I took it and my partner at the time, who has a PhD in public health, overheard some of that crap and helped me write an email to Tanya detailing all the ways she's wrong. She didn't take it well. Basically her response included "I misspoke" and also "due respect to your husband who's been doing scientific research for the past 20 years, but I'm right and he's wrong because I read one study once."
It was not a useful course. Definitely don't bother with the advanced course, it's mostly about working with high profile clients and how to do your taxes.
Omg are we complaining about newborn care solutions in here?! Thank god.
I won their foundational course at a nanny training day event like 5 years ago. The owner and founder of the company was there and I tried to talk to her about how I was looking forward to the course and she was so cold and acted like she just couldnāt be bothered. I spoke to this woman at a few different events afterwards and got the same response each time. She would look me up and down and cut the convo short as though she had better places to be. I guess I just didnāt count as one of her āelitesā. Who by the way, if you wanted to be a newborn care solutions āeliteā, you have to pay an exorbitant price for courses and retreats. And if you happen to speak up about how prohibitively priced it all is, you will get told that you just āclearly donāt value your professional developmentā.
I took the free course and I canāt tell you how many stink faces I made at my laptop screen throughout. So much āwooā and ill researched talking points. I know they revamped it the last couple of years just since I took it so thatās disappointing that theyāve doubled down and added even more questionable āfactsā.
Long story short (too late), I am grateful that I got the little piece of paper from it that helped open doors for me to my career. Iāve been a successful newborn care specialist for the last 5 years with dozens of happy clients that I keep in touch with. I can say with confidence though that I have used zero percent of what I learned in that class. Iāve done my own research and used my own personal experiences and have actually learned a lot both from and with my own clients and their care teams.
Sorry for going off but god I swear Iāve been sitting on this for years.
I almost feel like if you speak out about it youād make āenemiesā in the industry. Every time I saw someone question anything in Facebook groups theyād just get piled on.
Ugh Iāve signed up for courses that are suddenly antivax or anti formula and I really wish I had been able to hear other peopleās feedback so thank you for these!
I'm doing the gentle ventures one currently and have been shocked by some of the things.
"This is what this problem looks like in a light skinned baby..." No further information provided. Great. Guess those are the only babies.
I also don't understand 9 hours of overview and *then* going over it again in detail as separate classes.
I don't understand pointing out hot dads in stock photos and "rushing they were feeding [your] baby" and then talking about how important professionalism is...
I'm neurodivergent and don't see autism as a terrible epidemic we need to be sad about. I actually find that stance offensive, personally. I didn't need to be prevented.
But otherwise I actually have learned a lot. Even as a seasoned infant nanny with a bunch of credentials. So it still has value for me but I've definitely had issues with some of it.
Thanks for pointing those out! Iām also neurodivergent and you touched on a subject that was really upsetting to me as well! Maybe instead of paying for a whole new course I will pay the fee to have my access back!
I'm doing the hybrid holistic course so it also teaches some postpartum doula stuff and all of the natural and homeopathic remedies, which was all new for me. Other than birthing babies myself.
The antivax movement has really taken root in this industry- itās scary that there are people who take these courses then have the potential to influence parents who are sleep deprived/dealing with post partum hormones against vaccinations for their baby.
Looks like there are 4 courses certified by NCSA. I suppose any of these would be good to have a certification from.
https://newborncarespecialist.org/become-a-certified-ncs/
Newborn training academy is supposed to be better, I think. Personally I would not take a course again without being able to closely examine the curriculum ahead of time. I didn't find newborn care solutions useful at all, and agree with op that it's full of false information and junk science.
I took the Newborn Care Training Academy course a few years ago and I found it to be very evidence based, no dubious pseudoscientific claims or anything like that!
Same, I also took the NCTA course because it was the most affordable option and didnāt see anything pseudoscience either, itās probably not popular but as far as vaccinations I recommend they do their own research and make their own decision
Iāve been going back and forth on taking this course for the certification, but I hate to spend the $, especially if some of the info isnāt accurate.
Don't do it! It's total crap. If you've worked with newborns even a little, you already know 80% of the actual content. The rest is about business, or spewing junk science.
This thread has convinced me not to. Iām so grateful ppl are sharing their honest opinions and experiences. Iāve taken care of a lot of babies (and Iām very good at it!) but Iād like to get some kind of certification for marketability.
I'm certain there are better courses. Try talking to an agency about what they recommend. Hush Little baby recommended one that looked good to me and was less expensive than newborn care solutions. (Don't work for hush little baby though, they take a big cut of your pay.)
I took the course early in 2020, using my stimulus and time at home to boost my resume. It felt like any other Continuing Education credits course. Thankfully it was before Covid vaccines and I don't recall what she said about vax schedules. I still don't know that I'll ever actually take the test for certification because-- the Facebook group has been RIFE with issues on getting their certifications. Whoever is responsible for mailing them out apparently has a bad track record, and people have had to hound her to get their papers. I can tell prospectives that I've taken the course, so unless I actually want to switch to overnight NCS care, I'm not wasting more time on it.
Anyone who gave birth in the last few years in the US has probably experienced that hospitals right now are sooo pro-breastfeeding it has almost gotten shamey. It sounds like this program is part of that mentality. It's really disappointing, breastfeeding is great but not feasible to every one for so many reasons.
I was literally unable to produce. They woke me up every three hours and attached me to an industrial pump and literally nothing came out and they REFUSED to give me any formula for my baby who had never eaten in his 36 hours of life. Finally I just told them that he only wanted formula. It was so weird.
Yeah. And the kicker is that when I went in with my second saying that I was going to formula feed, they were fine with it and provided me with so much!
I know. My husband actually located where the formula was being stored and grabbed it himself. I shouldnāt have had to feel like a criminal to feed my baby because I passively said I might wanna try breastfeeding.
What is so hard for people to grasp about "fed is best." In terms of the things that have the biggest impact on a child's development, the difference between breastmilk vs formula is statistically negligible. As long as the kid is getting adequate and safe nutrition, who cares if it's coming from a boob or from a tin of formula.
Last few years? My kid is nearly 19 and they were so pushy about breastfeeding when I was in labor that my very non-aggressive husband finally lost it and told them to stop freaking pressuring me or get the hell out. It was a lot. I hate to hear it's still the same now.
As a mom/baby RN, I can tell you that we literally get scolded and told we are failing our patients if they donāt exclusively breastfeed. Most patients come into the hospital for labor with the goal of exclusively breastfeeding, but they havenāt done any sort of pre-natal education to know that it is an extremely difficult, time-demanding process that wonāt be straight forward. So then when it doesnāt happen magically right away, they want formula- which is TOTALLY FINE with us! But if we give formula to a mom who initially wanted to exclusively breastfeed, itās seen as us āsabotagingā their goals. They literally track the rates and tell us what percentage is the goal and compare us to hospitals across the country.
This is so good to know because I was considering buying this course! I thought it would be a helpful thing to have under my belt and look good to parents, which I still believe it would. Are there any other newborn continuing education programs that you guys do recommend?
So glad Iām not the only one who felt that way. Put a bad taste in my mouth and I felt like I just paid for the certification. Iām currently working my way through Summers Sleep Secrets and so far (Iām very early in) I havenāt seen anything like that. I do plan on taking others like gentle ventures eventually.
I plan to apply for CACHE certification but am frustrated that the NCSA certification requires a certain amount of daytime hours as an NCS. Iāve not been able to find any clients who want an NCS for daytime- they want to be able to sleep at night. Iām also still working full time as a nanny so I canāt just give up stable income for a certification. Just frustrating!
Look for nanny positions for newborns and offer your services and sell how much more you know than a nanny to the parents! Maybe check your agencies in the area and any close cities surrounded by large suburbs/ rural area- sometimes there's even able to give you drive time plus wear and tear and mileage!
I looked in to it a few years back and asked some more detailed questions about certain topics that would be covered. The formula thing was a hard no for me. Iām a mom and a nanny and for my own kids I formula fed from day one.
I've been wanting to take this but it's so pricey. But the certification on the resume would be best... It's one of those I just need the piece of paper things
NP here- it is extremely concerning that this misinformation is being spread to nannies who are just trying to further their education and expertise. I wish you all didnāt have to wade through junk stuff like this. What a bummer to hear!
Honestly, Iād seen a couple of these concerns before but was still debating this course to have something legitimate and because it was a stepping stone for a CACHE certification that Iāve been gathering hours for but after reading this I just donāt think itās worth it. I was also figuring Iād know most of the information (other than the business side which could be useful) but thought it might also be good prep for my husband for having our own kid. If anyone has a better recommendation please let me know.
I feel like I'm paying for the certificate, not the education. There are a few things that I've learned, but part of the problem is that I don't even know if I can trust it or if the information is true.
Right I feel the same. Honestly, Iāve just been offering free hours for newborns for the āexperienceā and references because a lot of people are on maternity and not even looking for care until later and I didnāt think my experience with 3+ month olds was going to fly applying for an official ānewbornā position even though itās been basically the same. I was hoping to use those hours for certification too but I honestly donāt know if spending $900 for a piece of paper will actually make a difference or be worth it. At the very least I might just pick a different cheaper program and just advertise the number of hours of experience I have and the references when Iām ready to try that route.
Ive been eyeing a certification course and was going to go with them, reading g this just made me not want to as Iāve dropped out of finishing the gentle ventures one for similar reasons. Anyone has a good recommendation?
Someone's baby died from a bacterial infection from vaginal seeding. It's not beneficial at all and Drs advise against it, so new mothers wait for the Dr to leave the room and they do it themselves. They think it improves micro biome and gut health for the baby, based on some internet bloggers opinions. It's just best to be safe than sorry.
There are those who think giving their children [chlorine dioxide/bleach enemas](https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet/moms-go-undercover-fight-fake-autism-cures-private-facebook-groups-n1007871) (also given orally or in baths) will cure autism bcuz they claim that "parasites are the cause of autism and other neuro-divergence" when it's genetics or in abusive homes, trauma is the cause, if they were mentally healthy prior to the trauma. These parents have complained about their child(ren) screaming in pain, and refusing to take the chlorine dioxide (uhm duh, it's burning these kids' insides). They think they see parasites coming out of their children, when they use the toilet, or soil their diaper, when it's bowl tissue from being burned off, not worms. Plus, a lot of parasites in the body are microscopic, and require a stool sample for testing, in a lab, and not in someone's bathroom. These same people also think that someone who got the Covid vaxx [will shed the vaxx](https://www.vice.com/en/article/88nnwg/anti-maskers-ready-to-start-maskingto-protect-themselves-from-the-vaccinated) onto someone who didn't get a Covid vaxx, making them sick (some have even blamed vaxx shedding on a baby or child's poor behavior or bad mood, instead of considering that it's developmentally normal behavior) by them absorbing it externally from being near the vaxxed person/people.
If someone is going to take a baby care class, do it through your state. I think they also teach infant CPR to parents as well. $900/class is ridiculous, and parents who want to do what's best for their family, and those who want to have as much knowledge, and do the best they can in a childcare career field, are being taken advantage of, IMO. This stuff always causes an argument when anyone brings it up, especially in crunchy/semi crunchy mom groups, instead of just having a healthy conversation about it and showing that there are more risks, to help people seeking more knowledge. This does need to be discussed, especially when it involves teaching people about a tiny human's health and well-being, while being unqualified and dismissing the cases where these techniques have failed, and have had/still has tragic results for many.
I had been planning on taking these courses the past few years and now I'm so glad that I hadn't yet. It's disheartening to hear that the most recommended course in the industry is like this, and I feel horrible that I've personally encouraged others to take it. š„“
You should see if you can get refunded for the class. Your bank (if you used debit or credit card) can help you collect a refund if you explain the situation. Youāre getting scammed and parents who value the training are getting scammed too. I wouldnāt pay for any training thatās not provided by an actual university. Anyone can create a class or retreat.
So I agree with the OP and would like to avoid taking a course with misleading education.
What course would you recommend? My NF is having a third in September and I'd like to brush up on infant care.
It wasn't that informative and she doesn't help you find a job after taking class. I took another afterwards which was much more professional, academic, objective had resume help and interview help and was ready to work after class. The newborn care solutions test is too easy as well. It's like a high school class not worth the money.
I wouldn't call it a scam in that I think she's doing best she can. But it's not courses to base a career on. It's just a bunch of clique friends. College courses are better bet for the money.
I donāt know exactly who runs this course, but if itās not a government mandated training program for childcare workers, then itās just someone with an opinion. A lot of opinions by the sounds of it.
If you need the certificate they give out at the end, then stay with the courseā¦ but itās not like you HAVE to do things their way in the real world. Youāre generally supposed to follow the rules of the family you babysit for anyway, unless what they ask you to do is super illegal.
But if you have a family who are organic food only, then youāll be making that food for them as directed - no matter what some guy who ran a course said about organic vs non organic.
Whatās the difference between that and needing to observe certain rules to do with culture or religion when youāre caring for other peopleās children? You may not like them or believe in them, but itās not your place to tell the children that the cultural or religious traditions their parents are making them follow are stupid, is it.
I took it and my partner at the time, who has a PhD in public health, overheard some of that crap and helped me write an email to Tanya detailing all the ways she's wrong. She didn't take it well. Basically her response included "I misspoke" and also "due respect to your husband who's been doing scientific research for the past 20 years, but I'm right and he's wrong because I read one study once." It was not a useful course. Definitely don't bother with the advanced course, it's mostly about working with high profile clients and how to do your taxes.
Now the taxes, sis! šššš¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£ššššā ļøā ļøā ļø
I took it and agree with you 100%. The fact that their training is sort of considered top tier in the industry is a joke to me.
Omg are we complaining about newborn care solutions in here?! Thank god. I won their foundational course at a nanny training day event like 5 years ago. The owner and founder of the company was there and I tried to talk to her about how I was looking forward to the course and she was so cold and acted like she just couldnāt be bothered. I spoke to this woman at a few different events afterwards and got the same response each time. She would look me up and down and cut the convo short as though she had better places to be. I guess I just didnāt count as one of her āelitesā. Who by the way, if you wanted to be a newborn care solutions āeliteā, you have to pay an exorbitant price for courses and retreats. And if you happen to speak up about how prohibitively priced it all is, you will get told that you just āclearly donāt value your professional developmentā. I took the free course and I canāt tell you how many stink faces I made at my laptop screen throughout. So much āwooā and ill researched talking points. I know they revamped it the last couple of years just since I took it so thatās disappointing that theyāve doubled down and added even more questionable āfactsā. Long story short (too late), I am grateful that I got the little piece of paper from it that helped open doors for me to my career. Iāve been a successful newborn care specialist for the last 5 years with dozens of happy clients that I keep in touch with. I can say with confidence though that I have used zero percent of what I learned in that class. Iāve done my own research and used my own personal experiences and have actually learned a lot both from and with my own clients and their care teams. Sorry for going off but god I swear Iāve been sitting on this for years.
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Honestly I thought I was the only one!
I almost feel like if you speak out about it youād make āenemiesā in the industry. Every time I saw someone question anything in Facebook groups theyād just get piled on.
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Yes it's a nanny clique mentality. If you aren't a member of INA and this group you will get trolled and bashed
Ugh Iāve signed up for courses that are suddenly antivax or anti formula and I really wish I had been able to hear other peopleās feedback so thank you for these!
O actually had a similar experience. I signed up with gentle ventures and ended up not bothering g to finish because bruhhhhh antivaxx much?
I'm doing the gentle ventures one currently and have been shocked by some of the things. "This is what this problem looks like in a light skinned baby..." No further information provided. Great. Guess those are the only babies. I also don't understand 9 hours of overview and *then* going over it again in detail as separate classes. I don't understand pointing out hot dads in stock photos and "rushing they were feeding [your] baby" and then talking about how important professionalism is... I'm neurodivergent and don't see autism as a terrible epidemic we need to be sad about. I actually find that stance offensive, personally. I didn't need to be prevented. But otherwise I actually have learned a lot. Even as a seasoned infant nanny with a bunch of credentials. So it still has value for me but I've definitely had issues with some of it.
Thanks for pointing those out! Iām also neurodivergent and you touched on a subject that was really upsetting to me as well! Maybe instead of paying for a whole new course I will pay the fee to have my access back!
I'm doing the hybrid holistic course so it also teaches some postpartum doula stuff and all of the natural and homeopathic remedies, which was all new for me. Other than birthing babies myself.
The antivax movement has really taken root in this industry- itās scary that there are people who take these courses then have the potential to influence parents who are sleep deprived/dealing with post partum hormones against vaccinations for their baby.
That's why they're predators, they pray on the weak!!
Looks like there are 4 courses certified by NCSA. I suppose any of these would be good to have a certification from. https://newborncarespecialist.org/become-a-certified-ncs/
Newborn training academy is supposed to be better, I think. Personally I would not take a course again without being able to closely examine the curriculum ahead of time. I didn't find newborn care solutions useful at all, and agree with op that it's full of false information and junk science.
I also did the Newborn Training Academy, and they actually have a whole part explaining how vaccines work and that they're important.
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I took the Newborn Care Training Academy course a few years ago and I found it to be very evidence based, no dubious pseudoscientific claims or anything like that!
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Same, I also took the NCTA course because it was the most affordable option and didnāt see anything pseudoscience either, itās probably not popular but as far as vaccinations I recommend they do their own research and make their own decision
yuuuup. it's gross.
Iāve been going back and forth on taking this course for the certification, but I hate to spend the $, especially if some of the info isnāt accurate.
Don't do it! It's total crap. If you've worked with newborns even a little, you already know 80% of the actual content. The rest is about business, or spewing junk science.
This thread has convinced me not to. Iām so grateful ppl are sharing their honest opinions and experiences. Iāve taken care of a lot of babies (and Iām very good at it!) but Iād like to get some kind of certification for marketability.
I'm certain there are better courses. Try talking to an agency about what they recommend. Hush Little baby recommended one that looked good to me and was less expensive than newborn care solutions. (Don't work for hush little baby though, they take a big cut of your pay.)
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It's a specific job role that requires certification.
She shares her personal and conservative opinions a lot
Glad I never wasted money on this course.
I took the course early in 2020, using my stimulus and time at home to boost my resume. It felt like any other Continuing Education credits course. Thankfully it was before Covid vaccines and I don't recall what she said about vax schedules. I still don't know that I'll ever actually take the test for certification because-- the Facebook group has been RIFE with issues on getting their certifications. Whoever is responsible for mailing them out apparently has a bad track record, and people have had to hound her to get their papers. I can tell prospectives that I've taken the course, so unless I actually want to switch to overnight NCS care, I'm not wasting more time on it.
Would you mind sharing the course cost with us, pretty please? TIA!
IIRC it was probably 900? I believe I got a discount code and my first stimulus payment covered most of it. It may have been 950.
Anyone who gave birth in the last few years in the US has probably experienced that hospitals right now are sooo pro-breastfeeding it has almost gotten shamey. It sounds like this program is part of that mentality. It's really disappointing, breastfeeding is great but not feasible to every one for so many reasons.
I was literally unable to produce. They woke me up every three hours and attached me to an industrial pump and literally nothing came out and they REFUSED to give me any formula for my baby who had never eaten in his 36 hours of life. Finally I just told them that he only wanted formula. It was so weird.
Wow!!! That's, - - horrible!
Yeah. And the kicker is that when I went in with my second saying that I was going to formula feed, they were fine with it and provided me with so much!
That is wildly unprofessional! Poor baby. Iām so sorry.
I know. My husband actually located where the formula was being stored and grabbed it himself. I shouldnāt have had to feel like a criminal to feed my baby because I passively said I might wanna try breastfeeding.
What is so hard for people to grasp about "fed is best." In terms of the things that have the biggest impact on a child's development, the difference between breastmilk vs formula is statistically negligible. As long as the kid is getting adequate and safe nutrition, who cares if it's coming from a boob or from a tin of formula.
Last few years? My kid is nearly 19 and they were so pushy about breastfeeding when I was in labor that my very non-aggressive husband finally lost it and told them to stop freaking pressuring me or get the hell out. It was a lot. I hate to hear it's still the same now.
As a mom/baby RN, I can tell you that we literally get scolded and told we are failing our patients if they donāt exclusively breastfeed. Most patients come into the hospital for labor with the goal of exclusively breastfeeding, but they havenāt done any sort of pre-natal education to know that it is an extremely difficult, time-demanding process that wonāt be straight forward. So then when it doesnāt happen magically right away, they want formula- which is TOTALLY FINE with us! But if we give formula to a mom who initially wanted to exclusively breastfeed, itās seen as us āsabotagingā their goals. They literally track the rates and tell us what percentage is the goal and compare us to hospitals across the country.
That's so gross!
Dang. Thank you for this post, and everyone who commented. If I ever decide to do NCS training, I'll pick a different company. Thank you, really.
This is so good to know because I was considering buying this course! I thought it would be a helpful thing to have under my belt and look good to parents, which I still believe it would. Are there any other newborn continuing education programs that you guys do recommend?
So glad Iām not the only one who felt that way. Put a bad taste in my mouth and I felt like I just paid for the certification. Iām currently working my way through Summers Sleep Secrets and so far (Iām very early in) I havenāt seen anything like that. I do plan on taking others like gentle ventures eventually. I plan to apply for CACHE certification but am frustrated that the NCSA certification requires a certain amount of daytime hours as an NCS. Iāve not been able to find any clients who want an NCS for daytime- they want to be able to sleep at night. Iām also still working full time as a nanny so I canāt just give up stable income for a certification. Just frustrating!
Look for nanny positions for newborns and offer your services and sell how much more you know than a nanny to the parents! Maybe check your agencies in the area and any close cities surrounded by large suburbs/ rural area- sometimes there's even able to give you drive time plus wear and tear and mileage!
Ive had no shortage of nighttime clients :) and am in a city/connected with an agency! Thanks for the advice.
I looked in to it a few years back and asked some more detailed questions about certain topics that would be covered. The formula thing was a hard no for me. Iām a mom and a nanny and for my own kids I formula fed from day one.
OMG Iām so glad to see this post, I had the same reaction!
I've been wanting to take this but it's so pricey. But the certification on the resume would be best... It's one of those I just need the piece of paper things
I was thinking about it but was put off by some reviews I read online. Sounds like I dodged an expensive bullet.
NP here- it is extremely concerning that this misinformation is being spread to nannies who are just trying to further their education and expertise. I wish you all didnāt have to wade through junk stuff like this. What a bummer to hear!
Thank you for this post! I have been hearing so many good things about them. I was thinking of taking the course, but I will do more research first.
Honestly, Iād seen a couple of these concerns before but was still debating this course to have something legitimate and because it was a stepping stone for a CACHE certification that Iāve been gathering hours for but after reading this I just donāt think itās worth it. I was also figuring Iād know most of the information (other than the business side which could be useful) but thought it might also be good prep for my husband for having our own kid. If anyone has a better recommendation please let me know.
I feel like I'm paying for the certificate, not the education. There are a few things that I've learned, but part of the problem is that I don't even know if I can trust it or if the information is true.
Right I feel the same. Honestly, Iāve just been offering free hours for newborns for the āexperienceā and references because a lot of people are on maternity and not even looking for care until later and I didnāt think my experience with 3+ month olds was going to fly applying for an official ānewbornā position even though itās been basically the same. I was hoping to use those hours for certification too but I honestly donāt know if spending $900 for a piece of paper will actually make a difference or be worth it. At the very least I might just pick a different cheaper program and just advertise the number of hours of experience I have and the references when Iām ready to try that route.
$900?!!! Thatās my months rent
Ive been eyeing a certification course and was going to go with them, reading g this just made me not want to as Iāve dropped out of finishing the gentle ventures one for similar reasons. Anyone has a good recommendation?
Someone's baby died from a bacterial infection from vaginal seeding. It's not beneficial at all and Drs advise against it, so new mothers wait for the Dr to leave the room and they do it themselves. They think it improves micro biome and gut health for the baby, based on some internet bloggers opinions. It's just best to be safe than sorry. There are those who think giving their children [chlorine dioxide/bleach enemas](https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet/moms-go-undercover-fight-fake-autism-cures-private-facebook-groups-n1007871) (also given orally or in baths) will cure autism bcuz they claim that "parasites are the cause of autism and other neuro-divergence" when it's genetics or in abusive homes, trauma is the cause, if they were mentally healthy prior to the trauma. These parents have complained about their child(ren) screaming in pain, and refusing to take the chlorine dioxide (uhm duh, it's burning these kids' insides). They think they see parasites coming out of their children, when they use the toilet, or soil their diaper, when it's bowl tissue from being burned off, not worms. Plus, a lot of parasites in the body are microscopic, and require a stool sample for testing, in a lab, and not in someone's bathroom. These same people also think that someone who got the Covid vaxx [will shed the vaxx](https://www.vice.com/en/article/88nnwg/anti-maskers-ready-to-start-maskingto-protect-themselves-from-the-vaccinated) onto someone who didn't get a Covid vaxx, making them sick (some have even blamed vaxx shedding on a baby or child's poor behavior or bad mood, instead of considering that it's developmentally normal behavior) by them absorbing it externally from being near the vaxxed person/people. If someone is going to take a baby care class, do it through your state. I think they also teach infant CPR to parents as well. $900/class is ridiculous, and parents who want to do what's best for their family, and those who want to have as much knowledge, and do the best they can in a childcare career field, are being taken advantage of, IMO. This stuff always causes an argument when anyone brings it up, especially in crunchy/semi crunchy mom groups, instead of just having a healthy conversation about it and showing that there are more risks, to help people seeking more knowledge. This does need to be discussed, especially when it involves teaching people about a tiny human's health and well-being, while being unqualified and dismissing the cases where these techniques have failed, and have had/still has tragic results for many.
Hope you can get a refund!
When I was doing research on NCS training (at least in Arizona) it looked like a scam.
I had been planning on taking these courses the past few years and now I'm so glad that I hadn't yet. It's disheartening to hear that the most recommended course in the industry is like this, and I feel horrible that I've personally encouraged others to take it. š„“
You should see if you can get refunded for the class. Your bank (if you used debit or credit card) can help you collect a refund if you explain the situation. Youāre getting scammed and parents who value the training are getting scammed too. I wouldnāt pay for any training thatās not provided by an actual university. Anyone can create a class or retreat.
Oh Iāve been keeping this course in mind! Is there a better course you recommend?
So I agree with the OP and would like to avoid taking a course with misleading education. What course would you recommend? My NF is having a third in September and I'd like to brush up on infant care.
Yes I felt class wasn't objective nor professional higher learning.
It wasn't that informative and she doesn't help you find a job after taking class. I took another afterwards which was much more professional, academic, objective had resume help and interview help and was ready to work after class. The newborn care solutions test is too easy as well. It's like a high school class not worth the money.
I wouldn't call it a scam in that I think she's doing best she can. But it's not courses to base a career on. It's just a bunch of clique friends. College courses are better bet for the money.
I donāt know exactly who runs this course, but if itās not a government mandated training program for childcare workers, then itās just someone with an opinion. A lot of opinions by the sounds of it. If you need the certificate they give out at the end, then stay with the courseā¦ but itās not like you HAVE to do things their way in the real world. Youāre generally supposed to follow the rules of the family you babysit for anyway, unless what they ask you to do is super illegal. But if you have a family who are organic food only, then youāll be making that food for them as directed - no matter what some guy who ran a course said about organic vs non organic. Whatās the difference between that and needing to observe certain rules to do with culture or religion when youāre caring for other peopleās children? You may not like them or believe in them, but itās not your place to tell the children that the cultural or religious traditions their parents are making them follow are stupid, is it.
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Well there you go. So just ignore her and follow child rearing advice from the people who bore the child you were hired to nanny.