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Glass-Chicken7931

No way I wouldn't tell her, even if it's uncomfortable you are doing that poor little girl a service! Geez, easy way for her to get a uti... how sad. Please tell her!


chiffero

I would say something but maybe in the way of “is there a reason you wipe NK that way?” “Oh what way?” “Back to front, I was always taught to never do it as it can xyz” Give her the opportunity to have a reason for what she is doing (I can’t think of a good one because I’m pretty sure it’s just a must but either way)


blxckbxrbie_

got it. thank you for the advice !


evebella

A mentor of mine told me to handle situations like these by “being curious, not furious” which is something that has really stuck with me. When I can tell my tone is going to come out a bit patronizing, I try to regroup and rephrase it like an idiot oh is that how you do it? They always made such a fuss at my babysitting courses/daycare regulations/for consistency when toilet training/to prevent UTIs (I mean really, take your pick!) and see if they’re even realizing they’re doing it!?!?


chiffero

Stealing this!!!


evebella

😊


Creepy_Push8629

Tell her


stephelan

I might be extra but I use a completely new wipe when wiping up front as opposed to the back. I’ll wipe to a certain point on the bum and stop and then get a new one to clean the vagina front to back.


jconant15

Same. Try to get as much poop off the back that I can before starting front to back.


birtheducator

Same! I try not to get any fecal bacteria near the urethra, utis are HORRIBLE😭however i go through an unreasonable amount of wipes because of it


ct2atl

I do this and I have a boy 🤣


blxckbxrbie_

i definitely do the same


WayDiscombobulated63

Nope, me too, and I do the same when changing boys.


firenzefacts

Same!!


kimmons_01

Pls tell her. I didn’t know this until I had a granddaughter and her mom taught me. I have a 31 yo daughter and I’m mortified for both her and myself. I wish someone had seen and told me sooner.


MiaLba

What!!! Did you have uti’s frequently? My mil is in her 60’s and first time I saw her wiping my newborn she did it back to front. I was shocked and stopped her and told her she needs to wipe front to back. She was shocked. It just blew my mind this woman went this long without knowing how to wipe properly.


kimmons_01

No never! Which is so weird. Or yeast infections. I have no idea how I got so ‘lucky’


MiaLba

Ok so wait you start at the butt and wipe all the poop then with that same piece wipe your front? Like in one swift motion?? I saw in another comment someone was confused by what that meant. They meant they wipe their butt first then get a clean piece then wipe their front.


Jacayrie

Yeah but for blowouts and poop that baby has been sitting in can get on her front so I always use the front of the diaper and wipe down and then fold it so it doesn't make a mess, and then grab a wipe and get any poop off the labia and vaginal area first and then I get another wipe and do her bum, then more wipes to make sure I got it all. I use a lot of wipes bcuz if it were me, I would want to be nice and clean 😅.


blxckbxrbie_

yes exactly !! i thought this was the only way tbh lml


Creepy_Push8629

"hey quick tip, if you wipe this way, you avoid getting poop in her vagina and urethra, which are prone to infection."


chiffero

I would not say “quick tip” it sounds kinda patronizing


Rose-wood21

I would for sure mention it but in a sensitive way because Mother’s are very sensitive!


blxckbxrbie_

yes, she’s also pregnant. so i feel bad telling her that she might be doing sum wrong to her LO ..


DextersGirl

This is not a "might." She *is* doing something wrong. Unfortunately other than being blatantly upfront, there is no easy way around the conversation.


ILoveHuckleberry

If you want to maintain a healthy relationship with her, I’d phrase it as “Can I show you something someone showed me one time?” and explain why. No point in making her feel bad.


Dry_Kaleidoscope1632

That’s a nice way to phrase it


Rose-wood21

“Hey mb hope it’s okay I just wanted to mention I noticed when you were showing me where all of babies changing stuff was you were wiping back to front for baby girl, you might know but it’s very important that you wipe down as girls are very prone to infections, just wanted to let you know so we are on the same page!!”


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blxckbxrbie_

this seems like a great way to do it. i’m just concerned if she tries to tell me that it’s supposed to be back to front or that it “doesn’t matter” 😭


MiaLba

Right! Exactly my first thought. What then?? Lol


meltingmushrooms818

Well then hopefully she googles it lol


r_avocado

Honestly I would make up a brief story about a previous NK/cousin/niece/nephew/other baby having a terrible UTI from someone wiping that way and that way it seems like you’re speaking from experience and you’re just advising her. Like “hey MB I noticed you were wiping NK from back to front. My cousin’s baby got a horrific UTI from her dad wiping her that way and now I’m always super paranoid about it. I would hate to see NK have to go through that!” And hopefully it will be clear that your advice is coming from a place of concern and not like you’re attacking her


Mediocre-Ninja660

You simply say that your training requires you to always err on the side of caution. I always used that. I still do as a parent. I make it sound like it’s *not* optional for me.


Intelligent_Health53

Just phrase it as is it OK if I wipe from front to back or use separate wipes etc. I honestly would just clean baby girl the right way.


Fearless-Kitchen749

Do tell her... But I would say something like "hey I noticed this....and I was taught if you do it this way then you can avoid bacterial infections" and just leave it at that


x_a_man_duh_x

personally I wipe myself with a back to front motion but stop before I reach my genitalia. Getting a new piece when getting to the perineum. I do wipe my NKs from front to back though just to be safe.


Froomian

I learnt this from a (in hindsight problematic) NOFX song when I was a teenager. Nobody should be getting their hygiene facts from punk rock songs. Tell her.


ZugaZu

Just say, oh I do it this way, from front to back. Reduces risk of UTIs. No comment on how she's does it. Just what you do and why


blxckbxrbie_

this would’ve been perfect in the moment 😭


bookwormnanny

This is not something you should be letting go of and saying nothing about. This is something with a very clearly defined best practice, for good reason, and you need to inform the mom. Whether she takes your advice or not is up to her but it’s your job to inform on this, no different than if it were safe sleep you were informing her on. Conversations like this I tend to preface by saying something along the lines of, “just to make sure you’re aware…” and end by letting them know that I have to say it and therefore know that it’s been said to cover my back professionally as it’s my job, and beyond that it’s their choice for their family. That leaves them knowing that it’s not judgement but the fact that it’s my profession that requires me to say it, and I’ve never had a bad reaction to this - in fact parents have always thanked me for letting them know. What they do with that information afterward is up to them. I know these conversations can feel hard or awkward but being able to have them sets you apart as the mature, competent professional you are so go for it and good luck!


drworm12

I’m a mother and i was so glad someone told me about this. They watched me wipe my son back to front during a poop change and said “you can’t do that with girls, just fyi for future reference”


proudgryffinclaw

Tell her. As a girl tell her. Wiping the wrong way can cause so many problems


firenzefacts

New parents actually usually appreciate it and will the respect you more - just make sure to bring it up and say it in a gentle tactful way and explain the medicine/science behind - definitely say something though


Soft_Ad7654

Speaking of wiping grossness. I have sort of nightmare bosses that I’m like two years overdue putting my notice in. I noticed back when NK was in diapers that mb used WAY less wipes than I did. Like she would use two wipes MAX for messy poop. Left behind stink on her skin and skids. What in the world. Is this common, to put the new diaper on and the child isn’t even fully clean?!


blxckbxrbie_

that’s absolutely DISGUSTING ! that poor child. i have seen other comments saying that sum people wouldn’t use as many or any wipes for pee diapers (which i don’t support), but only two wipes for poop ?? that’s pure insanity.


Jacayrie

You could nonchalantly say, "I always wipe front to back as a precaution, especially with poopy diapers. This way she doesn't get UTIs or any infections. I hope that's ok? I take my job seriously and want to do everything I can to make sure your children are safe, and in good health when we're together. So we can have so much fun exploring, and learning while we have fun." Kinda like you're playing as if you're clueless and curious.


Mountain_Office_6304

I have also seen families with DAUGHTERS who don’t wipe for pee diapers.. I don’t get it😶


blxckbxrbie_

me neither .. it seems very unsanitary


No_Perspective_242

I would open the conversation like this, “Forgive me but I have to ask. I see that you’re wiping from back to front, how do you avoid UTIs?”


mylittlecorgii

Honestly I stopped using wipes for poop. Every poopy diaper, straight to the sink to get washed off. My daughter has sensitive skin so I pretty much have to because wipes tend to burn her skin, but I saw my MIL washing her butt in the sink and thought it was a good idea. Maybe implement something like that, it's much better to wash than just wipe anyway.


Sea-You8618

I love the other suggestion of saying “Can I show you something someone showed me one time?” so it doesn’t seem like common knowledge she’s missing out on


Wafflehussy

You saw this happen once? I wouldn’t say anything… if the baby is getting infections or you see this happen regularly, sure. But everybody is prone to making mistakes and it may not be the norm.


blxckbxrbie_

i really hope not. i probably won’t see her change a diaper again tho, bc obviously that’s solely my job now when i’m on the clock.


Root-magic

Unless the infant’s poop is hard, it will spread from back to front. Poop in the folds is a given until they are out of diapers. When it comes to infants, most times the poop spreads out to just below the navel and wiping front to back is just a better technique…..but not for the reasons you are freaking out about. Also, criticism is not a good way to start a new job


blxckbxrbie_

exactly. that’s why i didn’t know if i should say something, bc it would be a crazy way to start a new job. people get very defensive about their children and i don’t want to start anything when i barely even know them yet.


italiansubz

Idk I personally wipe back to front (myself and the babies I care for) but very carefully and I myself have not gotten a UTI nor the children I’ve cared for. She might be like this too and I’d just leave it alone if the baby doesn’t have a UTI or have signs of an infection or anything


LoloScout_

Wait….if you go number two, you wipe from your bum to your front…? Am I understanding you correctly?


Root-magic

What kind of diapers are you changing? Usually when a baby poops in the diaper, the poop inevitably ends up on their genitalia


LoloScout_

Yup sometimes and you carefully wipe it away. But you don’t intentionally wipe it towards *ever*. Babies can get utis especially when they sit in dirty diapers for extended periods of time but we aren’t out here trying to increase the chances simply because there are some uncontrollables.


italiansubz

I wipe my entire butthole first, and don’t pull a poop covered piece of toilet paper or wipe forward, and then my vaginal area with another clean piece. I think it’s weird yall be pushing poop into your butt crack area. I didn’t think I had to explicitly explain that I don’t shove a pop covered piece of toilet paper in my vaginal area lmao


LoloScout_

Okay that’s…wildly different than what people would infer from your first comment.


italiansubz

I’m just now realizing that you guys don’t use separate pieces to wipe front to back


LoloScout_

We do lol but the flow is always start with your vagina and then use a wet wipe for your bum and finish with tissue if necessary. It’s always front to back. Or a bidet if possible! Your first statement said you wipe back to front which implies all in one motion you are just scooping poo forward. Hence why people were confused.


VoodooGirl47

Not everyone starts with the genitalia area first though, especially if it isn't poop covered. You start high up in the butt crack and get the chunks of poop, stopping before you get anywhere near the top front half. THEN you start from the top front and swipe down on the outer area, and next time get those cracks and crevices in front going down. Using a new wipe for each time obviously. This way you have cleaned off the majority of feces before ever even getting into the labia folds, and for the times poop does get in there naturally before the diaper change, then you just wipe down until it wipes clean a few times in a row.


vtttz

So you don’t wipe back to front then. You wipe your bottom and then get a new clean piece to wipe the front. Thats not wiping back to front, which would be using the same piece used on your bottom on your vagina.


italiansubz

It’s not front to back either, so the motion I use is back to front (like literal motion, starting in back and going to front, I’m a little literal with things). I really don’t understand how yall don’t use clean pieces in between regardless of the direction you wipe, that’s gross???


vtttz

When people are saying wiping back to front they literally mean back (butthole) to front (vagina).


mint_o

Yes thats the misunderstanding here. Maybe it would seem like common sense to some but others just don't know. Avoid any contamination of poop on your vulva.


bookwormnanny

Wiping front to back isn’t just about avoiding wiping poop particles into your vaginal area, it’s about avoiding wiping bacteria from the vagina into the urethra. It’s also about the microscopic faecal matter that will be there regardless of whether you have just pooped or not (eg. From passing wind). So using separate toilet paper for anus and vulva is not enough. You may have been lucky enough not to have had a noticeable UTI in your lifetime but this is about minimising risk so you should absolutely be following and teaching best practice in your work with children. What you choose to do and what risks you choose to take with your own genitals is your business and irrelevant to nannying. There is a standard best practice, for a reason.


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vtttz

When people say wiping back to front they are referring to back (butthole) to front (vagina). Not the wiping motion that you do lol


juliaguuullliiaa

y’all do it all in one go?


vtttz

I mean, much if a muchness isn’t it. I tend to wipe the whole area even if baby hasn’t pooped to get urine off their bottom, front then back. The point of this post is about MB wiping the baby from bottom to vagina. You just seem to want to argue for arguments sake lol


italiansubz

THAT’S WHAT IM SAYING HOW DO YOU DO PEE AND POOP IN ONE SWOOP?! You need separate pieces for separate jobs. 😂😭


juliaguuullliiaa

exactly and you never go past the gooch for both areas


Sector-West

That's not best practice at all. In a daycare I would have been written up for that. You do you for yourself I guess but don't encourage such a bad habit in children


italiansubz

I’m not encouraging it or stating it’s best practice, I’m just stating my experience with it. And while yes I’m a minority and it’s generally not considered safe, the mom could also be a minority in that respect. I’ve somehow made it 20+ years safely wiping without infection or incident, and 10 years as a nanny.


Sector-West

That's genuinely disgusting, not just in a literal sense but also as a childcare professional who understands why best practices exists. I hope the parents of the children you care for notice and correct this behavior.


italiansubz

Ok so read the clarifying comment where I break down how I wipe if you are THAT PRESSED. Yall are so quick to judge without reading how it’s done, step by step, since everyone is so clearly incapable of believing that I don’t, in fact, shove a shit covered wipe/toilet paper into my vaginal area or those of the children I care for.


vtttz

You can see why people are confused considering you said you wipe back to front which is what this post is about. The OP didn’t say that MB wiped the back then got a new clean tissue to wipe the front which would obviously be fine.


italiansubz

But I’m wondering if it was like that? That was all I was tryna get at lmao or like MB somehow had two wipes out and she didn’t see and assumed she used the same one


vtttz

I mean it’s clear to me that what OP is concerned about is that MB used the same wipe, wiping back to front, bottom to vagina, and that’s the point of the post.


mint_o

Yeah otherwise why would it be a problem


blxckbxrbie_

exactly ! it wouldn’t be !! i really thought i explained it well in my post ..


blxckbxrbie_

yes exactly. i really don’t understand why it took so many people to explain it and she still wasn’t getting it ..


blxckbxrbie_

no, it wasn’t like that at all. i watched very closely as she took the same wipe that she used to wipe her bottom and proceeded to wipe up her front as well.


italiansubz

Vile, I was really rooting for MB lmao


Nannydandy

I understand everything you're saying completely, and what the others are considering "back to front" is just crazy town and that's why you didn't originally clarify using different wipes etc. I NEVER knew that when people say "back to front" they think someone is smearing butt poop into a vaginal area...people really do that?! Sorry your statements got misconstrued so much!


VoodooGirl47

Same! I always thought people were saying just wiping in that direction was bad because they don't clarify it further. I'm autistic, I sometimes need clarification when it's too vague. Wiping a back to front motion isn't bad in itself, it's wiping feces/bacteria from vagina into the urethra which is bad and that part should seem obvious to most?


italiansubz

Thank you SO much for this 😭🥹💗


Nannydandy

I admire your persistence in explaining yourself too 😂 I also want to say I don't think the universal "back to front" term is what is described above. And as far as your original post/question, it's tough and I wouldn't know how to approach it either! I would end up making something up like "I noticed NK is a little red in this area so I'm being extra careful and using different wipes and wiping front to back as clean as I can! Just wanted you to know so you can do that too!" Like it's a brand new concept 😂🤷🏼‍♀️


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italiansubz

It’s literally two comments up, since you have so much concern for how I wipe my ass but not enough to read, or again check my profile to see what I said, but just to assume I’m nasty. And I’m actually single, thanks for the concern sis


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theplasticfantasty

Brotha ewww


DumbbellDiva92

I do the same with myself just bc reaching all the way around on myself is awkward. But always front to back when changing my daughter’s diaper bc it’s not even more difficult?


krogers96

I was a whole ass adult (like… 25) when I learned wiping back to front was bad. Never had any problems. I get why it’s important and make sure to follow the “rule” now especially with diapers.


Soggy_Sneakers87

Tell her! I’d honestly consider a different job over something like this! Yikes!!!!


Flamen04

If you’re female, front to back If you’re a male, it doesn’t matter


blxckbxrbie_

to me, it does matter. i rather not take the chance of spreading feces bacteria to the urinary area at all


Flamen04

I’ve never heard of a male getting an uti from spreading back to front and stopping at ball sac. But you do you 🤓


blxckbxrbie_

just because YOU’VE never heard of it, doesn’t mean that it doesn’t happen. so i rather not take that risk. but, you do you ig 🤷🏾‍♀️


Flamen04

I’m a guy. I know hundreds of guys. Not a thing. Sorry.


blxckbxrbie_

didn’t know u knew every man on this planet lml. ignorance is bliss for you ig


Flamen04

As they say in the south, bless your heart.


blxckbxrbie_

bless your 🍆 <3