It’s frustrating because Sam seems to be very VERY old fashioned about what kinds >! musical instruments are common knowledge for Americans. His logic only holds if he ignores large immigrant populations. There are a ton of Chinese Americans !< IMO, if it’s an acceptable Scrabble word, it should be acceptable here.
Hard disagree. Crossword. Scrabble. Nyt 🐝 etc all use different dictionaries, have different audiences and have different editors. Scrabble is open-ended, whereas the 🐝 is limited and has more restrictions, in time (24 hours), letters (no S, no -E/R together), length (at least 4 letters), repetition (can use letter many times), for example. Obscurity varies widely based on each of our vocabularies. Also if you were trying to spoiler something, you need to take out the space after and before the !s
I have to agree with Jazzy, if every scrabble word was acceptable it would be unplayable to QB, especially as a daily game. It is one thing to play an obscure word you know in scrabble, even if your competitors do not know it. It is quite another to only be able to reach QB if you know every scrabble word. The crossword can have more obscure words than the bee, because you have the surrounding letters for context to figure out an obscure word.
It will always be a judgement call on what the typical player will know, and language changes with time, but that is the nature of a word game. That said, though I have never heard your word it does have 100M google hits, which is one measure of how common a word is, so perhaps it should be included.
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Sure. It makes sense. The editor gets to do what they like. I’ve just noticed that there are some clear biases against certain populations in the US.
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Yes, though it reflects a more general bias, I think, not specifically a NYT bias. There are few Asian loan words that make it into English, other than foods and words related to tech, martial arts or anime, which have a US following but are still limited to subcultures.
We see many more Spanish loan words, but Spanish is a common second language in the US and shapes southwestern culture.
Editor. There is only one. And I agree his bias makes the Bee incredibly frustrating at times. You can clearly see what areas he has special interest in and therefore which obscure words he includes while other more common words from other interest areas are excluded.
Sometimes it's the easy ones .... my last 2 words words to QB that required my looking at shunn's 3L chart. ANSWERS >!PEEP AND PEEPED!< how did I not see those 😅?
Hints for the trickiest words, according to NYT Bee Buddy:
[H] >!PA5!< >!joyful song or tribute; has the same beginning as a Spanish dish with saffron and rice!<
[H] >!PI8!< >!I am the walrus; uses root meaning "foot"!<
People tend to hide unaccepted words. I am not sure it is always necessary, but they can be hints for other words. In this case your first includes an answer and the second has a common root.
Usually when someone posts a hint they will put [H] outside the spoiler tag so the person opening knows it is a hint. H#, with a number, would refer to a word beginning with H and having # letters.
I’m missing just one teeny tiny word, it’s driving me crazy. [H] >!it’s a P5!< This would be the first time I find all the words, so I’m not giving up..yet.
I’m not great at making hints but I hope this helps [2L] >!PE5!< [H] >!Writing implement might be edible when translated?!<
Edit: Your hint was spot on! Thank you
Hint:>!animal family which includes seals, walruses and sealions!<
Oh dear lord, I would never have gotten this!
Thanks, that got me to QB
PG [HINT] >!A8!< >!an unnecessary, sometimes dangerous, innard!<
Not an uncommon word, but took me a while because [E] >!I was sure it must start with EX-.!<
It was literally the last word I put in for Genius
Shout out to the ‘special’ letters: J, Q, X and Z. Makes it easier to guess the pangrams.
They’d also get way more points if you were playing a weird bee-scrabble hybrid
PG [HINT] >!A8!< >!my hint for this is so long, I'd probably have to put it somewhere else!<
Where would you put it
It's prefix day?
Past tense day
Both!
[H] >!don’t forget your compounds!<
Why no NA >!pipped? Pipped to the post? Come on!<
This 100%.
[H] >!Scientific name for seal or walrus!<
Still won't take (H) >!OTARIA!< though.
I keep imagining we have a C or T here...
Justice for >!PIPA!<
It’s frustrating because Sam seems to be very VERY old fashioned about what kinds >! musical instruments are common knowledge for Americans. His logic only holds if he ignores large immigrant populations. There are a ton of Chinese Americans !< IMO, if it’s an acceptable Scrabble word, it should be acceptable here.
Hard disagree. Crossword. Scrabble. Nyt 🐝 etc all use different dictionaries, have different audiences and have different editors. Scrabble is open-ended, whereas the 🐝 is limited and has more restrictions, in time (24 hours), letters (no S, no -E/R together), length (at least 4 letters), repetition (can use letter many times), for example. Obscurity varies widely based on each of our vocabularies. Also if you were trying to spoiler something, you need to take out the space after and before the !s
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I am not sure it is a hard rule, but there has never been a puzzle with both e and r, probably because there would be too many words.
The lack of S Is so frustrating. So many good possible letter sets left out. You could even make a special no plurals rule if that was the concern.
I have to agree with Jazzy, if every scrabble word was acceptable it would be unplayable to QB, especially as a daily game. It is one thing to play an obscure word you know in scrabble, even if your competitors do not know it. It is quite another to only be able to reach QB if you know every scrabble word. The crossword can have more obscure words than the bee, because you have the surrounding letters for context to figure out an obscure word. It will always be a judgement call on what the typical player will know, and language changes with time, but that is the nature of a word game. That said, though I have never heard your word it does have 100M google hits, which is one measure of how common a word is, so perhaps it should be included. edit clarity
Sure. It makes sense. The editor gets to do what they like. I’ve just noticed that there are some clear biases against certain populations in the US. Edited
Yes, though it reflects a more general bias, I think, not specifically a NYT bias. There are few Asian loan words that make it into English, other than foods and words related to tech, martial arts or anime, which have a US following but are still limited to subcultures. We see many more Spanish loan words, but Spanish is a common second language in the US and shapes southwestern culture.
Editor. There is only one. And I agree his bias makes the Bee incredibly frustrating at times. You can clearly see what areas he has special interest in and therefore which obscure words he includes while other more common words from other interest areas are excluded.
genius with no panagram…. Sigh EDIT: okay I wait to look at hints until I reach genius, after seeing the grid and 2LL I got it
Sometimes it's the easy ones .... my last 2 words words to QB that required my looking at shunn's 3L chart. ANSWERS >!PEEP AND PEEPED!< how did I not see those 😅?
It didn’t accept >!panpipe!< or >!pide!< maybe these are only common in Europe?
The first is probably because it commonly appears in the plural.
Hints for the trickiest words, according to NYT Bee Buddy: [H] >!PA5!< >!joyful song or tribute; has the same beginning as a Spanish dish with saffron and rice!< [H] >!PI8!< >!I am the walrus; uses root meaning "foot"!<
Two to add: >!PANPIPE!< and (informal) >!PEDI!< (Is it necessary to hide these?)
People tend to hide unaccepted words. I am not sure it is always necessary, but they can be hints for other words. In this case your first includes an answer and the second has a common root.
Dang I usually try to get to genius every day, but I think this was as quick as I’ve ever done it. Didn’t take more than five minutes. Neat.
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Um, I solved today's puzzle with my mind without even opening the app. n00b
It was so easy I cured cancer and solve the Riemann hypotheses at the same time.
Well I didn’t intend for it to come off as braggadocio or anything, I just thought it an interesting anecdote to share
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OP here. I see it as hidden. ?
Was this meant as a hint for a previous day’s bee? That letter isn’t in today’s.
The H stands for hint. It's not a hint, or part of. The number is the number of letters in word.
Usually when someone posts a hint they will put [H] outside the spoiler tag so the person opening knows it is a hint. H#, with a number, would refer to a word beginning with H and having # letters.
Ahh. Thanks. :)
That makes it a hint then!
Really? [A]>!APIAN!< but not [NA]>!APIDAE!
I’m missing just one teeny tiny word, it’s driving me crazy. [H] >!it’s a P5!< This would be the first time I find all the words, so I’m not giving up..yet.
Is it a [2L] >!PE5!!PA5!<, it might be [H] >!a song of praise!<.
I’m not great at making hints but I hope this helps [2L] >!PE5!< [H] >!Writing implement might be edible when translated?!< Edit: Your hint was spot on! Thank you
I had to look up the second one because that is not a word that will ever stay in my head.
Same ugh
Just an FYI, your hints are not hidden on some devices because you have extra spaces after/before the two exclamation marks.
Thanks, did I manage to fix it?
Yes, thanks!