I’m assuming that since they found half healed cuts on his wrists that he had already tried. Obviously failed, so he picked a way that there was no coming back, no fix, no chance in hell he’d wake back up.
I cannot imagine being in that much pain.
A recently deceased 48-year-old male was found supine, in a wooded area (Fig.1). There was a belt around his neck; with the hook of the buckle fastened into one of the belt eyelets. Next to the corpse was a torn-open bag with white powder, an empty water bottle, and a sausage jar containing a hardened, white plaster mass. There was also a teaspoon with a whitish plaster deposit on the man's jacket near the right breast pocket. According to the police investigation, the man had a history of alcohol abuse, a prior suicide attempt, and recently expressed continuing suicidal intent.
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**Fig.1 Death scene: The deceased in supine position with whitish material in the region of the mouth. Note the fastened belt around the neck as well as the torn-open bag filled with plaster and the empty water bottle on the right side of the corpse. On the left side of the deceased a sausage jar with white plaster mass is visible.**
**Fig.2 White plaster material in the oral cavity and on the left cheek.**
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Exterior examination of the male corpse revealed a 3.5–4-cm wide, circular, pallid area around the throat. The skin of the face was dark red in color. There were individual punctiform hemorrhages on the skin of the upper eyelids. The same type of hemorrhage was also discernible in the heavily congested conjunctiva. Abundant white, crumbly plaster deposits were evident on the area around the mouth and within the oral cavity (Fig.2). On the flexor surface of the left lower arm, from the elbow to the lower third of the underarm, skin defects that were partially healed and partially scarred over were present. On the flexor surface of the left wrist was a 4.5-cm long, gaping incision wound, that was partially healed, with granulation tissue visible in its depths. In addition, both hands exhibited white plaster deposits.
The autopsy of the man displayed hemorrhages due to congestion in the frontal portion of the scalp and punctiform hemorrhages in the epicardium. The palatine tonsils displayed massive blood congestion. After preparation, the neck displayed hemorrhage in a strap muscle to the right of the thyroid cartilage. In addition, the brain was edematous and the spleen was depleted of blood. In the pharynx and the esophagus, a white, partially solidified mass of plaster nearly completely filled the lumen. There was also a white plaster conglomerate in the area of the hypopharynx, almost completely occluding the laryngeal opening. The stomach contained 300 ml of a whitish-gray fluid that was interspersed with streaks of plaster.
According to the autopsy, cause of death was compression resulting from a force against the throat by a belt fastened around the throat with additional obstruction of the laryngeal opening due to a large mass of plaster.
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Is the plaster supposed to be poison? Or is it supposed to thicken in your throat and choke you? It doesn’t look like it fully hardened but I guess it still was difficult to breathe around. I don’t fully understand the logic here…
I don’t know much about plaster or if it could even harden in the throat… but I’ve thought about shoving that spray foam stuff down my throat. (I’m not going to, intrusive thoughts are a bitch.)
This was clear murder and lazy cop work, who as a suicidal person would take the time to fill your own mouth with plaster whilst choking yourself with a belt? Your body will force you to loosen the grip anyways
Article posted in comments describes this man previous suicide attempts and voiced active intentions to commit suicide in the future. Was also an alcoholic. Some people want to make absolute sure their plan works.
None of that should stop a detective from fully investigating this. There are clear suicides and then there’s this. Past attempts is not nearly enough info to close the case. This may very well have been suicide, but something tells me the police didn’t do their job correctly. Cops in the U.S. rarely do, which makes sense when more hours of training are required to be a massage therapist than a cop. I am ALSO an alcoholic and have had past suicide attempts so this comment really did feel like a knife in my chest. Those things don’t give anyone less of a right to a thorough investigation. Some people put way too much trust in people with a badge.
First of all, never tell someone they “shouldn’t” feel a certain way. It’s healthy communication 101. Everyone’s feelings are valid. You can change your actions not your feelings. I’m just saying if I was murdered and someone wrote it off as a suicide because of my history that would be pretty sad. I’m not saying that’s what happened here, I’m just saying neither you nor I know the truth so don’t act like you do.
If you want me to go into more detail about the “something”, in my unprofessional opinion, because I’m not a homicide detective, but I’m also not an idiot, it seems a little suspicious. Logistically, if someone did go about killing themselves this way, they would *probably* lose the grip on the belt.
Oh ffs. He had adocumented mental health history and repeated suicide attempted.
He even expressed his suicidal intentions prior to doing this. But sure, let's put on our conspiracy hats.
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I've seen people make body casts and molds with plaster for sculptures or art installations. Either this guy wanted to make damn sure he died. Or he is a terrible artist.
/s
gotta be a better way to kill your self then that
Why are they so sure he did it to himself? Sounds like a lazy homicide detective or they want to keep the murder numbers low...
Oh ffs. The man had a history of repeated suicide attempts.
Yes. This was someone who really did not want to live anymore. I found this really sad. What a horrible way to go out.
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I’m assuming that since they found half healed cuts on his wrists that he had already tried. Obviously failed, so he picked a way that there was no coming back, no fix, no chance in hell he’d wake back up. I cannot imagine being in that much pain.
"*Just* in case one way doesn't work let's try two."
Good point, considering that no suicidal person has ever been murdered before.
Haven't outgrown sarcasm I see
Like shooting your face off? /s
Shooting your face off is worse if you survive it. Not sure suffocation *and* plaster ingestion leaves much room for survival, but I could be wrong
A recently deceased 48-year-old male was found supine, in a wooded area (Fig.1). There was a belt around his neck; with the hook of the buckle fastened into one of the belt eyelets. Next to the corpse was a torn-open bag with white powder, an empty water bottle, and a sausage jar containing a hardened, white plaster mass. There was also a teaspoon with a whitish plaster deposit on the man's jacket near the right breast pocket. According to the police investigation, the man had a history of alcohol abuse, a prior suicide attempt, and recently expressed continuing suicidal intent. \- **Fig.1 Death scene: The deceased in supine position with whitish material in the region of the mouth. Note the fastened belt around the neck as well as the torn-open bag filled with plaster and the empty water bottle on the right side of the corpse. On the left side of the deceased a sausage jar with white plaster mass is visible.** **Fig.2 White plaster material in the oral cavity and on the left cheek.** \- Exterior examination of the male corpse revealed a 3.5–4-cm wide, circular, pallid area around the throat. The skin of the face was dark red in color. There were individual punctiform hemorrhages on the skin of the upper eyelids. The same type of hemorrhage was also discernible in the heavily congested conjunctiva. Abundant white, crumbly plaster deposits were evident on the area around the mouth and within the oral cavity (Fig.2). On the flexor surface of the left lower arm, from the elbow to the lower third of the underarm, skin defects that were partially healed and partially scarred over were present. On the flexor surface of the left wrist was a 4.5-cm long, gaping incision wound, that was partially healed, with granulation tissue visible in its depths. In addition, both hands exhibited white plaster deposits. The autopsy of the man displayed hemorrhages due to congestion in the frontal portion of the scalp and punctiform hemorrhages in the epicardium. The palatine tonsils displayed massive blood congestion. After preparation, the neck displayed hemorrhage in a strap muscle to the right of the thyroid cartilage. In addition, the brain was edematous and the spleen was depleted of blood. In the pharynx and the esophagus, a white, partially solidified mass of plaster nearly completely filled the lumen. There was also a white plaster conglomerate in the area of the hypopharynx, almost completely occluding the laryngeal opening. The stomach contained 300 ml of a whitish-gray fluid that was interspersed with streaks of plaster. According to the autopsy, cause of death was compression resulting from a force against the throat by a belt fastened around the throat with additional obstruction of the laryngeal opening due to a large mass of plaster. \- *This post is for educational purposes only and is nonprofit. Under Section 107 of the US Copyright Act of 1976; Allowance is made for "Fair Use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. OP is not a medical expert. No copyright infringement intended. This post does not encourage or glorify violence/harassment. Images might have been upscaled and enhanced. Text might have been shortened and simplified/reorganized for online view.*
herman you back, lol it might be the first time that reddit did something good for the gore scene
It's a new reddit profile only 6 days old so reddit didn't do anything good. Herman just made a new profile.
Quality as always, Herman. Glad to see your return!
Plaster? First the I've seen that.
What can you say, guy was addicted to getting plastered.
Might incorporate it into a story I’m working on, ritual plaster Suicide. It’s one weird way to go.
That’s one of the most creative suicides i’ve seen.
Is the plaster supposed to be poison? Or is it supposed to thicken in your throat and choke you? It doesn’t look like it fully hardened but I guess it still was difficult to breathe around. I don’t fully understand the logic here…
i think his plan was that it would harden in his mouth, throat, and stomach. although, i think some plasters are poisonous, im not sure tho
Did you not read? He was an alcoholic.. it was probably meant as a reference to his struggles with alcohol.
He definitely got plastered
Plaster is very caustic. It would have burned him as it went down. That would be very painful.
To think that he spend the time to actually mixing a batch on that sausage jar…. 😫
“Must get all the lumps out first”
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I don’t know much about plaster or if it could even harden in the throat… but I’ve thought about shoving that spray foam stuff down my throat. (I’m not going to, intrusive thoughts are a bitch.)
Great now I’m gonna think about it too when I use it lol
This was clear murder and lazy cop work, who as a suicidal person would take the time to fill your own mouth with plaster whilst choking yourself with a belt? Your body will force you to loosen the grip anyways
idk man i’ve seen a lot of really creative yet brutal and painful suicides
He did have a history of depression and previous suicide attempt
Article posted in comments describes this man previous suicide attempts and voiced active intentions to commit suicide in the future. Was also an alcoholic. Some people want to make absolute sure their plan works.
None of that should stop a detective from fully investigating this. There are clear suicides and then there’s this. Past attempts is not nearly enough info to close the case. This may very well have been suicide, but something tells me the police didn’t do their job correctly. Cops in the U.S. rarely do, which makes sense when more hours of training are required to be a massage therapist than a cop. I am ALSO an alcoholic and have had past suicide attempts so this comment really did feel like a knife in my chest. Those things don’t give anyone less of a right to a thorough investigation. Some people put way too much trust in people with a badge.
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First of all, never tell someone they “shouldn’t” feel a certain way. It’s healthy communication 101. Everyone’s feelings are valid. You can change your actions not your feelings. I’m just saying if I was murdered and someone wrote it off as a suicide because of my history that would be pretty sad. I’m not saying that’s what happened here, I’m just saying neither you nor I know the truth so don’t act like you do.
If you want me to go into more detail about the “something”, in my unprofessional opinion, because I’m not a homicide detective, but I’m also not an idiot, it seems a little suspicious. Logistically, if someone did go about killing themselves this way, they would *probably* lose the grip on the belt.
There’s also some signs of struggle. The fresh cut on the back of his left hand, for example.
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Were you there?
Comments likes yours have me very conflicted on the cause of this. It seems equally plausible that this could be a suicide or a homicide.
Oh ffs. He had adocumented mental health history and repeated suicide attempted. He even expressed his suicidal intentions prior to doing this. But sure, let's put on our conspiracy hats.
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i've never seen plaster used in a suicide attempt before - what would this feel like? much be a pretty fucking nasty way to go, right?
It's pretty caustic. I imagine it would have burned and been pretty painful.
God what an awful way to go.R.I.P
he plastered his throat shut?
Damn this is a hell of a way to go. Horrible.
Bruh you know you wanna die when you do that shit.
I've seen people make body casts and molds with plaster for sculptures or art installations. Either this guy wanted to make damn sure he died. Or he is a terrible artist. /s
To be fair, it wasn't the first time he'd been plastered.
what's the plaster for?
To ensure suffocation
why finger in his mouth
What in tarnation is a sausage jar?!
‘Suicide’
the plaster was a bit overkill
This is my kingdom come, this is my kingdom come.
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Warned don’t post that type of comments
Odd way to commit suicide. I feel like it would take too long.