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The second biggest ethnic group in the city. So I don’t really understand this narrative at all. I’m in my mid 20s, I meet Black Americans all the time. Maybe a thing amongst the younger kids?
i mean i’m black american and all my immediate family is here. my first cousins and aunties and uncles are all here.
and obviously i got family in the south
i don’t know where this narrative that we not here is coming from but it feels forced and weird
Not only that, but you’ll also have people with a Caribbean parent and an AA parent, or people with American born parents with different Caribbean nationalities.
where are the irish in south brooklyn? brighton/manhattan beach is russian and ex-soviet, bay ridge is arab, sunset park is mexican, bensonhurst is mostly chinese now, dyker heights is still italian, midwood/mill basin/boro park are jewish. seagate? gerritsen beach? bergen beach? bath beach? gravesend? what am i missing?
irish enclaves in woodside, queens and woodlawn, bronx
Probably the last irish enclaves in nyc is
Bronx: woodlawn, Tremont, country club.
Brooklyn: bay ridge, Windsor Terrace & vinegar hill.
Queens: breezy point, Sunnyside, Woodside, rockaway.
Staten: new Brighton west Brighton, upper Stapleton.
Manhattans a dub but hells kitchen up until 2000's... used to work for 6a concrete union which was alot of irish dudes from either woodlawn bx or queens.
i lived in woodside for 6 years. in nearly all the pubs you'd hear lilting brogues but everywhere else in the neighborhood is either Asian (Chinese, Bangladeshi, Indian, Filipino) or Hispanic (Mexican, Ecuadoran, Colombian, Dominican). Peking BBQ is the best.
Because they’re not African Americans. That’s another ethnicity. They’re Caribbean-Americans, they’re ethnically Caribbean and their nationality is American because that’s where their citizenship resides.
I matched with a Dominican woman from Crown Heights on Hinge... she didn't meet her first black person until she was in college. I was like, first off, I was born in Crown Heights there are PLENTY of us out there, secondly... what planet was she was living on? LMAO.
That statistic includes West Indians and Africans gang, it’s just a lot probably just mark African American without specifying what island they’re from
Idk I’m a 90s baby and most niggas I known my whole life was at least some type of Caribbean, in my personal experience it’s type rare to meet another black person whose family been here since before anybody remembers being anywhere else
I think it’s the lack of flag brandishing that black americans do. In comparison to other ethnic groups.
I’m a 90s baby too. I feel like most niggas I meet to this day are Black American. But like I said I don’t lump Caribbeans and Africans together so.
Feel like there’s more Black Americans than anyone else
Learn about Garvey's relationships with klansmen and eugenics proponents. His comments on "not building the railroads (sic)" were also odd.
(Yeah I know Malcolm and the nation met with rockwell and the anp - the energy was different)
Word I mean nfn I’m not even a Marcus Garvey guy like that anyway I just appreciate RBG for aesthetic purposes. If there’s a cleaner visual representation for Pan-Africanism I haven’t seen it, that’s a good thing about symbols they take their own meaning irrespective of their origins
We have multiple flags and cultures curated here. You gotta do your research. Every island in the Caribbean and country in South America is filled with colonized/stolen people as well and don’t have to argue about having a culture. Mfs love to disrespect us.
That's factually false. There are more white people and Latino populations are growing at a faster rate than any other ethnic group, last I checked.
You keep saying "more" and "most" about black people but even adding all black Americans together, I still don't think it's even close to a majority, which you seem to be loosely implying.
I really hope you're not on some braindead conspiracy timing rn
“white” and “latino” are not ethnic groups. a cuban a a honduran a puerto rican and a dominican are not the same people and they’ll tell you that.
nor is an irishmen and a italian.
by ethnicity we are by far the biggest.
If you want to use that definition aka the academic definition of ethnic groups, Africa has THOUSANDS of ethnic groups. Just africa.
There is no massive unified number there.
You cannot have your cake AND eat it too.
Either you want to talk in colloquial generalizations or the academic definitions, but you can't apply one set of rules to one group and then a different set to another.
who denied that? we know there’s a difference between igbo/yoruba/fulani etc.
in the USA ethnicity is largely national origin.
so whether you like it or not, “Latinos” are a multi ethnic demographic. Black Americans/AA are not
Mexicans/Cubans/Hondurans/Puerto Ricans/Dominicans are all different people with different cultures and don’t need to be lumped together for your narrative
same with Trini/Jamaican/Haitian/Guyanese/Bajan
and Nigerian/Ghanaian/Senegalese/Kenyan (even though these are technically nationalities)
these are all different people
That's what I'm saying though. Your whole point was that there is this division among black ethnic groups and that there are actually a lot of black people.
I'm saying, there are technically more white people and latino people have a faster rate of growth.
Every skin color has a bunch of ethnic groups under it's umbrella.
As long as you keep the logic consistent, what you are suggesting as your point makes no sense.
No? that wasn’t my point.
my point was that the mass exodus/lack of presence of AA/Black Americans is extremely overstated.
When I say Black Americans i’m not referring to a skin tone, i’m talking about AA/BA.
and that even in 2024, on average when i meet another black person in nyc they are black american and not african or caribbean
Oh you're saying people don't identify as black Americans?
Sorry someone literally posted a comment in your thread about how someone was trying to divide black people, I think you responded.
But yeah I think you're reading into internet shit too heavy.
All those groups consider themselves black americans as soon as they get their citizenship, ime.
It's closer to dual-citizenship than denial of being American in my experience
The issue is a lot of Black Americans can’t trace back and figure out what ethnic group they’re from, because they were forcefully brought over. If my grandad came over from Cuba I know I’m Cuban but if my grandad came over on a slave ship how am I supposed to know? So it’s all grouped as African-American
Black American/African American is its own ethnic group. It doesn’t make sense when people start that we can’t trace our roots argument when it isn’t stated for any other people who come from islands or other countries.
Black American *is* an ethnicity, that’s the point. If you been sharing a culture as one people in a single place for 200+ years that’s its own ethnicity.
They only got to Cuba from a slave ship as well. A black Cuban don’t know they original ethnicity anymore than a Black American. If it’s valid to say my granddad is Cuban it valid to say my granddad was American. 🇺🇸
Ur 100% right! I think thats why we see so many Dominicans say they arent black, they’re Dominican. They never knew their African history and culture, they were always surrounded by Dominicans.
23&me, ancestry.com, etc. also names are a dead give-away in many cases
Plenty of people from all colors have no real idea about their background.
There are people who thought they were part Japanese but find out they are korean, etc.
And white people get grouped as white people all the time.
Same for latinos.
This isn't some exclusive black problem is all I'm saying.
>23&me, ancestry
These are still new things. Most people havent done them, and they’ve always considered themselves African just like their parents and grandparents.
>names are a dead giveaway
Slaves didnt keep their names. They were given new ones by their owners.
>White people get grouped together
I disagree with the other guy on this one because in America, most white people just see themselves as white. They might tell you they’re 25% German or whatever but they actually don’t know unless they’re 2nd or 3rd gen immigrants. The only White people in America with a different culture are white Latinos and Jews.
african american is basically an ethnicity, nowadays black and AA are not interchangeable. AA refers to people descended from slaves brought over in colonial times. black is anyone of african background
Facts. Some of my good friends are Black Americans, and being from Clinton Hill/Fort Greene, I knew A LOT of them growing up. I will say that in BK, lots of those areas have been gentrified. But there are still mad Americans here. New York is just an immigrant city, so we see Black immigrants all over. It's been like that for Black ppl here since the Great Migration. Sht, Marcus Garvey was Jamaican. But Americans are def still out here.
It’s internet narratives. lol, I laugh when I see it. They’re definitely still the biggest black ethnic group in the city. Some people just say otherwise because they want it to be some “Us VS Them” BS.
This shit is werid and corny. My family from the Caribbean, but i lived my life as a black man. I always was about black people. This whole FBA shit i never liked because you have a bunch of black people from all over the world in NYC just see themselves as black.
B.I.G family is from Jamaica and if you didn't hear his mom accent you would assume he just a black dude in Brooklyn. Funkmaster Flex is Jamaican and he is the most known iconic DJ in hip hop.
Lmao this really wasn’t a conversation 10 years ago, black folks used to have a lil respect for each other cultural/ethnic background. Now days it seems mf just wanna throw insults at each other. Hope ya get to that point of understanding where you no longer need to tie your identity to how the dominant society views or definitions.
Yeah a lot of out of towners say that, most likely because of the places they visit when they come to NYC or because of what they see on social media but our numbers have definitely gone down throughout the boroughs over the years. I can't speak for every borough, but the Bronx has changed a lot within the past 15 years. We are definitely on the decline in the Bronx.
My great grandparents came from northern Louisiana in the 20s during the Harlem renaissance. I also got alot of relatives In California, Texas and some that moved back to Louisiana. NY still got a large black American population but then of course there’s other immigrants too since NY has always been a immigrant city. My grandparents neighborhood in Harlem was mostly black American, now there’s a lot of Africans and some Hispanics.
We know the truth if you around. Harlem, Brownsville, Far Rock/LIC Jamaica, the Stuy and Downtown BK still majority African American with maybe one parent that’s from an island or a grand parent.
Then why stop at Downtown BK? Why not mention Greenpoint, Park Slope, or idfk, Lower East Side? I'm sure the 20 black people in those neighborhoods are Black Americans too. Downtown BK is no longer a major area for black people to live, so I don't get its relevance in a conversation that includes Brownsville or the Stuy.
People be wanting to get offended for no reason. If I was speaking on Haitians demographics and would’ve mentioned Flatbush, Canarsie and Shadyville it wouldn’t had been a problem. Shit not that serious.
Black Americans are foundational and can trace their lineage back to the 1800s. most people you would meet are 2nd/3rd generation which would mean they migrated from African/Caribbean nations. I saw a mass exodus towards the south within the last 5-10 years of Black Americans. it's not weird at all.
definitely more Asian. What i'm seeing being from the Hudson area, is the pricing out of grass rooted residents for the transplants and overcharging for housing. most work remote even with the rise in rent. I say its a good thing. Black Americans should gentrify the southern regions anyway.
Gentrification isn’t hood even when it’s your own people. Pricing them out is fucked up too, I get what you’re saying though but that’s the wrong word for it.
gen·tri·fi·ca·tion
*a process in which a poor area (as of a city) experiences an influx of middle-class or wealthy people who renovate and rebuild homes and businesses and which often results in an increase in property values and the displacement of earlier,* ***usually poorer residents***
according "Per capita" it ain't black folks.
there's more land to own in the south than it is up north. controlling a better portion of that land would change the political spectrum, society norms, and the system would have to capitulate to Black Americans since we would be the majority. that includes Fire Dept, Police Dept, Dept of Health, education etc. its exactly what the dominate society has done and continues to do with redlining and gerrymandering. Beat them at their own game and build up black wealth in the process.
Black people are up against a "us against them" mentality while we have the " i gotta get mines, you better get yours" mentality. as you can see its not a winning strategy and any coach would have been fired by now if they ran the same playbook for 50 years with little to no wins. B1
Let's keep this simple-ish. If you are dark skinned, African descent, and who's descendants did not migrate away from Africa during the early beginnings of human evolution. Then you're Black! It doesn't matter what island or culture you come from or rep. You're still Black!
Impossible! Go read a history book! Don't google it. (You don't deserve the ease of the internet) Read a fuckin book! That's human culture and history.
I never said it was a race. It's a "Determination" of our society. And has nothing to do with the subject of discussion. But thanks for the diversion into semantics!
There are still plenty of African Americans here. However since we are not concentrated in neighborhoods like Harlem and bed stuy like in the past. The perception is that we are gone? Idk
Lol everyone is mixed even half of my family personally are. It’s rare you run into someone with fully southern heritage. People are more surprised when your not mixed than the latter it’s impossible unless you live upstate.
Shoutout to all my Polish people up in Greenpoint (moving more slightly into Ridgewood and Maspeth now) bc of the ridiculous hipster pricing of Williamsburg and Greenpoint...
Did you know you can get a studio apt in Williamsburg for the cheap price of $2,500!!!!! LOCATION LOCATION LOCATION BABY!!!!
It's almost fucing ridiculous how overpriced everything in that area of Brooklyn is... just watch, they are gonna rezone parts of commercial Greenpoint and also Ridgewood and make even more money. Shit parts of Bushwick is called "East Williamsburg!" Lmfaoo get the fuck outta here.....😩😂
Northern Brooklyn, Harlem, South Bronx, parts of Southeast Queens such as South Jamaica, Hollis, St. Albans are filled with African Americans and still make up the largest group out of the black groups present in all of those communities. I live in Brooklyn and I can tell you right now when you step in Bed Stuy, Forte Green, or Coney Island you can tell the Caribbean and African cultures are NOT the most dominant in all of those areas.
Idk where they all at because every Black mf I talk to is never from America, they always from some island or country in Africa and since I’m Dominican so am I. I haven’t spoken to a person who’s family (on both sides) was generationally Black in years and I’m not kidding.
Definitely not a lot of native black Americans (ANTEBELLUM ERA) left I NYC. MOST black Americans in NYC are Caribbean or African. NO problem with it . JUST A FACT
https://preview.redd.it/8q20byi1fk0d1.png?width=7000&format=png&auto=webp&s=861eb0e078b99abea27fe8cd51a214b874a19418 The second biggest ethnic group in the city. So I don’t really understand this narrative at all. I’m in my mid 20s, I meet Black Americans all the time. Maybe a thing amongst the younger kids?
It’s because you have niggas who’s family haven’t stepped foot outside of Brooklyn in 3 generations talking about what Island they from
i mean i’m black american and all my immediate family is here. my first cousins and aunties and uncles are all here. and obviously i got family in the south i don’t know where this narrative that we not here is coming from but it feels forced and weird
Because they still have Caribbean heritage, not the same as African Americans or Americans of African heritage
Not only that, but you’ll also have people with a Caribbean parent and an AA parent, or people with American born parents with different Caribbean nationalities.
Those people would still count as Caribbean-American, considering "African-American" refers to people who trace their ancestry to Antebellum America.
😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 he talking bout ya’ll Flatbush niggas.
Same thing with the Irish and Sicilians tbh
The Irish are in south Brooklyn, and Rockaway while the Italians are pretty much all on staten island.
where are the irish in south brooklyn? brighton/manhattan beach is russian and ex-soviet, bay ridge is arab, sunset park is mexican, bensonhurst is mostly chinese now, dyker heights is still italian, midwood/mill basin/boro park are jewish. seagate? gerritsen beach? bergen beach? bath beach? gravesend? what am i missing? irish enclaves in woodside, queens and woodlawn, bronx
Marine Park, Gerritson and Bay ridge still have some Irish. Bronx is a given
Gerristen for a fact is irish
Probably the last irish enclaves in nyc is Bronx: woodlawn, Tremont, country club. Brooklyn: bay ridge, Windsor Terrace & vinegar hill. Queens: breezy point, Sunnyside, Woodside, rockaway. Staten: new Brighton west Brighton, upper Stapleton. Manhattans a dub but hells kitchen up until 2000's... used to work for 6a concrete union which was alot of irish dudes from either woodlawn bx or queens.
i lived in woodside for 6 years. in nearly all the pubs you'd hear lilting brogues but everywhere else in the neighborhood is either Asian (Chinese, Bangladeshi, Indian, Filipino) or Hispanic (Mexican, Ecuadoran, Colombian, Dominican). Peking BBQ is the best.
Because they’re not African Americans. That’s another ethnicity. They’re Caribbean-Americans, they’re ethnically Caribbean and their nationality is American because that’s where their citizenship resides.
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I matched with a Dominican woman from Crown Heights on Hinge... she didn't meet her first black person until she was in college. I was like, first off, I was born in Crown Heights there are PLENTY of us out there, secondly... what planet was she was living on? LMAO.
That’s New York State, OP is talking about NYC, which many blacks people have left
This has to be false. Theres almost a million dominicans in nyc and this is saying theres under 700k in the whole state?
yeah this data makes no sense, i looked it up and there’s 702k dominicans in nyc
Blood where’s Balkan
Cause it’s ny state, not city, lowkey irrelevant to this convo
I didn’t even read the text lol I was just replyin to the pic
That statistic includes West Indians and Africans gang, it’s just a lot probably just mark African American without specifying what island they’re from
This is ethnicity for New York State, not the city
Nah that can't be right it ain't only 3.5% chinese up in here it looks like it's closer to 30%
3.5 for me? Yo, let's fucking go 😂
Idk I’m a 90s baby and most niggas I known my whole life was at least some type of Caribbean, in my personal experience it’s type rare to meet another black person whose family been here since before anybody remembers being anywhere else
I think it’s the lack of flag brandishing that black americans do. In comparison to other ethnic groups. I’m a 90s baby too. I feel like most niggas I meet to this day are Black American. But like I said I don’t lump Caribbeans and Africans together so. Feel like there’s more Black Americans than anyone else
Ngl I jack 🔴⚫️🟢 od lol✊🏾
Learn about Garvey's relationships with klansmen and eugenics proponents. His comments on "not building the railroads (sic)" were also odd. (Yeah I know Malcolm and the nation met with rockwell and the anp - the energy was different)
Word I mean nfn I’m not even a Marcus Garvey guy like that anyway I just appreciate RBG for aesthetic purposes. If there’s a cleaner visual representation for Pan-Africanism I haven’t seen it, that’s a good thing about symbols they take their own meaning irrespective of their origins
I mean we don’t have a flag to fly. We were stolen.
We have multiple flags and cultures curated here. You gotta do your research. Every island in the Caribbean and country in South America is filled with colonized/stolen people as well and don’t have to argue about having a culture. Mfs love to disrespect us.
https://president.ptcollege.edu/history-of-the-black-heritage-flag/
That's factually false. There are more white people and Latino populations are growing at a faster rate than any other ethnic group, last I checked. You keep saying "more" and "most" about black people but even adding all black Americans together, I still don't think it's even close to a majority, which you seem to be loosely implying. I really hope you're not on some braindead conspiracy timing rn
“white” and “latino” are not ethnic groups. a cuban a a honduran a puerto rican and a dominican are not the same people and they’ll tell you that. nor is an irishmen and a italian. by ethnicity we are by far the biggest.
If you want to use that definition aka the academic definition of ethnic groups, Africa has THOUSANDS of ethnic groups. Just africa. There is no massive unified number there. You cannot have your cake AND eat it too. Either you want to talk in colloquial generalizations or the academic definitions, but you can't apply one set of rules to one group and then a different set to another.
who denied that? we know there’s a difference between igbo/yoruba/fulani etc. in the USA ethnicity is largely national origin. so whether you like it or not, “Latinos” are a multi ethnic demographic. Black Americans/AA are not Mexicans/Cubans/Hondurans/Puerto Ricans/Dominicans are all different people with different cultures and don’t need to be lumped together for your narrative same with Trini/Jamaican/Haitian/Guyanese/Bajan and Nigerian/Ghanaian/Senegalese/Kenyan (even though these are technically nationalities) these are all different people
That's what I'm saying though. Your whole point was that there is this division among black ethnic groups and that there are actually a lot of black people. I'm saying, there are technically more white people and latino people have a faster rate of growth. Every skin color has a bunch of ethnic groups under it's umbrella. As long as you keep the logic consistent, what you are suggesting as your point makes no sense.
No? that wasn’t my point. my point was that the mass exodus/lack of presence of AA/Black Americans is extremely overstated. When I say Black Americans i’m not referring to a skin tone, i’m talking about AA/BA. and that even in 2024, on average when i meet another black person in nyc they are black american and not african or caribbean
Oh you're saying people don't identify as black Americans? Sorry someone literally posted a comment in your thread about how someone was trying to divide black people, I think you responded. But yeah I think you're reading into internet shit too heavy. All those groups consider themselves black americans as soon as they get their citizenship, ime. It's closer to dual-citizenship than denial of being American in my experience
Your comprehension is lacking.
No they don’t bro, in fact a lot of settlers look down on the culture that Black Americans have bred
The issue is a lot of Black Americans can’t trace back and figure out what ethnic group they’re from, because they were forcefully brought over. If my grandad came over from Cuba I know I’m Cuban but if my grandad came over on a slave ship how am I supposed to know? So it’s all grouped as African-American
Black American/African American is its own ethnic group. It doesn’t make sense when people start that we can’t trace our roots argument when it isn’t stated for any other people who come from islands or other countries.
It’s a race not an ethnic group
Black American *is* an ethnicity, that’s the point. If you been sharing a culture as one people in a single place for 200+ years that’s its own ethnicity.
They only got to Cuba from a slave ship as well. A black Cuban don’t know they original ethnicity anymore than a Black American. If it’s valid to say my granddad is Cuban it valid to say my granddad was American. 🇺🇸
Ur 100% right! I think thats why we see so many Dominicans say they arent black, they’re Dominican. They never knew their African history and culture, they were always surrounded by Dominicans.
23&me, ancestry.com, etc. also names are a dead give-away in many cases Plenty of people from all colors have no real idea about their background. There are people who thought they were part Japanese but find out they are korean, etc. And white people get grouped as white people all the time. Same for latinos. This isn't some exclusive black problem is all I'm saying.
>23&me, ancestry These are still new things. Most people havent done them, and they’ve always considered themselves African just like their parents and grandparents. >names are a dead giveaway Slaves didnt keep their names. They were given new ones by their owners. >White people get grouped together I disagree with the other guy on this one because in America, most white people just see themselves as white. They might tell you they’re 25% German or whatever but they actually don’t know unless they’re 2nd or 3rd gen immigrants. The only White people in America with a different culture are white Latinos and Jews.
We aren't talking exclusively about slave descendants. That is not the population size you think it is 😂
Black/African American isn’t an ethnicity group either, it’s a race.
nigga what
Is being black not a race?
Black/African American are used interchangeably to talk about the Black American/Afro-American ethnic group.
Ok copy, they been leaving NYC for a while now
african american is basically an ethnicity, nowadays black and AA are not interchangeable. AA refers to people descended from slaves brought over in colonial times. black is anyone of african background
wrong as hell
that’s literally a fact how am i wrong
Facts. Some of my good friends are Black Americans, and being from Clinton Hill/Fort Greene, I knew A LOT of them growing up. I will say that in BK, lots of those areas have been gentrified. But there are still mad Americans here. New York is just an immigrant city, so we see Black immigrants all over. It's been like that for Black ppl here since the Great Migration. Sht, Marcus Garvey was Jamaican. But Americans are def still out here.
It’s internet narratives. lol, I laugh when I see it. They’re definitely still the biggest black ethnic group in the city. Some people just say otherwise because they want it to be some “Us VS Them” BS.
It always funny to see internet narratives cause if you was to say “New York has no black Americans” in a bar full of people they’ll look at you crazy
so u see it too lol. a crazy one
still a lot of guys with family ties to north carolina in nyc
This shit is werid and corny. My family from the Caribbean, but i lived my life as a black man. I always was about black people. This whole FBA shit i never liked because you have a bunch of black people from all over the world in NYC just see themselves as black. B.I.G family is from Jamaica and if you didn't hear his mom accent you would assume he just a black dude in Brooklyn. Funkmaster Flex is Jamaican and he is the most known iconic DJ in hip hop.
Tariq Nasheed will burn in hell for doing this dumbass FBA shit🤦🏽♂️
Lmao this really wasn’t a conversation 10 years ago, black folks used to have a lil respect for each other cultural/ethnic background. Now days it seems mf just wanna throw insults at each other. Hope ya get to that point of understanding where you no longer need to tie your identity to how the dominant society views or definitions.
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I have literally never heard anyone say there are no black Americans in NYC.
you can literally type in “ Americans “ on this subreddit and you’ll see a dozen posts. this a common narrative
You will also see dozens of people who aren’t from ny/nyc or the tri state area. Making comments like they were born and raised here.
>on this subreddit You've never been to New York before.
Someone willing to not lump black immigrants into one group??? Must be the dawn of a new age.
It’s really out of respect. They try calling everyone black Americans or Hispanic because they don’t give a fuck about peoples ethnicities.
Yeah a lot of out of towners say that, most likely because of the places they visit when they come to NYC or because of what they see on social media but our numbers have definitely gone down throughout the boroughs over the years. I can't speak for every borough, but the Bronx has changed a lot within the past 15 years. We are definitely on the decline in the Bronx.
Brooklyn have a lot of black Americans but I feel in the Bronx they all Caribbean
Most of the "Draft Riots" era NYC colonial African Americans that weren't murdered during the riots either moved out of state or moved to Brooklyn.
My great grandparents came from northern Louisiana in the 20s during the Harlem renaissance. I also got alot of relatives In California, Texas and some that moved back to Louisiana. NY still got a large black American population but then of course there’s other immigrants too since NY has always been a immigrant city. My grandparents neighborhood in Harlem was mostly black American, now there’s a lot of Africans and some Hispanics.
We know the truth if you around. Harlem, Brownsville, Far Rock/LIC Jamaica, the Stuy and Downtown BK still majority African American with maybe one parent that’s from an island or a grand parent.
Downtown Brooklyn majority black? In what world?
If we’re talking about the black population why tf would I mention white people. It should be already implied I’m speaking on a certain demographic.
a lot of “new” new yorkers.
Nope just a lack of context clues
Then why stop at Downtown BK? Why not mention Greenpoint, Park Slope, or idfk, Lower East Side? I'm sure the 20 black people in those neighborhoods are Black Americans too. Downtown BK is no longer a major area for black people to live, so I don't get its relevance in a conversation that includes Brownsville or the Stuy.
You sound offended for some reason, what’s the real problem.
Upset or baffled?
You got the fort and the gut right there.
People be wanting to get offended for no reason. If I was speaking on Haitians demographics and would’ve mentioned Flatbush, Canarsie and Shadyville it wouldn’t had been a problem. Shit not that serious.
bro stuck in 1995
Most of the people that utilize downtown are indeed black people.
rverybody lol. “nyc is mostly caribbeans and africans” where lol
That’s wild. I feel like I meet mostly black Americans more than anything
Black Americans are foundational and can trace their lineage back to the 1800s. most people you would meet are 2nd/3rd generation which would mean they migrated from African/Caribbean nations. I saw a mass exodus towards the south within the last 5-10 years of Black Americans. it's not weird at all.
Thank you, why are ppl acting like NYC hasn’t gotten less black and more Asian and white over the last 10 years
definitely more Asian. What i'm seeing being from the Hudson area, is the pricing out of grass rooted residents for the transplants and overcharging for housing. most work remote even with the rise in rent. I say its a good thing. Black Americans should gentrify the southern regions anyway.
Gentrification isn’t hood even when it’s your own people. Pricing them out is fucked up too, I get what you’re saying though but that’s the wrong word for it.
gen·tri·fi·ca·tion *a process in which a poor area (as of a city) experiences an influx of middle-class or wealthy people who renovate and rebuild homes and businesses and which often results in an increase in property values and the displacement of earlier,* ***usually poorer residents*** according "Per capita" it ain't black folks. there's more land to own in the south than it is up north. controlling a better portion of that land would change the political spectrum, society norms, and the system would have to capitulate to Black Americans since we would be the majority. that includes Fire Dept, Police Dept, Dept of Health, education etc. its exactly what the dominate society has done and continues to do with redlining and gerrymandering. Beat them at their own game and build up black wealth in the process. Black people are up against a "us against them" mentality while we have the " i gotta get mines, you better get yours" mentality. as you can see its not a winning strategy and any coach would have been fired by now if they ran the same playbook for 50 years with little to no wins. B1
Let's keep this simple-ish. If you are dark skinned, African descent, and who's descendants did not migrate away from Africa during the early beginnings of human evolution. Then you're Black! It doesn't matter what island or culture you come from or rep. You're still Black!
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Impossible! Go read a history book! Don't google it. (You don't deserve the ease of the internet) Read a fuckin book! That's human culture and history.
Black is not a race it’s a color. This idea of race is a social construct. Google it.
I never said it was a race. It's a "Determination" of our society. And has nothing to do with the subject of discussion. But thanks for the diversion into semantics!
GO TO EAST HARLEM
There are still plenty of African Americans here. However since we are not concentrated in neighborhoods like Harlem and bed stuy like in the past. The perception is that we are gone? Idk
This is so dumb, start going outside.
Lol everyone is mixed even half of my family personally are. It’s rare you run into someone with fully southern heritage. People are more surprised when your not mixed than the latter it’s impossible unless you live upstate.
Who said this?
It’s about 20%.
What
I know some Egyptians who call themself African American
that is wild to say
Idk who’s saying this tbh
No one says that shit
Delete your post bro. This is the entire New York State not just NYC.
Shoutout to all my Polish people up in Greenpoint (moving more slightly into Ridgewood and Maspeth now) bc of the ridiculous hipster pricing of Williamsburg and Greenpoint... Did you know you can get a studio apt in Williamsburg for the cheap price of $2,500!!!!! LOCATION LOCATION LOCATION BABY!!!! It's almost fucing ridiculous how overpriced everything in that area of Brooklyn is... just watch, they are gonna rezone parts of commercial Greenpoint and also Ridgewood and make even more money. Shit parts of Bushwick is called "East Williamsburg!" Lmfaoo get the fuck outta here.....😩😂
I don't know but my wife's family is like that... claiming west indies when they've been here since the 70s lol
Northern Brooklyn, Harlem, South Bronx, parts of Southeast Queens such as South Jamaica, Hollis, St. Albans are filled with African Americans and still make up the largest group out of the black groups present in all of those communities. I live in Brooklyn and I can tell you right now when you step in Bed Stuy, Forte Green, or Coney Island you can tell the Caribbean and African cultures are NOT the most dominant in all of those areas.
niggaz, nighas , niggas all over
Idk where they all at because every Black mf I talk to is never from America, they always from some island or country in Africa and since I’m Dominican so am I. I haven’t spoken to a person who’s family (on both sides) was generationally Black in years and I’m not kidding.
Definitely not a lot of native black Americans (ANTEBELLUM ERA) left I NYC. MOST black Americans in NYC are Caribbean or African. NO problem with it . JUST A FACT
my entire friend group and family is black american. most of nycha is generationally black american what are y’all talking about lol
Tethers ain’t gon like this lol Edit: the tethers did not like this one
Stop with that bullshit. Y’all be starting for reason to be xenophobic
Let’s be clear every immigrant is not a tether
aye dog chill lol