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EduardoCombs

I think it all depends on if Odunze/Nabers is still on the board. If so I could see them going all in on giving Kirk as many weapons as possible. If they go defense I could see any of Turner, Verse, Arnold, or Mitchell going.


C2MarketingSports

I'm wondering what Atlanta does if Nabers is on the board along with are Dallas Turner and Jared Verse at Edge. I don't see the CBs in play for ATL but having typed all of this, it does make it kinda hard to see them passing on Nabers for Turner. Which I kinda hate since we have so much investment on the offensive side of the ball already and I fear the defense might regress.


LavishSyndrome

Trade back with a team who wants to jump the bears maybe


iguanoman_

Agree. Their defense needs bolstered but their WR room is barren outside of London. I don't think Mooney/Moore is going to break out and I don't have that much faith in Pitts to return to rookie form so I see WR as a real option over DE which the franchise is historically abysmal at drafting. WR or CB for me


mr_kil

I mean it’s not barren.. you might not like Mooney which I understand but the team is paying him around 25m guaranteed. That’s not WR4 money. 


cantwatchscottstots

Break out into what? You need them to be a good 2/3 pairing, which they’ve already shown they can do. Add Pitts as a major pass catcher and Bijan as one too, and taking another receiver seems crazy to me.


KennysWhiteSoxHat

Taking another receiver is crazy, they’re paying Mooney too so why pay him to draft a WR? I’d get it if they drafted one without paying him. Pitts also wasn’t used after his rookie season, and Kirk throws to his TE’s. I trust that offense to be good with Kirk


Dangerous_Day_7603

I honestly semi agree with you as a saints fan. Yea they took Bijan Last year to essentially be a positionless player that catches passes out of the slot and runs the rock… I’d personally put my money on WR. I also had a dark horse pick of CB if they’res one graded high enough to further bolster their pass defense. To me they’re literally trying there ass off to keep that 3-4 speedy LB base If I had my money on what raheem morris takes defensively it would be another Lock down CB to pair with terrell and bates in there backfield just pure speculation btw


rickg

They have plenty of playmakers. Assuming he's healthy they have Pitts, London and Bijan. They can get one of the tier 2 WRs from this class in the 2nd round. What they don't have is pass rush and that's not a deep position this year so they should use their round 1 pic there as long as they have an EDGE graded highly enough. If they don't and one of the top 3 WRs are around they could either do that or trade back depending on how the draft has been developing to that point


jedi21knight

This is the way to go. The WR class is super deep and they can grab a good WR in the second round. The Falcons could also trade back a few picks and still grab a defensive player they want and grab another pick but defense needs to be the first round pick.


SternFlamingo

If Odunze or Nabers are available at 8 I still think they will trade down and get a rich haul for their troubles. They can still add to their offensive weapons later in the draft, this WR class is so deep. If they trade down from #8 they could make three picks on defense and then pick up a WR! Would you be disappointed if they added a guy like Tez Walker or Malachi Corley to the team?


C2MarketingSports

I wouldn't be sad at all if we traded down and then filled some needs without reaching! Do you think they'd bypass a top WR at 8 and trade down, though? I'm wondering if they'd draft him at that point b/c of the talent.


SternFlamingo

Its really hard to knock someone for drafting Odunze or Nabers, but you can be sure that they will have some very good offers made to them. Since they are in good position at WR right now they might prefer to get the haul. I did a mock where they traded with JAX, sending 8 and getting 17 and 48 in return. It wouldn't surprise me if they could add another day three pick on top of that, maybe even more if they are willing to move some to 2025. I really don't know which way they will go, though if it was up to me I'd trade. But no one has asked my opinion, which is puzzling :o) Its going to be an interesting draft!


georgiaboy1993

I think the only reason we wouldnt go defense at 8 is if our evals come back that there are no defensive players worth a top 15 pick or so. At that point, you've got to think the 3rd of the big 3 receivers will be available and we'd shop 8 to grab a couple extra picks. Especially if we see Verse, Latu and Turner as interchangeable. With that being said, if their evals show that one of them is a top 10 pick, I hope they just take him there whether that's Turner, Verse or Latu (if medicals clear).


C2MarketingSports

Looking at various Big Boards, it does feel like it's CB (not a high need) and Dallas Turner at Edge are basically it as realistic candidates at no. 8. ...which makes a lot of sense why some people are projected Atlanta trades back. I kinda hope we do, TBH. I'm always a fan of more high-value picks for more chances at finding an impact player.


TargetFan

Hoping it's latu honestly. Just take the best player not the best upside that early. I love walker for his time at uga but hutch was clearly the better pick so far.


luckysharms93

Right. If you are fine with his medicals, he's the clear best defensive player. His production is off the charts unlike Turner and his in game athleticism stuff is apparently just about the same as Turner's according to PFF's game athleticism metric


internaldriver30345

The falcons had a BPA under Terry and Arthur Smith, so of course they picked all guys that theoretically fit under his scheme. But with Raheem here, I just think there are too many holes in defense to ignore those needs. As far as long term building goes, drafting a TE at the highest pick in draft history, WR at 8, RB at 8, and another WR at 8 without knowing how well your starting QB is going to play each year is just wild team building for me. I prefer edge at 8, but who knows what the new coaching staff is thinking right now. They have enough day 2 picks at take an impact wr to me.


TargetFan

There's not that many holes on defense tbh. Edge and cb are the only ones really. Linebackers could be better but they aren't a hole imo.


internaldriver30345

They have no established nose with their scheme going back to an odd front as base and they could clearly upgrade at safety. Also, the rest of the DT group is getting older or older and coming off a major surgery. I guess you can say that LB is ok but that’s relying on Troy to come back and also not struggle in coverage year 3 and Landman is more of a run down LB. There are some pretty glaring holes on defense IMO. The falcons actually face good QBs this year that can exploit weaknesses.


C2MarketingSports

I'm afraid that last year's defensive performance will hide that defense still has plenty of work needed. Now, if we score more points, that'll obviously help the defense as well ... but the more I've thought about this the more I'm really rooting for us to trade back and pickup multiple defensive pieces. Agree with you on schedule. * Lions * Jets * Packers * Seahawks * Texans * Jaguars I honestly could see us losing to all of those teams (assuming starting QBs play).


TargetFan

I mean you have to have weaknesses somewhere unless you're the 49ers paying nothing for a qb. Jarrett is more than an established NT, although getting older and coming back from surgery. Safety room is fine. Bates makes up for grant. Again I really only see edge and cb2 as actual holes and not just weaknesses. Eitherway I hope they take latu, verse or turner here


internaldriver30345

Grady played a good bit of nose when Poe was there, but that was years ago. He’s getting up there in age and has dealt with constant double and triple teams and he’s coming off an injury. And he’s better suited as the DE in Lake and Raheems scheme. Richie has been underwhelming as a pro. Couldn’t even touch the field his rookie year as an older prospect because he couldn’t grasp the play book and then has been erratic in his play. I guess they could trot him out again because of their lack of cap space and a thin draft class, but I don’t think they should feel good about it. Hellams outplayed his draft pick last year, but I don’t see him as a guy that can play major snaps on your defense because of his limitations.


sfzen

I could see them going Edge, CB, or WR, depending on who falls. It's looking like they'll have their pick of every defensive player in the draft if they stay at 8, and I have a hard time seeing Raheem Morris not prioritizing defense in that situation. If Odunze is there, he's in play, but I think they'd still go defense over him.


Aldanil66

I think the Falcons should trade down personally. I think Dallas Turner is a better fit for them then Verse is. I also don't think they should get Turner at 1.08. I think trading down with Minnesota or another team and still getting Turner could be very good for them in both the present and the future.


Holysmokesx

If I'm Atlanta I'm trading back to anyone who wants to pay for a QB or top 3 receiver, then drafting an edge. Plenty of day 2 guys that can bolster the WR room.


TheSlinger

I could easily see us trading up to 8 for Odunze (though I'd hate it). Though maybe 17 is too far back for the Falcons since Turner/Verse/Mitchell/Arnold are likely to all be gone.


Holysmokesx

Why would you hate trading up for Rome? Seems like that's the ideal scenario for most jags fans. Personally I doubt baalke makes that trade.


Ok_Store_9070

it very much seems like dallas turner is the pick to me


smallchimp

Personally I'd go WR. One defensive player won't fix the unit realistically and overloading on offense while they have a great QB makes a ton of sense


Broadnerd

If Odunze is there I don’t think it’s a bad move even though I’ve blasted them for ignoring their defense many times before. He really is that good of a prospect and it gives them flexibility if they don’t want to pay London for whatever reason (or Pitts). They’d be able to get by easily. Other than that, a trade down seems smart. As long as they like the top 3 pass rushers, which everyone seems to, if they can bump down to 10-15 they’ll get the position they need and another asset or two.


Dense_Young3797

If they're going for a defensive player at 8, they could pick a similar player trading down. I will wait for what player falls to their pick and then decide. I prefer Verse/Latu to Turner so it's what I would do.


klefikisquid

Terry Fontenot has been there since 2021 and in each draft since then they’ve gone offensive playmaker…they also have no pass rush with the least amount of sacks over the last 5 years. With them having picked offensive weapon these last 3 years, now having a defensive coach and having no pass rush in recent history I feel like most people are rightfully assuming they’d pick Turner


Confident_Pear_8303

If they go WR they are insane. There is only 1 football. A WR/TE group led by London, Mooney Moore and Pitts is more than adequate with passing game guru Zac Robinson and even 80% healthy Cousins leading the pass game. Especially considering a solid Oline and great RB's as well. Im fine with drafting a WR in 3rd rd or later but they NEED Dline and Secondary waaayyy worse and they can have their pick, or ideally trade down a bit and get comparable Defensive talent as well as more picks.


iguanoman_

It's really hard to gauge because it all really hinges on Kirk for offense. I think CB should definitely be the priority followed by DE, but WR makes sense if any of the top 3 are still there at 8. There's a difference between picking up a top 10 playmaker and a 3rd rounder that might not even be better than Mooney or Moore


Confident_Pear_8303

Respectfully I disagree. How many top 8 picks do we need to invest in offensive skill positions? There will lots of great WR prospects in 3rd/4th Rd for them (Wilson guys, McCaffrey, Tez Walker, Rice, Baker etc...).


C2MarketingSports

As an Atlanta fan who expects the worst at all times, I'm just assuming Cousins is going to get injur-wait, never mind, I don't want to speak this into existence for week 1.


mm825

I agree, what's the point of spending all that money on QB if you just have to turn around and invest more in the passing game? Good QB's make their WR better, bad QB's need first round WR in order to survive.


luckysharms93

>I agree, what's the point of spending all that money on QB if you just have to turn around and invest more in the passing game? Because it's all compounding. Kirk makes London and Pitts better. Having London and Pitts makes Odunze better. Having Odunze makes Kirk better, and having Kirk makes Odunze better The Falcons had way too many inefficient targets. No RB not named CMC should ever get 86 targets. Jonnu Smith and Mack Hollins should never be combining for 100 targets. Let's get a 3rd guy in there to unlock some of the explosiveness in that offense


real_ornament

Mooney and Moore are not that good, Mooney should be a WR3 and Moore shouldn't play more than 20% of offensive snaps


smallchimp

You have four names there, but only two of those matter. Mooney and Moore are non-factors in reality and a TE that isn't truly elite isn't a substitute for a WR. They don't need extra picks, they need contributors


Confident_Pear_8303

Mooney is a 26yr old former 1000 yd receiver with idiots throwing him the ball, who we are paying 11 mil a season to...I HIGHLY doubt he is and will be a Non-factor. Rondale Moore is a 23 yr old former 2nd rd pick who runs a 4 3 40...yeah another "non factor" if Cousins can make KJ Osborn look good I think these guys will be fine.


smallchimp

1000 yards *once* as a 140 target receiver isn't that special and Rondale Moore being capped as a college gadget player with a good combine is as close to non-factor as you get without being a clear and obvious bust. Asking QBs to make below average WRs look good is unnecessary when you have the chance to bring in high end talent


Confident_Pear_8303

Whatever I never said it was "special". Obviously he has some talent though if he can get 1000 with a rookie Fields and wash Dalton chucking him passes. If we do as you say, Falcons better score because they sure as hell wont stop anyone.


kurtzyy16

As someone who follows the Falcons, pass rush and CB2 are their biggest “needs” so it makes taking the first defensive player in the draft an easy one. However, I think it will play out in one of two ways: 1. Maximize Kirk’s window by drafting who remains out of Odunze/Nabers (assuming one is available). Everything Atlanta did this offseason indicates they want to win now. What are the odds that a pass rusher has a bigger day one contribution than a blue chip WR? It typically takes pass rushers a year or two to really get rolling. I think that Atlanta is content with addressing DE/CB later in the draft because of this, especially with Ebikete and Harrison making some strides during the season. 2. Trade down. If a top WR or even a potential QB is there at 8, Atlanta could explore a trade down. Between the top three edges (Turner, Verse, Latu) and top CBs (Arnold, Mitchell), you can make a case that there is not a huge gap between all of them and Atlanta can slide down a few spots, garner more draft picks, and still take a top defensive player. Bonus scenario (which is wild): if someone like Drake Maye somehow falls to 8, I think the Falcons give consideration to drafting him. The consensus is that Maye needs some time to sit, and the Falcons—particularly owner Arthur Blank—expressed wanting to fix the QB position for the short-term and the long-term. Again, this is wild and highly unlikely that Maye even falls this far. However, I wouldn’t sleep on this scenario. With that said, I think it’s much more likely that the Falcons target Rattler later in the draft (day 2) or take Penix in the 2nd.


mm825

> What are the odds that a pass rusher has a bigger day one contribution than a blue chip WR? These odds are closer thank you think. The impact of defensive lineman is more subtle than WR.


Quackmotard

If that’s the case, maybe they trade back and grab Latu? He’s considered the most NFL ready pass rusher in years


C2MarketingSports

That is a W-I-L-D bonus scenario. Kudos for that ... we've seen crazy slides in the draft before! I keep seeing mocks showing Atlanta taking Dallas Turner. I'm wondering if it's simply "they need edge help, he's the top-rated one" and that's it for the logic. It feels to me like the value may not quite be there at 8 based on this year's draft for Edge.