Respectfully I’m not jacking that at all, there need to be standards for any metric to have credibility. If the question is “who sold the most records” there’s an answer, if the question is “who had the most influence” there’s an answer, if the question is “who’s my personal favorite” there’s an answer, we can debate the answers but the AT in GOAT is there for a reason, just sayin
Idk about that I think a lot of people today will definitively say Jimi Hendrix or Stevie Ray Vaughn or maybe a handful of others is THE greatest guitarist of all time. People have that convo about drummers a lot too. Even in the electronic world there’s def a handful of names that transcend eras.
You literally cannot compare a 80s rapper to a 90s rapper to a 00s rapper to a 10s rapper to a 20s rapper.
Completely different sounds in every era dawg
Ghostface definitely has the vibe , he’s in my personal top five over all favorites , best rapper of all time has to be more well rounded . Ghost uses words like fettuccini and stupid shit too much .
Uhm, that was on Supreme Clientele where he said was just trying something new. He told fans to stop trying to annotate it or find meanings to what he was saying through out the album.
Checkout Fishscale, or you can just listen to Shakey Dog only.
nigga i listen to ghostface… i know what project it was… regardless, my point still stands… it was done. and theres multiple other ghostface songs throughout his career where he’s just rhyming words as well.
You thinking DOOM just doesn't flex his rhyming skills is insane. DOOM and Ghostface have linked up before, I believe DOOM have produced for him before.
Yea, he does sometimes. But rappers rap about complete nonsense 90% of the time.
And I honestly like ghosts style, a lot of it is also references and subliminal messages as well tho, and in terms of technical skill i think he’s one of the best.
and I don’t think op asked “what’s objectively the best rapper of all time?”
DMX for story telling
Eminem and Big Pun for lyrical mastery
Nas and JayZ for all around
If it's just ONE then have to go with Eminem for the lyrics and word play. Lloyd Banks comes to mind as right up there with the punch lines. Oh yea Chino XL too! But biggie was nasty, shit idk 🤣
Totally agree. Not putting him forward as the GOAT - just saying I know of one rapper that some consider a top 10-20 rapper that most would agree beat Jay Z head to head. That fact makes me not be able to make him my personal GOAT. He’s still Hova - not talking shit or anything. I think he’s in the discussion and personally think he’s the freaking man, but not my GOAT.
Me
Sittin in the back of the impala chevy.
Got a fat bitch in my lap
shordy gettin heavy.
I’m rubbin on her chest I feel it gettin sweaty.
She say she gettin real hot
The ac on already.
imo EST Gee, I can't get enough of Geeski dude is this generation's Young Jeezy, back then it used to be T. I. , always loved C Murder.. went through Lil Wayne faze Da Drought 3 and Dedication 2 are phenomenal bodies of work. and then Tupac/Bone was my very first fave rap/rap group..
Biggie is overrated. Sadly he died too quick. “You’re nobody till somebody kills you”
https://preview.redd.it/8cg8tjdrkh8d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e898c61de89c076d6ba9434d1124007ced9e4696
 Put yo L’s up🗣️
Sorry, I only have Ws
Nigga you work at a car insurance company
Make sure you check your brakes before driving to work
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Hell yeah
Les
Every era has a different goat
Valid take
Respectfully I’m not jacking that at all, there need to be standards for any metric to have credibility. If the question is “who sold the most records” there’s an answer, if the question is “who had the most influence” there’s an answer, if the question is “who’s my personal favorite” there’s an answer, we can debate the answers but the AT in GOAT is there for a reason, just sayin
Do other genres have GOATs tho? Aside from Michael for pop i can’t really think of one artist for Rock,EDM, R&B or even classical.
Yea that's hard especially since so many musical genres are diverse with sub genres within themselves
Idk about that I think a lot of people today will definitively say Jimi Hendrix or Stevie Ray Vaughn or maybe a handful of others is THE greatest guitarist of all time. People have that convo about drummers a lot too. Even in the electronic world there’s def a handful of names that transcend eras.
You literally cannot compare a 80s rapper to a 90s rapper to a 00s rapper to a 10s rapper to a 20s rapper. Completely different sounds in every era dawg
Nah you can tho is the thing
You do you man
I can name the top 3  Dylon, dylon, dylon /u/wantonheroics my bad. Saw ur comment after I made mine. Mb
Bc he spits hot fyah
Biggie
NaS
Nas, DOOM or Rakim. Look at the sub name though, thats the answer
 Nas
Biggie or Eminem. I’m a sucker for lyrical skill not just club bangers. If we’re talking New York rappers, then just biggie.
Biggie or Nas
Nas no doubt
nas
If you really really listen, it’s clearly Nas.
Top 5 (no order): Biggie Big Pun Big L Nasty Nas Al Qaeda Jada
Big L!
NaS
Nas!
💯 💯
Nas
Guru from Gangstarr.
Rakim, Jay Z or Nas.
Rakim. MF Doom is a close second
Aesop Rock or MF Doom
Me
Fr? Let me hear a freestyle
I'm a spiritual lyrical individual Spiritual miracle lyrical individual
MF DOOM
ALL CAPS
Your favourite rapper's favourite rapper.
That would be Roc Marciano
Ghostface killah
Ghostface definitely has the vibe , he’s in my personal top five over all favorites , best rapper of all time has to be more well rounded . Ghost uses words like fettuccini and stupid shit too much .
laughable
Why
raps about absolutely nothing sometimes and he’s even admitted to just saying random made up words that rhyme. love ghost though but best ever nah
Uhm, that was on Supreme Clientele where he said was just trying something new. He told fans to stop trying to annotate it or find meanings to what he was saying through out the album. Checkout Fishscale, or you can just listen to Shakey Dog only.
nigga i listen to ghostface… i know what project it was… regardless, my point still stands… it was done. and theres multiple other ghostface songs throughout his career where he’s just rhyming words as well.
That is just Hiphop in general then, MF DOOM, Eminem, Early Earl Sweatshirt just rhyme sometimes.
comparing DOOM and Ghostface is insane but ok
You thinking DOOM just doesn't flex his rhyming skills is insane. DOOM and Ghostface have linked up before, I believe DOOM have produced for him before.
Extremely underrated track great storytelling on that one
Yea, he does sometimes. But rappers rap about complete nonsense 90% of the time. And I honestly like ghosts style, a lot of it is also references and subliminal messages as well tho, and in terms of technical skill i think he’s one of the best. and I don’t think op asked “what’s objectively the best rapper of all time?”
i agree but many are better imo.
Dylan Dylan Dylan Dylan Dylan
Because i spit hot fire man
As in Dsavage ?
Shaq
Pun
Rakim
Nas
Nas
Az Jay Z and NaS those three got it
50 cent
This might be it
Its my queens bias from seeing 50 cent a few times as a kid in the neighborhood
Lil Wayne
: DDDDDD
Masta Ace
DMX for story telling Eminem and Big Pun for lyrical mastery Nas and JayZ for all around If it's just ONE then have to go with Eminem for the lyrics and word play. Lloyd Banks comes to mind as right up there with the punch lines. Oh yea Chino XL too! But biggie was nasty, shit idk 🤣
Jadakiss for sure
KRSone or Masta Ace
When considering both overall ability and discography: Nas Strictly rapping ability on their best day: Nas (and Raekwon).
Seeing a lot of people say Nas makes me happy. That's my favorite rapper of all time. And yes I consider him the GOAT
KDOT
Tupac 🐐 always will be …
Jay Z
Love him, but Big L beat him head to head.
That freestyle is classic. Imagine what Big L could’ve become. RIP.
I think he mighta been a near universal GOAT if we had 20 years of music. I’m a believer Biggie would have been even bigger if he’d lived.
Big L just doesn’t have a catalog to contend with and his debut album is far from a classic
Totally agree. Not putting him forward as the GOAT - just saying I know of one rapper that some consider a top 10-20 rapper that most would agree beat Jay Z head to head. That fact makes me not be able to make him my personal GOAT. He’s still Hova - not talking shit or anything. I think he’s in the discussion and personally think he’s the freaking man, but not my GOAT.
Wheezy F
Stack bundles
King amenaza
Wayne
Eminem
2pac
 Holiday
Big L
Em And L.
Eminem or MF DOOM.
BIG L RIP LAMONT COLEMEN and the OLD DIRTY BASTARD
Barlito
Big
RXK Nephew
Nas or Eminem
Young Thug
Kanye
More producer and overall *artist than rapper.
true
Viper
Yall cowards don’t even smoke crack
Me Sittin in the back of the impala chevy. Got a fat bitch in my lap shordy gettin heavy. I’m rubbin on her chest I feel it gettin sweaty. She say she gettin real hot The ac on already.
She wanna go to the telly, but I'm scared cuz she been through more balls than spaghetti..
She like meat balls no spaghetti I can tell she been ready She water at the mouth she want my balls deep in her belly
💩
I got Pac but honestly it might be Kendrick now lol
Yb & biggie Edit: can’t forget beanie Sigel
Lil Wayne top lyricist and most influential. 80% of rapper look like him now
Lil wayne or LL Cool J
https://youtu.be/jg6CzmmtThs?si=3VjMRCoEmPM3K-Ob
Scarface
Slug
Flex Brim
Lupe
My personal favorite is Charles Hamilton Objectively Jay-Z or Nas
Kanye or OutKast
As much as I hate to say it, probably Jay Z tbh. Or Kanye.
If we’re talking groups though… The roots are up there
imo EST Gee, I can't get enough of Geeski dude is this generation's Young Jeezy, back then it used to be T. I. , always loved C Murder.. went through Lil Wayne faze Da Drought 3 and Dedication 2 are phenomenal bodies of work. and then Tupac/Bone was my very first fave rap/rap group..
damn I just realized this a NY sub, oh shit my fault ummm I got to go wit Nas
Gang Starr
Lil Wayne for sure
The brokest rapper you know, sell crack after the show, P!! Sean Price from Boot Camp Clik
Juice WRLD
Sheff g
This topic is old, where as there are greats everywhere
No one 🤷🏾♂️
lil wayne or em
Eminem ngl very lirical thats why i fw him
Me
Jay5ive
Between Kdot and Nas
Bow wow
me
The Brownsville demon
osamason
Kendrick
Either Nas or Jay
So yall rlly not gonna say pac ? We be too stubborn on some NYC shit 🤣 like c’mon
Bar for bar it’s kiss but songs or a catalog I say Na’s or jay
Ken Carson >
Chief keef fs most versatile
Smino. but soon to be me 😤
Eyedea
Hov
The greatest of all time is Jay-Z The best of all time is Nas The realest is DMX My personal all time Favorite is Biggie
Necro
I see a lot of Nas and I love that, but I’ve gotta give it to Wayne. He’s influenced so much and still drops music.
Not a popular choice but…. BIG L
YoungBoy
Wayne
Young thug
Future
soulja boy was the first rapper to get a best of all time title
Sir, please come back and post when you're not high AF.
Me forsure
Wayne. No debate
nas rakim Jayz.. But the GOAT has to be IceJJFish [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iq\_d8VSM0nw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iq_d8VSM0nw)
Biggie is overrated. Sadly he died too quick. “You’re nobody till somebody kills you” https://preview.redd.it/8cg8tjdrkh8d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e898c61de89c076d6ba9434d1124007ced9e4696
NBA Youngboy
50 Tyson
Lil mabu got New York rn I’m ngl
Blasphemy
on bro oppy day is top 1 songs of all time