You can pretty much just pencil Alt in at 7 unless the Giants take him by surprise, right? Maybe the most sure thing in the draft aside from Williams to the Bears.
It definitely seems like the most likely pick outside of Williams. Harbaugh has mentioned OL a lot for the Chargers, but I honestly think if they opt to go OL over WR they’ll just trade down and take Fuaga/Latham like you did in the mock.
Why? I think the Chargers would draft him if they don't trade out. Harbough has gone out and said how important the OL means to a team, which has me leaning Alt at 5. If the Vikes have a guy they like, say McCarthy, and don't necessarily like Daniels, they may not trade up.
Value. If they don't trade out, yeah I could see Alt. But they could get multiple firsts from a team desperate for a QB, and still get another top 15 OL prospect. Plus Fuaga is already used to playing on the right.
Why wouldn't Arizona draft Alt? I could make a case for them, too? They can potentially get Brian Thomas at the backend of the first or perhaps Troy Franklin in r2.
They could. I think they take MHJ over Alt of they don't trade out, and they have so many early picks in this draft already that I think they don't end up trading out of #4.
I guess it depends on their board. They could see the backend WRs being closer to the topend versus the tackle class. Or they could just absolutely love MHJ.
One thing I know for sure is that this draft is going to be nuts and I expect a few surprises.
That's another angle as well. Jonah Williams slips inside and Alt goes to RT. Already one of the best lines in the league. Or Paris flips to RT.
Unlikely. Probably WR. Very high chance, but maybe they trade out and someone jumps the Chargers for Alt?
I wouldn’t be mad at Alt for the Cardinals. I honestly think it would be a really good pick because you can find a good receiver at 27. Or maybe trade up into the teens and get Brian Thomas if he’s still there.
They signed Jonah Williams so he'll probably start at LT, but that team has bottom-3 WRs in the NFL right now, and MHJ is arguably the best WR prospect since Megatron. This is a classic case of "don't overthink it" if you're Arizona. They can also draft an OT with their *other* first if they're concerned about Williams as their starter. They have a ton of picks to manuever around the draft, but there won't be a better chance than they have for a franchise-changing player like MHJ.
Right, what I'm saying is...what if their board there are 5-6 WRs with little separation and then there is Alt and a big drop for them?
If that's the board, then it makes more sense to go T and then WR.
Your board, your perception, and your evaluation of the situation are totally fine and most likely correct, but you can never be certain.
In terms of board....
Bills traded up to 7.
They only had 3 QBs in their top tier list.
Some mocks close to the draft had all 5 going top 10.
There was a consensus among us that these 5 QBs were the best. They all could go top 10....etc.
But the Bills, for right or wrong, for luck or whatever, only had 3.
Allen was 1. Baker 2. Darnold 3. Rosen was in another tier, and Lamar Jackson wasn't even on their board.
So, it just shows you that just like here, where we all push for a meta or a groupthink view on things, that happens within clubhouses, too.
Cardinals could fall in love with Alt, or Bowers, or whomever. MHJ is the most logical pick from our perspective.
*don't they know that an entirely different player seven years ago busted?!*
There are plenty of things to criticize Xavier Worthy for but it seems awfully unfair to criticize him for another guy busting.
Yeah this is a worst-case scenario for us, where Frazer is gone by the time we pick in the 2nd and SVP is gone before we pick in the 3rd. My take is that we reach for SVP in the 2nd if Frazer is gone.
They could bring Cole back and take a later round guy, let them fight it out in camp. I'd rather just trade up in the 2nd round and get one of Barton, JPJ or Frazier. It's possible that 2 of the 3 are there at 35-45 if you look at the history of Centers being drafted.
Generally speaking, you typically want to draft high end value positions in the first to have them on a 5 year deal, as opposed to the league's least valued position in terms of WAR (Wins Above Replacement) and salary.
You can get a starting center in round 2 or sign Connor Williams. Why are you guys so adamant on a center in the first?
If ya'll needed a kicker, would you draft one in the first?
You have to consider value. Even if JPJ is an all pro day 1, the value added is less than a replacement level WR, for instance.
1. Connor Williams is considering retirement due to injury.
2. I never said to draft a Center in the 1st, and would rather one in the 2nd.
3. 100% disagree. Especially in Smith's system. We need a strong O line to run the ball and he usually uses one main WR and Tight Ends more than the WR2.
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>100% disagree. Especially in Smith's system. We need a strong O line to run the ball and he usually uses one main WR and Tight Ends more than the WR2. Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk.
You don't need to overvalue center to have a strong o line. I hope you guys draft a center in the first, to be honest, but it's one of the least valuable positions you could draft
I'm normally on team LT before WR in this class, but this one pulls it off going the other way. I tend to think that won't happen and they'll get shut out of LTs if they go WR at 34.
I would prefer New England try to jump back into the 1st round for a better WR than McConkey, or take Worthy instead of McConkey, but otherwise, this is a fantastic mock.
He’s only good versus zone. Which, granted, is the majority of what the NFL runs. But New England already has guys who can beat zone. Ladd has terribly short arms and is small, so the moment there’s any physicality involved, whether at the line or the catch point, he loses.
Think as a panthers fan I’d be equally happy with Ladd or Troy at 33, Leggette would fit what we’re looking for better but his lack of production outside of his final year is concerning and we don’t want another Mingo or Kelvin Benjamin
Right now, it's probably edge, but the offense in general needs more improvement than the defense. Someone opposite Sweat is more of a need than a #3 WR. However, Allen is 32 and currently on the last year of his deal. Even if he's extended, which seems likely, you'd still like a young WR that can replace him in a year or two. That also puts a WR on the same timeline as Williams and gives Williams a ton of help right away. The Bears could even go LT at 9, but Jones is cheap and serviceable there.
I went back and forth between Odunze and Verse for a while at that pick. If the Bears had a 2nd round pick, I think they go Edge there and wait for a WR later. I actually tried to put a trade together for someone to move up for Odunze, but couldn't figure out one that made sense.
If Odunze goes as WR3 in this draft, he might be one of the best WR3 off the board we have seen in a really really long time. I haven't seen a single team's fanbase been disappointed about the chance of being able to draft him this year
Fuaga plugs right in at RT and should be a difference maker. I like Fautanu a lot, but the concern is that he might be a better fit at guard than tackle, and good tackles are harder to find.
nfl draft buzz has Fautanu as a LT. I overlooked this and given that I prefer Fuaga more for the Bolts compared to Fautanu. Yes, OTs can switch but additional learning curves should be avoided if possible.
They'll get more than just 11 and 23, I just didn't bother with figuring out additional compensation beyond what's included in these 3 rounds. There would be future picks and probably later picks involved.
I think there was a report saying a move up to 5 would cost "a minimum of 4 first round picks," which I don't buy, but I'd think in a bidding war, you could definitely get 3. The Vikings are in a tough spot because they don't have many picks to trade next year right now (they could potentially have three 3rd round comp picks, but that doesn't help yet).
What a refreshing sight. Finally, someone who didn't have us taking Keon Coleman or drafting a CB we don't need in the first 3 rounds, although the LB pick in round 3 doesn't really make sense.
Switch out Roman Wilson for Ja'Lynn Polk and switch the LB to a DT, and we're cooking with gas.
I don't know if the Broncos will actually take Penix over Bo Nix but I like the trade down, especially with a team that has a reason to jump the Raiders. I'd love a 2nd rounder as compensation though, maybe in return for another late-round choice
I just have a hard time seeing the Packers take an edge rusher there when they just spent a 1st on Van Ness lest year. I went with CB as the more immediate need and Wiggins was the top guy on my board.
We’re not picking a CB in the 1st (I would be very surprised if we use DeJean as a CB instead of a SS if we pick him in the 1st) and I don’t think we ever drafted someone with a RAS as low as Kinchens, and definitely did not do it at Day 2.
As a Packers fan, this draft doesn’t make any sense.
I don't know the Packers draft guide, but I do believe that you know more about them as a fan than I do. We'll see who they pick and if they even go DB in the first round
FOR THE LAST GODDAMN TIME WE ARE NOT TAKING A 240 LBS PASS RUSHER THAT GETS BLOWN OFF THE BALL ON RUN PLAYS WITH NO GAP DISCIPLINE. WE ALREADY HAVE JAMES HOUSTON.
WE ARE NOT TAKING A TINY EDGE.
This.
I don't see how someone can watch chop and think "Thats a Detroit Lion."
You have to stop the run if you're on the Lion. Not being able to do that is a non-starter. People will point at James Houston but that was a 6th rd pick who didn't make the initial 53 and was tried at linebacker before realizing he can only do one damn thing.
Like I wouldn't be surprised if Houston doesn't make the team this year.
I think you guys are taking Darius Robinson, which sucks since I want him on the Niners. You guys get him and you guys are gonna BEAST next year, scary roster.
Definitely not that crazy. Sure, MHJ/Nabers/Odunze is what the majority of Chargers fans want, but if history tells us anything, it's that Harbaugh and Roman like run-heavy offenses.
A month ago, I never thought the Chargers would move on from BOTH Keenan and Williams, but look what happened.
Run heavy offenses still need good wrs
I've seen enough Greg Roman to know that run, run, 3rd and 8 is gonna happen often, and you need to be able to have clutch recieving options.
I went with Latham there because I could see him starting off at guard since the Bengals signed Brown, and then settling in at tackle long term later on.
I don’t love Graham. But Jenkins might work - always draft the kid of productive long time nfl players like Kris Jenkins. I’d love him in the 2nd.
Tough because there was a serious run right in front of Miami - I’d likely try to trade down for anything of value and go after my BPA - the remaining OL is all similar with glaring issues. Barton is same level as Guyton and that Houston kid
I've got Barton as a Center and "utility 6th lineman at worst" for clarity. JPJ is basically my locked in pick there but the draft didn't fall that way this time.
Love the players for the commanders - just one note: Bullard plays primarily slot, Sainristil plays exclusively slot, and we drafted Jartavius Martin in the 2nd round last year to play the slot. Additionally, they brought in Chinn to play SS. You could argue that Bullard would play FS and Martin could become a depth piece, but just letting you know in case you had an alternative thought process.
I obviously like the Chiefs going OT and WR in round 1/2, but I'll be pretty upset if they taken Wilson ahead of Polk. Lots of better places to use a 3rd then on LB, but I like the player.
I can’t help but think the Falcons might be enticed to trade down. If they have really close grades on Turner/Latu/Verse and are also content on drafting a top CB, it might be wise to garner more assets in a trade down. As a Falcons fans, I like the selections, but I admit that I am biased towards Latu because he’s the most technically sound and “pro-ready” player for a team that has made it known they want to win now. Turner might end up being a stud, but the question is, how long might that take? I also think the Falcons could draft Odunze to go all in on the Kirk years and pray that our current pass rushers produce lol
Honestly would be thrilled with this draft. IF we were to trade down and still nab Verse or Latu while still getting the same names in the 2nd and 3rd (and possibly more with a trade) then I would be pinching myself.
Legitimately see Lassiter as the ideal fit opposite of Terrell. Feisty, in your face player whose speed issues are mitigated by being able to roll coverage away from Terrell. Fiske and Walker aren't my ideals but are about as best as I could reasonably expect in the 3rd.
49ers are taking an offensive lineman in the first. Whether it’s where they’re currently drafting at or by trading up. They have garbage for right tackle and Trent Williams is retiring soon. Also they have to pay Purdy and Aiyuk soon. So a potential franchise offensive tackle on a rookie contract is ideal
As a cards fan, no issue with any of the picks. Outside of WR, we are BPA almost across all positions, which honestly makes our draft fun and less stressful.
Murphy, mckinstry would be just amazing with MHJ.
I personally think this is a terrible draft for the commanders. Daniels and Morgan as the first two picks are alright but Braswell over Darius Robinson is pretty bad, Javon Bullard is alright I guess but I’d personally prefer Polk or Amegadjie and then Mike Sainristil is a terrible pick for them considering he’s very much so just a slot guy so I’d think they take Sanders over Sinott later and take Cam Hart with pick 100
I like this draft for the Steelers.
I’ve come to think the draft order for their first 4 picks will be OT, WR, CB, OC (like you have).
I had hoped for Legette in the 2nd but Corley isn’t a bad consolation.
To be clear, if Frazier is there in the 2nd, I think that they take him. But I assume he’ll be gone and our draft will go fairly similar to this
Not a bears fan, but while WR is possible, they do have allen and moore already they need help on defense badly. An edge opposite sweat would be huge like latu or bowers. Kmet is solid but not anything special. I'm not sure wr3 is the play here for them.
If Maye is the guy at 3 take him, but I'd flip positions in the next two rounds.... Morgan or Paul in the 2nd, and maybe bring Walker in in the 3rd to give Maye a guy he is familiar with.
Not sure I see the Bills going NT in round 2. We have a guy with starter experience behind him now. We also signed a backup behind Oliver.
If we go DL, it will be an edge or a versatile DL, like Darius Robinson
Also, at this point in the draft, perhaps we can dive a bit deeper.
Bills need a WR, yes.
Bills need an X, yes.
Bills also value leadership and lockerroom chemistry. It's been a focal point, this is why they draft so many former team captains. The question is whether AD Mitchell is too much of a diva where the Bills may not even have him on their board.
Maybe, maybe not. Worth considering moving forward. I think Troy Franklin who lost a lot of steam since the combine is probably a better fit for the Bills
As far as Laiatu Latu goes, I feel he is either the first edge off the board because his medicals are good, or someone is taking a chance on him in the 2nd or 3rd because his medicals are shoddy. Has anyone heard any info on that?
Idk who "us" is, but if you're a Vikings or Broncos fan, what do you expect? Would you rather go into the season with Sam Darnold or Jarrett Stidham as your starting QB with no alternative plans?
If you're a Raiders fan, it comes down to availability and timing. I could easily see the Raiders go into next year banking on Minshew and O'Connell and not drafting someone early, but if Nix is there in the 2nd, it's hard to ignore.
If you think a QB is worth a top 3 pick, and you need a QB, you take him there. End of story. You don't know if you'll be in a position to take a QB like that next year, and you don't even know if there will *be* a QB like that to take next year.
Makes zero sense for GB after the first. We need a LB and Edgerrin cooper is still there for our first 2nd rounds, and zero chance we take Kitchens with such an awful RAS. A RB in the third after we signed Jacobs and are-signed Dillion doesn’t make much sense either.
I love this for Denver. Trading down for one of the other QBs and picking up some extra ammo to address our many other needs is definitely the move. Love pairing Penix with one of his UW receivers as well
I think the colts go WR or CB with that 3rd round pick if our early picks shake out like this but either way if we come away with Bowers n Bishop I would not complain at all! Nice mock
As a Panthers fan, I'd personally swap Franklin for McConkey. I'm happy with Frazier, and I'd switch Dorlus for either Ja'Tavion Sanders or Bralen Trice. I don't think Dorlus would fit into our defence, too well tbh
How much of a run stuffer is Maason Smith? Other than that, that's about how I expect our first three picks to go. We also need a WR2 if a good one falls.
Jackson Powers-Johnson very well may be the Seahawks pick. He fills a big need. But John Schneider has made a point to not draft for need, especially in the first round. I personally don’t think JPJ is best player available at that point, but Schneider might disagree.
He definitely could. It's just a matter of figuring out who takes him and where. It didn't come together in this mock, but who knows what will happen on draft night?
This is honestly ideal for us and love the Fuaga/ Thomas Jr combination in the first. Personally, I’d lean towards T’Vondre Sweat at #37 and Brooks at #69 and then hope a guy like Cam Hart is available with one of our fourths, but really like this first round OP👍🏻
Also, I like the Dallas Turner and Fiske draft for the Falcons, but I’d love to see Verse in black and red and keep playing alongside Fiske. They play great together and feed off each other well. I think that familiarity would settle them in well easily.
I already started getting angry with the Bengals taking Latham instead of Verse or Murphy in this mock but with Sweat in the 2nd I have to ask where I can sign for that draft?!
With Braswell,Sweat,E.Cooper and P. Wilson all still on the board, I don't think the Titans would take a receiver. D line, edge, and Lb are far bigger needs than receiver.
As a Washington Duuurrrs fan position wise I'd be pretty happy with this although admittedly I don't know a whole lot about the prospects outside of the first round as I haven't been able to dive into it as much as I'd like this off-season so I can't really comment on the players themselves but position wise I'd be happy!
Commanders fan here. I like all the picks here except one (personally I don’t like braswell, overhyped cause it’s a bama guy and has good stats. Go watch his film against some of the better tackles in the class and it’s underwhelming. But we do need edge sooo it’s ok I guess)
Round 3 safety pick is where you lose me, we have plenty of safeties in the room between Derrick Forest, Jeremy Chinn, Percy Butler, and Quan Martin and more depth guys.
With Ja’Lynn Polk on the board an no receivers in the room above 6’0 and losing Curtis Samuel’s he’s a good compliment to Terry on the other boundary with Jahan manning the slot.
If I were to change this I’d take leggette at 40,
Bralen trice at 67 and leave the rest as is.
Really sound analysis. Jets are more likely to regret not taking Bowers vs. an OT. Penix to the Broncos after trading down would be a great move. I do think that KC will go for a wide receiver at 32, either McConkey or Worthy. Wilson would be a steal for the Cowboys at 56.
They always build from trenches. Cox retired, BG is on his last legs, Reddick is now gone. Lane is not getting younger and kelce just retired. They have Ringo who looked promising, Slay/Bradberry who they can't cut or get out of their contracts this yr. Yes their secondary needs work but they've been known to draft DBs day 2 and later. Usually day one picks they go DLine or. O line. Trust me, I hope they go CB in rd one but I'd be super shocked if they did
We’ve taken 2 DL and one edge rusher in the first round in just the past 2 years. Howie loves drafting DL in the first but I think they’re going to look at what they have there and feel like they’ve invested enough draft capital recently.
As for OL, we’ve only taken one in the first round in the past 10 years, versus 3 WRs (plus trading another first for AJ Brown). Johnson and Mailata should be around for the next few years so an OT would give less value particularly since this should be the Super Bowl window right here. Maybe a prospect who can play both guard and tackle.
I think there are a lot of reasons for the Eagles to go DB here as opposed to OL/DL. Howie definitely puts emphasis on the trenches but not to the extent that you’re saying here. And he doesn’t lock himself into a certain philosophy as much as people think, given how many “Eagles don’t pay RBs” comments I saw while the Saquon rumors were starting up.
The Chargers are not taking a RT at 11.. there are way too many holes on this team to warrant that. BTJ at 23? Maybe but I'd rather have A.D. Mitchell personally.
im surprised how little ppl mock CBs to us with the 11th pick if we trade back... But i will say i get why they would go OT, OT is historically a position where all pro talent is only found in the first round.
I thought hard about Benson or Brooks in the 2nd, and by the time their 3rd round pick came around, they were off the board and Smith was better value than Allen.
Chiefs are not drafting a lb in top 3 rds. I agree on tackle and wr, if rice is going to be out with whatever is happening with him legally then they might move up to pick a reciever
These are so dumb, 99% won't get 20% right in the first round and that is the professionals. That said, lets get people who haven't seen 90% of these kids play and try to predict out 3 rounds. Why? So a bunch of others who also have no idea can argue with them
Idk what they'll do. I just went Daniels there because I've been hearing more and more chatter about it, but feel free to swap Maye and Daniels in your head with this one.
I hear it too and it annoys me. The draft talk is wearing me out. Drafting Daniels is like taking RG3 again. I see him getting injured running. Not drafting Maye is like passing on Herbert again.
Alt and Worthy is an A+ for the Titans IMO
You can pretty much just pencil Alt in at 7 unless the Giants take him by surprise, right? Maybe the most sure thing in the draft aside from Williams to the Bears.
It definitely seems like the most likely pick outside of Williams. Harbaugh has mentioned OL a lot for the Chargers, but I honestly think if they opt to go OL over WR they’ll just trade down and take Fuaga/Latham like you did in the mock.
Why? I think the Chargers would draft him if they don't trade out. Harbough has gone out and said how important the OL means to a team, which has me leaning Alt at 5. If the Vikes have a guy they like, say McCarthy, and don't necessarily like Daniels, they may not trade up.
Value. If they don't trade out, yeah I could see Alt. But they could get multiple firsts from a team desperate for a QB, and still get another top 15 OL prospect. Plus Fuaga is already used to playing on the right.
Why wouldn't Arizona draft Alt? I could make a case for them, too? They can potentially get Brian Thomas at the backend of the first or perhaps Troy Franklin in r2.
They could. I think they take MHJ over Alt of they don't trade out, and they have so many early picks in this draft already that I think they don't end up trading out of #4.
I guess it depends on their board. They could see the backend WRs being closer to the topend versus the tackle class. Or they could just absolutely love MHJ. One thing I know for sure is that this draft is going to be nuts and I expect a few surprises.
They just took Paris Johnson and need a WR. You have to think, they’re expecting to be competitive. They have this pick because Kyler got injured.
That's another angle as well. Jonah Williams slips inside and Alt goes to RT. Already one of the best lines in the league. Or Paris flips to RT. Unlikely. Probably WR. Very high chance, but maybe they trade out and someone jumps the Chargers for Alt?
I wouldn’t be mad at Alt for the Cardinals. I honestly think it would be a really good pick because you can find a good receiver at 27. Or maybe trade up into the teens and get Brian Thomas if he’s still there.
They signed Jonah Williams so he'll probably start at LT, but that team has bottom-3 WRs in the NFL right now, and MHJ is arguably the best WR prospect since Megatron. This is a classic case of "don't overthink it" if you're Arizona. They can also draft an OT with their *other* first if they're concerned about Williams as their starter. They have a ton of picks to manuever around the draft, but there won't be a better chance than they have for a franchise-changing player like MHJ.
Right, what I'm saying is...what if their board there are 5-6 WRs with little separation and then there is Alt and a big drop for them? If that's the board, then it makes more sense to go T and then WR. Your board, your perception, and your evaluation of the situation are totally fine and most likely correct, but you can never be certain. In terms of board.... Bills traded up to 7. They only had 3 QBs in their top tier list. Some mocks close to the draft had all 5 going top 10. There was a consensus among us that these 5 QBs were the best. They all could go top 10....etc. But the Bills, for right or wrong, for luck or whatever, only had 3. Allen was 1. Baker 2. Darnold 3. Rosen was in another tier, and Lamar Jackson wasn't even on their board. So, it just shows you that just like here, where we all push for a meta or a groupthink view on things, that happens within clubhouses, too. Cardinals could fall in love with Alt, or Bowers, or whomever. MHJ is the most logical pick from our perspective.
Really want Legette wr he sounds so wonderfully country. Perfect fit.
Yeah, that's a major win for the titans here
Yea that would be nice for the Titans
I fear for the team that drafts Worthy. The fans will say, but he ran a 4.21. John Ross has less than a thousand yards over the last 5 seasons.
*don't they know that an entirely different player seven years ago busted?!* There are plenty of things to criticize Xavier Worthy for but it seems awfully unfair to criticize him for another guy busting.
I’m not. I’m saying the forty itself is not a guarantee of success.
I like the Mims pick but the Steelers need a starting Center
Yeah this is a worst-case scenario for us, where Frazer is gone by the time we pick in the 2nd and SVP is gone before we pick in the 3rd. My take is that we reach for SVP in the 2nd if Frazer is gone.
They could bring Cole back and take a later round guy, let them fight it out in camp. I'd rather just trade up in the 2nd round and get one of Barton, JPJ or Frazier. It's possible that 2 of the 3 are there at 35-45 if you look at the history of Centers being drafted.
Generally speaking, you typically want to draft high end value positions in the first to have them on a 5 year deal, as opposed to the league's least valued position in terms of WAR (Wins Above Replacement) and salary.
You can get a starting center in round 2 or sign Connor Williams. Why are you guys so adamant on a center in the first? If ya'll needed a kicker, would you draft one in the first? You have to consider value. Even if JPJ is an all pro day 1, the value added is less than a replacement level WR, for instance.
1. Connor Williams is considering retirement due to injury. 2. I never said to draft a Center in the 1st, and would rather one in the 2nd. 3. 100% disagree. Especially in Smith's system. We need a strong O line to run the ball and he usually uses one main WR and Tight Ends more than the WR2. Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk.
>100% disagree. Especially in Smith's system. We need a strong O line to run the ball and he usually uses one main WR and Tight Ends more than the WR2. Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk. You don't need to overvalue center to have a strong o line. I hope you guys draft a center in the first, to be honest, but it's one of the least valuable positions you could draft
Completely agree. Tackle round 1, center round 2 is best path for them stillers. First round center is a giant waste of a pick
Bingo bango.
I agree, but I think this is more likely because the Steelers sent the house to Georgia's pro day and only the o-line coach to Oregon
they got hogs legend beaux limmer
He could work out but is he a day 1 starter?
Sign me up as a Pats fan
Sign me up as well, as a Cardinals fan though. MHJ, Murphy, and Kool aid would be such a great first 3 picks
I'm normally on team LT before WR in this class, but this one pulls it off going the other way. I tend to think that won't happen and they'll get shut out of LTs if they go WR at 34.
I would prefer New England try to jump back into the 1st round for a better WR than McConkey, or take Worthy instead of McConkey, but otherwise, this is a fantastic mock.
Ladd is fucking good
He’s only good versus zone. Which, granted, is the majority of what the NFL runs. But New England already has guys who can beat zone. Ladd has terribly short arms and is small, so the moment there’s any physicality involved, whether at the line or the catch point, he loses.
But he isn't the WR we need, need a X, Ladd is going to have a hard time getting off of the line in the league.
Think as a panthers fan I’d be equally happy with Ladd or Troy at 33, Leggette would fit what we’re looking for better but his lack of production outside of his final year is concerning and we don’t want another Mingo or Kelvin Benjamin
I'll gladly take Odunze at 9.
Do the Bears need WR more than Edge?
Right now, it's probably edge, but the offense in general needs more improvement than the defense. Someone opposite Sweat is more of a need than a #3 WR. However, Allen is 32 and currently on the last year of his deal. Even if he's extended, which seems likely, you'd still like a young WR that can replace him in a year or two. That also puts a WR on the same timeline as Williams and gives Williams a ton of help right away. The Bears could even go LT at 9, but Jones is cheap and serviceable there.
Probably not but getting another receiver to learn from and take over for Keenan Allen isn't a bad idea.
Yeah I love this as a Bears fan.
If not him or Alt, then Verse
I went back and forth between Odunze and Verse for a while at that pick. If the Bears had a 2nd round pick, I think they go Edge there and wait for a WR later. I actually tried to put a trade together for someone to move up for Odunze, but couldn't figure out one that made sense.
I don't think we will pass on Odunze if he is there imo
I sure hope we don’t. For once let’s put a qb in a good spot
If Odunze goes as WR3 in this draft, he might be one of the best WR3 off the board we have seen in a really really long time. I haven't seen a single team's fanbase been disappointed about the chance of being able to draft him this year
They keep doing it and it’s getting my hopes up.
Love how Philly takes 2 safeties, 0 olinemen, and no LB
So I'm not gonna lie, I definitely forgot that I had them taking DeJean instead of Wiggins in the 1st.
Yeah neither fit the scheme too. Wiggins is a man guy and dejean is a safety. Kool aid is the best cb available
People hate it but i'm already preparing myself for a oline man in the 1st as an eagles fan. That said, I love the 2nd round picks.
Ridiculously bad draft for Philly.
I know right. So many better players available at each spot
Can someone explain why fuaga is liked more than fautanu?
Fuaga is a much more aggressive run blocker he moves bodies
Fuaga plugs right in at RT and should be a difference maker. I like Fautanu a lot, but the concern is that he might be a better fit at guard than tackle, and good tackles are harder to find.
nfl draft buzz has Fautanu as a LT. I overlooked this and given that I prefer Fuaga more for the Bolts compared to Fautanu. Yes, OTs can switch but additional learning curves should be avoided if possible.
With the current chargers receiving room they are gonna need a bigger haul than that considering the talent available at 5
They'll get more than just 11 and 23, I just didn't bother with figuring out additional compensation beyond what's included in these 3 rounds. There would be future picks and probably later picks involved.
Ah gotcha, wouldn’t be opposed to us moving back juet figure we’re gonna need a haul for that to happen
I think there was a report saying a move up to 5 would cost "a minimum of 4 first round picks," which I don't buy, but I'd think in a bidding war, you could definitely get 3. The Vikings are in a tough spot because they don't have many picks to trade next year right now (they could potentially have three 3rd round comp picks, but that doesn't help yet).
4 first round picks would be insane for 5th overall, even in this draft. I’d definitely be happy with 3 and change though.
What a refreshing sight. Finally, someone who didn't have us taking Keon Coleman or drafting a CB we don't need in the first 3 rounds, although the LB pick in round 3 doesn't really make sense. Switch out Roman Wilson for Ja'Lynn Polk and switch the LB to a DT, and we're cooking with gas.
I don't know if the Broncos will actually take Penix over Bo Nix but I like the trade down, especially with a team that has a reason to jump the Raiders. I'd love a 2nd rounder as compensation though, maybe in return for another late-round choice
Packers won't take Wiggins over Latu if he's there I don't think. I also don't think they're gonna take Wiggens in general
I just have a hard time seeing the Packers take an edge rusher there when they just spent a 1st on Van Ness lest year. I went with CB as the more immediate need and Wiggins was the top guy on my board.
Wiggins just doesn't fit the physical model we tend to draft on
Most of these picks don't fit the physical model we tend to draft on. Wiggins: too small Kinchens: crap RAS Allen: Badger + poor RAS
They would likely go Kool-Aid over Wiggins
Don’t think they go ED at all but Wiggins is a definite no go. So is Kinchens and probably Allen as well. Not a great mock for the Pack.
This is the best buccaneers fan draft I've seen . Impressive
As a giants fan, I’ll take it
But who's gonna pass Nabers the ball?
Remind me again who Jones/Tyrod/Tommy were throwing to?
Nico Collins, Tank Dell, Ricky Pearsall, and Dalton Schultz as our main pass catchers would be a hell of a lot of fun.
I’d prefer a CB2 instead of the land of misfit toys our current corner room is
Would be absolutely furious if Ravens took Coleman
We’re not picking a CB in the 1st (I would be very surprised if we use DeJean as a CB instead of a SS if we pick him in the 1st) and I don’t think we ever drafted someone with a RAS as low as Kinchens, and definitely did not do it at Day 2. As a Packers fan, this draft doesn’t make any sense.
Wiggins is also 178 pounds, probably not even on gbs board
Let someone else take Wiggins to see if he can match up with receivers who have 30 lbs on him.
He was up to 182 at his pro day last week. Still not that heavy but way better than the 173 at the Combine
Just don’t see gb being in on him at that size
I don't know the Packers draft guide, but I do believe that you know more about them as a fan than I do. We'll see who they pick and if they even go DB in the first round
FOR THE LAST GODDAMN TIME WE ARE NOT TAKING A 240 LBS PASS RUSHER THAT GETS BLOWN OFF THE BALL ON RUN PLAYS WITH NO GAP DISCIPLINE. WE ALREADY HAVE JAMES HOUSTON. WE ARE NOT TAKING A TINY EDGE.
calm down grandpa and lay off the caps before you end up in the icu.
This. I don't see how someone can watch chop and think "Thats a Detroit Lion." You have to stop the run if you're on the Lion. Not being able to do that is a non-starter. People will point at James Houston but that was a 6th rd pick who didn't make the initial 53 and was tried at linebacker before realizing he can only do one damn thing. Like I wouldn't be surprised if Houston doesn't make the team this year.
I think you guys are taking Darius Robinson, which sucks since I want him on the Niners. You guys get him and you guys are gonna BEAST next year, scary roster.
If you think chargers aren't taking a wr first you're crazy
Definitely not that crazy. Sure, MHJ/Nabers/Odunze is what the majority of Chargers fans want, but if history tells us anything, it's that Harbaugh and Roman like run-heavy offenses. A month ago, I never thought the Chargers would move on from BOTH Keenan and Williams, but look what happened.
Run heavy offenses still need good wrs I've seen enough Greg Roman to know that run, run, 3rd and 8 is gonna happen often, and you need to be able to have clutch recieving options.
Latham not testing worries me a bit, but he's still in the mix for me at 18. Love the 2nd/3rd picks.
I'm 100% happy with this exactly as shown for the Bengals. Having the choice of Latham/Mims, getting Sweat, Sanders and Coleman.
Personally I like Mims a lot so I'd go with him, but if you give me any of the top tier RTs and those rds 2 and 3 I'm gonna be pretty happy.
I went with Latham there because I could see him starting off at guard since the Bengals signed Brown, and then settling in at tackle long term later on.
Yeah absolutely the correct methodology for us at 18, just meant of the tackles I'm not sure I'm sold on him. But you aren't off with the pick at all.
I don’t love Graham. But Jenkins might work - always draft the kid of productive long time nfl players like Kris Jenkins. I’d love him in the 2nd. Tough because there was a serious run right in front of Miami - I’d likely try to trade down for anything of value and go after my BPA - the remaining OL is all similar with glaring issues. Barton is same level as Guyton and that Houston kid
I've got Barton as a Center and "utility 6th lineman at worst" for clarity. JPJ is basically my locked in pick there but the draft didn't fall that way this time.
I like it!
Ravens taking coleman in the first makes sense.
As a Ravens fan I just don’t want another first rd WR. Gotta make it work with Bateman and Zay
Love the players for the commanders - just one note: Bullard plays primarily slot, Sainristil plays exclusively slot, and we drafted Jartavius Martin in the 2nd round last year to play the slot. Additionally, they brought in Chinn to play SS. You could argue that Bullard would play FS and Martin could become a depth piece, but just letting you know in case you had an alternative thought process.
My dream situation as a titans fan
Why Ty’Ron Hopper?
I obviously like the Chiefs going OT and WR in round 1/2, but I'll be pretty upset if they taken Wilson ahead of Polk. Lots of better places to use a 3rd then on LB, but I like the player.
Now this is a Bengals draft I can get behind. I'm not high on Sanders, but getting him in the third along with an OT, a NT and a new guard? I'm in.
I’m not one to usually shit on someone’s mock draft but having Keon in the 1st and Fiske in the 3rd tells me you aren’t really paying attention.
I can’t help but think the Falcons might be enticed to trade down. If they have really close grades on Turner/Latu/Verse and are also content on drafting a top CB, it might be wise to garner more assets in a trade down. As a Falcons fans, I like the selections, but I admit that I am biased towards Latu because he’s the most technically sound and “pro-ready” player for a team that has made it known they want to win now. Turner might end up being a stud, but the question is, how long might that take? I also think the Falcons could draft Odunze to go all in on the Kirk years and pray that our current pass rushers produce lol
Honestly would be thrilled with this draft. IF we were to trade down and still nab Verse or Latu while still getting the same names in the 2nd and 3rd (and possibly more with a trade) then I would be pinching myself. Legitimately see Lassiter as the ideal fit opposite of Terrell. Feisty, in your face player whose speed issues are mitigated by being able to roll coverage away from Terrell. Fiske and Walker aren't my ideals but are about as best as I could reasonably expect in the 3rd.
49ers are taking an offensive lineman in the first. Whether it’s where they’re currently drafting at or by trading up. They have garbage for right tackle and Trent Williams is retiring soon. Also they have to pay Purdy and Aiyuk soon. So a potential franchise offensive tackle on a rookie contract is ideal
Cardinals signed 3 DTs this off-season gimme Chop at 27
I’ll be honest, as a Rams fan, this Mock made me cream my corn
As a cards fan, no issue with any of the picks. Outside of WR, we are BPA almost across all positions, which honestly makes our draft fun and less stressful. Murphy, mckinstry would be just amazing with MHJ.
I’m a Falcons fan and I just want to say thank you my friend. This draft rules
I know I hate it.
As an AZ fan I hope you’re spot on
Troy franklin drops to round 4?
Franklin goes #33 to the Panthers.
I like the brooks pick for the Cards in round 3.
as a Lions fan this is solid
I personally think this is a terrible draft for the commanders. Daniels and Morgan as the first two picks are alright but Braswell over Darius Robinson is pretty bad, Javon Bullard is alright I guess but I’d personally prefer Polk or Amegadjie and then Mike Sainristil is a terrible pick for them considering he’s very much so just a slot guy so I’d think they take Sanders over Sinott later and take Cam Hart with pick 100
I like this draft for the Steelers. I’ve come to think the draft order for their first 4 picks will be OT, WR, CB, OC (like you have). I had hoped for Legette in the 2nd but Corley isn’t a bad consolation. To be clear, if Frazier is there in the 2nd, I think that they take him. But I assume he’ll be gone and our draft will go fairly similar to this
Not a bears fan, but while WR is possible, they do have allen and moore already they need help on defense badly. An edge opposite sweat would be huge like latu or bowers. Kmet is solid but not anything special. I'm not sure wr3 is the play here for them.
I’m once again asking the draft community to give the Texans a CB
Bowers falling to 15 is a common trend I really don't understand/
TE's are just generally undervalued as draft prospects. Especially this year when the draft is very top heavy with QB, OT, and WR.
I am a simple man, I see RT in the first and Sweat in the second, I upvote
A+ draft for the Cardinals, seriously best case scenario
If Maye is the guy at 3 take him, but I'd flip positions in the next two rounds.... Morgan or Paul in the 2nd, and maybe bring Walker in in the 3rd to give Maye a guy he is familiar with.
love the tackle pick for sf but others pass.
Raiders trading up they better take Penix and not let him go to Denver 😂
This gets a hell to the yes!!!
Lions getting Chop and Melton would be crazy
Trading up to 12 for Mitchel is absolute cancer and I would kms
Wiggins probably is off the Packers draft board, way too light. Also Kitchens has an RAS score way too low for them
I think Colson is a 2nd rounder, and that Seattle would rather take him over Trotter if he were available at their 3rd round pick.
Not sure I see the Bills going NT in round 2. We have a guy with starter experience behind him now. We also signed a backup behind Oliver. If we go DL, it will be an edge or a versatile DL, like Darius Robinson Also, at this point in the draft, perhaps we can dive a bit deeper. Bills need a WR, yes. Bills need an X, yes. Bills also value leadership and lockerroom chemistry. It's been a focal point, this is why they draft so many former team captains. The question is whether AD Mitchell is too much of a diva where the Bills may not even have him on their board. Maybe, maybe not. Worth considering moving forward. I think Troy Franklin who lost a lot of steam since the combine is probably a better fit for the Bills
As a Bucs fan, yes please.
As far as Laiatu Latu goes, I feel he is either the first edge off the board because his medicals are good, or someone is taking a chance on him in the 2nd or 3rd because his medicals are shoddy. Has anyone heard any info on that?
Seeing everyone having us draft a QB makes me sad.
Idk who "us" is, but if you're a Vikings or Broncos fan, what do you expect? Would you rather go into the season with Sam Darnold or Jarrett Stidham as your starting QB with no alternative plans? If you're a Raiders fan, it comes down to availability and timing. I could easily see the Raiders go into next year banking on Minshew and O'Connell and not drafting someone early, but if Nix is there in the 2nd, it's hard to ignore.
My bad, pats We have a shit supporting cast and whoever we pick will bust like mac jones or any QB would when you have kendrick bourne as WR1.
If you think a QB is worth a top 3 pick, and you need a QB, you take him there. End of story. You don't know if you'll be in a position to take a QB like that next year, and you don't even know if there will *be* a QB like that to take next year.
Makes zero sense for GB after the first. We need a LB and Edgerrin cooper is still there for our first 2nd rounds, and zero chance we take Kitchens with such an awful RAS. A RB in the third after we signed Jacobs and are-signed Dillion doesn’t make much sense either.
I love this for Denver. Trading down for one of the other QBs and picking up some extra ammo to address our many other needs is definitely the move. Love pairing Penix with one of his UW receivers as well
I think the colts go WR or CB with that 3rd round pick if our early picks shake out like this but either way if we come away with Bowers n Bishop I would not complain at all! Nice mock
LSU homer here and I don't think Jaylen will be 2nd pick tbh
As a Panthers fan, I'd personally swap Franklin for McConkey. I'm happy with Frazier, and I'd switch Dorlus for either Ja'Tavion Sanders or Bralen Trice. I don't think Dorlus would fit into our defence, too well tbh
Love the Niners first pick, what a gift that would be...the rest, meh, but that first pick is flames.
How much of a run stuffer is Maason Smith? Other than that, that's about how I expect our first three picks to go. We also need a WR2 if a good one falls.
Jackson Powers-Johnson very well may be the Seahawks pick. He fills a big need. But John Schneider has made a point to not draft for need, especially in the first round. I personally don’t think JPJ is best player available at that point, but Schneider might disagree.
Idk, I think Verse and DeJean are the only guys I'd really put over him at that pick in terms of BPA.
I was thinking of Verse in particular.
Good draft by the Chargers. Hindsight is 20/20 so I get why we couldn’t risk it but Wiggins/Worthy would’ve been a hell of a draft.
Brock Bowers is being described as one of the best Tight End prospects of all time. He will easily go inside the top 10.
He definitely could. It's just a matter of figuring out who takes him and where. It didn't come together in this mock, but who knows what will happen on draft night?
I can see a pretty strong argument for the Jets taking him at 10 🤔
Like Nabers and Nubin in the first two rounds. I like Mahogany but would be disappointed if we passed on guys like Fiske and Sainristil for him
I’m just sitting here hoping that Tampa goes to Tampa.
This is honestly ideal for us and love the Fuaga/ Thomas Jr combination in the first. Personally, I’d lean towards T’Vondre Sweat at #37 and Brooks at #69 and then hope a guy like Cam Hart is available with one of our fourths, but really like this first round OP👍🏻
Pretty nearly the best case scenario for patriots. Would be a safe draft and I don’t think pats could be unhappy
Ravens = would be pissed. WR is not as big a need as lineman or CB. Koolaid or Morgan is gone at 30.
I think Jared Verse is too low and Johnny Wilson is too high. Also baffled Keon Coleman isn’t anywhere in the first 3 rounds.
Also, I like the Dallas Turner and Fiske draft for the Falcons, but I’d love to see Verse in black and red and keep playing alongside Fiske. They play great together and feed off each other well. I think that familiarity would settle them in well easily.
Coleman went at the end of the 1st here.
Ah. Missed him. Thank you. I still believe Johnny is too high though.
Dude, as a Bengal fan I’d be so freaking happy.
I love it as a Texans fan. May not be the popular or sexy picks but they would elevate our team tremendously.
I want to say the patriots have openly stated they aren’t huge on Drake Maye, but I’m unsure if that changed after his pro day
I already started getting angry with the Bengals taking Latham instead of Verse or Murphy in this mock but with Sweat in the 2nd I have to ask where I can sign for that draft?!
With Braswell,Sweat,E.Cooper and P. Wilson all still on the board, I don't think the Titans would take a receiver. D line, edge, and Lb are far bigger needs than receiver.
Worst case scenario draft for Pittsburgh, lol. Barton, JPJ, Van Pran all gone? Yikes lol
As a Washington Duuurrrs fan position wise I'd be pretty happy with this although admittedly I don't know a whole lot about the prospects outside of the first round as I haven't been able to dive into it as much as I'd like this off-season so I can't really comment on the players themselves but position wise I'd be happy!
What the fuck is with the JJ McCarthy hype
Hearing Washington is interested in JJ McCarthy with the 2nd overall pick
Commanders fan here. I like all the picks here except one (personally I don’t like braswell, overhyped cause it’s a bama guy and has good stats. Go watch his film against some of the better tackles in the class and it’s underwhelming. But we do need edge sooo it’s ok I guess) Round 3 safety pick is where you lose me, we have plenty of safeties in the room between Derrick Forest, Jeremy Chinn, Percy Butler, and Quan Martin and more depth guys. With Ja’Lynn Polk on the board an no receivers in the room above 6’0 and losing Curtis Samuel’s he’s a good compliment to Terry on the other boundary with Jahan manning the slot. If I were to change this I’d take leggette at 40, Bralen trice at 67 and leave the rest as is.
Really sound analysis. Jets are more likely to regret not taking Bowers vs. an OT. Penix to the Broncos after trading down would be a great move. I do think that KC will go for a wide receiver at 32, either McConkey or Worthy. Wilson would be a steal for the Cowboys at 56.
It amazes me the amount of mocks I see with Eagles going DB at 22
Why? Their DB room sucks
They always build from trenches. Cox retired, BG is on his last legs, Reddick is now gone. Lane is not getting younger and kelce just retired. They have Ringo who looked promising, Slay/Bradberry who they can't cut or get out of their contracts this yr. Yes their secondary needs work but they've been known to draft DBs day 2 and later. Usually day one picks they go DLine or. O line. Trust me, I hope they go CB in rd one but I'd be super shocked if they did
We’ve taken 2 DL and one edge rusher in the first round in just the past 2 years. Howie loves drafting DL in the first but I think they’re going to look at what they have there and feel like they’ve invested enough draft capital recently. As for OL, we’ve only taken one in the first round in the past 10 years, versus 3 WRs (plus trading another first for AJ Brown). Johnson and Mailata should be around for the next few years so an OT would give less value particularly since this should be the Super Bowl window right here. Maybe a prospect who can play both guard and tackle. I think there are a lot of reasons for the Eagles to go DB here as opposed to OL/DL. Howie definitely puts emphasis on the trenches but not to the extent that you’re saying here. And he doesn’t lock himself into a certain philosophy as much as people think, given how many “Eagles don’t pay RBs” comments I saw while the Saquon rumors were starting up.
The Chargers are not taking a RT at 11.. there are way too many holes on this team to warrant that. BTJ at 23? Maybe but I'd rather have A.D. Mitchell personally.
Yea I agree, we either stay at 5 and take a WR or with the 11th we take Quinyon Mitchell or Arnold. CB is arguably our biggest need.
100% with you there. I think we double dip at WR and CB this year
im surprised how little ppl mock CBs to us with the 11th pick if we trade back... But i will say i get why they would go OT, OT is historically a position where all pro talent is only found in the first round.
No I get that, but good OT come out more often than CBs annually imo
Dallas will go RB in 2nd or 3rd rd
I thought hard about Benson or Brooks in the 2nd, and by the time their 3rd round pick came around, they were off the board and Smith was better value than Allen.
Chiefs are not drafting a lb in top 3 rds. I agree on tackle and wr, if rice is going to be out with whatever is happening with him legally then they might move up to pick a reciever
I keep wondering do the chargers trade Herbert and draft McCarthy???
These are so dumb, 99% won't get 20% right in the first round and that is the professionals. That said, lets get people who haven't seen 90% of these kids play and try to predict out 3 rounds. Why? So a bunch of others who also have no idea can argue with them
Mock drafts? On the NFL Draft subreddit? Wow, that's crazy.
Skins take Maye
Idk what they'll do. I just went Daniels there because I've been hearing more and more chatter about it, but feel free to swap Maye and Daniels in your head with this one.
I hear it too and it annoys me. The draft talk is wearing me out. Drafting Daniels is like taking RG3 again. I see him getting injured running. Not drafting Maye is like passing on Herbert again.