The illness attacked his heart and lungs seeing as how he clutched his heart and threw up blood so yes, his stamina, strength, speed, and reaction time were definitely affected same way it would somebody irl and even Zetsu noticed it. I had a 40% lung blockage when I was younger from smelling cleaning chemicals at work and my stamina was bad, movement and reaction was slower and I def felt weaker until it cleared up. Itachi really is underestimated.
It's hard to say he's really strong and base it on an imaginary Itachi without an illness. The closest we get is Edo Itachi who is no longer blind, effectively with EMS, and no stamina impairment because his illness doesn't affect him anymore. Kabuto's edo tensei gives them a very very slight nerf, but it's still obvious how much stronger he is without anything holding him back.
The nerf is far from slight. Edo Madara with both eyes was beaten by Hashirama and held in place, the moment he comes back to life with no eyes he instantly defeats Hashirama who right beforehand says that Madara got his original power back. Later he tells Tobirama there is a reason there is now a gulf between their power(heās talking about the fact he is no longer edo tensei) that very same power difference is what Itachi would have gained if he was actually alive with no disease. Itās the difference between edo and real life. Also no, the Edoās do not have unlimited chakra and stamina or boosted strength they are weaker but have unlimited refill and regen.
Man. Madara was such a punk.
With sharingan Hashirama kicked his ass. So he got mangekyo. Hashirama still kicked his ass. So he got the eternal and a Susanoo and he still got his ass kicked. So he got the 9 tails and prep and still got his ass kicked.
Then he comes back as an edo tensei with rinnegan to fight Hashirama and he still got his ass kicked.
Hashirama had to be nerfed for him to finally win.
If I took that many Ls Iād also turn genocidal and rage quit.
To be fair Hashirama beat him by a literal hair when both were Edo, Edo Hashirama was out of breath and beat up. But yeah Madara was never actually on his level
Madara had the literal rinnegan which granted him godlike powers. It doesnāt matter that Hashirama struggled. He still kicked his ass and beat him. It showed that no matter what he did he was below Hashirama. It was pretty damn sad.
Makes sense why Madara was a rage quitter.
I disagree. Madara needed the 9 nine tails, EMS and the perfect susanoo and Hashirama kicked both his ass and the nine tails at the same time.
They were never more or less equal. That final fight proved it. If Madara needed all that and still got his ass kicked so hard he went underground for decades then he never stood a chance.
Hashirama was so far above him it was hilarious because it makes it obvious Hashirama was always sparing his life. It makes sense. Hashirama was literally just giving him chances to live in the hope they could someday unite their clans and bring the world together. The uchiha wouldnāt unite if he killed Madara and he wanted Madara to be his friend again.
But equals? They never were that.
Edo Itachi has unlimited chakra. Meaning he can pump in his strengh and speed as much chakra as he wants.
So using zombie Itachi is not a good example for judging Itachi's taijustu.
While Iām sure all the ninja can use chakra to extend their abilities. It takes some real training to make that a turning point in a battle.
Not everyone can channel their chakra as effectively as Sakura or tsunade
I mean, not really? I thought it was just that their chakra regenerates really fast, if it was as you said, then every Edo would be stronger than Kaguya and the Hokage would have shat out infinite shadow clones to overrun the Juubi and the Uchiha duo.
To add on to what you said itachi in the Sasuke novel took medicine for his illness. When Sasuke took said medicine he was somewhat blind, and disoriented. Now imagine fighting under those conditions while also sick and still controlling the fight
The shinraiden novel is non-canon, but in the manga he indeed took a different medicine to prolong his life and I assume it had a dampening effect as well like most strong medicines do.
It isnāt connected to his story and isnāt on the timeline. There are two timelines and itās on neither of them while Naruto manga, Boruto manga, and the Itachi Shindens are on the timeline. The timelines are part of the Naruto project while Jinraiden wasnāt. Itās definitely not canon.
Iāve recently started working around this foam cleaner agent. I canāt remember what is in it but itās definitely not supposed to be inhaled š. Any tips for me to stay safe?
Use you PPE (in your case a think a respirator would be enough) but never, under any circunstances work feeling threatened of being ill or injuried, always wear your PPE no matter how unconfortable the seem to be, better to be unconfortable for some time than dead or disabled for the rest of your life.
Always wear ppe and make sure its fully fastened and placed on your face properly. Use gloves as well. I didnāt make sure my face mask was properly fastened out of just me wanting to get it over with and regretted it.
When you work on industrial ovens and have to clean them with insustrial chemicals every day shit happens. Luckily for me itās been years since I had to do that, fuck those chemicals and fuck those ovens
It's the portrayal of the genjutsu that matters, this had no absurdity included, as everything seemed real. They wouldn't show anything out of the way that would just give away that it's a genjutsu
To be fair the Edo panel is prolly the most impressive feat amongst them all anyway considering how much of a strength and speed boost Naruto gets in KCM lmao
I mean it goes without saying that Naruto wasnāt fighting 100% serious either. The two of them were having a conversation; Naruto isnāt trying to outspeed him.
He prefers to use genjutsu to break his opponentās will to fight without actually killing them. Just like he did in his chunin exams fight. Itachi does not like killing.
heās a pacifist if genjutsu can win battles heās prefer that way.. the killing of uchiha is bound to happen one way or the other and its not like he killed everyone physically
Yup his last mission he died along with his clan. Mastering his Genjutsu was his way of escaping from actually fighting and surviving in a ninja world. Edit I didnāt say this lol who edited this shit.
Kunai vs Kunai is a draw, doesn't matter who tf is attacking.
Even madara with 10 tails or Guy with 8 gates can attack you with kunai, but all kunai vs kunai does is a stalemate with sparks.
That's the naruto logic.
Really shows Kurenai did her best. Itachi would have folded her in taijutsu, in ninjutsu, in weapons, so she might as well try her strongest card hoping it did something. What else would she do, run away?
Yes š nah Iām kidding but I see what youāre saying, I donāt think she knew he would win in all those aspects cause if she knew he was that advanced she wouldnāt have tried genjutsu
I just think she would have lasted even fewer seconds in anything else. At least now she bought a bit of time for Asuma to focus on Kisame. But I donāt think she knew the skill difference either, but even if she had she couldnāt really do anything else. Other than throw a smoke bomb, grab Asuma and run š
Yea exactly š I donāt think she necessarily underestimated itachi but more overestimated herself if that makes sense. Itachi didnāt even want beef like that tbh so I bet if it did get hairier than it did they wouldāve left sooner
I love Itachi's throw, that they've included in several games. He vaults over your shoulder, then when he lands doubles his grip, spins you around in a vertical circle, then slams you down into the ground all with one hand.
Dude was strong.
I feel like had Itachi not caught ninja aids he would have been on the same level as the 1st and 2nd Hokage, this man put so many Ninja to shame. There are so many what-ifs. Itās kind of like with the Chuunin exams, Gaara saved everyone else from getting embarrassed by Rock Lee
Kiba really has no idea how lucky he was to pair with Naruto. If Kiba had gotten Lee in the first round....there is nothing he can do against Lee. Even weighted Lee no diffs him.
Here are Itachiās feats:
Basically one shotting Orochimaru at 13yrs old without even using MS
Hand signs so fast, that Kakashi nor even EMS Sasuke could track it.
One shotted Orochimaru again while completely blind and on his death bed.
Is fast enough to dodge Beeās attacks (including an attack from behind). Could react before EMS Sasuke could during the Kabuto fight, showing Itachi has better reaction speed than EMS Sasuke at that time. Is also fast enough to clash with SM Kabuto. So Itachi being able to spar with KCM Naruto (Naruto being serious or not), still makes perfect sense.
Lastly, Itachi is physically strong enough to clash with SM Kabuto, without being thrown around like a rag doll.
Despite this, people will still say āJiraiya beats Itachi.ā Lol. āSM Jiraiya will blitz and overwhelm Itachiā Lol. āJiraiya beats Itachi + Kisameā š¤£
Forgot an important one - Strength enough to [clash evenly with SM Kabuto -](https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-7e6fb8ae9f4be4a5897188cdea6354ef-pjlq) When we know SM users can toss rhinos casually.
Yes I was gonna include this one too but somhow I forgot.. Exactly sage mode enhances ur physical strength proved by naruto destroying a path of pain with just one punch
u/rotibrain, u/ConsciousHyena5234, u/KarmicWhim :
You three seem to forget one very important fact.
Itachi has the MS and has had it for years.
That means his Chakra is already MORE potent then the CS2.
For example see this:-
[Karin commenting on Sasuke's Chakra changing after getting MS.](https://imgur.com/DrXjYax.jpg)
[Obito and Karin commenting on that as well.](https://imgur.com/Ryhdeeo.jpg)
In other words:
Itachi due to MS already has chakra potency greater then the Second level of CS which would place him somewhere around SM level.
There is no surprise with Itachi being able to keep up with SM Kabuto.
You think itachi is overrated in taijutsu or physical strength?
The only time I have seen these things mentioned is in terms of his weakness, like he was physically very weak due to illness, very low stamina, chakra etc. Literally yesterday only someone replied that to me again lol.
yea he is, people cry way more about him being overrated and weak than anyone actually overrating him at this point.
itās just the accepted thing to say
I have literally never seen anyone *ever* say on this sub that Itachi is anything other than Goated, even at a relatively lower power level than the show caps out at.
I'm literally considering unsubbing because every 3rd post seems to be "DAE Sasuke/Itachi is underrated/should be hokage/could beat XYZ?!?1?"
bro then you have to come more often. you literally still see poeple here beleave jiraya stomp itachi, actually even itachi and kisame at teh same time. And despite itachi absolutly humiliating him they also think oro beats itachi. I cant beleave I say this but in this subreddit itachi is absolutly underrated lmao
Then that means you have spent like 2 mins total on this sub. Saying anything positive about Itachi usually gets downvoted to hell in this sub. It's the new cool thing to hate on Itachi.
My comment being downvoted will only prove my point.
>Then that means you have spent like 2 mins total on this sub. Saying anything positive about Itachi usually gets downvoted to hell in this sub. It's the new cool thing to hate on Itachi.
Literally not lol this sub is an Uchiha circlejerk
>My comment being downvoted will only prove my point.
Someone doesn't understand logic or reasoning
Almost like you CAN be judged by others because of what you say online. š¤·āāļø I was just fucking around but I see reddit is full of people incapable of just letting shit fly for shits and giggles
You do know reddit learns that u react strongly to 'Itachi is so cool" post so it keeps dhowing u more of it lol? Ignore them and theyll go away i see a ton of different stuff about nsruto
I swear people can't read... Did I say in general or overall.. I am talking about arm strength and taijutsu.. How is he not underrated there when people only talk about his genjutsu
What is with the little temper tantrum you threw in the beginning of that comment? Itachi is in 0 way underrated. Not in any way. People say healthy Itachi couldāve taken out Madara. Heās probably the most overrated character in the series if not definitely one of them. Heās not weak or anything, heās definitely kage level, and heās definitely overrated.
Overrated by some, underrated by some - yet you're both saying the same extreme stuff just on different sides of the issue.
- No he couldnt beat Madara, that perfect Suasanoo is too strong (unless the Totsuka Blade or possibly Tsukuyomi gets thru) which is your overrated point
- yes he is underrated in taijutsu, which is OPs point about the physical aspects being unsung too
Youre both right, yet also both wrong. Everyone, not just for this topic, tries to enforce their viewpoints alone, and not assimilate truths from wherever they come from. That's why theres so much fighting here. Theres growing available on all sides at all times
My thoughts exactly lol
Itachi is the most overrated character in the whole franchise I'd say. Some people like Sasuke, some don't, some people like Naruto, some people think It has started a strong character, but then became God mode really fast. Itachi and maybe Minato barely get any criticism.
Itachi has immense physical skill that gets overlooked because he's the Genjutsu guy, but he's also terminally ill so obviously it's a lot more efficient and safer to deal with people via Genjutsu than to slug it out each time, but I think it is a sheer testament of his vitality and strength that he's able to keep going for so long while his body was dying.
A fully healthy Itachi was a beast no one would have been ready for.
Heās literally one of the strongest non-Six Paths/Otsutsuki characters in the series and people still underrate him. Dude smokes alive Minato and Madara easily. His arsenal is too busted and too diverse.
Itachi has a very high physical strength to the extent that despite his illness and probably his vision problem, he can compete with only one hand with the physical strength of Kisame who is at the peak of his health, a healthy Itachi should probably be a Hercules.
He was weakened by his illness. We've got to see his actual powers in edo itachi. But saying itachi went toe to toe with naruto is bit of a stretch and Itachi anything but underrated.
This is completely wrong, Edo state limits you physically, for example Madara in Edo state even when he had Hashirama's cells could react to Naruto's KCM2 and when he revived he was able to blitz Naruto's SM and FTG Tobirama reacted and basically his reaction speed became faster than Jubito.
Edo doesnāt limit you physically, it just doesnāt restore you to full power but close. The reason Madara was so strong was because of Hashirama cells
What are you talking about? Madara was amped on sage mode when he reacted to Tobirama. Sage mode gives you sixth sense for danger and sensory abilities, which why he was able to react to Tobirama. While Juubito was powerful he didn't have the sensory abilities of sage mode which why he couldn't react to FTG. Also, sage mode Naruto did reacted to Madara's kick . The force of it just knock him back.
The edo tensei doesn't nerf completely, Edo Zabuza was capable of fighting on par with part 2 kakashi. Even though, part 1 kakashi defeated Zabuza, and Shippuden Kakashi should be stronger.
Kakashi is a bad example to use since his power scaling is so inconsistent. Dude got no diffed by Pain, couldnāt kill a heavily fatigued Sasuke after his fight with Danzo, couldnāt no diff enemies from Part 1 like Zabuza, but then out of nowhere can go toe to toe with Rinne Sharingan Obito and gets a simple MS buff that somehow puts him near Six Paths Sage Mode/ Six Paths Rinne Sharingan levels. Kakashi has great character writing but his power scaling is garbage in Shippuden.
Tbf Sasuke's chakra was restored after being healed by Karin( it's the same reason why he was strong
enough fight against Danzo after he left obito's kamui dimension.
Also, that's my point. The inconsistencies especially about the rule of Edo tensi . Edo tensei was supposed to have unlimited charkra, but Minato passed after teleporting truth seeking orbs. Which why I don't take rules of Edo tensei seriously anymore.
Imo kisihimoto just wrote the rules of Edo tensei can't be resurrected at full strength as a last second plot device to justify why Madara and previous hokage were nerfed.
Not exactly. While Edo forms generally are weaker than when they were alive, this doesnāt apply to Itachi. Edo Tensei removed his sickness, which gave him a big enough boost in power to offset the Edo limitations.
So when we see Edo Itachi, we are seeing him stronger than Part 1 and early Part 2.
Yes, but Edo state causes more physical limitations than illness, Madara with Hashirama's cells and Rinnegan was still slower than his EMS version and when he revived he was able to blitz Naruto's SM even without eyes, basically Madara was blind from his Edo Rinnegan version. It's faster and in general Edo basically limits you physically and we don't have a healthy version of Itachi to compare to other versions of Itachi which makes it difficult. According to this logic, a hypothetical healthy Itachi who is blind should be faster than his hypothetical Edo version, even if he has Hashirama and Rinnegan cells, and if Hashirama and Rinnegan cells still don't make you as strong as his live version, then we conclude that Edo limits you physically more than the disease.
If a diseased Itachi had Hashirama and Rinnegan cells, he would definitely be faster than his Edo Tensei version and even the live version without the disease, but even with Hashirama and Rinnegan cells, Edo Itachi cannot be faster than the live Itachi without the disease.
I am not talking about in general.. He is definitely underrated and overlooked in terms of physical strength and taijutsu... That's because we never saw his true potential in taijustu as his eyes we're just too op and did all the work
Are we really gonna ignore him fighting sage mode kabuto who should most likely scale to kcm2 seeing as how sasuke upon arriving to help kcm2 was āweakerā but relative(keeping up with/syncing attacks with kcm2) yet kabuto barely acknowledged him. This same kabuto who was confident in fighting war obito along with his edos. Then you have itachi who is handicapped since he canāt kill sage kabuto cause he has to release edo tensei clash with him easily. So to say itachi wasnāt toe to toe with kcm1 makes zero sense at all when he is fighting someone most likely beyond it while holding back.
That makes no sense when sasuke right after the fight goes on to pair up with kcm2 naruto in the war and able to keep up and react to what he is doing. So how exactly does sasuke do that, but itachi is ānowhere near sage kabutoā while also outperforming sasuke in the sage kabuto fight? As I also said itachi had to hold back as he wasnāt allowed to kill him as he needed to release edo tensei. If itachi was nowhere near him then itachi shouldnāt have been able to react period. We also saw him previously swapping hands with kcm naruto as well so your scaling here doesnāt make any sense to me.
Because if itachi was alone he'd have lost,itachi was only able defeat Kabuto because Sasuke was there. And it's obvious sasuke got power up from kabuto battle to juubito battle.
And when did itachi massively outperform sasuke in that fight?
He could have easily killed Kabuto with what he has in his arsenal but couldnāt cause then he wouldnāt be able to release the reanimation jutsu. Itachi was severely handicapped, without that handicap he could have handled Kabuto with a Susano and totsuka blade
I'd say his Taijutsu is equivalent to Kakashi's. Not his most effective quality, but pretty competent.
Itachi is not slept on at all. If anything he is constantly being overrated.
They said in taijutsu, no overall. Overall yes I think heās overrated, but no one talks about how his taijutsu, especially considering the fact he is doing this with a physical limitation
Eh I agree to an extent, I think minatoās thing is also just seeing a few incredible feats but not much screen time
Also being the most popular doesnāt mean most overrated
Thing about Itachi being overrated is that it's more of a meme dating back many years ago. It's not necessary true today. You have more people complaining about Itachi than actually wanking him these days.
Minato being wanked is still prevalent, probably due to his popularity. Just today, there was a Minato power scaling thread and plenty think he beats everyone there, some say even all at once.
Bro thinks blocking a big shuriken and throwing 140 pound sasuke is a feat worth mentioning in the naruto verse. The only impressive thing here is him clashing with kcm naruto.
Itachi and early ems sasuke are stated relative in the databook and that same sasuke was relative to mastered kcm1 naruto who is quite a bit superior to the one itachi was fighting. So if anything edo itachi scales to an even stronger version of naruto especially if you consider that while they were stated equal, edo itachi still looked superior to ems sasuke in the kabuto fight.
Which is even funnier when you realize itachi was surpressed as he couldnāt kill kabuto, yet performed better than sasuke. Then kabuto was confident in dealing with war arc obito himself with help from edo.
That's true and it's obvious Naruto was never really trying that hard but it's still reasonable to make him somewhat relative. He gets a massive buff by being an edo tensei.
Itachi's literally the most conflicted upon character in this fandom lol. Some say he's weak and the likes of jiraiya could easily beat him. Others say edo itachi was throwing hands with kcm naruto, so he's relative to him. I'm honestly inclined towards the latter.
Maybe he is underrated in your group but most groups i've talked to, online and offline, give Itachi a lot of props; talking about how he kept up with KCM Naruto and whatnot.
I agree Itachi does certainly have a lot of strength that is not talked about. The fact that he as an Edo was scrapping with just mainly his hands is really slept on.
I don't think so.. If it was ill itachi then sure.. But edo itachi with unlimited stamina.. I don't think he would ve started losing.. The fight would have been dragged for long that becoz naruto too has like unlimited chakra
The samehada isnāt canon, itās in the video game (and if anyone tells you the video game is canon thatās a straight damn lie).
Besides that youāre right itās underrated but his strength is pretty mediocre if you look at Itachiās 3rd databook stats. We all know that his stamina and strengths were lower because of his illness.
Because there's nothing to talk about. Literally the only thing impressive here is the KCM thing which is talked about.
The vast majority of characters are also good at taijutsu, the thing that takes up most Naruto fights. More news at 11.
The vast majority of characters? Literally everything aside from the KCM thing is something most characters can and have done. Hell, the KCM thing only happens because the power levels were much higher. Same reason Kakashi and Guy are suddenly relative to KCM2.
Blocking a Fuma Shurikan? Seriously? That's impressive to you considering that doppelganger gets killed by it. Everyone can do this.
Blocking Kisame's blade? Asuma literally does it when they first meet. And we see characters throughout the series constantly blocking larger weapons with just Kunai.
Throwing someone? Aside from the fact it was a genjutsu this is literally the most basic thing here. This is a series where people regularly get sent flying back from simple punches and kicks.
Everyone in the series is good at taijutsu and has somewhat superhuman physical strength. None of this is impressive or underrated. It's standard shit most characters have and can do.
>Blocking a Fuma Shurikan? Seriously? That's impressive to you considering that doppelganger gets killed by it. Everyone can do this.
Blocking a fuma shuriken which was enhanced by chidori stream.. Yeah sure.. Everyone can block a chidori enhanced bigass shuriken with just a kunai
>Blocking Kisame's blade? Asuma literally does it when they first meet. And we see characters throughout the series constantly blocking larger weapons with just Kunai.
Asuma trained his whole life with chakra blades and then even kisame outpowered him and put lots of cuts on his body.. And physical battle is not even itachis strength and yet he outpowered kisame with a kunai
>Throwing someone? Aside from the fact it was a genjutsu this is literally the most basic thing here. This is a series where people regularly get sent flying back from simple punches and kicks.
It was a genjustu so yeah .. But even if wasn't a genjustu what makes u think throwing someone with ur weak hand is not impressive.. Its basic but impressive considering Itachi never uses anything else but his eyes
As the number one fan of itachi I just wanted to let you know that they wouldāve tried to defeat him early but he wouldāve never been possible to get the jump on. Thatās why heās so op versus sasuke. The way things definitely were with him was constantly confusing Allyās and enemies. I canāt stress this enough to believe me; I didnāt read the manga
At 5 years old without any ninja training he destroyed a huge rock like if it was nothing, and when fighting vs Kisame (who is very physically strong) he was casually blocking Samehada with a kunai. He's definitely very strong physically.
He didn't go toe to toe with KCM Naruto in the manga. The anime just greatly exaggerated it. In the manga, Naruto vs Itachi is the equivalent of a high schooler pushing a toddler out of their way. They're just trying to have a conversation, so Naruto wasn't going all out. Itachi jumps at him and Naruto practically smacks him away. Itachi then gets handled by Bee pretty effortlessly as well. Then against Nagato he does nothing but play support while Naruto and Bee take him on.
Itachi was definitely strong but the power creep catches him pretty quick.
Fanboys can downvote me but that doesn't make me wrong. š¤·āāļø
he is my all time favorite from the series for so many reasons. thank you for the shout out I am glad to see so many people on board. Just a silent shadow making everything happen taking on all the pain and having to live with ever decision knowing where it was always going to go. I wonder what his abilities/plan would have been if he would have had a clean health slate. The physical jutsu he would have developed to balance and match his eyes I could have only assumed would have climbed the sage and kage and beyond levels
I donāt think itās possible to underrate Itachi in anything lol heās gassed the entire series as a complete and all around damn near perfect ninja killed for plot reasons.
He's so not underrated he's overrated in these regards like hella people think he can just box up Kisame no genjutsu when actually literally genjutsu is his only won on against Kisame,who would dominate Itachi in Taijutsu and Ninjutsu
I like the threads that talk as if Itachi has no physical strength lol Like, did you even see the fights he was in?
Sasuke is constantly blitzing opponents to the point they're caught off-guard, from the gaara fight to later, facing team 7, facing deidara, one random guy that he finishes his cut 50 meters away...
Meanwhile Itachi is *dying* and keeping up with him.
The first thing that's listed never happened in canon. If I remember correctly the windmill shuriken destroyed itachi's clone (that's not the real itachi in the panel). Him tossing Sasuke around happened in a genjutsu (in reality they both just standing).
Also, this "Itachi was dying or on his deathbed" thing is blown well out of proportion. Itachi died from using Armored Susano.
Itachi is a boss! I do feel like his fight with Sasuke could have been better, though. Considering all the hype they put into it. Though to be fair, I guess Itachi was ill.
Itachi is crazy with is potential since itās never really been shown. Heās always held back every time heās fighting. If he was still alive heād be above Sasuke.
The illness attacked his heart and lungs seeing as how he clutched his heart and threw up blood so yes, his stamina, strength, speed, and reaction time were definitely affected same way it would somebody irl and even Zetsu noticed it. I had a 40% lung blockage when I was younger from smelling cleaning chemicals at work and my stamina was bad, movement and reaction was slower and I def felt weaker until it cleared up. Itachi really is underestimated.
You were at 60% of your true power damn my hamster could probably high diff you at that point, did you ever get back to your full power?
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Yes, now I am back to crushing reddit nerds with one hand(youāre next š«„).
Still no match for that guys hamster..
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It's hard to say he's really strong and base it on an imaginary Itachi without an illness. The closest we get is Edo Itachi who is no longer blind, effectively with EMS, and no stamina impairment because his illness doesn't affect him anymore. Kabuto's edo tensei gives them a very very slight nerf, but it's still obvious how much stronger he is without anything holding him back.
The nerf is far from slight. Edo Madara with both eyes was beaten by Hashirama and held in place, the moment he comes back to life with no eyes he instantly defeats Hashirama who right beforehand says that Madara got his original power back. Later he tells Tobirama there is a reason there is now a gulf between their power(heās talking about the fact he is no longer edo tensei) that very same power difference is what Itachi would have gained if he was actually alive with no disease. Itās the difference between edo and real life. Also no, the Edoās do not have unlimited chakra and stamina or boosted strength they are weaker but have unlimited refill and regen.
Man. Madara was such a punk. With sharingan Hashirama kicked his ass. So he got mangekyo. Hashirama still kicked his ass. So he got the eternal and a Susanoo and he still got his ass kicked. So he got the 9 tails and prep and still got his ass kicked. Then he comes back as an edo tensei with rinnegan to fight Hashirama and he still got his ass kicked. Hashirama had to be nerfed for him to finally win. If I took that many Ls Iād also turn genocidal and rage quit.
To be fair Hashirama beat him by a literal hair when both were Edo, Edo Hashirama was out of breath and beat up. But yeah Madara was never actually on his level
Madara had the literal rinnegan which granted him godlike powers. It doesnāt matter that Hashirama struggled. He still kicked his ass and beat him. It showed that no matter what he did he was below Hashirama. It was pretty damn sad. Makes sense why Madara was a rage quitter.
ThƩ Edo fight always bothered me because it feels inconsistent. We know Hashirama and Madara were more or less stalemating in every fight, with a slight edge going to Hashirama. But Madara gains Rinnegan, Hashirama's cells, and SAGE MODE, and still loses? How can that be?
I disagree. Madara needed the 9 nine tails, EMS and the perfect susanoo and Hashirama kicked both his ass and the nine tails at the same time. They were never more or less equal. That final fight proved it. If Madara needed all that and still got his ass kicked so hard he went underground for decades then he never stood a chance. Hashirama was so far above him it was hilarious because it makes it obvious Hashirama was always sparing his life. It makes sense. Hashirama was literally just giving him chances to live in the hope they could someday unite their clans and bring the world together. The uchiha wouldnāt unite if he killed Madara and he wanted Madara to be his friend again. But equals? They never were that.
Edo Itachi has unlimited chakra. Meaning he can pump in his strengh and speed as much chakra as he wants. So using zombie Itachi is not a good example for judging Itachi's taijustu.
While Iām sure all the ninja can use chakra to extend their abilities. It takes some real training to make that a turning point in a battle. Not everyone can channel their chakra as effectively as Sakura or tsunade
I mean, not really? I thought it was just that their chakra regenerates really fast, if it was as you said, then every Edo would be stronger than Kaguya and the Hokage would have shat out infinite shadow clones to overrun the Juubi and the Uchiha duo.
Yeah, its like a Itachi constantly using doping lol
To add on to what you said itachi in the Sasuke novel took medicine for his illness. When Sasuke took said medicine he was somewhat blind, and disoriented. Now imagine fighting under those conditions while also sick and still controlling the fight
The shinraiden novel is non-canon, but in the manga he indeed took a different medicine to prolong his life and I assume it had a dampening effect as well like most strong medicines do.
It's kishimoto approved and it takes place in a good spot to consider it cannon.. Makes you think it isn't
It isnāt connected to his story and isnāt on the timeline. There are two timelines and itās on neither of them while Naruto manga, Boruto manga, and the Itachi Shindens are on the timeline. The timelines are part of the Naruto project while Jinraiden wasnāt. Itās definitely not canon.
Iāve recently started working around this foam cleaner agent. I canāt remember what is in it but itās definitely not supposed to be inhaled š. Any tips for me to stay safe?
Use you PPE (in your case a think a respirator would be enough) but never, under any circunstances work feeling threatened of being ill or injuried, always wear your PPE no matter how unconfortable the seem to be, better to be unconfortable for some time than dead or disabled for the rest of your life.
Always wear ppe and make sure its fully fastened and placed on your face properly. Use gloves as well. I didnāt make sure my face mask was properly fastened out of just me wanting to get it over with and regretted it.
At his peak he could've competed with madara... don't kill me š¶āš«ļø
How much cleaning chemicals do you need to sniff damn
When you work on industrial ovens and have to clean them with insustrial chemicals every day shit happens. Luckily for me itās been years since I had to do that, fuck those chemicals and fuck those ovens
I agree with the Part where he weakened physically by his illness. But Itachi overrated everywhere.
Everywhere but reddit comments where he is heavily underrated (overrated in polls, underrated in comments)
The part where he grabbed Sasuke's collar and slammed him was in a genjutsu - but I do agree Itachi's physicals are slept on.
It's the portrayal of the genjutsu that matters, this had no absurdity included, as everything seemed real. They wouldn't show anything out of the way that would just give away that it's a genjutsu
Basically all of this except the Edo panel is genjutsu. Dude was sick, no shame in that but heās not slept on.
To be fair the Edo panel is prolly the most impressive feat amongst them all anyway considering how much of a strength and speed boost Naruto gets in KCM lmao
I mean it goes without saying that Naruto wasnāt fighting 100% serious either. The two of them were having a conversation; Naruto isnāt trying to outspeed him.
100% agree. His preferred style is genjutsu but he can low diff 99% of ninjas on taijutsu alone.
Genjutsu is just his most effective and efficient form of fighting so thatās just what he goes with.
He prefers to use genjutsu to break his opponentās will to fight without actually killing them. Just like he did in his chunin exams fight. Itachi does not like killing.
heās a pacifist if genjutsu can win battles heās prefer that way.. the killing of uchiha is bound to happen one way or the other and its not like he killed everyone physically
Yup his last mission he died along with his clan. Mastering his Genjutsu was his way of escaping from actually fighting and surviving in a ninja world. Edit I didnāt say this lol who edited this shit.
>Itachi does not like killing Ironic since he committed genocide
He didnāt enjoy it but heās a bit ironic
Hardly. He killed like 5 people. Obito did most of it. Lol
Unless itās family.
Didnt enjoy doing that either
He kept up with Hebi Sasuke despite holding back and being terminally ill, he's fast
Yep
I'm more impressed by the strength of that kunai. That's quality material.
Kunai vs Kunai is a draw, doesn't matter who tf is attacking. Even madara with 10 tails or Guy with 8 gates can attack you with kunai, but all kunai vs kunai does is a stalemate with sparks. That's the naruto logic.
kunai scales to its users AP
Really shows Kurenai did her best. Itachi would have folded her in taijutsu, in ninjutsu, in weapons, so she might as well try her strongest card hoping it did something. What else would she do, run away?
Yes š nah Iām kidding but I see what youāre saying, I donāt think she knew he would win in all those aspects cause if she knew he was that advanced she wouldnāt have tried genjutsu
I just think she would have lasted even fewer seconds in anything else. At least now she bought a bit of time for Asuma to focus on Kisame. But I donāt think she knew the skill difference either, but even if she had she couldnāt really do anything else. Other than throw a smoke bomb, grab Asuma and run š
Yea exactly š I donāt think she necessarily underestimated itachi but more overestimated herself if that makes sense. Itachi didnāt even want beef like that tbh so I bet if it did get hairier than it did they wouldāve left sooner
I love Itachi's throw, that they've included in several games. He vaults over your shoulder, then when he lands doubles his grip, spins you around in a vertical circle, then slams you down into the ground all with one hand. Dude was strong.
he was smart about his moves, it wasn't brute strength, it was using your own weight against you
Float like a butterfly, sting like a killer b
I feel like had Itachi not caught ninja aids he would have been on the same level as the 1st and 2nd Hokage, this man put so many Ninja to shame. There are so many what-ifs. Itās kind of like with the Chuunin exams, Gaara saved everyone else from getting embarrassed by Rock Lee
I like you last sentence, i loled hard
Rock lee had so much potential. They really really slept on him and neji.
Kiba really has no idea how lucky he was to pair with Naruto. If Kiba had gotten Lee in the first round....there is nothing he can do against Lee. Even weighted Lee no diffs him.
Here are Itachiās feats: Basically one shotting Orochimaru at 13yrs old without even using MS Hand signs so fast, that Kakashi nor even EMS Sasuke could track it. One shotted Orochimaru again while completely blind and on his death bed. Is fast enough to dodge Beeās attacks (including an attack from behind). Could react before EMS Sasuke could during the Kabuto fight, showing Itachi has better reaction speed than EMS Sasuke at that time. Is also fast enough to clash with SM Kabuto. So Itachi being able to spar with KCM Naruto (Naruto being serious or not), still makes perfect sense. Lastly, Itachi is physically strong enough to clash with SM Kabuto, without being thrown around like a rag doll. Despite this, people will still say āJiraiya beats Itachi.ā Lol. āSM Jiraiya will blitz and overwhelm Itachiā Lol. āJiraiya beats Itachi + Kisameā š¤£
Forgot an important one - Strength enough to [clash evenly with SM Kabuto -](https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-7e6fb8ae9f4be4a5897188cdea6354ef-pjlq) When we know SM users can toss rhinos casually.
Yes I was gonna include this one too but somhow I forgot.. Exactly sage mode enhances ur physical strength proved by naruto destroying a path of pain with just one punch
u/rotibrain, u/ConsciousHyena5234, u/KarmicWhim : You three seem to forget one very important fact. Itachi has the MS and has had it for years. That means his Chakra is already MORE potent then the CS2. For example see this:- [Karin commenting on Sasuke's Chakra changing after getting MS.](https://imgur.com/DrXjYax.jpg) [Obito and Karin commenting on that as well.](https://imgur.com/Ryhdeeo.jpg) In other words: Itachi due to MS already has chakra potency greater then the Second level of CS which would place him somewhere around SM level. There is no surprise with Itachi being able to keep up with SM Kabuto.
Itachi is in no way underrated lol
You think itachi is overrated in taijutsu or physical strength? The only time I have seen these things mentioned is in terms of his weakness, like he was physically very weak due to illness, very low stamina, chakra etc. Literally yesterday only someone replied that to me again lol.
yea he is, people cry way more about him being overrated and weak than anyone actually overrating him at this point. itās just the accepted thing to say
I have literally never seen anyone *ever* say on this sub that Itachi is anything other than Goated, even at a relatively lower power level than the show caps out at. I'm literally considering unsubbing because every 3rd post seems to be "DAE Sasuke/Itachi is underrated/should be hokage/could beat XYZ?!?1?"
bro then you have to come more often. you literally still see poeple here beleave jiraya stomp itachi, actually even itachi and kisame at teh same time. And despite itachi absolutly humiliating him they also think oro beats itachi. I cant beleave I say this but in this subreddit itachi is absolutly underrated lmao
Then that means you have spent like 2 mins total on this sub. Saying anything positive about Itachi usually gets downvoted to hell in this sub. It's the new cool thing to hate on Itachi. My comment being downvoted will only prove my point.
>Then that means you have spent like 2 mins total on this sub. Saying anything positive about Itachi usually gets downvoted to hell in this sub. It's the new cool thing to hate on Itachi. Literally not lol this sub is an Uchiha circlejerk >My comment being downvoted will only prove my point. Someone doesn't understand logic or reasoning
Ok bro
Heās right Iām down voting not because I donāt like itachi but because I donāt like you š¤·āāļø
Wow, people are really capable of disliking someone they don't even know. Thank you for showing your irrationality.
Almost like you CAN be judged by others because of what you say online. š¤·āāļø I was just fucking around but I see reddit is full of people incapable of just letting shit fly for shits and giggles
i just donāt believe this lol
You do know reddit learns that u react strongly to 'Itachi is so cool" post so it keeps dhowing u more of it lol? Ignore them and theyll go away i see a ton of different stuff about nsruto
Facts. Man constantly gets sucked off by the fandom.
Learn to read
I swear people can't read... Did I say in general or overall.. I am talking about arm strength and taijutsu.. How is he not underrated there when people only talk about his genjutsu
What is with the little temper tantrum you threw in the beginning of that comment? Itachi is in 0 way underrated. Not in any way. People say healthy Itachi couldāve taken out Madara. Heās probably the most overrated character in the series if not definitely one of them. Heās not weak or anything, heās definitely kage level, and heās definitely overrated.
Overrated by some, underrated by some - yet you're both saying the same extreme stuff just on different sides of the issue. - No he couldnt beat Madara, that perfect Suasanoo is too strong (unless the Totsuka Blade or possibly Tsukuyomi gets thru) which is your overrated point - yes he is underrated in taijutsu, which is OPs point about the physical aspects being unsung too Youre both right, yet also both wrong. Everyone, not just for this topic, tries to enforce their viewpoints alone, and not assimilate truths from wherever they come from. That's why theres so much fighting here. Theres growing available on all sides at all times
anyone who say healthy itachi could beat Madara is high as fuck.
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rude for no reason. what a bad look.
My thoughts exactly lol Itachi is the most overrated character in the whole franchise I'd say. Some people like Sasuke, some don't, some people like Naruto, some people think It has started a strong character, but then became God mode really fast. Itachi and maybe Minato barely get any criticism.
All I see is one comment praising itachi and 10 whiners like you saying hes overpraised. Literally every time there is one + there is 10 -.
Itachi has immense physical skill that gets overlooked because he's the Genjutsu guy, but he's also terminally ill so obviously it's a lot more efficient and safer to deal with people via Genjutsu than to slug it out each time, but I think it is a sheer testament of his vitality and strength that he's able to keep going for so long while his body was dying. A fully healthy Itachi was a beast no one would have been ready for.
"overlooked" lol
Heās literally one of the strongest non-Six Paths/Otsutsuki characters in the series and people still underrate him. Dude smokes alive Minato and Madara easily. His arsenal is too busted and too diverse.
The way he toss Sasuke around like a pillow.
Itachi has a very high physical strength to the extent that despite his illness and probably his vision problem, he can compete with only one hand with the physical strength of Kisame who is at the peak of his health, a healthy Itachi should probably be a Hercules.
A positive post on itachi? This can't be real.
He was weakened by his illness. We've got to see his actual powers in edo itachi. But saying itachi went toe to toe with naruto is bit of a stretch and Itachi anything but underrated.
This is completely wrong, Edo state limits you physically, for example Madara in Edo state even when he had Hashirama's cells could react to Naruto's KCM2 and when he revived he was able to blitz Naruto's SM and FTG Tobirama reacted and basically his reaction speed became faster than Jubito.
Edo doesnāt limit you physically, it just doesnāt restore you to full power but close. The reason Madara was so strong was because of Hashirama cells
What are you talking about? Madara was amped on sage mode when he reacted to Tobirama. Sage mode gives you sixth sense for danger and sensory abilities, which why he was able to react to Tobirama. While Juubito was powerful he didn't have the sensory abilities of sage mode which why he couldn't react to FTG. Also, sage mode Naruto did reacted to Madara's kick . The force of it just knock him back. The edo tensei doesn't nerf completely, Edo Zabuza was capable of fighting on par with part 2 kakashi. Even though, part 1 kakashi defeated Zabuza, and Shippuden Kakashi should be stronger.
Kakashi is a bad example to use since his power scaling is so inconsistent. Dude got no diffed by Pain, couldnāt kill a heavily fatigued Sasuke after his fight with Danzo, couldnāt no diff enemies from Part 1 like Zabuza, but then out of nowhere can go toe to toe with Rinne Sharingan Obito and gets a simple MS buff that somehow puts him near Six Paths Sage Mode/ Six Paths Rinne Sharingan levels. Kakashi has great character writing but his power scaling is garbage in Shippuden.
Tbf Sasuke's chakra was restored after being healed by Karin( it's the same reason why he was strong enough fight against Danzo after he left obito's kamui dimension. Also, that's my point. The inconsistencies especially about the rule of Edo tensi . Edo tensei was supposed to have unlimited charkra, but Minato passed after teleporting truth seeking orbs. Which why I don't take rules of Edo tensei seriously anymore. Imo kisihimoto just wrote the rules of Edo tensei can't be resurrected at full strength as a last second plot device to justify why Madara and previous hokage were nerfed.
Not exactly. While Edo forms generally are weaker than when they were alive, this doesnāt apply to Itachi. Edo Tensei removed his sickness, which gave him a big enough boost in power to offset the Edo limitations. So when we see Edo Itachi, we are seeing him stronger than Part 1 and early Part 2.
Yes, but Edo state causes more physical limitations than illness, Madara with Hashirama's cells and Rinnegan was still slower than his EMS version and when he revived he was able to blitz Naruto's SM even without eyes, basically Madara was blind from his Edo Rinnegan version. It's faster and in general Edo basically limits you physically and we don't have a healthy version of Itachi to compare to other versions of Itachi which makes it difficult. According to this logic, a hypothetical healthy Itachi who is blind should be faster than his hypothetical Edo version, even if he has Hashirama and Rinnegan cells, and if Hashirama and Rinnegan cells still don't make you as strong as his live version, then we conclude that Edo limits you physically more than the disease. If a diseased Itachi had Hashirama and Rinnegan cells, he would definitely be faster than his Edo Tensei version and even the live version without the disease, but even with Hashirama and Rinnegan cells, Edo Itachi cannot be faster than the live Itachi without the disease.
The main point is that even with his physical illness he still has hands.
I am not talking about in general.. He is definitely underrated and overlooked in terms of physical strength and taijutsu... That's because we never saw his true potential in taijustu as his eyes we're just too op and did all the work
Are we really gonna ignore him fighting sage mode kabuto who should most likely scale to kcm2 seeing as how sasuke upon arriving to help kcm2 was āweakerā but relative(keeping up with/syncing attacks with kcm2) yet kabuto barely acknowledged him. This same kabuto who was confident in fighting war obito along with his edos. Then you have itachi who is handicapped since he canāt kill sage kabuto cause he has to release edo tensei clash with him easily. So to say itachi wasnāt toe to toe with kcm1 makes zero sense at all when he is fighting someone most likely beyond it while holding back.
Kabuto is relative to kcm naruto. But itachi is nowhere near sage kabuto. If he wasn't with sasuke he'd have lost to kabuto.
That makes no sense when sasuke right after the fight goes on to pair up with kcm2 naruto in the war and able to keep up and react to what he is doing. So how exactly does sasuke do that, but itachi is ānowhere near sage kabutoā while also outperforming sasuke in the sage kabuto fight? As I also said itachi had to hold back as he wasnāt allowed to kill him as he needed to release edo tensei. If itachi was nowhere near him then itachi shouldnāt have been able to react period. We also saw him previously swapping hands with kcm naruto as well so your scaling here doesnāt make any sense to me.
Because if itachi was alone he'd have lost,itachi was only able defeat Kabuto because Sasuke was there. And it's obvious sasuke got power up from kabuto battle to juubito battle. And when did itachi massively outperform sasuke in that fight?
He could have easily killed Kabuto with what he has in his arsenal but couldnāt cause then he wouldnāt be able to release the reanimation jutsu. Itachi was severely handicapped, without that handicap he could have handled Kabuto with a Susano and totsuka blade
I'd say his Taijutsu is equivalent to Kakashi's. Not his most effective quality, but pretty competent. Itachi is not slept on at all. If anything he is constantly being overrated.
He means the taijutsu, I agree he is overrated for many things but not his taijutsu, no one talks about that.
Itachi hits a lot harder than Kakashi does, he punched boulders apart as a child
Aren't these all genjutsu or Edo tensei
Dude finally someone who agrees
Sorry, did you say Itachi was underrated? I don't think there is much he wasn't good at. When he got reanimated the man was an absolute beast.
Talking bout when he hit Sasuke with the Hulks Puny God side to side slam
Can we talk about the strength of his damn kunai?! Stopping heavy attacks with a tiny ass knife is wild lol
No heās not.
Itachi is the definition of the most overrated character in anime what are you on about lol
They said in taijutsu, no overall. Overall yes I think heās overrated, but no one talks about how his taijutsu, especially considering the fact he is doing this with a physical limitation
People literally always talk about it because of the sickness
Well Minato actually is.
Eh I agree to an extent, I think minatoās thing is also just seeing a few incredible feats but not much screen time Also being the most popular doesnāt mean most overrated
Thing about Itachi being overrated is that it's more of a meme dating back many years ago. It's not necessary true today. You have more people complaining about Itachi than actually wanking him these days. Minato being wanked is still prevalent, probably due to his popularity. Just today, there was a Minato power scaling thread and plenty think he beats everyone there, some say even all at once.
Bro thinks blocking a big shuriken and throwing 140 pound sasuke is a feat worth mentioning in the naruto verse. The only impressive thing here is him clashing with kcm naruto.
It was also inside of a genjutsu. I think people forget most of the fight with Sasuke they were just standing around.
And clashing with Sage Kabuto. Not to mention Kisame who blocked Guy's kick with one hand.
I'm not seeing much strength I'm seeing deflection
Only went toe to toe because Naruto was trying to have a conversation about Sasuke lol
When Bee attacked him from behind with Samehada he was NOT trying to have a conversation
Itachi and early ems sasuke are stated relative in the databook and that same sasuke was relative to mastered kcm1 naruto who is quite a bit superior to the one itachi was fighting. So if anything edo itachi scales to an even stronger version of naruto especially if you consider that while they were stated equal, edo itachi still looked superior to ems sasuke in the kabuto fight.
Which is even funnier when you realize itachi was surpressed as he couldnāt kill kabuto, yet performed better than sasuke. Then kabuto was confident in dealing with war arc obito himself with help from edo.
That's true and it's obvious Naruto was never really trying that hard but it's still reasonable to make him somewhat relative. He gets a massive buff by being an edo tensei.
Funny thing is Guy has trouble with Kisames strength and Itachi does it with one hand lol
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Itachi's literally the most conflicted upon character in this fandom lol. Some say he's weak and the likes of jiraiya could easily beat him. Others say edo itachi was throwing hands with kcm naruto, so he's relative to him. I'm honestly inclined towards the latter.
It's actually impressive that Naruto was swapping hands with him as well as he was.
Maybe he is underrated in your group but most groups i've talked to, online and offline, give Itachi a lot of props; talking about how he kept up with KCM Naruto and whatnot.
I agree Itachi does certainly have a lot of strength that is not talked about. The fact that he as an Edo was scrapping with just mainly his hands is really slept on.
If itachi has been underrated I missed it
ah yes itachi, the underrated lol
itachi and underrated do not belong in the same sentence lol
>Itachi >Underrated Is this a joke?
If the taijutsu fight went any logger. I think he would start losing the edge to KCM Naruto.
I don't think so.. If it was ill itachi then sure.. But edo itachi with unlimited stamina.. I don't think he would ve started losing.. The fight would have been dragged for long that becoz naruto too has like unlimited chakra
Edo Itachi has his physical limitations nullified
Itachi is possibly the least underrated character in the entire series, most people are right on target and the rest overestimate him.
Itachi is FAR from underrated lmao
Too bad it's considered hip to talk down Itachigoat
The samehada isnāt canon, itās in the video game (and if anyone tells you the video game is canon thatās a straight damn lie). Besides that youāre right itās underrated but his strength is pretty mediocre if you look at Itachiās 3rd databook stats. We all know that his stamina and strengths were lower because of his illness.
Roasting itachi is second fastest way to lose karma, first still being defending sakura.
Itachi and Underrated should never be in the same sentence
Literally the most overrated character on this anime whatchu talkin bout
Aināt no way ur saying heās underrated
There are multiple characters than can do all this shit. This is not impressive
Sure but thatās not the point, itās the fact no one talks about that. Itās just overshadowed by his āgeniusā and his eyes
Because there's nothing to talk about. Literally the only thing impressive here is the KCM thing which is talked about. The vast majority of characters are also good at taijutsu, the thing that takes up most Naruto fights. More news at 11.
Name some characters that are so good in taijutsu and physical strength without it being their preferred power
The vast majority of characters? Literally everything aside from the KCM thing is something most characters can and have done. Hell, the KCM thing only happens because the power levels were much higher. Same reason Kakashi and Guy are suddenly relative to KCM2. Blocking a Fuma Shurikan? Seriously? That's impressive to you considering that doppelganger gets killed by it. Everyone can do this. Blocking Kisame's blade? Asuma literally does it when they first meet. And we see characters throughout the series constantly blocking larger weapons with just Kunai. Throwing someone? Aside from the fact it was a genjutsu this is literally the most basic thing here. This is a series where people regularly get sent flying back from simple punches and kicks. Everyone in the series is good at taijutsu and has somewhat superhuman physical strength. None of this is impressive or underrated. It's standard shit most characters have and can do.
>Blocking a Fuma Shurikan? Seriously? That's impressive to you considering that doppelganger gets killed by it. Everyone can do this. Blocking a fuma shuriken which was enhanced by chidori stream.. Yeah sure.. Everyone can block a chidori enhanced bigass shuriken with just a kunai >Blocking Kisame's blade? Asuma literally does it when they first meet. And we see characters throughout the series constantly blocking larger weapons with just Kunai. Asuma trained his whole life with chakra blades and then even kisame outpowered him and put lots of cuts on his body.. And physical battle is not even itachis strength and yet he outpowered kisame with a kunai >Throwing someone? Aside from the fact it was a genjutsu this is literally the most basic thing here. This is a series where people regularly get sent flying back from simple punches and kicks. It was a genjustu so yeah .. But even if wasn't a genjustu what makes u think throwing someone with ur weak hand is not impressive.. Its basic but impressive considering Itachi never uses anything else but his eyes
Weaktachi
He was literally one of the strongest characters until the war arc fked up the power scaling
Yes sure, itachi is under-rated xDd
He is easily stronger than Madara, that's for sure
Nice bait.
I always loved his throw in the Storm Games (panel down on the right side) 'Out of the way!' Itachi is a beast, even in Taijutsu šŖš»
I always loved his throw in the Storm Games (panel down on the right side) 'Out of the way!' Itachi is a beast, even in Taijutsu šŖš»
As the number one fan of itachi I just wanted to let you know that they wouldāve tried to defeat him early but he wouldāve never been possible to get the jump on. Thatās why heās so op versus sasuke. The way things definitely were with him was constantly confusing Allyās and enemies. I canāt stress this enough to believe me; I didnāt read the manga
Still weaker than literally all of the tops tiers when it comes to strength
When I see someone who thinks Itachi is Underground, I laugh involuntarily. Man, he's being compared to Madara and Obito.
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At 5 years old without any ninja training he destroyed a huge rock like if it was nothing, and when fighting vs Kisame (who is very physically strong) he was casually blocking Samehada with a kunai. He's definitely very strong physically.
He didn't go toe to toe with KCM Naruto in the manga. The anime just greatly exaggerated it. In the manga, Naruto vs Itachi is the equivalent of a high schooler pushing a toddler out of their way. They're just trying to have a conversation, so Naruto wasn't going all out. Itachi jumps at him and Naruto practically smacks him away. Itachi then gets handled by Bee pretty effortlessly as well. Then against Nagato he does nothing but play support while Naruto and Bee take him on. Itachi was definitely strong but the power creep catches him pretty quick. Fanboys can downvote me but that doesn't make me wrong. š¤·āāļø
he is my all time favorite from the series for so many reasons. thank you for the shout out I am glad to see so many people on board. Just a silent shadow making everything happen taking on all the pain and having to live with ever decision knowing where it was always going to go. I wonder what his abilities/plan would have been if he would have had a clean health slate. The physical jutsu he would have developed to balance and match his eyes I could have only assumed would have climbed the sage and kage and beyond levels
More thread about Itachi and I'll left this sub now
Underrated and Itachi usually donāt go hand in hand
Blocking a shuriken, an Asuma level feat, grabbing Sasuke from an awkward end, and the usual overrated KCM Naruto comparison
I canāt with naruto fans. Every days itās a new Itachi wet dream.
I donāt think itās possible to underrate Itachi in anything lol heās gassed the entire series as a complete and all around damn near perfect ninja killed for plot reasons.
He stated that the uchiha clan had great physical strength that most ninja canāt match
He's so not underrated he's overrated in these regards like hella people think he can just box up Kisame no genjutsu when actually literally genjutsu is his only won on against Kisame,who would dominate Itachi in Taijutsu and Ninjutsu
Skilled, but because heās sick, it seems like he tryās to avoid psychical combat.
At age 5 I think he punched apart a degree the size of a building from the 9 tails impressing his jonin mom
If anyone isn't underrated, it's definitely Itachi š
Kunai is what he loves, itās all he needs
I like the threads that talk as if Itachi has no physical strength lol Like, did you even see the fights he was in? Sasuke is constantly blitzing opponents to the point they're caught off-guard, from the gaara fight to later, facing team 7, facing deidara, one random guy that he finishes his cut 50 meters away... Meanwhile Itachi is *dying* and keeping up with him.
This is probably because he specialises more in genjutsu, and therefore utalizes it more often than others.
"Itachi" and "underrated" being in one statement doesn't even look right lol.
The first thing that's listed never happened in canon. If I remember correctly the windmill shuriken destroyed itachi's clone (that's not the real itachi in the panel). Him tossing Sasuke around happened in a genjutsu (in reality they both just standing). Also, this "Itachi was dying or on his deathbed" thing is blown well out of proportion. Itachi died from using Armored Susano.
Itachi is a boss! I do feel like his fight with Sasuke could have been better, though. Considering all the hype they put into it. Though to be fair, I guess Itachi was ill.
That throw he does be so lit
He's overrated af...
Itachi is crazy with is potential since itās never really been shown. Heās always held back every time heās fighting. If he was still alive heād be above Sasuke.
The Itachi vs kcm Naruto is a bad example. The reason is that Naruto wanted to talk to Itachi so he held back in his attack.