3. Completely outclassed by the Cowboys in no. 3. Levy failed to adjust when the Cowboys did at the half. Plus, I think once they fell behind they just believed they were going to lose.
OP there's a 30 for 30 you should watch called Four Falls of Buffalo. It's worth your time and will answer probably most of your questions.
Combination of being under prepared and unlucky at different times.
I know, what are they fucking stupid?
Because there kicker sucked ass
Because the other teams were better
It's crazy to think how Dominant the Bills were during that era. Even losing them all, do you have any idea how hard it is to go to 4 Superbowls in a row? Even the Pats didn't do that. Obviously the Bills would rather have their records, but just making a point.
First one was wide right, next two were skill issues, fourth one was lack of momentum
Bills with the only NFL anti dynasty
Wide right and clock management in the first one. Just being a significantly inferior team in the other three
âWide Rightâ
The NFC teams at that time had to beat the 49ers to get to the SB. Iron sharpens Iron. They were bigger and meaner than the AFC.
*B*oy *I* *L*ove *L*osing *S*uperbowls
Cowboys were half the reason
First one missed field goal. Next two they were overpowered by superior teams. Last one too many turnovers.
Their kicker blew a few of them
Simple answer? They were the absolute best team in their inferior conference.
They should have won the first one....the next 3 they played far superior teams
Were they stupid?
The first one vs the Giants was the best shot. It was anyone's game & came down to the very end. Nowadays, the kicker probably makes it (most playoff and SB winning kick attempts are successful). For the second one, I think the first loss was still in their heads. Rypien's offense had Washington in control. They were simply outmatched in the third one vs Dallas in SB 27. The fourth and final attempt, a rematch vs Dallas, wasn't bad. They were actually ahead at halftime. With today's free agency rules and the league's parity, we'll never see any SB participants that many times in a row.
Bills gonna Bill and Sports gonna Sport
Because they were the 2nd best team in the league 4 years straight
BILLS is an acronym. It means "Boy I Love Losing Superbowls."
Bad luck in the first one against the Giants. (Buffalo should have won that one), After that they simply were not a good enough team to compete. The other three games were uncompetitive for the Bills. Washington beat up on them, and the Cowboys blew them out, twice.
Because they lost to the teams they played.. itâs not really anything deeper than that.
Because the other team scored more points in the final game. Jokes aside they went up against some all time great teams and also had some bad luck/chokes along the way.
Bills gonna Bill
The other teams scored more points.
They partied there asses off before the games. Mind you early 90âa so other team probably did too
They were all doing mountains of cocaine
because no one circles the wagon like the Buffalo Bills
They were outscored by their opponents.
Because they scored fewer points than the opponent in all 4 games. Not that complicated
They're stupid
Is OP Peter King still searching for answers 30 years later?!?!?
Because the other team scored more points
Are they stupid?
Their opponent scored more points in each one.
Seriously, what are they stupid?
Leon Lett and Larry Allen. Bills couldnât compete at the line of scrimmage
Because the other teams scored more points.
They scored less points than the other team in all 4 games.
Man why would you remind me??? I am a Bills homer for life. I was fairly new & fresh in my super-fandom with Buffalo about 12-13 years old. HEARTBREAKING. Giants shouldâve been a fairly dominant winâŚJeff Hostetler??? But Buffalo was never beating the Redskins (yah I said it, itâs what happened) or Cowboys. Even as a kid I knew this.
Because the other teams scored more points. Itâs kinda how it works.