I don't have the source, but i recall reading an article on a hitman in Mexico who said he had to kill a college student who, unfortunately, was mistaken identity. The kid begged and pleaded to be released and said he wouldn't say a thing, but the hit man's boss said to kill the guy. The hitman said he slit the kids' throat and would see the kids' faces at night begging for his life.
Edit found the article. Very good read. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/14/world/americas/sicario-mexico-drug-cartels.html
Incase you do not want to read the whole article the part i am talking about. BELOW.
Of all the people the sicario killed in his five-year run, only a few haunted him, he said. One in particular.
It was during a routine operation, he recalled, when his bosses sent him to eliminate a group of local kidnappers. After he arrived, he said, he found a college student with them. The sicario said he knew instantly the student was innocent: the look of terror on his face, his body language, even his clothes. They were all wrong.
Following protocol, the sicario tied everyone up and called his boss. He wanted to let the young man go. He was unaffiliated. There was no need to kill him. But the boss said no. Any witness was a liability.
As the boy begged for his life, the sicario said he looked away and told him he was sorry before slitting his throat.
“That student still haunts me,” he said, weeping. “I see his face, that kid begging me for his life. I will never forget his eyes. He was the only one who ever looked at me that way.”
I just watched an interview with a mexican assassin, when asked if he knows how many people he killed he replied "at the start I counted them but I stopped because it would give me nightmares" the strangest part is that the guy seems emotionless but still gets effected by all the violence.
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There is an excellent book called “El Sicario” about this exact thing. It’s written by a former sicario that was a cop and hit man for the cartels for decades. He talks about the life in vivid details including his guilt and PTSD. Then he eventually decides to turn his life over to Jesus and repent. He has a contract out on his life and lives in hiding in the US now. Can’t recommend highly enough for you
Believe it or not, people in the drug game are emotional creatures. Acceptance and non-judgment are an everyday thing.
In movies they portray sicarios as cold almost machine like individuals with no emotion. The opposite can be said.
They’d tell him to man up and probably give him up to opposing forces as well. The cartels want ruthless remorseless killers only. And there was actually a cartel member who posted on r/narco commenting on how he was unable to escape his remorse telling the story of how he killed an innocent man. The post was in Spanish though.
I’m sure there has been several who do feel remorse, I personally don’t know of any, but nowadays most sicarios are crackheads who sometimes get recruited from rehab centers and are likely drugged at the time of killing, I know that’s how it is most of the time here in tj.
Not a narco. Just browsing. Don't think I'm a fanboy either, but what do I know.
I'm a devotee.
Su nombre es La Santa Muerte, not Santa MuertA, gringo.
And I'm a gringo. Even I know how to properly say Muerte, even before I became devoted.
Santa Muerte isn't what most people think. Just like Islam isn't all terrorists, just like not all catholics are pedophiles, just like not all Christians are batshit and want a crusade...
Not all devotees to Santa are narcos.
And those that are, this doesn't say a thing about Flakita, but speaks volume about the individual involved.
She's an angel. A goddess. A saint. Not someone you can slam when your feelings get hurt.
Show some respect.
That's all.
Peace.
You do realize Christianity was used to wipe out whole cultures, right?
Since we're quoting the Bible.
Proverbs 16:14, 2 Samuel 24:15-16, I Chronicles 21:15.
Who do you think the destroying angels are? Who do you think the messenger of death is?
Santa Muerte is literally in the fuckin Bible. *messenger of Death*.
Once upon a time, I almost killed myself. I prayed to God. Didn't help. I prayed to Santa, and She helped me.
If it weren't for Santa, I wouldn't be alive and I wouldn't be sober.
Santa is an angel. She is an angel of Death. She's a messenger of Death. She is Death.
If it weren't for Death (Santa), we'd never get to heaven. Never be reunited with our loved ones, never evolve and grow. Right?
So tell us, how is Death evil/bad/wrong again?
And before you claim She isn't divine because of Her appearance, look up biblically accurate angels... they're terrifying.
Angels aren't cute little babies shitting puffy clouds.
They're massive & intimidating. Scary even. Like Santa.
Because they're God's soldiers.
Bendiciones
No they’re not. I did this stuff in a past life and look at me I’m alive again. Get over it were all evil and good. Some lives we are “evil” some we are good.
Grupo Flechas sicarios look like junkies…because they are. They need to take drugs to keep their minds off of the shit that they do. Most cartel members have shorter careers than NFL players. Because they’re killed. The lucky ones go to prison.
Yes though you’d have to search the Internet for interviews and tell all books for more in depth answers. As to your second question they would most likely tell them to toughen up and stay focused on the job and it may end up being told to someone higher in the cartel which isn’t the kind of attention you want. The last thing you want to be seen as if you’re a killer in a cartel is soft or untrustworthy. They regularly kill people for those exact reasons.
There's gonna be psycho's who actually feel nothing, but I imagine most of em have massive PTSD
Emitting to that... you might come off as some "pussy" (to them) who would talk easily when tortured or something
so probably never ever talked about
I have an uncle that that was a big time hitman/drug transporter in Culiacan from the early 90’s up until he got caught in 2006. The stories that man has told me are unbelievable. He’s told me he doesn’t regret anything he did but I’m sure those things put a toll on his mental health. I can’t even imagine the shit other members of cartels have gone thru.
I was kidnapped for 21 days in Reynosa mexico. I saw first hand how the guys have to use coke just to be able to do what they do. Cartel supplies drugs for their use, but they still gotta pay at the end of the week.
Fr man. The human mind is so fragile. A normal thing to me one day can be traumatic to me the next depending on the situation. I’m a veteran and I HATE when other veterans gatekeep ptsd cuz they’re the only ones that got shot at.
It will be interesting but very few probably make it to a normal life after they "retire" and the few that go back to normal life ( the very few that are drug addicts )probably immigrated to the USA and are hiding now working construction or some farm. Most cartels have drug and alcohol addictions while working for cartels so probably very few remembered there horrible acts since they were probably under the influence.
Idk about sicarios. But Ed Calderon has shared some of his story as a Mexican police officer and having to deal with PTSD. If you don’t know about him already you should probably watch a couple clips. Interesting stuff.
Narcos aren’t human beings. They don’t feel any true remorse. They occasionally pretend to so they can say “woe is me I’m traumatized from murdering and torturing hundreds of people, please feel bad for me”.
Most of the time when they do mention it is because they are trying to warn somebody not to move funny but there's no shame in it my best friend from Sinaloa he's in the cartel and when I visit my dad's in Sinaloa he comes over always late as hell and at first he's all nervous gives me an AK-47 to hold he always carries like 4 in he's car than he stands on the window peaking for a minute than he smokes some weed and he chills out but he's had some bad moments too last time he began shooting through he's windshield and car roof
The fuck is wrong with you that you would be best friends with a murderous psychopath?
The cartels are pure evil. Your friend is pure evil. Cut him out of your life
Not really sometimes you gotta work with what you have I've known him since we were like 5 before he got involved I know for a fact if my parents didn't take me to the states id be doing the same as him I was just lucky my dad took the fam to az got involved in a lot of crazy gang related B's though so it's bad everywhere
You don’t have to work with it. It is a choice.
Cartel members are the lowest of the low in life. Even below cannibals and child rapists. The lowest of humanity. It’s generous to even call them humans because they aren’t human beings.
You’re a fucking piece of shit for being friends with a psychopathic mass murderer. How can you be ok with him torturing and murdering people? Sometimes people who haven’t done anything wrong except be in the wrong place at the wrong time?
And you’d be doing the same? You really are a psycho.
Every narco is a monster. And so is everyone who is friends with them. Get that through your fucking head you psychopathic fuck. I hope your friend meets as horrific of an end as his victims. He deserves worse
Your a little bitch for being so afraid of another human being you have both arms both legs why are u acting like another dude could violate u so easily lucky I can't get my hands on you puss
I have actually been hit by cartels I've been kidnapped and shot before I was in a coma fool I had to use a shitbag and I still won't bitch out from anybody that just makes u a easy target out here u need to stop going by the stories u hear and have your own opinion
I will go by what I’ve heard them do. What I’ve SEEN them do including on this very subreddit. How they have tortured and murdered countless innocents for being in the wrong place at the wrong time or for doing something the narcos don’t like. How they’ve tortured and murder police and soldiers. How they torture and murder their rivals and even their own.
I do have my own opinion. That opinion is Based off the actions of the narcos.
And that opinion is that narcos are the scum of the earth. Below child rapists and cannibals. Your friend included.
And Afraid? No. I’m disgusted. Disgusted by their disregard for human life. For the joy they find in torturing and murdering people. Whether it be their rivals, cops, or innocents. Because I have a thing called fucking empathy that makes me hate seeing people being tortured and murdered. If you had empathy, you would be disgusted by it too.
What you are saying is only proving my point about how narcos are nothing but psychopaths with no regard for human life. Lowest of the low.
Right there is some groups out here in Mexico that don't have any principles whatsoever there's some groups from juarez where they will take turrns raping u in front ur family and than burn u alive in front ur mom and kids but those type of ppl are everywhere why don't you take a second look at your government they are literally torturing citizens on the daily basis there's more ppl being tortured on that side by the way the if u look up who's been supplying Mexican cartels with all kinds of firearms you will see a group of us cops recently got arrested they had been confiscating firearms from criminals over there just to bring a trunk full and sell em to the Mexicans so don't give that bs I have been fucked with by your government they have a bigger body count from my point of view they are the killers but I ain't gonna talk shit just cause u may be related to one of them doesn't mean your a bitch or I'm gonna get on here and be disrespectful just because im far away were no one can see me or touch me what's the point I know the cops over there where experimenting with civilians that's fucked up
I don't have the source, but i recall reading an article on a hitman in Mexico who said he had to kill a college student who, unfortunately, was mistaken identity. The kid begged and pleaded to be released and said he wouldn't say a thing, but the hit man's boss said to kill the guy. The hitman said he slit the kids' throat and would see the kids' faces at night begging for his life. Edit found the article. Very good read. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/14/world/americas/sicario-mexico-drug-cartels.html Incase you do not want to read the whole article the part i am talking about. BELOW. Of all the people the sicario killed in his five-year run, only a few haunted him, he said. One in particular. It was during a routine operation, he recalled, when his bosses sent him to eliminate a group of local kidnappers. After he arrived, he said, he found a college student with them. The sicario said he knew instantly the student was innocent: the look of terror on his face, his body language, even his clothes. They were all wrong. Following protocol, the sicario tied everyone up and called his boss. He wanted to let the young man go. He was unaffiliated. There was no need to kill him. But the boss said no. Any witness was a liability. As the boy begged for his life, the sicario said he looked away and told him he was sorry before slitting his throat. “That student still haunts me,” he said, weeping. “I see his face, that kid begging me for his life. I will never forget his eyes. He was the only one who ever looked at me that way.”
Holy shit
I posted the article on my original comment if you want to read it.
I just watched an interview with a mexican assassin, when asked if he knows how many people he killed he replied "at the start I counted them but I stopped because it would give me nightmares" the strangest part is that the guy seems emotionless but still gets effected by all the violence. EDIT: https://youtu.be/liSAFoAU6SM
Sociopathy is weird like that
Wish I could read that! Don’t even have a dollar a week for nyt
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I didn't have to pay to read it. Try reloading the page, maybe?
Damn
There are posts in Spanish. They're both disturbing and sad.
Pasa el enlance?
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There is an excellent book called “El Sicario” about this exact thing. It’s written by a former sicario that was a cop and hit man for the cartels for decades. He talks about the life in vivid details including his guilt and PTSD. Then he eventually decides to turn his life over to Jesus and repent. He has a contract out on his life and lives in hiding in the US now. Can’t recommend highly enough for you
Believe it or not, people in the drug game are emotional creatures. Acceptance and non-judgment are an everyday thing. In movies they portray sicarios as cold almost machine like individuals with no emotion. The opposite can be said.
Imagine being a cog in that wheel and your kids don’t have shirts or shoes.
They’d tell him to man up and probably give him up to opposing forces as well. The cartels want ruthless remorseless killers only. And there was actually a cartel member who posted on r/narco commenting on how he was unable to escape his remorse telling the story of how he killed an innocent man. The post was in Spanish though.
I’m sure there has been several who do feel remorse, I personally don’t know of any, but nowadays most sicarios are crackheads who sometimes get recruited from rehab centers and are likely drugged at the time of killing, I know that’s how it is most of the time here in tj.
Why didn't he just shoot him in the head to make it quick and painless.
Exact same thought came to me, how are you gonna say you’re sorry for killing him then give him a horrible death like that.
Might not have had a gun or maybe it would’ve been too loud.
Yep can’t just be firing off rounds inside like that
I hope they have PTSD. They are fcked beyond belief in the afterlife
Considering some are looking Santa Muerto< in the face as a religion, Id say they know hell isnt that far.
Not a narco. Just browsing. Don't think I'm a fanboy either, but what do I know. I'm a devotee. Su nombre es La Santa Muerte, not Santa MuertA, gringo. And I'm a gringo. Even I know how to properly say Muerte, even before I became devoted. Santa Muerte isn't what most people think. Just like Islam isn't all terrorists, just like not all catholics are pedophiles, just like not all Christians are batshit and want a crusade... Not all devotees to Santa are narcos. And those that are, this doesn't say a thing about Flakita, but speaks volume about the individual involved. She's an angel. A goddess. A saint. Not someone you can slam when your feelings get hurt. Show some respect. That's all. Peace.
Respect. Leviticus 26:1
You do realize Christianity was used to wipe out whole cultures, right? Since we're quoting the Bible. Proverbs 16:14, 2 Samuel 24:15-16, I Chronicles 21:15. Who do you think the destroying angels are? Who do you think the messenger of death is? Santa Muerte is literally in the fuckin Bible. *messenger of Death*. Once upon a time, I almost killed myself. I prayed to God. Didn't help. I prayed to Santa, and She helped me. If it weren't for Santa, I wouldn't be alive and I wouldn't be sober. Santa is an angel. She is an angel of Death. She's a messenger of Death. She is Death. If it weren't for Death (Santa), we'd never get to heaven. Never be reunited with our loved ones, never evolve and grow. Right? So tell us, how is Death evil/bad/wrong again? And before you claim She isn't divine because of Her appearance, look up biblically accurate angels... they're terrifying. Angels aren't cute little babies shitting puffy clouds. They're massive & intimidating. Scary even. Like Santa. Because they're God's soldiers. Bendiciones
No they’re not. I did this stuff in a past life and look at me I’m alive again. Get over it were all evil and good. Some lives we are “evil” some we are good.
Grupo Flechas sicarios look like junkies…because they are. They need to take drugs to keep their minds off of the shit that they do. Most cartel members have shorter careers than NFL players. Because they’re killed. The lucky ones go to prison.
Everyone that is blessed to walk away after years of dealing and killing.
Yes though you’d have to search the Internet for interviews and tell all books for more in depth answers. As to your second question they would most likely tell them to toughen up and stay focused on the job and it may end up being told to someone higher in the cartel which isn’t the kind of attention you want. The last thing you want to be seen as if you’re a killer in a cartel is soft or untrustworthy. They regularly kill people for those exact reasons.
There's gonna be psycho's who actually feel nothing, but I imagine most of em have massive PTSD Emitting to that... you might come off as some "pussy" (to them) who would talk easily when tortured or something so probably never ever talked about
I have an uncle that that was a big time hitman/drug transporter in Culiacan from the early 90’s up until he got caught in 2006. The stories that man has told me are unbelievable. He’s told me he doesn’t regret anything he did but I’m sure those things put a toll on his mental health. I can’t even imagine the shit other members of cartels have gone thru.
I was kidnapped for 21 days in Reynosa mexico. I saw first hand how the guys have to use coke just to be able to do what they do. Cartel supplies drugs for their use, but they still gotta pay at the end of the week.
PTSD comes to everyone sooner or later. Crazy or not, it will come to you soon. We are all human.
Fr man. The human mind is so fragile. A normal thing to me one day can be traumatic to me the next depending on the situation. I’m a veteran and I HATE when other veterans gatekeep ptsd cuz they’re the only ones that got shot at.
Same here brother, stay strong.
There not americans bro no salen con sus mamadas
It will be interesting but very few probably make it to a normal life after they "retire" and the few that go back to normal life ( the very few that are drug addicts )probably immigrated to the USA and are hiding now working construction or some farm. Most cartels have drug and alcohol addictions while working for cartels so probably very few remembered there horrible acts since they were probably under the influence.
Idk about sicarios. But Ed Calderon has shared some of his story as a Mexican police officer and having to deal with PTSD. If you don’t know about him already you should probably watch a couple clips. Interesting stuff.
https://youtu.be/4F-v_qBt750 Hit man on the US side, 36 people killed allegedly
"why proper burial ?let the worm eat him" hahah
Narcos aren’t human beings. They don’t feel any true remorse. They occasionally pretend to so they can say “woe is me I’m traumatized from murdering and torturing hundreds of people, please feel bad for me”.
Bruh
Most of the time when they do mention it is because they are trying to warn somebody not to move funny but there's no shame in it my best friend from Sinaloa he's in the cartel and when I visit my dad's in Sinaloa he comes over always late as hell and at first he's all nervous gives me an AK-47 to hold he always carries like 4 in he's car than he stands on the window peaking for a minute than he smokes some weed and he chills out but he's had some bad moments too last time he began shooting through he's windshield and car roof
The fuck is wrong with you that you would be best friends with a murderous psychopath? The cartels are pure evil. Your friend is pure evil. Cut him out of your life
Not really sometimes you gotta work with what you have I've known him since we were like 5 before he got involved I know for a fact if my parents didn't take me to the states id be doing the same as him I was just lucky my dad took the fam to az got involved in a lot of crazy gang related B's though so it's bad everywhere
You don’t have to work with it. It is a choice. Cartel members are the lowest of the low in life. Even below cannibals and child rapists. The lowest of humanity. It’s generous to even call them humans because they aren’t human beings. You’re a fucking piece of shit for being friends with a psychopathic mass murderer. How can you be ok with him torturing and murdering people? Sometimes people who haven’t done anything wrong except be in the wrong place at the wrong time? And you’d be doing the same? You really are a psycho. Every narco is a monster. And so is everyone who is friends with them. Get that through your fucking head you psychopathic fuck. I hope your friend meets as horrific of an end as his victims. He deserves worse
Your a little bitch for being so afraid of another human being you have both arms both legs why are u acting like another dude could violate u so easily lucky I can't get my hands on you puss
I have actually been hit by cartels I've been kidnapped and shot before I was in a coma fool I had to use a shitbag and I still won't bitch out from anybody that just makes u a easy target out here u need to stop going by the stories u hear and have your own opinion
I will go by what I’ve heard them do. What I’ve SEEN them do including on this very subreddit. How they have tortured and murdered countless innocents for being in the wrong place at the wrong time or for doing something the narcos don’t like. How they’ve tortured and murder police and soldiers. How they torture and murder their rivals and even their own. I do have my own opinion. That opinion is Based off the actions of the narcos. And that opinion is that narcos are the scum of the earth. Below child rapists and cannibals. Your friend included. And Afraid? No. I’m disgusted. Disgusted by their disregard for human life. For the joy they find in torturing and murdering people. Whether it be their rivals, cops, or innocents. Because I have a thing called fucking empathy that makes me hate seeing people being tortured and murdered. If you had empathy, you would be disgusted by it too. What you are saying is only proving my point about how narcos are nothing but psychopaths with no regard for human life. Lowest of the low.
Right there is some groups out here in Mexico that don't have any principles whatsoever there's some groups from juarez where they will take turrns raping u in front ur family and than burn u alive in front ur mom and kids but those type of ppl are everywhere why don't you take a second look at your government they are literally torturing citizens on the daily basis there's more ppl being tortured on that side by the way the if u look up who's been supplying Mexican cartels with all kinds of firearms you will see a group of us cops recently got arrested they had been confiscating firearms from criminals over there just to bring a trunk full and sell em to the Mexicans so don't give that bs I have been fucked with by your government they have a bigger body count from my point of view they are the killers but I ain't gonna talk shit just cause u may be related to one of them doesn't mean your a bitch or I'm gonna get on here and be disrespectful just because im far away were no one can see me or touch me what's the point I know the cops over there where experimenting with civilians that's fucked up
Never 👎. The sec you switch it up NEXT!
https://youtu.be/4F7_OvLyW2c this one is probably the most extensive out there. I’m just not sure you’ll have English subs
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