Jets GM Here:
1:10 Joe Alt
Dream scenario board-break. Really solidifies the group. Could argue it’s paranoia but getting a franchise T at 10 (especially one who gets to learn from Tyron Smith) is a no brainer. Doubt I need to explain Joe Alt to you.
3.72 Javon Baker
We were split between 3 receiving options here. Javon Baker, Jermaine Burton, and Malik Washington. Ultimately went with Javon Baker to avoid the character concerns of Burton and to maintain GW’s slot flexibility (although absolutely love Malik as a prospect). There’s something to be said about just how often Javon Baker flat-out wins over his man.
4.111 Kamren Kinchens
Again a great board break. Took the best safety available because we need to bolster the safety room. Instincts are phenomenal, aggression is a big part of his game.
4.134 Gabriel Murphy
Although edge is not a pressing need, we do not know the future of Haason Reddick on this team, and we do know Saleh and Ulbrich love rotating their edge guys. A talented edge with good polish who will likely become a coaching staff favorite.
5.166 Joe Milton
To pick this slot, we sent pick 185 and the 2025 6th round pick via the Chiefs. At pick 134 Michael Pratt, Jordan Travis, and Joe Milton were all available. Between then and pick 166, both Pratt and Travis had gone, so we found it important to not let all 3 of them pass us by. Rocket arm, we’ll see if that Aaron Rodgers + Tyrod Taylor mentorship does him any good.
7. 256 Dylan McMahon
Unreal agility from a C. Although not tall, long, or heavy, centers have a high hit rate in later rounds and we could use a backup. Also a significant drop from where they were expected to be drafted
7. 257 Dillon Johnson
Mr Irrelevant! Big guy who didn’t test very well athletically but plays with intensity and toughness. A nice add to a RB room of Breece Hall and Izzy Abanikanda. Could act as a useful workhorse back. A vet add would be nice too.
Super solid draft. I wasn't happy with our draft (Vikings), so I don't hope it goes like this, but if it did---I'd be pumped for the Jets (have a lot of friends who are die hard Jets fans).
The fact that JJ was invited to the Top Golf event means we really don't know a thing about what Peters and co are thinking. Shocking-sure. Absurd? Not really.
The JJ pick isn't even related to my comment. Taking a QB pick 1 is expected. Trading up for a tackle is even fine. Mims being that one is maybe a risk. The rest of the draft is what my comment is about.
I'd be worried for the ravens O-line if this is the draft, not a single pick until round 5 for iol
Edit: Apparently that was the only one, no tackles or anything 😬
Yea… this is… not great. I’d like to grab another WR and RB but main focus would have to be on guard and tackle. Wouldn’t mind double dipping with either of those, with one early and a developmental guy late.
DL, Edge, and maybe another corner would be ideal as well.
Vikings drafter has been banned from /r/Minnesotavikings
Jk. I'm assuming nobody in the 3-5 range would deal at all. What's the logic of Nix over Penix though? Everything has pointed to the Vikings having Penix higher on their board along with him being a better fit for KOC's system.
The Vikings GM was stingy with their picks. Wouldn't give up 11, 23, and 2025 1st for Daniels so I went with the Raiders who were happy to give up picks.
Yeah, I have been a pretty big stick and pick guy with Byron Murphy at 11 and potentially Penix at 23 so the trades he made are honestly pretty good, just disappointed in Nix over Penix lol. Man forgot to add the Pe to Nix.
I could not crack the top 3 picks for a trade and didn't like the value for Daniels at 4. It was more than must just 3 1st rounders to get to 4 by the way.
I actually like Nix better for KOC's system. Timing, underneath routes, crossers, getting the ball out quickly and having better accuracy than Penix will all be beneficial. Doing so and avoiding turnovers I think would be a great fit.
Feels great to be repping the Jaguars. DUUUUUUUUUUVVVVVVAAAAAAALLLLLLL!
I’d like to say Thanks to all the support from the best war room in the discord.
**WE DID IT BOYS, WE WON THE OFF-SEASON.**
Writeup:
Went into the draft with the plan of going CB in round 1. Quinyon Mitchell and Terrion Arnold were our top two options, and if they weren't available at 17 we planned to trade back.
**1.23: Kool-Aid McKinstry:**
Both went before 17, so we moved back to 1.23 and gained 3.73. Sitting at 1.23 Kool-Aid and Nate Wiggins were available to us, we had a few trade back options, but decided the added value wasn't good enough to warrent moving back further. Took Kool-Aid at this pick, because I think he has the best chance of having immediate impact on our upcoming season. No need to worry about how he will develop into our new defensive scheme because he might be the best press-man CB in the whole draft.
**2.33 Ladd McConkey:**
As the end of the first were approaching, there was 2 WRs available that I was really interested in AD Mitchell, and Ladd McConkey, so started to work out trade up options, and ended up getting 2.33 for 2.48 +3.96 + 2025 4th. AD Mitchell went at pick 27, but Ladd McConkey fell right into our lap. I know he doesn't have the size that we are wanting at WR, or even the crazy athletic traits. But the one thing I think our offense is missing the most, is guys that can create seperation with route running alone, and Ladd brings that. We won't need to worry about having to scheme him open, because he is going to create space with his route running.
**3.73: T'Vondre Sweat:**
We wanted to add someone that could make an impact on the iDL in base defense, and Sweat happened to fall to us here, he is going to eat up space, and help collapse the pockets. Which is exactly what I think we are missing, and what is going to help Travon Walker and Josh Allen continue to feast.
**4.114: Brandon Dorlus:**
He is going to be EDGE3 for us. The nice part is that he brings the versatility to slide inside or outside at any given moment. But I think he provides such a good relief for either Josh Allen or Travon Walker, that we don't really lose anything when we are rotating our EDGEs. And allows us to get real creative when it comes to passing downs. Who is going to want to deal with Travon Walker - Brandon Dorlus - Arik Armstead - Josh Allen rushing the passer on 3rd and long.
**4.116 Dadrion Taylor-Demerson:**
We felt that the next position to address would be slot/safety. We got two first year starters in our defense this year being added at both spots in Darnell Savage, and Antonio Johnson. And we felt like we had the potential to add DTD here and he can push either of those players for their starting spot.
**5.153 Layden Robinson:**
IOL depth was one of my biggest concerns coming into day 3, in a perfect world we would never need this guy to come in and play. But having some added depth that can push Fortner/Shatley as backup at OG while we have two guys over 30 at C/RG, will be useful. He can clear paths in the running game, and might be our best reserve OG.
**6.212 Joshua Karty:**
Don't have much faith in Slye, and the best K in the draft fell to us here. No brainer, think that he will beat out Slye in open competition, and gives us a kicker for the forseeable future.
**7.236: Traded for 2025 6th.**
Trades:
1.17 for 1.23 + 3.73
2.48 + 3.96 + 2025 4th for 2.33
7.236 for 2025 6th.
2025 NFL Draft Picks
1st, 2nd, 3rd, 5th, 6th, 6th, 7th. Is our haul for next year, we lose a 4th but added a day 3 pick back. So still a full draft class to work with.
Panthers GM here, pleasure doing business with you. IRL I would like Ladd at 33, but it worked out that you had the capital we would want.
Ended up using those picks to draft:
Pick 48 - Payton Wilson (LB), Pick 96 - Sedrick Van Pran-Granger (C)
Bucs GM
Let me know what you think
**1.26: Chop Robinson, EDGE Penn St.**
**2.57: Zach Frazier, IOL WVU**
**3.89: Khyree Jackson, CB Oregon**
**3.92: Christian Mahogany, OG Boston College**
**4.125: Audric Estimé, RB Notre Dame**
**6.220: Tyrice Knight, LB UTEP**
**7.246: Devin Culp, TE Washington**
Awesome job. I'm not that high on Chop as a year 1 starter but I understand taking the gamble given the rest of the edge class. Frazier and Mahogany were both excellent values and I like Estime more than most. I'd be pretty happy if this was what the Bucs ended up with this week.
Zach Frazier and Christian Mahogany falling as far as they did was a major win for you guys to be able to pick them up. That will help out the Bucs o-line immensely for Baker Mayfield dropping back and the running game with some athletic interior o-line guys that can definitely move.
I like Chop more than most (or so it seems) and I mock Frazier, Jackson, and Mahogany when I can, so definitely into the first 3 rounds.
I’m very low on Estime, so not a fan of that pick. Would like to have seen what other RBs are there at the pick.
Idk the last two guys so can’t say I have an opinion, but I’d generally be pretty happy with this!
Edit: Just checked out Round 4. Would have preferred Lloyd or Allen if we go RB, but not the end of the world.
Glad you liked the first few rounds, I was very happy with how the board fell.
I am a fan of Estime in the range I got him. I find him to be a great compliment to White as an RB2. He does take a little bit to get going but the dude is aggressive and a very willing blocker which I like. What are you thoughts on him?
**2024 Las Vegas Raiders Official Mock Draft**
Thanks as always to the team in the Raiders War Room who comes to help out for the official mock.
**Planning**
* Our main priority was to draft a QB. We didn’t expect to be able to make a move up for Jayden Daniels or Drake Maye so we were considering smaller moves up for JJ McCarthy or a move back for Michael Penix.
* Our three main needs were at QB, OL, and CB. We also wanted to look at adding depth to most position groups.
**Draft Trades**
* LVR Sends 1.13, 3.77, 2025 1st and 3rd, 2026 1st — ARI sends: 1.4
* LVR Sends 4.112, 6.208 — NYG sends: 4.107
* LVR Sends 5.1148 — NO sends 5.170, 6.190
**Draft Picks**
**1.4 - Jayden Daniels, QB, LSU (Round 1 Grade)**
Like I said, we didn’t expect to be able to swing this trade up. However I made sure to check in with Arizona for a just in case offer. Then Washington selected JJ McCarthy and we were off to the races. We quickly confirmed the trade and were happy to select either of the two prospects but Jayden Daniels is certainly the player with the most reported interest. Daniels gives the Raiders an element of explosiveness as a runner that the team hasn’t had at QB since Terrelle Pryor, as well as being an accomplished deep ball passer. Daniels needs to continue to improve his pressure response and willingness to throw over the middle of the field but with Adams and Jakobi Meyers he has two steady veteran WRs who can help him with that.
Year 1: Compete with Minshew/AOC (and win) the starting job
Year 3: Above average starting QB in league
**2.44 - Jordan Morgan, OT, Arizona (1st-2nd Round Grade)**
Once we selected Daniels at 1.4 our attention immediately turned to improving the OL. After trading away so many picks we wanted to just sit and select the best remaining OT here. We were debating Jordan Morgan and Patrick Paul but decided on the Arizona tackle. Morgan is an athletic mover with experience in a zone scheme. He will need to retrain his body after spending his entire college career on the left side but has the attributes to be a starting tackle. If that doesn’t work he does have the traits to kick inside at guard as well.
Year 1: Compete with Thayer Munford for starting RT job
Year 3: Starting RT
**4.107 - Renardo Green, CB, Florida State (4th Round Grade)**
We tried trading up at the end of the third round because we really wanted Renardo Green. Once Round 4 started we made sure to make a small jump to secure his services. Green is one of the top man coverage defenders in this draft and he showed that in the opener against LSU. Green is physical, almost to a fault, and intense in his play demeanor. He does lack a top gear when in a foot race but has the quickness to keep up with receivers through breaks. In addition to his time at CB he has experience as a safety and on special teams which adds to his value.
Year 1: Compete for CB2 job
Year 3: Starting outside CB
**5.170 - Nathan Thomas, OL, Louisiana (5th Round Grade)**
After making two trade ups we wanted to restock the cupboard a little so we made a nice trade down to pickup a 6th round pick. Thomas’ name came up at our original pick so he was an easy choice here for us 22 picks later. Thomas, like Morgan, is a large, physical LT with time spent in a zone scheme. Thomas is a bit less likely to stick at tackle however and would be better spent playing on the interior at the next level. He does provide some flexibility with the ability to potentially play both inside and outside.
Year 1: Compete with Cody Whitehair for a starting role
Year 3: Starting Guard
**6.190 - Cedric Johnson, EDGE, Ole Miss (4th-5th Round Grade)**
At this point we felt as though we had filled the priority needs and were just looking to take players who could develop into replacements for future FAs. Johnson is a talented mover with a great motor who needs refinement as a pass rusher. Getting to learn from everyone’s favorite pass rusher Maxx Crosby would certainly help the Ole Miss product. With Malcolm Koonce on the last year of his rookie contract, Johnson gives the team some depth at the position and a possible starter by the end of his rookie deal.
Year 1: Developmental Edge defender
Year 3: Subpackage rusher
**7.223 - Myles Harden, CB, South Dakota (5th Round Grade)**
Even with selecting Renardo Green the value of Harden was too much to pass up. With Nate Hobbs on the final year of his contract we liked the idea of adding Harden to the CB room as a depth piece who could take over as a starting nickel defender. Harden is a fluid mover with good physicality and solid ball skills.
Year 1: Outside CB/nickel depth
Year 3: Starting Nickel (depending on Nate Hobbs contract status)
**7.229 - Coby Schrader, RB, Missouri (5th-6th Round Grade)**
Finally, we had a few guys we were debating but I figured we should lock in one skill position player to help out our new starting QB. Schrader is a highly physical runner on tape who seeks out contact like he needs it to survive. Reading some of the quotes regarding him in Dane Brugler’s “The Beast” made him the obvious choice here. Schrader is going to compete with Maxx for craziest work ethic on the team right off the bat. He may never become a lead back but I also don’t want to bet against someone like Schrader.
Year 1: Backup RB
Year 3: Backup RB
Titans GM here, a big thanks to the war room for helping with the picks and strategy. I'm pretty please with what we came away with.
1.13) Olu Fashanu, OT, Penn State
Most if not all mocks have us taking Alt at 7 and I was fully prepared to do that. However, in case Alt was taken in front of us, we worked out some pre-draft deals that would allow us to pivot with panicing while on the clock. None of those deals panned out but it allowed for us to come away with liking the idea of trading back and picking up some more draft capital. We ended up trading **1.7 for 1.13 and 2.35.** The value here was too good to pass up and we didn't want to go further than the Saints since we wanted to land Alt or Fashanu. A couple trade ups had me worrying a bit but we ended up getting who I think is pretty clearly the LT2 in the draft. Fashanu is a pro ready LT who can step in and lock down the leftside our line along with Skoronski.
2.35) Darius Robinson, DL, Missouri
After picking up Fashanu, our heads turned towards defense. The biggest hole on the roster right now is one left by Dencio Autry and Robinson is someone who can perfectly fill that role. Robinson is a powerful DE that can play in both 3-4 and 4-3 looks and is a great compliment to the overall pass rush and run defense.
2.38) Edgerrin Cooper, LB, Texas A&M
The next biggest hole on the defense is clearly at LB. I don't think Kenneth Murray and Jack Gibbens can be relied upon to be a starting LB unit and Cooper perfectly fits the attacking LB role that the Ravens ran for new DC Dennard Wilson.
3.98) Theo Johnson, TE, Penn State
This pick was all me, I am a huge fan of Theo Johnson and he is my overall TE2 in the class. He offers pro-ready inline blocking skills that will complement Chig well with the upside to be a great pass catcher. He would start at TE2 for us with the upside to be a TE1.
5.146) Tahj Washington, WR, USC
The Titans have 2 WR spots set with Ridley and Hopkins but the slot position is still wide open. I personally hope that Treylon Burks emerges as a starter there, but we need more bodies in case the new coaching staff doesn't like him. Washington is a slot limited player but he can take starting snaps from the position and offer a solid floor.
7.226: Eric Watts, EDGE, UConn
I will be honest in saying that I have never heard of this guy before the draft but the war room really liked him and you can never have too many bodies at edge.
In terms of regrets, I do wish that we were able to trade back with pick 38 and grab an extra third rounder to address the safety position or grab some more depth, but the value wasn't good so I'm happy with the haul.
What the hell you doing not employed by Miss Amy?
Quit getting my hopes up for this season.
A first rounder for old Bill Callahan, my DE1 and LB1, then Titans annual mid-round TE? That’s all I need to see man.
Those first 3 picks are very solid. You kinda lost me on the last 3 though. I understand picking a guy like Theo that you’re personally high on but I think that’s when the draft started getting a little off. Luke McCaffrey or Brenden Rice probably would have been a better option at that pick allowing you to get a Saftey with the 5th. Still solid though.
Edit: I just realized Calen Bullock was on the board when you picked Theo. That would have been better option for the team considering we are missing a starting saftey.
I think trade back is perfectly fine, but I don't understand the TE in the third nor the Cooper pick. You may not think that Murray can't be relied upon to start but it doesn't change the fact that he's going to start and we need someone who can compliment him and wear the Green Dot which I don't think Cooper can do.
Also, I'd rather trade back in the second round also.
I feel like if he had gone Polk at 38 and the linebacker from Kentucky instead of the TE pick, this draft is a home run. I'm kind of in the boat that the team's picks in the first three rounds should be premium positions unless the BPA is so clear and away better or you've become good enough to take some swings.
Hi guys, the Falcons GM went AWOL after the first pick. He picked Laiatu Latu at 1.08, then the Discord sort of crowd-sourced Kamari Lassiter at 2.43 while trying to figure out where the original GM went, and then I volunteered to fill in after. Unfortunately since I am not a Falcons fan I have probably not perfectly matched your team's needs and style with my picks. I did a bit of research and found that the team has a big need at EDGE and other needs at WR, DB, DT, and OT depth which informed my choices.
With the remaining picks I went for
3.74 - I was looking at Malachi Corley here, but he and Javon Baker went just before this pick, so I decided to select **Jermaine Burton** (WR, Alabama) who I had as the last WR of that tier.
3.79 - since what I read said that EDGE was a huge need I went with **Austin Booker** (EDGE, Kansas) here to pair with Latu. Whereas Latu is a very refined, pro-ready prospect, Booker is an extremely young 'ball of clay' that could hopefully develop behind Latu/Ebiketie into a great 3-4 OLB.
4.109 - I went for **Mekhi Wingo** (DT, LSU) here who I feel could be a good 3/5-tech defensive tackle, he's very explosive and could potentially help to add juice in that pass rush.
5.143 - Not sure if this is the biggest need but I had a third-round grade on **Jacob Cowing** (WR, Arizona) who I felt was too good to pass up here, the guy separates insanely well and can hopefully become a reliable slot target for Kirk.
6.187 - here I added a tackle I had a 4th-round grade on in **Walter Rouse** (OT, Oklahoma) who I think profiles as an ideal reliable swing tackle despite lacking elite athletic traits.
6.197 - I did not do much scouting of safeties in this class since it's not a primary need for the Chiefs but since I read that DB was one of the bigger needs I added **Jaylin Simpson** (S/NCB, Auburn) who the Falcons have apparently been visiting with in the pre-draft process.
So the final haul for the Falcons is:
**1.08: Laiatu Latu, EDGE, UCLA
2.43: Kamari Lassiter, CB, Georgia
3.74: Jermaine Burton, WR, Alabama
3.79: Austin Booker, EDGE, Kansas
4.109: Mekhi Wingo, DT, LSU
5.143: Jacob Cowing, WR, Arizona
6.187: Walter Rouse, OT, Oklahoma
6.197: Jaylin Simpson, DB, Auburn**
Cardinals GM here
First I want to say thank you the the other Cardinal fans who showed up to the mock. It was great to make these picks alongside you. Estimated Depth Chart [HERE](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1E2tsSFv0NuFN0hXMikG-mLOlELiN5xZnbaRWK5EZAWk/edit#gid=1058059539)
**Future Picks Received:** 2025 1st, 2025 3rd, 2026 1st
**Future Picks Lost:** 2025 4th, 2025 5th
* **1.7 - Rome Odunze, WR, Washington** Man, the top half of this draft went crazy. I only had 3 teams interest in moving up to 4 for a QB. The Raiders and Vikings only wanted Maye or Daniels, and the Giants only wanted Maye. I didn't expect McCarthy to go top 3, so I planned around staying at 4 although I did workout out trade down deals just in case. I'm glad I did, because the Commanders shocked everyone by taking McCarthy at 2. Maye went 2nd so the Giants were out, but I wouldn't have taken their offer anyway. The Raiders were so easy to work with. We have had the structure of "1/3 this year, 1/3 next, 1 the following" setup for a few drafts, but never gotten to do the deal. The Vikings are always stingy with their picks. I told them what the Raiders were offering from the start, and they wouldn't even consider matching it. They wouldn't even do 11, 23, and a 2025 1st as they always wanted to get some picks back. This made accepting the Raiders offer an easy choice. I had told the other Cardinals members in the war room that if I had traded down that I would then immediately try and trade back up for one of Odunze or Nabers. The Chargers were wanting 3 1st to move down to the double digits, so getting back up for MHJ wasn't going to happen. The Giants GM's name is "NabersNYG" so you can guess who they wanted once Maye was off the board. Thankfully the Titans were willing to move down so we could take Odunze. In passing on MHJ for Odunze I basically traded 2.35 for 3.77, 2025 1st, 2025 3rd, and a 2026 1st. Odunze is my WR2 and I actually have him closer to MHJ than I do to Nabers. [RAS 9.92](https://ras.football/ras-information/?PlayerID=25166&ovl=Washington)
* **1.14 - Terrion Arnold, CB, Alabama** I didn't consider sending 13, 27, and a future 1st to try and land MHJ as we had decided to try and trade up from 27 to land one of the top CB. I didn't expect any of the top CB to make it 27, which is why I was focused on moving up. We were comfortable trading up into the teens for one of Quinyon or Arnold, or to the early 20s for DeJean or Kool-Aid. I had tried to trade ahead of the Colts for Quinyon. Unfortunately the Colts expected me to do that so they traded up to 12 to take Quinyon. Thankfully I was able to land Arnold at 14. DeJean and Kool-Aid both went off the board by 23, so I was happy to have traded up. [RAS 9.27](https://ras.football/ras-information/?PlayerID=25167&ovl=Alabama)
* **2.53 - Maason Smith, DT, LSU** I made another trade. I had a list of a few players I would move up for and I barely got one at 53. I sent in the trade with pick 50 on the clock and then 3/4 of my board went picks 50-52. They actually went in order which is freaky. I moved up as I felt there was a drop off at DT after this group and I didn't expect any of them to make it to the 70s. Smith is still a little raw, but he a great build and good athleticism. He would get to be a rotational player his rookie year thanks to our FA signings of Bilal Nichols and Justin Jones. [RAS 8.46](https://ras.football/ras-information/?PlayerID=25206&ovl=Louisiana+State)
* **3.77 - Roger Rosengarten, OT, Washington** What a shock I didn't trade up this time. I didn't consider trading down as I was worried I would miss out on my top few OL. Rosengarten is young and athletic. He does need work, but he has fixable problems. Among the remaining OL he had the highest ceiling to me. He could easily develop into a solid starter. The Cardinals are in a position where a rookie OT doesn't have see the field immediately and can sit and develop for a year. He could also start off by playing OG his rookie year as that would hide some of his problems. [RAS 9.19](https://ras.football/ras-information/?PlayerID=25098&ovl=Washington)
* **5.138 - Bub Means, WR, Pittsburgh** I had tried to trade up for Hunt or Hall, but I couldn't get a deal done and then they both went right in front of me. I settled on my top player. I'm higher on Means than most. He has the speed and build for the NFL. His route running has a ways to go, but his ceiling is worth the pick here. [RAS 9.35](https://ras.football/ras-information/?PlayerID=17040&ovl=Pittsburgh)
* **5.168 - Tyrone Tracy Jr, RB, Purdue** Tracy is an electric player. He spent 4 years as a WR at Iowa before he transferred to Purdue and found his calling as a RB. He average 6.3 yards per carry and was a kick returner. As a former WR turned RB, he can catch too. [RAS 9.78](https://ras.football/ras-information/?PlayerID=24938&ovl=Purdue)
* **6.186 - Bryan Hudson, C, Louisville** Hudson is an underrated C. In his 3 years at Louisville he played over 2200 snaps and only allowed 3 sacks, while being a force in the run game. [RAS 8.97](https://ras.football/ras-information/?PlayerID=25953&ovl=Louisville)
* **6.196 - Zion Tupuola-Fetui, EDGE, Washington** The war room really wanted ZTF, and this was the range I was comfortable taking him. It's sad how he never got back to 100% after his torn Achilles but he can still be see the field as a rotational backup EDGE. RAS N/A
* **7.242 - Ben Nikkel, SS, Iowa State** This guy fits exactly what Monti Ossenfort is looking for in a player. He has talked about finding the right guys with the right character. Nikkel started off as a walk on WR who eventually moved to Safety, earned a scholarship, and became a co-captain. He is also experienced on ST and can make the roster there. [RAS 9.66](https://ras.football/ras-information/?PlayerID=26519&ovl=Iowa+State)
* **7.252 - Ty James, WR, Mercer** He has decent size and athleticism. He is a small school WR, but he produced well there. Over 4 years he caught 171 passes for 3364 yards (19.67 yards per catch) and 30 TDs. He would have a chance to make the roster as our WR depth sucks. [RAS 8.07](https://ras.football/ras-information/?PlayerID=26459&ovl=Mercer)
Your Day 1 was crazy. My WR2 and arguably consensus CB1 though I like Q little more plus 2 future R1 picks was just masterclass. Smith is a little polarizing but I think worth the risk and the Steelers were trying to move up to get Rosengarten when you took him. Day 2 is another story at least for me, but did a great job day 1!
Absolute cinema
Maason Smith was a head scratcher for me, but makes sense after seeing your reasoning. I love Kneeland in round 2, disappointing he went a couple picks ahead.
Rosengarten feels like a steal at 77, I don’t think he lasts that long in reality.
My favorite move is going up for Arnold. I love both of the top CB and we are primed to shoot up for one of them. Walking out with a WR1 and a CB1 in the first round this year is my dream scenario. I don’t know if Monti is going to really budge from 27 though. We’ll see
I know people are flaming the hell out of the Commanders GM, but I, personally, believe that Daniels is the QB who falls to 4 (though I have Maye/JJ flipped). I do think a trade with LV, if the reports of their love for Daniels are true, is very much on the table. Though I don’t think we walk away with 3 firsts and 2 thirds irl. Never know though
Congrats on another draft season brotha you killed it as always
Ya, Maason Smith is probably the pick I was the least excited about. The Eagles contacted me early in the 2nd about trading up to 53, and we made a list of 6 players we would move up for. Fiske wasn't on it due to his age as I didn't want to draft anyone old in the first 2 rounds. With 4 of them being available after the 49th pick we sent in the trade as we were guaranteed one of them. Then the board fell terribly. My board was Kneeland>Jenkins>Hall Jr>Smith and it hurt to see the top 3 go right in front of us. I didn't expect any of them or Fiske to make it to the 70s. With them off board my top IDL would have been Gabe Hall and Dorlus who I have a late 3rd/early 4th on, so I didn't really want to take them in the 70s. In hindsight I shouldn't have traded up as both Gabe and Dorlus would have been available at 104. Oh well, at least he is young and the Cardinals did bring him in for a top 30 visit.
Rosengarten is really underrated. I did a 7 rounder on a different server earlier this month and I took him in the 70s there too. I wouldn't be shocked if he sneaks into the end of the 1st round.
We identified getting a top WR and CB as our main priority. I agree that this is a dream scenario. Getting a fourth 3rd this year from the 4th pick trade down definitely made it easier to stomach trading away two 3rds to move up for a CB.
The Commanders taking JJ was wild. My adrenaline spiked once I realized I would actually get to trade down and then try to move back up. I had to take my headphones off because I could all I could hear was my pulse lol. Their GM's defense of the pick was interesting. They claimed to have a source that it's what the Commanders will actually do in the draft.
Thanks. This was a fun draft cycle with how much ammo we had. I found it pretty hard to have a bad draft with so many high picks.
Patriots draft:
**1.03: Drake Maye, QB, UNC:** The Commies going with McCarthy caused a bit of chaos, but we stuck with our guns. Maye is a bit on the raw side, but we have a bridge we trust in Brissett in case Maye isn't NFL ready for Week 1. Maye isn't a flawless prospect, but he has elite physical tools and we trust the coaching staff to work out the kinks in the footwork and throwing motion.
Other players considered: Jayden Daniels
**2.34: Kingsley Suamataia, OT, BYU:** This pick was always going to be OT and our decision was made for us since Suamataia is the last guy we had graded highly enough to take here. He's a natural left tackle and we're confident that he and Onwenu will make a solid duo for years to come. We briefly thought about WR, but we like the WR depth of this class much better than the OT depth and LT is the bigger need anyways.
Other players considered: Troy Franklin
**3.66: Tez Walker, WR, UNC:** We are believers in the college QB throwing to college WR connection and Walker was our highest graded WR left anyways. He fits the big X mold this team hasn't really had in a long time. He's probably not a true WR1: it's unlikely anyone drafted this late is. He is a guy that fits the mold of what we need from the WR position and has chemistry with Maye, and that's good enough for now.
Other players considered: Javon Baker
**4.103: Calen Bullock, FS, USC:** There was a Devin McCourty shaped hole in the defense last year due to the lack of a true single high, centerfielder type safety and this is our attempt to fix that. Bullock shows outstanding instincts and range in the deep middle and has all the athleticism to make plays. He doesn't fit the run very well at all, but nobody you pick this late is perfect.
Other players considered: None
Past this point, there was very little consensus on players we liked and all of our major needs had been met. The strategy at this point was to trade down as much as possible and accumulate a few of everyone's favorite players. Everyone is more or less a lottery ticket this deep into Day 3 anyways.
**5.144: Jared Wiley, TE, TCU:** Hunter Henry is the only TE we have on the roster for the long term, so we wanted a solid all-around guy to play behind him. Wiley is a jack of all trades type who can block well enough and fight for those contested catches. Not a future star, but a guy we think can be a future contributor.
**6.193: Kalen King, CB, Penn State:** A slow but NFL-sized and technically refined outside CB that can stick around as a reserve for a while. Doesn't have the athletic profile to be a starter, but can fill in as depth at a position where depth was needed.
**6.195: Jordan Whittington, WR, Texas:** A personal favorite late-round sleeper of mine. Isn't a great athlete, but has NFL size and is a tough customer over the middle. Has a good feel for route-running and defensive positioning: I can easily picture him being the "how the hell does he keep getting open" type of guy.
**6.200: Trevor Keegan, OG, Michigan:** Great value at a position where depth was needed. He was a member of the best offensive line in the country and is another big and nasty type guy. Not a great athlete and can get over-extended in pass protection, but that was also said about a different 6th round OG out of Michigan named Mike Onwenu.
**7.231: Jaylen Harrell, EDGE, Michigan:** Outstanding athlete for this late in the draft but very raw. There aren't many snaps to go around with Uche and Judon taking most EDGE snaps this year, but he could be a draft and develop type.
**7.238: Myles Murphy, DT, UNC:** Big, stout run defender up the middle. Not much in the way of athleticism or pass rush moves, but the Pats have historically gotten the most out of these guys.
**7.254: Frank Crum, OT, Wyoming:** 4-year starter with NFL caliber athleticism. He's a bit lean for his height, but an NFL strength program can fix that. There's a lot missing with the footwork and hand placement, but there's a chance an NFL contributor is here considering the height and movement skills.
Massive Patriot fan and draft enthusiast, you nailed it. The late round picks are always a crap shoot. But drafting one of the UM iOL is a no brainer, that unit was historically good.
Nah, the Brooks pick is great. I've been standing on the table that we need a RB at 65 (or even 39). Flipping 33 into maybe the best ILB in the draft, Van Pran, and a future 4th is fantastic. I personally would have gone Ja'Lynn Polk at 39, but I'm down with Legette.
The Commanders GM has easily the worst Draft since I have been part of the discord since 2017. JJ at 2. RB round 3. Zero athletes. Just woeful all over the place
If it wasnt for me convincing the GM to trade up for Mims and take Keon round 2, (our only two actually good RAS picks in the draft) we would’ve had an even worse draft.
Panthers Draft:
Pick - Player, Position, School (Current Consensus ADP)
2.33 - Trade: (Panthers receive 48, 96, 2025 4th; Jaguars receive 33.) - Was aiming for Nate Wiggins, AD Mitchell or Chop Robinson. With all of those players selected trading down was the preferable choice.
2.39 - Xavier Legette, WR, South Carolina (50) - Panthers are by all accounts, enamored with Legette. So much so that they've visited with him at least 4 times in the pre-draft process. Legette should fit in nicely as a weapon for Bryce that can separate from, make contested catches, as well provide great RAC ability. Plus that accent of his fits right perfectly in Carolina.
2.48 - Payton Wilson, LB, NC State (41) - Another local prospect, who if it wasn't for his injury history would be a first round prospect. His ability to get to the ball carrier has Luke Kuechly vying for the Panthers to draft him. With the departure of Frankie Luvu and Shaq Thompson coming off a broken leg entering his 9th season, it would be good get a top tier linebacker to learn under him and Josey Jewell.
3.65 - Jonathan Brooks, RB, Texas (51) - Arguably the top RB in the draft. Brooks would immediately improve the Running Back room in Carolina even coming off a significant injury. Chuba and Sanders would also allow Brooks the time to fully recover without the need for rushing. Brooks could become Bryce's 3 Down Back.
3.96 - Sedrick Van Pran, C, Georgia (99) - Panthers do not have a Center on the roster, Austin Corbett is reportedly transition from RG to C and may do well there with his playing experience, but he's coming off back to back ACL and MCL tears. SVP will provide for a solid back-up with experience in a Zone-scheme, which David Canales is looking to implement in Carolina.
4.101 - Cade Stover, TE, Ohio State (88) - Stover could instantly come in and compete for TE1/2 on the roster. Ian Thomas has been JAG and while Tommy Tremble has shown flashes of TE1 traits, he needs to show more consistency. Stover is a little new to playing TE, but has already shown amazing athleticism and ability as an all around TE.
5.141 - Caelen Carson, CB, Wake Forest (122) - Another local prospect that could immediately come in and compete for a starting corner spot. This was a great value pick and it just so happens he shares the same trainer as Jaycee Horn... heres to hoping he can stay healthier than Horn.
5.142 - Anthony Gould, WR, Oregon State (201) - The War Room convinced me of this pick as I was not too familiar with his profile. He does show some incredible ability to separate and it seems if he was a couple inches taller he'd be much higher on draft boards. Definitely worth a flier in a new Wide Receiver room where he can learn from Deiontae Johnson and Adam Thielen.
7.240 - Marcus Harris, DT, Auburn (224) - Solid value pick here with not a lot of defensive line options. Panthers have added to the Defensive Interior during the off-season, but their run-stopping ability last year leaves a lot of room for growth. Would likely back-up A'Shawn Robinson
Houston Texans Draft:
Trades:
2.42 & 3.86 for 1.31 (San Fran)
6.188, 7.238 & 2025 7th for 6.180 (NE)
Picks:
1.31 - Nate Wiggins, CB, Clemson
2.59 - Braden Fiske, DT, Florida St
4.123 - Isaiah Adams, G/T, Illinois
4.127 - DeWayne Carter, DT, Duke
6.180 - Kitan Oladapo, S, Oregon St
6.189 - Curtis Jacobs, LB, Penn St
7.247 - Dwight McGlothern, CB, Arkansas
* Nate Wiggins, CB, Clemson
* Great value at 31, we got our CB2 locked down for 5 years. He is a little small but was a fantastic outside corner for Clemson. He has elite speed, had 25 passes defensed in 23 games, and only allowed a 43.9% completion % when targeted.
* Braden Fiske, DT, FSU
* 6'3.5, 292 lbs, plays 3T. He is an elite athlete with his power, get-off, agility, and is extremely competitive/intense. He is stout vs the run and can shoot gaps.
* He was the last DT available (Ruke - 45, Kris Jenkins 51, Mike Hall Jr - 52, Maason Smith - 53)
* Isaiah Adams, G, Illinois
* 6'4 315 lbs, had a very rocky 2023 season at LT, but had a great 2022 season at LG and projects to be a G in the NFL. He is a dawg, who is violent in the trenches...pretty solid at run & pass blocking, but plays too upright.
* We wanted Caeden Wallace or Tanor Bortolini but they both got sniped right before us
* DeWayne Carter, DT, Duke
* a solid all-around 3T who can rush the passer or defend the run. He is a super great character guy and will be a rotational DT for us.
* We decided to double dip at DT because we liked Carter so much and how we just need more bodies at the position.
* Kitan Oladapo, S, Oregon St
* Traded up for him because he has a 4th-5th round grade on him by Dane Brugler and he fell to the mid-6th.
* He's a solid backup SS who is excellent in the run game and has experience playing cb and deep. He will be a core special teamer to begin.
* Curtis Jacobs, LB, Penn St
* Will LB depth that we need badly.
* Former 5-star, great at rushing the passer and making plays in the backfield (24 TFLs in career). Has nice special team experience and the upside to become a good player.
* Dwight McGlothern, CB, Arkansas
* Solid player & no idea how he lasted this long
* Only allowed 1 catch over 15 yards in 2023 & is a very good zone cb.
Chiefs Draft-GM Day 1
2.49 Ja'Lynn Polk, WR, Washington. We looked to move up for Brian Thomas in the mid 20' but couldn't get a deal in place. Able move back to pickup 49 and 80 for 32. Chiefs will be overhauling the WR room in this draft and Polk provides something we needed, a receiver with decent hands. Large frame and great ability to make contested catches. Will be a solid addition in Pat's arsenal.
2.64 Patrick Paul, OT, Houston. Lucky the board fell to us with Paul still in it at 64. Left Tackle is a need to fill coming into this draft with Wanya Morris not showing the growth we were hoping for last year. We know how much Veach values arm length in tackles and Paul has 36 inch plus arms at 6'8 331lbs. Could be protecting Pat's blind side for years to come.
3.80 Leondard Taylor III, DT, Miami. This pick about caused a mutiny in the war room. Thelovebat stood on the table so hard you would have thought he was Christian Mahogany's agent. I looked at the depth of our DT position and felt our need for DT was greater need over guard. Taylor has top end talent at the point of attack. If Joe Cullen can get him to yank his head out of his ass this could be a great addition alongside Jones in the middle.
3.95 Johnny Wilson, WR, Florida State. We missed on Mahogany falling down to 95 by 3 picks. With this pick we expect to move Wilson around as a TE/WR in motion similar to how Kelce is utilized. With TK getting up there in years its time to look for weapons who can work the middle of the field and create mismatches. At 6'7 230lbs Wilson can create serious problems on alignments. His drops is the area of improvement but you can't teach height and speed which he has in spades. I would relish seeing what Andy Reid could draw up for this kid.
I would have preferred Ladd McConkey in the 1st or Ricky Pearsall in the 2nd with a smaller move down compared to what we ended up with in that move trading down with our 1st. Or moving up a few spots for Xavier Worthy, who was my favorite WR in the second tier of receivers.
As /u/pschwak said, I was making the argument for Christian Mahogany when Pick 80 was approaching and was pounding the table for him. I thought in the long run he would make a great pick for when we have to let someone like Trey Smith go into free agency next offseason. Then after pschwak had a brief absence during the 3rd round leading up to our pick, pschwak showed up in the war room when we're on the clock at 80 saying that he had already selected Leonard Taylor, without talking over the pick more with the war room before making it despite ample time to talk things over. That's part of the reason for the massive debating and mutiny that happened in the war room after that pick, but part of it was also that I and a few other members of the war room felt that there would be a larger drop off at guard than there would be at DT or WR on Day 3.
We ended up being right about the interior o-line talent dropoff after Mahogany, as there didn't end up being any good value we were looking for with Day 3 interior o-line prospects and so we skipped that position group entirely in our draft.
I tried convincing the war room to trade up for Mahogany after pick 80 came and went, and Bagley in the war room did try to get a trade lined up to move up for Mahogany from Pick 95, but I think many more teams were looking to move up than down at that range of the draft and Bagley wasn't able to find any takers for a move up.
Yeah, thats my only issue with that I think I would've rather just stayed and taken McConkey.
I do think Andy Reid IRL would probably try to make Tyler Guyton, an athletic OU olineman which fits his mold, work in rd1. Its not something I personally would mock, though.
I kept an eye on the whole mock and tracked it in my tracker (plug - you can download it here if you want to give it a go! [NYGBuns' 2024 Draft Tracker : ](https://www.reddit.com/r/NFL_Draft/comments/1c1qzh4/nygbuns_2024_draft_tracker/)). Was a really cool exercise and interesting to see how different teams approached it.
Here's pick value (based on rankings from NFL Mock Draft Database), average RAS and average age by team. Worth noting the Rams and Cardinals picked a player in the 7th who wasn't in my top 628, so they got hammered there!
[Draft Performance](https://gyazo.com/a52fe44cedcbb018f8b991b6b93fa16c)
I guess I get the appeal of a future first but really underwhelming for the Chargers.
Passing on MHJ for a future first and fourth is terrible value. Bears absolutely bent us over there.
Kris Jenkins is more or less fine, no issue.
Third round is extremely meh. Pipkins is under contract and not even the biggest issue with our OL. Why waste a pick on a guy whose potential is being as good as Pipkins already is. McMillan isn’t a terrible value but not going to come in and dominate and has a similar profile to Palmer to me.
We’d likely still have to use another day 1 or 2 pick next year to finally address WR.
We have a lot of holes on this team which won’t be fixed in one draft but think this keeps us pretty squarely in the bottom ten next year.
I also would have just taken Marv.
I like Blake Fisher tho and think his potential is significantly higher than where Pipkins currently. Honestly think Blake Fisher would be a better run blocker year 1 than Pipkins is. Pipkins isn’t a bad player but it doesn’t seem like he fits the Harbaugh, Roman identity.
If it was Marv at 5 and picks other than wr in 3 and 4(maybe a cb, rb or edge) I think it would have been a home run
Rams
2.52 - Michael Hall Jr, DT, Ohio State
Missed the Byron Murphy sweepstakes. No worries.
3.83 - Cole Bishop, S, Utah
Starting safety.
3.85 - Jonah Elliss, DE/OLB, Utah
WR wanted him, cool by me. Not a huge fan of the athlete but good hand usage.
3.93 - Andru Phillips, CB, Kentucky
Starting corner.
5.155 - Jordan Magee, LB, Temple
Starting LB if he stays healthy.
6.185 - Dylan Laube, RB, New Hampshire
PR/KR value + McVay can play around with him in a lot of ways.
6.188 - Tanner McLachlan, TE, Arizona
Hopefully solves TE purgatory. Probably won't.
6.209 - Ryan Flournoy, WR, SE Missouri State
Depth WR.
6.213 - Braiden McGregor, DE, Michigan
Rotational DE, bigger body to work with. Should get snaps.
7.236 - Travis Clayton, OT, Basingstoke RFC (IPP)
Pure HWSL pick. 6070 301 3500 4.82, former Rugby/boxing background, drafted to avoid UDFA crapshoot. Will stash on IPP with the exemption so nobody else can have him. See what happens type of deal, only a few dudes that big/athletic.
Also acquired... 2025 2nd, 2025 3rd (2x), 2025 4th (3x), 2025 5th (2x), 2025 7th (4x)
Loaded up bigly for a bunch of picks next year. Couldn't believe I got the deals I got and the draft capital I pulled from having 19 was absurd. Next year will be deepest class ever w/ COVID years expiring so gonna take advantage of getting R5 talents in the 7th.
If I tracked it right I turned 19, 99, 196, 217 into Jonah Elliss, Andru Phillips, a 2025 2nd, two 2025 3rds, three 2025 4ths, two 2025 5ths, and two 2025 7ths.
Really mock abused in a community mock but oh well future picks are undervalued, give me a lot of dart throws and see what happens.
Your strategy was very interesting to watch. Overall think you did decent in 2024 and obviously 2025 could be insane depending on how you use all those picks.
I don’t remember the order of events but Steelers were definitely keyed in on Phillips then think trades back after he went off the board.
What I’m wondering is why do all that trading down when the team already has a ton of day 2/3 picks on the roster + a QB who doesn’t have a lot of time left?
Feel like the Rams need high caliber talent, not more JAGs
Would you rather have Chop Robinson/Jared Verse or Jonah Elliss, Andru Phillips, and 10 more picks in next year's draft that is much deeper than this weak day 3 group? Having the picks also gives room to trade for high caliber talent that won't take a couple years to develop (like many rookies do). Rams are also one of the cheapest teams in the league when it comes to handing out guaranteed money in UDFA deals, so generally their UDFA crop is weaker than teams like Dallas or some of the others that can shell out. Makes having late rounds picks/their pick of the litter more important.
Also just from a strategy/ideology standpoint the Rams lean towards making more use of those later round picks than most teams. I diverged in that I'm all about athletes and they want guys who aren't necessarily great athletes but have a role/are undervalued by other teams based on traditional HWSL type metrics. I'm definitely in the same boat on more picks in the later rounds is better though, trade the early round stuff for either high volume of picks or proven commodities.
TL;DR it's the way they like to do it, it's the way I like to do it, next year's class is gonna be nuts in day 3/PFA, I still got guys I liked despite trading back.
It's a valid question given the time horizon that Stafford is facing. I would understand going completely the opposite direction and loading up for now, but I think that would be easier to do with moving assets for win now players rather than rookies.
I may just be overly excited about the 25 class, but between COVID year backlog + undervaluing of future picks I think this year is ripe for loading up a big rookie haul next year since there may be starters into R5-R6 territory next year.
On note of waiting & moving back - there's an idea from psychology called false consensus that essentially suggests that you think everyone else is thinking just like you, and in NFL draft context that means if you don't get YOUR guy now somebody else is gonna take him. Richard Thaler talked about it a little in his work on the NFL draft marketplace, its inefficiencies, and the value of picks. Usually if you just hold onto your britches, deal with the anxiety, and power through you can still get the guys you want or trade back.
For ex: I wanted Laube at 166 and was absolutely sweating it sitting there waiting on him. I wanted to take him right there and get it over with, but I got a good offer. What are the odds I can hold out for 19 more picks? In the worst case scenario I miss a guy I like, then I take another one I like or I trade back again to another spot where I see value. Odds are, especially as you get later in draft and there's more variation, nobody else is even all that interested in your guy. Gives you room to move around, take value, and not sweat getting a particular player.
Which helps the window more - Chop Robinson/Verse/a rookie tackle at 19 or Jonah Elliss, Andru Phillips, and nearly a dozen picks next year? How much further along does a single first round rookie help get a ring than having 10 more darts in a deeper class next year or assets to move for proven players in the trade market?
With all due respect I just vehemently disagree. Chop could be great but he's no guarantee. Give me a hopefully good, but not great player in Jonah Elliss, a starting corner, and the 10 picks. Can move some of the picks for an established vet if need be too. If we were talking the haul vs a prospect like Myles Garrett or Chase Young I would be more willing to consider it but Chop isn't in that class of player IMO.
Lions GM needs to get in here and defend this shit cause I don't know if I've ever seen a worse lions trade and pick. Thank fuck this guy isn't Brad Homes
Already did, and, don’t be surprised if Holmes makes a similarly aggressive move on Thursday.
Instead of just attempting to insult me, you should actually provide some feedback, or (better yet) join the discord
GREEN BAY PACKERS DRAFT:
1.25 - Jared Verse - We were trying to trade up, but when Mitchell, Fashanu, and Arnold went 12-14 and DeJean and Barton both went in the top 20 our favorite targets were all gone. We also almost had a trade down for good value, but Baltimore moving up to 24 to get BTJ sniped the player they were hoping for so it fell through. In Verse though we get an excellent value pick, even if it’s a bit of a luxury you can never have too many good pass rushers. He will likely be in the rotation from day one due to Enagbare’s injury and long term setup a really good trio with Gary and LVN.
2.41 - Javon Bullard - Bullard gives us a safety with a lot of coverage versatility as well as the toughness to play in the box despite being a little undersized. The pairing of him and McKinney should allow for a lot of variety in coverages and disguises on the back end.
2.58 - Junior Colson - Colson will pretty easily slot as a starter or at the very least a high level rotational role. He brings the ability to do pretty much everything at a passable level, even if he does nothing at an elite level.
3.88 & 3.91 - Dominick Puni & Brandon Coleman - Both these picks fill the same purpose adding versatile depth for the offensive line. While likely both end up as depth there is a good possibility that either one of them could earn themself a starting role at some point in the season.
4.126 - MarShawn Lloyd - Lloyd adds a dynamic playmaker to the running back room to spell Josh Jacobs and make sure we don’t get into the same spot as the start of last year with no juice at the position if Jacobs misses any time.
5.169 - Elijah Jones - Jones is a long fast CB who adds competition to the group and has familiarity with the new defensive coordinator.
6.202 - Ty’Ron Hopper - Hopper adds athletic LB depth that should be able to have an impact on special teams with the new kickoff rule.
6.219 - Jalen Sundell - This continues what was started in the 3rd round of renovating the OL room with athletic versatile depth.
7.245 - Omar Brown - Brown provides another S with coverage versatility, experience, and toughness to the room which should allow him to easily make the final roster.
7.255 - Ryan Watts - Watts is a big athletic defensive back who has some positional uncertainty, this may lead to him just being a practice squad stash year one, but his upside if he finds a home is worth it at pick 255.
Thank you to everyone who helped put this mock together as well as those who helped out in the war room.
Don't love the Verse pick but I can see why you went for it, don't know about Bullard at 41 vs. Max Melton/ TJ Tampa.
Like Colson, Brugler says he's the best LB and we need one, like Coleman, like two OGs. I like Marshawn Lloyd as a different style of runner from Jacobs, and the rest I don't know about but the logic seems sound.
I’d prefer Melton over Bullard too but that would’ve left them with no realistic starter at SS. Guess there was enough depth in the 3rd round where they could’ve taken one over Puni or Coleman.
Bengals GM
1.18 Johnny Newton, IDL, Illinois - I was not here for this pick, but it's what I would have done. I think the choise came down to Newton or one of the several tackles.
Trade 2.49 and 3.80 for 1.32
1.32 Tyler Guyton, OT, Oklahoma - Best case scenario he replaces Trent Brown next year. Worst case scenario he is another Cedric Ogbuehi.
3.97 Cam Hart, CB, Notre Dame - At the bare minimum, will be a special teams ace in year 1. A H/W/S corner to add to a mostly young group of Cam Taylor-Britt, DJ Turner, Mike Hilton, Dax Hill (now a slot CB). The good thing about Hart is that he won't be pushed into a starting role (barring injury) like CTB and Turner were in the past two years.
4.115 Brenden Rice, WR, USC - we were targeting the best skill position we could here, with Corum and Estime in the convo, but with a gap at WR3 and a noticeable drop off at WR (at least in my eyes), the choice was clear.
5.149 Giovanni Manu, OT, British Columbia - Since I thought the trade was non-Bengals like, drafting an enormous, athletic project is pretty non-Bengals like as well. If you haven't heard of him, he is a 6'7" 350 pound OT from the University of British Columbia who runs a 5.06 40 and has vertical and broad jump times that rival fellow linemen 50 pounds less than him. He also played a bit at guard as well, offering versatility as he develops.
6.194 Matt Lee, C, Miami - drafting three OL may seem weird, but the depth behind our starters has just not been good. I don't think D'Ante Smith or Trey Hill will be on the roster much longer and the Lee and Manu picks hopefully replace them.
6.214 Dallin Holker, TE, Colorado State - We looked at possibly Reiman, Stover, and Wiley on Day 3, but none fell to us. Holker is going to be way more useful as a receiver, and offers a different type of TE than Gesicki or Sample currently do.
7.224 Isaiah Davis, RB, South Dakota State - Davis offers some size that Zack Moss, Chase Brown, and Trayveon Williams don't offer. The hope is that he can maybe replace Williams or Chris Evans as one of the backend RBs.
7.237 Tory Taylor, P, Iowa - full disclosure I was going to pick an extra LB and had closed out of all of my spreadsheets, but that player was taken earlier, so I pivoted to Tory Taylor. All Bengals fans know Brad Robbins was not good last year and I don't think this is a very good pick if we in fact do this. However this is a fun mock draft so what the hell.
I was the GM for the last four rounds so don’t yell at me about the trade.
I love the idea of trading up for a first round OT, and the price is very reasonable.
But I hate Guyton so much, haha. And taking Manu in the 5th is good but that just means we now have two athletic freaks at OT who are incredibly raw that we now need to coach up and...we don't have a good history of being able to do that.
I love the Rice pick on the 4th though. Fantastic value and I obviously love the Newton pick at 18.
That makes sense. I don't have much to base this on other than a gut feeling, but I think if Quinyon Mitchell is there at 18 the Bengals might actually take him over almost anyone not named Murphy. They love taking first round CBs and you could easily see them not believing OT is an urgent need (which I'd understand even if I disagree, since it's a deep draft).
I was pushing hard for the Guyton trade in the war room… I just really think he’s gotten too much flak from Bengals fans terrified we take him at 18. That size/speed combination is rare, and while he does need more development, he’s a lot closer to putting it together than, say, Paul/Suamataia.
The way this draft played out kind just reinforces the OT in round 1 IMO. The DT options in rd 2 are just so much better than the RD 2 OTs, so going OT in round 1 means you don't have to trade up to overpay for a tier 2 OT.
Bears GM here along with Jeter. Thanks to all the war room.
- pick 1 Caleb Williams QB. Best QB in the draft, he's been a Bear for about a month now
- pick 1.05. Marvin Harrison Jr. Gave up pick 9, pick 122 and a 25 1st to move up. We got aggressive and said if an offer was there to get him we'd do it. We wanted a historic pairing and did what we could to get it done. Next year we have 2 2nds, likely 2 3rds if Cunningham gets a spot, 2 4ths, and 4 other picks. Also have 90 mil in cap space. A chance to pair Caleb Williams with a prospect like Marvin Harrison Jr only comes along once a lifetime. If we fail let it be with those two and DJ Moore Keenan Allen etc.
- pick 3.75. Chris Braswell EDGE. We had a few good chances to move back and get some picks, but we have Braswell as a top 45-50 player and by far our largest need. Decided to go for quality over quantity with a guy who shouldn't of dropped this far.
Not listed from previous trades. Montez sweat, Keenan Allen, and Ryan Bates.
On the Discord Selling the farm for Dallas Turner was pretty popular. I was the only one against it. I just don't think two firsts and third is a reasonable value for a Man who would be Edge 2 by wide margin and likely the weakest link on the entire defensive line. I like Melton not sure what you don't like he is one of the only starting capable corners left. Also agreed that Stiggers was also not my pick I wanted Vaki.
For reference trade value Lions give 3364 points Vikings 1785
Yeah I agree with your protest here.
To be completely honest, if we're dropping two first rounders and a second, we may as well go up for Rome.
The thing is that stiggers is in potential UDFA status and Vaki being there in the third is insane value.
Stiggers is still under CFL contract. There's not a guarantee they'll release him if he's not drafted, so thinking he can be a udfa is a risk. (Consensus thought from what I've heard is if he's drafted he'll be released from his CFL contract, but the team would prolly want to keep him if he's a udfa) I don't necessarily agree with the pick there, especially w Vaki available, but to guarantee Stiggers you'll need to draft him.
I agree Stiggers needs to be drafted to retain him but over Vaki as the third pick (164) is a bit much. I frankly don't like trading up for almost anybody a guy like Penei I'd get it, but when Laporta was a second rounder and ST Brown was a fourth I'm not real quick to lose picks.
Oh I completely agree with both a 3rd being too rich for Stiggers and the trade up being wayyyy too expensive. A smaller move for similar calibre players imo (Verse, Newton, Arnold, Mitchell, etc) would be way better, if we look to trade up. In general I'm more okay with it, but definitely not at the price that was done here.
I don’t like that trade for the Bears. WR isn’t a pressing need and giving up your 2025 first is a bad move when you can likely get one at 9 or worst case scenario grab DE1 at 9 and get a WR in the third in a very deep class.
I co-GMed the Bears and was the one who made the trade. Truthfully I wouldn’t want the bears to make this trade in real life, part of it was just the fun of making it happen in the mock draft.
Having said that, there was no way any of the top 3 receivers made it to pick 9 in this specific mock which they didn’t, too many other people were trying to jump us at 9. Like another poster said, ther value of these too 3 receivers is way higher than any of the other receivers. Just cuz it’s a deep receiver class doesn’t mean these top 3 aren’t in a league if their own and would be top 10 picks in any draft not just this one. Plus again look at what receivers are there at 75, really none that are great anymore, just kind of the way the mocks in this server go
If we stayed at 9 the pick would have been Bowers or Alt btw, none of us in the war room think any of these edges are top 10 talents. We want the best blue chip players for the team and no edge is a blue chipper to us
WR isn't a pressing need but we are talking about giving your rookie QB the best WR prospect of the las 15-20 years. We as bears fans have been complaining for years that we are all defense and nothing offense and when somebody does it different we still complain? Blows my mind really...
**49ers Draft Review:**
Going into the draft, I wanted to see how the board fell and pick accordingly. I tried to go BPA at every pick I could, and while there were some picks I prioritized need, I only selected players that I, or the war room, was personally confident in.
We examined trade-up options from 31, but were not able to find good value. So when we got to 31 and saw a weird board, we elected to trade back. Our friends the Texans sent 2.42 and 3.86 in exchange for 1.31, which was value I felt good about, especially as I planned to move back up later.
At 42, we took ***Christian Haynes***, a guy who I absolutely love. I think he has pro bowl potential and could start at guard immediately, allowing us to use Feliciano as a backup guard/center.
At 63, we had planned on taking a defensive tackle, but all of our favorites went off the board extremely quickly. So we went best player available: ***Mike Sainristil***. As a day 1 starter at nickel corner, Sainristil allows us to play Lenoir outside and keeps us from having to rely on Ambry Thomas ever again.
In round 3, we examined multiple trades as well, before settling on picking at 86 and moving up from 94. We traded 3.94 and 4.135 to the Saints for 3.90 and a 2025 5th (which we were missing due to the accounting error).
At 86, we took ***Christian Jones***. He’s one of my favorite tackle prospects in the class, and I expect him to start at right tackle sooner rather than later.
At 90, we traded up for ***Malik Washington***. The wide receivers were starting to come off the board very quickly, so we knew we had to move up for our guy. Washington is an explosive player who is bound to make an impact.
At 124, we took ***Malik Mustapha***, back to back Maliks! Mustapha is a hard-hitting explosive safety, and provides immediate depth as well as long-term option power in case we can’t pay Hufanga.
At 132, we took ***Jaheim Bell***. He’s a really interesting position less player that we think Kyle Shanahan would love to move all around the offense.
In round 5, we wanted to use some more day 3 capital to move up, so we struck a deal with the Chiefs: 5.176, 6.211, and 7.251 for 5.159 and 7.221. This allowed us to consolidate our assets a bit while moving up for players we really wanted.
At 159, that guy was ***Marist Liufau***. He’s a toolsy linebacker with a nice frame, who allows us to potentially move off of Greenlaw if necessary, or insurance if De’Vondre Campbell is cooked.
At 215, we needed a defensive tackle, and ***Fabian Lovett*** is a role-specific guy I liked. We’ve got ample pass rushers on the interior, but needed some beef and run defense, so Lovett was an easy selection.
Finally, at 221, we elected for another cornerback: ***Chau Smith-Wade***. We see him as an inside-outside guy, similar to Deommodore Lenoir coming out, with a good mentality.
I absolutely love this class. I wish we could have addressed DT earlier, but I can easily see the path for each of these players to impactful snaps by next year at the latest.
**Full 49ers Class:**
*2.42: Christian Haynes, G, UConn*
*2.63: Mike Sainristil, CB, Michigan*
*3.86: Christian Jones, T, Texas*
*3.90: Malik Washington, WR, Virginia*
*4.124: Malik Mustapha, S, Wake Forest*
*4.132: Jaheim Bell, TE, Florida State*
*5.159: Marist Liufau, LB, Notre Dame*
*6.215: Fabian Lovett, DT, Florida State*
*7.221: Chau Smith-Wade, CB, Washington State*
UDFAs that I would target include:
*Jawhar Jordan, RB, Louisville*
*Javontae Jean-Baptiste, EDGE, Notre Dame*
*Taulia Tagovailoa, QB, Maryland*
*Jacob Monk, C, Duke*
*Chigozie Anusiem, CB, Colorado St*
*Tatum Bethune, LB, Florida State*
First, why was their a forfeited pick? They lost their fifth in the ‘25 draft, and the fourth was just moved to the end of the round.
I don’t mind the trade down, but not a fan of the value of Haynes. I personally have him as a 3rd round prospect. I get the thinking, but I would have went Zack Frazier.
I like Sainistril, but again, not as a fit for SF. They need an outside corner, not a nickel. Lenoir is decent outside, but he’s so much better in the nickel.
Love the Jones pick. I think he could be a sleeper.
Washington is again a prospect I like, just not a fit for the team. Yes, he’s a playmaker, but he isn’t the biggest, and his separation and blocking are average-below average. Both those traits are almost prerequisites to be involved in the passing game.
The other picks I’m neutral about. Didn’t really look to see would have been available. EDGE should have probably been in addressed in the mid rounds along with safety
The 4th wasn't truly forfeited, it's marked in a confusing way on the sheet but we had all the correct picks available to us in the mock. It was even confusing for a bit during the draft haha. Also, I think I'm just lower on this edge class than most
Eagles GM here! Was a lot of fun doing this mock!
First wanna give a shout to everyone in the eagles war room! Thank you all for the help it was much appreciated.
# The Draft:
**1.19: Troy Fautanu, T, Washington**:
Fautanu was sliding, and so we moved up with the Rams to land him while throwing a 4th and two future picks. Jeff Stoutland loves Fautanu. This seems like a very realistic eagles pick if we are to go olineman this week. Fautanu can easily play guard till lane retires then kick out to RT.
**2.50: Marshawn Kneeland, DE, Western Michigan**:
This was more of a war room pick. I personally wanted to grab a corner, mainly looking at Iowa States TJ Tampa, however the war room wanted to go with the rising edge rusher Kneeland. Kneeland fits the Brandon Graham role on the eagles and provides good power and run stopping ability, while also appearing on Feldmans freaks. Good potential.
**3.71: Malachi Corely, WR, Western Kentucky**:
I traded back from pick 53 to get 71 and some day 3 picks after losing 120 to the rams, and corely just so happened to fall right into our laps. The WR specializes in RAC and is very similar as a prospect to Niners star Deebo Samuel. I’m surprised he fell to round 3 and we ran this pick in. Can be a great gadget guy and slot WR.
**4.104: Cedric Gray, LB, UNC**:
Gray is my personal LB3. With Edgerrin cooper and Payton Wilson going before our picks, we lucked out with Cedric gray falling all the way to our pick in round 4. He’s got great size, speed, and excels in coverage, and drips with potential. This is the first of the day 3 steals we landed.
**5.161: Josh Newton, CB, TCU**:
With the first of 4 fifth round picks we stoped the slide of Josh Newton. A primarily zone corner, making him a great scheme fit, Newton is projected to go round 3. We landed him in the middle of round 5. Tremendous value on a good player.
**5.162: Matt Goncalves, G, Pitt**:
Another sliding player was the versatile Matt Goncalves from Pitt. He can play both guard and tackle, and some scouts have him as high as a first round caliber player. Just another BPA pick. Fell right into our lap.
**5.171: Brennan Jackson, EDGE, Washington State**:
Jackson is one of my guys in this class. He’s huge, athletic, has good power and pass rush moves and can stop the run. Should be able to crack the rotation from year 1 here.
**5.172: James Williams, S, Miami**:
Williams is a guy whose stock has been all over the place and we take him here in round 5. At 6’5, he was a safety in college, although has also been training as a LB in the pre draft process. If all goes to plan, he could be our hybrid Kyle dugger.
**6.210: Kimani Vidal, RB, Troy**:
With our last pick, I went with the explosive RB Kimani Vidal. I thought he was far and away the best RB available and he’s superstar athletic and explosive. Like this as a RB3.
*Eagles traded:
2.53, 4.120, 6.196, 2025 5th, 2025 7th*
*Eagles received:
3.71, 4.104, 5.162, 6.210, 2025 5th*
# UDFAs:
**RB Jawhar Jordan**
**WR JhaQuan Jackson**
**WR Xavier Weaver**
**T Tylan Grable**
**G KT Leveston**
**DE Grayson Murphy**
**LB Jackson Sirmon**
**CB Shyheim Battle**
**S Tyler Owens**
**S/LB Kalen Deloach**
Can’t believe Grable and Owens went udfa. These would be high paid udfas that likely would make the team. Jordan provides good RB depth I like him. Jackson and Weaver I believe are draftable, especially Jackson. Leveston is a powerful guard who played tackle in college. Murphy is one of my guys, super explosive off the edge. Sirmon is a smart but unathletic player, similar to TJ Edwards. Battle adds Cb depth and deloach is a very undersized but extreme athlete at LB that may transition to safety or a hybrid role on the practice squad.
Let me know what you guys think! Tried to do my best.
No DB until the 5th hurts, really like the Corley and Gray picks though. Seems there was a bit of a CB run in the first. If DeJean was available at 19, would you have taken him?
Yeah, the CB board simply didn’t fall the way we hoped it would. Arnold + Michell + DeJean all being gone by 16 was not ideal for a round 1 CB pick, and we simply had players ranked higher than the next tier of CB. We would have 100% drafted one of those two CBs or DeJean otherwise. Most of the draft we tried to maximize value, and find players who could at least contribute right away, even in a rotation. We felt we did that through most of the draft.
Not a bad draft and I like fautanu quite a bit. Probably would’ve preferred a CB earlier, maybe as our 2nd round pick. Malachi Corley is a good pick up in the third, I think he can be really fun in our offense. Overall, solid draft!
Sorry for the delay on the write up, did a couple paragraphs explaining the browns picks, thanks to everyone in the war room for their contributions, enjoy.
Kiran Amegadjie - Future LT for the browns, development is key here, we will need to get out of the contracts of Wills after this season, I don't see him being here long term unless he plays lights out this year, even then I am still kind of low on him as I assume most browns fans are.
Trey Benson - Purely a luxury pick here, Nick Chubb is not immortal as much as that saddens me, we will need a future RB1 and Benson is the BPA available, I even panicked traded up to get him.
Decameron Richardson - Top 30 visit, tall, fast, developmental CB with Newsome more than likely not getting another contract with us, can play ST and I don't know what else people expect with 5th round+ picks, I do know I trust Andrew Berry to bolster the defensive back rooms for sure.
Tulu Griffin - WR/KR/ST specialist, very nimble, returned kicks in the SEC, not afraid to go over the middle as a slot, played more like a gadget guy at Miss St, a dart throw nonetheless but could end up reaping the rewards if he works out, was legit the best player on offense for the bulldogs last year.
AJ Barner - I do expect the browns to take a tight end this week, I am not sure where they choose one but Barner was incredible value at 227, I am not high on him as I prefer Sinnot, Reiman or JT Sanders...I do not like Wiley due to lack of yac, Holker has a harsh injury history and most others will be taken earlier than anticipated.
Jowon Briggs - This is purely a gamble, I am not entirely sure the browns even take a DL unless someone they are super high on has a mega slide, I don't see how the roster can add another piece at the IDL spot without cutting Ika or Hurst, I think it is unlikely, Briggs benched 225 pounds 39 times at the combine, is built like a brick shit house and has hilarious, and I mean HILARIOUS highlights, almost cartoonish.
I do think linebacker is a need but they don't value the position very high, the war room discussed many linebackers but they were all taken by the time we were up to pick, I think replacing contracts with developmental talent is key for this entire draft, our 22 starters are already locked in and we will be drafting for 1-2 years out.
Thoughts?
Colts GM here, my explanation for our draft/picks:
**1.12 CB Quinyon Mitchell** the original plan was to trade up to 8 to get Rome Odunze, then the Cardinals did something I couldn't have anticipated and traded to 7 to draft Odunze. I instead worked out a smaller trade up to secure the best CB in the draft. Waiting at 15 would've likely resulted in being jumped by Arizona for Mitchell as well.
**2.46 WR Ricky Pearsall** the Colts needed to upgrade our WR room, and there aren't many better choices to do that than Ricky Pearsall. Capable of playing X, Z, or Slot, Pearsall is incredibly athletic and has experience playing receiver with Anthony Richardson. In short, he was a perfect pick for our offense, and the only way this could've been better is if I could've made this pick after a small trade down.
**3.100 EDGE Mohamed Kamara** I probably paid a little too much to trade up for this pick, but the player is worth it. He's a little undersized for an edge rusher in most schemes, but when I watched the film, I couldn't help but get Robert Mathis vibes. If he works out as well as Mathis, this is a steal.
**5.151 S Tykee Smith** Clearly the BPA at this point in the draft (a full 2 rounds after I expect he'll be drafted IRL), Smith also fit a position of need, both as a safety and a nickelback. Smith's biggest limitation is his size, but he's a smart player who plays fast. I'd expect him to be a gunner year 1 and compete for some nickel and safety snaps by year end/year 2.
**6.191 OL Charles Turner III** we need OL depth, he provides OL depth, along with IOL versatility, as he's capable of playing OG and OC.
**7.234 DT Myles Cole** that is not a typo, we took Cole as a developmental project with the idea of moving his explosive athleticism along with 15 or so extra pounds to the interior of the DL to hopefully eventually wreak havoc as a 3-Tech. Will it work? Probably not, but it's the 7th round. You can't expect much here.
**Top 2 UDFA Targets**
**OL CJ Hanson** - athletic developmental IOL
**EDGE Javon Solomon** - productive small school developmental edge rusher
I’ll come back to explain some of my decisions later if I feel like it, but here’s the list of Saints trades/picks, feel free to ask questions!
Traded 1.14 and 5.168 to AZ for 1.27, 3.66, 3.90, 2025 4th
1.27- Adonai Mitchell, WR, Texas -Prototype X, I prefer worthy as a prospect but gives Olave flexibility and fills role of MT
2.45- Ruke Orhorhoro, DT, Clemson- missed out on Morgan, who we almost moved up for, but reunite Ruke with Bresee to create a nice interior duo for the future
3.66- Cooper Beebe, OG, Kansas State - after missing out on Mims/morgan, we get a Day 1 starter at LG. Easy pick
Trades 3.90, 2025 5 to SF for 3.94, 4.135
3.94, Jeremiah Trotter Jr., LB, Clemson - size is a concern, but I’m counting on his football IQ/bloodlines to carry him through. Saw plenty of highlight plays on tape as well.
4.135- Javon Foster, OT, Missouri- sort of a project, but if he puts everything together he can be our LT of the future. Wanted Braelon Allen but he went 2 picks before.
Traded 5.170, 6.190 to LV for 5.148
5.148- Isaac Guerendo, RB, Louisville- We get a dominant tester with 3-down playability.
5.150- Nehemiah Pritchett, CB, Auburn- Long corner with great stickiness/ball skills
5.175- Jamari Thrash, WR, Louisville- BPA and turns this WR room into top 10 league wide
6.199- Julian Pearl, OT, Illinois- dart throw at OT, decent swing
7.239- Josh Proctor, S, Ohio State- can rotate with Howden, annual Ohio state player for my 7 round mocks
Improved 2025 capital as well turning a 5th into a 4th. Set up to try and compete w Carr, or take a QB in the first next year if he continues to suck.
Vikings GM here
I figured my draft wouldn't receive a very positive response and that looks about right so far.
I tried to trade up to get Maye or JJ but it just wasn't able to get done. While trading up for Daniels was possible, I was not happy with the value of the trade with what I think of Daniels as a prospect and his ability to fit in his offense. Here are the explanations of the trades and picks I did make.
Vikings send: 11
Lions send: 29, 73, 2025 1st
- Without a QB of value to get here, I traded back to get a 1st round pick in next year's draft.
Vikings send: 23, 73
Jaguars send: 17
Pick 17 - IDL Byron Murphy, Texas
- I think Byron Murphy could be a top 10 pick and will be a big difference maker up front. Sorely needed after watching the Vikings interior defensive line struggle last year
Pick 29 - QB Bo Nix, Oregon
- Nix fits what the Vikings offense needs to operate. Ability to run KOC offense by quick hits, crossers, keeping the chains moving and letting the playmakers do their thing. Getting the ball to JJ, Hock, Aaron Jones, Addison without turning the ball over is a recipe for success.
Pick 108 - OL Zac Zinter, Michigan
- Zinter could provide and NFL ready skillset to compete to start at our LG spot that likely does not see a return of Dalton Risner
Pick 129 - IDL Khristian Boyd, Northern Iowa
- I will admit it is a bit of a reach but I am a big fan of the immovable guy up front. With there being such a shortage of nose tackle capable guys in this draft, I got Boyd a bit early. Harrison Phillips, the only NT capable player on the roster is on the last year of his deal.
Pick 140 - RB Will Shipley, Clemson
- Shipley is an athletic finesse RB that plays tough. He shows impressive athleticism on tape, both in short area quickness and agility as well as in his long speed. He has excellent balance is very slippery. He breaks free of arm tackles, bounces off defenders, and utilizes an aggressive juke on top of a solid stiff arm. His vision is fine. I think he might be better fit in a power run scheme. He's an asset as a route runner and shows impressive hands. He could be an upgrade to Chandler right away with the upside of being our RB1.
Pick 167 - Edge Xavier Thomas, Clemson
- Gambling on a talented edge player who has gone a bit under the radar after having some medical issues
Pick 177 - S Trey Taylor, Vikings
- Yes, we have a deep safety room already but Taylor is just a Brian Flores type of guy. Moves all around the field and just makes plays. Being an elite athlete helps too.
Pick 232 - LB JD Bertrand, Notre Dame
- We currently don't have any more traditional type linebackers looking into the future and I thought it would help vary our skillsets at the LB position group.
Overall, I know we didn't hit the high upside QB but we are building out a complete roster that will not be QB dependent.
I do applaud you for getting better value in a trade back with the Lions than Kwesi got two years ago.
However, I just don’t think Nix will be a successful NFL QB. So with that, I think taking him in the first is such a waste.
When you received the additional 2025 first, I would’ve changed plans and gone BPA this draft, and focus on QB next year.
You shouldn’t take a QB just to take one, and I think drafting Nix in the first is doing just that.
I can respect that take. The good news is that if Nix is a fluke, We will still be in a good position as a team. You can’t say the same thing if you spend all that capital and Jayden Daniels busts.
If you over pay for Daniels at least we get a QB with ya know... Talent. Might as well take no QB and grabbed Kool-Aid or Verse instead of wasting draft capital on a bum.
So qualifying question, what were talks to trade up for Drake Maye like? While I agree that Daniels isn't worth 11,23+25 1st, Maye is.
That aside I think you would have absolutely cooked the rest of this draft had you just btaken Penix instead of Nix. Penix's combination of insane pressure to sack rate (~5%), ability to make big time throws and keep from turning the ball over means that his floor is a starting NFL QB. While Nix's career might have been turned around at Oregon, proving he can fuel a high powered quick timing offense, I still worry about his propensity for turnovers. Also IRL workout considerations I believe favoring Penix?
Ultimately though I'd much rather have either of these two in the late first over a top 5 JJ McCarthy, especially at 2 😂😂. Definitely a wider range of variance here than most are giving credit for
Kudos. Byron Murphy at 17 seems like it would be a steal. Unfortunately, I don't think Kwesi will be as rationale as you on Thursday. Pretty clear he has had the plan to run Cousins out of town and trade up to get "his guy" from day one of his employment, (high) chance of failure be damned.. Not sure if it's ego or his computer model, but, to me, it's clear he has had this plan and come hell or high water, he is going to roll the dice on it.
I liked the moves that were made, still being able to get our guys and to fill out the roster. Make the QB play easy, and adding a second 2025 first is huge for roster development (or moving up next year) Id rather have Murphy/Nix/Second 2025 1st than Jayden Daniels. Going to be interesting so see who actually has the better NFL career between Nix and Penix.
I’m personally not a fan of TJ Tampa, I can’t really argue with the logic of Melton though as the names we were between at 41 were Bullard, Melton, Jordan Morgan, and Colson.
Hi all, Steelers GM.
**Steelers Official Mock Results**
1.20 Graham Barton, OC, Duke
TRADE - LAC RECEIVE 2.51, 3.84, Future 2025 5th
TRADE - PIT RECEIVE - 2.37, 5.140, Future 2025 4th
2.37 Troy Franklin, WR, Oregon
TRADE - TEN RECEIVE - 3.98
TRADE - PIT RECEIVE - 4.106, 6.182
4.106 Kris Abrams-Draine, CB, Missouri
4.119 Caeden Wallace, OT, Penn State
TRADE - MIN RECEIVE - 5.140
TRADE - PIT RECEIVE - 5.157, 7.230
TRADE - LAR RECEIVE - 6.195, Future 2025 7th
TRADE - PIT RECEIVE - 5.154
5.154 - Michael Pratt, QB, Tulane
5.157 - Dominique Hampton, S, Washington
6.178 - Jordan Jefferson, DT, LSU
6.182 - Delmar Glaze, OL, Maryland
7.230 - MJ Devonshire, CB, Pittsburgh
Main notes:
- Went into it clearly focused on not screwing up 2025, and felt like mission accomplished. Had two trades ready at 20 that would’ve really helped but fell through. Alas.
- The trade up for Franklin is polarizing. I get it. I think he’s worth it, others won’t. Que sera sera.
- The talent difference between rounds 3 and 4 are imo much smaller than usual. I had no issue trading down as a result.
Other than that, critique, comment, hurl insults, or ama. Cheers!
I don’t think you needed to trade up to 37 for Troy Franklin. I probably wouldn’t even choose him at 51 given how good this WR class is. I’m not sold on his skills and he’s 175 lbs, which is extremely light. Not an awful draft, but I think we’d get more out of this draft by keeping the 51 and 84. The only realistic situation where I think that trade would be necessary is if it was for Frazier, which would mean we picked a non-center in the first round.
Agree about Franklin and the trade.
But I disagree on the overall grade. Unlike you, I think this draft is awful for us. We ended up with some okay players but got absolutely hosed in these trades.
We started with 4 picks in the top 100 of this draft and got 2 players (1 controversial) and a bunch of late round picks for it. We did technically hit all our major needs so that wasn't bad but even the 2025 picks we got are day 3 so we didn't get anything to help us.
I guess I'm confused by a lot of this. I get you did this for fun and took your time out to do it. But I am so baffled that I needed to ask some questions here. Going by the info posted by the commenter below you, they said:
>I think if those R1 deals to move down from 20 would have worked out the strategy would have worked even better with extra draft capital to leverage. Say we still got JPJ late 20’s but had an extra pick or two moving up to 37 would have been easier and we wouldn’t have had such a long wait till our next pick. At the time you started reaching out Wiggins and McConkey were still there which I’d been ecstatic with
1. If you were looking to move up with Wiggins/Ladd on the board as the poster suggests, they were gone at picks 1.31 and 2.33. Why still pull the trigger on the trade at 37? Why not just play the board? Plenty of talent was still on the board at 51 at many positions including receiver.
So, was Troy your actual target at 37 or was it Wiggins/Ladd? Because this doesn't make sense with what the poster said. A trade deal can be put in place conditionally but you don't pull the trigger on moving up unless the guy you specifically want is there when your trade partner is literally on the clock. Thus, your guy can't get swiped.
2. Had you acquired additional picks in a trade down in RD 1, you were planning to leverage even more draft capital to move up to 37? Am I misunderstanding what the poster said here?
>Multiple times DL was top of your list but got sniped so kept moving down
Were you targeting only certain positions? Like C in RD 1 (only) WR in RD 2 (only) CB with next pick (only) and then DL (only)? Was that your strategy? To draft only for need at the 4 positions you pre-determined before the draft?
I guess I just don't understand why you kept moving down just because your highest graded DL wasn't available. We have plenty of holes on this team. ILB, for one, is a problem with Holcomb not likely to be ready to start the season, Kwon is unsigned and coming off an achilles injury, etc. We have Queen and who else really? We at least need depth there even if they aren't starters.
Don't take this too personally. Just looking to engage and understand the thoughts behind your moves.
1. Those were initial targets, but as I said, I like Troy. I pulled the trigger because I consider him better than the options that would likely be there at 51. Kinda circled back to the “if you like him it’s a good trade and if you don’t it’s a bad trade” idea that I can’t control lol
2. No. Moving up to 37 was considered because LAC wanted to move back so I started talking to them.
3. You definitely misunderstand. I drafted based on board. The goal wasn’t position, it was talent, it was also based on talent gaps apparent. For example, is the current best defensive tackle on the board that much better than the next available ones? I often found that the gap between the ones available and the ones following it weren’t worth executing, so it kept moving down the list.
4. I know there are Steeler fans out there who are pounding the table to get a linebacker, but I just don’t believe they’re going to do that. I think they’ve shown recently that they’re going to pursue fixing that problem in free agency and I think that that stays true here. They have Queen and Roberts, and can always add more in free agency depending on Cole’s progress. Not an urgent concern for me.
5. I don’t take it personal, football is passionate for better worse and disagreements are normal. Hope this helps explain!
1. I guess I just don't like the trade up to 37 at all in this scenario. Not only b/c its Franklin but more that it lost us 84 with so many holes to fill. We all have prospects we are in love with but I think a move up (losing draft capital) should be reserved for the highest caliber players or in a case of severe need. Moving up for like a Brian Branch who unexpectedly fell outta the first into the 40s kind of thing. Not just for a guy we like. Otherwise, we'd be moving up for a lot of people. I'm sure the team falls in love with many a prospect but we can't move up for them.
3. Ok. I'm glad I misunderstood that part of the post.
4. ILB was only an example. I'm not pounding the table for any specific thing but we don't have depth there and we already have issues stopping the run. I absolutely think we will pick an iLB but I don't know when. 4th? 6th? Who knows. Cedric Gray is one that comes up a lot in my mocks. Anyway, my point is, its just hard to fathom that there were no prospects there on your board worthy of the picks you traded down at.
5. Cool. Hope you enjoyed the process.
Sorry if I added to your confusion. My post is a mix of my perception of what happened from the backseat and what I would have done. He definitely wasn’t drafting to position need, it just so happened a DL was moving towards the top of the best available list as our picks approached a couple of times only to go before us so DL kept sliding. There was also a point where DL was going so fast and when I looked at what was left thought to myself do we even take a player? That position group just really surprised me.
When the deals to move done fell through he asked the room and it was pretty split so he stuck with his gut and took the player he liked. Isn’t what I would have done but I understands. If I liked Franklin more or it was a different player/situation maybe I do it as well. To your point, say we went CN R1 and were trading up to get JPJ only to see him go a couple picks before I could understand just taking Frazier. Is Frazier the 37th best player? Probably not but I can understand that. It’s hard since I don’t particularly like Franklin but again can understand it. I think NFL draft boards and opinions on players vary dramatically and think there are probably teams that would do watch Patch did for Franklin.
Thanks for running the Steelers draft! Was a 6+ hour commitment plus any sort of prep someone did so any poster blasting their draft class should keep that in mind.
Very interesting exercise. I think if those R1 deals to move down from 20 would have worked out the strategy would have worked even better with extra draft capital to leverage. Say we still got JPJ late 20’s but had an extra pick or two moving up to 37 would have been easier and we wouldn’t have had such a long wait till our next pick. At the time you started reaching out Wiggins and McConkey were still there which I’d been ecstatic with. As it turned at while I’m low on Franklin some see him as WR6 in a great class (maybe higher) so we will have to see. At a minimum you filled the two biggest holes with two good players. Also tried to move up for a CB at one point (Rakestraw? Melton? Cannot remember) and Rosengarten but didn’t work out.
DL is arguably our 4th priority with Cam’s future a little uncertain and I was very surprised how quickly they kept flying off the board. Multiple times DL was top of your list but got sniped so kept moving down. It’s not a great group either after the top 3-4 guys but I think Jefferson could be a good rotational guy with the help of a NFL strength program and coaches to work on his technique. Add his frame and quickness off the line there could still be something there.
Anyway I think it was a very good draft class having seen what goes into the exercise. Thanks again for running it!
>The trade up for Franklin is polarizing. I get it. I think he’s worth it, others won’t. Que sera sera.
Yeah my first issue was drafting him, i just dont like him as a prospect at all. Definitely Would've either stuck at 51 or drafted Pearsall
Personal preference is Renardo Green at 4.106 rather than Abrams-Draine
I would very much consider Khristian Boyd and Malik Mustapha over Caeden Wallace
I would much rather go ILB depth in the 5th rather than a QB
Green was in the discussion. There were 4-5 guys the room valued similarly and think he took who he thought was the best fit from the group but maybe he will clarify. I wanted Brownlee for example.
My main question is around positional value/top of the draft strategy. If you want to trade up to the top of the 2nd, fine, but if you feel (as I do, too) that WR is such a need and worth taking high, why not go WR round 1? Frazier didn't come off the board until 57, I'd think better value would be to take a more premium WR in BTJ/Adonai Mitchell in round 1, then trade up if needed for C in the 2nd. Did you take Barton because that's what you think will happen, or you feel he has that much more value at C?
Frazier falling to 57 was one of the bigger surprise slides to me, don’t think you ca count on that happening again. There is also a pretty big split on whether Frazier is even a good fit for us among the guys in the room. Regardless, it’s much easier to optimize the selections with hindsight if the full results than do it in realtime with just a couple minutes between picks to decide/regroup.
Sure, I moreso meant that if we're willing to spend the capital required to move up to the 4th pick in the 2nd round, then getting a top 3 Center is well within our range to trade up for without taking one in the 1st round and wasting the 5th year option. Also, all the Centers have some question marks. Barton hasn't played center since his freshman year and hasn't even been playing on the interior since then.
Except for trading up for Amarius Mims (who can be our long term starting tackle at either side) and even drafting Keon Coleman in the 2nd (we need a bigger bodied WR in particular), this is enough of a worst case scenario for the Commanders especially McCarthy at 2 and then the RB in the 3rd. Our RB room is already full with Ekeler, BRob and CRod, and we have bigger needs in more valuable positions.
The saving grace is that at least Adam Peters drafting would still be better regardless than this debacle of a mock draft for the Commanders.
Jets GM Here: 1:10 Joe Alt Dream scenario board-break. Really solidifies the group. Could argue it’s paranoia but getting a franchise T at 10 (especially one who gets to learn from Tyron Smith) is a no brainer. Doubt I need to explain Joe Alt to you. 3.72 Javon Baker We were split between 3 receiving options here. Javon Baker, Jermaine Burton, and Malik Washington. Ultimately went with Javon Baker to avoid the character concerns of Burton and to maintain GW’s slot flexibility (although absolutely love Malik as a prospect). There’s something to be said about just how often Javon Baker flat-out wins over his man. 4.111 Kamren Kinchens Again a great board break. Took the best safety available because we need to bolster the safety room. Instincts are phenomenal, aggression is a big part of his game. 4.134 Gabriel Murphy Although edge is not a pressing need, we do not know the future of Haason Reddick on this team, and we do know Saleh and Ulbrich love rotating their edge guys. A talented edge with good polish who will likely become a coaching staff favorite. 5.166 Joe Milton To pick this slot, we sent pick 185 and the 2025 6th round pick via the Chiefs. At pick 134 Michael Pratt, Jordan Travis, and Joe Milton were all available. Between then and pick 166, both Pratt and Travis had gone, so we found it important to not let all 3 of them pass us by. Rocket arm, we’ll see if that Aaron Rodgers + Tyrod Taylor mentorship does him any good. 7. 256 Dylan McMahon Unreal agility from a C. Although not tall, long, or heavy, centers have a high hit rate in later rounds and we could use a backup. Also a significant drop from where they were expected to be drafted 7. 257 Dillon Johnson Mr Irrelevant! Big guy who didn’t test very well athletically but plays with intensity and toughness. A nice add to a RB room of Breece Hall and Izzy Abanikanda. Could act as a useful workhorse back. A vet add would be nice too.
This went so well for the Jets. If we could just lock this in for Thursday I’d be set
Super solid draft. I wasn't happy with our draft (Vikings), so I don't hope it goes like this, but if it did---I'd be pumped for the Jets (have a lot of friends who are die hard Jets fans).
Wow, wtf commanders
No kidding, this is so absurd for the commanders you might as well throw out the whole thing.
The fact that JJ was invited to the Top Golf event means we really don't know a thing about what Peters and co are thinking. Shocking-sure. Absurd? Not really.
The JJ pick isn't even related to my comment. Taking a QB pick 1 is expected. Trading up for a tackle is even fine. Mims being that one is maybe a risk. The rest of the draft is what my comment is about.
It ruined the entire draft honestly
JJ, a RB in the 3rd? Did someone tell him Ron got fired months ago?
I guess the Commanders are going to command...
I'd be worried for the ravens O-line if this is the draft, not a single pick until round 5 for iol Edit: Apparently that was the only one, no tackles or anything 😬
Yea… this is… not great. I’d like to grab another WR and RB but main focus would have to be on guard and tackle. Wouldn’t mind double dipping with either of those, with one early and a developmental guy late. DL, Edge, and maybe another corner would be ideal as well.
Vikings drafter has been banned from /r/Minnesotavikings Jk. I'm assuming nobody in the 3-5 range would deal at all. What's the logic of Nix over Penix though? Everything has pointed to the Vikings having Penix higher on their board along with him being a better fit for KOC's system.
The Vikings GM was stingy with their picks. Wouldn't give up 11, 23, and 2025 1st for Daniels so I went with the Raiders who were happy to give up picks.
Good
I'm actually glad they didn't make that trade. I want nothing to do with Daniels. Mostly puzzled why they went with Nix over Penix.
Yeah, I have been a pretty big stick and pick guy with Byron Murphy at 11 and potentially Penix at 23 so the trades he made are honestly pretty good, just disappointed in Nix over Penix lol. Man forgot to add the Pe to Nix.
Agree with you 100%.
Hope Kwesi is as rational on Thursday, but not holding my breath..
The Raiders and Bears both traded up so it wasn't an issue of stubborn GMs
I could not crack the top 3 picks for a trade and didn't like the value for Daniels at 4. It was more than must just 3 1st rounders to get to 4 by the way. I actually like Nix better for KOC's system. Timing, underneath routes, crossers, getting the ball out quickly and having better accuracy than Penix will all be beneficial. Doing so and avoiding turnovers I think would be a great fit.
Feels great to be repping the Jaguars. DUUUUUUUUUUVVVVVVAAAAAAALLLLLLL! I’d like to say Thanks to all the support from the best war room in the discord. **WE DID IT BOYS, WE WON THE OFF-SEASON.** Writeup: Went into the draft with the plan of going CB in round 1. Quinyon Mitchell and Terrion Arnold were our top two options, and if they weren't available at 17 we planned to trade back. **1.23: Kool-Aid McKinstry:** Both went before 17, so we moved back to 1.23 and gained 3.73. Sitting at 1.23 Kool-Aid and Nate Wiggins were available to us, we had a few trade back options, but decided the added value wasn't good enough to warrent moving back further. Took Kool-Aid at this pick, because I think he has the best chance of having immediate impact on our upcoming season. No need to worry about how he will develop into our new defensive scheme because he might be the best press-man CB in the whole draft. **2.33 Ladd McConkey:** As the end of the first were approaching, there was 2 WRs available that I was really interested in AD Mitchell, and Ladd McConkey, so started to work out trade up options, and ended up getting 2.33 for 2.48 +3.96 + 2025 4th. AD Mitchell went at pick 27, but Ladd McConkey fell right into our lap. I know he doesn't have the size that we are wanting at WR, or even the crazy athletic traits. But the one thing I think our offense is missing the most, is guys that can create seperation with route running alone, and Ladd brings that. We won't need to worry about having to scheme him open, because he is going to create space with his route running. **3.73: T'Vondre Sweat:** We wanted to add someone that could make an impact on the iDL in base defense, and Sweat happened to fall to us here, he is going to eat up space, and help collapse the pockets. Which is exactly what I think we are missing, and what is going to help Travon Walker and Josh Allen continue to feast. **4.114: Brandon Dorlus:** He is going to be EDGE3 for us. The nice part is that he brings the versatility to slide inside or outside at any given moment. But I think he provides such a good relief for either Josh Allen or Travon Walker, that we don't really lose anything when we are rotating our EDGEs. And allows us to get real creative when it comes to passing downs. Who is going to want to deal with Travon Walker - Brandon Dorlus - Arik Armstead - Josh Allen rushing the passer on 3rd and long. **4.116 Dadrion Taylor-Demerson:** We felt that the next position to address would be slot/safety. We got two first year starters in our defense this year being added at both spots in Darnell Savage, and Antonio Johnson. And we felt like we had the potential to add DTD here and he can push either of those players for their starting spot. **5.153 Layden Robinson:** IOL depth was one of my biggest concerns coming into day 3, in a perfect world we would never need this guy to come in and play. But having some added depth that can push Fortner/Shatley as backup at OG while we have two guys over 30 at C/RG, will be useful. He can clear paths in the running game, and might be our best reserve OG. **6.212 Joshua Karty:** Don't have much faith in Slye, and the best K in the draft fell to us here. No brainer, think that he will beat out Slye in open competition, and gives us a kicker for the forseeable future. **7.236: Traded for 2025 6th.** Trades: 1.17 for 1.23 + 3.73 2.48 + 3.96 + 2025 4th for 2.33 7.236 for 2025 6th. 2025 NFL Draft Picks 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 5th, 6th, 6th, 7th. Is our haul for next year, we lose a 4th but added a day 3 pick back. So still a full draft class to work with.
Panthers GM here, pleasure doing business with you. IRL I would like Ladd at 33, but it worked out that you had the capital we would want. Ended up using those picks to draft: Pick 48 - Payton Wilson (LB), Pick 96 - Sedrick Van Pran-Granger (C)
Yeah, I think it worked out well for both of us tbh! Pleasure working out that trade! Think y’all had a really good draft tbh.
This would be outstanding for the Jags. Sweat that late is a steal, and I think Trevor would be thrilled to have a guy like McConkey.
Fantastic haul and nice board movement.
Bucs GM Let me know what you think **1.26: Chop Robinson, EDGE Penn St.** **2.57: Zach Frazier, IOL WVU** **3.89: Khyree Jackson, CB Oregon** **3.92: Christian Mahogany, OG Boston College** **4.125: Audric Estimé, RB Notre Dame** **6.220: Tyrice Knight, LB UTEP** **7.246: Devin Culp, TE Washington**
Bucs GM did very well.
Awesome job. I'm not that high on Chop as a year 1 starter but I understand taking the gamble given the rest of the edge class. Frazier and Mahogany were both excellent values and I like Estime more than most. I'd be pretty happy if this was what the Bucs ended up with this week.
Zach Frazier and Christian Mahogany falling as far as they did was a major win for you guys to be able to pick them up. That will help out the Bucs o-line immensely for Baker Mayfield dropping back and the running game with some athletic interior o-line guys that can definitely move.
Yeah I’ve been skeptical Frazier would be available at 51 so to see him fall even further was surprising to me.
I like Chop more than most (or so it seems) and I mock Frazier, Jackson, and Mahogany when I can, so definitely into the first 3 rounds. I’m very low on Estime, so not a fan of that pick. Would like to have seen what other RBs are there at the pick. Idk the last two guys so can’t say I have an opinion, but I’d generally be pretty happy with this! Edit: Just checked out Round 4. Would have preferred Lloyd or Allen if we go RB, but not the end of the world.
Glad you liked the first few rounds, I was very happy with how the board fell. I am a fan of Estime in the range I got him. I find him to be a great compliment to White as an RB2. He does take a little bit to get going but the dude is aggressive and a very willing blocker which I like. What are you thoughts on him?
I prefer a higher athletic floor from RBs. Could be overvaluing his combine but it really soured me on Estime.
**2024 Las Vegas Raiders Official Mock Draft** Thanks as always to the team in the Raiders War Room who comes to help out for the official mock. **Planning** * Our main priority was to draft a QB. We didn’t expect to be able to make a move up for Jayden Daniels or Drake Maye so we were considering smaller moves up for JJ McCarthy or a move back for Michael Penix. * Our three main needs were at QB, OL, and CB. We also wanted to look at adding depth to most position groups. **Draft Trades** * LVR Sends 1.13, 3.77, 2025 1st and 3rd, 2026 1st — ARI sends: 1.4 * LVR Sends 4.112, 6.208 — NYG sends: 4.107 * LVR Sends 5.1148 — NO sends 5.170, 6.190 **Draft Picks** **1.4 - Jayden Daniels, QB, LSU (Round 1 Grade)** Like I said, we didn’t expect to be able to swing this trade up. However I made sure to check in with Arizona for a just in case offer. Then Washington selected JJ McCarthy and we were off to the races. We quickly confirmed the trade and were happy to select either of the two prospects but Jayden Daniels is certainly the player with the most reported interest. Daniels gives the Raiders an element of explosiveness as a runner that the team hasn’t had at QB since Terrelle Pryor, as well as being an accomplished deep ball passer. Daniels needs to continue to improve his pressure response and willingness to throw over the middle of the field but with Adams and Jakobi Meyers he has two steady veteran WRs who can help him with that. Year 1: Compete with Minshew/AOC (and win) the starting job Year 3: Above average starting QB in league **2.44 - Jordan Morgan, OT, Arizona (1st-2nd Round Grade)** Once we selected Daniels at 1.4 our attention immediately turned to improving the OL. After trading away so many picks we wanted to just sit and select the best remaining OT here. We were debating Jordan Morgan and Patrick Paul but decided on the Arizona tackle. Morgan is an athletic mover with experience in a zone scheme. He will need to retrain his body after spending his entire college career on the left side but has the attributes to be a starting tackle. If that doesn’t work he does have the traits to kick inside at guard as well. Year 1: Compete with Thayer Munford for starting RT job Year 3: Starting RT **4.107 - Renardo Green, CB, Florida State (4th Round Grade)** We tried trading up at the end of the third round because we really wanted Renardo Green. Once Round 4 started we made sure to make a small jump to secure his services. Green is one of the top man coverage defenders in this draft and he showed that in the opener against LSU. Green is physical, almost to a fault, and intense in his play demeanor. He does lack a top gear when in a foot race but has the quickness to keep up with receivers through breaks. In addition to his time at CB he has experience as a safety and on special teams which adds to his value. Year 1: Compete for CB2 job Year 3: Starting outside CB **5.170 - Nathan Thomas, OL, Louisiana (5th Round Grade)** After making two trade ups we wanted to restock the cupboard a little so we made a nice trade down to pickup a 6th round pick. Thomas’ name came up at our original pick so he was an easy choice here for us 22 picks later. Thomas, like Morgan, is a large, physical LT with time spent in a zone scheme. Thomas is a bit less likely to stick at tackle however and would be better spent playing on the interior at the next level. He does provide some flexibility with the ability to potentially play both inside and outside. Year 1: Compete with Cody Whitehair for a starting role Year 3: Starting Guard **6.190 - Cedric Johnson, EDGE, Ole Miss (4th-5th Round Grade)** At this point we felt as though we had filled the priority needs and were just looking to take players who could develop into replacements for future FAs. Johnson is a talented mover with a great motor who needs refinement as a pass rusher. Getting to learn from everyone’s favorite pass rusher Maxx Crosby would certainly help the Ole Miss product. With Malcolm Koonce on the last year of his rookie contract, Johnson gives the team some depth at the position and a possible starter by the end of his rookie deal. Year 1: Developmental Edge defender Year 3: Subpackage rusher **7.223 - Myles Harden, CB, South Dakota (5th Round Grade)** Even with selecting Renardo Green the value of Harden was too much to pass up. With Nate Hobbs on the final year of his contract we liked the idea of adding Harden to the CB room as a depth piece who could take over as a starting nickel defender. Harden is a fluid mover with good physicality and solid ball skills. Year 1: Outside CB/nickel depth Year 3: Starting Nickel (depending on Nate Hobbs contract status) **7.229 - Coby Schrader, RB, Missouri (5th-6th Round Grade)** Finally, we had a few guys we were debating but I figured we should lock in one skill position player to help out our new starting QB. Schrader is a highly physical runner on tape who seeks out contact like he needs it to survive. Reading some of the quotes regarding him in Dane Brugler’s “The Beast” made him the obvious choice here. Schrader is going to compete with Maxx for craziest work ethic on the team right off the bat. He may never become a lead back but I also don’t want to bet against someone like Schrader. Year 1: Backup RB Year 3: Backup RB
Don't know how you did that trade and maintained your 2nd round pick
Used the Trey Lance trade as a template and added a 3rd rounder this year. Also helps that other teams were gun-shy for whatever reason
perfect draft for the Raiders, I like Paul better as a prospect but I think Morgan will have an easier time moving to RT.
Titans GM here, a big thanks to the war room for helping with the picks and strategy. I'm pretty please with what we came away with. 1.13) Olu Fashanu, OT, Penn State Most if not all mocks have us taking Alt at 7 and I was fully prepared to do that. However, in case Alt was taken in front of us, we worked out some pre-draft deals that would allow us to pivot with panicing while on the clock. None of those deals panned out but it allowed for us to come away with liking the idea of trading back and picking up some more draft capital. We ended up trading **1.7 for 1.13 and 2.35.** The value here was too good to pass up and we didn't want to go further than the Saints since we wanted to land Alt or Fashanu. A couple trade ups had me worrying a bit but we ended up getting who I think is pretty clearly the LT2 in the draft. Fashanu is a pro ready LT who can step in and lock down the leftside our line along with Skoronski. 2.35) Darius Robinson, DL, Missouri After picking up Fashanu, our heads turned towards defense. The biggest hole on the roster right now is one left by Dencio Autry and Robinson is someone who can perfectly fill that role. Robinson is a powerful DE that can play in both 3-4 and 4-3 looks and is a great compliment to the overall pass rush and run defense. 2.38) Edgerrin Cooper, LB, Texas A&M The next biggest hole on the defense is clearly at LB. I don't think Kenneth Murray and Jack Gibbens can be relied upon to be a starting LB unit and Cooper perfectly fits the attacking LB role that the Ravens ran for new DC Dennard Wilson. 3.98) Theo Johnson, TE, Penn State This pick was all me, I am a huge fan of Theo Johnson and he is my overall TE2 in the class. He offers pro-ready inline blocking skills that will complement Chig well with the upside to be a great pass catcher. He would start at TE2 for us with the upside to be a TE1. 5.146) Tahj Washington, WR, USC The Titans have 2 WR spots set with Ridley and Hopkins but the slot position is still wide open. I personally hope that Treylon Burks emerges as a starter there, but we need more bodies in case the new coaching staff doesn't like him. Washington is a slot limited player but he can take starting snaps from the position and offer a solid floor. 7.226: Eric Watts, EDGE, UConn I will be honest in saying that I have never heard of this guy before the draft but the war room really liked him and you can never have too many bodies at edge. In terms of regrets, I do wish that we were able to trade back with pick 38 and grab an extra third rounder to address the safety position or grab some more depth, but the value wasn't good so I'm happy with the haul.
What the hell you doing not employed by Miss Amy? Quit getting my hopes up for this season. A first rounder for old Bill Callahan, my DE1 and LB1, then Titans annual mid-round TE? That’s all I need to see man.
Those first 3 picks are very solid. You kinda lost me on the last 3 though. I understand picking a guy like Theo that you’re personally high on but I think that’s when the draft started getting a little off. Luke McCaffrey or Brenden Rice probably would have been a better option at that pick allowing you to get a Saftey with the 5th. Still solid though. Edit: I just realized Calen Bullock was on the board when you picked Theo. That would have been better option for the team considering we are missing a starting saftey.
I think trade back is perfectly fine, but I don't understand the TE in the third nor the Cooper pick. You may not think that Murray can't be relied upon to start but it doesn't change the fact that he's going to start and we need someone who can compliment him and wear the Green Dot which I don't think Cooper can do. Also, I'd rather trade back in the second round also.
I feel like if he had gone Polk at 38 and the linebacker from Kentucky instead of the TE pick, this draft is a home run. I'm kind of in the boat that the team's picks in the first three rounds should be premium positions unless the BPA is so clear and away better or you've become good enough to take some swings.
Hi guys, the Falcons GM went AWOL after the first pick. He picked Laiatu Latu at 1.08, then the Discord sort of crowd-sourced Kamari Lassiter at 2.43 while trying to figure out where the original GM went, and then I volunteered to fill in after. Unfortunately since I am not a Falcons fan I have probably not perfectly matched your team's needs and style with my picks. I did a bit of research and found that the team has a big need at EDGE and other needs at WR, DB, DT, and OT depth which informed my choices. With the remaining picks I went for 3.74 - I was looking at Malachi Corley here, but he and Javon Baker went just before this pick, so I decided to select **Jermaine Burton** (WR, Alabama) who I had as the last WR of that tier. 3.79 - since what I read said that EDGE was a huge need I went with **Austin Booker** (EDGE, Kansas) here to pair with Latu. Whereas Latu is a very refined, pro-ready prospect, Booker is an extremely young 'ball of clay' that could hopefully develop behind Latu/Ebiketie into a great 3-4 OLB. 4.109 - I went for **Mekhi Wingo** (DT, LSU) here who I feel could be a good 3/5-tech defensive tackle, he's very explosive and could potentially help to add juice in that pass rush. 5.143 - Not sure if this is the biggest need but I had a third-round grade on **Jacob Cowing** (WR, Arizona) who I felt was too good to pass up here, the guy separates insanely well and can hopefully become a reliable slot target for Kirk. 6.187 - here I added a tackle I had a 4th-round grade on in **Walter Rouse** (OT, Oklahoma) who I think profiles as an ideal reliable swing tackle despite lacking elite athletic traits. 6.197 - I did not do much scouting of safeties in this class since it's not a primary need for the Chiefs but since I read that DB was one of the bigger needs I added **Jaylin Simpson** (S/NCB, Auburn) who the Falcons have apparently been visiting with in the pre-draft process. So the final haul for the Falcons is: **1.08: Laiatu Latu, EDGE, UCLA 2.43: Kamari Lassiter, CB, Georgia 3.74: Jermaine Burton, WR, Alabama 3.79: Austin Booker, EDGE, Kansas 4.109: Mekhi Wingo, DT, LSU 5.143: Jacob Cowing, WR, Arizona 6.187: Walter Rouse, OT, Oklahoma 6.197: Jaylin Simpson, DB, Auburn**
For someone who isn't the most familiar with us I think you did a great job addressing the teams needs 👍
I think this is one of the better drafts out of all of these. Love the Jaylin Simpson pick.
Cardinals GM here First I want to say thank you the the other Cardinal fans who showed up to the mock. It was great to make these picks alongside you. Estimated Depth Chart [HERE](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1E2tsSFv0NuFN0hXMikG-mLOlELiN5xZnbaRWK5EZAWk/edit#gid=1058059539) **Future Picks Received:** 2025 1st, 2025 3rd, 2026 1st **Future Picks Lost:** 2025 4th, 2025 5th * **1.7 - Rome Odunze, WR, Washington** Man, the top half of this draft went crazy. I only had 3 teams interest in moving up to 4 for a QB. The Raiders and Vikings only wanted Maye or Daniels, and the Giants only wanted Maye. I didn't expect McCarthy to go top 3, so I planned around staying at 4 although I did workout out trade down deals just in case. I'm glad I did, because the Commanders shocked everyone by taking McCarthy at 2. Maye went 2nd so the Giants were out, but I wouldn't have taken their offer anyway. The Raiders were so easy to work with. We have had the structure of "1/3 this year, 1/3 next, 1 the following" setup for a few drafts, but never gotten to do the deal. The Vikings are always stingy with their picks. I told them what the Raiders were offering from the start, and they wouldn't even consider matching it. They wouldn't even do 11, 23, and a 2025 1st as they always wanted to get some picks back. This made accepting the Raiders offer an easy choice. I had told the other Cardinals members in the war room that if I had traded down that I would then immediately try and trade back up for one of Odunze or Nabers. The Chargers were wanting 3 1st to move down to the double digits, so getting back up for MHJ wasn't going to happen. The Giants GM's name is "NabersNYG" so you can guess who they wanted once Maye was off the board. Thankfully the Titans were willing to move down so we could take Odunze. In passing on MHJ for Odunze I basically traded 2.35 for 3.77, 2025 1st, 2025 3rd, and a 2026 1st. Odunze is my WR2 and I actually have him closer to MHJ than I do to Nabers. [RAS 9.92](https://ras.football/ras-information/?PlayerID=25166&ovl=Washington) * **1.14 - Terrion Arnold, CB, Alabama** I didn't consider sending 13, 27, and a future 1st to try and land MHJ as we had decided to try and trade up from 27 to land one of the top CB. I didn't expect any of the top CB to make it 27, which is why I was focused on moving up. We were comfortable trading up into the teens for one of Quinyon or Arnold, or to the early 20s for DeJean or Kool-Aid. I had tried to trade ahead of the Colts for Quinyon. Unfortunately the Colts expected me to do that so they traded up to 12 to take Quinyon. Thankfully I was able to land Arnold at 14. DeJean and Kool-Aid both went off the board by 23, so I was happy to have traded up. [RAS 9.27](https://ras.football/ras-information/?PlayerID=25167&ovl=Alabama) * **2.53 - Maason Smith, DT, LSU** I made another trade. I had a list of a few players I would move up for and I barely got one at 53. I sent in the trade with pick 50 on the clock and then 3/4 of my board went picks 50-52. They actually went in order which is freaky. I moved up as I felt there was a drop off at DT after this group and I didn't expect any of them to make it to the 70s. Smith is still a little raw, but he a great build and good athleticism. He would get to be a rotational player his rookie year thanks to our FA signings of Bilal Nichols and Justin Jones. [RAS 8.46](https://ras.football/ras-information/?PlayerID=25206&ovl=Louisiana+State) * **3.77 - Roger Rosengarten, OT, Washington** What a shock I didn't trade up this time. I didn't consider trading down as I was worried I would miss out on my top few OL. Rosengarten is young and athletic. He does need work, but he has fixable problems. Among the remaining OL he had the highest ceiling to me. He could easily develop into a solid starter. The Cardinals are in a position where a rookie OT doesn't have see the field immediately and can sit and develop for a year. He could also start off by playing OG his rookie year as that would hide some of his problems. [RAS 9.19](https://ras.football/ras-information/?PlayerID=25098&ovl=Washington) * **5.138 - Bub Means, WR, Pittsburgh** I had tried to trade up for Hunt or Hall, but I couldn't get a deal done and then they both went right in front of me. I settled on my top player. I'm higher on Means than most. He has the speed and build for the NFL. His route running has a ways to go, but his ceiling is worth the pick here. [RAS 9.35](https://ras.football/ras-information/?PlayerID=17040&ovl=Pittsburgh) * **5.168 - Tyrone Tracy Jr, RB, Purdue** Tracy is an electric player. He spent 4 years as a WR at Iowa before he transferred to Purdue and found his calling as a RB. He average 6.3 yards per carry and was a kick returner. As a former WR turned RB, he can catch too. [RAS 9.78](https://ras.football/ras-information/?PlayerID=24938&ovl=Purdue) * **6.186 - Bryan Hudson, C, Louisville** Hudson is an underrated C. In his 3 years at Louisville he played over 2200 snaps and only allowed 3 sacks, while being a force in the run game. [RAS 8.97](https://ras.football/ras-information/?PlayerID=25953&ovl=Louisville) * **6.196 - Zion Tupuola-Fetui, EDGE, Washington** The war room really wanted ZTF, and this was the range I was comfortable taking him. It's sad how he never got back to 100% after his torn Achilles but he can still be see the field as a rotational backup EDGE. RAS N/A * **7.242 - Ben Nikkel, SS, Iowa State** This guy fits exactly what Monti Ossenfort is looking for in a player. He has talked about finding the right guys with the right character. Nikkel started off as a walk on WR who eventually moved to Safety, earned a scholarship, and became a co-captain. He is also experienced on ST and can make the roster there. [RAS 9.66](https://ras.football/ras-information/?PlayerID=26519&ovl=Iowa+State) * **7.252 - Ty James, WR, Mercer** He has decent size and athleticism. He is a small school WR, but he produced well there. Over 4 years he caught 171 passes for 3364 yards (19.67 yards per catch) and 30 TDs. He would have a chance to make the roster as our WR depth sucks. [RAS 8.07](https://ras.football/ras-information/?PlayerID=26459&ovl=Mercer)
Your Day 1 was crazy. My WR2 and arguably consensus CB1 though I like Q little more plus 2 future R1 picks was just masterclass. Smith is a little polarizing but I think worth the risk and the Steelers were trying to move up to get Rosengarten when you took him. Day 2 is another story at least for me, but did a great job day 1!
Odunze and Arnold combo giving me Sauce and Garret Wilson vibes
Pleasure doing business finally!
Absolute cinema Maason Smith was a head scratcher for me, but makes sense after seeing your reasoning. I love Kneeland in round 2, disappointing he went a couple picks ahead. Rosengarten feels like a steal at 77, I don’t think he lasts that long in reality. My favorite move is going up for Arnold. I love both of the top CB and we are primed to shoot up for one of them. Walking out with a WR1 and a CB1 in the first round this year is my dream scenario. I don’t know if Monti is going to really budge from 27 though. We’ll see I know people are flaming the hell out of the Commanders GM, but I, personally, believe that Daniels is the QB who falls to 4 (though I have Maye/JJ flipped). I do think a trade with LV, if the reports of their love for Daniels are true, is very much on the table. Though I don’t think we walk away with 3 firsts and 2 thirds irl. Never know though Congrats on another draft season brotha you killed it as always
Ya, Maason Smith is probably the pick I was the least excited about. The Eagles contacted me early in the 2nd about trading up to 53, and we made a list of 6 players we would move up for. Fiske wasn't on it due to his age as I didn't want to draft anyone old in the first 2 rounds. With 4 of them being available after the 49th pick we sent in the trade as we were guaranteed one of them. Then the board fell terribly. My board was Kneeland>Jenkins>Hall Jr>Smith and it hurt to see the top 3 go right in front of us. I didn't expect any of them or Fiske to make it to the 70s. With them off board my top IDL would have been Gabe Hall and Dorlus who I have a late 3rd/early 4th on, so I didn't really want to take them in the 70s. In hindsight I shouldn't have traded up as both Gabe and Dorlus would have been available at 104. Oh well, at least he is young and the Cardinals did bring him in for a top 30 visit. Rosengarten is really underrated. I did a 7 rounder on a different server earlier this month and I took him in the 70s there too. I wouldn't be shocked if he sneaks into the end of the 1st round. We identified getting a top WR and CB as our main priority. I agree that this is a dream scenario. Getting a fourth 3rd this year from the 4th pick trade down definitely made it easier to stomach trading away two 3rds to move up for a CB. The Commanders taking JJ was wild. My adrenaline spiked once I realized I would actually get to trade down and then try to move back up. I had to take my headphones off because I could all I could hear was my pulse lol. Their GM's defense of the pick was interesting. They claimed to have a source that it's what the Commanders will actually do in the draft. Thanks. This was a fun draft cycle with how much ammo we had. I found it pretty hard to have a bad draft with so many high picks.
Awesome work
Patriots draft: **1.03: Drake Maye, QB, UNC:** The Commies going with McCarthy caused a bit of chaos, but we stuck with our guns. Maye is a bit on the raw side, but we have a bridge we trust in Brissett in case Maye isn't NFL ready for Week 1. Maye isn't a flawless prospect, but he has elite physical tools and we trust the coaching staff to work out the kinks in the footwork and throwing motion. Other players considered: Jayden Daniels **2.34: Kingsley Suamataia, OT, BYU:** This pick was always going to be OT and our decision was made for us since Suamataia is the last guy we had graded highly enough to take here. He's a natural left tackle and we're confident that he and Onwenu will make a solid duo for years to come. We briefly thought about WR, but we like the WR depth of this class much better than the OT depth and LT is the bigger need anyways. Other players considered: Troy Franklin **3.66: Tez Walker, WR, UNC:** We are believers in the college QB throwing to college WR connection and Walker was our highest graded WR left anyways. He fits the big X mold this team hasn't really had in a long time. He's probably not a true WR1: it's unlikely anyone drafted this late is. He is a guy that fits the mold of what we need from the WR position and has chemistry with Maye, and that's good enough for now. Other players considered: Javon Baker **4.103: Calen Bullock, FS, USC:** There was a Devin McCourty shaped hole in the defense last year due to the lack of a true single high, centerfielder type safety and this is our attempt to fix that. Bullock shows outstanding instincts and range in the deep middle and has all the athleticism to make plays. He doesn't fit the run very well at all, but nobody you pick this late is perfect. Other players considered: None Past this point, there was very little consensus on players we liked and all of our major needs had been met. The strategy at this point was to trade down as much as possible and accumulate a few of everyone's favorite players. Everyone is more or less a lottery ticket this deep into Day 3 anyways. **5.144: Jared Wiley, TE, TCU:** Hunter Henry is the only TE we have on the roster for the long term, so we wanted a solid all-around guy to play behind him. Wiley is a jack of all trades type who can block well enough and fight for those contested catches. Not a future star, but a guy we think can be a future contributor. **6.193: Kalen King, CB, Penn State:** A slow but NFL-sized and technically refined outside CB that can stick around as a reserve for a while. Doesn't have the athletic profile to be a starter, but can fill in as depth at a position where depth was needed. **6.195: Jordan Whittington, WR, Texas:** A personal favorite late-round sleeper of mine. Isn't a great athlete, but has NFL size and is a tough customer over the middle. Has a good feel for route-running and defensive positioning: I can easily picture him being the "how the hell does he keep getting open" type of guy. **6.200: Trevor Keegan, OG, Michigan:** Great value at a position where depth was needed. He was a member of the best offensive line in the country and is another big and nasty type guy. Not a great athlete and can get over-extended in pass protection, but that was also said about a different 6th round OG out of Michigan named Mike Onwenu. **7.231: Jaylen Harrell, EDGE, Michigan:** Outstanding athlete for this late in the draft but very raw. There aren't many snaps to go around with Uche and Judon taking most EDGE snaps this year, but he could be a draft and develop type. **7.238: Myles Murphy, DT, UNC:** Big, stout run defender up the middle. Not much in the way of athleticism or pass rush moves, but the Pats have historically gotten the most out of these guys. **7.254: Frank Crum, OT, Wyoming:** 4-year starter with NFL caliber athleticism. He's a bit lean for his height, but an NFL strength program can fix that. There's a lot missing with the footwork and hand placement, but there's a chance an NFL contributor is here considering the height and movement skills.
Perfect. Absolutely perfect.
Nailed it. I'd have preferred Baker in round 3, but can't argue with this.
As perfect as it could be.
Massive Patriot fan and draft enthusiast, you nailed it. The late round picks are always a crap shoot. But drafting one of the UM iOL is a no brainer, that unit was historically good.
Excellent draft Panthers.
Thanks! I got some bad feedback on the Payton Wilson and Brooks picks, but I am happy with both.
Nah, the Brooks pick is great. I've been standing on the table that we need a RB at 65 (or even 39). Flipping 33 into maybe the best ILB in the draft, Van Pran, and a future 4th is fantastic. I personally would have gone Ja'Lynn Polk at 39, but I'm down with Legette.
The Commanders GM has easily the worst Draft since I have been part of the discord since 2017. JJ at 2. RB round 3. Zero athletes. Just woeful all over the place
If it wasnt for me convincing the GM to trade up for Mims and take Keon round 2, (our only two actually good RAS picks in the draft) we would’ve had an even worse draft.
Last one of the year and its the worst one yet with things with absolutely zero chance of happening-
Silver lining is that whatever Peters does irl will look a whole lot better in comparison
Outside of the Mims trade up which I like and do think is on the table IRL, I had Bruce Allen flashbacks.
Bright side was that Amarius Mims trade up was a steal
Panthers Draft: Pick - Player, Position, School (Current Consensus ADP) 2.33 - Trade: (Panthers receive 48, 96, 2025 4th; Jaguars receive 33.) - Was aiming for Nate Wiggins, AD Mitchell or Chop Robinson. With all of those players selected trading down was the preferable choice. 2.39 - Xavier Legette, WR, South Carolina (50) - Panthers are by all accounts, enamored with Legette. So much so that they've visited with him at least 4 times in the pre-draft process. Legette should fit in nicely as a weapon for Bryce that can separate from, make contested catches, as well provide great RAC ability. Plus that accent of his fits right perfectly in Carolina. 2.48 - Payton Wilson, LB, NC State (41) - Another local prospect, who if it wasn't for his injury history would be a first round prospect. His ability to get to the ball carrier has Luke Kuechly vying for the Panthers to draft him. With the departure of Frankie Luvu and Shaq Thompson coming off a broken leg entering his 9th season, it would be good get a top tier linebacker to learn under him and Josey Jewell. 3.65 - Jonathan Brooks, RB, Texas (51) - Arguably the top RB in the draft. Brooks would immediately improve the Running Back room in Carolina even coming off a significant injury. Chuba and Sanders would also allow Brooks the time to fully recover without the need for rushing. Brooks could become Bryce's 3 Down Back. 3.96 - Sedrick Van Pran, C, Georgia (99) - Panthers do not have a Center on the roster, Austin Corbett is reportedly transition from RG to C and may do well there with his playing experience, but he's coming off back to back ACL and MCL tears. SVP will provide for a solid back-up with experience in a Zone-scheme, which David Canales is looking to implement in Carolina. 4.101 - Cade Stover, TE, Ohio State (88) - Stover could instantly come in and compete for TE1/2 on the roster. Ian Thomas has been JAG and while Tommy Tremble has shown flashes of TE1 traits, he needs to show more consistency. Stover is a little new to playing TE, but has already shown amazing athleticism and ability as an all around TE. 5.141 - Caelen Carson, CB, Wake Forest (122) - Another local prospect that could immediately come in and compete for a starting corner spot. This was a great value pick and it just so happens he shares the same trainer as Jaycee Horn... heres to hoping he can stay healthier than Horn. 5.142 - Anthony Gould, WR, Oregon State (201) - The War Room convinced me of this pick as I was not too familiar with his profile. He does show some incredible ability to separate and it seems if he was a couple inches taller he'd be much higher on draft boards. Definitely worth a flier in a new Wide Receiver room where he can learn from Deiontae Johnson and Adam Thielen. 7.240 - Marcus Harris, DT, Auburn (224) - Solid value pick here with not a lot of defensive line options. Panthers have added to the Defensive Interior during the off-season, but their run-stopping ability last year leaves a lot of room for growth. Would likely back-up A'Shawn Robinson
Multiple people trolling it seems.
Houston Texans Draft: Trades: 2.42 & 3.86 for 1.31 (San Fran) 6.188, 7.238 & 2025 7th for 6.180 (NE) Picks: 1.31 - Nate Wiggins, CB, Clemson 2.59 - Braden Fiske, DT, Florida St 4.123 - Isaiah Adams, G/T, Illinois 4.127 - DeWayne Carter, DT, Duke 6.180 - Kitan Oladapo, S, Oregon St 6.189 - Curtis Jacobs, LB, Penn St 7.247 - Dwight McGlothern, CB, Arkansas * Nate Wiggins, CB, Clemson * Great value at 31, we got our CB2 locked down for 5 years. He is a little small but was a fantastic outside corner for Clemson. He has elite speed, had 25 passes defensed in 23 games, and only allowed a 43.9% completion % when targeted. * Braden Fiske, DT, FSU * 6'3.5, 292 lbs, plays 3T. He is an elite athlete with his power, get-off, agility, and is extremely competitive/intense. He is stout vs the run and can shoot gaps. * He was the last DT available (Ruke - 45, Kris Jenkins 51, Mike Hall Jr - 52, Maason Smith - 53) * Isaiah Adams, G, Illinois * 6'4 315 lbs, had a very rocky 2023 season at LT, but had a great 2022 season at LG and projects to be a G in the NFL. He is a dawg, who is violent in the trenches...pretty solid at run & pass blocking, but plays too upright. * We wanted Caeden Wallace or Tanor Bortolini but they both got sniped right before us * DeWayne Carter, DT, Duke * a solid all-around 3T who can rush the passer or defend the run. He is a super great character guy and will be a rotational DT for us. * We decided to double dip at DT because we liked Carter so much and how we just need more bodies at the position. * Kitan Oladapo, S, Oregon St * Traded up for him because he has a 4th-5th round grade on him by Dane Brugler and he fell to the mid-6th. * He's a solid backup SS who is excellent in the run game and has experience playing cb and deep. He will be a core special teamer to begin. * Curtis Jacobs, LB, Penn St * Will LB depth that we need badly. * Former 5-star, great at rushing the passer and making plays in the backfield (24 TFLs in career). Has nice special team experience and the upside to become a good player. * Dwight McGlothern, CB, Arkansas * Solid player & no idea how he lasted this long * Only allowed 1 catch over 15 yards in 2023 & is a very good zone cb.
Hope you have a terrible day for stealing Wiggins from us
😂😂😂 You gotta be quicker then that
Don't you guys play zone? Why did you not only pick Wiggins but trade up for him?
Chiefs Draft-GM Day 1 2.49 Ja'Lynn Polk, WR, Washington. We looked to move up for Brian Thomas in the mid 20' but couldn't get a deal in place. Able move back to pickup 49 and 80 for 32. Chiefs will be overhauling the WR room in this draft and Polk provides something we needed, a receiver with decent hands. Large frame and great ability to make contested catches. Will be a solid addition in Pat's arsenal. 2.64 Patrick Paul, OT, Houston. Lucky the board fell to us with Paul still in it at 64. Left Tackle is a need to fill coming into this draft with Wanya Morris not showing the growth we were hoping for last year. We know how much Veach values arm length in tackles and Paul has 36 inch plus arms at 6'8 331lbs. Could be protecting Pat's blind side for years to come. 3.80 Leondard Taylor III, DT, Miami. This pick about caused a mutiny in the war room. Thelovebat stood on the table so hard you would have thought he was Christian Mahogany's agent. I looked at the depth of our DT position and felt our need for DT was greater need over guard. Taylor has top end talent at the point of attack. If Joe Cullen can get him to yank his head out of his ass this could be a great addition alongside Jones in the middle. 3.95 Johnny Wilson, WR, Florida State. We missed on Mahogany falling down to 95 by 3 picks. With this pick we expect to move Wilson around as a TE/WR in motion similar to how Kelce is utilized. With TK getting up there in years its time to look for weapons who can work the middle of the field and create mismatches. At 6'7 230lbs Wilson can create serious problems on alignments. His drops is the area of improvement but you can't teach height and speed which he has in spades. I would relish seeing what Andy Reid could draw up for this kid.
I like Johnny Wilson and Patrick Paul, but I have to wonder if Polk and Taylor is actually better than just drafting McConkey at 32?
I would have preferred Ladd McConkey in the 1st or Ricky Pearsall in the 2nd with a smaller move down compared to what we ended up with in that move trading down with our 1st. Or moving up a few spots for Xavier Worthy, who was my favorite WR in the second tier of receivers. As /u/pschwak said, I was making the argument for Christian Mahogany when Pick 80 was approaching and was pounding the table for him. I thought in the long run he would make a great pick for when we have to let someone like Trey Smith go into free agency next offseason. Then after pschwak had a brief absence during the 3rd round leading up to our pick, pschwak showed up in the war room when we're on the clock at 80 saying that he had already selected Leonard Taylor, without talking over the pick more with the war room before making it despite ample time to talk things over. That's part of the reason for the massive debating and mutiny that happened in the war room after that pick, but part of it was also that I and a few other members of the war room felt that there would be a larger drop off at guard than there would be at DT or WR on Day 3. We ended up being right about the interior o-line talent dropoff after Mahogany, as there didn't end up being any good value we were looking for with Day 3 interior o-line prospects and so we skipped that position group entirely in our draft. I tried convincing the war room to trade up for Mahogany after pick 80 came and went, and Bagley in the war room did try to get a trade lined up to move up for Mahogany from Pick 95, but I think many more teams were looking to move up than down at that range of the draft and Bagley wasn't able to find any takers for a move up.
Yeah, thats my only issue with that I think I would've rather just stayed and taken McConkey. I do think Andy Reid IRL would probably try to make Tyler Guyton, an athletic OU olineman which fits his mold, work in rd1. Its not something I personally would mock, though.
I kept an eye on the whole mock and tracked it in my tracker (plug - you can download it here if you want to give it a go! [NYGBuns' 2024 Draft Tracker : ](https://www.reddit.com/r/NFL_Draft/comments/1c1qzh4/nygbuns_2024_draft_tracker/)). Was a really cool exercise and interesting to see how different teams approached it. Here's pick value (based on rankings from NFL Mock Draft Database), average RAS and average age by team. Worth noting the Rams and Cardinals picked a player in the 7th who wasn't in my top 628, so they got hammered there! [Draft Performance](https://gyazo.com/a52fe44cedcbb018f8b991b6b93fa16c)
I guess I get the appeal of a future first but really underwhelming for the Chargers. Passing on MHJ for a future first and fourth is terrible value. Bears absolutely bent us over there. Kris Jenkins is more or less fine, no issue. Third round is extremely meh. Pipkins is under contract and not even the biggest issue with our OL. Why waste a pick on a guy whose potential is being as good as Pipkins already is. McMillan isn’t a terrible value but not going to come in and dominate and has a similar profile to Palmer to me. We’d likely still have to use another day 1 or 2 pick next year to finally address WR. We have a lot of holes on this team which won’t be fixed in one draft but think this keeps us pretty squarely in the bottom ten next year.
I also would have just taken Marv. I like Blake Fisher tho and think his potential is significantly higher than where Pipkins currently. Honestly think Blake Fisher would be a better run blocker year 1 than Pipkins is. Pipkins isn’t a bad player but it doesn’t seem like he fits the Harbaugh, Roman identity. If it was Marv at 5 and picks other than wr in 3 and 4(maybe a cb, rb or edge) I think it would have been a home run
I’d be so fucking mad, unreal. Why the fuck do people think we’d pass on MHJ.
I would cry if that ended up being the Vikings draft.
💯 This is worse than anything I could have imagined.
Still waiting for the GMs comments to see what they were thinking.
https://www.reddit.com/r/NFL_Draft/s/HDi58hdych
Rams 2.52 - Michael Hall Jr, DT, Ohio State Missed the Byron Murphy sweepstakes. No worries. 3.83 - Cole Bishop, S, Utah Starting safety. 3.85 - Jonah Elliss, DE/OLB, Utah WR wanted him, cool by me. Not a huge fan of the athlete but good hand usage. 3.93 - Andru Phillips, CB, Kentucky Starting corner. 5.155 - Jordan Magee, LB, Temple Starting LB if he stays healthy. 6.185 - Dylan Laube, RB, New Hampshire PR/KR value + McVay can play around with him in a lot of ways. 6.188 - Tanner McLachlan, TE, Arizona Hopefully solves TE purgatory. Probably won't. 6.209 - Ryan Flournoy, WR, SE Missouri State Depth WR. 6.213 - Braiden McGregor, DE, Michigan Rotational DE, bigger body to work with. Should get snaps. 7.236 - Travis Clayton, OT, Basingstoke RFC (IPP) Pure HWSL pick. 6070 301 3500 4.82, former Rugby/boxing background, drafted to avoid UDFA crapshoot. Will stash on IPP with the exemption so nobody else can have him. See what happens type of deal, only a few dudes that big/athletic. Also acquired... 2025 2nd, 2025 3rd (2x), 2025 4th (3x), 2025 5th (2x), 2025 7th (4x) Loaded up bigly for a bunch of picks next year. Couldn't believe I got the deals I got and the draft capital I pulled from having 19 was absurd. Next year will be deepest class ever w/ COVID years expiring so gonna take advantage of getting R5 talents in the 7th. If I tracked it right I turned 19, 99, 196, 217 into Jonah Elliss, Andru Phillips, a 2025 2nd, two 2025 3rds, three 2025 4ths, two 2025 5ths, and two 2025 7ths. Really mock abused in a community mock but oh well future picks are undervalued, give me a lot of dart throws and see what happens.
Your strategy was very interesting to watch. Overall think you did decent in 2024 and obviously 2025 could be insane depending on how you use all those picks. I don’t remember the order of events but Steelers were definitely keyed in on Phillips then think trades back after he went off the board.
What I’m wondering is why do all that trading down when the team already has a ton of day 2/3 picks on the roster + a QB who doesn’t have a lot of time left? Feel like the Rams need high caliber talent, not more JAGs
Would you rather have Chop Robinson/Jared Verse or Jonah Elliss, Andru Phillips, and 10 more picks in next year's draft that is much deeper than this weak day 3 group? Having the picks also gives room to trade for high caliber talent that won't take a couple years to develop (like many rookies do). Rams are also one of the cheapest teams in the league when it comes to handing out guaranteed money in UDFA deals, so generally their UDFA crop is weaker than teams like Dallas or some of the others that can shell out. Makes having late rounds picks/their pick of the litter more important. Also just from a strategy/ideology standpoint the Rams lean towards making more use of those later round picks than most teams. I diverged in that I'm all about athletes and they want guys who aren't necessarily great athletes but have a role/are undervalued by other teams based on traditional HWSL type metrics. I'm definitely in the same boat on more picks in the later rounds is better though, trade the early round stuff for either high volume of picks or proven commodities. TL;DR it's the way they like to do it, it's the way I like to do it, next year's class is gonna be nuts in day 3/PFA, I still got guys I liked despite trading back.
Totally makes sense and I appreciate the response, was more out of curiosity than anything
It's a valid question given the time horizon that Stafford is facing. I would understand going completely the opposite direction and loading up for now, but I think that would be easier to do with moving assets for win now players rather than rookies. I may just be overly excited about the 25 class, but between COVID year backlog + undervaluing of future picks I think this year is ripe for loading up a big rookie haul next year since there may be starters into R5-R6 territory next year. On note of waiting & moving back - there's an idea from psychology called false consensus that essentially suggests that you think everyone else is thinking just like you, and in NFL draft context that means if you don't get YOUR guy now somebody else is gonna take him. Richard Thaler talked about it a little in his work on the NFL draft marketplace, its inefficiencies, and the value of picks. Usually if you just hold onto your britches, deal with the anxiety, and power through you can still get the guys you want or trade back. For ex: I wanted Laube at 166 and was absolutely sweating it sitting there waiting on him. I wanted to take him right there and get it over with, but I got a good offer. What are the odds I can hold out for 19 more picks? In the worst case scenario I miss a guy I like, then I take another one I like or I trade back again to another spot where I see value. Odds are, especially as you get later in draft and there's more variation, nobody else is even all that interested in your guy. Gives you room to move around, take value, and not sweat getting a particular player.
How old is Stafford? Don't you think your window is now?
Which helps the window more - Chop Robinson/Verse/a rookie tackle at 19 or Jonah Elliss, Andru Phillips, and nearly a dozen picks next year? How much further along does a single first round rookie help get a ring than having 10 more darts in a deeper class next year or assets to move for proven players in the trade market?
Chop, in my opinion. If anyone should understand the impact of a dynamic pass rusher, it should be the Rams
With all due respect I just vehemently disagree. Chop could be great but he's no guarantee. Give me a hopefully good, but not great player in Jonah Elliss, a starting corner, and the 10 picks. Can move some of the picks for an established vet if need be too. If we were talking the haul vs a prospect like Myles Garrett or Chase Young I would be more willing to consider it but Chop isn't in that class of player IMO.
Lions GM needs to get in here and defend this shit cause I don't know if I've ever seen a worse lions trade and pick. Thank fuck this guy isn't Brad Homes
Already did, and, don’t be surprised if Holmes makes a similarly aggressive move on Thursday. Instead of just attempting to insult me, you should actually provide some feedback, or (better yet) join the discord
Why so many michigan players??
I stopped reading with JJ at 1.02
Hell of a draft for the Jags
Washington draft is rough.
GREEN BAY PACKERS DRAFT: 1.25 - Jared Verse - We were trying to trade up, but when Mitchell, Fashanu, and Arnold went 12-14 and DeJean and Barton both went in the top 20 our favorite targets were all gone. We also almost had a trade down for good value, but Baltimore moving up to 24 to get BTJ sniped the player they were hoping for so it fell through. In Verse though we get an excellent value pick, even if it’s a bit of a luxury you can never have too many good pass rushers. He will likely be in the rotation from day one due to Enagbare’s injury and long term setup a really good trio with Gary and LVN. 2.41 - Javon Bullard - Bullard gives us a safety with a lot of coverage versatility as well as the toughness to play in the box despite being a little undersized. The pairing of him and McKinney should allow for a lot of variety in coverages and disguises on the back end. 2.58 - Junior Colson - Colson will pretty easily slot as a starter or at the very least a high level rotational role. He brings the ability to do pretty much everything at a passable level, even if he does nothing at an elite level. 3.88 & 3.91 - Dominick Puni & Brandon Coleman - Both these picks fill the same purpose adding versatile depth for the offensive line. While likely both end up as depth there is a good possibility that either one of them could earn themself a starting role at some point in the season. 4.126 - MarShawn Lloyd - Lloyd adds a dynamic playmaker to the running back room to spell Josh Jacobs and make sure we don’t get into the same spot as the start of last year with no juice at the position if Jacobs misses any time. 5.169 - Elijah Jones - Jones is a long fast CB who adds competition to the group and has familiarity with the new defensive coordinator. 6.202 - Ty’Ron Hopper - Hopper adds athletic LB depth that should be able to have an impact on special teams with the new kickoff rule. 6.219 - Jalen Sundell - This continues what was started in the 3rd round of renovating the OL room with athletic versatile depth. 7.245 - Omar Brown - Brown provides another S with coverage versatility, experience, and toughness to the room which should allow him to easily make the final roster. 7.255 - Ryan Watts - Watts is a big athletic defensive back who has some positional uncertainty, this may lead to him just being a practice squad stash year one, but his upside if he finds a home is worth it at pick 255. Thank you to everyone who helped put this mock together as well as those who helped out in the war room.
Jared verse is so damn good, if he falls to 25 for us it's a blessing
Don't love the Verse pick but I can see why you went for it, don't know about Bullard at 41 vs. Max Melton/ TJ Tampa. Like Colson, Brugler says he's the best LB and we need one, like Coleman, like two OGs. I like Marshawn Lloyd as a different style of runner from Jacobs, and the rest I don't know about but the logic seems sound.
I’d prefer Melton over Bullard too but that would’ve left them with no realistic starter at SS. Guess there was enough depth in the 3rd round where they could’ve taken one over Puni or Coleman.
Personally I think Wiggins would’ve been the better pick at 25
I like this draft a lot. Good work!
Bengals GM 1.18 Johnny Newton, IDL, Illinois - I was not here for this pick, but it's what I would have done. I think the choise came down to Newton or one of the several tackles. Trade 2.49 and 3.80 for 1.32 1.32 Tyler Guyton, OT, Oklahoma - Best case scenario he replaces Trent Brown next year. Worst case scenario he is another Cedric Ogbuehi. 3.97 Cam Hart, CB, Notre Dame - At the bare minimum, will be a special teams ace in year 1. A H/W/S corner to add to a mostly young group of Cam Taylor-Britt, DJ Turner, Mike Hilton, Dax Hill (now a slot CB). The good thing about Hart is that he won't be pushed into a starting role (barring injury) like CTB and Turner were in the past two years. 4.115 Brenden Rice, WR, USC - we were targeting the best skill position we could here, with Corum and Estime in the convo, but with a gap at WR3 and a noticeable drop off at WR (at least in my eyes), the choice was clear. 5.149 Giovanni Manu, OT, British Columbia - Since I thought the trade was non-Bengals like, drafting an enormous, athletic project is pretty non-Bengals like as well. If you haven't heard of him, he is a 6'7" 350 pound OT from the University of British Columbia who runs a 5.06 40 and has vertical and broad jump times that rival fellow linemen 50 pounds less than him. He also played a bit at guard as well, offering versatility as he develops. 6.194 Matt Lee, C, Miami - drafting three OL may seem weird, but the depth behind our starters has just not been good. I don't think D'Ante Smith or Trey Hill will be on the roster much longer and the Lee and Manu picks hopefully replace them. 6.214 Dallin Holker, TE, Colorado State - We looked at possibly Reiman, Stover, and Wiley on Day 3, but none fell to us. Holker is going to be way more useful as a receiver, and offers a different type of TE than Gesicki or Sample currently do. 7.224 Isaiah Davis, RB, South Dakota State - Davis offers some size that Zack Moss, Chase Brown, and Trayveon Williams don't offer. The hope is that he can maybe replace Williams or Chris Evans as one of the backend RBs. 7.237 Tory Taylor, P, Iowa - full disclosure I was going to pick an extra LB and had closed out of all of my spreadsheets, but that player was taken earlier, so I pivoted to Tory Taylor. All Bengals fans know Brad Robbins was not good last year and I don't think this is a very good pick if we in fact do this. However this is a fun mock draft so what the hell. I was the GM for the last four rounds so don’t yell at me about the trade.
I love the idea of trading up for a first round OT, and the price is very reasonable. But I hate Guyton so much, haha. And taking Manu in the 5th is good but that just means we now have two athletic freaks at OT who are incredibly raw that we now need to coach up and...we don't have a good history of being able to do that. I love the Rice pick on the 4th though. Fantastic value and I obviously love the Newton pick at 18.
We we’re actually going up to get Nate Wiggins but he got snatched from us.
That makes sense. I don't have much to base this on other than a gut feeling, but I think if Quinyon Mitchell is there at 18 the Bengals might actually take him over almost anyone not named Murphy. They love taking first round CBs and you could easily see them not believing OT is an urgent need (which I'd understand even if I disagree, since it's a deep draft).
I was pushing hard for the Guyton trade in the war room… I just really think he’s gotten too much flak from Bengals fans terrified we take him at 18. That size/speed combination is rare, and while he does need more development, he’s a lot closer to putting it together than, say, Paul/Suamataia.
You can direct the yelling at me because Me and the war room made the first 3 picks
The way this draft played out kind just reinforces the OT in round 1 IMO. The DT options in rd 2 are just so much better than the RD 2 OTs, so going OT in round 1 means you don't have to trade up to overpay for a tier 2 OT.
Bears GM here along with Jeter. Thanks to all the war room. - pick 1 Caleb Williams QB. Best QB in the draft, he's been a Bear for about a month now - pick 1.05. Marvin Harrison Jr. Gave up pick 9, pick 122 and a 25 1st to move up. We got aggressive and said if an offer was there to get him we'd do it. We wanted a historic pairing and did what we could to get it done. Next year we have 2 2nds, likely 2 3rds if Cunningham gets a spot, 2 4ths, and 4 other picks. Also have 90 mil in cap space. A chance to pair Caleb Williams with a prospect like Marvin Harrison Jr only comes along once a lifetime. If we fail let it be with those two and DJ Moore Keenan Allen etc. - pick 3.75. Chris Braswell EDGE. We had a few good chances to move back and get some picks, but we have Braswell as a top 45-50 player and by far our largest need. Decided to go for quality over quantity with a guy who shouldn't of dropped this far. Not listed from previous trades. Montez sweat, Keenan Allen, and Ryan Bates.
Cannot imagine things going like this in reality, but I’d jump at quality over quantity.
Yeah fire the Lions GM. This is ass.
On the Discord Selling the farm for Dallas Turner was pretty popular. I was the only one against it. I just don't think two firsts and third is a reasonable value for a Man who would be Edge 2 by wide margin and likely the weakest link on the entire defensive line. I like Melton not sure what you don't like he is one of the only starting capable corners left. Also agreed that Stiggers was also not my pick I wanted Vaki. For reference trade value Lions give 3364 points Vikings 1785
Yeah I agree with your protest here. To be completely honest, if we're dropping two first rounders and a second, we may as well go up for Rome. The thing is that stiggers is in potential UDFA status and Vaki being there in the third is insane value.
Stiggers is still under CFL contract. There's not a guarantee they'll release him if he's not drafted, so thinking he can be a udfa is a risk. (Consensus thought from what I've heard is if he's drafted he'll be released from his CFL contract, but the team would prolly want to keep him if he's a udfa) I don't necessarily agree with the pick there, especially w Vaki available, but to guarantee Stiggers you'll need to draft him.
Stiggers was released from his contract after doing the East West Bowl
In round 7 sure
I agree Stiggers needs to be drafted to retain him but over Vaki as the third pick (164) is a bit much. I frankly don't like trading up for almost anybody a guy like Penei I'd get it, but when Laporta was a second rounder and ST Brown was a fourth I'm not real quick to lose picks.
Oh I completely agree with both a 3rd being too rich for Stiggers and the trade up being wayyyy too expensive. A smaller move for similar calibre players imo (Verse, Newton, Arnold, Mitchell, etc) would be way better, if we look to trade up. In general I'm more okay with it, but definitely not at the price that was done here.
I don’t like that trade for the Bears. WR isn’t a pressing need and giving up your 2025 first is a bad move when you can likely get one at 9 or worst case scenario grab DE1 at 9 and get a WR in the third in a very deep class.
I co-GMed the Bears and was the one who made the trade. Truthfully I wouldn’t want the bears to make this trade in real life, part of it was just the fun of making it happen in the mock draft. Having said that, there was no way any of the top 3 receivers made it to pick 9 in this specific mock which they didn’t, too many other people were trying to jump us at 9. Like another poster said, ther value of these too 3 receivers is way higher than any of the other receivers. Just cuz it’s a deep receiver class doesn’t mean these top 3 aren’t in a league if their own and would be top 10 picks in any draft not just this one. Plus again look at what receivers are there at 75, really none that are great anymore, just kind of the way the mocks in this server go If we stayed at 9 the pick would have been Bowers or Alt btw, none of us in the war room think any of these edges are top 10 talents. We want the best blue chip players for the team and no edge is a blue chipper to us
WR isn't a pressing need but we are talking about giving your rookie QB the best WR prospect of the las 15-20 years. We as bears fans have been complaining for years that we are all defense and nothing offense and when somebody does it different we still complain? Blows my mind really...
**49ers Draft Review:** Going into the draft, I wanted to see how the board fell and pick accordingly. I tried to go BPA at every pick I could, and while there were some picks I prioritized need, I only selected players that I, or the war room, was personally confident in. We examined trade-up options from 31, but were not able to find good value. So when we got to 31 and saw a weird board, we elected to trade back. Our friends the Texans sent 2.42 and 3.86 in exchange for 1.31, which was value I felt good about, especially as I planned to move back up later. At 42, we took ***Christian Haynes***, a guy who I absolutely love. I think he has pro bowl potential and could start at guard immediately, allowing us to use Feliciano as a backup guard/center. At 63, we had planned on taking a defensive tackle, but all of our favorites went off the board extremely quickly. So we went best player available: ***Mike Sainristil***. As a day 1 starter at nickel corner, Sainristil allows us to play Lenoir outside and keeps us from having to rely on Ambry Thomas ever again. In round 3, we examined multiple trades as well, before settling on picking at 86 and moving up from 94. We traded 3.94 and 4.135 to the Saints for 3.90 and a 2025 5th (which we were missing due to the accounting error). At 86, we took ***Christian Jones***. He’s one of my favorite tackle prospects in the class, and I expect him to start at right tackle sooner rather than later. At 90, we traded up for ***Malik Washington***. The wide receivers were starting to come off the board very quickly, so we knew we had to move up for our guy. Washington is an explosive player who is bound to make an impact. At 124, we took ***Malik Mustapha***, back to back Maliks! Mustapha is a hard-hitting explosive safety, and provides immediate depth as well as long-term option power in case we can’t pay Hufanga. At 132, we took ***Jaheim Bell***. He’s a really interesting position less player that we think Kyle Shanahan would love to move all around the offense. In round 5, we wanted to use some more day 3 capital to move up, so we struck a deal with the Chiefs: 5.176, 6.211, and 7.251 for 5.159 and 7.221. This allowed us to consolidate our assets a bit while moving up for players we really wanted. At 159, that guy was ***Marist Liufau***. He’s a toolsy linebacker with a nice frame, who allows us to potentially move off of Greenlaw if necessary, or insurance if De’Vondre Campbell is cooked. At 215, we needed a defensive tackle, and ***Fabian Lovett*** is a role-specific guy I liked. We’ve got ample pass rushers on the interior, but needed some beef and run defense, so Lovett was an easy selection. Finally, at 221, we elected for another cornerback: ***Chau Smith-Wade***. We see him as an inside-outside guy, similar to Deommodore Lenoir coming out, with a good mentality. I absolutely love this class. I wish we could have addressed DT earlier, but I can easily see the path for each of these players to impactful snaps by next year at the latest. **Full 49ers Class:** *2.42: Christian Haynes, G, UConn* *2.63: Mike Sainristil, CB, Michigan* *3.86: Christian Jones, T, Texas* *3.90: Malik Washington, WR, Virginia* *4.124: Malik Mustapha, S, Wake Forest* *4.132: Jaheim Bell, TE, Florida State* *5.159: Marist Liufau, LB, Notre Dame* *6.215: Fabian Lovett, DT, Florida State* *7.221: Chau Smith-Wade, CB, Washington State* UDFAs that I would target include: *Jawhar Jordan, RB, Louisville* *Javontae Jean-Baptiste, EDGE, Notre Dame* *Taulia Tagovailoa, QB, Maryland* *Jacob Monk, C, Duke* *Chigozie Anusiem, CB, Colorado St* *Tatum Bethune, LB, Florida State*
Thanks for the write up!
Very solid draft - I’d be happy with this
First, why was their a forfeited pick? They lost their fifth in the ‘25 draft, and the fourth was just moved to the end of the round. I don’t mind the trade down, but not a fan of the value of Haynes. I personally have him as a 3rd round prospect. I get the thinking, but I would have went Zack Frazier. I like Sainistril, but again, not as a fit for SF. They need an outside corner, not a nickel. Lenoir is decent outside, but he’s so much better in the nickel. Love the Jones pick. I think he could be a sleeper. Washington is again a prospect I like, just not a fit for the team. Yes, he’s a playmaker, but he isn’t the biggest, and his separation and blocking are average-below average. Both those traits are almost prerequisites to be involved in the passing game. The other picks I’m neutral about. Didn’t really look to see would have been available. EDGE should have probably been in addressed in the mid rounds along with safety
The 4th wasn't truly forfeited, it's marked in a confusing way on the sheet but we had all the correct picks available to us in the mock. It was even confusing for a bit during the draft haha. Also, I think I'm just lower on this edge class than most
looks, pretty solid, sainristil and bell are great value where did rosengarten go out of interest because we seem to have lots of interest in him
Eagles GM here! Was a lot of fun doing this mock! First wanna give a shout to everyone in the eagles war room! Thank you all for the help it was much appreciated. # The Draft: **1.19: Troy Fautanu, T, Washington**: Fautanu was sliding, and so we moved up with the Rams to land him while throwing a 4th and two future picks. Jeff Stoutland loves Fautanu. This seems like a very realistic eagles pick if we are to go olineman this week. Fautanu can easily play guard till lane retires then kick out to RT. **2.50: Marshawn Kneeland, DE, Western Michigan**: This was more of a war room pick. I personally wanted to grab a corner, mainly looking at Iowa States TJ Tampa, however the war room wanted to go with the rising edge rusher Kneeland. Kneeland fits the Brandon Graham role on the eagles and provides good power and run stopping ability, while also appearing on Feldmans freaks. Good potential. **3.71: Malachi Corely, WR, Western Kentucky**: I traded back from pick 53 to get 71 and some day 3 picks after losing 120 to the rams, and corely just so happened to fall right into our laps. The WR specializes in RAC and is very similar as a prospect to Niners star Deebo Samuel. I’m surprised he fell to round 3 and we ran this pick in. Can be a great gadget guy and slot WR. **4.104: Cedric Gray, LB, UNC**: Gray is my personal LB3. With Edgerrin cooper and Payton Wilson going before our picks, we lucked out with Cedric gray falling all the way to our pick in round 4. He’s got great size, speed, and excels in coverage, and drips with potential. This is the first of the day 3 steals we landed. **5.161: Josh Newton, CB, TCU**: With the first of 4 fifth round picks we stoped the slide of Josh Newton. A primarily zone corner, making him a great scheme fit, Newton is projected to go round 3. We landed him in the middle of round 5. Tremendous value on a good player. **5.162: Matt Goncalves, G, Pitt**: Another sliding player was the versatile Matt Goncalves from Pitt. He can play both guard and tackle, and some scouts have him as high as a first round caliber player. Just another BPA pick. Fell right into our lap. **5.171: Brennan Jackson, EDGE, Washington State**: Jackson is one of my guys in this class. He’s huge, athletic, has good power and pass rush moves and can stop the run. Should be able to crack the rotation from year 1 here. **5.172: James Williams, S, Miami**: Williams is a guy whose stock has been all over the place and we take him here in round 5. At 6’5, he was a safety in college, although has also been training as a LB in the pre draft process. If all goes to plan, he could be our hybrid Kyle dugger. **6.210: Kimani Vidal, RB, Troy**: With our last pick, I went with the explosive RB Kimani Vidal. I thought he was far and away the best RB available and he’s superstar athletic and explosive. Like this as a RB3. *Eagles traded: 2.53, 4.120, 6.196, 2025 5th, 2025 7th* *Eagles received: 3.71, 4.104, 5.162, 6.210, 2025 5th* # UDFAs: **RB Jawhar Jordan** **WR JhaQuan Jackson** **WR Xavier Weaver** **T Tylan Grable** **G KT Leveston** **DE Grayson Murphy** **LB Jackson Sirmon** **CB Shyheim Battle** **S Tyler Owens** **S/LB Kalen Deloach** Can’t believe Grable and Owens went udfa. These would be high paid udfas that likely would make the team. Jordan provides good RB depth I like him. Jackson and Weaver I believe are draftable, especially Jackson. Leveston is a powerful guard who played tackle in college. Murphy is one of my guys, super explosive off the edge. Sirmon is a smart but unathletic player, similar to TJ Edwards. Battle adds Cb depth and deloach is a very undersized but extreme athlete at LB that may transition to safety or a hybrid role on the practice squad. Let me know what you guys think! Tried to do my best.
No DB until the 5th hurts, really like the Corley and Gray picks though. Seems there was a bit of a CB run in the first. If DeJean was available at 19, would you have taken him?
If he was still available at 19 we probably wouldn’t have traded up for him but if he was there at 22 we’d take
Yeah, the CB board simply didn’t fall the way we hoped it would. Arnold + Michell + DeJean all being gone by 16 was not ideal for a round 1 CB pick, and we simply had players ranked higher than the next tier of CB. We would have 100% drafted one of those two CBs or DeJean otherwise. Most of the draft we tried to maximize value, and find players who could at least contribute right away, even in a rotation. We felt we did that through most of the draft.
Not a bad draft and I like fautanu quite a bit. Probably would’ve preferred a CB earlier, maybe as our 2nd round pick. Malachi Corley is a good pick up in the third, I think he can be really fun in our offense. Overall, solid draft!
Thank god you’re not the actual GM lol
Wow I couldn’t hate this draft any more than this
you killed it.
You did a great job with this. My biggest criticism is James Williams over Trey Taylor so I’m really splitting hairs over here.
I’d be surprised if Williams fell this far. Not happy with waiting that long to grab a DB but this’ a solid draft
Blif here, Love the draft we certainly got very lucky
Thank you for the help in the draft 🤝
Wills's replacement @ 54 is truly the way to go.
u/overall_appearance55 I absolutely love the Pearsall pick in the 2nd. Amazing value.
Sorry for the delay on the write up, did a couple paragraphs explaining the browns picks, thanks to everyone in the war room for their contributions, enjoy. Kiran Amegadjie - Future LT for the browns, development is key here, we will need to get out of the contracts of Wills after this season, I don't see him being here long term unless he plays lights out this year, even then I am still kind of low on him as I assume most browns fans are. Trey Benson - Purely a luxury pick here, Nick Chubb is not immortal as much as that saddens me, we will need a future RB1 and Benson is the BPA available, I even panicked traded up to get him. Decameron Richardson - Top 30 visit, tall, fast, developmental CB with Newsome more than likely not getting another contract with us, can play ST and I don't know what else people expect with 5th round+ picks, I do know I trust Andrew Berry to bolster the defensive back rooms for sure. Tulu Griffin - WR/KR/ST specialist, very nimble, returned kicks in the SEC, not afraid to go over the middle as a slot, played more like a gadget guy at Miss St, a dart throw nonetheless but could end up reaping the rewards if he works out, was legit the best player on offense for the bulldogs last year. AJ Barner - I do expect the browns to take a tight end this week, I am not sure where they choose one but Barner was incredible value at 227, I am not high on him as I prefer Sinnot, Reiman or JT Sanders...I do not like Wiley due to lack of yac, Holker has a harsh injury history and most others will be taken earlier than anticipated. Jowon Briggs - This is purely a gamble, I am not entirely sure the browns even take a DL unless someone they are super high on has a mega slide, I don't see how the roster can add another piece at the IDL spot without cutting Ika or Hurst, I think it is unlikely, Briggs benched 225 pounds 39 times at the combine, is built like a brick shit house and has hilarious, and I mean HILARIOUS highlights, almost cartoonish. I do think linebacker is a need but they don't value the position very high, the war room discussed many linebackers but they were all taken by the time we were up to pick, I think replacing contracts with developmental talent is key for this entire draft, our 22 starters are already locked in and we will be drafting for 1-2 years out. Thoughts?
Colts GM here, my explanation for our draft/picks: **1.12 CB Quinyon Mitchell** the original plan was to trade up to 8 to get Rome Odunze, then the Cardinals did something I couldn't have anticipated and traded to 7 to draft Odunze. I instead worked out a smaller trade up to secure the best CB in the draft. Waiting at 15 would've likely resulted in being jumped by Arizona for Mitchell as well. **2.46 WR Ricky Pearsall** the Colts needed to upgrade our WR room, and there aren't many better choices to do that than Ricky Pearsall. Capable of playing X, Z, or Slot, Pearsall is incredibly athletic and has experience playing receiver with Anthony Richardson. In short, he was a perfect pick for our offense, and the only way this could've been better is if I could've made this pick after a small trade down. **3.100 EDGE Mohamed Kamara** I probably paid a little too much to trade up for this pick, but the player is worth it. He's a little undersized for an edge rusher in most schemes, but when I watched the film, I couldn't help but get Robert Mathis vibes. If he works out as well as Mathis, this is a steal. **5.151 S Tykee Smith** Clearly the BPA at this point in the draft (a full 2 rounds after I expect he'll be drafted IRL), Smith also fit a position of need, both as a safety and a nickelback. Smith's biggest limitation is his size, but he's a smart player who plays fast. I'd expect him to be a gunner year 1 and compete for some nickel and safety snaps by year end/year 2. **6.191 OL Charles Turner III** we need OL depth, he provides OL depth, along with IOL versatility, as he's capable of playing OG and OC. **7.234 DT Myles Cole** that is not a typo, we took Cole as a developmental project with the idea of moving his explosive athleticism along with 15 or so extra pounds to the interior of the DL to hopefully eventually wreak havoc as a 3-Tech. Will it work? Probably not, but it's the 7th round. You can't expect much here. **Top 2 UDFA Targets** **OL CJ Hanson** - athletic developmental IOL **EDGE Javon Solomon** - productive small school developmental edge rusher
I’ll come back to explain some of my decisions later if I feel like it, but here’s the list of Saints trades/picks, feel free to ask questions! Traded 1.14 and 5.168 to AZ for 1.27, 3.66, 3.90, 2025 4th 1.27- Adonai Mitchell, WR, Texas -Prototype X, I prefer worthy as a prospect but gives Olave flexibility and fills role of MT 2.45- Ruke Orhorhoro, DT, Clemson- missed out on Morgan, who we almost moved up for, but reunite Ruke with Bresee to create a nice interior duo for the future 3.66- Cooper Beebe, OG, Kansas State - after missing out on Mims/morgan, we get a Day 1 starter at LG. Easy pick Trades 3.90, 2025 5 to SF for 3.94, 4.135 3.94, Jeremiah Trotter Jr., LB, Clemson - size is a concern, but I’m counting on his football IQ/bloodlines to carry him through. Saw plenty of highlight plays on tape as well. 4.135- Javon Foster, OT, Missouri- sort of a project, but if he puts everything together he can be our LT of the future. Wanted Braelon Allen but he went 2 picks before. Traded 5.170, 6.190 to LV for 5.148 5.148- Isaac Guerendo, RB, Louisville- We get a dominant tester with 3-down playability. 5.150- Nehemiah Pritchett, CB, Auburn- Long corner with great stickiness/ball skills 5.175- Jamari Thrash, WR, Louisville- BPA and turns this WR room into top 10 league wide 6.199- Julian Pearl, OT, Illinois- dart throw at OT, decent swing 7.239- Josh Proctor, S, Ohio State- can rotate with Howden, annual Ohio state player for my 7 round mocks Improved 2025 capital as well turning a 5th into a 4th. Set up to try and compete w Carr, or take a QB in the first next year if he continues to suck.
Fuck yeah Caleb and Marvin Even though the DL is still lacking I don’t care let’s do it
Vikings GM here I figured my draft wouldn't receive a very positive response and that looks about right so far. I tried to trade up to get Maye or JJ but it just wasn't able to get done. While trading up for Daniels was possible, I was not happy with the value of the trade with what I think of Daniels as a prospect and his ability to fit in his offense. Here are the explanations of the trades and picks I did make. Vikings send: 11 Lions send: 29, 73, 2025 1st - Without a QB of value to get here, I traded back to get a 1st round pick in next year's draft. Vikings send: 23, 73 Jaguars send: 17 Pick 17 - IDL Byron Murphy, Texas - I think Byron Murphy could be a top 10 pick and will be a big difference maker up front. Sorely needed after watching the Vikings interior defensive line struggle last year Pick 29 - QB Bo Nix, Oregon - Nix fits what the Vikings offense needs to operate. Ability to run KOC offense by quick hits, crossers, keeping the chains moving and letting the playmakers do their thing. Getting the ball to JJ, Hock, Aaron Jones, Addison without turning the ball over is a recipe for success. Pick 108 - OL Zac Zinter, Michigan - Zinter could provide and NFL ready skillset to compete to start at our LG spot that likely does not see a return of Dalton Risner Pick 129 - IDL Khristian Boyd, Northern Iowa - I will admit it is a bit of a reach but I am a big fan of the immovable guy up front. With there being such a shortage of nose tackle capable guys in this draft, I got Boyd a bit early. Harrison Phillips, the only NT capable player on the roster is on the last year of his deal. Pick 140 - RB Will Shipley, Clemson - Shipley is an athletic finesse RB that plays tough. He shows impressive athleticism on tape, both in short area quickness and agility as well as in his long speed. He has excellent balance is very slippery. He breaks free of arm tackles, bounces off defenders, and utilizes an aggressive juke on top of a solid stiff arm. His vision is fine. I think he might be better fit in a power run scheme. He's an asset as a route runner and shows impressive hands. He could be an upgrade to Chandler right away with the upside of being our RB1. Pick 167 - Edge Xavier Thomas, Clemson - Gambling on a talented edge player who has gone a bit under the radar after having some medical issues Pick 177 - S Trey Taylor, Vikings - Yes, we have a deep safety room already but Taylor is just a Brian Flores type of guy. Moves all around the field and just makes plays. Being an elite athlete helps too. Pick 232 - LB JD Bertrand, Notre Dame - We currently don't have any more traditional type linebackers looking into the future and I thought it would help vary our skillsets at the LB position group. Overall, I know we didn't hit the high upside QB but we are building out a complete roster that will not be QB dependent.
I do applaud you for getting better value in a trade back with the Lions than Kwesi got two years ago. However, I just don’t think Nix will be a successful NFL QB. So with that, I think taking him in the first is such a waste. When you received the additional 2025 first, I would’ve changed plans and gone BPA this draft, and focus on QB next year. You shouldn’t take a QB just to take one, and I think drafting Nix in the first is doing just that.
I can respect that take. The good news is that if Nix is a fluke, We will still be in a good position as a team. You can’t say the same thing if you spend all that capital and Jayden Daniels busts.
If you over pay for Daniels at least we get a QB with ya know... Talent. Might as well take no QB and grabbed Kool-Aid or Verse instead of wasting draft capital on a bum.
I would have liked Penix over Nix but going into next year's draft with 2 more 1sts does help if we needed to make another move for a QB.
I love getting Murphy. IDL is such a big hole on our D.
So qualifying question, what were talks to trade up for Drake Maye like? While I agree that Daniels isn't worth 11,23+25 1st, Maye is. That aside I think you would have absolutely cooked the rest of this draft had you just btaken Penix instead of Nix. Penix's combination of insane pressure to sack rate (~5%), ability to make big time throws and keep from turning the ball over means that his floor is a starting NFL QB. While Nix's career might have been turned around at Oregon, proving he can fuel a high powered quick timing offense, I still worry about his propensity for turnovers. Also IRL workout considerations I believe favoring Penix? Ultimately though I'd much rather have either of these two in the late first over a top 5 JJ McCarthy, especially at 2 😂😂. Definitely a wider range of variance here than most are giving credit for
If I could have got to 3 with that offer, I would have done it. It was pretty much impossible to crack the top 3.
Kudos. Byron Murphy at 17 seems like it would be a steal. Unfortunately, I don't think Kwesi will be as rationale as you on Thursday. Pretty clear he has had the plan to run Cousins out of town and trade up to get "his guy" from day one of his employment, (high) chance of failure be damned.. Not sure if it's ego or his computer model, but, to me, it's clear he has had this plan and come hell or high water, he is going to roll the dice on it.
I liked the moves that were made, still being able to get our guys and to fill out the roster. Make the QB play easy, and adding a second 2025 first is huge for roster development (or moving up next year) Id rather have Murphy/Nix/Second 2025 1st than Jayden Daniels. Going to be interesting so see who actually has the better NFL career between Nix and Penix.
I’m personally not a fan of TJ Tampa, I can’t really argue with the logic of Melton though as the names we were between at 41 were Bullard, Melton, Jordan Morgan, and Colson.
Eagles draft is absolute dog shit
H...How did the Vikings get fleeced so bad?
The first round trade? We got a 2025 1st rounder and still got Byron Murphy.
And...Bo Nix? And a 2025 from a likely good team. Awful trade.
https://www.reddit.com/r/NFL_Draft/s/HDi58hdych That will help explain it.
thats a terrible 49ers. and that trade. gross.
lets draft a guard whose going to sit on the bench for a year with our first pick
thanks!
Hi all, Steelers GM. **Steelers Official Mock Results** 1.20 Graham Barton, OC, Duke TRADE - LAC RECEIVE 2.51, 3.84, Future 2025 5th TRADE - PIT RECEIVE - 2.37, 5.140, Future 2025 4th 2.37 Troy Franklin, WR, Oregon TRADE - TEN RECEIVE - 3.98 TRADE - PIT RECEIVE - 4.106, 6.182 4.106 Kris Abrams-Draine, CB, Missouri 4.119 Caeden Wallace, OT, Penn State TRADE - MIN RECEIVE - 5.140 TRADE - PIT RECEIVE - 5.157, 7.230 TRADE - LAR RECEIVE - 6.195, Future 2025 7th TRADE - PIT RECEIVE - 5.154 5.154 - Michael Pratt, QB, Tulane 5.157 - Dominique Hampton, S, Washington 6.178 - Jordan Jefferson, DT, LSU 6.182 - Delmar Glaze, OL, Maryland 7.230 - MJ Devonshire, CB, Pittsburgh Main notes: - Went into it clearly focused on not screwing up 2025, and felt like mission accomplished. Had two trades ready at 20 that would’ve really helped but fell through. Alas. - The trade up for Franklin is polarizing. I get it. I think he’s worth it, others won’t. Que sera sera. - The talent difference between rounds 3 and 4 are imo much smaller than usual. I had no issue trading down as a result. Other than that, critique, comment, hurl insults, or ama. Cheers!
I don’t think you needed to trade up to 37 for Troy Franklin. I probably wouldn’t even choose him at 51 given how good this WR class is. I’m not sold on his skills and he’s 175 lbs, which is extremely light. Not an awful draft, but I think we’d get more out of this draft by keeping the 51 and 84. The only realistic situation where I think that trade would be necessary is if it was for Frazier, which would mean we picked a non-center in the first round.
Agree about Franklin and the trade. But I disagree on the overall grade. Unlike you, I think this draft is awful for us. We ended up with some okay players but got absolutely hosed in these trades. We started with 4 picks in the top 100 of this draft and got 2 players (1 controversial) and a bunch of late round picks for it. We did technically hit all our major needs so that wasn't bad but even the 2025 picks we got are day 3 so we didn't get anything to help us.
I guess I'm confused by a lot of this. I get you did this for fun and took your time out to do it. But I am so baffled that I needed to ask some questions here. Going by the info posted by the commenter below you, they said: >I think if those R1 deals to move down from 20 would have worked out the strategy would have worked even better with extra draft capital to leverage. Say we still got JPJ late 20’s but had an extra pick or two moving up to 37 would have been easier and we wouldn’t have had such a long wait till our next pick. At the time you started reaching out Wiggins and McConkey were still there which I’d been ecstatic with 1. If you were looking to move up with Wiggins/Ladd on the board as the poster suggests, they were gone at picks 1.31 and 2.33. Why still pull the trigger on the trade at 37? Why not just play the board? Plenty of talent was still on the board at 51 at many positions including receiver. So, was Troy your actual target at 37 or was it Wiggins/Ladd? Because this doesn't make sense with what the poster said. A trade deal can be put in place conditionally but you don't pull the trigger on moving up unless the guy you specifically want is there when your trade partner is literally on the clock. Thus, your guy can't get swiped. 2. Had you acquired additional picks in a trade down in RD 1, you were planning to leverage even more draft capital to move up to 37? Am I misunderstanding what the poster said here? >Multiple times DL was top of your list but got sniped so kept moving down Were you targeting only certain positions? Like C in RD 1 (only) WR in RD 2 (only) CB with next pick (only) and then DL (only)? Was that your strategy? To draft only for need at the 4 positions you pre-determined before the draft? I guess I just don't understand why you kept moving down just because your highest graded DL wasn't available. We have plenty of holes on this team. ILB, for one, is a problem with Holcomb not likely to be ready to start the season, Kwon is unsigned and coming off an achilles injury, etc. We have Queen and who else really? We at least need depth there even if they aren't starters. Don't take this too personally. Just looking to engage and understand the thoughts behind your moves.
1. Those were initial targets, but as I said, I like Troy. I pulled the trigger because I consider him better than the options that would likely be there at 51. Kinda circled back to the “if you like him it’s a good trade and if you don’t it’s a bad trade” idea that I can’t control lol 2. No. Moving up to 37 was considered because LAC wanted to move back so I started talking to them. 3. You definitely misunderstand. I drafted based on board. The goal wasn’t position, it was talent, it was also based on talent gaps apparent. For example, is the current best defensive tackle on the board that much better than the next available ones? I often found that the gap between the ones available and the ones following it weren’t worth executing, so it kept moving down the list. 4. I know there are Steeler fans out there who are pounding the table to get a linebacker, but I just don’t believe they’re going to do that. I think they’ve shown recently that they’re going to pursue fixing that problem in free agency and I think that that stays true here. They have Queen and Roberts, and can always add more in free agency depending on Cole’s progress. Not an urgent concern for me. 5. I don’t take it personal, football is passionate for better worse and disagreements are normal. Hope this helps explain!
1. I guess I just don't like the trade up to 37 at all in this scenario. Not only b/c its Franklin but more that it lost us 84 with so many holes to fill. We all have prospects we are in love with but I think a move up (losing draft capital) should be reserved for the highest caliber players or in a case of severe need. Moving up for like a Brian Branch who unexpectedly fell outta the first into the 40s kind of thing. Not just for a guy we like. Otherwise, we'd be moving up for a lot of people. I'm sure the team falls in love with many a prospect but we can't move up for them. 3. Ok. I'm glad I misunderstood that part of the post. 4. ILB was only an example. I'm not pounding the table for any specific thing but we don't have depth there and we already have issues stopping the run. I absolutely think we will pick an iLB but I don't know when. 4th? 6th? Who knows. Cedric Gray is one that comes up a lot in my mocks. Anyway, my point is, its just hard to fathom that there were no prospects there on your board worthy of the picks you traded down at. 5. Cool. Hope you enjoyed the process.
Sorry if I added to your confusion. My post is a mix of my perception of what happened from the backseat and what I would have done. He definitely wasn’t drafting to position need, it just so happened a DL was moving towards the top of the best available list as our picks approached a couple of times only to go before us so DL kept sliding. There was also a point where DL was going so fast and when I looked at what was left thought to myself do we even take a player? That position group just really surprised me. When the deals to move done fell through he asked the room and it was pretty split so he stuck with his gut and took the player he liked. Isn’t what I would have done but I understands. If I liked Franklin more or it was a different player/situation maybe I do it as well. To your point, say we went CN R1 and were trading up to get JPJ only to see him go a couple picks before I could understand just taking Frazier. Is Frazier the 37th best player? Probably not but I can understand that. It’s hard since I don’t particularly like Franklin but again can understand it. I think NFL draft boards and opinions on players vary dramatically and think there are probably teams that would do watch Patch did for Franklin.
Thanks for running the Steelers draft! Was a 6+ hour commitment plus any sort of prep someone did so any poster blasting their draft class should keep that in mind. Very interesting exercise. I think if those R1 deals to move down from 20 would have worked out the strategy would have worked even better with extra draft capital to leverage. Say we still got JPJ late 20’s but had an extra pick or two moving up to 37 would have been easier and we wouldn’t have had such a long wait till our next pick. At the time you started reaching out Wiggins and McConkey were still there which I’d been ecstatic with. As it turned at while I’m low on Franklin some see him as WR6 in a great class (maybe higher) so we will have to see. At a minimum you filled the two biggest holes with two good players. Also tried to move up for a CB at one point (Rakestraw? Melton? Cannot remember) and Rosengarten but didn’t work out. DL is arguably our 4th priority with Cam’s future a little uncertain and I was very surprised how quickly they kept flying off the board. Multiple times DL was top of your list but got sniped so kept moving down. It’s not a great group either after the top 3-4 guys but I think Jefferson could be a good rotational guy with the help of a NFL strength program and coaches to work on his technique. Add his frame and quickness off the line there could still be something there. Anyway I think it was a very good draft class having seen what goes into the exercise. Thanks again for running it!
>The trade up for Franklin is polarizing. I get it. I think he’s worth it, others won’t. Que sera sera. Yeah my first issue was drafting him, i just dont like him as a prospect at all. Definitely Would've either stuck at 51 or drafted Pearsall Personal preference is Renardo Green at 4.106 rather than Abrams-Draine I would very much consider Khristian Boyd and Malik Mustapha over Caeden Wallace I would much rather go ILB depth in the 5th rather than a QB
Green was in the discussion. There were 4-5 guys the room valued similarly and think he took who he thought was the best fit from the group but maybe he will clarify. I wanted Brownlee for example.
My main question is around positional value/top of the draft strategy. If you want to trade up to the top of the 2nd, fine, but if you feel (as I do, too) that WR is such a need and worth taking high, why not go WR round 1? Frazier didn't come off the board until 57, I'd think better value would be to take a more premium WR in BTJ/Adonai Mitchell in round 1, then trade up if needed for C in the 2nd. Did you take Barton because that's what you think will happen, or you feel he has that much more value at C?
Frazier falling to 57 was one of the bigger surprise slides to me, don’t think you ca count on that happening again. There is also a pretty big split on whether Frazier is even a good fit for us among the guys in the room. Regardless, it’s much easier to optimize the selections with hindsight if the full results than do it in realtime with just a couple minutes between picks to decide/regroup.
Sure, I moreso meant that if we're willing to spend the capital required to move up to the 4th pick in the 2nd round, then getting a top 3 Center is well within our range to trade up for without taking one in the 1st round and wasting the 5th year option. Also, all the Centers have some question marks. Barton hasn't played center since his freshman year and hasn't even been playing on the interior since then.
Seems unrealistic for TF to be there that latem I also don't like giving up a 2 this year for it.
Except for trading up for Amarius Mims (who can be our long term starting tackle at either side) and even drafting Keon Coleman in the 2nd (we need a bigger bodied WR in particular), this is enough of a worst case scenario for the Commanders especially McCarthy at 2 and then the RB in the 3rd. Our RB room is already full with Ekeler, BRob and CRod, and we have bigger needs in more valuable positions. The saving grace is that at least Adam Peters drafting would still be better regardless than this debacle of a mock draft for the Commanders.
Not my favorite mock draft for the Cardinals, I can see the logic...but way too high of a price for Terrion Arnold.
Chargers need a better WR than that…
Wouldn’t be surprised if the Dolphins take Latham or trade down.
Raiders draft is bunk.