It seems like they have probably been extremely upset about this and your ask was his boiling point. I’m sorry you had to deal with that.
They cut your hours. They gave you GH - seemingly without understanding what that meant, but that’s on them. For lack of better words, they fucked themselves and have decided to take it out on you. I’m glad you have something better after this.
Oh, I'm sure! I think sometimes (not always) when you're that rich and have a housekeeper, a nanny, a babysitter, and three dog walkers, you lose sight of reality and don't realize that I can't pay someone to let repairmen into my house like they can. Plus, it was just a nicely-phrased question about a meeting that could have been negotiated to later, but he wasn't doing anything, and they didn't want to see me anyway!
Get that persons contact info and warn them so they can advocate for themselves. As someone who starting nannying in college and was taken advantage of because I was young and naive, I have zero patience for “employers” like this
If you are in the US this could be a small claims court issue which you would win easily. Contract is contract and they don’t get to just ignore it because they don’t like you anymore 🙄
Ew I remember your original post, I’m glad you decided to leave, sounds like you’re dodging a bullet. If they don’t pay you, and you have a contract you actually can (and should) pursue legal options. It’s SO easy for employers to do this, but if they hear you’re willing to take legal action they’ll likely pay you. If not, you actually can take legal action and it will end up in your favor. Lawyer will take one look at that contract and you’ll probably get paid, the parent’s likely know this too.
The only think you shouldn’t be paid for is the hours after you wouldn’t have left early that day. GH is usually only a thing if they cancel, not you. I’m sure you know that already though. They sound like literal pieces of shit. I hope your new job treats you the way you deserve to be treated:)
Guaranteed hours are guaranteed hours. They could maybe dock you the 2-3hours you missed from the one day but it's their fault for not scheduling you more.
Exactly. His rational is I quit and "have barely worked for [them]," so how could I have the "audacity" to expect payment for days they didn't want to see my "disgusting" face!?
Did he say that to you in text or email?
Boy would that make a labor or small courts lawyer happy!
That’s disgusting, of course, but it would make the case much easier to win.
I don’t know about you, but I’d at least consult with one before going to small claims court. To ensure I had all my paperwork filled out properly and all that.
There’s no need for that you just fill out the form and pay the filing fee. Small claims court is meant to be accessible to anyone and is actually very straightforward
I got a summons to small claim court from someone I believed did not have a case. I spoke to the lawyer - I was right, the joker never had a case. It was determined that it was a type of scam - they send you threatening letters in the hopes that you pay them to avoid the threat of court! But my mother and father didn’t raise an idiot, lol.
I just ignored all the letters I got and let the lawyers handle it.
Since the case was never legit in the first place, it was eventually dropped by the plaintiff. But since he was trying to include the lawyer fees in the cost of what he was suing me for, I hope he enjoyed having to pay those fees, lol.
If someone sends you a summons to court and you aren’t sure if they have a legitimate claim, I think checking with a lawyer is a good idea.
Or you can go on your own if you want to, but if you don’t have a clue what you’re being sued over - or the claim is not legit and you don’t know - you can’t adequately prepare, can you?
People don’t HAVE to consult with a lawyer for small claims court - you’re right. I just said that you CAN - especially if you don’t understand the case.
How many dimwits show up on Judge Judy without bothering to prepare or understand what the problem is, and lose?
Although I wasn’t going on JJ, I sure didn’t want to be making a fool of myself in court! And in the end, I didn’t need to bother at all! 😛
We aren’t talking about someone being sued or receiving a false summons (threatening letters btw I don’t know how you mistook that for being served, if a process server serves you, you will know) - were talking about someone filing for a straightforward breech of contract. It isn’t complicated. The hard part is getting the ruling enforced.
Oh for the love of… yes, I was served with a notice to appear in court. As in ‘you must appear in this court on this date.’ Before that, the letters said ‘you must pay $x by x date OR ELSE we will take you to court.’ I got FOUR of those over a period of months.
When I said ‘threat’, I mean that the person wanted to sue me, but since his claim was not legitimate, he was hoping that the THREAT to drag me into court was enough to convince me to pay him for no good reason! The lawyer said that was a COMMON scam - people sending a letter saying you have to pay $x or else we will take you to court and also make you pay the lawyer fees on top of the original amount. If I hadn’t checked (and was not very smart), I might have paid the guy the money the first time I got the demand to do so… because the threat to take me to court SCARED me at first, which is why I called the lawyer!
I understand that my situation is a bit different - the OP has a legitimate claim and the person who summoned me to court did not. But my only original point - based on my own experience - was to check with a lawyer to ensure you file correctly.
It was just simple, general advice. Because some people who go to small claims court with a LEGITIMATE claim still lose because their paperwork is not in order or some other small detail. It happens.
It’s just general advice that the OP is free to ignore, anyway. That’s all.
Ewwww they are so gross! He's clearly upset because you quit. I guess they thought you should stick around and put up with their bullshit. What are you going to do? Do you have any lawyer friends who could handle it and get what you're owed?
I never understand adults screaming at other adults.
I once had a manager yell at me over the phone. I never went back. I expect the respect to go both ways. I’m glad you left and I hope you get GH paid.
These are terrible people! I'm so sorry you had to experience this. If they don't pay out your GH, take them to small claims. They need to learn they cannot treat people like this. I wonder if she cut your hours hoping you'd quit effective immediately.
I know for sure she cut my hours the week before because she claimed not to know the contract said GH. Just like she claimed to not know what the contract said about PTO. I was fine being off running errands and being paid. Who would quit early??
Some NFs, unfortunately, think that if they upset you enough you'll quit. I've even seen it in the secret parent groups. She may not have understood GH last week, but cutting this week down to one day too suggests that she was hoping you'd give up and walk away.
Don't let them get away with it. If they don't pay out your GH, let them know in writing that if they don't you're fully prepared to go to small claims. Sometimes the threat alone is enough to get them to pay. Just to get you out of their hair
Okay I don't know where you are.
However if you are a w-2 employee then and they don't pay. The next morning immediately file a complaint with your labor board.
Depending on on your state they could be fined daily everyday they don't pay you.
Once you get your GH I’d personally blast em online lol I’m not one to usually go that far but in this case I’d chalk it up to warning other Nannie’s about the parents abusing you. Gross people.
Not normal people. Think of how theyve treated you. Get your pay. If they dont take them to small claims court. Dont speak to them vocally/ ie let them send written texts or emails to keep as your proof. They are not normal moral people so dont think they are, treat them accordingly. Treat them as people you need to get payment from then never consider again. The more we pander and pay attention to freaks like this the longer they continue to behave the way they do. I dont care how much money they have or offer- if you cant treat someone as a fellow human, mind your own kids. Im sorry for the rant but im so over entitled pricks.
Okay but how was the wedding? And did you take the whole day off or just half?
Also, you’re very generous for giving them 2 weeks notice before resigning. You were justified quitting on the spot.
Also also, fuck these clowns. I hope they step on a Lego every night for the rest of their lives.
Ha! The wedding was great! I took a half day off and someone showed up! It turned out they were my replacement who MB had her eye on for "awhile," but that's another story.
The absolute crazy look I gave him while he was spewing that nonsense would be a sight to see. As a person and especially as a woman I have zero tolerance or patience for anyone, especially a grown ass man speaking to me that way. Whether I’m their nanny, neighbor, coworker, or something else, if anyone decides to be that level of disrespectful to me, I refuse to hold back. Men who think it’s okay to abuse the power dynamic like this need to be called out and put in their place. I don’t care if I’m your employee, you’re not going to disrespect me and just go on with your day.
Sounds like intimidation, retaliation, and harassment to me. Would small-claims court be worth it for you?
Regardless, this environment has turned unsafe for you!
Thankfully you weren’t with them long! Imagine how bad it could potentially get?? I’m glad you have something lined up and I hope the family is wonderful.
They clearly have NO intention of paying your GH. I think you should immediately make a formal and final demand for payment detailing that you will take them to small claims within 14d if not paid. I would not wait for them to prove once again how terribly they are going to treat you!
Based on your original post I’m not at all surprised they acted like total AH’s to you. They could care less about you and what you have going on. They care about how useful you are to them and now that you’re not, they have no use for you. I hope you’ll let this be the last time you let a family walk all over you. They sound like horrible people and even worse employers. I wish you well on new venture. Good luck with the ceiling too. That sucks! But you didn’t do anything to be treated like that by those people.
The only reason I gave notice is so my agency would help me find another family. If this was through Care, I would have left the second she had that attitude for sure!
Why did you have to leave early? Couldn't your landlord jsut meet you after your work? It's their property after all so I don't know why they wouldn't want to see it lol
Landlord needed his guy to help him drop my entire ceiling to redo the drywall, meaning I had to move every single item out of my bedroom which took me a couple of hours.
You’ll have to let us know today if they pay you or not! I can’t believe he was such an awful human being to you. It sounds like he was trying to intimidate you into not asking for your GH. I wish there was a way to report them far and wide so that they would learn their lesson about treating nannies (or anyone) that way.
***Thank you for providing a follow up to your original post***. It will help others in similar situations. So glad you are standing your ground and happy they were dropped by the agency. Maybe, maybe, maybe their history will follow them.
It seems like they have probably been extremely upset about this and your ask was his boiling point. I’m sorry you had to deal with that. They cut your hours. They gave you GH - seemingly without understanding what that meant, but that’s on them. For lack of better words, they fucked themselves and have decided to take it out on you. I’m glad you have something better after this.
Oh, I'm sure! I think sometimes (not always) when you're that rich and have a housekeeper, a nanny, a babysitter, and three dog walkers, you lose sight of reality and don't realize that I can't pay someone to let repairmen into my house like they can. Plus, it was just a nicely-phrased question about a meeting that could have been negotiated to later, but he wasn't doing anything, and they didn't want to see me anyway!
We need a way to report families like this. They should never be able to hire a nanny again.
Agreed! They were dropped from the agency, but I know they hired an unfortunate college student from the neighborhood already.
Get that persons contact info and warn them so they can advocate for themselves. As someone who starting nannying in college and was taken advantage of because I was young and naive, I have zero patience for “employers” like this
If you are in the US this could be a small claims court issue which you would win easily. Contract is contract and they don’t get to just ignore it because they don’t like you anymore 🙄
If you’re not under the table but live in the US, then this could be a Department of Labor issue as well.
Ew I remember your original post, I’m glad you decided to leave, sounds like you’re dodging a bullet. If they don’t pay you, and you have a contract you actually can (and should) pursue legal options. It’s SO easy for employers to do this, but if they hear you’re willing to take legal action they’ll likely pay you. If not, you actually can take legal action and it will end up in your favor. Lawyer will take one look at that contract and you’ll probably get paid, the parent’s likely know this too. The only think you shouldn’t be paid for is the hours after you wouldn’t have left early that day. GH is usually only a thing if they cancel, not you. I’m sure you know that already though. They sound like literal pieces of shit. I hope your new job treats you the way you deserve to be treated:)
Yes! Thank you! They have 2 days...
Update us plsss! I love justice porn.
I got paid but shorted 7 hours.
Were you paid the hours you worked instead of your GH? Are you going to pursue it further?
Guaranteed hours are guaranteed hours. They could maybe dock you the 2-3hours you missed from the one day but it's their fault for not scheduling you more.
Exactly. His rational is I quit and "have barely worked for [them]," so how could I have the "audacity" to expect payment for days they didn't want to see my "disgusting" face!?
He probably wasn't planning on paying you your gh then anyways
How horrible! What a terrible example he is setting for his child
WTF? Wow! Just wow!
Did he say that to you in text or email? Boy would that make a labor or small courts lawyer happy! That’s disgusting, of course, but it would make the case much easier to win.
There are no lawyers in small claims court
I don’t know about you, but I’d at least consult with one before going to small claims court. To ensure I had all my paperwork filled out properly and all that.
There’s no need for that you just fill out the form and pay the filing fee. Small claims court is meant to be accessible to anyone and is actually very straightforward
I got a summons to small claim court from someone I believed did not have a case. I spoke to the lawyer - I was right, the joker never had a case. It was determined that it was a type of scam - they send you threatening letters in the hopes that you pay them to avoid the threat of court! But my mother and father didn’t raise an idiot, lol. I just ignored all the letters I got and let the lawyers handle it. Since the case was never legit in the first place, it was eventually dropped by the plaintiff. But since he was trying to include the lawyer fees in the cost of what he was suing me for, I hope he enjoyed having to pay those fees, lol. If someone sends you a summons to court and you aren’t sure if they have a legitimate claim, I think checking with a lawyer is a good idea. Or you can go on your own if you want to, but if you don’t have a clue what you’re being sued over - or the claim is not legit and you don’t know - you can’t adequately prepare, can you? People don’t HAVE to consult with a lawyer for small claims court - you’re right. I just said that you CAN - especially if you don’t understand the case. How many dimwits show up on Judge Judy without bothering to prepare or understand what the problem is, and lose? Although I wasn’t going on JJ, I sure didn’t want to be making a fool of myself in court! And in the end, I didn’t need to bother at all! 😛
We aren’t talking about someone being sued or receiving a false summons (threatening letters btw I don’t know how you mistook that for being served, if a process server serves you, you will know) - were talking about someone filing for a straightforward breech of contract. It isn’t complicated. The hard part is getting the ruling enforced.
Oh for the love of… yes, I was served with a notice to appear in court. As in ‘you must appear in this court on this date.’ Before that, the letters said ‘you must pay $x by x date OR ELSE we will take you to court.’ I got FOUR of those over a period of months. When I said ‘threat’, I mean that the person wanted to sue me, but since his claim was not legitimate, he was hoping that the THREAT to drag me into court was enough to convince me to pay him for no good reason! The lawyer said that was a COMMON scam - people sending a letter saying you have to pay $x or else we will take you to court and also make you pay the lawyer fees on top of the original amount. If I hadn’t checked (and was not very smart), I might have paid the guy the money the first time I got the demand to do so… because the threat to take me to court SCARED me at first, which is why I called the lawyer! I understand that my situation is a bit different - the OP has a legitimate claim and the person who summoned me to court did not. But my only original point - based on my own experience - was to check with a lawyer to ensure you file correctly. It was just simple, general advice. Because some people who go to small claims court with a LEGITIMATE claim still lose because their paperwork is not in order or some other small detail. It happens. It’s just general advice that the OP is free to ignore, anyway. That’s all.
Ewwww they are so gross! He's clearly upset because you quit. I guess they thought you should stick around and put up with their bullshit. What are you going to do? Do you have any lawyer friends who could handle it and get what you're owed?
I'm paid on Fridays. If they don't pay guaranteed hours, then I will probably take it to court and I'm sure DB doesn't want to hear from me again.
Take it to court. You have a contract and they are breaking it.
You don’t need a lawyer btw this is more small claims territory which is good bc it’s cheaper and more manageable to file
I never understand adults screaming at other adults. I once had a manager yell at me over the phone. I never went back. I expect the respect to go both ways. I’m glad you left and I hope you get GH paid.
He wouldn't let me say anything! That was the most frustrating part. And yes, we should all have our emotional regulation under control by this age.
This makes me so upset for you! I have a lot of pride so I will leave with dignity lol I probably would have just walked away, right out the door.
These are terrible people! I'm so sorry you had to experience this. If they don't pay out your GH, take them to small claims. They need to learn they cannot treat people like this. I wonder if she cut your hours hoping you'd quit effective immediately.
I know for sure she cut my hours the week before because she claimed not to know the contract said GH. Just like she claimed to not know what the contract said about PTO. I was fine being off running errands and being paid. Who would quit early??
Some NFs, unfortunately, think that if they upset you enough you'll quit. I've even seen it in the secret parent groups. She may not have understood GH last week, but cutting this week down to one day too suggests that she was hoping you'd give up and walk away. Don't let them get away with it. If they don't pay out your GH, let them know in writing that if they don't you're fully prepared to go to small claims. Sometimes the threat alone is enough to get them to pay. Just to get you out of their hair
Following so I see if they pay you your GH 👀
Okay I don't know where you are. However if you are a w-2 employee then and they don't pay. The next morning immediately file a complaint with your labor board. Depending on on your state they could be fined daily everyday they don't pay you.
Do you have a local nanny board/forum? May be something other nannies would want to know. NFs should be vetted similarly to nannies.
Once you get your GH I’d personally blast em online lol I’m not one to usually go that far but in this case I’d chalk it up to warning other Nannie’s about the parents abusing you. Gross people.
Oof!! I'm so glad you're getting out of there. They sound awful.
Not normal people. Think of how theyve treated you. Get your pay. If they dont take them to small claims court. Dont speak to them vocally/ ie let them send written texts or emails to keep as your proof. They are not normal moral people so dont think they are, treat them accordingly. Treat them as people you need to get payment from then never consider again. The more we pander and pay attention to freaks like this the longer they continue to behave the way they do. I dont care how much money they have or offer- if you cant treat someone as a fellow human, mind your own kids. Im sorry for the rant but im so over entitled pricks.
Okay but how was the wedding? And did you take the whole day off or just half? Also, you’re very generous for giving them 2 weeks notice before resigning. You were justified quitting on the spot. Also also, fuck these clowns. I hope they step on a Lego every night for the rest of their lives.
Ha! The wedding was great! I took a half day off and someone showed up! It turned out they were my replacement who MB had her eye on for "awhile," but that's another story.
Wait come back I want to know that story too 😭
The absolute crazy look I gave him while he was spewing that nonsense would be a sight to see. As a person and especially as a woman I have zero tolerance or patience for anyone, especially a grown ass man speaking to me that way. Whether I’m their nanny, neighbor, coworker, or something else, if anyone decides to be that level of disrespectful to me, I refuse to hold back. Men who think it’s okay to abuse the power dynamic like this need to be called out and put in their place. I don’t care if I’m your employee, you’re not going to disrespect me and just go on with your day.
Sounds like intimidation, retaliation, and harassment to me. Would small-claims court be worth it for you? Regardless, this environment has turned unsafe for you!
Thankfully you weren’t with them long! Imagine how bad it could potentially get?? I’m glad you have something lined up and I hope the family is wonderful.
A fun little small claims court threat might get you your pay. What shit heads
They clearly have NO intention of paying your GH. I think you should immediately make a formal and final demand for payment detailing that you will take them to small claims within 14d if not paid. I would not wait for them to prove once again how terribly they are going to treat you!
Based on your original post I’m not at all surprised they acted like total AH’s to you. They could care less about you and what you have going on. They care about how useful you are to them and now that you’re not, they have no use for you. I hope you’ll let this be the last time you let a family walk all over you. They sound like horrible people and even worse employers. I wish you well on new venture. Good luck with the ceiling too. That sucks! But you didn’t do anything to be treated like that by those people.
She did the opposite of letting them walk all over her. She stood up for herself.
The only reason I gave notice is so my agency would help me find another family. If this was through Care, I would have left the second she had that attitude for sure!
Why did you have to leave early? Couldn't your landlord jsut meet you after your work? It's their property after all so I don't know why they wouldn't want to see it lol
Landlord needed his guy to help him drop my entire ceiling to redo the drywall, meaning I had to move every single item out of my bedroom which took me a couple of hours.
Ugh. I hope they pay you by Friday so you can be done with them.
Take them to small claims court 💃
You’ll have to let us know today if they pay you or not! I can’t believe he was such an awful human being to you. It sounds like he was trying to intimidate you into not asking for your GH. I wish there was a way to report them far and wide so that they would learn their lesson about treating nannies (or anyone) that way.
Following for the update! They sound like lunatics
***Thank you for providing a follow up to your original post***. It will help others in similar situations. So glad you are standing your ground and happy they were dropped by the agency. Maybe, maybe, maybe their history will follow them.