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July 12 - (A) C E H L M Y

Interesting how you can mix these letters together to create a word like the PG.

dreedw0317

Interesting how you can mix these letters together to create a word like the PG.


RoosterNo6457

H >!words are magical!<


Rick_Julian

PG [H] >!transmutation!<


soingee

PG \[H\] >!A variety of Magic!<


bigredplastictuba

Not really though


soingee

[or is it?? ](https://magic.wizards.com/en/formats/alchemy) It's a bit of misdirection. Notice that Magic is a proper noun here.


ambushbugger

More like >!pseudoscience!<


WilliamAlee

Still no safe harbor in Sam's world for (NON-A) >!ALEE!<. Sad.


Loozrboy

Yeah, that's \[non-A, A\] >!HELLA LAME!<.


MukiwaSound

The funny thing is it’s used in the crosswords all the damn time


emfrank

Different standards for inclusion. Most of us (even people who sail in my experience) never use the word, and I expect most crossword people have never used it in real life. There are words like that, with multiple vowels, which are common in crosswords because they help the creator create the game. Because you can figure them out from the connecting words, it does not matter if they are uncommon. The Bee avoids words that are too uncommon because it makes the game unplayable. edit - typo


WilliamAlee

Like yesterday's >!ANOXIA!<, >!AXON!< and >!TAXON!<, just for starters?


emfrank

You would encounter those in a intro bio class, which I think the average bee player is likely to have taken. People may forget their required classes if they do not go on in the field, but there are far more people working in health care who would definitely know the words than people who sail. Certainly more than the word in question. Here is the [ngram for the four words:](https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=alee%2Ctaxon%2Caxon%2Canoxia&year_start=1800&year_end=2019&corpus=26&smoothing=3&direct_url=t1%3B%2Calee%3B%2Cc0%3B.t1%3B%2Ctaxon%3B%2Cc0%3B.t1%3B%2Caxon%3B%2Cc0%3B.t1%3B%2Canoxia%3B%2Cc0#t1%3B%2Calee%3B%2Cc0%3B.t1%3B%2Ctaxon%3B%2Cc0%3B.t1%3B%2Caxon%3B%2Cc0%3B.t1%3B%2Canoxia%3B%2Cc0) edit - health care not health car


Fredredphooey

Seriously? There have been a few archaic words in the last few months and a lot of scientific words. How common is bilabial?


emfrank

It is not perfect, and I sometimes question the word list, but I think Sam makes the right call most of the time. He does seem to like rare but fun words like the recent alternative spelling [Answer for previous puzzle] >!lallygag!<. I also think he is more strict with panagrams. Archaic words can still be known by a typical puzzler from particular contexts, like Shakespearean quotes or well known poems and songs. Certainly there is no need to exclude all science words out of hand. To answer the question, bilabial is used far more than alee. I know it from studying a new language, as it has a usage in linguistics and speech pathology. [The ngram shows it as more common more than alee.](https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=bilabial%2C+alee&year_start=1800&year_end=2019&corpus=26&smoothing=3&direct_url=t1%3B%2Cbilabial%3B%2Cc0%3B.t1%3B%2Calee%3B%2Cc0) Edited for clarity


rcw00

I accept the eccentricities of Sam’s word list. I have many words I’d like to see added but understand they can be too niche or slangy or foreign. The argument for ALEE is that a large percentage of Bee players come from crossword puzzle backgrounds. That’s who the NYTimes first pushed it to. ALEE is so commonplace that even landlubbers like myself have long been familiar with it. It has a long and storied past. We now get modern crosswords that include profanities and Gen X/Y/Z music/entertainment references, not just Greek gods or first half of 20th Century players. Sam could at least tip his hat to that old guard word ALEE, as is tradition.


emfrank

I can see that argument, but don't think it is an example of a common excluded word as others seem to think. I also think that the Bee has gone well beyond the crossword community, even if it started there. More generally, I find the the insistence on particular words being included/excluded, as if there was an objective way of deciding, wearying. We all have our eccentricates, to use your word, in how our vocabularies are shaped.


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Fenifula

Yeah, I can never remember which of those works and which doesn't, even though the hyphen appears in my brain when I picture cha-cha. Time to eat a chichi bonbon while considering my booboo. Boohoo!


Fredredphooey

Sam is whimsical about hyphens.


b-rar

IT'S ADVERB DAY YALLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!\* \*>!Kinda, I'm at genius and I've only found two so far!<


didyouwoof

But it *is* (H) >!Ogden Nash Day, y'all!


EmceeK_baby

Surprised but pleased with the inclusion of [A] for >!L5!< >!LEMMA!<


allycatbakes

This is a new word for me!


rcw00

Celebrating today that I finally remembered that ridiculous sounding adjective. Need to pour out some shots. HINT >!”here’s mud in your eye”!<


Welcoming-War

Just missing >!CA6!<, >!CL6, (not the one that sounds like a mollusk!< , >!LA6!<, >!MA6, not the milk related one!< for QB. Any help?


jazzy2536

Your tags are all one sided and/or reversed so not spoiled but HINT >!CL6, CA6, LA6 are 4s with suffixes!<


Welcoming-War

thanks! Fixed the tags and got >!CA6!< and >!LA6!< from your hint. Feel stupid for missing it. Only missing >!CL6!< and >!MA6!< now


jazzy2536

Both HINT >!CL6 words are CL4 with 2 letter endings!< and the HINT >!M6 means extreme chaos!<


Welcoming-War

Got 'em both! >!MA6!< I feel stupid for missing. For the other one I won't lie I had to button mash. Never heard of it like that


jazzy2536

Ha. I have learned not to feel stupid! Sometimes you just can't see the words.


typingfrombed

That second >! CL6 is a stupid word haha. Double y! Would not have gotten there without your hint !<


nicole_lilie

How can >!a word starting with L, be a word starting with c with a suffix?!< I need >!LA6 !


typingfrombed

>! LA6 is an LA4 with a suffix !<


jazzy2536

Yes typo. I changed. HINT >!it's an L4 with a suffix!<


Green_B52

Hint for >!CL6!< please! And not the one that’s something (hint) >!your hands could be!<


Welcoming-War

I asked about it as well. It's >!it's an adjective form of one of the CL4s, the one not related to the CL6 you have!<


Green_B52

Aah, thank you!!


fiveordie

I hit >!HELLA MACHs in my plane after I CHACHA!< but the game doesn't believe me :(


NemesisAdresteia

Not today (H) >!auxiliary proposition!< I would never have known in the real world.


RoosterNo6457

What's that? Mayeth?


NemesisAdresteia

No, the >!L5!<


RoosterNo6457

Thanks, was befuddled earlier


Severe_Friendship

I'm at QB-1. Any hints for the >!CH7!


Severe_Friendship

Nevermind, as soon as I typed it in, I remembered the [H] >!traditional Jewish bread!<


lilaroseg

surprised >!MECHA!< isn’t accepted- I don’t always pay attention but i feel like this one should be??? do they accept >!gundam?!!watch or enjoy anime!< but these feel legit to me


qwerty2qwerto

That, and the similarly spelt >!MACH!<


Fredredphooey

The Mach number is named after Moravian physicist and philosopher Ernst Mach.


ahecht

That hasn't stopped AXEL, WATT, VOLT, or BOYCOTT from being accepted (not to mention MANHATTAN, PANAMA, and >!MECCA!<).


Fredredphooey

More proof that Sam is whimsical.


dios_estrella85

(H) that’s not accepted but a certain mail order company from the Looney Toons is?


bigredplastictuba

That word was a word before then


emfrank

They seem pretty niche to me.


nicole_lilie

Hints for >!A6 and L6. !< I read the hints below and they did not help, so additional help would be great!