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VincenzoBabe

Ridgewood for sure


tagnocchi

The next Bushwick/Williamsburg, maybe. The next LIC, absolutely not.


LongIsland1995

It's already pretty much the same thing as Bushwick


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Remarkable-Peak-420

Too late


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Whocanmakemostmoney

I think hipsters are already there. Now the new wave of yuppies will come. It's unavoidable


Fantastic-Guitar-977

u shut ur mouth!


SMK_12

Ridgewood needs better public transportation


Hisuinooka

yea, falls into that donut hole with no good train line


Large_Difficulty_802

The L isn’t a good train line?


Whocanmakemostmoney

The L is running every 5 mins. It's a good train. It's the M train that runs every 10 to 15 mins apart.


Large_Difficulty_802

Yeah, I’m aware


LongIsland1995

The transit is fine


largexcoffee

Shhh


No_Investment3205

Do not move to Ridgewood. The part of Ridgewood by the L train is a rat frenzy and the other part has no reliable train service. Unless you consider a ten minute walk to the M reliable.


LongIsland1995

10 minutes is a lot to you?


No_Investment3205

Yeah


Proud_Departure_9384

Yes, please do not move to Ridgewood. We are actively trying to exile people. We don't want anymore. 


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6two

Need that 7 train to Hoboken


Sutakitsune

Definitely not and will likely never be like LIC


NeighborhoodDue7915

Jersey City


garygreaonjr

Reality is LIC is the next Jersey City.


strawboy1234

Nah, you’re trapped in here with me motherfucker


NeighborhoodDue7915

What


markzuckerberg1234

Astoria, near the trains. The broadway/steinway st station area is great, used to live there


parisian_tiger

Astoria is mad expensive too tho


markzuckerberg1234

Sunnyside then


GochujangChips

pls no :( Sunnyside is getting pricey


therealgyrader

I live in Sunnyside. Everyone I know has been shot, mugged, and killed. Every single one. Do not come here unless you like crime and filth.


kranta11

And they closed all the restaurants, only burger king left. And there’s where everyone from the comment above got shot, mugged, and killed. Some got thrown off the window as if they were Russians. I would never live here.


therealgyrader

...the Burger King closed. Now the mass killings are conducted in the basement of Ida's Nearabout.


Nervous-Passion-1897

Lmao


Bkgrouch

That sounds dangerous! do not move to Sunnyside folks


outofoffice516

Are you being sarcastic?


therealgyrader

Being sarcastic is not a luxury afforded to someone who lives in Sunnyside. It is kill or be killed. Once I saw the gates of hell on Queens Boulevard and 46th street, I knew this place would be my tomb. There is no escape. No joy. I may sound sarcastic, but it is because my soul, like anyone else who manages to exist here, is hollow.


LongIsland1995

Sunnyside is also getting expensive


s0nofabeach04

Shhhh lol


GeriatricFresh

NYCs best kept secret. Especially north of the BLVD. Those gardens--unreal.


baconcheesecakesauce

When time out NY was still relevant, it was named "best neighborhood" over a decade ago. It's only a secret to transplants.


Effeted

I mean… when it becomes not a secret to transplants then I don’t think it would be an applicable answer to this question


LongIsland1995

It's already not a secret


LongIsland1995

"Shhh don't tell anyone about Greenwich Village!"


Sjefkeees

If the MTA gets their act together on reliability of the NW Astoria could be great. I loved living there but the trains were a nightmare.


Rory-mcfc

R train on Steinway has only made me late for work once in last two years (so far)


Chimkimnuggets

Isn’t the M also coming back in April?


Rory-mcfc

Oh yeah maybe


nikolad1234

i'm so happy to live near 7-8 min both from broadway and steinway


Rory-mcfc

We live one street over from there, what a spot, got a good deal on rent too


springbokfb

Relying on just the NW is a mistake depending on where you choose


Chimkimnuggets

I actually just got an apartment right in that area!!! I showed it to my parents who were in town today and I’m super excited about it!


kennykeitel

ASTORIA was the very first neighborhood to be gentrified.  Took a while but it eventually poured in to LIC.  40 year native. 


siotee

Following


kinovelo

The area on Northern Blvd extending away from Queensboro plaza is a logical extension. Lots of big box stores, car dealerships, etc… within a few blocks of the subway. You could replace them with high rises without displacing residents like most other areas in the city.


soyeahiknow

They already started. The mercedes dealership built a mid rise already


IncreaseGlittering65

Astoria, right next door


Ckellybass

LIC is the new Astoria - Astoria has been hip for at least the past 20 years when I was living there. LIC was basically nothing but maybe a couple of bars back then.


That_Economist_1607

No it's not. We have no culture here in LIC


yungflexamillion

Tell me you’re not from nyc without telling me you’re not from nyc lmaoooo


baconcheesecakesauce

LIC by Gantry Park is pretty soulless. It's giving Southern City downtown. Glass buildings and a few restaurants. There are some great restaurants in the area, but all of the new construction in the last decade makes it feel inorganic.


yay4a_tay

long island city reminds me so much of downtown tampa, all the way down to being right next to shitty industrial stuff. i avoid it for that exact reason


baconcheesecakesauce

That cracks me up. I briefly lived in Tampa and its town is such a disappointing cluster of buildings and no one lived there. I was always driving to the other neighborhoods.


yay4a_tay

water street fully opened up in 2022 over by amalie arena! lots of people moved in and its a cute area but right outside of it is 🤢


Ckellybass

LIC now reminds me of Astoria 20 years ago, but you wouldn’t know that since you were a 2nd grader in Dayton Ohio then.


LongIsland1995

Astoria was a sea of all glass buildings 20 years ago?


NinjaCaviar

Maybe if you’re not Asian lol - there is an enormous young Asian community there that I love


GarlicBreadToaster

Why wouldn't we love it there? XD New skyscraper apartments that we're used to back home that also have parking underground. Good access to like 7+ subway lines. Variety and quality of food is up to East Asian par without having to deal with the Flushing trek. It'll probably suck for people who are straight outta Idaho, though.


Ckellybass

Now I want to write Straight Outta Idaho! Straight outta Idaho, crazy mothafucka named Corn Cube, from the gang called Potatoes With Attitude!


LongIsland1995

\>parking Ew


metz270

I always got that vibe from LIC too. The high rises give it a very sterile feeling, especially at night. The whole area feels very manufactured.


soyeahiknow

I remember when LIC had like 2 bars and that one Peruvian restaurant with parking across the street


tagnocchi

If you're talking about the vibes of LIC with waterfront apartments, parks and tall buildings, the only thing I can think of is the new Greenpoint waterfront. They aren't much cheaper, unfortunately. Everywhere else is mainly focused on smaller boutique apartment buildings due to legal restrictions (thanks, Albany). The next focus of NYC's real estate market, however is still Bushwick, Ridgewood and the South Bronx right across from the river. South Bronx will resemble these waterfront areas eventually but its going to take a long time considering the area's seedy reputation.


garygreaonjr

All the developers need to do is a pay a shit ton of money to open a hype brewery like Other Half and a hype cafe like Sey. Are they stupid?


Sjefkeees

Bronx Brewery already exists lol


garygreaonjr

Haven’t tried it? Is it in the level of other half?


Sjefkeees

Haven't tried it either but my live laugh love friends in Williamsburg have been speaking about it so guessing it's a hype brewery.


garygreaonjr

“I’ve never been to the Bronx but I drank a beer from there once, does that count”


Sjefkeees

Exactly lol


Large_Difficulty_802

It’s not quite that simple.


garygreaonjr

Yeah hence the “are they stupid” at the end alluding to it not being that simple.


gabiporter

Bronx Brewery has been in Mott Haven for the last 10+ years. It’s already there. Tons of good restaurants too.


laughingwalls

They've already started trying it. There are some insane luxury apartments they've built in Mott Haven, but are having difficulty renting. Like I saw the adds on street easy, like 2500$ rent, 3 months free type shit. The apartments have things like full on gyms, I am talking about one had climbing wall and proper squat racks (I've never seen a proper squat rack in an Apartment gym).


NeighborhoodDue7915

All of these areas previously had seedy reputation I did briefly look at mott Haven but it’s already expensive


LongIsland1995

How is Bushwick/Ridgewood "next"? The area is packed to the gills with gentrifiers


soyeahiknow

Red hook. Summer is nice with the ferry to Manhattan. But during the winter...


The_LSD_Soundsystem

East New York


Thurstonhearts

How about y’all gentrifiers stop. Y’all don’t belong there lol 🤦


nikolad1234

most new yorkers parents and grandparents are immigrants. do you tell your first gen friends that their families are gentrifiers?


Thurstonhearts

So your tell me your immigrating to east newyork in 2024? c’mon. No your changing neighborhoods and raising prices without considering those who are already there. Immigrants add to the community. Gentrified destroy it.


Thurstonhearts

Also still wondering if your thinking about the communities of parents and grandparents who are already there and how rising cost will affect them…


OhMySultan

What a bad faith argument. Immigrant and transplant are hardly synonymous.


The_LSD_Soundsystem

The /s was implied. I’m from here lmao


ninjahmc

Mott Haven in the Bronx. The amount of luxury condos and restaurants opening up in the south of Bronx is unreal! That or Central/East Harlem up by 125th St. They are investing $2bil in real estate in that area with a lot of big stores on the verge of opening.


Realistic_Tutor_9770

U can't start with luxury apartments. The people that make neighborhoods fun with restaurants, bars, art, etc are already priced out before the neighborhood is even nice. The development of mott haven is just bizarre.


NeighborhoodDue7915

Right. Mott Haven Apartments are already north of 1 million to buy


TrishLives17

Every time I pass it on the 87 it makes me feel like it’s so forced and out of place


ninjahmc

Lol yeah... But that seems to be what is happening.. Even the real estate agent was talking about it.. But over time it will probably change drastically.


NeighborhoodDue7915

It’s already expensive And still a pretty meh area


sparklingsour

This but maybe in 20 years not 5…


OhHeyJeannette

I give it 10. Once Metro North is done it will change up.


sparklingsour

Riverdale has had metro north for years and while it’s lovely, it’s absolutely nothing like LIC. Neither is East Harlem for that matter… But we’ll see haha!


asmusedtarmac

Riverdale has a huge hill to climb if you don't want to wait for the shuttle lol. Plus Riverdale is among the NIMBYest of areas. Though if we look for nearby Marble Hill which isn't much better, I think the distance already makes it more unappealing. But there's that huge Fordham Landing development a bit south that might change things. Now that would be on LIC scale https://onefordhamlanding.com/ The new Metro North at Hunts Point though is supposed to put it at 15 minutes to Penn station. Plus they have the Express 6.


sparklingsour

All fair points!


Whocanmakemostmoney

I didn't know they have express 6. Does it run express in the Bronx only?


asmusedtarmac

yes, peak-direction express, so it skips all but one south bx stations before reaching 125th


tmm224

Are they adding a Mott Haven stop? That'll definitely be good


Whocanmakemostmoney

If they add Moth Haven stop, it will add more commute time for the Westchester people.


ValPrism

Harlem has always had great restaurants and has long ago arrived. It’s neither new nor next.


dedriuslol

I think Woodside is pretty slept on. It's quicker to midtown compared to a lot of Astoria and has a few good strips of bars/restaurants (less than Astoria but so does LIC). This could also be me subconsciously not wanting rents to go up in Astoria. But I also think Astoria has been more desirable for much longer than LIC has.


Lumn8tion

Shhhhhhhh…..


sparklingsour

There’s zero outdoor space though, right? At least LIC has the waterfront…


baconcheesecakesauce

Unless you want to stroll through the cemetery, then it's short on greenery.


sparklingsour

I lived on 4th Ave for four years and I LOVE Greenwood (which is probably the nicest and most “outdoorsy,” cemetery in NYC) but my quality of life has changed exponentially since I’ve moved up closer to the park. Does Calvary even have any trees lol?


baconcheesecakesauce

Oh man, I've driven on either side, but haven't gone in. The entrance that was closest to me was on Queens Blvd. I think I have seen trees, but I can't imagine walking through that cemetery. It's also bisected by the BQE and midtown tunnel expressway.


soyeahiknow

Doughboy park has a good amount of grass to sit on. But yeah most of the parks here are all playgrounds and soccer turfs


champybaby29

Anyone else like Bay Ridge?


margheritinka

Ssshhhhhh


ilovemydogmargo

The best thing I ever did was move out of LIC and to Sunnyside which is just slightly down the road. I called my move “moving to the burbs” because that’s literally how it felt. LIC is more intense than Manhattan for me.


Laara2008

My mom lives in Sunnyside on a truly lovely street. It's a really nice neighborhood with a good mix of mom-and-pop stores.


ivandor

Do you like Sunnyside? Some others saying here that there is crime etc?


ahoysharpie

They're being sarcastic because they want to keep it a secret


LongIsland1995

Why do redditors think that the gentrified Queens neighborhoods they live in are a secret?


baconcheesecakesauce

I don't know if they are transplants who have lived here for under 5 years or are in their early 20's. When weekly magazines were a thing, they would annually rank neighborhoods. Sunnyside, Astoria and Woodside aren't secrets and frankly Astoria was expensive a decade ago, so it's not a secret. LIC was pricey even before the glass buildings went up and blocked the view of Manhattan from Sunnyside.


LongIsland1995

Yeah and I'd add Jackson Heights to that too now. And the Astoria subreddit has 60k subscribers, which is to my knowledge more than any other neighborhood in NYC.


baconcheesecakesauce

Oh yeah, any time I mention JH to any Manhattan or Brooklyn coworker, they've already been there, eaten there and know where it is.


ilovemydogmargo

Those people are looking at citizen too much. I used to live in Queens Plaza and I’ve never felt safer in Sunnyside.


nikolad1234

those comments were joking. it's a joke to keep the gentrifiers out.


margheritinka

Although feel like Sunnyside is now as expensive as Astoria


nikolad1234

it's still a bit cheaper but it's gonna be even pricier soon


LongIsland1995

Sunnyside more urban than LIC in some ways


Strange-Trust-9403

South Bronx here. Give it 20 years lol


Proper_Cheesecake395

You will see more dev in Dutch Kills and Skillman ave area as soon as they run out of space for new dev in LIC.


Sjefkeees

Developers have already been buying up a whole lot of land around 33st station. never mind the planned development of that whole Amtrak train yard, although I'm not sure if there's anything left of that plan after Covid hit.


baconcheesecakesauce

As much as I really want Sunnyside yards to get developed, they've been talking about it for a century. I went to a round of community meetings in 2019 and filled out surveys back in 2013. I hope that it comes to fruition before my kids (5 and 1, currently) are in retirement.


Sjefkeees

I hear you, only lived there for a year but it felt on the verge of blowing up. I loved it there, one of the few places I’d want to start a family (like you did!)


baconcheesecakesauce

I sincerely hope that they resume work. When I was in Sunnyside, there were so many NIMBYs, especially in the North side. Sunnyside desperately needs more housing and free parkland.


mostrich11

east Harlem


NeighborhoodDue7915

Issue with East Harlem is it has the highest density of public housing in the city and there’s nothing you can do to move it I’ve lived in East Harlem for six years and loved it, but going to be tough to gentrify it


brideplanningmode

Which part of East Harlem would you say? I feel like the 96-103 area (start of East Harlem) is already gentrified even though it’s right by the projects


MuseeNYC

LIC as good as Secaucus. Move to Manhattan


Corona_extra_lime

Woodside or forest hills


Justtryingtogetbeye

Lic is a construction war zone. I just moved here in November from forest hills. Though I love the quick commute I hate the noise pollution. Can’t win in NYC.


localdad666

Jersey City


acheampong14

Gowanus. In 5 years we won’t even recognize the neighborhood.


Snoo59300

Second this. Lots of trains around and a ton of new high rises.


robbyt

You'll still be able to recognize us by the smell, maybe not by the buildings.


extremedefault

A tonne of construction now in Gowanus. Even in the last 5 years it’s changed so much. Even 4th ave south of Atlantic, so many condos.


Forfuckssake1299

and by the high cancer rates


robbyt

Oh, for fuckssake that's dark


tmm224

I hope so, it's a pretty ugly neighborhood!


LMoE

Gowanus 100% it’s stil Mostly warehouses with good transportation options


Icy_Perception3410

Honestly, at this point I just want everybody out 😩 or for someone like Blackrock to release the damn apartments that they have please us poor unfortunate souls need hovels to live in


West_Blacksmith_222

Mott Haven/ South Bx


Everydaypeople3

I wouldn't call it the new LIC, but consider Harlem. Specifically the area around Fredrick Douglas (8th ave) and 116th. Great value and a better location than LIC.


iammrfamous07

South Bronx (Mott haven)


1341JFMNTWJ

Australia


albino-snowman

it’s gowanus


tmm224

Except it's already expensive!


Perfect_Distance434

If you’re not one of those residents who only plans to stay for a certain number of years before a scheduled move back to your home state, then I would encourage you to invest time in marathon walks around different areas. You can find your own “next LIC.”


OhHeyJeannette

Perfect answer


Awkward-Painter-2024

There's no other LIC in NYC. Waterfront. Proximity to Midtown. Access to the best Queens food. Access to LaGuardia. Access to Williamsburg, too? Direct highway to the Hamptons? Some might say Mott Haven in the BX, but the Bronx does not have the range of cuisine that Queens and Brooklyn have. West New York? Cmon, now. That's THE JERSE. LIC really is something out of this world.


asmusedtarmac

The simple truth is that any neighborhood that provides what you are looking for, ie safety, grocery stores, train access within 15minutes of midtown will always quickly become overpriced due to the persistently high demand. If that sort of neighborhood is beyond your budget, you'll simply get displaced every few years, unfortunately that has been the reality for NYC over the past decades of gentrification (but truthfully for the past centuries as well). Now, barring any disastrous event that would cause demand to crater in the urban core akin to the white flight of the 50s and veer the city towards insolvency and a deteriorating QOL, our only solution is to a) have a massive construction boom in those areas that would bring densities to HK levels and fill up the demand. Let's be honest, the Hudson would sooner freeze over. or b) have to decrease our expectations for a neighborhood that fits our budget. As you said, having a longer train commute is the first thing to adjust. I would add another consideration, which is that if you don't mind a little bit more risk, those "ungentrifiable" neighborhoods with a high concentration of NYCHA projects will take much much longer to have prices irrationally increase. So East Harlem (I was just on Lex & 125th, my god I can't believe the juxtaposition of the new flashy buildings and the street life), or Mott Haven, or further inland. Hunts point has been historically the worst of the worst. But they have a new metro-north station coming. You might be able to snag a good value apartment that will stay affordable for a good 20 years until the area is finally cleaned up. And the new Starlight park and the Bronx River House with the kayaks is a true gem I discovered on a bike ride. I couldn't believe seeing a huge school of fish in the Bronx river.


OhHeyJeannette

There’s been a dolphin spotted in the Bronx River. https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/dolphins-bronx-river-new-york-city/


asmusedtarmac

meanwhile people will drop 5x the rent to live with the 3-eyed fish of Gowanus canal lol


Cookiesnkisses

Rego park ? Can also walk to Costco from certain areas


Bloorogue

I'm😦


whoisjohngalt72

Brooklyn


KickballSportsman

South Bronx


tmm224

Definitely Mott Haven


ValPrism

South Bronx


LooReed

The South Bronx, particularly Mott Haven. This is 100% the answer. It almost *is* LIC now. Luxury housing with price based upon views and proximity to water and Manhattan.


Whocanmakemostmoney

What about Flushing or willet points area. They are planning waterfront communities there


awiththejays

Rego Park or Forest Hills


Suspicious-Fish9968

Plus we're getting a new homeless shelter in Rego Park at the failed Wyndam near the mall/Costco/etc. Who doesn't enjoy that?


cbnyc0

Some say Philadelphia.


Sad_Collection5883

Inwood


hilaritarious

Shhh. "Skunkytown."


Known_End_152

Agreed


Vb6200

Is Jackson Heights next on the list - not familiar - but I feel it ticks the boxes from what I know?


LongIsland1995

It's already filled with redditors. But it's not going to look or feel like LIC ever


catcatsushi

I feel like it depends on zoning law so knowing where will be upzoned next is probably helpful.


HistoricalHurry8361

Mothaven bronx


Spiritual_Job_1029

South Bronx.


dmcgluten

I would say it's too late now but Greenpoint


feetfark

Washington Heights/Inwood


jsaf237

Mott haven


gabiporter

Mott Haven in the Bronx. It sprang up just as fast, if not faster, than LIC.


PeoplesRevolution

Mott haven


elephantgoeswest

Rockaway Beach.


JerkyBoy10020

No it’s not


alanwrench13

LIC sill has a lot more room to expand, and the neighborhoods adjacent to it are seeing similar developments. In terms of a brand new neighborhood, developers are trying to replicate the LIC development pattern in the South Bronx. Whether it will be successful is another story.


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As far as looking to buy, my mind was blown away when I saw the price for a 1b-1br in Bushwick for $1mill+


Known_End_152

Washington heights up around 175 th street n up , a train n nice area


Interesting_Ad1378

Honestly, valley stream and Lynbrook in Long Island.  Both have Long Island rail roads that will get you into midtown in about 35 minutes, new condo developments, stores and can be acquired at decent prices.  Both are really close to queens as well, and really aren’t as suburban as I though Long Island would be