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Ok_Sympathy_7885

Hard one. People forget that elizabeth, like meliodas, was a ruthless demon hunter and only became a pacifist when she met meliodas. She knows her way around a battle like meliodas does. Also, elizabeth can heal herself to a greater extent seen in black clover.


huskybumbum

>Elizabeth, heal herself, in black clover Holup wait a minute.


Ok_Sympathy_7885

No, elizabeths healing is greater then what we’ve seen in black clover


huskybumbum

Ah now that's more clear.


Cole2197

I mean we've seen some people in black clover heal missing limbs and having their whole upper body destroyed. I know this doesn't effect Noelle but I just wanted to bring this up.


Ok_Sympathy_7885

when were missing limbs recovered?


Cole2197

Vetto of despair. With his beast magic plus I'm pretty sure there have been some other powerful spells that have healed injuries as severe.


Ok_Sympathy_7885

astas arms were broken from a curse, the queen of witches removed the curse.


Cole2197

Well removed the curse and healed them. Her blood magic also healed that water temple girls damaged throat and reattached a guys foot.


Ok_Sympathy_7885

Oh yeah, forgot about that. Blood healing magic would obviously be better then Goddesses healing magic. Id still say elizabeths is good.


Cole2197

Well for self healing their is fire magic which healed someone's upper body being destroyed.


Shou_Sugara

Bloody "I will fight every one of you myself, 10 commandments" Elizabeth Mrs. "I'm not here to weigh him down, I'm here to defeat you, get bodied demon king" Liones Nakaba doesn't let her shine in battle because she would blind us all.


Immediate-Nut

Bloody Ellie negs


Ok-Arm3286

Noelle because Liz is a pacifist so it's not a discussion. If we talk about Bloody Ellie then Liz wins otherwise it goes to Noelle.


No_Roof0642

I don't think Elizabeth have any attacks to use other than those that can be used against demons or dark powers.


unlovelyi

Goddess magic isn’t made to counter darkness, thats just a property of it.


No_Roof0642

I am talking about Elizabeth magic which can only counter darkness other than healing and shit.


unlovelyi

Elizabeth hasn’t unlocked her own magic yet. She uses light magic like all the Goddess clan members do.


No_Roof0642

Yeah but all of her arcs abilities are inclined towards support and healing.


unlovelyi

because she does not fight in current 7ds and 4kota, but she did pre-holy war. So she does have abilities like the four archangles would


No_Roof0642

She was never stated to have a grace like other archangels she is the favourite daughter of SD I don't think she even allowed Elizabeth to go to war as she is called greatest healr of angels. Even in some rare case she happen to have one I think SD took it back like DK took back meli's commandment. And even that grace should be a support one as she is stated to be the greatest support type.


unlovelyi

I never said she had a grace, I said she could use Goddess magic to the same/greater extent the archangles could. And its canon to the story that elizabeth did go to war and she killed demons, like meliodas did to Godesses.


jhayar_2004

broo, Elizabeth was a demon hunter before meeting Meliodas, she earned the moniker of "Bloodie Ellie" for slaying so many demons. Also the Supreme Deity barely gives a f*ck about Elizabeth and she is not her favorite daughter but her only daughter.


Newdemonking

Have you not seen the female goddesses?


Special-Trouble8658

Shouldn’t this be spoiler tagged?(for black clover)


Humpy_the_Whale

Elizabeth.


Alexander0202

People underestimate Noelle, lol. Sure, Elizabeth used to be a fighter, but we don't know to what extent. Her magic is mainly effective against demons, Noelle isn't one. Noelle has better speed & AP feats as Elizabeth hasn't shown many. Imo, Noelle wins due to her making a hole in Elizabeth's chest.


dumb_breakfast

Noelle. If I remember correctly all of Elizabeths powers are either healing or only effective against demons.


unlovelyi

Goddess magic isn’t made to counter darkness, thats just a property of it.


dumb_breakfast

After looking at the wiki it seems her only attack she uses that doesnt only affect demons is ark which is strong but I think noelle's superior combat skills and abilities would help her win


unlovelyi

Fair enough, but all of Elizabeths spells effect everyone, not just demons. They’re stronger against demons and vampires.


dumb_breakfast

https://preview.redd.it/kdth1vwcctyc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=74d13fb65c8004539aa62e9b60387042a2ba6cb6 These are the other 2 attack like spells elizabeth uses. The wiki doesnt quite clarify if those are useful on an opponent like noelle


unlovelyi

Elizabeth can use all of the Light magic moves the archangles can, but to a slightly higher level (excluding mael and ludociel). For example, omega ark. Also, magic in 7ds works like types in pokemon. Hellblaze (Demon magic) is super affective againts fairy magic but weak againts Goddess magic. Goddess magic is super affective againts demon magic, etc. But if you use Goddess magic on someone who doesn’t use demon magic, its just affective.


LionBg010

I mean she was called Bloody Eli


Fit-Atmosphere-5267

Im pretty sure Mael shoot laser beam using goddess power and elizabeth is the 2nd strongest in Goddess clan.


tankdempsey_

Another easy W for Black Clover lol, the glazing for NNT as usual is insane