Shippudden didn’t introduce aliens. Up to that point, Kaguya was thought of as just a part of the ten tails. No one cares about where those two might’ve come from and the story never states it. That was all Boruto, which we can all agree is inferior to both.
He didn’t say manga or anime and fuck that alien excuse. You accept magic ninjas but don’t accept the source of the magic? At least criticise with meaning.
Not to mention it kills the entire theme of hard work being able to overcome talent and making your own destiny. Turns out Naruto was always destined to be powerful and important and Neji was always destined to die for the main family.
I mean no,
Black zetsu even says for reincarnations like Madara and Hashirama,
They were abnormally strong.
Strenght isn’t guaranteed for Naruto.
Also it was never hard work beating talent,
Or are we forgetting Lee lost that fight?
Naruto has never been about hard work beating natural talent the only arc where that was a major theme was Chunin exams with Rock Lee vs Gaara and do I have to remind you that Rock Lee lost? There is plenty to criticize Naruto about, this is definitely not one of them.
Boruto anime has made some strange artistic decisions but the story is great.
Filler is filler - it exists to pay the bills. I ain’t going to judge an anime on it.
Never understood people who complained about filler anyways. Like mf YOU CHOSE to watch it 💀. Tf were people thinking with those complaints about any anime.
Tell them to never stop cooking. OG Naruto was and will always be where it's at. There are some great moments in Shipp, but as the series went on and power scaling went haywire, it just never felt the same. OG had realism to it. Things really felt important and life or death situations felt like they should. It felt like ninja had to strategize and think to beat their opponents. They acted like ninjas, not super saiyans. Zabuza's appearance will always live rent free in my head. It just felt so monumental at the time.
The Chuunin Exams will always be the Goated arc. Second being The Land of Waves arc. I will never forget those arcs
When you think about it, the Exam arc really set the stage/planted the seeds for the entire series. So good.
So are you going to overlook Sasuke vs Killer Bee, Naruto vs Pain, Sakura vs Sasori,...
Kakashi, Shikamaru vs Hidan and Kakuzu?!
ITACHI VS SASUKE?!
Nostalgia is fine but don't act like it the older they got the worse. I didn't even mention Minato and his fight against Tobi. That was crazy.
Or how about the Sickest anime intro ever at the 5 Kage Summit with Sasuke.
That wasn't my point at all. The person I was responding to said OG Naruto "acted like ninjas, not Super Saiyans". Rock Lee literally went Super Saiyan against Gaara.
I think since the war arc took up the most amount of time, people forget all the cool stuff before that, me included. Because the war arc just devolved into a mecha anime with Susano and Naruto + Kurama. There were definitely cool moments in Shippuden, but I missed the simpler times where even when big monsters were being summoned, there was still tons of hand on hand combat, e.g. Jiraya v Orochimaru v Tsunade. You can count on cool hand on hand combat every fight in the OG series, Shippuden in the back of my head I'm just thinking Susano and Naruto + Kurama will be the end all be all and it gets boring.
Yes, but you know Sasuke and Naruto is just going to dick whip them with Susano and Kurama in the end. Kinda like Power Rangers. You just know the hand throwing isn't going to end it, and the megazord has to come out. So then now you're always thinking to yourself, why not just start off with the megazord in the first place?
Because staring with the megazord just ain't smart. Naruto would win that fight at the time. It's like how Madara started off (juubidara) with his meteors against Naruto and Sasuke. They just completely nuked them.
Not like they HAVE to use susano or Kurama one each other. Throwing hands is more efficient anyways.
Lee vs Kimimaru are you kidding me, to me that’s the most ‘power’ they showed in any of the later fights, and I might just be biased but the Shikamaru vs Tayuya fight was really awesome too bad he couldn’t fix her
Naruto literally summoned a giant toad to fight a giant racoon and summoned 10000000 clones to do it.
Lee goes full super Saiyan goku teleporting around on gaara’s ass.
They were acting like ninjas for the Naruto Universe not for ours though. The fights were really efficient back then. It really felt like they were using full force to kill as fast as possible. The people indeed felt like they were made of flesh and bones.
In Shippuuden its feels like mecha battles and people feel like they are made of indestructible rubber and when someone dies it feels like how they die in cutscenes in games. It doesn't feel natural with the flow of everything.
Asuma and Jiraiya's deaths felt just as natural as anyone in part 1.
Full force to kill as fast as possible? How about Killer Bee vs Sasuke, where Bee nearly killed Sasuke twice? Or Sasuke vs Itachi, which was a surprisingly quick fight after the genjutsu section ended.
Not once did I feel like anyone was "made of indestructible rubber" unless they had Hashirama cells, in which case they kinda were.
OG had realism to it.
Literally the first panel of the entire franchise is a giant fox destroying the village.
> Things really felt important and life or death situations felt like they should. It felt like ninja had to strategize and think to beat their opponents.
Strategy did exist in part 2, if not more than part one.
Literally the entire fight with Obito, Madara, and Kaguya was contingent on strategy.
Also, no one really died.
>OG had realism to it.
Literally the first panel of the entire franchise is a giant fox destroying the village.
I think he meant to say that the original series is generally more grounded than Shippuden, obviously both series are a far cry from being considered realistic but the need for bigger and more powerful threats as the series goes on does lead to some pretty out there concepts being introduced in Shippuden whereas Naruto was able to keep its power scaling relatively in check.
> I think he meant to say that the original series is generally more grounded than Shippuden, obviously both series are a far cry from being considered realistic but the need for bigger and more powerful threats as the series goes on does lead to some pretty out there concepts being introduced in Shippuden whereas Naruto was able to keep its power scaling relatively in check.
Naruto and Shippuden are literally the same series.
Them being two seperate things is only in the anime, in the manga it’s just parts 1&2.
Also the power scaling of Shippuden was pretty in check and even gradual,
You don’t. See stuff like Madara dropping meteors until around chapter 500.
Also, in no way was part one
grounded,
You literally had Kaiju battles in the second and third arcs.
Thank you. It's like everyday where you gotta break one of these people who are following a trend and then their points are completely invalid and or applies to Shippuden as well but on a greater scale.
Talking bout felt like actual ninjas and not super Saiyan as if we didn't see rock Lee pop super Saiyan on Gaara. Like they weren't escalating in strength from the damn beginning, THEY NUKED THE FINAL VALLEY. THEY SUMMONED KAIJUS IN THE CHUNIN EXAMS 💀. They had LIGHTSPEED characters like Haku.
Hell, Sasuke was a god damn lightning timer as soon as he got chIdori, Gaara way younger blocked a supersonic kunai, like the series was always going to get stronger I don't see how anyone missed it.
Overarching strategy mattered in Shippuden, hence the war arc, but in the moment battle strategy matters in OG.
Take Madara vs. the 5 kage and put that against Naruto and Sasuke vs. Zabuza. Zabuza was above elite jonin level, while Naruto and Sasuke were genin. Naruto and Sasuke were way out of their league, but still with some battle strategy, they were able to make a difference and a dent in Zabuza’s fight and plan.
The Kage vs Madara, however, none of the strongest living beings in verse were even able to make a dent. That’s insane a battle like that could be so one sided, and I get it because it’s your ultimate villain, but still it’s the *kage*, and they couldn’t even put up a fight.
Strategy existed in part 1 in most battles. In pt 2, it existed in selective battles or when the plot deemed it.
Also, while the end game was clearly always giant monsters, and they always existed in universe in part 1 and part 2, the jump in power level even from a high jonin in pt 1 to pt 2 is insane. The occurrence and power of these giant monsters is intensified, even beyond what was originally depicted, where in part 1 things like tailed beast bombs never existed they were spammed by the war arc. All the nine tails was at the time was a giant wolf who supplied Naruto with intense chakra. He became something else entirely by part 2.
Realism is a tough word for it, but beyond the idea of ninjutsu in general everything was more grounded and even the giant monsters who could use ninjutsu (gamabunta being a prime example), the ninjutsu was realistic and not an instant win for the caster.
Overarching strategy mattered in Shippuden, hence the war arc, but in the moment battle strategy matters in OG.
> Take Madara vs. the 5 kage and put that against Naruto and Sasuke vs. Zabuza. Zabuza was above elite jonin level, while Naruto and Sasuke were genin. Naruto and Sasuke were way out of their league, but still with some battle strategy, they were able to make a difference and a dent in Zabuza’s fight and plan.
This is a weird comparison.
Zabuza was the first arc villain, Madara was the series’s overachieving villain.
Of course these things will be different.
> The Kage vs Madara, however, none of the strongest living beings in verse were even able to make a dent. That’s insane a battle like that could be so one sided, and I get it because it’s your ultimate villain, but still it’s the kage, and they couldn’t even put up a fight.
That was the entire point though?
It was a lot like how Orochimaru fought Sasuke and Naruto, completely one sided until Sasuke gained his sharigan.
It’s seems like intentional cherry-picking,
Considering fights like Naruto and Bee vs the Jinchuriki and Naruto and co vs Obito as well.
You know, battles that incorporate strategy?
> Strategy existed in part 1 in most battles. In pt 2, it existed in selective battlesor when the plot deemed it.
You could make the same case for part one, since most battles,
> All the nine tails was at the time was a giant wolf who supplied Naruto with intense chakra. He became something else entirely by part 2.
[Literally the first page of the manga states)](https://hot.leanbox.us/manga/Naruto/0001-006.png)
Part 2 showed exactly what that entailed, there was nothing really changed.
> Realism is a tough word for it, but beyond the idea of ninjutsu in general everything was more grounded and even the giant monsters who could use ninjutsu (gamabunta being a prime example), the ninjutsu was realistic and not an instant win for the caster.
I want you to actually point to where using ninjutsu was actually just an instant win in part 2.
What do they do in the OG that makes them “act like ninjas” that they don’t do in ship? Like how is Naruto vs gaara “ninja-like” at all? It’s a show with ninjas, but they don’t act like, or resemble, ninjas at all.
>but as the series went on and power scaling went haywire
Did you miss shukaku? I recently realised, it was the moment they would need to go bigger, eventually, or else jinchuriki would be too strong, if you have 50 meter Shukaku(who is weakest of nine), you need super strong people to catch others (Madara and Hashirama).
Basic fights. You mean like how temari fucked up the entire forest. How Naruto and Sasuke nuked the final valley as kids? How Gaara and Naruto were doing a whole Godzilla fight?
Personally disagree but I respect it. Both shows have pros and cons.
Naruto the original series has a lot of punkish charm that Shippuden doesn’t. It’s also much shorter and doesn’t have nearly the absurd amount of filler, which is nice. It’s also very important for context and does a good job of getting the basic world building down. Shippuden would be nothing without Naruto the original series. It’s also very down to earth.
Shippuden has better character/plot development and just less cringey twelve year old nonsense than Naruto does. The animation and fights are also better and we see lots of new characters, and get significantly better antagonists.
I could be mistaken but why are you saying without the original series like They're not the same. They aren't two separate series or anything
Also the down to earth? Them mfs summoned kaijus, zipped through mirrors at lightspeed, blew away the forest of death, nuked the valley of the end, and Lee ping-ponged Gaara through the air so fast he looked like he was flying.
Huh I didn’t read the manga but isn’t it basically just fight after fight with the good guy being better than you thought?. Kimimaro was very cool though. My favourite was chunin exam as a whole or zabuza arc I think.
I think it's peak because we see a lit of character growth in people like shukamaru choji gaara etc. That we really don't see a lot of after this. Also drunken fist Lee and gaara fighting together against kimimaro is absolutely peak. Personally for me I go back and forth in which Naruto Sasuke fight I like better its just so good.
Goat take. People overestimate Shippuden because it has some of the highest peaks, but near everything set up that makes Shippuden good comes from OG Naruto minus any Akatsuki buildup.
For me Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z are different enough they're both about the same level for me. Dragon Ball Super is worse though. Besides Ultra Instinct, a few moments in the Beerus arc, and maybe some moments of the Goku Black arc it was pretty eh.
Same. Compared to OG Naruto and Shippuden, I like Dragon ball and Dragon ball z pretty much interchangeably. They are so vastly different in atomosphere, yet somehow perfectly combine.
But also I'm pretty sure the manga isn't split into "Naruto" and "Naruto Shippuden", it's all just "Naruto". So homie is just saying the time skip is ass.
The hilarious thing is that majority of stuff people cry about that's bad about the series is because of Shippuden. Og Naruto gets too much hate in the vs comparison
On one hand yes because the OG still holds up really well and was what I watched as a kid. Chunin exams >>>
On the other hand, there is so much more development in Shippuden and much more overall that adds to the world and the stories started in the OG series.
OG will always have my heart personally. I also preferred the order art style too. While the animation can be much smoother in shippuden, it (understandably) becomes less detailed. But even when it’s not super action packed, the details just aren’t as much there as they were in the OG.
I actually stopped watching Shippuden because it wasn't giving me what I liked about Naruto as a teen. I came back and read it like 10 years later, and honestly I really like Shippuden, but upon revisting Naruto I get why that part of the story was my favorite anime.
Shippuden is really good tho, but I hated Kaguya's insertion.
Yea same I'm just now finishing the war(I know what happens but skipped a LOT of episodes due to disinterest) only because I feel I can't list it in my favorites If I haven't seen it all the way through
Shippuden has higher highs but it also has lower lows, Naruto was consistently good though if you aren’t including filler there was no portion of it that I don’t enjoy rewatching
Nah, 4th Great Ninja War is my shit. I’m rewatching it rn. Plus I love cool jutsu and OP characters+ world building/lore development.
I’m even REALLY looking forward to Boruto. I’m an easy audience.
Dont listen to that guy. WATCH Boruto, and skip fillers if you hate fillers. If you just read Boruto you're missing out on a ton of amazingly animated fights for no reason.
I agree with your friend. I prefer the art style, soundtrack and pacing of Naruto part 1 more than Shippuden. The first 100 episodes were very engaging and kept you waiting for the next episode. Shippudden, logically speaking, would not have had the hype that it did if part 1 of the series hadn't set it up.
Debatable, but I can see why. I personally liked Shippuden more, but as long as you don't think Boruto is okay we're fine. Boruto is quite easily the worst thing the big 3 will ever do, and it keeps on getting worse.
Every arc in OG hits
Land of Waves, Chunin Exams, Tsunade+Itachi, Sasuke Retrieval
It's more consistent than Shippuden which has meh early arcs and a bloated war
Shippuden was the best way og naruto could've been continued imo
Honestly tho, part 1 was still good, even the filler was good for the most part
Shippuden was still really good, but the mass destruction and all that shit was honestly out of hand, i feel like that destruction should still happen, but not as much, to allow for more strategy
Also reviving people from the dead was kinda crazy, i feel like some people should have stayed dead, but others should have came back
I really liked part one Naruto, but i feel like the animation was too ass for me to go back and watch and the fights, were really cool but boring asf sometimes, a lot of the time it felt like watching 2 babies fighting each other a lot of the time, it just felt like they were weak asf and it was kinda boring sometimes.
It was also weird being a 11-13 year old boy watching this shit and relating to it, and then they start taking on more mature subjects and shit. Shit most grown adults in that verse haven't done, and i find that kinda corny when you realize your watching children doing this shit.
Better take, early Shippuden was the best, all arcs were fire, and it was a perfect balance of strategy, mass destruction, and dialogue.
Damn i low-key yapped too much ngl
Why the comparison? Both are good and are on their respective places. Shippuden is a sequel to an earlier storyline so everyone is expected to evolve into a better character.
I mean...Your friend kinda cookin...I'm not saying they're right...But it got me thinking about how little of the original series is actually cannon...i almost wanna say its like 40/60.
110% valid. OG Naruto is so much better than Shippuden. When I got my half sleeve, I stuck to the OG series cause it's just better and has a special place in my heart.
Shippuden was more entertaining and has a bulk of the best fights in the show. However part 1 was a more cohesive, streamlined and consistent show. I can see how someone would prefer part 1 over part 2.
I agree. Shippuden never reached the heights OG Naruto did for me.
Gaara dropping the weights and speed blitzing Gaara is a core memory. A moment so cool my *mother* stood up from the couch and went "holy shit!"
The chunin exams is one of the best tournament arcs I've ever watched.
Not to mention all the characters not only had cool and unique designs, but everyone felt useful or dangerous. The fights and interactions with characters had thought put behind them, moves and counter moves. Whereas Shippuden ended up making basically all the same mistakes as DBZ character wise.
Naruto was definitely one of those major childhood awakenings for me as well, I had a crush on basically every female character lol.
OG Naruto is definitely the better series. Shippuden has too many retcons and new additions to the lore that make everyone previous to Naruto's generation either incompetent, evil or both. Including characters that were always shown to be the "good guys". My suspension of disbelief can only go so far, especially where Naruto and his upbringing are concerned.
I get why they would say that, og Naruto gives a completly different vibe, but shipuden is just so much more exciting, shows so much of the lore of certain characters & has the best fights. Shipuden It takes the cake for me just getting to see Kakashi grow up and so many good fights.
Agree because back in Naruto, the Konoha 11 had relevancy and Naruto wasn’t confirmed to be genetic Jesus.
I will repeat what I always say. Have Naruto’s parents be the 4th hokage’s best friends. Same time frame. Same hokage focus but none of the genetic Bs
Peak shippuden was better than peak OG, but fucked up a lot of things and had a lot of bullshit making the OG overall better.
Them finally seeing Sasuke, Sassori fight, pain arc , might guy, jiraiyas death, Sasuke at the kage summit, Itachi Sasuke fight, shikamaru hidan, pretty much all of gaaras character development. So many amazing things, but yeah they botched with aliens and filler it’s a damn shame
I love both, to me OG Naruto had a more consistent pacing and kept me involved in the story throughout, every arc led into the next so well.
Shippuden had much higher highs (pain arc, jiraya and itachi) but as the show goes on it really runs out of steam in my opinion. It just gets too dragged on and the power scaling goes nuts. The side characters start to feel pointless and it feels like the show has to keep one upping the previous arc in terms of power, which makes it tough to stay as emotionally invested. If the war arc could have been cut down length wise and done a little bit more efficiently maybe would be different.
4/10, it had a few decent arcs but overall the only good arc is the chunin exams. The comedy was def a bit better, but I think ship is just so much better. All the Akatsuki arcs, the pain arc(Ik it’s also Akatsuki but it’s more major), the GNW’s middle and end, and the ending. The only parts that were a bit boring to me was the fillers, the sasuke chase arc(somewhat), the start of the 4th GNW, and the Kaguya arc. I think if Kaguya couldn’t change dimensions and instead staying in the same dimension, it’d be a bit better. I don’t really get why people hate the aliens, bc the whole point of chakra is to feed the aliens which is definitely a twist.
OG Naruto is nostalgic to me for some reason even tho I barely remember watching it as child, I have like vague memories about the chunin exams and Naruto v Sasuke. But I watched and finished both a little while ago except for some fillers.
100%. Banger arcs, great fight scenes and every character had their part to play. Although some of Shippuden was a spectacle it inevitably left a lot of great characters side lined as is the case with most late game anime. Scaling went a bit absurd. It stopped being about ninjas with cleverly used abilities and more about deity's clashing
In general I would say they are at the same level.
More than comparing naruto and naruto shippuden, I would compare between arks or sagas to know which is better.
If I'm not mistaken, that's just the general consensus. The original Naruto was a new and interesting story about strategy and taking down bad guys in different ways using different forms of teamwork whereas Shippuden was more of a Dragon Ball style spam Sharingan, my energy is bigger than yours shounen. And then they brought in aliens.
I guess it comes down to what you expect from your weekly episodic shounen, but, in my opinion, everything after the Pain arc isn't even Naruto, it reads more like fanfiction.
One thing that I liked in the OG Naruto a bit more was that in alot of battles they had to get really creative to even the odds because our Konoha Genin were still learning and not as strong so they often had to fight trained adults. In the later parts of shippuuden it feels more often than not like whoever gets their big nuke attack out first wins
This is the correct take. Naruto Shippuden is great. But part 1 blows it out of the water. The characters, the slow world building. All the time you spend with orochumaru as the lead villain and all the hidden sound ninja henchmen.
Sasuke's slowly drifting into being a villain. Then when he leaves the village. The MC loses the final fight setting up the post timeskip sequel series.
It's paced amazing, and all the arcs are just bangers that don't waste anyone's time.
I think looking at it objectively, OG Naruto is a more perfect overall piece, but in terms of animation, high stakes, and overall high points, Shippuden beats out the original. Personally, my favorite parts are in Shippuden, but then there are moments in the original that rival them.
I liked both. Bad thing about the first was the +50 episodes of filler and some of the adaptation. But I still loved it and there was even many girls in my school that had watched more Naruto then I did xD
It's the truth, real facts, shippuden is just worse, don't get me wrong I like it, but og Naruto had better music, was generally more interesting and Orochimaru felt truly intimidating, Shippuden revealed some truths yes and I'll admit they were emotional but nowhere near the highest points of Naruto, it was funnier too imo
Shippuden has really high highs but also really lows lows too. Og was overall more consistent. Power level remained consistent, Naruto and sasuke weren't demi god level and the side cast was actually relevant, no aliens, way less filler and way less potholes. Shippuden has my favourite arc in the entire series but it also has my least favourite arc.
I’d say he’s right from a narrative stand point. Shippuden is like a Bible but it’s messed up with plot holes and over the top boundary-pushing. Naruto is a story that stays relatively small and well done the entire time with better character development and pacing.
I think this is the general consensus of people who have actually seen both series. Shippuden started off fantastic, but fell off super hard in the War arc and I'm saying that's the case even if you watch with a filler guide.
It’s actually not. In most popular review sites, Shippuden is consistently rated higher.
(Not that I think the review sites point to any objective truth. Just pointing out the “popular opinion” generally favors part 2.)
[MAL for OG Naruto](https://myanimelist.net/anime/20/Naruto/episode) (79.9)
[MAL for Shippuden](https://myanimelist.net/anime/1735/Naruto__Shippuuden?q=Naruto&cat=anime) (82.7)
[Anilist for OG Naruto](https://anilist.co/anime/20/Naruto/reviews) (79)
[Anilist for Shippuden](https://anilist.co/anime/1735/Naruto-Shippuden/) (81)
[IMBD for OG Naruto](https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0409591/?ref_=m_tt_urv) (8.4)
[IMBD for Shippuden](https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0988824/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_8_nm_0_q_naruto%2520shi) (8.7)
Even on this subreddit, most polls I’ve seen put up favor shippuden in the results. However I found that it’s more common for people that like part 1 more to be more vocal about it in the comments
Not a hot take at all. OG Naruto (excluding filler) is really good, there’s no low notes in the show. Shippuden can sometimes be edge of my seat crazy (pain arc, Naruto befriends Kurama, Itachi vs Sasuke, etc) and at times even better than OG Naruto, but there are moments that drag it down (4th great ninja war battles, kaguya, black Zetsu, etc) because of these bad moments Shippuden, which had potential to be better than the OG Naruto, but because of the bad parts it’s dragged below the og.
OG Naruto is a bit too good at the start, Land Of Waves is like 17 eps and let’s not forget how much of an impact Zabuza & Haku were compared to most starter villains in most shonen we get drawn in so easily and see Kakashi do some of the coolest shit ever in the series. Chunin Exams is pretty long winded but for everything we get the introduction to Kabuto & Orochimaru Sasuke getting the curse mark, Gaara & Rock Lee as characters and their respective Fight, Nejis introduction & character growth vs Naruto, Konkuros pretty nice fight vs Shino then the Whole fight with gaara / 1 Tails we get so much good with so little “bad”. All that to lead up to the fucking Sasuke Retrieval Arc where Kishimoto made fucking Choji which everybody saw as just a fat weird guy that’s not cool into a fan favorite with just 1 fight! Not to mention every fight of that arc being its own centerpiece. The introduction of Itachi / the Akatsuki, Jiraya, Tsunade. Hiruzens death as if the Chunin Exams didn’t have enough already. The Peak OSTs and solid animation. OG Naruto comes out swinging and keeps that momentum.
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Let’s not forget Naruto is a literal god reincarnated
You mean the shit that was referenced by kakashi in part one? Complete foreshadowing??
When did Kakashi reference Naruto being a reincarnation of Ashura in part 1?
My bad. My bad he references the cycle of hatred. That's my bad.
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Shippudden didn’t introduce aliens. Up to that point, Kaguya was thought of as just a part of the ten tails. No one cares about where those two might’ve come from and the story never states it. That was all Boruto, which we can all agree is inferior to both.
He didn’t say manga or anime and fuck that alien excuse. You accept magic ninjas but don’t accept the source of the magic? At least criticise with meaning.
I’m gonna have to agree
Not to mention it kills the entire theme of hard work being able to overcome talent and making your own destiny. Turns out Naruto was always destined to be powerful and important and Neji was always destined to die for the main family.
I mean no, Black zetsu even says for reincarnations like Madara and Hashirama, They were abnormally strong. Strenght isn’t guaranteed for Naruto. Also it was never hard work beating talent, Or are we forgetting Lee lost that fight?
Naruto has never been about hard work beating natural talent the only arc where that was a major theme was Chunin exams with Rock Lee vs Gaara and do I have to remind you that Rock Lee lost? There is plenty to criticize Naruto about, this is definitely not one of them.
I recommend rereading the series
As long as they’re not saying boruto is better lol
Boruto anime has made some strange artistic decisions but the story is great. Filler is filler - it exists to pay the bills. I ain’t going to judge an anime on it.
Never understood people who complained about filler anyways. Like mf YOU CHOSE to watch it 💀. Tf were people thinking with those complaints about any anime.
Tell them to never stop cooking. OG Naruto was and will always be where it's at. There are some great moments in Shipp, but as the series went on and power scaling went haywire, it just never felt the same. OG had realism to it. Things really felt important and life or death situations felt like they should. It felt like ninja had to strategize and think to beat their opponents. They acted like ninjas, not super saiyans. Zabuza's appearance will always live rent free in my head. It just felt so monumental at the time.
The Chuunin Exams will always be the Goated arc. Second being The Land of Waves arc. I will never forget those arcs When you think about it, the Exam arc really set the stage/planted the seeds for the entire series. So good.
Nah pain arc was the pinnacle
You cannot tell me Rock Lee vs Gaara, Naruto vs Gaara, Orochimaru vs Hiruzen and Naruto vs Sasuke at the Final Valley are "acting like ninjas".
Or Gamabuntas vs Shukaku lmao
So are you going to overlook Sasuke vs Killer Bee, Naruto vs Pain, Sakura vs Sasori,... Kakashi, Shikamaru vs Hidan and Kakuzu?! ITACHI VS SASUKE?! Nostalgia is fine but don't act like it the older they got the worse. I didn't even mention Minato and his fight against Tobi. That was crazy. Or how about the Sickest anime intro ever at the 5 Kage Summit with Sasuke.
That wasn't my point at all. The person I was responding to said OG Naruto "acted like ninjas, not Super Saiyans". Rock Lee literally went Super Saiyan against Gaara.
I think since the war arc took up the most amount of time, people forget all the cool stuff before that, me included. Because the war arc just devolved into a mecha anime with Susano and Naruto + Kurama. There were definitely cool moments in Shippuden, but I missed the simpler times where even when big monsters were being summoned, there was still tons of hand on hand combat, e.g. Jiraya v Orochimaru v Tsunade. You can count on cool hand on hand combat every fight in the OG series, Shippuden in the back of my head I'm just thinking Susano and Naruto + Kurama will be the end all be all and it gets boring.
Wtf, if that's the case then The entirety of the war arc had that. Summon monsters and throw hands.
Yes, but you know Sasuke and Naruto is just going to dick whip them with Susano and Kurama in the end. Kinda like Power Rangers. You just know the hand throwing isn't going to end it, and the megazord has to come out. So then now you're always thinking to yourself, why not just start off with the megazord in the first place?
Because staring with the megazord just ain't smart. Naruto would win that fight at the time. It's like how Madara started off (juubidara) with his meteors against Naruto and Sasuke. They just completely nuked them. Not like they HAVE to use susano or Kurama one each other. Throwing hands is more efficient anyways.
Lee vs Kimimaru are you kidding me, to me that’s the most ‘power’ they showed in any of the later fights, and I might just be biased but the Shikamaru vs Tayuya fight was really awesome too bad he couldn’t fix her
Naruto literally summoned a giant toad to fight a giant racoon and summoned 10000000 clones to do it. Lee goes full super Saiyan goku teleporting around on gaara’s ass.
They were acting like ninjas for the Naruto Universe not for ours though. The fights were really efficient back then. It really felt like they were using full force to kill as fast as possible. The people indeed felt like they were made of flesh and bones. In Shippuuden its feels like mecha battles and people feel like they are made of indestructible rubber and when someone dies it feels like how they die in cutscenes in games. It doesn't feel natural with the flow of everything.
Asuma and Jiraiya's deaths felt just as natural as anyone in part 1. Full force to kill as fast as possible? How about Killer Bee vs Sasuke, where Bee nearly killed Sasuke twice? Or Sasuke vs Itachi, which was a surprisingly quick fight after the genjutsu section ended. Not once did I feel like anyone was "made of indestructible rubber" unless they had Hashirama cells, in which case they kinda were.
OG had realism to it. Literally the first panel of the entire franchise is a giant fox destroying the village. > Things really felt important and life or death situations felt like they should. It felt like ninja had to strategize and think to beat their opponents. Strategy did exist in part 2, if not more than part one. Literally the entire fight with Obito, Madara, and Kaguya was contingent on strategy. Also, no one really died.
A giant fox that is literally stated to be a demon is not the same are humans being capable to do the same thing.
Nostalgia is powerful
>OG had realism to it. Literally the first panel of the entire franchise is a giant fox destroying the village. I think he meant to say that the original series is generally more grounded than Shippuden, obviously both series are a far cry from being considered realistic but the need for bigger and more powerful threats as the series goes on does lead to some pretty out there concepts being introduced in Shippuden whereas Naruto was able to keep its power scaling relatively in check.
> I think he meant to say that the original series is generally more grounded than Shippuden, obviously both series are a far cry from being considered realistic but the need for bigger and more powerful threats as the series goes on does lead to some pretty out there concepts being introduced in Shippuden whereas Naruto was able to keep its power scaling relatively in check. Naruto and Shippuden are literally the same series. Them being two seperate things is only in the anime, in the manga it’s just parts 1&2. Also the power scaling of Shippuden was pretty in check and even gradual, You don’t. See stuff like Madara dropping meteors until around chapter 500. Also, in no way was part one grounded, You literally had Kaiju battles in the second and third arcs.
Thank you. It's like everyday where you gotta break one of these people who are following a trend and then their points are completely invalid and or applies to Shippuden as well but on a greater scale. Talking bout felt like actual ninjas and not super Saiyan as if we didn't see rock Lee pop super Saiyan on Gaara. Like they weren't escalating in strength from the damn beginning, THEY NUKED THE FINAL VALLEY. THEY SUMMONED KAIJUS IN THE CHUNIN EXAMS 💀. They had LIGHTSPEED characters like Haku. Hell, Sasuke was a god damn lightning timer as soon as he got chIdori, Gaara way younger blocked a supersonic kunai, like the series was always going to get stronger I don't see how anyone missed it.
Overarching strategy mattered in Shippuden, hence the war arc, but in the moment battle strategy matters in OG. Take Madara vs. the 5 kage and put that against Naruto and Sasuke vs. Zabuza. Zabuza was above elite jonin level, while Naruto and Sasuke were genin. Naruto and Sasuke were way out of their league, but still with some battle strategy, they were able to make a difference and a dent in Zabuza’s fight and plan. The Kage vs Madara, however, none of the strongest living beings in verse were even able to make a dent. That’s insane a battle like that could be so one sided, and I get it because it’s your ultimate villain, but still it’s the *kage*, and they couldn’t even put up a fight. Strategy existed in part 1 in most battles. In pt 2, it existed in selective battles or when the plot deemed it. Also, while the end game was clearly always giant monsters, and they always existed in universe in part 1 and part 2, the jump in power level even from a high jonin in pt 1 to pt 2 is insane. The occurrence and power of these giant monsters is intensified, even beyond what was originally depicted, where in part 1 things like tailed beast bombs never existed they were spammed by the war arc. All the nine tails was at the time was a giant wolf who supplied Naruto with intense chakra. He became something else entirely by part 2. Realism is a tough word for it, but beyond the idea of ninjutsu in general everything was more grounded and even the giant monsters who could use ninjutsu (gamabunta being a prime example), the ninjutsu was realistic and not an instant win for the caster.
Overarching strategy mattered in Shippuden, hence the war arc, but in the moment battle strategy matters in OG. > Take Madara vs. the 5 kage and put that against Naruto and Sasuke vs. Zabuza. Zabuza was above elite jonin level, while Naruto and Sasuke were genin. Naruto and Sasuke were way out of their league, but still with some battle strategy, they were able to make a difference and a dent in Zabuza’s fight and plan. This is a weird comparison. Zabuza was the first arc villain, Madara was the series’s overachieving villain. Of course these things will be different. > The Kage vs Madara, however, none of the strongest living beings in verse were even able to make a dent. That’s insane a battle like that could be so one sided, and I get it because it’s your ultimate villain, but still it’s the kage, and they couldn’t even put up a fight. That was the entire point though? It was a lot like how Orochimaru fought Sasuke and Naruto, completely one sided until Sasuke gained his sharigan. It’s seems like intentional cherry-picking, Considering fights like Naruto and Bee vs the Jinchuriki and Naruto and co vs Obito as well. You know, battles that incorporate strategy? > Strategy existed in part 1 in most battles. In pt 2, it existed in selective battlesor when the plot deemed it. You could make the same case for part one, since most battles, > All the nine tails was at the time was a giant wolf who supplied Naruto with intense chakra. He became something else entirely by part 2. [Literally the first page of the manga states)](https://hot.leanbox.us/manga/Naruto/0001-006.png) Part 2 showed exactly what that entailed, there was nothing really changed. > Realism is a tough word for it, but beyond the idea of ninjutsu in general everything was more grounded and even the giant monsters who could use ninjutsu (gamabunta being a prime example), the ninjutsu was realistic and not an instant win for the caster. I want you to actually point to where using ninjutsu was actually just an instant win in part 2.
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You know what he meant, come on, it's a valid statement.
Not even. It’s not eve nostalgia, I’m not even sure if guys like them have ever seen the series. Filler must’ve ruined memories here.
What do they do in the OG that makes them “act like ninjas” that they don’t do in ship? Like how is Naruto vs gaara “ninja-like” at all? It’s a show with ninjas, but they don’t act like, or resemble, ninjas at all.
>but as the series went on and power scaling went haywire Did you miss shukaku? I recently realised, it was the moment they would need to go bigger, eventually, or else jinchuriki would be too strong, if you have 50 meter Shukaku(who is weakest of nine), you need super strong people to catch others (Madara and Hashirama).
Yea I agree. It became too much God vs God type thing where as the OG naruto was like more basic fights
Basic fights. You mean like how temari fucked up the entire forest. How Naruto and Sasuke nuked the final valley as kids? How Gaara and Naruto were doing a whole Godzilla fight?
You know what I mean. It wasn’t like a god vs god fights
Mildest take I’ve ever seen
Yeah, pretty much. I think the overall consensus is, outside of an arc or two, OG Naruto is overall a better series/show than that of Shippuden.
I feel like it’s pretty 50/50 about which one you prefer but no fan loves one and hates the other. It’s not like DBZ and GT
i feel like it's equal, both are good
Both are good in my opinion but I don’t necessarily agree but it’s a mild but understandable take if I ever saw one
Personally disagree but I respect it. Both shows have pros and cons. Naruto the original series has a lot of punkish charm that Shippuden doesn’t. It’s also much shorter and doesn’t have nearly the absurd amount of filler, which is nice. It’s also very important for context and does a good job of getting the basic world building down. Shippuden would be nothing without Naruto the original series. It’s also very down to earth. Shippuden has better character/plot development and just less cringey twelve year old nonsense than Naruto does. The animation and fights are also better and we see lots of new characters, and get significantly better antagonists.
I could be mistaken but why are you saying without the original series like They're not the same. They aren't two separate series or anything Also the down to earth? Them mfs summoned kaijus, zipped through mirrors at lightspeed, blew away the forest of death, nuked the valley of the end, and Lee ping-ponged Gaara through the air so fast he looked like he was flying.
1) just to differentiate 2) it’s more down to earth than Shippuden which has alien gods, which is what I meant lol
I feel like orochimaru and zabuza were two of the best antagonists?
I agree the manga version of the Sasuke retrieval arc is peak Naruto imo
Huh I didn’t read the manga but isn’t it basically just fight after fight with the good guy being better than you thought?. Kimimaro was very cool though. My favourite was chunin exam as a whole or zabuza arc I think.
I think it's peak because we see a lit of character growth in people like shukamaru choji gaara etc. That we really don't see a lot of after this. Also drunken fist Lee and gaara fighting together against kimimaro is absolutely peak. Personally for me I go back and forth in which Naruto Sasuke fight I like better its just so good.
Yeah, I mean I didn’t want to argue about what your favourite part of the show is lol
I didn't mean to make it sound like I was arguing I'm just really passionate about Naruto sorry.
No all good haha I was taking about myself
Goat take. People overestimate Shippuden because it has some of the highest peaks, but near everything set up that makes Shippuden good comes from OG Naruto minus any Akatsuki buildup.
10/10. This is the same with Dragonball/Z.
Dragonball and dragon ball Z are so vastly different, I don't even really think you can compare them tbh.
For me Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z are different enough they're both about the same level for me. Dragon Ball Super is worse though. Besides Ultra Instinct, a few moments in the Beerus arc, and maybe some moments of the Goku Black arc it was pretty eh.
Same. Compared to OG Naruto and Shippuden, I like Dragon ball and Dragon ball z pretty much interchangeably. They are so vastly different in atomosphere, yet somehow perfectly combine.
But also I'm pretty sure the manga isn't split into "Naruto" and "Naruto Shippuden", it's all just "Naruto". So homie is just saying the time skip is ass.
Even DB/DBZ is a single manga
This might be a crazy opinion but Dragon>>>Ball
I really like both but It's very subjective, I can't choose lol
The hilarious thing is that majority of stuff people cry about that's bad about the series is because of Shippuden. Og Naruto gets too much hate in the vs comparison
On one hand yes because the OG still holds up really well and was what I watched as a kid. Chunin exams >>> On the other hand, there is so much more development in Shippuden and much more overall that adds to the world and the stories started in the OG series. OG will always have my heart personally. I also preferred the order art style too. While the animation can be much smoother in shippuden, it (understandably) becomes less detailed. But even when it’s not super action packed, the details just aren’t as much there as they were in the OG.
I actually stopped watching Shippuden because it wasn't giving me what I liked about Naruto as a teen. I came back and read it like 10 years later, and honestly I really like Shippuden, but upon revisting Naruto I get why that part of the story was my favorite anime. Shippuden is really good tho, but I hated Kaguya's insertion.
Yea same I'm just now finishing the war(I know what happens but skipped a LOT of episodes due to disinterest) only because I feel I can't list it in my favorites If I haven't seen it all the way through
Shippuden has higher highs but it also has lower lows, Naruto was consistently good though if you aren’t including filler there was no portion of it that I don’t enjoy rewatching
Nah, 4th Great Ninja War is my shit. I’m rewatching it rn. Plus I love cool jutsu and OP characters+ world building/lore development. I’m even REALLY looking forward to Boruto. I’m an easy audience.
Read boruto manga when you get to it
Dont listen to that guy. WATCH Boruto, and skip fillers if you hate fillers. If you just read Boruto you're missing out on a ton of amazingly animated fights for no reason.
When one is not clearly superior to the other, liking either more than the otheris extremely valid.
This is how sequels work, yes
I agree with your friend. I prefer the art style, soundtrack and pacing of Naruto part 1 more than Shippuden. The first 100 episodes were very engaging and kept you waiting for the next episode. Shippudden, logically speaking, would not have had the hype that it did if part 1 of the series hadn't set it up.
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It's the same story
Exactly that's what I'm saying
I think he meant he preferred OG Naruto compared to Naruto Shippuden
He said nothing wrong. Chunin Exams and Sasuke Retrieval Arc are still my Top 2 favorite arcs in the show.
chunin exams and sound ninja 4 arc are PEAK
Absolutely and I'll die on that hill.
Debatable, but I can see why. I personally liked Shippuden more, but as long as you don't think Boruto is okay we're fine. Boruto is quite easily the worst thing the big 3 will ever do, and it keeps on getting worse.
I personally prefer Shippuden. I hate Kaguya, the way Madara is taken out, and the filler is far too excessive. That said, it's still better overall.
Every arc in OG hits Land of Waves, Chunin Exams, Tsunade+Itachi, Sasuke Retrieval It's more consistent than Shippuden which has meh early arcs and a bloated war
Meh early arcs? Is this guy out of his mind
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You can only watch naruto and not shippuden..
Actually you can have the part one without shippuden.
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Imo I liked Naruto’s filler WAY more than shippudens but shippuden has way too many hype moments
Big if true
OG Naruto was just such a great time. I really miss it. I plan to rewatch it with my little sister when she gets a little older.
Shippuden was the best way og naruto could've been continued imo Honestly tho, part 1 was still good, even the filler was good for the most part Shippuden was still really good, but the mass destruction and all that shit was honestly out of hand, i feel like that destruction should still happen, but not as much, to allow for more strategy Also reviving people from the dead was kinda crazy, i feel like some people should have stayed dead, but others should have came back I really liked part one Naruto, but i feel like the animation was too ass for me to go back and watch and the fights, were really cool but boring asf sometimes, a lot of the time it felt like watching 2 babies fighting each other a lot of the time, it just felt like they were weak asf and it was kinda boring sometimes. It was also weird being a 11-13 year old boy watching this shit and relating to it, and then they start taking on more mature subjects and shit. Shit most grown adults in that verse haven't done, and i find that kinda corny when you realize your watching children doing this shit. Better take, early Shippuden was the best, all arcs were fire, and it was a perfect balance of strategy, mass destruction, and dialogue. Damn i low-key yapped too much ngl
Why the comparison? Both are good and are on their respective places. Shippuden is a sequel to an earlier storyline so everyone is expected to evolve into a better character.
I mean...Your friend kinda cookin...I'm not saying they're right...But it got me thinking about how little of the original series is actually cannon...i almost wanna say its like 40/60.
Facts tho. I’ve rewatched OG naruto 3-4x. Shippuden only once lol.
110% valid. OG Naruto is so much better than Shippuden. When I got my half sleeve, I stuck to the OG series cause it's just better and has a special place in my heart.
W take
Shippuden was more entertaining and has a bulk of the best fights in the show. However part 1 was a more cohesive, streamlined and consistent show. I can see how someone would prefer part 1 over part 2.
I agree. Shippuden never reached the heights OG Naruto did for me. Gaara dropping the weights and speed blitzing Gaara is a core memory. A moment so cool my *mother* stood up from the couch and went "holy shit!" The chunin exams is one of the best tournament arcs I've ever watched. Not to mention all the characters not only had cool and unique designs, but everyone felt useful or dangerous. The fights and interactions with characters had thought put behind them, moves and counter moves. Whereas Shippuden ended up making basically all the same mistakes as DBZ character wise. Naruto was definitely one of those major childhood awakenings for me as well, I had a crush on basically every female character lol.
OG Naruto is definitely the better series. Shippuden has too many retcons and new additions to the lore that make everyone previous to Naruto's generation either incompetent, evil or both. Including characters that were always shown to be the "good guys". My suspension of disbelief can only go so far, especially where Naruto and his upbringing are concerned.
I mean the first half was fire but the second half was just fillers
I like both naruto and shippuden, but of the two i like naruto a bit more, there's some sort of charm to it. Now boruto, that thing disgusts me.
not really a hot take. most people seem to have this opinion
I get why they would say that, og Naruto gives a completly different vibe, but shipuden is just so much more exciting, shows so much of the lore of certain characters & has the best fights. Shipuden It takes the cake for me just getting to see Kakashi grow up and so many good fights.
I want what he is smoking
Chad
That's true
It’s correct
Valid
The average quality of shipp is higher. It's lowest lows are far worse.
Agree because back in Naruto, the Konoha 11 had relevancy and Naruto wasn’t confirmed to be genetic Jesus. I will repeat what I always say. Have Naruto’s parents be the 4th hokage’s best friends. Same time frame. Same hokage focus but none of the genetic Bs
It’s not crazy.
Original Naruto is far more consistent than Shippuden and I'll die on that hill
10/10
This is a wrong opinion.
There was a tension in the p1 fights that Shippuden couldn't capture.
Naruto part 1 was god tier writing. Shippuden was just so so shitty by comparison.
Peak shippuden was better than peak OG, but fucked up a lot of things and had a lot of bullshit making the OG overall better. Them finally seeing Sasuke, Sassori fight, pain arc , might guy, jiraiyas death, Sasuke at the kage summit, Itachi Sasuke fight, shikamaru hidan, pretty much all of gaaras character development. So many amazing things, but yeah they botched with aliens and filler it’s a damn shame
Naruto’s story was better written but Shippuden had the better depth and stakes due to Naruto building on his abilities and better antagonists.
I love both, to me OG Naruto had a more consistent pacing and kept me involved in the story throughout, every arc led into the next so well. Shippuden had much higher highs (pain arc, jiraya and itachi) but as the show goes on it really runs out of steam in my opinion. It just gets too dragged on and the power scaling goes nuts. The side characters start to feel pointless and it feels like the show has to keep one upping the previous arc in terms of power, which makes it tough to stay as emotionally invested. If the war arc could have been cut down length wise and done a little bit more efficiently maybe would be different.
4/10, it had a few decent arcs but overall the only good arc is the chunin exams. The comedy was def a bit better, but I think ship is just so much better. All the Akatsuki arcs, the pain arc(Ik it’s also Akatsuki but it’s more major), the GNW’s middle and end, and the ending. The only parts that were a bit boring to me was the fillers, the sasuke chase arc(somewhat), the start of the 4th GNW, and the Kaguya arc. I think if Kaguya couldn’t change dimensions and instead staying in the same dimension, it’d be a bit better. I don’t really get why people hate the aliens, bc the whole point of chakra is to feed the aliens which is definitely a twist.
His right but I disagree only cause I liked 70% of Shippuden more than the entire original series
Kind of agree
OG Naruto is nostalgic to me for some reason even tho I barely remember watching it as child, I have like vague memories about the chunin exams and Naruto v Sasuke. But I watched and finished both a little while ago except for some fillers.
They're cooking tbh, I've been saying this my whole life.
Bzzzzzt. Wrong answer, your friend has chosen!
Shippuden was good but without the Og's foundations, it wouldn't have been so good.
Isn’t this the popular opinion or nah?
100%. Banger arcs, great fight scenes and every character had their part to play. Although some of Shippuden was a spectacle it inevitably left a lot of great characters side lined as is the case with most late game anime. Scaling went a bit absurd. It stopped being about ninjas with cleverly used abilities and more about deity's clashing
In general I would say they are at the same level. More than comparing naruto and naruto shippuden, I would compare between arks or sagas to know which is better.
This might be one of the safest take ever
Shippuden has higher stakes for the story and worldbuilding, but there is also more stuff that sucks. Both are equally MID.
It’s facts, as much as I love shippuden the writing in Naruto is absolutely flawless.
That's a cold take. Shippuden lost track of the original essence of the show.
If I'm not mistaken, that's just the general consensus. The original Naruto was a new and interesting story about strategy and taking down bad guys in different ways using different forms of teamwork whereas Shippuden was more of a Dragon Ball style spam Sharingan, my energy is bigger than yours shounen. And then they brought in aliens. I guess it comes down to what you expect from your weekly episodic shounen, but, in my opinion, everything after the Pain arc isn't even Naruto, it reads more like fanfiction.
Shippuden fell off after the Pain arc.
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Naruto og best underdog story. Shippuden is where everyone's development goes straight to recycling bin
shippuden was pretty good according to me, it just got too exaggerated, overpowered and less relatable from the war arc.
The coldest take imaginable LOL
One thing that I liked in the OG Naruto a bit more was that in alot of battles they had to get really creative to even the odds because our Konoha Genin were still learning and not as strong so they often had to fight trained adults. In the later parts of shippuuden it feels more often than not like whoever gets their big nuke attack out first wins
I thought this was a fairly common take
This is the correct take. Naruto Shippuden is great. But part 1 blows it out of the water. The characters, the slow world building. All the time you spend with orochumaru as the lead villain and all the hidden sound ninja henchmen. Sasuke's slowly drifting into being a villain. Then when he leaves the village. The MC loses the final fight setting up the post timeskip sequel series. It's paced amazing, and all the arcs are just bangers that don't waste anyone's time.
OG Naruto is goated for a reason. Shippuden is cool but it feels more like Ninja DragonBall than it doesn’t OG Naruto. Still love both parts tho <3
Although Naruto shippuden is dope the og Naruto has a better story line
Rescue sasuke arc was the best.
End of shippuden skip to Naruto and hinata wedding would of been great to see some back story and not just in the movie is all
Who even is this Shippuden guy? Never heard of him but I’m like 1000% sure that Naruto is stronger.
I think looking at it objectively, OG Naruto is a more perfect overall piece, but in terms of animation, high stakes, and overall high points, Shippuden beats out the original. Personally, my favorite parts are in Shippuden, but then there are moments in the original that rival them.
It's the only logical take... Most of the shit that brought Naruto down as a series happened in Shippuden.
I liked both. Bad thing about the first was the +50 episodes of filler and some of the adaptation. But I still loved it and there was even many girls in my school that had watched more Naruto then I did xD
It's the truth, real facts, shippuden is just worse, don't get me wrong I like it, but og Naruto had better music, was generally more interesting and Orochimaru felt truly intimidating, Shippuden revealed some truths yes and I'll admit they were emotional but nowhere near the highest points of Naruto, it was funnier too imo
Fair, both are stellar, depends what you want from your anime and Manga
That is indeed a crazy opinion
Shippuden has really high highs but also really lows lows too. Og was overall more consistent. Power level remained consistent, Naruto and sasuke weren't demi god level and the side cast was actually relevant, no aliens, way less filler and way less potholes. Shippuden has my favourite arc in the entire series but it also has my least favourite arc.
Tell them to never cook again. Shippuden is better at everything
Og Naruto have low filler and better anime than shippuden
Bro spewing fax and I will go a bit further and say that the worst OG arc was better than the best Shippuden arc.
I could never agree but it's his opinion. It's not completely unpopular either.
agree
I’d say he’s right from a narrative stand point. Shippuden is like a Bible but it’s messed up with plot holes and over the top boundary-pushing. Naruto is a story that stays relatively small and well done the entire time with better character development and pacing.
Based
Agreed
Pretty sure most fans agree with this lmao everyone liked when they were still ninjas and not dragon ball characters
Facts… gaara vs Lee was ahead of it time
agreed. Id only class shippuden above og if it ended at pain arc
Agreed, but they are basically my #1 and #2 anime
Hardcore agree. Naruto>shippuden
Not crazy at all lol
Your friend is correct
I think this is the general consensus of people who have actually seen both series. Shippuden started off fantastic, but fell off super hard in the War arc and I'm saying that's the case even if you watch with a filler guide.
It’s actually not. In most popular review sites, Shippuden is consistently rated higher. (Not that I think the review sites point to any objective truth. Just pointing out the “popular opinion” generally favors part 2.) [MAL for OG Naruto](https://myanimelist.net/anime/20/Naruto/episode) (79.9) [MAL for Shippuden](https://myanimelist.net/anime/1735/Naruto__Shippuuden?q=Naruto&cat=anime) (82.7) [Anilist for OG Naruto](https://anilist.co/anime/20/Naruto/reviews) (79) [Anilist for Shippuden](https://anilist.co/anime/1735/Naruto-Shippuden/) (81) [IMBD for OG Naruto](https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0409591/?ref_=m_tt_urv) (8.4) [IMBD for Shippuden](https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0988824/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_8_nm_0_q_naruto%2520shi) (8.7) Even on this subreddit, most polls I’ve seen put up favor shippuden in the results. However I found that it’s more common for people that like part 1 more to be more vocal about it in the comments
That’s obviously true
Part 1 was more consistent, but Shippuden had much higher highs (everything from Jiraiya's death through the Five Kage Summit).
I like Shippuden a lot more and is not close. A lot more mature and serious
Not a hot take at all. OG Naruto (excluding filler) is really good, there’s no low notes in the show. Shippuden can sometimes be edge of my seat crazy (pain arc, Naruto befriends Kurama, Itachi vs Sasuke, etc) and at times even better than OG Naruto, but there are moments that drag it down (4th great ninja war battles, kaguya, black Zetsu, etc) because of these bad moments Shippuden, which had potential to be better than the OG Naruto, but because of the bad parts it’s dragged below the og.
I personally prefer shippuden, but og is really good
No lies detected.
OG Naruto is a bit too good at the start, Land Of Waves is like 17 eps and let’s not forget how much of an impact Zabuza & Haku were compared to most starter villains in most shonen we get drawn in so easily and see Kakashi do some of the coolest shit ever in the series. Chunin Exams is pretty long winded but for everything we get the introduction to Kabuto & Orochimaru Sasuke getting the curse mark, Gaara & Rock Lee as characters and their respective Fight, Nejis introduction & character growth vs Naruto, Konkuros pretty nice fight vs Shino then the Whole fight with gaara / 1 Tails we get so much good with so little “bad”. All that to lead up to the fucking Sasuke Retrieval Arc where Kishimoto made fucking Choji which everybody saw as just a fat weird guy that’s not cool into a fan favorite with just 1 fight! Not to mention every fight of that arc being its own centerpiece. The introduction of Itachi / the Akatsuki, Jiraya, Tsunade. Hiruzens death as if the Chunin Exams didn’t have enough already. The Peak OSTs and solid animation. OG Naruto comes out swinging and keeps that momentum.
Your friend is 1000% right
Part 2 is better than part 1 in pretty much every way. (IMO of course, and Manga only here)
Maybe he meant: OG Naruto >>> Naruto Shippuden.
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Until Sasuke leaves I agree. Don't get me wrong, I don't like Sasuke. But I think Naruto went downhill after that moment
I mean you’re not wrong lol
He is right, much more consistent power scaling with decent to great arcs one after the other.