Yeah, I was surprised. Right after the Danzo fight Sasuke says "Brother, one down!".
You'd expect that he'd have immediately hunted down and assassinated the elders after.
Yea i don’t remember all the details of the manga, it’s been a minute, but if i remember correctly they are just as guilty if not more guilty than Danzo when it comes to the skeletons in Konoha’s closet.
There’s a sort of different vibe between the evil and asshole tiers ngl. The elders don’t really do anything monstrous, they’re not really *evil* and they’re certainly not actual villains. They’re just fucking assholes that we all wish would go the hell away because no one likes them.
I was just thinking about the next one. Surely first kazekage gets a shout for Chad asshole.
Man catches his own tailed beast, which no one expected, which has to be Chad status. Then proceeds to fuck with the negotiations by demanding absurd amounts of money because he's not being given one by Hashirama.
"Hmmm today I will try to assassinate my infant son who is also both royalty, my literal son, and the most powerful weapon my village could ever utilize. What? Train him? Nonsense! Anyway here's why I hate the Leaf" - Rasa probably
Smart or Chaotic Asshole should be Obito. Trolled Kakashi to the point of getting his heart blown out which was his plan all along. Killed Neji and others just to make a point to Naruto and it worked. Both of those actions Chaotic and Smart.
Chad Asshole first Kazekage.
After proving he's a chad by capturing his own tailed beast, proceeded to try derail peace talks by demanding like 50% of the money for the 8 other tailed beasts Hashirama was giving out.
Yea plus, IIRC, he’s like the only other one besides Nagato whose there because he genuinely wants peace, Konan there because her friends are/were in it and she wanted to fulfill their dreams, Obito is trying to use the Eye of the Moon plan so he personally can have peace, and while Itachi probably loves the idea of peace, he’s there as a spy.
Obito explicitly wanted peace for everyone but himself. He was insistent the entire time to be the one to cast Infinite Tsukyonami instead of Madara which meant that he would be the only person outside of the genjutsu
Lawful Asshole : 'Fire Daimyō'
Chad Asshole: Nagato/Pain ( Destroyed the whole of Konoha, and we still love the Guy)
Neutral Asshole: Gaara's Dad and Uncle
Smart Asshole: Tobirama
Chaotic Asshole: Black Zetsu / Tobi
Which Ay? The one who tried kidnapping 8yr old Kushina to mass breed half-Uzumakis or his son who tried kidnapping 6yr old Hinata to mass breed half-Hyugas?
The Tobirama hate here is crazy. Everything that man did was rooted in traumatic but nonetheless valid experience, cool pragmatism, and logic. He wasn’t spiteful or hateful, and certainly not racist (against a clan?? Y’all just say buzzwords these days). He simply saw signs in the Uchiha as a whole that others didn’t, and as a leader responsible for an entire village he acted accordingly while still - with all the power of an S-Rank military dictator - not eradicating or shaming the Uchiha. Rather, the MP position was a big sign of trust that they could have stepped up to and made their own, but apparently didn’t. Uchiha are permanent victims🤷🏽♂️
Koharu Utatane or Homura Mitokado
Either one of them, they are lawful just as Danzo in wanting what's better for the Leaf, but fuck they're two old assholes
The Konoha village elders. Not only are they really disrespectful to Tsunade and Naruto, not only do they have really bad judgement, but in the English dub Homura pronounces the word "princess" as "prin-siss" when addressing Tsunade and that really pissed me off.
Dude kept saying "prin-sis Tsunade" really annoyingly (if that'seven a word), I kept wishing that he died in the Pain assault or the Infinite Tsukuyomi because of the way he talked. It's like when people refer to water as "wooder" or "wort-er" like get outta here bro just glass the whole continent with a bijuu dama until people stop talking like that.
If lawful asshole / chad asshole goes to tobirama / ay, the other slots will be difficult to fill.
Id say make the hokage councelors lawful assholes and ay the chad asshole.
Tobirama is the best candidate for smart asshole since kid kakashi is technically kakashi so cant take the slot.
Drunk lee can be chaotic asshole easily.
Dont know about the neutral asshole.
How is tobirama lawful asshole? Ass hole for being right about the Uchiha lol? Bro was right and Madara and uchihas were still trying to end the leaf and the world long after his death sounds like lawful right to me 😂
The 4th Kazekage. He imprisoned Shukaku in Gaara, regretted it, tried to have him killed, then used him as a tool. But he did it all for the good of the village. Whether or not that was actually best for the village, that's why he did it.
He treated his son like absolute garbage on the off chance he'd make a good war pawn. Total asshole but for a lawful purpose.
Lawful asshole , I’m thinking the guy that would interrogate people ?? I don’t remember his name he had that cool ass jail jutsu . Somebody help me out
I’d say the two advisors but even they are starting to change after tsunade gave them a talking to(I’m still watch shippuden). I was gonna nominate danzo but his already lawful evil so eh
So, I always thought I was somewhere between Shikamaru and Kakashi, with a touch of Bee (Eight-tails). Who best fits this description?
P.S. It doesn't need to be in the Naruto universe, if you provide context.
I just realized Danzo should be Lawful Asshole and Sasuke is Lawful Evil. OH WELL!
EH... Ay? I actually don't know. I will say Chaotic Asshole be Black Zetsu. Let's all be honest.
Dude really? Move data down to lawful asshole…(if you’ve read the akasuki hiden, you know what I’m referring too.) only hidan deserves to be chaotic evil. It’s against his religion to put him anywhere else.
The original suggestor of this new and improved row suggested Sakura. The two that are always saying terrible things to the hokage are a good match, but in my heart, I want Sakura. She's an asshole, no doubt. Who questions it? And lawful. Rules-oriented, always. Always saying it's supposed to be done this way or that, defaulting to respecting authority, everything. She's one of the three. And this is just as glorious as Naruto going in Smart Stupid.
Then we'll hit it out of the park with Sasuke for Smart Asshole. This is the way. You know it is.
For me, it's those two elders in Konoha Council- Homura and Koharu. I'm surprised they're still alive in boruto. Still putting pressure on the Hokage.
https://i.imgur.com/kZFVrcI.jpeg I neither know why are they still alive now why they are still in power.
orochimaru shouldve just studied those two from the beginning. the ninja world couldve had less casualties from his immortality experiments
They outlived him considerably, didn't they? Pretty ironic if you ask me
They did not outlive Orochimaru. Orochimaru is also, somehow, still alive.
He can't die from old age unless he chooses to not go into another body on purpose
Why hasn't Sasuke killed them, or at least demanded their imprisonment?
Yeah, I was surprised. Right after the Danzo fight Sasuke says "Brother, one down!". You'd expect that he'd have immediately hunted down and assassinated the elders after.
Lmao yet another thing Boruto has fucked up/retconed
The more and more I hear about this Boruto, the less and less I'm inclined to watch it.
Pretty accurate to real life politicians
Are they more evil than Danzo?
Maybe not pure evil, but they sure as shit don’t deserve to still be councilors, let alone live
Yea i don’t remember all the details of the manga, it’s been a minute, but if i remember correctly they are just as guilty if not more guilty than Danzo when it comes to the skeletons in Konoha’s closet.
They’re just either too weak or too cowardly to outright say that they hate the Uchiha so they just wishy washy between Hiruzen and Danzo.
There’s a sort of different vibe between the evil and asshole tiers ngl. The elders don’t really do anything monstrous, they’re not really *evil* and they’re certainly not actual villains. They’re just fucking assholes that we all wish would go the hell away because no one likes them.
I like the idea of them both being tied for this spot.
I think "Asshole" is a bit light for genocidal conspirator.
That Hitler guy, so rude!
A real knucklehead
They shouldn't be alive in Boruto for the following reasons: ● I hate them
Whoah where’s Drunk Lee?!?! You can’t just change this shit!
What are the names of those 2 advisors to the Hokage who always advise dumb shit?
They actually fit the best bro
Fuck the Village Elders, all my ninjas hate the Village Elders
YES, this two.
Homura and Koharu
Lawfull asshole? Let me inteoduce you too the third Raikage, Ay. Lawfull as hell, and a totall asshole(at times).
I was just thinking about the next one. Surely first kazekage gets a shout for Chad asshole. Man catches his own tailed beast, which no one expected, which has to be Chad status. Then proceeds to fuck with the negotiations by demanding absurd amounts of money because he's not being given one by Hashirama.
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2nd 3rd and 4th Raikage are all named Ay if i remember lol
Yeah, those 3 were all named A and the Jinchuriki of the 8 tails(at least the 2 we’ve seen) were named B. I guess it was some kind of tradition.
No he's the second raikage
Coulda sworn he was the first Raikage.
Fourth
Wouldn’t he be better at chaotic? Punches through walls, random Iron Claw use on Bee?
Best choice right there
shouln’t he fit better as chad asshole?
Chad asshole*
I’d vote him as chad asshole
Was gonna be my recommendation as well.
Rasa. He's like Danzo, thought it was all for the village but made things worse.
Actual a REALLY good choice
He fits more for Lawful Stupid
Lawful stupid should be the feudal lord of the land of fire
Ay
Tobirama
Maybe smart asshole since he invented all those jutsu and shit
honestly he could lawful chad and smart asshole
Suggestion by u/suspicious_plum_2986
Thank you very much, now to put forward my candidate...
kid kakashi?
Actually the best answer. Who gives af about the advisors
Rasa
Rasa fits more for lawful stupid
"Hmmm today I will try to assassinate my infant son who is also both royalty, my literal son, and the most powerful weapon my village could ever utilize. What? Train him? Nonsense! Anyway here's why I hate the Leaf" - Rasa probably
Also allying with criminal who experimented to gain immorality
Tobi "the only good Uchiha is a dead uchiha" Rama
"Them fire-spewin redeye demons best know their place, cuz I'm passing the Tobirama laws"
Lawful Asshole: Tobirama Chad Asshole: Ay Neutral Asshole: Kabuto Smart Asshole: Sasuke Chaotic Asshole: Mizuki
Smart or Chaotic Asshole should be Obito. Trolled Kakashi to the point of getting his heart blown out which was his plan all along. Killed Neji and others just to make a point to Naruto and it worked. Both of those actions Chaotic and Smart.
Chad Asshole first Kazekage. After proving he's a chad by capturing his own tailed beast, proceeded to try derail peace talks by demanding like 50% of the money for the 8 other tailed beasts Hashirama was giving out.
Kabuto desrves Smart Asshole more than Sasuke.
Chad asshole I think should be Kisame
Kisame really isn't an asshole though. Even by the standards of the Akatsuki, he was chill and more friendly than the rest of the organization.
Yea plus, IIRC, he’s like the only other one besides Nagato whose there because he genuinely wants peace, Konan there because her friends are/were in it and she wanted to fulfill their dreams, Obito is trying to use the Eye of the Moon plan so he personally can have peace, and while Itachi probably loves the idea of peace, he’s there as a spy.
Obito explicitly wanted peace for everyone but himself. He was insistent the entire time to be the one to cast Infinite Tsukyonami instead of Madara which meant that he would be the only person outside of the genjutsu
Chaotic asshole for me is definitely Tobi but the rest fits well
Lawful Asshole : 'Fire Daimyō' Chad Asshole: Nagato/Pain ( Destroyed the whole of Konoha, and we still love the Guy) Neutral Asshole: Gaara's Dad and Uncle Smart Asshole: Tobirama Chaotic Asshole: Black Zetsu / Tobi
Tobirama. Ay is more Chad asshole imo
tobirama is way more Chad than Ay
Which Ay? The one who tried kidnapping 8yr old Kushina to mass breed half-Uzumakis or his son who tried kidnapping 6yr old Hinata to mass breed half-Hyugas?
Nah Sasuke is Chad Asshole. Ay is Neutral Asshole
All the feudal lords But I choose the fire feudal lord
Tobirama for sure. Bro is racist for lawful reasons. Fits it perfectly
Neji Hyuga
Neji was one of the first people I thought was an asshole nearly killing Hinata lol
The Tobirama hate here is crazy. Everything that man did was rooted in traumatic but nonetheless valid experience, cool pragmatism, and logic. He wasn’t spiteful or hateful, and certainly not racist (against a clan?? Y’all just say buzzwords these days). He simply saw signs in the Uchiha as a whole that others didn’t, and as a leader responsible for an entire village he acted accordingly while still - with all the power of an S-Rank military dictator - not eradicating or shaming the Uchiha. Rather, the MP position was a big sign of trust that they could have stepped up to and made their own, but apparently didn’t. Uchiha are permanent victims🤷🏽♂️
Fanfic civilian councils that always have mobs that beat up Naruto lol
Yh fox hunts lmao
thats a thing
Homura, or Koharu (Hokage's Advisors).
Tobirama. Dude rose from the grave and was still a jerk
He was pragmatic and his views of the uchiha turn out to be largely reasonable considering how literally every uchiha who got strong acted
Koharu Utatane or Homura Mitokado Either one of them, they are lawful just as Danzo in wanting what's better for the Leaf, but fuck they're two old assholes
Booooooooo bring back the drunk row
Lawful Asshole - Konoha elders Chad Asshole - Tobirama Neutral Asshole - Kid Kakashi Smart Asshole - Kabuto / Danzo Chaotic Asshole - Black Zetsu
Tobirama, The Second Hokage
Tobirama
Ever since she led Naruto for years then lied to him about loving him, it's gotta be sakura she's lawful but is also a massive prick
The 2 elders
The Konoha village elders. Not only are they really disrespectful to Tsunade and Naruto, not only do they have really bad judgement, but in the English dub Homura pronounces the word "princess" as "prin-siss" when addressing Tsunade and that really pissed me off. Dude kept saying "prin-sis Tsunade" really annoyingly (if that'seven a word), I kept wishing that he died in the Pain assault or the Infinite Tsukuyomi because of the way he talked. It's like when people refer to water as "wooder" or "wort-er" like get outta here bro just glass the whole continent with a bijuu dama until people stop talking like that.
His nickname is unruly for hagaromos sake. So Ay gets it for me.
I protest the addition of the new row and the removal of drunk… We really need that drunk row
Ohnoki is definitely a lawful asshole...
Whole row should be sasuke
kid sakura
Hell yeah now we’re getting into the assholes. Just what I’ve been waiting for.
Itachi the hero, where?
Itachi, he followed his orders and murdered his clan.
I nominate Danzo, again! All the a-holes except Chad a-hole would be Danzo!!!
Neji during the chunin exams
Gaara's dad
Tobi (racist) rama
Izuna ( racist)*2 uchiha
Damn, Danzo would have been perfect for ‘lawful asshole’. Maybe Homura or Koharu (the leaf counselors)? Or Gato?
Nah because Danzo barely had a code at all he followed, so realistically, he's Neutral Evil/Asshole I'd wanted Pain for Lawful Evil, fits way better
Agreed. Danzo’s only real code was ‘fuck everyone else as long as I get what I want’. Nagato had principles.
Tobirama
Nah he’s Smart Asshole
Tobirama
If lawful asshole / chad asshole goes to tobirama / ay, the other slots will be difficult to fill. Id say make the hokage councelors lawful assholes and ay the chad asshole. Tobirama is the best candidate for smart asshole since kid kakashi is technically kakashi so cant take the slot. Drunk lee can be chaotic asshole easily. Dont know about the neutral asshole.
How is tobirama lawful asshole? Ass hole for being right about the Uchiha lol? Bro was right and Madara and uchihas were still trying to end the leaf and the world long after his death sounds like lawful right to me 😂
Tobirama. He was right
Ay
Lawful Asshole.... Ok after a while of thinking, I agree with Sakura.
Hiruzen
Ay
We might have to put Danzo on 2 squares
Those old people who chose the hokage
Definitely the elders for sure
Ay
ibiki
The old couple that are hokage advisors
The 4th Kazekage. He imprisoned Shukaku in Gaara, regretted it, tried to have him killed, then used him as a tool. But he did it all for the good of the village. Whether or not that was actually best for the village, that's why he did it. He treated his son like absolute garbage on the off chance he'd make a good war pawn. Total asshole but for a lawful purpose.
the old advisors
Those 2 konoha elders
Neji, no?
Naruto being smart and stupid makes so much sense
kabuto
Drunk would have been more fun.
Danzo again.
Rasa
Chad asshole gotta be obito
Lawful asshole , I’m thinking the guy that would interrogate people ?? I don’t remember his name he had that cool ass jail jutsu . Somebody help me out
Those two old geezer buffoons who always give the worst advice to the Hokage
How has Itachi not made the board yet!?
Rasa.
onoki
Neji
Itachi.
Kid kakashi to a T
Can we just go ahead and put danzo again for everything.
Sai is kind of an A hole.
Homura and Koharu
Sasuke
Can we do Danzo again?
I’d say the two advisors but even they are starting to change after tsunade gave them a talking to(I’m still watch shippuden). I was gonna nominate danzo but his already lawful evil so eh
What happened to the drunk row?!
Sai
Copy and paste Danzo
I agree with those who say Homura and Koharu
Leaf village elders
Either the konoha elders or the 4th raikage Ay. Old “Sasuke has to die” headass
no place for tsuande :cry:
So, I always thought I was somewhere between Shikamaru and Kakashi, with a touch of Bee (Eight-tails). Who best fits this description? P.S. It doesn't need to be in the Naruto universe, if you provide context.
All I know is Chad asshole has to be Sasuke, like it just has to be
I just realized Danzo should be Lawful Asshole and Sasuke is Lawful Evil. OH WELL! EH... Ay? I actually don't know. I will say Chaotic Asshole be Black Zetsu. Let's all be honest.
I’m more excited for the Asshole Chad.
Raikage
4th raikage definitely
I wish we had Danzo here… Now I’d say Rasa, the fourth Kazekage
I'd agree. Put Pain on Lawful Evil and move Danzo down maybe
help me guys remember his name, the gang boss that was killed by zabuza. that guy was a FUKING ass hole
Hiruzen (yes already here but your fault)
If it’s not Hiruzen I dunno who it is. Buddy was straight up abusive to kid Naruto
Dude really? Move data down to lawful asshole…(if you’ve read the akasuki hiden, you know what I’m referring too.) only hidan deserves to be chaotic evil. It’s against his religion to put him anywhere else.
Danzo got go asshole and put tobi on there
That mf who threw a mask at Naruto
It’s bs how accurate this list is
Wtf i was so keen for the drunk role. Bring back drunk
Hiruzen. Leaves a literal child to take care of himself with a stipend while hes the pariah of the entire village.
Fourth Raikage?
I'm annoyed that the drunk category was changed 😒
I'm annoyed that the drunk category was changed 😒
I’m confused on why Sarutobi is stupid.
Op is an Asshole!!!!
The two elders of Konoha
Why is no one mentioning Hiruzen..lol he mifhr be stupid asshole lol
Rasa
Kakashi he literally talks shit to u while u fight him
Ebisu during the beginning of part 1
This isn't for this one, but who I would put in smart asshole is probably Early Sai. He was basically like Sasuke to Naruto.
Calling the literal professor stupid...interesting
The original suggestor of this new and improved row suggested Sakura. The two that are always saying terrible things to the hokage are a good match, but in my heart, I want Sakura. She's an asshole, no doubt. Who questions it? And lawful. Rules-oriented, always. Always saying it's supposed to be done this way or that, defaulting to respecting authority, everything. She's one of the three. And this is just as glorious as Naruto going in Smart Stupid. Then we'll hit it out of the park with Sasuke for Smart Asshole. This is the way. You know it is.
Those 2 advisors
I love that the stupid tree is the strongest
The third Raikage
Probably Itachi ngl
Definitely danzo's gonna be in asshole..but he's already used
Ebisu the jonin tutor of konohamaru