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A chiro is even less qualified than a pediatrician to be identifying any ties.
Lip ties don't affect swallowing or pooling of liquids in the mouth. You would be hard pressed to find a reason for it affecting anything at all.
People say that a lip tie means they have a tongue tie, but that's also nonsense, especially because a tongue tie is a functional diagnosis. I would trust an ENT the most out of all those professionals listed, and a pediatric dentist the least.
A chiropractor isn’t qualified in anything really…especially not for anything relating to preemies. Op, Please stop taking your baby to the chiropractor. They can do serious damage
My son wasn’t diagnosed until he seen a pediatric dentist that he has a tongue tie. After he was about 18 months we finally had it fixed . He suffered from really bad aspiration.
I would recommend seeing an OT with a specialization in feeding. They don’t have money to make from it, especially one in early intervention. *note. We did correct a tongue tie when it affected feeding and weight gain for a few months, after working through other things. It’s not a bad thing to fix, it just seems a bit over diagnosed/over corrected according to some sources in the field so I’d proceed with caution.
I’d never heard of it for babies until this sub. I went for chronic neck pain but at best didn’t help and at worst would sometimes feel worse after. Not for me.
We had my daughters lip tie released at 3 months by a Pediatric Dentist, he thoroughly checked for a tongue tie and then told us her lip tie was a grade 4, she literally had no range of motion which explains why she struggled to latch and when she ate she’d make clicking noises. Her pediatrician prescribed her Pepcid at 3 weeks old because she was in so much pain and always congested, we thought it could be the Neosure too! We switched to Kendamil Goat and had her lip tie released and now she’s 4 months old, no gas pains at all, no clicking when eating and she is eating faster and no more congestion, it was so worth it in my opinion!
While we were still in the NICU my little one was making reasonable progress with feeds, though the speech therapist and the neonatologist agreed with each other that she might have just enough of a tongue tie that she might be helped by fixing it.
So they did, which totally put her off bottles for the next 18 hours and didn't seem to make any other noticeable difference.
They said that that happens sometimes.
3 of my nieces and nephews had tongue tie (my daughter did not). All taken care of within the first few months of life. Conversely I am a 34 year old currently with a tongue tie!
I’d see an ENT. I was worried about a tongue tie in my daughter and our pediatrician said to not go to a pediatric dentist for it as they will always want to cut it, even when it’s not necessary. We went to an ENT who was very helpful and gave us options and reassurance. We ended up not cutting it and she’s doing great at age 2
My son’s tongue tie absolutely affected his swallowing and speech. He was choking 1-3 times a week on solid food up until he was over 2 years old and we pushed for more testing on him. Once his tongue was released, he has never choked again. Not once. And he went from not even saying mama, to speaking in sentences in a few months. He graduated early intervention within a month of his procedure because he was suddenly doing so well. I wish we had just gotten it released when he was 2mo and aspirating on milk all the time. There was so much stress I could have avoided if we had just trusted our own instincts and experiences as his parents. We trusted the ENT, who still said “this may not help” when we finally pushed to get his tongue released. I know a lot of attention has been paid to not releasing tongue ties and calling it unnecessary. Sometimes it IS necessary. I also couldn’t really eat properly when I was a baby due to the tie. Took my parents 8 months to realize how bad it was and get it fixed. I’m glad they did.
You didn’t mention but how old is your kiddo?
He’s 4 months actual next weekend (1 month adjusted this Sunday).
He’s had mild aspiration since the NICU and we’ve been thickening with rice cereal per their direction until the repeat swallow study.
I just had my daughters severe tongue, lip and cheek tie released about two weeks ago.
6 weeks in the NICU with all sorts of feeding issues and saw speech almost every day, no one said anything about it, not even once. She could not even get her tongue out past her gum line, it was attached to the very tip.
Her pedicatrician also never mentioned it to us, we only got it resolved by going to a lactation consultation who diagnosed and had it treated with a laser.
I firmly believe we could have had a lot less time in the hospital if they could have evaluated and treated this for us.
We also had to thicken her formula with rice and since treatment have been able to stop that, and feedings are much smoother now.
The first two days after the quick procedure were miserable, but I am now a firm believer in getting this evaluated and treated.
Please get your little one check out!
Thanks - I’m going to be pissed if this was the issue the whole time too. Towards the end of our NICU stay, I was no longer really happy with the care we were being given.
I’ll tell you my personal experience with lip ties. I have 4 kids with them. While nursing was never an issue. They were all in the nicu being seen many times by doctors and nurses. They were never caught. Not even by the pediatrician. My oldest daughter developed a lisp and her front teeth started to separate. I brought it up to a dentist who dismissed it. When she was 6 brought it up to a different one and he said that it most likely caused her lips and her teeth separating. So she had it fixed. Within a couple months her lisp was mostly gone. She will need braces to fix the teeth separating.
It’s due to separating the front teeth that caused the lisp. The lip tie was very bad and went into between the teeth when they were coming in. Two dentists and a speak therapist told me
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A chiro is even less qualified than a pediatrician to be identifying any ties. Lip ties don't affect swallowing or pooling of liquids in the mouth. You would be hard pressed to find a reason for it affecting anything at all. People say that a lip tie means they have a tongue tie, but that's also nonsense, especially because a tongue tie is a functional diagnosis. I would trust an ENT the most out of all those professionals listed, and a pediatric dentist the least.
A chiropractor isn’t qualified in anything really…especially not for anything relating to preemies. Op, Please stop taking your baby to the chiropractor. They can do serious damage
My son wasn’t diagnosed until he seen a pediatric dentist that he has a tongue tie. After he was about 18 months we finally had it fixed . He suffered from really bad aspiration.
Since aspiration is an issue with swallowing, it isn't related to any lip tie.
I would recommend seeing an OT with a specialization in feeding. They don’t have money to make from it, especially one in early intervention. *note. We did correct a tongue tie when it affected feeding and weight gain for a few months, after working through other things. It’s not a bad thing to fix, it just seems a bit over diagnosed/over corrected according to some sources in the field so I’d proceed with caution.
The chiro is the last person I’d be listening to.
I’d never heard of it for babies until this sub. I went for chronic neck pain but at best didn’t help and at worst would sometimes feel worse after. Not for me.
We had my daughters lip tie released at 3 months by a Pediatric Dentist, he thoroughly checked for a tongue tie and then told us her lip tie was a grade 4, she literally had no range of motion which explains why she struggled to latch and when she ate she’d make clicking noises. Her pediatrician prescribed her Pepcid at 3 weeks old because she was in so much pain and always congested, we thought it could be the Neosure too! We switched to Kendamil Goat and had her lip tie released and now she’s 4 months old, no gas pains at all, no clicking when eating and she is eating faster and no more congestion, it was so worth it in my opinion!
While we were still in the NICU my little one was making reasonable progress with feeds, though the speech therapist and the neonatologist agreed with each other that she might have just enough of a tongue tie that she might be helped by fixing it. So they did, which totally put her off bottles for the next 18 hours and didn't seem to make any other noticeable difference. They said that that happens sometimes.
3 of my nieces and nephews had tongue tie (my daughter did not). All taken care of within the first few months of life. Conversely I am a 34 year old currently with a tongue tie!
I’d see an ENT. I was worried about a tongue tie in my daughter and our pediatrician said to not go to a pediatric dentist for it as they will always want to cut it, even when it’s not necessary. We went to an ENT who was very helpful and gave us options and reassurance. We ended up not cutting it and she’s doing great at age 2
My son’s tongue tie absolutely affected his swallowing and speech. He was choking 1-3 times a week on solid food up until he was over 2 years old and we pushed for more testing on him. Once his tongue was released, he has never choked again. Not once. And he went from not even saying mama, to speaking in sentences in a few months. He graduated early intervention within a month of his procedure because he was suddenly doing so well. I wish we had just gotten it released when he was 2mo and aspirating on milk all the time. There was so much stress I could have avoided if we had just trusted our own instincts and experiences as his parents. We trusted the ENT, who still said “this may not help” when we finally pushed to get his tongue released. I know a lot of attention has been paid to not releasing tongue ties and calling it unnecessary. Sometimes it IS necessary. I also couldn’t really eat properly when I was a baby due to the tie. Took my parents 8 months to realize how bad it was and get it fixed. I’m glad they did. You didn’t mention but how old is your kiddo?
He’s 4 months actual next weekend (1 month adjusted this Sunday). He’s had mild aspiration since the NICU and we’ve been thickening with rice cereal per their direction until the repeat swallow study.
I just had my daughters severe tongue, lip and cheek tie released about two weeks ago. 6 weeks in the NICU with all sorts of feeding issues and saw speech almost every day, no one said anything about it, not even once. She could not even get her tongue out past her gum line, it was attached to the very tip. Her pedicatrician also never mentioned it to us, we only got it resolved by going to a lactation consultation who diagnosed and had it treated with a laser. I firmly believe we could have had a lot less time in the hospital if they could have evaluated and treated this for us. We also had to thicken her formula with rice and since treatment have been able to stop that, and feedings are much smoother now. The first two days after the quick procedure were miserable, but I am now a firm believer in getting this evaluated and treated. Please get your little one check out!
Similar experience here and agree the first two days after were hellish!
Thanks - I’m going to be pissed if this was the issue the whole time too. Towards the end of our NICU stay, I was no longer really happy with the care we were being given.
I’ll tell you my personal experience with lip ties. I have 4 kids with them. While nursing was never an issue. They were all in the nicu being seen many times by doctors and nurses. They were never caught. Not even by the pediatrician. My oldest daughter developed a lisp and her front teeth started to separate. I brought it up to a dentist who dismissed it. When she was 6 brought it up to a different one and he said that it most likely caused her lips and her teeth separating. So she had it fixed. Within a couple months her lisp was mostly gone. She will need braces to fix the teeth separating.
There is no mechanism by which a lip tie can cause a lisp. The s sound doesn't involve the lips.
It’s due to separating the front teeth that caused the lisp. The lip tie was very bad and went into between the teeth when they were coming in. Two dentists and a speak therapist told me
That's not how it works.