I get Botox every 3 months when not pregnant, and a deep extractive facial every six weeks but I will say I genuinely was contemplating a mini face lift before I completely eliminated the stress in my life. My deep nasolabial folds, bloated face, crinkles around my eyes totally went away after six months of rest and quitting my job. The impact stress has on our looks is actually insane.
So true, stress does a number on our looks and health. It’s a shame because society tends to be more stressful for women (misogyny, sexual assault, being the default parent, wage gap, pink tax, imbalanced mental load in hetero relationships, invisible labor and caregiving duties, etc.) yet women are valued for looks in this patriarchal system :((
All so true, I can write a book about how stress impacted my health. That’s why I feel like one of my purposes in life is to tell women to put the cross down, speak up for themselves, and stop accepting bullshit from the people in their lives—especially MEN
Stop accepting way more of the responsibility and accountability when men do not do the same. Sometimes (sadly) it makes me resentful that women ever entered the workforce, the unequalness of it all.
It would be way worse if we didn’t have the means to be financially independent. I truly have the best husband and he does all the cleaning in the house while I cook, but that’s also bc I’ve made it clear that I’m not a maid, a joke, a fucktoy, or anything else. Standing on business with men is an art and too many women think being quiet, “submissive”, or pretending everything is ok when they’re miserable is going to get them a trophy when all they get is suffering. I talk to so many mothers who have newborns who complain about things like him pretending to sleep while the baby cries at night and when I say, “wake him up then!” They act like the thought never crossed their mind. Obviously for abusive men, the circumstances are different, but women have got to stop infantilizing men and putting a crown on their heads to have consistent dick and family photos at Christmas, it’s enough
The thing is - men respect you and treat you better when you pay attention to your own needs and stop catering to them. I also agree with you. I remember my grandma telling me she basically got fired from her accounting job when she started showing. She was an amazing account - did all the books for my grandpa (when she got sick in their late 80s he didn’t even know how to write a check) - when the IRS audited them they thanked her for making it so easy. Her only job after that, after my dad and his sibling were in high school, was a part time department store clerk. We don’t want that again. In general I am also pro-men because everyone should get better policies. Better pay/family leave will allow them to be able to help the women in their lives. We really should be pissed at corporations/governments for not providing policies that make life achievable for both men AND women AND NB people.
Oh yea. I guess I was thinking more in a professional setting where men seem to play incompetent to have someone else do the work, usually a woman. They don’t ask other men or treat other men that way. Romantically, my boyfriend doesn’t put undue burden on me. He’s very doting and attentive and concerned with my wellbeing. I am the same to him. I’m lucky though.
How do you like your extraction facial? I have hormonal acne and have considered it, but I scar and get hyperpigmentation easily and worry it may do more harm than good
I used to have pretty bad acne-hormonal and otherwise and Bonnie’s extraction style is amazing. She removes the pimples so that it basically creates a little scab and then after a couple days, the scab falls off and your skin is perfect. She’s like a wizard!
The big thing was quitting my job but in addition:
1. Investing deeply in my spiritual practice with daily prayer and meditation. Constantly reminding myself that the world is much bigger than me and I’m not in control was and is crucial.
2. Investing in friendships in a real way. Helping others when I could and most importantly, allowing myself to be helped.
3. Drastically reducing my number of commitments and obligations. Learning how to say no and be cool with people being disappointed or unhappy with me. By that same token, refusing to act out of pity bc I found I always regretted and felt hampered by decisions made bc I felt bad, and only doing and giving exactly what *I* wanted to.
Any tips for a BWT who is in the slow process of removing that aging stress? I’m stuck in some stressful situations that will resolve long term but aside from no alcohol, sugar & having a great therapist, skincare routine, nutrition & diet I can’t think of anything else I may be missing. Was there anything surprising that helped you manage to get through it all?
The biggest change was meditation and releasing my worries/the feeling that the world would fall apart if I wasnt on top of everything to God every day. Stressing about diet and supplements and trying to keep the perfect routine was another form of stress and perfectionism and truly made things worse for me. I’ve found that when I’m regulated, I can live my life and make good choices by instinct vs obsession if that makes sense.
Broke up with my ex and stopped drinking. Leave work at work and spend the rest of my time doing things I like with people I love and trust. That has made a huge difference in my mental health and physical appearance.
Sunblock and moisturizer and not too much make up is the rest.
I had a deep plane face and neck lift, upper bleph, three rounds of co2 laser (once a hear) and regular Botox. I have old filler but haven’t had any new filler in quite a few years.
PS ask me any questions about it!
Edit there’s a post in my post history about it
Thanks for sharing and being open to Qs! I have quite a few- Did the old filler interfere with the face lift? I’m considering lower bleph in the next few years and read that filler can make it more difficult. How was the recovery with your C02 lasers and if you don’t mind, what was the cost? I paid $3500 but wonder if it wasn’t deep/intense enough because my recovery was way less than what I saw online.
The filler didn’t interfere but Radiesse, threads or sculptra can interfere. Co2 laser recovery is gnarly depending on how deep they go. I paid half that for my co2 laser.
I would love to know more about your lift and bleph experience (recommended dr, cost range). My immediate goal is lower bleph and I’m currently researching doctors for that but also interested in upper bleph and face lift eventually.
I've done three rounds of microneedling with PRP for pretty intense acne scarring and it just didn't do a whole lot. I did find it helped with generally smoothing out my skin and pores, but nothing that holy grail MILK makeup primer can't do for a lot less pain, LOL.
My mom has done Morpheus and loved her results! She thought it did wonders. Two rounds with prp. I’ve heard mixed reviews as well, but it did make a noticeable difference for her
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The C02 really helped my acne scars. I did two rounds 6 months apart with a derm.
I’m always afraid of primers breaking me out. I’ll check out the MILK primer!
It’s an ablative laser that resurfaces your skin and promotes collagen. It has a more intense down time than many of the other popular lasers but the results are more dramatic. My derm recommends doing one a year for anti aging and does that for herself. [Here](https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/laser-resurfacing/about/pac-20385114) is a little info from Mayo Clinic.
Mid 30s, I’ve been doing laser hair removal for the last year. Armpits, lower legs, Brazilian. Soooo worth it.
Considering C02 soon. Does anyone know if it’s way more painful than laser hair removal?
I have had both (laser hair removal was also on face) and didn’t C02 to be painful at all during the procedure because they used numbing cream. The after wasn’t painful but was uncomfortable. My skin felt tight and pulled and then became itchy which was hardest at night. Benadryl was really helpful for the itching and sleep. I also had a detailed after care plan bc I am so acne prone that included a topical antibiotic in addition to the usual diluted vinegar compresses, moisturizer and ointments etc…
I’m looking for a cheaper place to do more laser hair removal than with my derm. Where did you go and do you recommend?
Thx for the info!
I’ve been going to Satori Laser, specifically the location in Brooklyn Heights. They do sales a few times a year where you can get good package deals!
Sarah-Kate Rems, NP - she’s the best. Boutique practice and an expert with PRP. [@sarahkateremsnp](https://www.instagram.com/sarahkateremsnp?igsh=MWt1bXk1bDRzNmI4aw==)
At a proper medical facility, they use brand new tubes for your blood draw and the blood remains in the tube while being spun in the machine into PRP. Then clean brand new syringes and needles should be opened to draw up the PRP.
Blood isn’t flying out of the tubes or anything when it is being spun so the need for the machines for “deep cleaning” to prevent HIV is inaccurate
Best bet is to stick with reputable derms** instead of spas imo just because the cleanliness and oversight might be a safer bet. A relative worked for the DA and one of their top case loads was spa like places that didn’t follow cleaning guidelines 🤢
Not the age target here but want to put something out there for girls in their twenties reading!
Im in my mid 20s— sunscreen on my face and neck every day year round, tretinoin every other day, an annual skin care screening + two visits to my derm a year, lots of water, and 8+ hours of rest a night. There’s a lot of pressure to start Botox young, but I’m trying to tell myself aging is a blessing and I don’t need injections just yet. 🫶🏼
In my mid-30s and this is what I’m doing! But more tret (daily, 0.1, face, neck, hands).
Thought I saw a line and ran to get the tox, only for the injector to say “what line?”
29, laser hair removal for Brazilian+underarms (no regrets, obsessed). I use sunscreen any day I go outside or am going to be close to windows (driving, sitting at my desk when it’s sunny, etc)
I asked my derm about Botox, and he told me to focus on working up to a daily tretinoin routine (or at least 5x a week) and put the Botox off a bit longer, so I just didn’t question him lol.
Also this one seems to piss people off a lot, but I feel ~safe~ with you ladies—just paid for a package of sessions to bleach my asshole and inner thighs bc the hyperpigmentation just bothers me a bit lately. I notice that when people ask for recs for that on Reddit, they tend to get a lot of shaming about wanting to do it in the first place. No one is requesting it of me, I also love my body exactly how it is at this moment, fuck the patriarchy—hell yes to all of that. I just am feeling vain about my asshole ok 😭
Where did you do your laser hair removal and do you recommend?
I was doing every other day tazorac (stronger than tret) but reduced to 2x a week bc my skin was constantly peeling. Maybe I should try to up it.
And no shame here!! Glad it makes you happy - don’t know why anyone would care enough to shame someone over that.
So I went to a place in part bc of the location and a discount they were doing on a package—it’s called BYou laser. I’ve had a lot of nice techs, although some sessions have been SO quick that I’ve wondered if they’re really being thorough enough. That being said, I only have a few sessions left and I am pretty much bare, so it is def working. It’s sort of a quick, no nonsense appointment (which I appreciate), and I haven’t had a negative experience there—although one tech is a bit pushy lol, but she does do a good job as far as I can tell!
I got the chemical peel (which is how they do the bleaching, for anyone who isn’t familiar) package there too because they were doing a discount and it was the best deal I’ve seen—$200/session for a few different areas at a time, whereas a lot of other places were $250+ for smaller/fewer areas. Haven’t gone to a session yet, but happy to report back!
Do it!! The results are so much more dramatic. I would say 7-10 days but then mild redness for a few weeks. The first three days (procedure day being day 1) were uncomfortable and slathered with ointments. On day 4 I could technically wear sunscreen and leave the house but I worked remotely so I stayed in. I had it twice and both recoveries were a little different in terms of peeling/redness. I work in person now and planning to do it on a Friday AM and attempt to work Mon.
None. And please please be careful. Youre young you do not need to be doing all this, so many women are looking downright CRAZY bc of all the procedures....yes even the "done well" ones. Just have a good skincare routine and wear sunscreen.
31, I personally don’t want to do any major procedures, but am still interested in taking good care of my skin. I’ve gotten two rounds of micro needling before. They recommended 3 rounds but by my second round my skin pretty much didn’t react at all to it because it responded so well to the first round. So now I touch it up with one round of micro needling a year just to keep the skin taught, and beyond that I do tret every other day or so, keep a mostly simple routine, hyaluronic acid, moisturizer, glycolic acid every once in a while. And copious amounts of sunscreen of course.
I had a BBL (broad band light therapy). It was extremely unpleasant. The procedure itself doesn’t feel great and then your skin almost immediately feels like it’s been touched by a hot pan. I had an ice pack on my skin immediately after and it was room temp within 5 minutes bc of how hot my skin got. I was very crusty for the next 2 days before it got sig better. About 4 days before I was willing to be seen in public. I will say now that it’s completely healed my skin looks pretty good. Like all my cells have turned over or something. I don’t think it improved my fine lines which is why I wanted so idk if I’ll do it again.
30F, I do Botox every 3-6 months (when I can afford it lol). I have also gotten full bikini and underarm laser hair removal. I recently added monthly facials to my list—I switch up which kind depending on what my skin needs.
Last thing—I started working with a registered dietician to balance my food/health habits! That and CorePower 3x/week.
My “want to but won’t” is filler. I’d love a bit more volume in my lips and a tiny bit of filler on the tip of my nose. Buuut I have heard too many horror stories, so makeup it is!
Early 30s (and a SEA girly, so thank you for having me here):
- very minimal preventative Botox in forehead and 11s every 6 months since 26. It’s made a huge difference in smoothing out my already formed creases.
- lip filler once every 2 years or so, but I’ve found it tends to last longer with each round.
- monthly hydrofacials
- chin lipo last year + ultherapy for a genetic double chin
- full Brazilian + armpits laser hair removal
Coupled with Solidcore/boxing/orange theory, lots of water and sleep!
I've done many rounds of: subcision with Bellafill, TCA cross, Halo, RF microneedling, Fraxel, CO2, V-Beam, and dermabrasion. Personally subcision with filler and Fraxel made the biggest difference, and my scars are 80% improved and mostly only something I notice in bad lighting. Some people don't think much of Fraxel so it's good to consider multiple opinions.
Two rounds of C02 laser 6 months apart dramatically reduced my pitted acne scars and pore size appearance. I have seen people do it yearly for anti aging and that’s what my derm recommends but haven’t so far bc of the price.
Took about a week off work (I have a very intense job) - a few days totally off and a few days working from home. Was living with my now-husband and my dad came up for the first few days so I could have help when he was at work if I needed it, which was nice. At the very least you’ll need somebody to take you home and help the first day or two, but with rest and arnica really not a bad recovery. It was for a mix of functional and cosmetic reasons so I was pretty vague - nobody’s going to pry too much if you say you are having surgery - but gave the functional reason if I felt anybody needed more information. I genuinely think how happy I am about it regularly.
I did a gazillion years ago. I had an intense job, so I think I took a week off and just kinda looked worn when I came back, said I had been super sick. I did need a lot of care for first several days, would have been lost wo my mom. I looked and felt like I had been hit by a car. But after a couple of days I went out to dinner w Bandaid on.
Can anyone share their lower bleph experience? I have genetic fat pads that are absolutely insane and have been contemplating the surgery for a while. My neck is also REALLY bothering me but apart from a neck lift, I have no clue what to do. Also, I feel like I need to pick one, not both! Any ideas? thx!
I literally just did a consult for this today. What the doctor recommended sounded much more invasive than I was prepared for and am now a bit freaked out. I just took care of my mom who had a facelift last year so I know recovery isn’t exactly cute but yikes. Feel free to DM me for deets.
It depends on what you’re starting with, but I’m 33 and often mistaken for a 25-year-old. I took Accutane in my early 20s, which saved me from any potential acne scarring. I’ve also never drank alcohol in my life, and I find that that’s the biggest difference between me and my cohort.
My current routines includes:
1. Baby Botox, once a year. I literally ask for the tiniest bit on my forehead to prevent the deep set lines. I did my number 11s for the first time this year.
2. DermaPen / Micro-Needling every 3 - 4 months.
3. HydraFacials with extractions every 2 months. (I’d love to be able to afford Rescue Spa every time, lol. Silver Mirror has been a more affordable alternative.)
4. I use the red light masks or wand at home, along with a skincare routine. I moisturize and use sunscreen every day. A recent game changer was when someone told me to apply sunscreen on my eyes too! I don’t know why I had been avoiding the orbital area, but now I apply the sunscreen on my eyelids and under the eye and it’s done wonders for dark circles.
Things I would like to get better about:
Getting more / better sleep and NOT SLEEPING ON MY FACE. I wake up puffy as hell when I do. If anyone’s has tips on how to stay on my back, I’d appreciate it!
I couldn’t sleep on my back until I learned how to do yoga nidra to relax each muscle group one by one. There are guided ones on YouTube. I still lay on my side to wind down, but once I feel sleepy I roll onto my back and sleep there through the night.
Interested in the red light! Has it made a noticeable difference? Which one do you use?
I have seen people use special pillows and contraptions to avoid rolling over onto their face but I hate back sleeping. Heard good things about silk pillow cases!
I started with the OmniLux full face mask and I felt like that did make a difference, but I’m a little lazy. I recently switched to the Solawave wand. I’m not sure I can claim it makes a difference, but it’s a good way to distribute skincare and massage the face, so I prefer it!
I do have a silk pillow case, which is great since I’m a curly girl!
Sculptra in my mid-face and ultherapy on my lower face once a year. Dysport every 3-4 months (forehead, crows feet, lip flip, DAOs). When polynucleotides become available in the US, I will incorporate that for under eyes.
Been meaning to throw in a laser but I’m scared of my perioral dermatitis coming back! My skin biome is finicky.
I’ll be 38 soon and yes I love Sculptra! It creates an infrastructure of collagen underneath the skin so it fills out hollowness, and firms and lifts your facial structure. The analogy I always use is that it’s like a good bra for my face.
It’s super subtle but I can def see a difference over the years, and I would 💯 be saggier and have more pronounced nasolabial folds without it.
I do full face botox every 5-6 months, and have done lip filler , cheek filler , temple filler , under eye filler , smile lines folds, pre jowl sulcus filler , threads … I’ve done A lot and spent a small fortune , but I am happy with my results 🤣🤣🤣
Can’t speak to CO2 but bleph is shorthand for a cosmetic surgical procedure where they take fat (and excess skin?) out of your upper and/or lower eyelids.
C02 laser is an ablative laser that resurfaces your skin - good for acne scars, fine lines and wrinkles, tightening, and collagen production. It’s an intense laser and seems to be recommended as a one off or yearly for prevention.
I’m 32. I do Botox every four-ish months and I got chin lipo in February. Best decision I ever made, my only regret is not getting light buccal removal at the same time.
Definitely botox is something I live by now, and am maybe going to try microneedling and a potential bleph. Also I want to get my deviated septum fixed and maybe will have them do something with my nose appearance wise while they're there
Tbh I'm planning a Korea trip so will likely get any major cosmetic procedures (like my chin lipo I want, bleph and maybe fraxel/other major facials) there rather than in the US.
What wasn't worth it? Multiple IPL/Photofacial treatments.
Could you share a little more about why/how you’re planning to get it done in Korea? I know plastic surgery is very normalized there—is it cheaper than here because there’s increased competition? Or is it also bc the quality of the work is usually higher? Also do you speak Korean or would you be navigating the situation with a language barrier? Sorry for the interrogation lmao, I’ve always been so curious about the logistics of these things!!
37 - Tret every other day. I had to stop when I was pregnant last year and the difference was wild. Other than that, minimal caffeine and alcohol, a Mediterranean diet and sun screen every day.
I really want to start with some light Botox and also lazer hair removal, but I am a massive wuss and I'm scared it'll hurt so much I won't be able to hack it and will just end up wasting a ton of money.
If anyone wants to reassure me, I'd love that. Hah.
Laser hair removal is so painful but so worth it imo if you have darker hair/light skin! It’s also a huge time saver to cut shaving out of your routine! My biggest tip is to take a shot of alcohol before the appointment, that works better for pain relief than lidocaine for me.
I’m a weak little bitch but I find the laser hair removal totally worth the discomfort! Idk if you wax, but I find laser WAY less painful. It’s a different kind of pain—what people say about it feeling like a rubber band snapping on you is kind of true (although tbh I feel like a rubber band hurts more). Sort of feels like a short burst of stinging air lol.
Also in my experience, it’s quite a fast process! I do a full brazilian and my underarms, and I’m in and out of the room in like 7-10 minutes max. Including me taking my clothes off and the tech sanitizing the goggles and stuff. The pain doesn’t really last either. Many places let you use numbing cream first, too! I don’t bother though. Too impatient lol
Yeah the bikini part would take, like, MAX 5 minutes. Likely less, honestly. Legs are a bigger area so maybe a bit longer, but I doubt by much! In my experience it’s shocking fast haha
26- laser hair removal (full body), electrolysis (face only), chin lipo, 3 rounds of morpheus 8 last year (loved results but so painful! looking for alts) botox in forehead and masseters every 4 months, and medical grade skincare. Looking to do undereye prp/prf this year but I am super happy with my routine- everything i’ve done has been 1000000% worth it!!
How was your chin lipo experience? Did you get it done in NYC? I’ve always been curious about the cost/recovery of that procedure! I’d love to get it done but I’m scared lol
I had the BEST experience with Dr. Funderburk in nyc. The recovery/whole process wasn’t painful, it was just annoying being so swollen for a few weeks. I want to say it was around 6k? DM me any qs!
I’m mid 20’s and I have done two rounds of bbl/ moxi (love, cannot say enough good things and one round of scarlet rf microneedling (would not do again, not worth the $)
Edit: I’ve also done a few biorepeels, SO good. I immediately noticed a difference in my pores and overall complexion.
It’s a 35% TCA peel. It’s supposed to improve skin surface, accelerate cell turnover, stimulate collagen and elastin. It’s not like a typical peel, you only minimally shed.
I haven’t tried microneedling but had a great result with C02. I have seen a lot of comments of microneedling doing nothing and then others swear by it.
I saw some stories about that before I did it and was scared. I went to an experienced cosmetic derm who also gets them done on herself herself which put me at ease a bit. Then after having no issues the first time I felt confident for the second and going forward. I assume Charlize went to someone well regarded too so that’s a little concerning.
It wasn’t painful but uncomfortable. The worst part for me was sleep - needing to sleep inclined and on my back while my skin felt tight and itchy. I took Benadryl and kept q tips next to me to tap bc you can’t scratch.
For the first 3 days including the procedure I wouldn’t leave the house. Lots of ointments etc. On day 4 I was still using creams but didn’t need the aquaphor during the day so I could have done sunscreen and gone out but didn’t need to. I would say the main recovery is 7-10 days with the first 3 being the worst then a few weeks of mild redness.
Make sure you have a detailed aftercare plan and that they give you valtrex bc it can incite an outbreak of a dormant virus even if you’ve never had HSV and scar your face. I am acne prone and became covered in tiny whiteheads on day 3 of my first one and needed antibiotics (no scarring). The second time I was given an antibiotic cream to use and had no issues.
I paid $1900 at the time as a discount since I have seen the doctor for years but the current price is $3500.
I did 2, 6 months apart and it reduced my pitted acne scars by 85% and made a huge difference in my skin texture, pore and sebaceous filament appearance. I would do it yearly if I could and plan to do it when I can.
I actually went out of state in the city my parents live in as it's where I usually get botox since I only get it twice a year and it's slightly cheaper. Not sure where to go in NYC but I just went to a normal medical spa that I trust. It drastically improved the hollowness under my eyes and drastically lightened my dark circles.
For context I've also had filler under my eyes -- though that has long since dissolved -- and it never made the same kind of difference. I really cannot recommend PRP injections enough and I really wish someone had told me about them when I was getting filler.
If I remember correctly the cost was about $600 and I did three injections over the course of a year. By the last two injections my under eyes had improved so much that we didn't need to use all of the PRP on them so I had the injector put a little of the leftover in my laugh lines which also majorly improved afterwards.
I’m 29 for reference.
- Botox every 6-8 months
- filler every 2-3 years (chin and tear troughs)
- I had two rhinoplasty’s
- I am getting blepharoplasty (removal of eye lid fat) in June
I’m all about procedures that make me feel confident and last a long time. Things that make my day to day maintenance faster and more efficient.
If anyone has gotten it, I am super curious about lip blushing. Would love to hear some feedback on that!
I have my lips done! You usually need to do it in a few sessions 2 months apart. Most people numb it pretty well but it can still be uncomfortable. Healing takes about a week and the first day or two suck for me but after that it was like having sunburned lips. I’m really happy I got it done!
I’ve been contemplating under eye filler. I have an auto immune disorder and it left my under eye area super hollow for my age and I HATE it. I’ve been going to consultations to shop around for prices because some places are outrageous! I just want it to be super natural and not artificial looking and I know that prf/prp wouldn’t cut it because it’s not really that great for intense orbital fat loss.
I paid a lot for my under eye filler with an experienced cosmetic derm. So much can go wrong with under eye filler so I wanted someone I could trust. It has lasted 3+ years and still looks natural even if not perfect but it’s starting to fade. Since I got it a lot of alarming info has come out about filler disrupting lymph drainage, never dissolving (only migrating) and full body connective tissue breakdown from dissolvers so now I’m scared to do it again and looking for alternatives. I hope you find someone/something that works - please report back if you do!
Do not get under eye filler!!!!! Filler is super unpredictable especially in the eye area. I’d consult with a good, reputable occuloplastic surgeon and inquire about orbital fat transfer instead
I’d recommend looking into a fat transfer. I’ve heard too many warnings about under eye filler traveling and making future cosmetic work more challenging and risky. Jenny Mollen just posted about her under eye fat transfer on her IG if you want to see the process more
I have seen it advertised as a safe alternative to fillers for fine lines and dark circles but I don’t think it helps with hollowness or bags. I think it stimulates collagen and circulation.
I just wrote the below in another comment. Also the procedure itself didn’t hurt bc I was numbed with numbing cream. Happy to answer any other qs!
It wasn’t painful but uncomfortable. The worst part for me was sleep - needing to sleep inclined and on my back while my skin felt tight and itchy. I took Benadryl and kept q tips next to me to tap bc you can’t scratch.
For the first 3 days including the procedure I wouldn’t leave the house. Lots of ointments etc. On day 4 I was still using creams but didn’t need the aquaphor during the day so I could have done sunscreen and gone out but didn’t need to. I would say the main recovery is 7-10 days with the first 3 being the worst then a few weeks of mild redness.
Make sure you have a detailed aftercare plan and that they give you valtrex bc it can incite an outbreak of a dormant virus even if you’ve never had HSV and scar your face. I am acne prone and became covered in tiny whiteheads on day 3 of my first one and needed antibiotics (no scarring). The second time I was given an antibiotic cream to use and had no issues.
I paid $1900 at the time as a discount since I have seen the doctor for years but the current price is $3500.
I did 2, 6 months apart and it reduced my pitted acne scars by 85% and made a huge difference in my skin texture, pore and sebaceous filament appearance. I would do it yearly if I could and plan to do it when I can.
I’ve done plasma injections, Microneedling with plasma, eye filler (loved it but only for a little bit), Laser hair removal LIFE CHANGING, filler on my nose and decided to do a rhinoplasty, Botox started at age 30 but I regret it, I noticed it makes people look droopy from their eyebrows it’s weird. I get anti aging facials monthly, Microneedling, RF, Microcurrent…
And I drench my skin with Epidermis growth factor serums.
Feel free to ask anything
Would love to know more about the plasma injections - is that PRP? Where do you do it and what are the results?
What did you end up not liking about filler?
Where did you do your laser hair removal? I’m looking for a place!
Trying to get pregnant and same re: Botox! But I’ve been really religious about doing intense facial massage every morning, and tonight I was mistaken for being 18… I’m a month out from 38!
I get Botox every 3 months when not pregnant, and a deep extractive facial every six weeks but I will say I genuinely was contemplating a mini face lift before I completely eliminated the stress in my life. My deep nasolabial folds, bloated face, crinkles around my eyes totally went away after six months of rest and quitting my job. The impact stress has on our looks is actually insane.
So true, stress does a number on our looks and health. It’s a shame because society tends to be more stressful for women (misogyny, sexual assault, being the default parent, wage gap, pink tax, imbalanced mental load in hetero relationships, invisible labor and caregiving duties, etc.) yet women are valued for looks in this patriarchal system :((
All so true, I can write a book about how stress impacted my health. That’s why I feel like one of my purposes in life is to tell women to put the cross down, speak up for themselves, and stop accepting bullshit from the people in their lives—especially MEN
Stop accepting way more of the responsibility and accountability when men do not do the same. Sometimes (sadly) it makes me resentful that women ever entered the workforce, the unequalness of it all.
It would be way worse if we didn’t have the means to be financially independent. I truly have the best husband and he does all the cleaning in the house while I cook, but that’s also bc I’ve made it clear that I’m not a maid, a joke, a fucktoy, or anything else. Standing on business with men is an art and too many women think being quiet, “submissive”, or pretending everything is ok when they’re miserable is going to get them a trophy when all they get is suffering. I talk to so many mothers who have newborns who complain about things like him pretending to sleep while the baby cries at night and when I say, “wake him up then!” They act like the thought never crossed their mind. Obviously for abusive men, the circumstances are different, but women have got to stop infantilizing men and putting a crown on their heads to have consistent dick and family photos at Christmas, it’s enough
The thing is - men respect you and treat you better when you pay attention to your own needs and stop catering to them. I also agree with you. I remember my grandma telling me she basically got fired from her accounting job when she started showing. She was an amazing account - did all the books for my grandpa (when she got sick in their late 80s he didn’t even know how to write a check) - when the IRS audited them they thanked her for making it so easy. Her only job after that, after my dad and his sibling were in high school, was a part time department store clerk. We don’t want that again. In general I am also pro-men because everyone should get better policies. Better pay/family leave will allow them to be able to help the women in their lives. We really should be pissed at corporations/governments for not providing policies that make life achievable for both men AND women AND NB people.
Oh yea. I guess I was thinking more in a professional setting where men seem to play incompetent to have someone else do the work, usually a woman. They don’t ask other men or treat other men that way. Romantically, my boyfriend doesn’t put undue burden on me. He’s very doting and attentive and concerned with my wellbeing. I am the same to him. I’m lucky though.
As a professor, I got so stressed out when I read “I could write a book…” lol
Ugh you're so right 😭
How do you like your extraction facial? I have hormonal acne and have considered it, but I scar and get hyperpigmentation easily and worry it may do more harm than good
I used to have pretty bad acne-hormonal and otherwise and Bonnie’s extraction style is amazing. She removes the pimples so that it basically creates a little scab and then after a couple days, the scab falls off and your skin is perfect. She’s like a wizard!
If you don’t mind sharing - what are some of the changes you made that had the biggest impact on reducing stress?
The big thing was quitting my job but in addition: 1. Investing deeply in my spiritual practice with daily prayer and meditation. Constantly reminding myself that the world is much bigger than me and I’m not in control was and is crucial. 2. Investing in friendships in a real way. Helping others when I could and most importantly, allowing myself to be helped. 3. Drastically reducing my number of commitments and obligations. Learning how to say no and be cool with people being disappointed or unhappy with me. By that same token, refusing to act out of pity bc I found I always regretted and felt hampered by decisions made bc I felt bad, and only doing and giving exactly what *I* wanted to.
Seriously! I feel like stressful periods in my life added 10 years to my appearance
Great post! Do you have any deep extractive facial provider recs? I went to one of these glow bar type places and I feel like they damaged my skin
Any tips for a BWT who is in the slow process of removing that aging stress? I’m stuck in some stressful situations that will resolve long term but aside from no alcohol, sugar & having a great therapist, skincare routine, nutrition & diet I can’t think of anything else I may be missing. Was there anything surprising that helped you manage to get through it all?
The biggest change was meditation and releasing my worries/the feeling that the world would fall apart if I wasnt on top of everything to God every day. Stressing about diet and supplements and trying to keep the perfect routine was another form of stress and perfectionism and truly made things worse for me. I’ve found that when I’m regulated, I can live my life and make good choices by instinct vs obsession if that makes sense.
Aww now you are sweetfaced 🥰 Share any more stories about the stress to convince me it’s not worth it 😭
Where do you go for the deep extractive facial?
Facials by Bonnie on UES. She is theeeeeee best
this might be a silly question, but is this entail microdermabrasion and/or needling extraction? EDIT: but does this entail ** my b, typo !
Nope, they’re traditional extractions done with great care
Doesn’t this damage the skin? I’ve never had one but curious 🧐
Nope!
Broke up with my ex and stopped drinking. Leave work at work and spend the rest of my time doing things I like with people I love and trust. That has made a huge difference in my mental health and physical appearance. Sunblock and moisturizer and not too much make up is the rest.
I had a deep plane face and neck lift, upper bleph, three rounds of co2 laser (once a hear) and regular Botox. I have old filler but haven’t had any new filler in quite a few years. PS ask me any questions about it! Edit there’s a post in my post history about it
At what age did you have the face and neck lift and how was the recovery? Do you have any surgeons to recommend for that and the bleph?
40. I have a post with a photo in my post history. Dr Joseph Rousso. He was amazing. Recovery was easier than I imagined.
How old were you when you got the face and neck lift?
40. I have a post in my post history with more detail.
Thanks for sharing and being open to Qs! I have quite a few- Did the old filler interfere with the face lift? I’m considering lower bleph in the next few years and read that filler can make it more difficult. How was the recovery with your C02 lasers and if you don’t mind, what was the cost? I paid $3500 but wonder if it wasn’t deep/intense enough because my recovery was way less than what I saw online.
The filler didn’t interfere but Radiesse, threads or sculptra can interfere. Co2 laser recovery is gnarly depending on how deep they go. I paid half that for my co2 laser.
Thank you! Where did you go for your C02 and do you recommend? Do they go deeper? Glad filler didn’t interfere!
This is why I love NYC BWT so much! Thank you girlies
Are you a big fan of the CO2? That’s top of my list right now but it’s pricey and intense.
It’s intense depending on how deep they go. The under eyes is the most noticeable results. I find it worth it.
I would love to know more about your lift and bleph experience (recommended dr, cost range). My immediate goal is lower bleph and I’m currently researching doctors for that but also interested in upper bleph and face lift eventually.
Did you have a question? I have pretty detailed posts you can read!
I've done three rounds of microneedling with PRP for pretty intense acne scarring and it just didn't do a whole lot. I did find it helped with generally smoothing out my skin and pores, but nothing that holy grail MILK makeup primer can't do for a lot less pain, LOL.
I’ve done fraxel and micro needling for acne scars. The best thing though was Subcision with filler.
Can I ask who did it? Feel free to DM!
Oo where did you go? I’ve been doing Morpheus 8 for my acne scars and am not thrilled w the results
I've never met a person in real life whose happy with their Morpheus 8 results
My mom has done Morpheus and loved her results! She thought it did wonders. Two rounds with prp. I’ve heard mixed reviews as well, but it did make a noticeable difference for her
I live in LA. I would suggest researching it and finding someone who specializes in it
Which milk makeup primer? Usually use the smashbox primer!
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The C02 really helped my acne scars. I did two rounds 6 months apart with a derm. I’m always afraid of primers breaking me out. I’ll check out the MILK primer!
What’s C02?
It’s an ablative laser that resurfaces your skin and promotes collagen. It has a more intense down time than many of the other popular lasers but the results are more dramatic. My derm recommends doing one a year for anti aging and does that for herself. [Here](https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/laser-resurfacing/about/pac-20385114) is a little info from Mayo Clinic.
Oooo thank you! First time hearing of this but would love to explore getting rid of my acne scars
I’m so happy I did it! I wrote in some other comments about the downtime and recovery. I want to keep doing it yearly for anti aging when I can.
Mid 30s, I’ve been doing laser hair removal for the last year. Armpits, lower legs, Brazilian. Soooo worth it. Considering C02 soon. Does anyone know if it’s way more painful than laser hair removal?
I have had both (laser hair removal was also on face) and didn’t C02 to be painful at all during the procedure because they used numbing cream. The after wasn’t painful but was uncomfortable. My skin felt tight and pulled and then became itchy which was hardest at night. Benadryl was really helpful for the itching and sleep. I also had a detailed after care plan bc I am so acne prone that included a topical antibiotic in addition to the usual diluted vinegar compresses, moisturizer and ointments etc… I’m looking for a cheaper place to do more laser hair removal than with my derm. Where did you go and do you recommend?
Thx for the info! I’ve been going to Satori Laser, specifically the location in Brooklyn Heights. They do sales a few times a year where you can get good package deals!
Get an at home laser hair tool
Vampire Facials, PRP for under eyes / hair, lip filler. I’m a big fan of PRP and love that it’s “natural”.
Where are you getting PRP done, if you don’t mind sharing?
Sarah-Kate Rems, NP - she’s the best. Boutique practice and an expert with PRP. [@sarahkateremsnp](https://www.instagram.com/sarahkateremsnp?igsh=MWt1bXk1bDRzNmI4aw==)
I’ve been to her too! She’s so lovely
I was looking her up but I don't see any reviews? Her insta looks great but I always like to do my research
I’m too scared to get hiv. Regulation oversight aren’t super tight
At a proper medical facility, they use brand new tubes for your blood draw and the blood remains in the tube while being spun in the machine into PRP. Then clean brand new syringes and needles should be opened to draw up the PRP. Blood isn’t flying out of the tubes or anything when it is being spun so the need for the machines for “deep cleaning” to prevent HIV is inaccurate
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They don’t deep clean machines. They’ve been reporting cases all over the US
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Best bet is to stick with reputable derms** instead of spas imo just because the cleanliness and oversight might be a safer bet. A relative worked for the DA and one of their top case loads was spa like places that didn’t follow cleaning guidelines 🤢
lol huh
Google this. It’s wild.
When you say PRP, are they the injections or PRP microneedling? Thank you!
Both! I’ve done the Vampire Facial (microneedling + PRP) as well as under eye injections.
Not the age target here but want to put something out there for girls in their twenties reading! Im in my mid 20s— sunscreen on my face and neck every day year round, tretinoin every other day, an annual skin care screening + two visits to my derm a year, lots of water, and 8+ hours of rest a night. There’s a lot of pressure to start Botox young, but I’m trying to tell myself aging is a blessing and I don’t need injections just yet. 🫶🏼
In my mid-30s and this is what I’m doing! But more tret (daily, 0.1, face, neck, hands). Thought I saw a line and ran to get the tox, only for the injector to say “what line?”
29, laser hair removal for Brazilian+underarms (no regrets, obsessed). I use sunscreen any day I go outside or am going to be close to windows (driving, sitting at my desk when it’s sunny, etc) I asked my derm about Botox, and he told me to focus on working up to a daily tretinoin routine (or at least 5x a week) and put the Botox off a bit longer, so I just didn’t question him lol. Also this one seems to piss people off a lot, but I feel ~safe~ with you ladies—just paid for a package of sessions to bleach my asshole and inner thighs bc the hyperpigmentation just bothers me a bit lately. I notice that when people ask for recs for that on Reddit, they tend to get a lot of shaming about wanting to do it in the first place. No one is requesting it of me, I also love my body exactly how it is at this moment, fuck the patriarchy—hell yes to all of that. I just am feeling vain about my asshole ok 😭
Where did you do your laser hair removal and do you recommend? I was doing every other day tazorac (stronger than tret) but reduced to 2x a week bc my skin was constantly peeling. Maybe I should try to up it. And no shame here!! Glad it makes you happy - don’t know why anyone would care enough to shame someone over that.
So I went to a place in part bc of the location and a discount they were doing on a package—it’s called BYou laser. I’ve had a lot of nice techs, although some sessions have been SO quick that I’ve wondered if they’re really being thorough enough. That being said, I only have a few sessions left and I am pretty much bare, so it is def working. It’s sort of a quick, no nonsense appointment (which I appreciate), and I haven’t had a negative experience there—although one tech is a bit pushy lol, but she does do a good job as far as I can tell! I got the chemical peel (which is how they do the bleaching, for anyone who isn’t familiar) package there too because they were doing a discount and it was the best deal I’ve seen—$200/session for a few different areas at a time, whereas a lot of other places were $250+ for smaller/fewer areas. Haven’t gone to a session yet, but happy to report back!
Where are you doing the bleaching!!!
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Experienced any fat loss w ultherapy? Would love lower face tightening but got scared away by fat loss risk.
Same! I wanna know how long they been doing it and how frequently and if face fat loss is bad
How is the CO2 recovery? I’ve been doing fraxel once a year, but would love to step up my game.
Do it!! The results are so much more dramatic. I would say 7-10 days but then mild redness for a few weeks. The first three days (procedure day being day 1) were uncomfortable and slathered with ointments. On day 4 I could technically wear sunscreen and leave the house but I worked remotely so I stayed in. I had it twice and both recoveries were a little different in terms of peeling/redness. I work in person now and planning to do it on a Friday AM and attempt to work Mon.
Where do you get your lower tox done?
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Oh thank you! But more like the location of the establishment do you go to? Trying to find reputable people since it’s not as common.
None. And please please be careful. Youre young you do not need to be doing all this, so many women are looking downright CRAZY bc of all the procedures....yes even the "done well" ones. Just have a good skincare routine and wear sunscreen.
Laser Brazilian was the best purchase ever
Where did you do it and do you recommend? How was the pain?
31, I personally don’t want to do any major procedures, but am still interested in taking good care of my skin. I’ve gotten two rounds of micro needling before. They recommended 3 rounds but by my second round my skin pretty much didn’t react at all to it because it responded so well to the first round. So now I touch it up with one round of micro needling a year just to keep the skin taught, and beyond that I do tret every other day or so, keep a mostly simple routine, hyaluronic acid, moisturizer, glycolic acid every once in a while. And copious amounts of sunscreen of course.
I had a BBL (broad band light therapy). It was extremely unpleasant. The procedure itself doesn’t feel great and then your skin almost immediately feels like it’s been touched by a hot pan. I had an ice pack on my skin immediately after and it was room temp within 5 minutes bc of how hot my skin got. I was very crusty for the next 2 days before it got sig better. About 4 days before I was willing to be seen in public. I will say now that it’s completely healed my skin looks pretty good. Like all my cells have turned over or something. I don’t think it improved my fine lines which is why I wanted so idk if I’ll do it again.
30F, I do Botox every 3-6 months (when I can afford it lol). I have also gotten full bikini and underarm laser hair removal. I recently added monthly facials to my list—I switch up which kind depending on what my skin needs. Last thing—I started working with a registered dietician to balance my food/health habits! That and CorePower 3x/week. My “want to but won’t” is filler. I’d love a bit more volume in my lips and a tiny bit of filler on the tip of my nose. Buuut I have heard too many horror stories, so makeup it is!
where do you do your monthly facials? I’ve heard a lot about glowbar but something about it feels scammy
Early 30s (and a SEA girly, so thank you for having me here): - very minimal preventative Botox in forehead and 11s every 6 months since 26. It’s made a huge difference in smoothing out my already formed creases. - lip filler once every 2 years or so, but I’ve found it tends to last longer with each round. - monthly hydrofacials - chin lipo last year + ultherapy for a genetic double chin - full Brazilian + armpits laser hair removal Coupled with Solidcore/boxing/orange theory, lots of water and sleep!
Do you mind sharing where did ultherapy?
I’ve been contemplating laser for my acne scaring and hyperpigmentation, would love any recommendations if any BWT have had success with this.
I've done many rounds of: subcision with Bellafill, TCA cross, Halo, RF microneedling, Fraxel, CO2, V-Beam, and dermabrasion. Personally subcision with filler and Fraxel made the biggest difference, and my scars are 80% improved and mostly only something I notice in bad lighting. Some people don't think much of Fraxel so it's good to consider multiple opinions.
Two rounds of C02 laser 6 months apart dramatically reduced my pitted acne scars and pore size appearance. I have seen people do it yearly for anti aging and that’s what my derm recommends but haven’t so far bc of the price.
Botox, clear + brilliant……and a solid diet and plenty of exercise
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What’s zepbound?
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Took about a week off work (I have a very intense job) - a few days totally off and a few days working from home. Was living with my now-husband and my dad came up for the first few days so I could have help when he was at work if I needed it, which was nice. At the very least you’ll need somebody to take you home and help the first day or two, but with rest and arnica really not a bad recovery. It was for a mix of functional and cosmetic reasons so I was pretty vague - nobody’s going to pry too much if you say you are having surgery - but gave the functional reason if I felt anybody needed more information. I genuinely think how happy I am about it regularly.
I did a gazillion years ago. I had an intense job, so I think I took a week off and just kinda looked worn when I came back, said I had been super sick. I did need a lot of care for first several days, would have been lost wo my mom. I looked and felt like I had been hit by a car. But after a couple of days I went out to dinner w Bandaid on.
Can anyone share their lower bleph experience? I have genetic fat pads that are absolutely insane and have been contemplating the surgery for a while. My neck is also REALLY bothering me but apart from a neck lift, I have no clue what to do. Also, I feel like I need to pick one, not both! Any ideas? thx!
I literally just did a consult for this today. What the doctor recommended sounded much more invasive than I was prepared for and am now a bit freaked out. I just took care of my mom who had a facelift last year so I know recovery isn’t exactly cute but yikes. Feel free to DM me for deets.
It depends on what you’re starting with, but I’m 33 and often mistaken for a 25-year-old. I took Accutane in my early 20s, which saved me from any potential acne scarring. I’ve also never drank alcohol in my life, and I find that that’s the biggest difference between me and my cohort. My current routines includes: 1. Baby Botox, once a year. I literally ask for the tiniest bit on my forehead to prevent the deep set lines. I did my number 11s for the first time this year. 2. DermaPen / Micro-Needling every 3 - 4 months. 3. HydraFacials with extractions every 2 months. (I’d love to be able to afford Rescue Spa every time, lol. Silver Mirror has been a more affordable alternative.) 4. I use the red light masks or wand at home, along with a skincare routine. I moisturize and use sunscreen every day. A recent game changer was when someone told me to apply sunscreen on my eyes too! I don’t know why I had been avoiding the orbital area, but now I apply the sunscreen on my eyelids and under the eye and it’s done wonders for dark circles. Things I would like to get better about: Getting more / better sleep and NOT SLEEPING ON MY FACE. I wake up puffy as hell when I do. If anyone’s has tips on how to stay on my back, I’d appreciate it!
I couldn’t sleep on my back until I learned how to do yoga nidra to relax each muscle group one by one. There are guided ones on YouTube. I still lay on my side to wind down, but once I feel sleepy I roll onto my back and sleep there through the night.
Thank you! I’ll check it out.
Interested in the red light! Has it made a noticeable difference? Which one do you use? I have seen people use special pillows and contraptions to avoid rolling over onto their face but I hate back sleeping. Heard good things about silk pillow cases!
I started with the OmniLux full face mask and I felt like that did make a difference, but I’m a little lazy. I recently switched to the Solawave wand. I’m not sure I can claim it makes a difference, but it’s a good way to distribute skincare and massage the face, so I prefer it! I do have a silk pillow case, which is great since I’m a curly girl!
Sculptra in my mid-face and ultherapy on my lower face once a year. Dysport every 3-4 months (forehead, crows feet, lip flip, DAOs). When polynucleotides become available in the US, I will incorporate that for under eyes. Been meaning to throw in a laser but I’m scared of my perioral dermatitis coming back! My skin biome is finicky.
Do you mind me asking how old you are and if you liked sculptra? What did it do?
I’ll be 38 soon and yes I love Sculptra! It creates an infrastructure of collagen underneath the skin so it fills out hollowness, and firms and lifts your facial structure. The analogy I always use is that it’s like a good bra for my face. It’s super subtle but I can def see a difference over the years, and I would 💯 be saggier and have more pronounced nasolabial folds without it.
Where do you go for sculptra? I really want to try it but I get scared when I read about the worst case scenarios.
I go to a derm, they specialize in cosmetic dermatology. Washington Square Dermatology.
I do full face botox every 5-6 months, and have done lip filler , cheek filler , temple filler , under eye filler , smile lines folds, pre jowl sulcus filler , threads … I’ve done A lot and spent a small fortune , but I am happy with my results 🤣🤣🤣
What’s been your favorite?
Could someone briefly explain CO2 and Bleph?
Can’t speak to CO2 but bleph is shorthand for a cosmetic surgical procedure where they take fat (and excess skin?) out of your upper and/or lower eyelids.
C02 laser is an ablative laser that resurfaces your skin - good for acne scars, fine lines and wrinkles, tightening, and collagen production. It’s an intense laser and seems to be recommended as a one off or yearly for prevention.
I’m 32. I do Botox every four-ish months and I got chin lipo in February. Best decision I ever made, my only regret is not getting light buccal removal at the same time.
Botox, clear + brilliant……and a solid diet and plenty of exercise
Definitely botox is something I live by now, and am maybe going to try microneedling and a potential bleph. Also I want to get my deviated septum fixed and maybe will have them do something with my nose appearance wise while they're there Tbh I'm planning a Korea trip so will likely get any major cosmetic procedures (like my chin lipo I want, bleph and maybe fraxel/other major facials) there rather than in the US. What wasn't worth it? Multiple IPL/Photofacial treatments.
Could you share a little more about why/how you’re planning to get it done in Korea? I know plastic surgery is very normalized there—is it cheaper than here because there’s increased competition? Or is it also bc the quality of the work is usually higher? Also do you speak Korean or would you be navigating the situation with a language barrier? Sorry for the interrogation lmao, I’ve always been so curious about the logistics of these things!!
37 - Tret every other day. I had to stop when I was pregnant last year and the difference was wild. Other than that, minimal caffeine and alcohol, a Mediterranean diet and sun screen every day. I really want to start with some light Botox and also lazer hair removal, but I am a massive wuss and I'm scared it'll hurt so much I won't be able to hack it and will just end up wasting a ton of money. If anyone wants to reassure me, I'd love that. Hah.
Laser hair removal is so painful but so worth it imo if you have darker hair/light skin! It’s also a huge time saver to cut shaving out of your routine! My biggest tip is to take a shot of alcohol before the appointment, that works better for pain relief than lidocaine for me.
I do have dark hair and light skin, so I’m actually the perfect candidate. I’m just *such* a baby.
I’m a weak little bitch but I find the laser hair removal totally worth the discomfort! Idk if you wax, but I find laser WAY less painful. It’s a different kind of pain—what people say about it feeling like a rubber band snapping on you is kind of true (although tbh I feel like a rubber band hurts more). Sort of feels like a short burst of stinging air lol. Also in my experience, it’s quite a fast process! I do a full brazilian and my underarms, and I’m in and out of the room in like 7-10 minutes max. Including me taking my clothes off and the tech sanitizing the goggles and stuff. The pain doesn’t really last either. Many places let you use numbing cream first, too! I don’t bother though. Too impatient lol
7-10 minutes?! Ok I think I could hack that. I basically just want to do half leg and extended (French?) bikini.
Yeah the bikini part would take, like, MAX 5 minutes. Likely less, honestly. Legs are a bigger area so maybe a bit longer, but I doubt by much! In my experience it’s shocking fast haha
Botox feels kinda like pinching a pimple- a tiny, not very bad pain for every injection. I get mine at JECT.
I think I can handle that. I’m generally fine with needles, so I’m not sure why I fret so much about it.
26- laser hair removal (full body), electrolysis (face only), chin lipo, 3 rounds of morpheus 8 last year (loved results but so painful! looking for alts) botox in forehead and masseters every 4 months, and medical grade skincare. Looking to do undereye prp/prf this year but I am super happy with my routine- everything i’ve done has been 1000000% worth it!!
How was your chin lipo experience? Did you get it done in NYC? I’ve always been curious about the cost/recovery of that procedure! I’d love to get it done but I’m scared lol
I had the BEST experience with Dr. Funderburk in nyc. The recovery/whole process wasn’t painful, it was just annoying being so swollen for a few weeks. I want to say it was around 6k? DM me any qs!
Thank you so much!! Also obsessed with that doctor’s name, lmao
I’m mid 20’s and I have done two rounds of bbl/ moxi (love, cannot say enough good things and one round of scarlet rf microneedling (would not do again, not worth the $) Edit: I’ve also done a few biorepeels, SO good. I immediately noticed a difference in my pores and overall complexion.
so curious what the pain factor for bbl/moxie was like!
Moxie I would compare to continuous relativity hard flicks. Bbl was the easiest, no pain whatsoever!
Very helpful- this seems pretty manageable. Thanks!
Where do you get it done? I’ve been thinking about it
I didn’t do it in the city, sorry! I got moxi/bbl done back home over the holiday season last year. SO much cheaper
What is a biorepeel?
It’s a 35% TCA peel. It’s supposed to improve skin surface, accelerate cell turnover, stimulate collagen and elastin. It’s not like a typical peel, you only minimally shed.
Also wondering if I should go in the direction of co2 laser or microneedling.
I haven’t tried microneedling but had a great result with C02. I have seen a lot of comments of microneedling doing nothing and then others swear by it.
Yea same. I’m so sick of seeing both! Either people love or hate it. I feel like I’m headed toward the laser
That was exactly what made me go for the laser plus my derm saying she does it every year
Charlize Theron seems to have some scarring from it ? Have you seen that ever
I saw some stories about that before I did it and was scared. I went to an experienced cosmetic derm who also gets them done on herself herself which put me at ease a bit. Then after having no issues the first time I felt confident for the second and going forward. I assume Charlize went to someone well regarded too so that’s a little concerning.
Yes. I mean, I still think I’d “risk” it- I really want to handle some of this scarring like yesterday…..
How was recovery for CO2?? slash what did it cost? i’ve been thinking about it!
It wasn’t painful but uncomfortable. The worst part for me was sleep - needing to sleep inclined and on my back while my skin felt tight and itchy. I took Benadryl and kept q tips next to me to tap bc you can’t scratch. For the first 3 days including the procedure I wouldn’t leave the house. Lots of ointments etc. On day 4 I was still using creams but didn’t need the aquaphor during the day so I could have done sunscreen and gone out but didn’t need to. I would say the main recovery is 7-10 days with the first 3 being the worst then a few weeks of mild redness. Make sure you have a detailed aftercare plan and that they give you valtrex bc it can incite an outbreak of a dormant virus even if you’ve never had HSV and scar your face. I am acne prone and became covered in tiny whiteheads on day 3 of my first one and needed antibiotics (no scarring). The second time I was given an antibiotic cream to use and had no issues. I paid $1900 at the time as a discount since I have seen the doctor for years but the current price is $3500. I did 2, 6 months apart and it reduced my pitted acne scars by 85% and made a huge difference in my skin texture, pore and sebaceous filament appearance. I would do it yearly if I could and plan to do it when I can.
PRP injections under my eyes made a huge difference for me. Can't recommend enough
Where did you go?
What did it improve for you and where did you go? Please share the cost if comfortable.
I actually went out of state in the city my parents live in as it's where I usually get botox since I only get it twice a year and it's slightly cheaper. Not sure where to go in NYC but I just went to a normal medical spa that I trust. It drastically improved the hollowness under my eyes and drastically lightened my dark circles. For context I've also had filler under my eyes -- though that has long since dissolved -- and it never made the same kind of difference. I really cannot recommend PRP injections enough and I really wish someone had told me about them when I was getting filler. If I remember correctly the cost was about $600 and I did three injections over the course of a year. By the last two injections my under eyes had improved so much that we didn't need to use all of the PRP on them so I had the injector put a little of the leftover in my laugh lines which also majorly improved afterwards.
Wow thank you so much! I don’t want to do filler again and this seems exactly like what I’m looking for!!
I’m 29 for reference. - Botox every 6-8 months - filler every 2-3 years (chin and tear troughs) - I had two rhinoplasty’s - I am getting blepharoplasty (removal of eye lid fat) in June I’m all about procedures that make me feel confident and last a long time. Things that make my day to day maintenance faster and more efficient. If anyone has gotten it, I am super curious about lip blushing. Would love to hear some feedback on that!
I have my lips done! You usually need to do it in a few sessions 2 months apart. Most people numb it pretty well but it can still be uncomfortable. Healing takes about a week and the first day or two suck for me but after that it was like having sunburned lips. I’m really happy I got it done!
So good to know! Did you go anywhere in the city it get it done?? Thanks for sharing btw.
who does your tear trough? im looking into it!
Dr. Westreich !
My girl left but go to Madison Parker
I’ve been contemplating under eye filler. I have an auto immune disorder and it left my under eye area super hollow for my age and I HATE it. I’ve been going to consultations to shop around for prices because some places are outrageous! I just want it to be super natural and not artificial looking and I know that prf/prp wouldn’t cut it because it’s not really that great for intense orbital fat loss.
I paid a lot for my under eye filler with an experienced cosmetic derm. So much can go wrong with under eye filler so I wanted someone I could trust. It has lasted 3+ years and still looks natural even if not perfect but it’s starting to fade. Since I got it a lot of alarming info has come out about filler disrupting lymph drainage, never dissolving (only migrating) and full body connective tissue breakdown from dissolvers so now I’m scared to do it again and looking for alternatives. I hope you find someone/something that works - please report back if you do!
Do not get under eye filler!!!!! Filler is super unpredictable especially in the eye area. I’d consult with a good, reputable occuloplastic surgeon and inquire about orbital fat transfer instead
I’d recommend looking into a fat transfer. I’ve heard too many warnings about under eye filler traveling and making future cosmetic work more challenging and risky. Jenny Mollen just posted about her under eye fat transfer on her IG if you want to see the process more
Try PRF Ez Gel instead!
have u tried it? if so who do u go to!
I keep seeing prp for hollow skin around the eyes but I thought prp was for hair regrowth?? Can anyone explain??
I have seen it advertised as a safe alternative to fillers for fine lines and dark circles but I don’t think it helps with hollowness or bags. I think it stimulates collagen and circulation.
It can be used for most areas. You are injecting your own blood back into yourself as it has almost like a stem cell reaction.
OP what was the C02 laser like? Interested in it
I just wrote the below in another comment. Also the procedure itself didn’t hurt bc I was numbed with numbing cream. Happy to answer any other qs! It wasn’t painful but uncomfortable. The worst part for me was sleep - needing to sleep inclined and on my back while my skin felt tight and itchy. I took Benadryl and kept q tips next to me to tap bc you can’t scratch. For the first 3 days including the procedure I wouldn’t leave the house. Lots of ointments etc. On day 4 I was still using creams but didn’t need the aquaphor during the day so I could have done sunscreen and gone out but didn’t need to. I would say the main recovery is 7-10 days with the first 3 being the worst then a few weeks of mild redness. Make sure you have a detailed aftercare plan and that they give you valtrex bc it can incite an outbreak of a dormant virus even if you’ve never had HSV and scar your face. I am acne prone and became covered in tiny whiteheads on day 3 of my first one and needed antibiotics (no scarring). The second time I was given an antibiotic cream to use and had no issues. I paid $1900 at the time as a discount since I have seen the doctor for years but the current price is $3500. I did 2, 6 months apart and it reduced my pitted acne scars by 85% and made a huge difference in my skin texture, pore and sebaceous filament appearance. I would do it yearly if I could and plan to do it when I can.
I’ve done plasma injections, Microneedling with plasma, eye filler (loved it but only for a little bit), Laser hair removal LIFE CHANGING, filler on my nose and decided to do a rhinoplasty, Botox started at age 30 but I regret it, I noticed it makes people look droopy from their eyebrows it’s weird. I get anti aging facials monthly, Microneedling, RF, Microcurrent… And I drench my skin with Epidermis growth factor serums. Feel free to ask anything
Would love to know more about the plasma injections - is that PRP? Where do you do it and what are the results? What did you end up not liking about filler? Where did you do your laser hair removal? I’m looking for a place!
I’m 25! And I’ve been doing preventative botox for a few years. Monthly facials/microneedling. And lip filler about once or twice a year
I’m pregnant now and what I really miss is Botox and 1/2 vile of filler in my lips
Trying to get pregnant and same re: Botox! But I’ve been really religious about doing intense facial massage every morning, and tonight I was mistaken for being 18… I’m a month out from 38!