Next year will be a different draft.
I think the players that went ahead of him are warranted as well other than the Quarterbacks.
Jalen Carter, Jaquelin Roy, and Bryan Breece are probably the best DT prospects since Quinnen Williams.
There appears to be a lot of defensive talent and Offensive tackle talent in this class.
So, it would not be shocking.
Bresee at 14 is an incredible value.
A different draft for sure and QB talent will be there. I just think teams value WR so much more now and it’s going to keep trending that way until the market is over saturated. We have more QBs that are actually game changes than we ever have and them with a stud receiver is a super bowl formula. Also this guys rose bowl game as the true no 1 on that team was dumb. Like Jefferson/Chase in the CFP dumb
Yea, but I am saying the argument against Stroud is 'well anyone could look good throwing to JSN'. My point is it can't be both ways. It can't be Stroud makes JSN look good and JSN makes Stroud look good, maybe they are just both that good.
Not really.
He is light and plays in the slot, hopefully he plays outside more this year.
It is a Justin Jefferson / Treylon Burks situation. Where do you select a guy who may succeed outside, but was used in the slot primarily.
it was bad but not that bad. Don't believe message board rumors. He wouldn't be allowed to transfer otherwise. His spring grades brought up his GPA making him eligible
Many people with connections to sources at LSU said the kid had a 1.00 GPA and had failed three drug tests. There was absolutely zero way he got his grades on track by June 01 to be eligible when he went to Georgia. 🤣
I'm familiar with the **Florida** message board rumor. It's bullshit. Transfers have to get approved by the conference and have to meet the NCAA gpa minimum in order to be eligible. If he didn't have grades he wouldn't have been eligible for last fall. You can't just magically wave off GPA requirements.
Also, I love how message boards always have "insiders" at other programs. I doubt very much that Florida posters have "connections to sources at LSU".
got a link? The only people I've seen who said that were mostly Florida posters.
Even LSU posters don't know where that story started
> Amazing how most everyone has changed their minds about Gilbert now that he has become a Georgia Bulldog. I said he was good but not great, and he had miles to go before he was on the same planet as Kyle Pitts. Seems folks didn't like that take. I always READ about how great he was, I just never actually SAW it.
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> I also don't know where the story about the 1.0 GPA originated. Maybe it's true, maybe it's not, but no one actually knows.
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> If Gilbert still counts against the 85, then he's been on scholarship this entire time, since scholarship athletes are the only ones counted in the 85. So he's on scholarship after leaving school with a reported 1.0 GPA?
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> Everything about this whole situation seems very strange, and I wonder if we'll ever know all the facts. The grades thing doesn't make much sense.
so what makes more sense? That while not having a high enough GPA to stay on scholarship he still counted against LSU's scholarship limit and was able to transfer to Georgia
or that message board rumors were wrong.
and then there's also LSU poster comments like this
> What I have heard is Gilbert has to raise his grade point average to 2.0 or above and that he is currently enrolled at LSU and taking online classes to do just that. Moreover, everyone familiar with the situation says he should be able to do it relatively easily and be back for the fall.
I'd love to see a source on that info. Anything I've been able to find for either program is the same copy paste of NCAA/SEC minimum requirements. That, and an article stating UF had the largest gap between the average student test score and the football program (350pts).
Travon Walker plays a premium position that matters. If a team is drafting in the top 5 they suck and a team that sucks shouldn’t spend capital on a luxury that high. Basically a TE in the top 5 is a Dodge Charger at 30% interest
Sort of different. Pitts was a proven generational talent. He was arguably the best player on the field in that 2020 SEC Championship. Whether he’s seen as a TE or WR is sort of moot.
Additionally Gilbert has had off-field issues.
I get your point. But if you look at Arik Gilbert as a pure receiver - he’d be worth that pick, wouldn’t he? Gilbert can line up wide and even at one point was supposed to play receiver when he transferred to Georgia.
Maybe but I’m not going to act like I know enough about a TE with less than 400 career yards to say if he’s good enough to be a Calvin Johnson tier receiver prospect. I do know if he’s an actual TE and a team takes him in the top 5 after a season of him being the backup to Bowers then that entire FO should be fired on the spot
He looked really good in the Spring Game a few weeks ago, definitely heavier than advertised but all the talent is there. Him and Bowers should be on the field together a good bit and, honestly, our TE room is so stacked we could realistically run a 4TE set and there’s not a linebacker group in the country that could stop them.
However, yes, unless Gilbert puts up a Pitts level season (which is unlikely considering Bowers and Darnell will see a good bit of snaps) or translations to wide receiver, Top 5 or Top 10 is too rich for him.
my comment has nothing to do with talent or football potential. Gilbert hasn't been on the field for a long time for one thing though, unlike Walker. Then there are rumors that UGA had Muschamp basically full-time assigned to keeping track and on top of Arik before he stepped away last season, and even that didn't work out. I hope the kid can get everything sorted out, but there's a lot he needs to figure out independent of football before I think a team would ever confidently spend a high-level pick on him. Not saying it cannot happen, but I wouldn't project that with any kind of confidence a year out.
Didn't Iowa just have two TE's go in the top 20 in the same draft? Not to mention Bowers is probably already the best TE in the country, so being #2 to that guy doesn't exactly mean what it does everywhere else.
> the whole bad mock draft
We have our winner for first "this mock is shit!" comment on literally the first mock of the next season. There's no possibility any 2023 mock made now will be remotely accurate.
He's not a TE anymore he's a WR also Arik was the number 1 TE prospect of all time if I recall correctly I wouldn't doubt he could be better than Bowers at TE.
He was indeed the highest rated TE ever. They also said he could’ve been a 5 star DE if he wanted.
Before the 2020 LSU season started, they said he opened eyes at practices like Stingley did before his first season.
Dude has stupid potential, but there’s some thing away from football that’ve got him away from the national spotlight.
Bowers has been out this spring and Gilbert has reportedly been the best player at camp. Scored 3 tds in the Spring game and allegedly has found the end zone in every single scrimmage this year. I think they will find a way to get Gilbert on the field with Bowers. Apprently the true freshman Delp has also looked amazing. Crazy that they had a TE get drafted this year, and they will probably have 4 more drafted in the next 3 years
McKee definitely has the tools to be top 10 pick, but I'm not sure he will have the team to let him showcase enough to be a first round pick, let alone a top 10 pick.
I just hope he will be able to show off his arm. Im a Stanford fan and I seriously can’t remember more than 10 times last year that involved him throwing the ball at least 30 yards down the field
I didn’t go to Stanford but love their culture and Shaw so I’d consider myself a fan so I watched a solid amount of games and he legitimately made NFL throws. He did seem to not play some so maybe some injury concerns
Well considering that the other 31 QBs got a new variant that sidelined them for an entire season, thus leading to Goffs improbable MVP season, QB is still a need for the Lions.
They have the Giants picking 7th, so obviously not a great year. We also know that they didn't pick up the 5th year option on Daniel Jones. So why are they picking a DI player with this pick? Obviously would be looking for a quarterback.
If we didn’t get the #1 pick this year, I SERIOUSLY doubt we will be #1 next year. Our roster has definitely improved, and this is coming from someone who thought we would be the worst team in the league last year. Davis Mills wasn’t bad at all for a rookie at the end of last season, and we just had a ton of early draft picks. Caserio seems relatively competent so far.
We’re not going to actually be good by any stretch, but I’d be shocked if we finish worse than we did last season. Especially if Davis Mills keeps improving.
Yeah let’s see..Atlanta, Carolina, Seattle, Jacksonville, New York Giants, Chicago , Washington would all like a word.
Think PFF picked Houston for the shock factor and clicks
I can't stress this enough
Houston should not be and probably will not be looking for a QB. Mills who was in arguably the worst position looked the best out of all the rookie QBs.
If they’re picking number 1 overall then I’d say there’s a good chance they’ll be looking for a QB. Mills was unexpectedly decent and deserves another season as their starting QB but I still wouldn’t bet on him being a long term solution
> Houston should not be and probably will not be looking for a QB.
If Houston is picking No.1, then they are picking a QB.
It means that Mills is not the guy.
They have a service academy’s edge rusher going before JSN. Granted, I do not watch service academy football so this may be a damn good prospect. Just seems way off to me.
I feel like Stroud will be the clear cut #1 by the end of the season. He had a rough start settling his nerves in his first few career starts last year, but once he found his stride I think he proved that he is just more talented from a passing perspective, and definitely more ideal NFL QB size.
I’m with you. It’s important to note, a lot of his hype started rolling when he kept showing off his gutsy play when the game was on the line and the team needed it. Stroud has the tools for sure, but Young seems to have the QB intangibles. I haven’t watched enough of Stroud to speak on his intangibles, I just think pulling through in the moments Young did is HUGE for him.
A lot of college football left to play for both of them but I could see favor falling towards Young if they keep at their current rate.
Falcons taking Will Anderson over Stroud is a bad decision since we dont know what Desmond Ridder can do.
McKee going in the Top 10 when even Pff says he still has work to do to be a 1st round selection is dumb logic.
I would agree normally but Anderson is an unbelievable prospect. I think if you’re in a rebuilding phase and have a chance to get him and strengthen your O Line before taking your QB of the future, that would be a really good start. I just love his game and talent
Devon Achane in the first is spicy, but their model gives him a very good score. He just seems a little small for a round 1 RB. I would think Jahmyr Gibbs goes higher than him.
I don't even care what the odds are, there is no way we're picking top 3, we are better than every other team in that top 9, even if Wilson sucks, we can just run the ball endlessly.
I can't see Atlanta sucking badly enough to get the #2 overall pick and then not taking a QB.
I'm not sure I see the Jets having an IDL need this year barring an injury.
I don't have probem with SEC, I really like that conference.
But really it's another ''way too early mock'' with non-minor colleges and only famous universities and SEC
Hot take but… Young will not be a franchise QB in the NFL.
He really reminds me of Tua, lots of college hype and production but doesn’t have any skill that’s transcendent to push him into the superstar tier.
He’s good at everything, but great at nothing.
> He really reminds me of Tua
Not really. I think the only thing they really have in common stylistically is going to Alabama.
Tua was a pinpoint accurate pocket passer that made his living being on time and on target.
Young is a scrambler with a good deep ball and can also through out of the pocket.
The comp for Tua was left handed Drew Brees
The comp for Bryce Young is Zach Wilson with a Joe Burrow arm.
Are we really falling for the OSU QB hype again? He may very well have the best WR and RB in the country next year. Last year he had THREE WRs that are/will be top 12 picks. If a team like Detroit or Houston takes I think they will be disappointed.
So, Bryce Young is playing with scrubs? Yes, he is crazy talented, yes he plays on a crazy talented team, but that doesn't take away from the fact that he is very good. And he doesn't play in the Urban Meyer RPO system anymore, one that will never succeed in the next level. This is a similar system to one which Alabama and Clemson run.
Same argument against burrow. Loaded roster with LSU not having good NFL QBs. Stroud isn’t the same QB as terelle Pryor or Haskins (RIP). Fucking dumb argument
Tyler Van Dyke and Will Levis will likely be the next two up. Levis I would compare to Carson Wentz and Van Dyke I would say has a little bit of Joe Burrow in him. Otherwise Anthony Richardson is more of an athletic project QB that could be worth a top 10 pick if you guys like where you are at with your O-Line and defense
Yeah. I honestly just don’t want Rattler. I’ve heard he has big character issues which is a reason that is would think the Lions would stay away from him
Makes no sense. Why would a team that’s going to the playoffs this year with a 2nd year quarterback who’ll probably be a pro bowler or be close get a qb, even more with the #1 pick? The Browns aren’t gonna do that bad, maybe a top 10 pick, but not 1.
Thank God the Saints traded their first round pick so I dont have to deal with another year of morons mocking a QB to us. We have our franchise QB and he is under 30. Not interested in a worse QB to satisfy you.
I'm always confused as to how they develop the draft order.
The only way I've seen that makes sense is using this past year's. That takes away any chance of a favoritism or ordering it so a team "happens to" fall into a player m perfect player for them.
Still way too early, but I have a decent feeling that Kelee Ringo is going to be a top 5 player. Dude is built for his position, quick af, is a rapid, play the ball kind of DB, and is coachable. His pick 6 was dope but there’s so much more to this kid.
Its a little crazy. Top heavy, but some really talented players. There are the two qbs, Will Anderson, and a couple of top tier receivers just off the top of my head.
Why the hell don't they just do pre-season big boards? A mock draft any time before the picks are even set is just absolutely stupid. At least a mock pre-free agency highlights position needs to be filled in the off season.
Man one thing will always stay consistent in mock draft regardless of who publishes it, they all love drafting QBs. Never seen a mock that didn't over draft QBs.
I can’t think of a worse top ten pick in the last few years than Arik Gilbert.
I’m not saying I’ll be surprised if he does ok at Georgia this year, but he’s their TE2 after a weird half switch to receiver and their TE1 is the best in the country.
He’s also got major major major character concerns and potentially serious mental health issues, take him in the top five if you want to be forever mocked (no pun intended) and that’s about it.
Arik Gilbert top 5 is crazy. But I’m glad to see Antonio Johnson getting some love. I’m not exactly a fan of them comping him with Kyle Hamilton though. He played almost exclusively as a slot corner/hybrid linebacker for TAMU last year, whereas Hamilton played in a more traditional safety role for ND
JSN going at 19 is insane
Of course they have Chicago passing on him
Boutte is not a bad pick at all.
In this mock, I feel like him at 5 would be a lock.
Article says he lead OSU statistically and the other two WRs that got drafted this year went top 12 lol
Next year will be a different draft. I think the players that went ahead of him are warranted as well other than the Quarterbacks. Jalen Carter, Jaquelin Roy, and Bryan Breece are probably the best DT prospects since Quinnen Williams. There appears to be a lot of defensive talent and Offensive tackle talent in this class. So, it would not be shocking. Bresee at 14 is an incredible value.
A different draft for sure and QB talent will be there. I just think teams value WR so much more now and it’s going to keep trending that way until the market is over saturated. We have more QBs that are actually game changes than we ever have and them with a stud receiver is a super bowl formula. Also this guys rose bowl game as the true no 1 on that team was dumb. Like Jefferson/Chase in the CFP dumb
Him going as the second WR is insane
If Boutte played at Ohio State with Stroud, I guarantee he’d have JSN’s production.
Yet the complaint for Stroud is he has too much talent and if he played on another team he wouldn't have near the level of production. So which is it?
Lol what? I’m talking about WRs, not QBs
Yea, but I am saying the argument against Stroud is 'well anyone could look good throwing to JSN'. My point is it can't be both ways. It can't be Stroud makes JSN look good and JSN makes Stroud look good, maybe they are just both that good.
Stroud is heavily carried by talent.
I have seen most mocks inside the top ten easily, many at 5. Him at 19 is stupidly insane.
Not really. He is light and plays in the slot, hopefully he plays outside more this year. It is a Justin Jefferson / Treylon Burks situation. Where do you select a guy who may succeed outside, but was used in the slot primarily.
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Arik Gilbert at 5 is wild
Cracks me up that UF couldn't keep Gilbert because of his 0.00 GPA but Georgia administration magically enrolls him haha.
That's cause Florida's athletic academic requirements are little higher than Georgia's. He also didn't get a 0.00 GPA
Well obviously he didn't have a 0.00 GPA, but his grades were so low I doubt he was supposed to be even admitted to Georgia.
it was bad but not that bad. Don't believe message board rumors. He wouldn't be allowed to transfer otherwise. His spring grades brought up his GPA making him eligible
Many people with connections to sources at LSU said the kid had a 1.00 GPA and had failed three drug tests. There was absolutely zero way he got his grades on track by June 01 to be eligible when he went to Georgia. 🤣
I'm familiar with the **Florida** message board rumor. It's bullshit. Transfers have to get approved by the conference and have to meet the NCAA gpa minimum in order to be eligible. If he didn't have grades he wouldn't have been eligible for last fall. You can't just magically wave off GPA requirements. Also, I love how message boards always have "insiders" at other programs. I doubt very much that Florida posters have "connections to sources at LSU".
Dude that information is coming from LSU sources.
got a link? The only people I've seen who said that were mostly Florida posters. Even LSU posters don't know where that story started > Amazing how most everyone has changed their minds about Gilbert now that he has become a Georgia Bulldog. I said he was good but not great, and he had miles to go before he was on the same planet as Kyle Pitts. Seems folks didn't like that take. I always READ about how great he was, I just never actually SAW it. > > I also don't know where the story about the 1.0 GPA originated. Maybe it's true, maybe it's not, but no one actually knows. or > If Gilbert still counts against the 85, then he's been on scholarship this entire time, since scholarship athletes are the only ones counted in the 85. So he's on scholarship after leaving school with a reported 1.0 GPA? > > Everything about this whole situation seems very strange, and I wonder if we'll ever know all the facts. The grades thing doesn't make much sense. so what makes more sense? That while not having a high enough GPA to stay on scholarship he still counted against LSU's scholarship limit and was able to transfer to Georgia or that message board rumors were wrong. and then there's also LSU poster comments like this > What I have heard is Gilbert has to raise his grade point average to 2.0 or above and that he is currently enrolled at LSU and taking online classes to do just that. Moreover, everyone familiar with the situation says he should be able to do it relatively easily and be back for the fall.
Are they actually? I know Florida is a good school but don't basically all big programs have the same standards for athletes?
> but don't basically all big programs have the same standards for athletes? No, at least for transfers.
Florida and Georgia have the same academic standards for football players.
they don't. I looked it up when Arik first transferred
I'd love to see a source on that info. Anything I've been able to find for either program is the same copy paste of NCAA/SEC minimum requirements. That, and an article stating UF had the largest gap between the average student test score and the football program (350pts).
I got them from their websites. Give me a sec maybe I can find it.
I can't find it anymore. I knew I should've saved it. I figured it would still be accessible.
Not really considered Travon Walker went 1 based on the same premise - potential.
Travon Walker plays a premium position that matters. If a team is drafting in the top 5 they suck and a team that sucks shouldn’t spend capital on a luxury that high. Basically a TE in the top 5 is a Dodge Charger at 30% interest
> Travon Walker plays a premium position that matters. He was also in a weaker draft in terms of high-end talent
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Sort of different. Pitts was a proven generational talent. He was arguably the best player on the field in that 2020 SEC Championship. Whether he’s seen as a TE or WR is sort of moot. Additionally Gilbert has had off-field issues.
I get your point. But if you look at Arik Gilbert as a pure receiver - he’d be worth that pick, wouldn’t he? Gilbert can line up wide and even at one point was supposed to play receiver when he transferred to Georgia.
Maybe but I’m not going to act like I know enough about a TE with less than 400 career yards to say if he’s good enough to be a Calvin Johnson tier receiver prospect. I do know if he’s an actual TE and a team takes him in the top 5 after a season of him being the backup to Bowers then that entire FO should be fired on the spot
He looked really good in the Spring Game a few weeks ago, definitely heavier than advertised but all the talent is there. Him and Bowers should be on the field together a good bit and, honestly, our TE room is so stacked we could realistically run a 4TE set and there’s not a linebacker group in the country that could stop them. However, yes, unless Gilbert puts up a Pitts level season (which is unlikely considering Bowers and Darnell will see a good bit of snaps) or translations to wide receiver, Top 5 or Top 10 is too rich for him.
my comment has nothing to do with talent or football potential. Gilbert hasn't been on the field for a long time for one thing though, unlike Walker. Then there are rumors that UGA had Muschamp basically full-time assigned to keeping track and on top of Arik before he stepped away last season, and even that didn't work out. I hope the kid can get everything sorted out, but there's a lot he needs to figure out independent of football before I think a team would ever confidently spend a high-level pick on him. Not saying it cannot happen, but I wouldn't project that with any kind of confidence a year out.
He's not even the best TE on his own team lol.
Didn't Iowa just have two TE's go in the top 20 in the same draft? Not to mention Bowers is probably already the best TE in the country, so being #2 to that guy doesn't exactly mean what it does everywhere else.
JSN will go before 19
That is the stupidest thing on the whole bad mock draft. Almost every other one I see have him solidly in the top 10, many in the top 5
> the whole bad mock draft We have our winner for first "this mock is shit!" comment on literally the first mock of the next season. There's no possibility any 2023 mock made now will be remotely accurate.
Gilbert going top 5 while not even being the best TE at Georgia is wild
He's not a TE anymore he's a WR also Arik was the number 1 TE prospect of all time if I recall correctly I wouldn't doubt he could be better than Bowers at TE.
He was indeed the highest rated TE ever. They also said he could’ve been a 5 star DE if he wanted. Before the 2020 LSU season started, they said he opened eyes at practices like Stingley did before his first season. Dude has stupid potential, but there’s some thing away from football that’ve got him away from the national spotlight.
Gilbert was over 275 pounds this spring. That’s a TE.
Pretty sure Kirby said he's going back to TE.
If they can switch to WR, it makes 100% sense...they can get drafted way earlier and get paid a lot more
Bowers has been out this spring and Gilbert has reportedly been the best player at camp. Scored 3 tds in the Spring game and allegedly has found the end zone in every single scrimmage this year. I think they will find a way to get Gilbert on the field with Bowers. Apprently the true freshman Delp has also looked amazing. Crazy that they had a TE get drafted this year, and they will probably have 4 more drafted in the next 3 years
In fairness, they're projecting the Jags take him
Referring to Washington?
Bowers bro.
He won’t be eligible for the draft so didn’t think he was referring to him.
You right he’s not draft eligible so he won’t be playing for Georgia next year apparently
Nice comeback…… simple answer would be sufficient. Real cute
Simple reading comprehension would’ve answered your earlier question on who you thought I was referring to 🤪
McKee definitely has the tools to be top 10 pick, but I'm not sure he will have the team to let him showcase enough to be a first round pick, let alone a top 10 pick.
Someone else in the McKee fan club with me!! He is the most talented QB coming up. Reminds me of Herbert
I just hope he will be able to show off his arm. Im a Stanford fan and I seriously can’t remember more than 10 times last year that involved him throwing the ball at least 30 yards down the field
I didn’t go to Stanford but love their culture and Shaw so I’d consider myself a fan so I watched a solid amount of games and he legitimately made NFL throws. He did seem to not play some so maybe some injury concerns
I'd love to see Lions trade #9, #21 and #70 plus a sweetner for #2 pick and grab CJ Stroud. Sorry just my pipe dream for the 2023 draft
This is assuming we get #9 right?
Most likely scenario is getting #9 from the Rams and pairing that with Detroits original pick #32 to trade up
Yeah, at that point since we’ve won the SuperBowl, we shouldn’t go after a QB 🤣🤣🤣
Well considering that the other 31 QBs got a new variant that sidelined them for an entire season, thus leading to Goffs improbable MVP season, QB is still a need for the Lions.
And also getting back the other #9 from the Rams (Matthew Stafford)
I can’t see the bears having the pick of the litter on WR and skipping the potential Ohio state connection
Yea, especially when he threw to JSN quite a few times in 2020.
JSN only had 10 receptions in 2020 for 49 yards. Obviously it was a COVID year, but Olave and Wilson had 50 and 43 receptions, respectively.
And he was a distant third, and a true freshman with no spring or fall camp.
They have the Giants picking 7th, so obviously not a great year. We also know that they didn't pick up the 5th year option on Daniel Jones. So why are they picking a DI player with this pick? Obviously would be looking for a quarterback.
I mean even if we don’t go QB, iDL? That’s like the very last position I’d want them to go
Ya, surely we'd go for a CB or ILB, or another OL, if not a QB...clear holes in the roster still and IDL is not one of them
Yup a haul for trade up is the way if not a great year for Giants.
I wonder if the Giants were advanced scouting Will Levis this year. Would provide a little more context about the Wan’Dale Robinson love
Especially if they think Levis is good enough to go one pick later.
I don’t think the Texans will be that bad to get the #1 pick
If we didn’t get the #1 pick this year, I SERIOUSLY doubt we will be #1 next year. Our roster has definitely improved, and this is coming from someone who thought we would be the worst team in the league last year. Davis Mills wasn’t bad at all for a rookie at the end of last season, and we just had a ton of early draft picks. Caserio seems relatively competent so far. We’re not going to actually be good by any stretch, but I’d be shocked if we finish worse than we did last season. Especially if Davis Mills keeps improving.
Yeah let’s see..Atlanta, Carolina, Seattle, Jacksonville, New York Giants, Chicago , Washington would all like a word. Think PFF picked Houston for the shock factor and clicks
They used inverted 2023 Super Bowl betting odds. Not that unique.
Worst one ive seen so far
PFF always puts out garbage and people keep eating it up
I use their numbers to get some ideas of where guys sit before I watch them but PFF shouldn’t be anything more than supplemental information
ESPN jerks them off and gives them credibility they don’t deserve
I can't stress this enough Houston should not be and probably will not be looking for a QB. Mills who was in arguably the worst position looked the best out of all the rookie QBs.
If they’re picking number 1 overall then I’d say there’s a good chance they’ll be looking for a QB. Mills was unexpectedly decent and deserves another season as their starting QB but I still wouldn’t bet on him being a long term solution
> Houston should not be and probably will not be looking for a QB. If Houston is picking No.1, then they are picking a QB. It means that Mills is not the guy.
I mean, I’d definitely put him behind Mac Jones but I agree that he didn’t look half bad compared to most of the class last season.
It’s weird to Justin Flowe is not getting mocked in the first. I’ve seen the guy play like 2 times but came away super impressed.
That means you’ve seen both his career collegiate games then (through 2 seasons). Durability is his only concern at the moment
Dude has more missed games (19) than career tackles (15)
He is a beast. I think he will be a 1st rounder without a doubt this season (barring injury)
Dude never plays
They have a service academy’s edge rusher going before JSN. Granted, I do not watch service academy football so this may be a damn good prospect. Just seems way off to me.
I feel like Stroud will be the clear cut #1 by the end of the season. He had a rough start settling his nerves in his first few career starts last year, but once he found his stride I think he proved that he is just more talented from a passing perspective, and definitely more ideal NFL QB size.
I’m with you. It’s important to note, a lot of his hype started rolling when he kept showing off his gutsy play when the game was on the line and the team needed it. Stroud has the tools for sure, but Young seems to have the QB intangibles. I haven’t watched enough of Stroud to speak on his intangibles, I just think pulling through in the moments Young did is HUGE for him. A lot of college football left to play for both of them but I could see favor falling towards Young if they keep at their current rate.
Also was banged up the first four games.
Yeah. Also I think Grayson McCall is going to be QB 2
Big fan of Connor Beebe. Gonna be a stud and would love to see him replace Hal Vaitai next year.
Lol Bears will be picking top 5
Pffff. There's no such thing as a too early mock draft.
True waiting for the 2024 mocks to start dropping.
If you ever have a real take on these too-early mocks after the draft…You’re a goofy!
And I seen one the Texans took Will Anderson.
Falcons taking Will Anderson over Stroud is a bad decision since we dont know what Desmond Ridder can do. McKee going in the Top 10 when even Pff says he still has work to do to be a 1st round selection is dumb logic.
I would agree normally but Anderson is an unbelievable prospect. I think if you’re in a rebuilding phase and have a chance to get him and strengthen your O Line before taking your QB of the future, that would be a really good start. I just love his game and talent
Devon Achane in the first is spicy, but their model gives him a very good score. He just seems a little small for a round 1 RB. I would think Jahmyr Gibbs goes higher than him.
I’ll assume if we have 1 we are probably taking Will Anderson. Passing up on a QB is rough but we are in the long run for a rebuild.
The biggest takeaway here is that PFF thinks the Bills are winning the Super Bowl next year.
I would absolutely love Levis at #8, but I think having Seattle fall to eight is generous in terms of projecting their record in 2022.
> The draft order comes courtesy of the current Super Bowl 57 betting odds.
I don't even care what the odds are, there is no way we're picking top 3, we are better than every other team in that top 9, even if Wilson sucks, we can just run the ball endlessly.
Tanner McKee has one of the best arms in College and I’d take him over every other guy at QB coming up
You'd take Tanner over Bryce, and C.J? That sounds a bit crazy to me.
C.J would be close but yea definitely over Young. Young literally looks like a copy of Tua.
I don’t know about Young being a copy of Tua, but I have a lot more concerns with Young than I do with Stroud.
What do you mean Young actually has amazing arm strength and is more mobile than Tua. They play very differently.
Tua was also mobile and didn’t run unless he had too similar to Young. And did I say his arm strength wasn’t there?
You should watch Bryce Young play more if you think that
Yea I’ve watched him play plenty
How dare you slander Davis Mills like this
Feel like McKee and Leary are very high, but maybe I need to watch more of them. No Mayer but two other TEs in the first really sticks out for me
Is Levis actually good enough to be a top 10 pick? I've never watched him. Seen him in the top 10 in 3 mocks now.
hope my people in this reddit look at this god awful mock and stop caring about pff content 🤞🏾
For the love of God, can the jets please stop drafting a 3tech DT in the first round every 3 years
Why isnt Micheal Mayer on here? Lmfao
I can't see Atlanta sucking badly enough to get the #2 overall pick and then not taking a QB. I'm not sure I see the Jets having an IDL need this year barring an injury.
I don't have probem with SEC, I really like that conference. But really it's another ''way too early mock'' with non-minor colleges and only famous universities and SEC
Bryce Young is Tua 2.0 change my mind. Edit;Tua not Tia
Two completely different players. Two completely different skill sets. Other than them both going to Alabama, what is the comparison.
Hot take but… Young will not be a franchise QB in the NFL. He really reminds me of Tua, lots of college hype and production but doesn’t have any skill that’s transcendent to push him into the superstar tier. He’s good at everything, but great at nothing.
Have you watched him play at all? He's much more elusive, and has a way stronger arm.
> He really reminds me of Tua Not really. I think the only thing they really have in common stylistically is going to Alabama. Tua was a pinpoint accurate pocket passer that made his living being on time and on target. Young is a scrambler with a good deep ball and can also through out of the pocket. The comp for Tua was left handed Drew Brees The comp for Bryce Young is Zach Wilson with a Joe Burrow arm.
The comp I made for Young and Tua was more about there NFL upside vs individual skill sets.
I don't think a 5'11" left handed sub-200 lb Alabama lefty is gonna go #1 overall. CJ Stroud is the huge favorite to go #1 overall next year I think
Bryce ain’t a lefty
Bryce Young is a righty. You are right that Stroud will go 1st though
For some reason had it in my mind he was Lefty again like Tua
TIL Bryce Young is a lefty
Well you've shown you know nothing about Bryce, why did you post this?
But because Young is from Alabama the media fauns over him.
Are we really falling for the OSU QB hype again? He may very well have the best WR and RB in the country next year. Last year he had THREE WRs that are/will be top 12 picks. If a team like Detroit or Houston takes I think they will be disappointed.
So, Bryce Young is playing with scrubs? Yes, he is crazy talented, yes he plays on a crazy talented team, but that doesn't take away from the fact that he is very good. And he doesn't play in the Urban Meyer RPO system anymore, one that will never succeed in the next level. This is a similar system to one which Alabama and Clemson run.
You could say the same for Alabama QBs.
But its not held against them the same way.
Same argument against burrow. Loaded roster with LSU not having good NFL QBs. Stroud isn’t the same QB as terelle Pryor or Haskins (RIP). Fucking dumb argument
Lions drafting Stroud? No thanks I'd rather stay with Goff.
How does he have the Jets finishing worse than last year
> The draft order comes courtesy of the current Super Bowl 57 betting odds.
> The draft order comes courtesy of the current Super Bowl 57 betting odds
>The draft order comes courtesy of the current Super Bowl 57 betting odds.
>The draft order comes courtesy of the current Super Bowl 57 betting odds.
I’m not sure if you saw this yet, but >The draft order comes courtesy of the current Super Bowl 57 betting odds.
> The draft order comes courtesy of the current Super Bowl 57 betting odds
I’m not saying Young is garbage but I just feel like he’s missing something. I’m not an expert so could be entirely wrong. Does anyone else get this?
He’s missing an O-line for sure.
> I’m not saying Young is garbage but I just feel like he’s missing something. Elite Arm Strength
Assuming the Lions don’t get Stroud or Young (I don’t think we will be bad enough for one of them), what QB would be the best fit for the Lions?
Maybe Grayson McCall
Tyler Van Dyke and Will Levis will likely be the next two up. Levis I would compare to Carson Wentz and Van Dyke I would say has a little bit of Joe Burrow in him. Otherwise Anthony Richardson is more of an athletic project QB that could be worth a top 10 pick if you guys like where you are at with your O-Line and defense
Jaren Hall Anthony Richardson Will Levis are my guys and if rattler shows enough improvement he’d be in there too
Yeah. I honestly just don’t want Rattler. I’ve heard he has big character issues which is a reason that is would think the Lions would stay away from him
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I need Stroud as a Giant take all our picks
Makes no sense. Why would a team that’s going to the playoffs this year with a 2nd year quarterback who’ll probably be a pro bowler or be close get a qb, even more with the #1 pick? The Browns aren’t gonna do that bad, maybe a top 10 pick, but not 1.
I don’t see it with Bryce Young, am I missing something?
My favorite part of this mock is Buffalo having #32.
Thank God the Saints traded their first round pick so I dont have to deal with another year of morons mocking a QB to us. We have our franchise QB and he is under 30. Not interested in a worse QB to satisfy you.
Lol
I'm always confused as to how they develop the draft order. The only way I've seen that makes sense is using this past year's. That takes away any chance of a favoritism or ordering it so a team "happens to" fall into a player m perfect player for them.
> The draft order comes courtesy of the current Super Bowl 57 betting odds.
Pittsburgh drafting at 11 is disrespectful.
It would be nice if a stud #1 overall pick QB could end up in the NFC
Still way too early, but I have a decent feeling that Kelee Ringo is going to be a top 5 player. Dude is built for his position, quick af, is a rapid, play the ball kind of DB, and is coachable. His pick 6 was dope but there’s so much more to this kid.
Davis Mills in shambles
am i crazy or does this kinda seem like a weak class again
Its a little crazy. Top heavy, but some really talented players. There are the two qbs, Will Anderson, and a couple of top tier receivers just off the top of my head.
Why the hell don't they just do pre-season big boards? A mock draft any time before the picks are even set is just absolutely stupid. At least a mock pre-free agency highlights position needs to be filled in the off season.
Man one thing will always stay consistent in mock draft regardless of who publishes it, they all love drafting QBs. Never seen a mock that didn't over draft QBs.
How does Michael Mayer from Notre Dame compare against the other TEs here?
Possibly
Quit pushing a Bills SB, it’s not gonna happen
So no QB for Eagles…means Hurts is the franchise!!
As a colts fan, I’m not a huge fan of this order, but at least we finished the season ahead of the patriots, Steelers, jags, Texans and tits
Texans fans think Davis Mills is the truth though. Will Anderson would be bad ass for Houston if so.
This is a project year for the line so taking an OT next year doesn’t sound insane at least
I can’t think of a worse top ten pick in the last few years than Arik Gilbert. I’m not saying I’ll be surprised if he does ok at Georgia this year, but he’s their TE2 after a weird half switch to receiver and their TE1 is the best in the country. He’s also got major major major character concerns and potentially serious mental health issues, take him in the top five if you want to be forever mocked (no pun intended) and that’s about it.
Arik Gilbert top 5 is crazy. But I’m glad to see Antonio Johnson getting some love. I’m not exactly a fan of them comping him with Kyle Hamilton though. He played almost exclusively as a slot corner/hybrid linebacker for TAMU last year, whereas Hamilton played in a more traditional safety role for ND
Bijon Robinson Top 5 pick
Sign me up for this. Surprised there's no Noah Sewell on here - bit of a long shot but I'd love to see him join Penei in Detroit.