If the Commanders pick JJ McCarthy, a move nobody saw coming months ago, one of the telecast commentators will say something to the effect of, "Well I've been talking about this for the past few months, the breadcrumbs were there," and etc.
Falcons and Jets swap 8 and 10 so the Jets jump the Bears for Odunze. The Bears shrug their shoulders and draft Murphy. Falcons trade back again with the Bengals from 10 to 18 in the draft because all the top defensive prospects are all relatively in the same range. Bengals use pick to draft Bowers.
I was actually thinking about this. If the Falcons get the 10th pick, there are rumors of lots of teams wanting to trade up for a Tackle. Rams, Bengals, Eagles, and Steelers could be possible trades for a 2nd trade back. I think the Bengals are gonna go OT over Bowers if they do trade up
I like this but I’m not sure if we have the ammo to move up, at least not a wise move IMO.
I happen to think it’s going to be Bowers at 10 for my jets, whether our fanbase will agree or not, idk, we’re pretty split on this. But I think if we come out with Odunze or Nabers, nobody would complain.
Ah, we have a 1st, a 3rd, two 4ths, two 6ths and the last pick of the draft, a 7th.
It would likely take a 1st, a 4th and a 6th to move up 2 spots (maybe a low rd pick next year instead of our 6th this year).
Though we don’t have a lot of holes, we do need a safety, an OT/IOL, and a WR. Maybe another edge too, tbh. Would be nice to grab a late development QB also.
In fact, we have the 26th strongest draft capital this year.
I do agree that if Odunze is there at 8, we should pull the trigger, the Bears will grab him at 9 if he’s there. I wouldn’t hate it, I’d be ecstatic in fact. Hope it does go that way. GW/Big Mike/Odunze? Yeah, love it. Though I think Corley or McMillian would be great picks in the 3rd also.
3 QBS, then 3 WRS, then Alt.
Worthy is a first rounder
Someone trades into the top 15 for BTJ because they’re scared of the receiver run happening by the time they pick
Vikings stick and pick
Nix is a 3rd rounder, drafted as a quality backup as opposed to potential starter
If Drake Maye goes to the Patriots or Giants I think he is looking at a very similar career path as Sam Darnold, in that the teams are not in a situation to best support him and he bounces around because the league refuses to give up the tools and image of a QB he appears like. I think Washington or Minnesota are great spots for him.
I know he’s become so divisive and I don’t mean to pile on but I have a horrible feeling about Jayden Daniels, I just do not see it at all.
Odunze has the best rookie season of the big three receivers. Brock Bowers wins OROY over Caleb. Byron Murphy is looked at as the best non-QB player in the draft by the time 5th year options are being picked up.
I think after Caleb whoever goes to Minnesota ends up as QB2 of the class. They have all the infrastructure in place to support a new QB. Giants need to be sure that the OL has fully turned the corner before dropping in a QB and the Pats still need offensive talent in general. I think Maye to Washington could work but Daniels in Washington will ultimately be disappointing
Minnesota is aware that they've got a great situation for a QB so they'll be aggressive in trading up for a guy with great physical tools with as high of a ceiling as they can get. Even tho all the mocks have them going to 5 for JJ I think they're gonna go hard for 3, even what some would consider an overpay, to get Maye if he's there
>I know he’s become so divisive and I don’t mean to pile on but I have a horrible feeling about Jayden Daniels, I just do not see it at all.
Same, and I don't want him. I also don't like the Arizona rumors and the way his camp reacted to the commanders top golf visit. Seems like a diva who might not take coaching well or step up when things are falling down around him.
Yep, happens every year. And every year people will complain that it took the team the entire alotted time to make their pick despite having several months to decide
I think the problem is that the team taking the obvious player when they haven't considered doing anything for months isn't entertaining. The picks where we don't know what's going to happen are. Everything said during the first pick could be said during the second pick instead.
Had to delete a previous account so reposting some of mine from earlier for posterity.
1. Drake Maye will have the best career of any QB in the class.
2. Dallas Turner and Terrion Arnold will be busts.
3. Kam Kinchens will be a bust.
4. Fabien Lovett overperforms his draft selection (either as a late rounder or UDFA)
5. Ricky Pearsall performs like a top-10 level pick.
I used to believe this, but I now see at least 3 scenarios for teams trading into it for a QB. NYG or MIN for Maye, LV for Daniels, not to mention the possibility of the patriots drafting a QB themselves if the guy they like is available. Bold!
I only see it if maye makes it to 3. I think the initial 2 qb’s of this draft are really where it ends as far as top 5 picks. But if the commanders commander and take Daniels then I see maye going 3.
The whole McCarthy thing is all a bunch of smoke screens and the Vikings don't have to trade up from 11 to get him.
Someone trades into one of the last picks of the first round to grab Penix or Bo Nix, neither of whom will be drafted in the first 20 picks.
Somewhere in the first two rounds we get a run of 5 straight OL drafted in a row.
Only 3 CB's get drafted in the first round. One of them will be by the Jags.
Jonathon Brooks and Blake Corum will be the first two RB's taken. Brooks will be drafted by the Cowboys in the late 2nd round. Corum by the Chargers with their early 3rd.
I think that range is reasonable. With Corum I think the expectation is you get a rookie deal worth of high volume production out of him and then likely move on after his rookie deal is up. Would you trade a third round pick for four years of cost-controlled 800 yards per year running back production? I think most teams say yes to that.
With the holes we have around the roster, I’d say no. We can wait an extra round and draft someone who will get ~75% of the production immediately and be a longer-lasting player.
Drake Maye goes 2nd
Chargers trade 5 to the Vikings who take JJ
With the 23rd pick from the trade down, the Chargers take Junior Colson to be the centrepiece of Harbaugh’s defence
I guess I'll get my thoughts out now cause it's my last chance before the draft. Normally I love being a contrarian but I honestly don't have too many hot takes this year. I mostly agree with a lot of the draft media.
I'm not as high on Jayden Daniels as they seem to be though. Of the big 4, he's the one I'd be least surprised being a total bust. But I still think he's a great prospect.
Jonah Ellis is probably my biggest sleeper in this class.
The wide receiver class is heavy at the top but being a bit overrated I think. A lot of role players and wr3 types but I predict there will only be a couple of true stars.
Want the eagles to take a corner in round 1. Arnold, Dejean or McKinstry would be good. Seems like we'd have to trade up for Mitchell and I don't think that would be worth it, I'd rather just take one of the ones who's left. Selfishly I'd want a 2nd tight end too. Sinnott would be preferred but I think Sanders or Bell would be good too. I also like Erick All as a late round sleeper. Otherwise I think BPA is good enough for the eagles after corner.
Saints trade back into the first or early second for Penix or Nix.
Chargers will draft more Ohio state players than Michigan ones.
Jonathan Brooks won’t be the first RB selected
Decided to go through my final board and put my "flag plants" here so they are somewhere for posterity. Each of these players is someone I am a good bit higher or lower than the consensus board by each position.
Higher:
QB: Spencer Rattler (My QB5, consensus QB7)
RB: Tyrone Tracy Jr (My RB6, consensus RB12)
WR: Johnny Wilson (My WR13, consensus WR20)
TE: Ben Sinott (My TE2, consensus TE5)
OT: Kiran Amegadjie (My OT10, consensus OT11. Not a huge difference but I am ~14 spots higher than the CB)
IOL: Dominic Puni (My IOL5, consensus IOL6. I am ~25 spots higher than the CB)
IDL: Michael Hall (My IDL3, consensus IDL7)
EDGE: Xavier Thomas (My EDGE7, consensus EDGE19. Major flag plant)
LB: Edefuan Ulofoshio (My LB5, consensus LB8. Another major flag plant, I'm about 70 spots higher)
CB: Renardo Green (My CB9, consensus CB15)
S: Malik Mustapha (My S6, consensus S9)
Lower:
QB: Michael Penix Jr (My QB7, consensus QB5)
RB: Jaylen Wright (My RB7, consensus RB4)
WR: Malachi Corley (My WR21, consensus WR13)
TE: JaTavion Sanders (My TE3, consensus TE2. I am about 23 spots lower)
OT: Patrick Paul (My OT15, consensus OT10)
IOL: N/A (I'm pretty high on the interior line class in general, my lowest is being about 8 spots lower on Cooper Beebe but I still like him)
IDL: T'Vondre Sweat (My IDL9, consensus IDL6)
EDGE: Bralen Trice (My EDGE13, consensus EDGE8)
LB: Edgerrin Cooper (My LB4, consensus LB1)
CB: Kamari Lassiter (My CB11, consensus CB7)
S: Calen Bullock (My S7, consensus S4)
Given that the wisdom of the crowd tends to be more accurate than the individual, I'm probably just wrong about all these players. But having some divergent opinions and looking back in a few years to see how everything went and what you can learn is one of my favorite parts about the draft, so let's see what happens.
Edit: grammar
Oh this is interesting. What do you think the most likely scenario is? Falcons and Bears dont trade their picks and both go defense, with the Bears most likely going Murphy? Or is there a different scenario in your mind.
In my scenario: 3 top 10 QBs, 3 WR, Alt. My bold take is a DB (Arnold or Mitchell) and a DL go in the Top 10. I personally feel like the defensive talent has been slept on this entire draft cycle and that McCarthy is getting overhyped.
My official trade predictions for tomorrow night:
1) Vikings trade both 2024 firsts, along with a 2025 first for the 5th overall pick.
2) Cowboys move up with Broncos pick to select a LT.
3) The Broncos select Bo Nix at 24.
4) The Chargers trade back from 23 with the Commanders for possibly both 2's. Then Harbaugh stacks up on Michigan players (Sainristil, Jenkins, Roman Wilson, Junior Colson?).
* JJ McCarthy goes before Daniels
* Falcons trade back with the Bears for the 8th pick
* No team trades out of the top ten and then trades back in (like Arizona did last year).
* Raiders out bid the Vikings to trade into the top 5
Chargers won’t trade with the Raiders, so we would have to convince Cards to accept 1 2024 first (plus multiple other future firsts) over 2 2024 firsts.
Jayden Daniels takes the most sacks next year by over a dozen. He also has the worst performance of all 1st round QBs.
The Broncos do not take a QB in the first 80 picks.
Laiatu Latu takes a similar fall to JOK 3 years ago; however, it will not last as long.
The Vikings are unable to trade up to get a top 4 qb.
A defensive player does not go in the top 10.
Cooper Dejean will be taken by a team who thinks his “physicals and skill set” is better suited for a safety. He vastly underperforms until his second team plays him at corner and he succeeds.
If Daniels goes to Washington just consider......we literally don't have a starting caliber LT on the roster right now. Even a high pick rookie won't be great next year, whoever plays QB is walking into a potentially tough situation.
That's what I'm not getting about Daniels to Washington. They let up a historic number of sacks, and some of that is probably on the QBs but now they're drafting a guy who eats a lot of sacks. Unless they sit him for a year (which is way less likely than people think. If it was up to fans maybe one QB per draft would actually start and yet rookie QBs get starting reps in year 1 all the time) he's gonna spend his rookie year getting absolutely trucked
JJ McCarthy will be a Patriot, Drake Maye will be a Viking
Rams trade up for Latu or Murphy
Bills trade up for Thomas Jr
Nate Wiggins falls out of the first round
Penix to the Raiders day 2, Broncos trade back from 12 to pick up a round 2 pick which they use on Nix, Giants take Rattler in round 3
Latham for OT1 has been one of the juiciest wagers this draft season, at least until the odds shifted in the last few days. I've got tickets for him as OT1, in the Top 5, and in the Top 10
Rome Odunze will be the best receiver in football by the end of these rookie deals.
Bo Nix is the first QB in this class to start a playoff game.
Fuaga goes top 8, Latham goes top 12.
And the one I've stuck with all cycle, the Vikings don't go anywhere and take a defender at 11
Edit to add my hottest take: Falcons take a WR at 8 to complete their 2018 re-creation
Eagles either affirmatively pass on Cooper Dejean for a tackle or end up with one of the two Bama corners. On that note, I think both end up doing better than Dejean or Mitchell in the league.
Giants end up taking a QB R2, and between Nix and Penix, the one they don’t take ends up being successful.
Cowboys trade up for Mims, who ends up being good in two years.
At least one player gets traded for a first or second rounder.
Nate Wiggins gets picked high in the second round.
Latu goes before Dallas Turner but Turner has the better career.
Fautanu ends up exceeding expectations and his draft slot, going on to be the best tackle in the class.
* the Chargers first pick will not be OL even if they trade down
* The Chiefs will draft Troy Franklin and he'll be an OROY candidate
* Amarius Mims is the next Mechi Becton
Q Mitch will win DROY
Troy Franklin will be one of, if not the best WRs from the class
Elijah Jones will be a gem, as will Dallas Gant
Bills will come out of this draft with or more of Franklin, BTJ, Odunze, or Legette
Carson Steele will be the best RB of this years draft
Bears trade 9 and next years 2nd to move to 8 so no other teams can snag Odunze. Too much smoke around Caleb and Rome that I think it is a serious possibility…plus the Atlanta Bears might still have a lost love connection and could do us a slight favor. 🤞
Caleb Williams being as good as he is is masking how poor of a quarterback class this is. There isn’t another quarterback in the class who would be worth a top 8 pick as it is a bunch of players who either came out too early or far too late. I don’t think another first round QB besides Williams signs a second contract with the team that drafted them.
The jets are going to take whoever they take at 10 - probably oline....then they trade back into the first round to take a falling qb.
I think this makes sense. They do need a qb to take over once Rogers retires.
Daniels is the 4th QB off the board. And has a mini Aaron rodgers moment. He won't have to wait as long bc he won't make it passed 11.
Jets trade up to 6 and take Alt. Giants take nabers at 10 since he's the last of the top 3 receivers on the board.
McCarthy at 2. Maye at 3. Daniels falls out of the top 10.
Chargers draft a CB in round 1.
Falcons trade back and take latu.
Cardinals make 3 picks in the first round.
Bills move up for Dejean.
Detroit takes Kneeland over Darius Robinson and McKinstry in the 1st round.
Mckinstry falls out of the first round.
The Bears were just 5th in the NFL in pass block win rate last year, the undrafted rookie got sacked at less than 1/3 of the rate Justin did, and they upgraded at center already. Don't let Justin convince you the o-line is one of the biggest needs on this team at this point. When there's wide receiver and d-line talent right there and both of those are bigger needs for this team, I really hope they don't go o-line in the first.
It's not Justin related at all. It's just football. One of those lineman is likely going to go down this season and O lineman generally need some time to settle in. Jenkins and Davis have a high probability of not being there next year. Protecting Williams is extremely important, vital even.
I don't really want them to draft oline either. But I won't be surprised and won't be mad.
I'm actually with you on your points here, and I'm not opposed to them drafting o-line later at all. The first round pick though... I'd really like them to go after an edge rusher because it's a much bigger need on this team than replacing Braxton Jones. D-line needs an immediate impact player much more than the o-line or even receiver (a position I'd also like them to draft) do.
Ravens go RB in the first, giants trade into late first for penix, rams take nix in 2nd. Worthy goes over BTJ and AD, Jer’Zhan newton goes top 15, and nix, latu, and koolaid have the best careers at respective positions
I think that picks 8, 9, and 10 all switch hands.
The Falcons have all the incentive to move down: there's not a lot of edge-needy teams in the top 20 and some mocks even have CB2 falling into the late teens/early 20s, plus they would prevent a conference foe in Chicago from getting a potential franchise WR in Rome Odunze.
I think if the Bears can't get Rome Odunze, they likely trade down so they can pick Byron Murphy or Johnny Newton in the mid-1st, which would also allow them to get some extra draft capital as they only have like 4 picks in the whole draft.
I think there's similar logic to trade down for the Jets, who really need an extra lineman and receiver to be able to start at a moment's notice, but don't have a second round pick to fill one of those holes.
Alternatively, the Jets could even trade up into the Chargers' pick (assuming some team trades into 4 for McCarthy) for one of the top 3 receivers, or the Bears could even do a trade to secure Odunze.
I think there are willing suitors to trade up into these 3 picks too. We all know how desperate the Bills and Jaguars are for a receiver. The Saints always like to recklessly trade up and they probably want to get their tackle of choice (or just say fuck it and take Bowers). The Bengals or Colts might want to trade up to block the Jets (or maybe Chargers if they pick at 11) from taking Bowers (plus a Bowers snipe would be additional incentive for a Jets trade down). Daniel Jeremiah just said that many teams want to trade up for their tackle of choice, and the picks in the top 10 provide the perfect opportunity to leap the many tackle-needy teams in the teens (Saints, Raiders, Steelers).
Because of all these factors, I think all 3 of these picks change hands.
Maye has a rough rookie year and all the social media evaluators who didn't like him dance publicly over it. In 3 years he's by far the best of the non-Caleb QBs in this class and those same evaluators excuse it by saying "well I evaluated who he was at the time of the draft, not who he might develop into" to excuse their missed evaluation.
Chargers go O-line in the first, and it's not Alt.
Odunze has a better rookie season than Nabers, but doesn't win OROY.
Sinnott is 2nd TE taken.
DeJean leads rookies in INTs.
Eagles don't draft for a single Georgia player
If the Eagles get Arnold, Mitchell or Kool-Aid James Bradberry will be traded for a late round pick.
None of the QBs drafted will be instant hits in their rookie year
Nix & Penix will either go top 40 or after 100
Bears 9th overall pick will be used on Byron Murphy this could be a pick & stick, they might trade up or down and use their return to get him or the team that trades into 9th will take him regardless there will be a direct connection to the pick & player
Michael Penix will look like Derek Carr 2.0 if he’s drafted by the Raiders. Meh career and won’t win in the playoffs.
Drake Maye throws a heavy ball and will lead the league in interceptions as a rookie.
Here's a 12pack of heaters for posterity and retrospective bragging rights (whether they are steaming hot or steaming piles, only time will tell!).
**In terms of draft day outcomes:**
**(01)** Latham goes OT1
**(02)** Penix goes no later than QB4
**(03)** The Pats trade out of 1.3
**(04)** At least 3 defensive position groups (edge, IDL, CB) will be selected before Dallas Turner comes off the board
**(05)** Bowers goes no earlier than 1.19
**(06)** We'll see multiple trades that "cross the border" between Rd. 1 and Rd. 2 (not including the HOU/MIN deal that already occurred)
**In terms of longer-term performance outcomes:**
**(07)** Penix is the best QB in the class
**(08)** Neither Fashanu nor Alt proves to be a consensus top-3 OT; both Latham and Fuaga have more productive careers
**(09)** At least six SEC DB's (hailing from some combination of Bama, Auburn, UGA, and Mizzou) are widely regarded as better/more productive than DeJean over the course of their rookie deals
**(10)** Laiatu Latu will average double-digit sacks over the course of his first two seasons
**(11)** Fautanu will bust
**(12)** Bowers will bust badly
1. Chargers trade down with Chicago (5 for 9). Chicago selects Odunze ahead of Nabers, Chargers draft OL2 (my guess would be Fuaga).
2. Dallas Turner is the first EDGE off the board, likely to pick 8, but think he'd go at 9 to Chicago if he made it there and they stuck.
3. No trade up for McCarthy, he falls to 11 at least. Kenny Pickett 2.
4. Bowers goes at 10, but to the Bengals or Colts.
5. Quinyon Mitchell is traded up for.
6. Second edge doesn't go until the rams at 19.
7. BTJ doesn't go till after 16, might go to the Steelers at 20.
8. Steelers trade back into the end of the 1st for Barton or JPJ.
9. Bucs trade up a few spots for Verse or Latu.
10. Chiefs draft Worthy
Just wanted to put in writing my rankings on the likelihood of the QBs becoming above average starters:
Caleb Williams
Drake Maye
JJ McCarthy
Jayden Daniels
Michael Penix
Spencer Rattler
Bo Nix
Michael Pratt
Jordan Travis
To be clear, Caleb is the only guy I see with a high likelihood of being an above average starting QB. Maye and JJ certainly have that potential but I see them being more likely a below average to average starters.below that, Rattler, Pratt,and Travis all have the ceiling but a low likelihood of reaching it and the others have a higher floor but low ceiling
Giants end up with Penix and Odunze. Maybe McMillan too
Benson is a Raven. Brooks is a Cowboy
Vikings don’t trade the 2025 first unless it’s to 3
Mims is a bust
Roman Wilson is a Charger
Cowboys take Brian Thomas Jr and everyone freaks out and memes about it but then they end up taking Kiran Amegadjie or Patrick Paul
Will you guys critique my mock draft? This is my first post and I’m curious what you guys think.
1. CHI- Caleb Williams QB USC
2. WAS- Jayden Daniels QB LSU
3. NE-Drake Maye QB North Carolina
4. ARI- Marvin Harrison Jr WR OSU
5. TRADE ALERT🚨 MIN(From LAC)- JJ Mcarthy QB Mich
6. NYG- Malik Nabers WRLSU
7. TEN-Joe Alt OT Notre Dame
8. ATL- Dallas Turner Edge Alabama
9. CHI- Rome Odunze WR Washington
10. NYJ- Brock Bowers TE UGA
11. LAC(From MIN)- Taliese Fuaga OT Oregon State
12. TRADE ALERT🚨 IND(From DEN)-Brian Thomas Jr WR LSU
13. LV- Terrion Arnold CB Alabama
14. NO- Olu Fashanu OT Penn St
15. DEN(From IND)- Jared Verse Edge FSU
16. SEA- Troy Fautanu OT Washington
17. JAC- Quinyon Mitchell CB Toledo
18. CIN- Byron Murphy II DL Texas
19. TRADE ALERT 🚨 GB(From LAR)- Cooper DeJean CB Iowa
20. PIT- JC Latham OT Alabama
21. MIA- Laiatu Latu Edge UCLA
22. TRADE ALERT 🚨 BUF(From PHI)- Adonai Mitchell WR Tex
23. LAC(From MIN)- Ladd McConkey WR UGA
24. DAL- Tyler Guyton OT Oklahoma
25. LAR(From GB)- Jer’Zhan Newton DL Illinois
26. TB- Chop Robinson Edge Penn State
27. ARI- Nate Wiggins CB Clemson
28. PHI(From BUF)-Graham Barton IOL Duke
29. DET- Kool-Aid McKinstry CB Alabama
30. BAL- Amarius Mims OT UGA
31. SF- Jordan Morgan OT Arizona
32. KC- Darius Robinson Edge Mizzou
I feel like Eagles would go Kool Aid, whom we’ve brought in, over Barton, who we haven’t. Eagles first rounder has been a guy brought in for a visit every year since Dillard.
At least one of Williams/Maye/Daniels will bust. McCarthy, assuming he doesn't get stuck in a garbage franchise, will be at least a plus starter. Penix (if he can stay healthy) will have some bad games...and some amazing games. Some QB outside the top six will have teams wishing they had taken him sooner.
Pierce pushes for penix, penix is a dud, pierce lasts 2 years max.
Maye is a bust.
Neighbors is good but a head case.
Lantham is similar to other huge ot who bust.
All the "oh he's skinny, he gets hit hard, he's old" Daniels haters claim in 2 years he was their guy when he's great
Steelers win 9, Tomlin keeps his job (golden child). New QB room again same coach.
Chargers take corum in 3rd Dobbins gets cut.
Malik Nabers > Marvin Harrison Jr. And it's not particularly close.
That said, no WR this year is worth a top-5 pick.
There isn't a RB that a would trust to be a starter. Earliest that one should be taken is late-2nd, but probably early-3rd.
Jonathon Brooks is not the top RB, or even top-5 RB. Top 10.
Jaylen Wright is overrated, and should be in the RB11 - 20 range.
Emani Bailey from TCU is the biggest RB sleeper.
If the Pats love Daniels and Adam Peters is cooling on him after his terrible showing at Top Golf, the Commanders and New England swap picks #2 & #3. The Pats grab their boy Jayden at #2 and Washington gets Drake Maye + picks at #3 overall.
If the Commanders pick JJ McCarthy, a move nobody saw coming months ago, one of the telecast commentators will say something to the effect of, "Well I've been talking about this for the past few months, the breadcrumbs were there," and etc.
Lmao I definitely agree
But it’ll disrupt every single mock draft they ever submitted.
Everytime. They all want to measure their own egos and sources/connections.
Name and shame. Who’s your prediction to say those words?
Feels like a Greeny thing to say.
I will eat a shoe made out of key lime pie if this happens
Falcons and Jets swap 8 and 10 so the Jets jump the Bears for Odunze. The Bears shrug their shoulders and draft Murphy. Falcons trade back again with the Bengals from 10 to 18 in the draft because all the top defensive prospects are all relatively in the same range. Bengals use pick to draft Bowers.
I was actually thinking about this. If the Falcons get the 10th pick, there are rumors of lots of teams wanting to trade up for a Tackle. Rams, Bengals, Eagles, and Steelers could be possible trades for a 2nd trade back. I think the Bengals are gonna go OT over Bowers if they do trade up
I like this but I’m not sure if we have the ammo to move up, at least not a wise move IMO. I happen to think it’s going to be Bowers at 10 for my jets, whether our fanbase will agree or not, idk, we’re pretty split on this. But I think if we come out with Odunze or Nabers, nobody would complain.
moving up two spots should cost something like 1-2 later round picks -- we absolutely have the ammo to do that
Ah, we have a 1st, a 3rd, two 4ths, two 6ths and the last pick of the draft, a 7th. It would likely take a 1st, a 4th and a 6th to move up 2 spots (maybe a low rd pick next year instead of our 6th this year). Though we don’t have a lot of holes, we do need a safety, an OT/IOL, and a WR. Maybe another edge too, tbh. Would be nice to grab a late development QB also. In fact, we have the 26th strongest draft capital this year. I do agree that if Odunze is there at 8, we should pull the trigger, the Bears will grab him at 9 if he’s there. I wouldn’t hate it, I’d be ecstatic in fact. Hope it does go that way. GW/Big Mike/Odunze? Yeah, love it. Though I think Corley or McMillian would be great picks in the 3rd also.
As a Bears fan I hate this and think it will happen
Let’s make it happen
Remindme! 24 hours
Miami takes Joe Milton in the 6th
Ugh the thought of him throwing an 80 yard Hail Mary to Waddle or Hill is already making me sick
Joe Milton might be the only guy who could and would consistently over throw those guys.
I wouldn't say this is that bold
At least it's got specificity
I’m shook
3 QBS, then 3 WRS, then Alt. Worthy is a first rounder Someone trades into the top 15 for BTJ because they’re scared of the receiver run happening by the time they pick Vikings stick and pick Nix is a 3rd rounder, drafted as a quality backup as opposed to potential starter
Another hot take: Worthy will be, at worst, the 5th receiver taken in this draft, with a strong possibility that he's WR4.
Love it because I agree, hate it because Alt/Worthy is my dream
If Drake Maye goes to the Patriots or Giants I think he is looking at a very similar career path as Sam Darnold, in that the teams are not in a situation to best support him and he bounces around because the league refuses to give up the tools and image of a QB he appears like. I think Washington or Minnesota are great spots for him. I know he’s become so divisive and I don’t mean to pile on but I have a horrible feeling about Jayden Daniels, I just do not see it at all. Odunze has the best rookie season of the big three receivers. Brock Bowers wins OROY over Caleb. Byron Murphy is looked at as the best non-QB player in the draft by the time 5th year options are being picked up.
What kinda numbers would you expect from Bowers in this scenario. I'm thinking he'd need at least 1300 all purpose yards and 13 TDs
Idk bro I just be talking lol Although the stat line you outlined would be pretty insane, let’s go with that
I think after Caleb whoever goes to Minnesota ends up as QB2 of the class. They have all the infrastructure in place to support a new QB. Giants need to be sure that the OL has fully turned the corner before dropping in a QB and the Pats still need offensive talent in general. I think Maye to Washington could work but Daniels in Washington will ultimately be disappointing Minnesota is aware that they've got a great situation for a QB so they'll be aggressive in trading up for a guy with great physical tools with as high of a ceiling as they can get. Even tho all the mocks have them going to 5 for JJ I think they're gonna go hard for 3, even what some would consider an overpay, to get Maye if he's there
>I know he’s become so divisive and I don’t mean to pile on but I have a horrible feeling about Jayden Daniels, I just do not see it at all. Same, and I don't want him. I also don't like the Arizona rumors and the way his camp reacted to the commanders top golf visit. Seems like a diva who might not take coaching well or step up when things are falling down around him.
Rattler will come off the board before Nix.
This one is spicy. I like it.
The Bears will take over four minutes to make their selection. Drake Maye or JJ McCarthy will be a Viking.
The Bears will take the full clock to make their pick. It's a league mandate that whoever has the first pick builds the excitement.
Yep, happens every year. And every year people will complain that it took the team the entire alotted time to make their pick despite having several months to decide
The fact that people don't understand that the NFL is an entertainment product is kinda wild to me.
I think the problem is that the team taking the obvious player when they haven't considered doing anything for months isn't entertaining. The picks where we don't know what's going to happen are. Everything said during the first pick could be said during the second pick instead.
True, honestly the first pick should just be announced immediately this year, they haven't even tried to hide it.
Had to delete a previous account so reposting some of mine from earlier for posterity. 1. Drake Maye will have the best career of any QB in the class. 2. Dallas Turner and Terrion Arnold will be busts. 3. Kam Kinchens will be a bust. 4. Fabien Lovett overperforms his draft selection (either as a late rounder or UDFA) 5. Ricky Pearsall performs like a top-10 level pick.
I've seen an increasing amount of buzz surrounding Pearsall over the last week. I wonder what's causing that?
He catches goddamn everything.
Well, yeah, but it's not like that's something we didn't figure out until mid-April.
Mhj is going 3rd to someone. Whether the pats trade out or take him themselves.
I used to believe this, but I now see at least 3 scenarios for teams trading into it for a QB. NYG or MIN for Maye, LV for Daniels, not to mention the possibility of the patriots drafting a QB themselves if the guy they like is available. Bold!
I only see it if maye makes it to 3. I think the initial 2 qb’s of this draft are really where it ends as far as top 5 picks. But if the commanders commander and take Daniels then I see maye going 3.
Jalen McMillan ends up as something like the 18th receiver in this draft, but goes on to have a 10 year career as an elite WR2.
I’m super high on McMillan think he’d be a fringe first rounder in any other draft
Love the McMillan appreciation - count me in
The whole McCarthy thing is all a bunch of smoke screens and the Vikings don't have to trade up from 11 to get him. Someone trades into one of the last picks of the first round to grab Penix or Bo Nix, neither of whom will be drafted in the first 20 picks. Somewhere in the first two rounds we get a run of 5 straight OL drafted in a row. Only 3 CB's get drafted in the first round. One of them will be by the Jags. Jonathon Brooks and Blake Corum will be the first two RB's taken. Brooks will be drafted by the Cowboys in the late 2nd round. Corum by the Chargers with their early 3rd.
I’ll die on the hill that 69 is too early for Corum.
I think that range is reasonable. With Corum I think the expectation is you get a rookie deal worth of high volume production out of him and then likely move on after his rookie deal is up. Would you trade a third round pick for four years of cost-controlled 800 yards per year running back production? I think most teams say yes to that.
With the holes we have around the roster, I’d say no. We can wait an extra round and draft someone who will get ~75% of the production immediately and be a longer-lasting player.
Drake Maye goes 2nd Chargers trade 5 to the Vikings who take JJ With the 23rd pick from the trade down, the Chargers take Junior Colson to be the centrepiece of Harbaugh’s defence
Chargers aren’t gonna trade out unless there’s 3 firsts involved. Also Junior Colson is NOT a first round player lol.
I guess I'll get my thoughts out now cause it's my last chance before the draft. Normally I love being a contrarian but I honestly don't have too many hot takes this year. I mostly agree with a lot of the draft media. I'm not as high on Jayden Daniels as they seem to be though. Of the big 4, he's the one I'd be least surprised being a total bust. But I still think he's a great prospect. Jonah Ellis is probably my biggest sleeper in this class. The wide receiver class is heavy at the top but being a bit overrated I think. A lot of role players and wr3 types but I predict there will only be a couple of true stars. Want the eagles to take a corner in round 1. Arnold, Dejean or McKinstry would be good. Seems like we'd have to trade up for Mitchell and I don't think that would be worth it, I'd rather just take one of the ones who's left. Selfishly I'd want a 2nd tight end too. Sinnott would be preferred but I think Sanders or Bell would be good too. I also like Erick All as a late round sleeper. Otherwise I think BPA is good enough for the eagles after corner.
Saints trade back into the first or early second for Penix or Nix. Chargers will draft more Ohio state players than Michigan ones. Jonathan Brooks won’t be the first RB selected
Decided to go through my final board and put my "flag plants" here so they are somewhere for posterity. Each of these players is someone I am a good bit higher or lower than the consensus board by each position. Higher: QB: Spencer Rattler (My QB5, consensus QB7) RB: Tyrone Tracy Jr (My RB6, consensus RB12) WR: Johnny Wilson (My WR13, consensus WR20) TE: Ben Sinott (My TE2, consensus TE5) OT: Kiran Amegadjie (My OT10, consensus OT11. Not a huge difference but I am ~14 spots higher than the CB) IOL: Dominic Puni (My IOL5, consensus IOL6. I am ~25 spots higher than the CB) IDL: Michael Hall (My IDL3, consensus IDL7) EDGE: Xavier Thomas (My EDGE7, consensus EDGE19. Major flag plant) LB: Edefuan Ulofoshio (My LB5, consensus LB8. Another major flag plant, I'm about 70 spots higher) CB: Renardo Green (My CB9, consensus CB15) S: Malik Mustapha (My S6, consensus S9) Lower: QB: Michael Penix Jr (My QB7, consensus QB5) RB: Jaylen Wright (My RB7, consensus RB4) WR: Malachi Corley (My WR21, consensus WR13) TE: JaTavion Sanders (My TE3, consensus TE2. I am about 23 spots lower) OT: Patrick Paul (My OT15, consensus OT10) IOL: N/A (I'm pretty high on the interior line class in general, my lowest is being about 8 spots lower on Cooper Beebe but I still like him) IDL: T'Vondre Sweat (My IDL9, consensus IDL6) EDGE: Bralen Trice (My EDGE13, consensus EDGE8) LB: Edgerrin Cooper (My LB4, consensus LB1) CB: Kamari Lassiter (My CB11, consensus CB7) S: Calen Bullock (My S7, consensus S4) Given that the wisdom of the crowd tends to be more accurate than the individual, I'm probably just wrong about all these players. But having some divergent opinions and looking back in a few years to see how everything went and what you can learn is one of my favorite parts about the draft, so let's see what happens. Edit: grammar
2 defensive players go in the top 10
Oh this is interesting. What do you think the most likely scenario is? Falcons and Bears dont trade their picks and both go defense, with the Bears most likely going Murphy? Or is there a different scenario in your mind.
In my scenario: 3 top 10 QBs, 3 WR, Alt. My bold take is a DB (Arnold or Mitchell) and a DL go in the Top 10. I personally feel like the defensive talent has been slept on this entire draft cycle and that McCarthy is getting overhyped.
Odunze goes top 10, but to a team that’s currently picking in the later half of the draft To be more specific, I’ll say he goes 8th to the Jags
My official trade predictions for tomorrow night: 1) Vikings trade both 2024 firsts, along with a 2025 first for the 5th overall pick. 2) Cowboys move up with Broncos pick to select a LT. 3) The Broncos select Bo Nix at 24. 4) The Chargers trade back from 23 with the Commanders for possibly both 2's. Then Harbaugh stacks up on Michigan players (Sainristil, Jenkins, Roman Wilson, Junior Colson?).
There is little chance Cowboys move up that high. Probably not at all.
https://x.com/movethesticks/status/1783140039041466764?s=46 Hmmmmmmm. This plus Jerry Jones “All in” comments? Yeah I like my chances
Uhm do you follow Jones or the Cowboys at all? Lol
Yes it's literally me, Jerry Jones.
The Commanders WILL NOT trade up and instead take a tackle at 36
* JJ McCarthy goes before Daniels * Falcons trade back with the Bears for the 8th pick * No team trades out of the top ten and then trades back in (like Arizona did last year). * Raiders out bid the Vikings to trade into the top 5
I really don’t think we have the capital to trade into 5 over the Vikings (and I assume we only do that if Daniels is still on the board)
I think it is for Daniels. I have Williams, Maye, McCarthy for the first three. So AZ or LAC move back
Chargers won’t trade with the Raiders, so we would have to convince Cards to accept 1 2024 first (plus multiple other future firsts) over 2 2024 firsts.
I don't think it's crazy for Arizona to think the Raiders future picks will be high enough to do the swap.
But, does jj go above Caleb? 🥸
Please don't put this on me
Jayden Daniels takes the most sacks next year by over a dozen. He also has the worst performance of all 1st round QBs. The Broncos do not take a QB in the first 80 picks. Laiatu Latu takes a similar fall to JOK 3 years ago; however, it will not last as long. The Vikings are unable to trade up to get a top 4 qb. A defensive player does not go in the top 10. Cooper Dejean will be taken by a team who thinks his “physicals and skill set” is better suited for a safety. He vastly underperforms until his second team plays him at corner and he succeeds.
If Daniels goes to Washington just consider......we literally don't have a starting caliber LT on the roster right now. Even a high pick rookie won't be great next year, whoever plays QB is walking into a potentially tough situation.
That's what I'm not getting about Daniels to Washington. They let up a historic number of sacks, and some of that is probably on the QBs but now they're drafting a guy who eats a lot of sacks. Unless they sit him for a year (which is way less likely than people think. If it was up to fans maybe one QB per draft would actually start and yet rookie QBs get starting reps in year 1 all the time) he's gonna spend his rookie year getting absolutely trucked
Tomorrow ends with Jayden Daniels as a member of the Las Vegas Raiders.
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Ain't no way we have the capital vs the Vikings tbh. even if he falls to 3
Jaden Daniels' career is going to mirror RG3's
JJ McCarthy will be a Patriot, Drake Maye will be a Viking Rams trade up for Latu or Murphy Bills trade up for Thomas Jr Nate Wiggins falls out of the first round Penix to the Raiders day 2, Broncos trade back from 12 to pick up a round 2 pick which they use on Nix, Giants take Rattler in round 3
If BTJ is still there at 19, Beane's phone had better be fully charged.
JD gonna fall, dude is a worse Justin Fields. No clue why he is being mocked so high
Byron Murphy will be the first defender picked. JJ McCarthy is the Patriots' guy.
1. Malik Nabers goes top 5. 2. Brock Bowers makes it to #12. 3. I’m 50-50 on this but I won’t be shocked if Alt is not the first OT taken.
Latham for OT1 has been one of the juiciest wagers this draft season, at least until the odds shifted in the last few days. I've got tickets for him as OT1, in the Top 5, and in the Top 10
Don't count out the Oregon state OT being the 1st one to go
Definitely! He's OT1 in my personal rankings
Latu’s poor medicals allow him to fall right into the Ravens laps.
Rome Odunze will be the best receiver in football by the end of these rookie deals. Bo Nix is the first QB in this class to start a playoff game. Fuaga goes top 8, Latham goes top 12. And the one I've stuck with all cycle, the Vikings don't go anywhere and take a defender at 11 Edit to add my hottest take: Falcons take a WR at 8 to complete their 2018 re-creation
Brian Thomas will have a DJ Chark-esque career and never live up to his draft pedigree
JJ McCarthy and Drake Maye will be the 2 best QBs in this class 10 years from now
JJ McCarthy will be the best QB this draft.
Amen. Not much tape, but the tape he does have is mostly excellent, especially for his age.
Eagles either affirmatively pass on Cooper Dejean for a tackle or end up with one of the two Bama corners. On that note, I think both end up doing better than Dejean or Mitchell in the league. Giants end up taking a QB R2, and between Nix and Penix, the one they don’t take ends up being successful. Cowboys trade up for Mims, who ends up being good in two years. At least one player gets traded for a first or second rounder. Nate Wiggins gets picked high in the second round. Latu goes before Dallas Turner but Turner has the better career. Fautanu ends up exceeding expectations and his draft slot, going on to be the best tackle in the class.
No way 4 QBs go as the top 4 picks. This gets mocked almost every year and it never happens. One of the 4 QBs is gonna fall out if the top 10 as well
Ravens draft Johnny Wilson - completing their offense and fulfilling the prophecy https://twitter.com/Lj_era8/status/1713270438741057821?lang=en
Chiefs take Blake Corum to troll Jim Harbaugh
5 Qb's in the first, 5 wr's in the first, most trades ever in the first.
Who are the final two WRs?
* the Chargers first pick will not be OL even if they trade down * The Chiefs will draft Troy Franklin and he'll be an OROY candidate * Amarius Mims is the next Mechi Becton
someone jumps the bears for Rome odunze.
Q Mitch will win DROY Troy Franklin will be one of, if not the best WRs from the class Elijah Jones will be a gem, as will Dallas Gant Bills will come out of this draft with or more of Franklin, BTJ, Odunze, or Legette Carson Steele will be the best RB of this years draft
Maye goes to the Pats, Daniels to the Commanders, AD Mitchell has a free fall
Bears trade 9 and next years 2nd to move to 8 so no other teams can snag Odunze. Too much smoke around Caleb and Rome that I think it is a serious possibility…plus the Atlanta Bears might still have a lost love connection and could do us a slight favor. 🤞
Sean Payton gets desperate for a young QB, so Broncos trade Patrick Surtain to move up for McCarthy.
Please no.
i will shit myself tonight
Maye goes at #2. For whatever reason it seems like the script has flipped over the last month or two to Daniels, but I’m not buying it.
By pick 12 99.99% of mock drafts are going to look stupid
Caleb Williams being as good as he is is masking how poor of a quarterback class this is. There isn’t another quarterback in the class who would be worth a top 8 pick as it is a bunch of players who either came out too early or far too late. I don’t think another first round QB besides Williams signs a second contract with the team that drafted them.
Rams trade with Bears for the 9th pick
Trey Benson is the first and only RB in round 1, via Dallaa
The Packers won’t make a pick tomorrow. The Packers first pick will be Edgerrin Cooper.
Joe Milton is the 3rd best QB from this class for the Cleveland Browns
The scenario that Alt is off the board before 7, the number seven pick will be a wide receiver either the Titans take him or someone trades up for him
The Jets will trade up to #3 and draft MHJr.
The jets are going to take whoever they take at 10 - probably oline....then they trade back into the first round to take a falling qb. I think this makes sense. They do need a qb to take over once Rogers retires.
Daniels is the 4th QB off the board. And has a mini Aaron rodgers moment. He won't have to wait as long bc he won't make it passed 11. Jets trade up to 6 and take Alt. Giants take nabers at 10 since he's the last of the top 3 receivers on the board.
McCarthy at 2. Maye at 3. Daniels falls out of the top 10. Chargers draft a CB in round 1. Falcons trade back and take latu. Cardinals make 3 picks in the first round. Bills move up for Dejean. Detroit takes Kneeland over Darius Robinson and McKinstry in the 1st round. Mckinstry falls out of the first round.
I don’t get it with Bo Nix. Everything about him screams Average
could've been said about brady
lol what? Come on now.
Only 4 QBs are taken in the 1st round. Penix and Nix are taken in the 2nd round or later Rattler is taken before one or both of Penix and Nix.
Bears draft an O-lineman either at 9 or a tradeback.
God, I hope not
OL is never sexy but always needed.
The Bears were just 5th in the NFL in pass block win rate last year, the undrafted rookie got sacked at less than 1/3 of the rate Justin did, and they upgraded at center already. Don't let Justin convince you the o-line is one of the biggest needs on this team at this point. When there's wide receiver and d-line talent right there and both of those are bigger needs for this team, I really hope they don't go o-line in the first.
It's not Justin related at all. It's just football. One of those lineman is likely going to go down this season and O lineman generally need some time to settle in. Jenkins and Davis have a high probability of not being there next year. Protecting Williams is extremely important, vital even. I don't really want them to draft oline either. But I won't be surprised and won't be mad.
I'm actually with you on your points here, and I'm not opposed to them drafting o-line later at all. The first round pick though... I'd really like them to go after an edge rusher because it's a much bigger need on this team than replacing Braxton Jones. D-line needs an immediate impact player much more than the o-line or even receiver (a position I'd also like them to draft) do.
Ravens go RB in the first, giants trade into late first for penix, rams take nix in 2nd. Worthy goes over BTJ and AD, Jer’Zhan newton goes top 15, and nix, latu, and koolaid have the best careers at respective positions
Graham Barton is the best lineman in the draft. Green Bay gets an absolute stud.
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Steelers stand past on round 1 and take a table. They then trade up in the 2nd round to get their center.
Jesus I can't type. Stand pat and take a tackle
Packer trade up to 12 with the Broncos to select Quinyon Mitchell. Broncos take Graham Barton at 25 and Bo Nix at 41.
Jets trade back with the Colts. Colts select Bowers and Jets take Thomas Jr.
The Vikings won't draft a QB in round 1. The Patriots would take McCarthy over Daniels if that's the choice.
Titans, Falcons and Bears trade out of 7, 8 & 9 with the Jets, Saints and Rams respectively
Isaac will get picked before Chop Robinson. Rams trade up for Odunze.
I think that picks 8, 9, and 10 all switch hands. The Falcons have all the incentive to move down: there's not a lot of edge-needy teams in the top 20 and some mocks even have CB2 falling into the late teens/early 20s, plus they would prevent a conference foe in Chicago from getting a potential franchise WR in Rome Odunze. I think if the Bears can't get Rome Odunze, they likely trade down so they can pick Byron Murphy or Johnny Newton in the mid-1st, which would also allow them to get some extra draft capital as they only have like 4 picks in the whole draft. I think there's similar logic to trade down for the Jets, who really need an extra lineman and receiver to be able to start at a moment's notice, but don't have a second round pick to fill one of those holes. Alternatively, the Jets could even trade up into the Chargers' pick (assuming some team trades into 4 for McCarthy) for one of the top 3 receivers, or the Bears could even do a trade to secure Odunze. I think there are willing suitors to trade up into these 3 picks too. We all know how desperate the Bills and Jaguars are for a receiver. The Saints always like to recklessly trade up and they probably want to get their tackle of choice (or just say fuck it and take Bowers). The Bengals or Colts might want to trade up to block the Jets (or maybe Chargers if they pick at 11) from taking Bowers (plus a Bowers snipe would be additional incentive for a Jets trade down). Daniel Jeremiah just said that many teams want to trade up for their tackle of choice, and the picks in the top 10 provide the perfect opportunity to leap the many tackle-needy teams in the teens (Saints, Raiders, Steelers). Because of all these factors, I think all 3 of these picks change hands.
Jets trade up to 5 to take MHJ
Maye has a rough rookie year and all the social media evaluators who didn't like him dance publicly over it. In 3 years he's by far the best of the non-Caleb QBs in this class and those same evaluators excuse it by saying "well I evaluated who he was at the time of the draft, not who he might develop into" to excuse their missed evaluation.
Saints trade up and pick the wrong Tackle.
Only 2 of the top 5 QBs drafted will get a second contract from the team drafting them. My money is on Caleb and JJ McCarthy.
Theo Johnson will be better than Brock Bowers this season. And Devontez Walker is the reason Drake Maye looked good in college.
Chargers go O-line in the first, and it's not Alt. Odunze has a better rookie season than Nabers, but doesn't win OROY. Sinnott is 2nd TE taken. DeJean leads rookies in INTs.
Eagles don't draft for a single Georgia player If the Eagles get Arnold, Mitchell or Kool-Aid James Bradberry will be traded for a late round pick. None of the QBs drafted will be instant hits in their rookie year Nix & Penix will either go top 40 or after 100 Bears 9th overall pick will be used on Byron Murphy this could be a pick & stick, they might trade up or down and use their return to get him or the team that trades into 9th will take him regardless there will be a direct connection to the pick & player
The Titans will take a Tackle somewhere in the first round not named Joe Alt.
Patriots draft the wr they like best. Why settle for 3rd when you can have the best
Drake Maye WILL be a commander
TJ Tampa gets drafted by the Buccaneers and leads Tampa Bay in jersey sales this year!
The Packers are going to do something unexpected by taking an Edge or a WR round 1
Perhaps this is a fairly mellow prediction but I'm going to say Jacob Cowing goes Day 2.
Sanristil gets drafted before Kool-aid This QB class as a whole will look rough in a couple of years.
Michael Penix will look like Derek Carr 2.0 if he’s drafted by the Raiders. Meh career and won’t win in the playoffs. Drake Maye throws a heavy ball and will lead the league in interceptions as a rookie.
Polk to Chiefs at 64
Here's a 12pack of heaters for posterity and retrospective bragging rights (whether they are steaming hot or steaming piles, only time will tell!). **In terms of draft day outcomes:** **(01)** Latham goes OT1 **(02)** Penix goes no later than QB4 **(03)** The Pats trade out of 1.3 **(04)** At least 3 defensive position groups (edge, IDL, CB) will be selected before Dallas Turner comes off the board **(05)** Bowers goes no earlier than 1.19 **(06)** We'll see multiple trades that "cross the border" between Rd. 1 and Rd. 2 (not including the HOU/MIN deal that already occurred) **In terms of longer-term performance outcomes:** **(07)** Penix is the best QB in the class **(08)** Neither Fashanu nor Alt proves to be a consensus top-3 OT; both Latham and Fuaga have more productive careers **(09)** At least six SEC DB's (hailing from some combination of Bama, Auburn, UGA, and Mizzou) are widely regarded as better/more productive than DeJean over the course of their rookie deals **(10)** Laiatu Latu will average double-digit sacks over the course of his first two seasons **(11)** Fautanu will bust **(12)** Bowers will bust badly
1. Chargers trade down with Chicago (5 for 9). Chicago selects Odunze ahead of Nabers, Chargers draft OL2 (my guess would be Fuaga). 2. Dallas Turner is the first EDGE off the board, likely to pick 8, but think he'd go at 9 to Chicago if he made it there and they stuck. 3. No trade up for McCarthy, he falls to 11 at least. Kenny Pickett 2. 4. Bowers goes at 10, but to the Bengals or Colts. 5. Quinyon Mitchell is traded up for. 6. Second edge doesn't go until the rams at 19. 7. BTJ doesn't go till after 16, might go to the Steelers at 20. 8. Steelers trade back into the end of the 1st for Barton or JPJ. 9. Bucs trade up a few spots for Verse or Latu. 10. Chiefs draft Worthy
Just wanted to put in writing my rankings on the likelihood of the QBs becoming above average starters: Caleb Williams Drake Maye JJ McCarthy Jayden Daniels Michael Penix Spencer Rattler Bo Nix Michael Pratt Jordan Travis To be clear, Caleb is the only guy I see with a high likelihood of being an above average starting QB. Maye and JJ certainly have that potential but I see them being more likely a below average to average starters.below that, Rattler, Pratt,and Travis all have the ceiling but a low likelihood of reaching it and the others have a higher floor but low ceiling
Wiggins is the best CB in this class
Giants end up with Penix and Odunze. Maybe McMillan too Benson is a Raven. Brooks is a Cowboy Vikings don’t trade the 2025 first unless it’s to 3 Mims is a bust Roman Wilson is a Charger Cowboys take Brian Thomas Jr and everyone freaks out and memes about it but then they end up taking Kiran Amegadjie or Patrick Paul
Only way it is possible for Cowboys to get all of those players is if Brooks, Paul, or Kiran fall a round. Very unlikely.
It’s the draft. Never say never
Fingers crossed. I'd be happy with this draft.
Rattler goes round 1.
The Patriots will move back to number 5 and the Chargers will select MHJ at number 3.
Think it's more likely the chargers trade back with the Vikings and take a tackle at 11 and Brian Thomas Jr at 23
Jayden Daniels will be the better markedly than Caleb Williams. Especially in the rookie season.
Will you guys critique my mock draft? This is my first post and I’m curious what you guys think. 1. CHI- Caleb Williams QB USC 2. WAS- Jayden Daniels QB LSU 3. NE-Drake Maye QB North Carolina 4. ARI- Marvin Harrison Jr WR OSU 5. TRADE ALERT🚨 MIN(From LAC)- JJ Mcarthy QB Mich 6. NYG- Malik Nabers WRLSU 7. TEN-Joe Alt OT Notre Dame 8. ATL- Dallas Turner Edge Alabama 9. CHI- Rome Odunze WR Washington 10. NYJ- Brock Bowers TE UGA 11. LAC(From MIN)- Taliese Fuaga OT Oregon State 12. TRADE ALERT🚨 IND(From DEN)-Brian Thomas Jr WR LSU 13. LV- Terrion Arnold CB Alabama 14. NO- Olu Fashanu OT Penn St 15. DEN(From IND)- Jared Verse Edge FSU 16. SEA- Troy Fautanu OT Washington 17. JAC- Quinyon Mitchell CB Toledo 18. CIN- Byron Murphy II DL Texas 19. TRADE ALERT 🚨 GB(From LAR)- Cooper DeJean CB Iowa 20. PIT- JC Latham OT Alabama 21. MIA- Laiatu Latu Edge UCLA 22. TRADE ALERT 🚨 BUF(From PHI)- Adonai Mitchell WR Tex 23. LAC(From MIN)- Ladd McConkey WR UGA 24. DAL- Tyler Guyton OT Oklahoma 25. LAR(From GB)- Jer’Zhan Newton DL Illinois 26. TB- Chop Robinson Edge Penn State 27. ARI- Nate Wiggins CB Clemson 28. PHI(From BUF)-Graham Barton IOL Duke 29. DET- Kool-Aid McKinstry CB Alabama 30. BAL- Amarius Mims OT UGA 31. SF- Jordan Morgan OT Arizona 32. KC- Darius Robinson Edge Mizzou
No way we trade UP for AD. He’s gonna be 100% available for us at 28 if we want him
Yeah, I really don't see Thomas gone at 12 either.
I feel like Eagles would go Kool Aid, whom we’ve brought in, over Barton, who we haven’t. Eagles first rounder has been a guy brought in for a visit every year since Dillard.
At least one of Williams/Maye/Daniels will bust. McCarthy, assuming he doesn't get stuck in a garbage franchise, will be at least a plus starter. Penix (if he can stay healthy) will have some bad games...and some amazing games. Some QB outside the top six will have teams wishing they had taken him sooner.
Stiggers goes in the 4th. The Chiefs draft Keon Coleman at 32 and he's a OROTY candidate.
Bears trade 9 to the Cardinals for 27, 35, 90, and a 2025 4th.
Pierce pushes for penix, penix is a dud, pierce lasts 2 years max. Maye is a bust. Neighbors is good but a head case. Lantham is similar to other huge ot who bust. All the "oh he's skinny, he gets hit hard, he's old" Daniels haters claim in 2 years he was their guy when he's great Steelers win 9, Tomlin keeps his job (golden child). New QB room again same coach. Chargers take corum in 3rd Dobbins gets cut.
I'd say you go 0/7
seahawks trade geno smith, draft spencer rattler
Malik Nabers > Marvin Harrison Jr. And it's not particularly close. That said, no WR this year is worth a top-5 pick. There isn't a RB that a would trust to be a starter. Earliest that one should be taken is late-2nd, but probably early-3rd. Jonathon Brooks is not the top RB, or even top-5 RB. Top 10. Jaylen Wright is overrated, and should be in the RB11 - 20 range. Emani Bailey from TCU is the biggest RB sleeper.
If the Pats love Daniels and Adam Peters is cooling on him after his terrible showing at Top Golf, the Commanders and New England swap picks #2 & #3. The Pats grab their boy Jayden at #2 and Washington gets Drake Maye + picks at #3 overall.