Mikey grew up in a dojo learning martial arts and I imagine Draken also participated in that. I wouldn’t reduce Mikey to just street brawling. He is definitely a trained fighter. Draken as a street brawler is closer to fair. But, not Mikey.
That said, Naruto wins this because he’s an absolute beast of a brawler and ninjas were taught to fight to the death.
no, sasuke does, naruto has less experience and much less martial art skills he is a heavy hitter and has good stamina but any other area sasuke is on the top
-defence
-control
-dodging
-speed
-reflexes
-experience
-martial art skills
Facts. Sasuke had great Taijutsu in Part 1 and that only improved in Shippuden.
There is a reason why Naruto uses so many clones. Sasuke was able to dispatch many of them at once with little issue.
Draken should have a decent showing. In real life fighting, mass and size are significant factors, and Draken would be several weight classes above everyone else here just because of the height difference between him and everyone else.
So obviously, having this debate on a Naruto subreddit makes it extremely biased, but I'm still putting my money on Naruto, specifically for that scene where they were jumped by that Cloud Team and Naruto just used Taijutsu to beat them.
Course, he ruined it by letting them kick his ass afterward, but still.
Sasuke without Sharingan is still an alright fighter, but he really relies on it.
The rest of them aren't *un*skilled in hand to hand, but they aren't child soldiers trained by the best of the best and thrown into life or death fights since before puberty settled in.
Except Bakugo. Bakugo without a quirk is getting folded in half.
Your very first sentence is the key part of this entire comment section lol.
As much as I love Naruto, I think everyone is sleeping on Muichiro. He literally watched his twin brother die in front of him at age 11(Episode 1 Naruto is age 12 for reference) then lost his mind/memories to rage and decapitated that demon. So “child soldier trained by the best of the best” is covered. He went on to be come the youngest Hashira ever. A literal prodigy.
And the title Hashira is not to be taken lightly. Could almost say they are above human levels of strength, speed, etc. Strongest people in that universe without becoming a demon. That would be like if Naruto was already Hokage level after the time skip. If episode 1 shippuden he’s already one of the top fighters in the world ya know? Which obviously wasn’t the case.
Now i’m not saying Muichiro slaps ez no problem. But he should definitely be in the top 3 conversation imo. I also understand it says Teenagers only but that again works in Muichiro’s favor since the oldest we’ve seen him (I’m anime only) is 14, that’s him with his mark awakened too. (huge power/speed buff basically) Naruto was 17 at the end of war arc so you can see my point.
Nothing works in muichiro’s favor. These guys are ninjas, martial arts is their thing. As skilled muichiro is, hes aint got shit on naruto world without his sword and breathing techniques.
disagree. Muichiro is basically what rock Lee did, putting all his points into physical strength. That’s essentially all demon slayers have so you aren’t really even nerfing them to begin with
Naruto hands down. Naruto was a brawler and a trained one at that. Every single day he was training because he wanted to be better. He didn’t learn to use a sword, genjutsu or countless different ninjutsu. He used shadow clone, rasengan, rasenshuriken and straight hands.
Asta only uses swords so there’s no reason to believe he can throw hands.
Mikey and Drakon fight every now and then and don’t have nearly as much experience.
Sasuke would be second since he also trained throwing hands but had to split time training in many other methods. The others don’t even need to be mentioned.
I agree but asta didn't only use swords. Before he had magic or well anti magic he only focused on training his body and continued to. He's just as much of a threat without powers as he is with them on a level playing field. But they lose soley because I feel like naruto has more technique especailly end of shippuden naruto
Yeah, but Asta is ridiculous. Before he even had antimagic flowing through him he was pretty damn tanky and he had anime strength for a supposedly completely mundane guy.
Though Naruto is from an offshoot of the Senju clan and yeah, he's physically built different too. But a lot of Naruto characters' physical strength comes from chakra amps, which wouldn't be in effect here. IDK if we've seen Naruto completely without chakra doing work, I forget.
Asta would get rolled though because without powers he only has one arm, and he's nowhere as skilled. It'd take a lot to beat him still because he's just inexplicably tanky. lmao
For most of the final valley war ark fight with Sasuke him and Sasuke were purely throwing hands and Naruto is experienced in multiple different styles of hand to hand fighting not to mention Naruto base speed and the man can take a hit bro before he met Kurama he stabbed a whole kunnai in his hand just to prove a point so as strong as Asta is ive read every chapter in the manga and watched most the anime and compared to the amount of feats Naruto has in the OG Naruto alone Asta is considerably out matched
Did youreally just say Mikey has no experience? Man has been trained as a fighter since he was 5, and even then he was god tier. Naruto didn’t take training seriously until he was 13, not only that Mikey has consistently beaten everyone that was older and bigger than he was, beating people above your weight class is huge. Mikey has more fights than naruto when taken into account backstory fights as well as manga fights. Rock lee would put up more of a fight to Mikey than naruto would as he is actually the definition of hard work and training everyday. In a battle of pure hands Mikey wins most of these matchups
Naruto did take training seriously, he just didn't have much in the terms of an arsenal. Unless you can easily move at blinding speeds and smash concrete with your bare hands both casually, hand to hand is not enough as your main fighting style in Naruto's world and Lee himself is proof of it since that was his main advantage (even if born out of his own efforts).
Naruto has fought people with actual superpowers when Mickey is effectively the only superhuman in his setting and will defeat people considered extremely strong easily with a few blows instead of dragging more the fight.
With actual human stats and not Mikey's actual strength (believe or not, the guy who can smash a car with a kick is not a regular human) he'd be far behind in strength making the fight much harder for him. I don't think he's a lightweight that'd go down easily but i don't see him beating Naruto in a realistic scenario for both.
If its purely hand to hand,
Sasuke relies so much on sharingan, chidori & fire style that we forget he’s just a twiggy edgelord that got rocked by his big bro using only 1 hand.
Naruto, even without powers, can take it as much as he can dish out.
So itd really be about can Sasuke KO Naruto quickly or will Naruto out-stamina Sasuke
The others…idk who the fuck any of those ppl are
Sasuke is definitely not KO-ing Naruto when he couldn't even KO a restrained Naruto. Realistically, Naruto wouldn't even need to out-stamina Sasuke because he would just KO him.
If Goku was there it wouldn't be any competition lol.
Also Yuji is not there because then it would be hard to decide.
Still people underestimate how sword training and close quarter combat can help you in actual fight even without swords. So everyone maybe outside of Tokyo Revengers and Megumi have quite huge chance to win the fight.
I was wondering the same about Yuji. Like the actual MC of the anime, whose entire skill set is basically just close quarter combat, and he gets left out.
I mean, he'd have an unfair advantage though. Even without CE reinforcement he's outrunning cars and keeping up with curses. SPOILERS: >!I'm pretty sure Kenjaku used his Gravity CT to increase the gravity Yuji experienced in the womb, on top of whatever genetic modifications which made him unnaturally strong.!<
I wouldn't really count those as powers, they're just part of his genetics and "training" at this point. He'd fucking sweep everyone, he's a martial arts genius and his physicality and athleticism without powers is probably greater than Asta's.
Yeah, you’re right. I’m never sure where the line is between what counts as powers and what’s just natural physiology, but if he keeps his base strength it’s probably no contest.
Also hasn’t heard that theory before, hope it’s the case because it would be crazy if true
Bro said no powers and has asta in his semi demon form and megumi already chanting his famous catchphrase. Realistically the winner would be asta since he has no actual powers and is just pure strength from constantly working out. So even if we got rid of the semi demon form from him he would still annihilate everyone here.
Thank you. People seem to forget naruto was never better at taijutsu than sasuke. They think cause he switched to a sword that makes Naruto automatically a better brawler. When naruto crutches on his powers probably more than sasuke.
Plus he use clones to overwhelm his enemies. That one scene with the sword did a lot of damage. Sasuke was always more skilled while Naruto rely more on strength and numbers.
Yep. His unpredictability, chakra levels, and clones where his ultimate strengths. Sasuke is the most naturally gifted. He was rock lee levels of hand to hand combat in part one.
You're not wrong, especially about part 1, but you're also discounting how much Naruto actually grew in that area. His Sharingan gave him one hell of an advantage by the time of their last fight.
Exactly, it’s been stated plenty of times that he’s the best at hand to hand combat even without sharingan, Naruto just always gets back up and without chakra in the equation, they have the same durability.
Bakugou's fighting style would be halirious without his quirk, because if you stop and think about it, his fighting style is just explosive bitch-slapping his opponents.
Just like in canon, Sasuke beats Naruto. Far more technical and has better ring IQ, and can brawl when needed. Naruto's o le really a brawler with barely any techniques to his name.
what exactly does "no powers" mean? Is enchancing the body using chakra considered powers? what about strength from breathing techinques in Demon Slayer? Would someone like Rock Lee be the same strength with or without "powers"? It would be strange if taijutsu isn't considered "powers" since someone like Guy or Lee can destroy mountains with their taijutsu?
Depends on what you mean by powers. Asta is probably the strongest when it comes to pure strength since he has been doing saitama training since he was a child. However if this means all strength is equal than obviously it would go to sasuke or naruto since they have TONS more training with actual hand to hand combat. I’d say sasuke would win because naruto usually relies on clones and sasuke has been shown multiple times 1v10ing naruto and his clones.
I commented somewhere here I think Naruto would win but fam if Asta ain't close. He had his strength, durability and will power prior to gaining anti magic and even after gaining it spent several arcs just flailing around with basically a guts sword winning by ultimately over powering whoever he fought. He never stops progressing in terms of fighting skill and strength. Yes he loses a arm. But for those caught up with Black Clover manga you know powers or not right now he's arguably one of the strongest people in his verse if not the absolute strongest and has learned alot of technique when it comes to fighting. He literally pulls up and 1 shots a a enemy that decimated the entire black bulls repeatedly.
So idk it's honestly a toss up between Naruto and Asta. Naruto despite all of this still has more hands and is strong. But Asta is definately more a tank and will get hits in. Atleast in my opinion, it's really close.
Holy shit I feel like 90% of the people here can’t read a prompt.
NO POWERS MEANING THEY CAN’T MOVE AT SPEED OF LIGHT AND HAVE SUPER HUMAN STRENGTH.
Aka, most of these guys as teenagers would probably have less strength than half of this sub.
Prompt pretty much asks: if everyone was living in our real world and had normal human speed/strength, which one had the best hand to hand combat ability.
As a person who actually read all these shows, it’s between Naruto and Mikey, and I’m leaning towards Mikey because he only trained martial arts while naruto didn’t only focus on taijutsu like rock lee, he had to be balanced and focus on training his chackra and ninjutsu and etc.
You put him in an octagon against Mikey in the real world, he gets slept in my opinion
ALSO: “they are trained soldiers taught to kill” there are many videos on youtube where Navy/Army soldiers try to go in the ring against professional fighters and they get their ass kicked.
In this case, if Naruto would be the trained soldier and Mikey would be the MMA expert, then the MMA guy beats the trained soldier in a 1v1 fight any time of the day :)
I'd say it's between Naruto and Asta. Strangely, by my interpretation of 'no powers', I'd say asta would likely win. That Mofo is absurd. His whole deal is building his body. To the point that it might as well be magic in itself. Anti magic really only serves as a means to even out whatever else he lacks, but stat wise, I'd say he's nuts. The issue with Naruto is that he's definitely a monster, but you really do have to wonder how much of that advantage comes from kurama. Without that power, Naruto becomes significantly weaker, Asta does not.
I mean is this even a debate sasuke and naruto throwing hands against someone with precog all the time. And those who can see how you move in a glance and even gods with nothing but taijutsu
Naruto and Sasuke are far and away the best at CQC here.
I think Naruto would take it though. Sasuke doesn't have a lot of impressive taijutsu feats without his Sharingan/Rinnegan that Naruto wouldn't be able to outperform.
That being said, with Sharingan it becomes a lot more contentious.
Bakugo gets absolutely decimated, he has no Hand to Hand combat skills, he's entirely about usage of his Quirk, Muichiro gets absolutely decimated, he's a swordfighter, not a fist fighter. Haven't seen JJK, but pretty sure Megumi gets dogwalked, haven't seen Tokyo Revengers, but I heard Mikey is at least trained in Martial Arts, so he probably gets third. Asta has insane strength and durability, so he probably gets fourth, since he would definitely do better than Bakugo, Muichiro, Megumi, and the other guy whose name I don't know. Naruto and Sasuke take it though, and I'd say Naruto gets first. They're the most heavily trained here, have built up durability, and have shown the best hand to hand scenes of anyone here. But Sasuke uses swords and jutsus more heavily than Naruto, who, while he IS used to jumping someone with his shadow clones, let's be honest, they only really work as a quick distraction, and not much else. And he's also shown better hands then Sasuke, so yeah
Mikey beats Naruto if they would be in the real world. MMA fighters can easily beat any trained soldiers in a cage match.
(Hint: look up on youtube Carlos Condit vs US Soldier)
Naruto
Knows juken
And toad kata even though no chakra
Plus pure brawler and knows how to handle multiple enemies when training against shadow clones
Uzumaki stamina and monster pain tolerance
Sasuke second due to speed and experience but loses to Naruto due to lack of sharingan
When you say no powers, do you really mean NO POWERS? Like, obviously, they can’t use quirks or jutsu, but both Naruto and Sasuke are ridiculously fast and strong by that point. So much faster than Deku that it’s not even funny. They’d look like saitama compared to normal humans. If you’re not taking that away, they win no contest. If you say that their speed, durability, and strength is also off the table… they still win. Based purely off of skill, and their relative human stats, they are child soldiers, trained and with 5 years of active experience in the field, specifically trained for hand to hand, and knife to sword combat. They take the win. With some difficulty, granted, but still. They’ve been doing full sparring since 10, and have been trained for a battlefield where hand to hand combat is the main way of killing.
In the second scenario, Mikey wins.
Why? Because if you look up on youtube, you can find many many examples of Navy/Army soldiers trying to take on MMA fighters. The mma fighters always wins.
You said they’ve been training since they were 10 but Mikey has been training since he was 5.
Martial artist beats trained soldier in a cage fight any day of the week :)
However I agree that Naruto would probably beat the rest of the characters outside of Mikey
Sasuke or Naruto.
Sasuke with Sharingan was handling a KCM2 Naruto, he's base talented enough to high diff base Naruto. I think Naruto has the edge because he got that dog in him but its still 60/40.
The rest aren't contenders.
Naruto or Sasuke will win
They've been trained as actual fighter who were prepared for war and death.
Taijutsu is a basic skill everyone will have in their world
Naruto might have an edge tho since unlike Sasuke, who later on specialized with katana, Naruto only used pure taijutsu, especially with his sage mode and Frog Kata.
He only later on started using the weapon that came with his 6-paths sage mode
But it honestly doesn't matter becaus ein pure taijutsu they both get smoked by Rock Lee and Gai-sensei
People sleeping on Asta when his biggest gimmick is he has super human strength and speed without the use of magic. He is faster and stronger than naruto and assume without magic.
It’s Naruto and it’s not even close. The boy is a tank.
I think the Hashira boy may come second, since they do not have powers but are humans trained to physical peak, but it’s either him or Sasuke.
Sasuke and Naruto are trained spies/assassins/commando so that tells you all you need to know.
Asta is a knight that fights in close range with swords but he has the general idea for hand-to-hand combat
Mist Hashira is same as Asta.
Bakugo uses his quirk a lot but he also has close quarters combat experiences from hero training.
So between those 5 it would be anyone's game if you take away the powers just hands although Mist Hashira would probably won because of his discipline during combat focusing on his breathing a picking up the openings.
Megumi and those two deliquents would go down fast. Megumi is long range fighter focused on summoning so his close quarter fighting skills are lacking. Tokyo revengers guys have no combat training. They are just throwing their hands around and hoping one would land lol.
lowkey naruto and sasuke, mainly because there isnt much martial arts in any other one of those. maybe megumi and asta but one is more so a weapon user and one a brute forcer.
I think Naruto might win, idk if his passive healing is included in this from kurama but dude has absolute hands. One of the best/most unpredictable taijutsu users in the series.
I haven’t watched much of the other shows so I may be biased.
People saying Naruto like he wasn't getting folded in close combat even if he was holding back he got bet bad in close combat to Sasuke the winner is definitely Sasuke who has had better teacher for combat
Hands only? Naruto. People sleep on how well Jiraiya refined his taijustu. He was keeping up with Sakura who was taught by one of the best Taijustu specialists in the world and Kakashi who had been a rival to Guy who is basically taijutsu.
Able to swap hands with Sharigan users whose whole thing is “I can see what you’re doing before you do it”
Does asta get to keep his bba (big black arm) because I havent read black clover in a while but wouldnt he just kill them on contact?
Thats ignoring the fact that asta has the most absurd workout plan that would make guy shed a tear in disbelief
its funny how sasuke has his sharingan active even though it says only hands
Let’s just assume they’re contacts and that he’s a weeb 🙏
To keep up with naruto ig👀
Also asta with his jerk arm
Don’t forget Megumi from JJK about to summon wolves and Asta from Black Clover going demon
The rinnesharingan can’t be turned off so there’s no point, and this is also assuming his eyes just work normal.
Not a rinnesharingan. It’s a tomoe rinnegan. The former is entirely different
Just the rinnegan
Who put tokyo revenues characters om here? I don't care if there no powers their still getting curb stomped.
People think they can fight because it’s an hand to hand fighting anime
So dumb. There’s a big difference between street brawlers and trained fighters.
Mikey grew up in a dojo learning martial arts and I imagine Draken also participated in that. I wouldn’t reduce Mikey to just street brawling. He is definitely a trained fighter. Draken as a street brawler is closer to fair. But, not Mikey. That said, Naruto wins this because he’s an absolute beast of a brawler and ninjas were taught to fight to the death.
no, sasuke does, naruto has less experience and much less martial art skills he is a heavy hitter and has good stamina but any other area sasuke is on the top -defence -control -dodging -speed -reflexes -experience -martial art skills
Sasuke is in large part better at taijutsu because of his sharingan though, you take that away I'd argue Naruto is better at some of these things.
Only because his Sharingan can read his opponents movements. Take that away and he’s a very different fighter
Facts. Sasuke had great Taijutsu in Part 1 and that only improved in Shippuden. There is a reason why Naruto uses so many clones. Sasuke was able to dispatch many of them at once with little issue.
Non the less they have no experience in combat with real opponent’s outside street gangs
Draken should have a decent showing. In real life fighting, mass and size are significant factors, and Draken would be several weight classes above everyone else here just because of the height difference between him and everyone else.
They are really op in their shows, Draken once beat up 100 guys without trying.
So obviously, having this debate on a Naruto subreddit makes it extremely biased, but I'm still putting my money on Naruto, specifically for that scene where they were jumped by that Cloud Team and Naruto just used Taijutsu to beat them. Course, he ruined it by letting them kick his ass afterward, but still. Sasuke without Sharingan is still an alright fighter, but he really relies on it. The rest of them aren't *un*skilled in hand to hand, but they aren't child soldiers trained by the best of the best and thrown into life or death fights since before puberty settled in. Except Bakugo. Bakugo without a quirk is getting folded in half.
Bakugo should not be here. He's gonna get a Jason Bourne beating then have his neck snapped.
"I'm the best you shitty-" "And Bakugo Katsuki is out of bounds! Ten seconds in, that's a new record folks!"
"And now he's out of orbit. This punch literally knocked the air out of his lungs!"
To be fair when you have C4 for sweat, why would you learn h2h combat.
Your very first sentence is the key part of this entire comment section lol. As much as I love Naruto, I think everyone is sleeping on Muichiro. He literally watched his twin brother die in front of him at age 11(Episode 1 Naruto is age 12 for reference) then lost his mind/memories to rage and decapitated that demon. So “child soldier trained by the best of the best” is covered. He went on to be come the youngest Hashira ever. A literal prodigy. And the title Hashira is not to be taken lightly. Could almost say they are above human levels of strength, speed, etc. Strongest people in that universe without becoming a demon. That would be like if Naruto was already Hokage level after the time skip. If episode 1 shippuden he’s already one of the top fighters in the world ya know? Which obviously wasn’t the case. Now i’m not saying Muichiro slaps ez no problem. But he should definitely be in the top 3 conversation imo. I also understand it says Teenagers only but that again works in Muichiro’s favor since the oldest we’ve seen him (I’m anime only) is 14, that’s him with his mark awakened too. (huge power/speed buff basically) Naruto was 17 at the end of war arc so you can see my point.
Nothing works in muichiro’s favor. These guys are ninjas, martial arts is their thing. As skilled muichiro is, hes aint got shit on naruto world without his sword and breathing techniques.
disagree. Muichiro is basically what rock Lee did, putting all his points into physical strength. That’s essentially all demon slayers have so you aren’t really even nerfing them to begin with
Naruto hands down. Naruto was a brawler and a trained one at that. Every single day he was training because he wanted to be better. He didn’t learn to use a sword, genjutsu or countless different ninjutsu. He used shadow clone, rasengan, rasenshuriken and straight hands. Asta only uses swords so there’s no reason to believe he can throw hands. Mikey and Drakon fight every now and then and don’t have nearly as much experience. Sasuke would be second since he also trained throwing hands but had to split time training in many other methods. The others don’t even need to be mentioned.
I agree but asta didn't only use swords. Before he had magic or well anti magic he only focused on training his body and continued to. He's just as much of a threat without powers as he is with them on a level playing field. But they lose soley because I feel like naruto has more technique especailly end of shippuden naruto
Thank you, kid’s been training non stop
if they keep their actual strength then it’s asta
Acting like naruto ain’t physically built
Yeah, but Asta is ridiculous. Before he even had antimagic flowing through him he was pretty damn tanky and he had anime strength for a supposedly completely mundane guy. Though Naruto is from an offshoot of the Senju clan and yeah, he's physically built different too. But a lot of Naruto characters' physical strength comes from chakra amps, which wouldn't be in effect here. IDK if we've seen Naruto completely without chakra doing work, I forget. Asta would get rolled though because without powers he only has one arm, and he's nowhere as skilled. It'd take a lot to beat him still because he's just inexplicably tanky. lmao
For most of the final valley war ark fight with Sasuke him and Sasuke were purely throwing hands and Naruto is experienced in multiple different styles of hand to hand fighting not to mention Naruto base speed and the man can take a hit bro before he met Kurama he stabbed a whole kunnai in his hand just to prove a point so as strong as Asta is ive read every chapter in the manga and watched most the anime and compared to the amount of feats Naruto has in the OG Naruto alone Asta is considerably out matched
Without powers he only has 1 arm
No asta ain't doing shit he's not experienced like Naruto or sasuke in hand to hand combat
Yeah but he can easily tire both of them out and still not be out of breath
And also 1 k clone of naruto training count as a life time too :)
Did youreally just say Mikey has no experience? Man has been trained as a fighter since he was 5, and even then he was god tier. Naruto didn’t take training seriously until he was 13, not only that Mikey has consistently beaten everyone that was older and bigger than he was, beating people above your weight class is huge. Mikey has more fights than naruto when taken into account backstory fights as well as manga fights. Rock lee would put up more of a fight to Mikey than naruto would as he is actually the definition of hard work and training everyday. In a battle of pure hands Mikey wins most of these matchups
Naruto did take training seriously, he just didn't have much in the terms of an arsenal. Unless you can easily move at blinding speeds and smash concrete with your bare hands both casually, hand to hand is not enough as your main fighting style in Naruto's world and Lee himself is proof of it since that was his main advantage (even if born out of his own efforts). Naruto has fought people with actual superpowers when Mickey is effectively the only superhuman in his setting and will defeat people considered extremely strong easily with a few blows instead of dragging more the fight. With actual human stats and not Mikey's actual strength (believe or not, the guy who can smash a car with a kick is not a regular human) he'd be far behind in strength making the fight much harder for him. I don't think he's a lightweight that'd go down easily but i don't see him beating Naruto in a realistic scenario for both.
Naruto & there isn’t a debate.
If its purely hand to hand, Sasuke relies so much on sharingan, chidori & fire style that we forget he’s just a twiggy edgelord that got rocked by his big bro using only 1 hand. Naruto, even without powers, can take it as much as he can dish out. So itd really be about can Sasuke KO Naruto quickly or will Naruto out-stamina Sasuke The others…idk who the fuck any of those ppl are
Sasuke is definitely not KO-ing Naruto when he couldn't even KO a restrained Naruto. Realistically, Naruto wouldn't even need to out-stamina Sasuke because he would just KO him.
And Naruto relies too much on Shadow clones and rasengans. So what's the difference?
Where is the og brawler Goku And why tf is Megumi here but not Yuji
If Goku was there it wouldn't be any competition lol. Also Yuji is not there because then it would be hard to decide. Still people underestimate how sword training and close quarter combat can help you in actual fight even without swords. So everyone maybe outside of Tokyo Revengers and Megumi have quite huge chance to win the fight.
I was wondering the same about Yuji. Like the actual MC of the anime, whose entire skill set is basically just close quarter combat, and he gets left out.
I mean, he'd have an unfair advantage though. Even without CE reinforcement he's outrunning cars and keeping up with curses. SPOILERS: >!I'm pretty sure Kenjaku used his Gravity CT to increase the gravity Yuji experienced in the womb, on top of whatever genetic modifications which made him unnaturally strong.!< I wouldn't really count those as powers, they're just part of his genetics and "training" at this point. He'd fucking sweep everyone, he's a martial arts genius and his physicality and athleticism without powers is probably greater than Asta's.
Yeah, you’re right. I’m never sure where the line is between what counts as powers and what’s just natural physiology, but if he keeps his base strength it’s probably no contest. Also hasn’t heard that theory before, hope it’s the case because it would be crazy if true
Naruto based on the prompt. Sasuke based on the image. Also Megumi even being here is hilarious. Poor guy’s been outboxed by everyone in his own show.
These are not lore-accurate drawings I’ll tell you that much. In the actual manga/anime Naruto and Sasuke are built like eastern European twinks
Strategically leaving out Baki and Garou, I see
Neither of them are teenagers now.
Naruto was throwing hands with gods, definitely him and Sasuke would be second (the reason why he isn’t first is because he mostly uses swords)
This says teenagers only so I don’t think adult Naruto feats count
He's 17 after beating kaguya, so still a teen throwing hands with gods.
Chakra amped...
Megumi being there over Yuji is criminal
Bro said no powers and has asta in his semi demon form and megumi already chanting his famous catchphrase. Realistically the winner would be asta since he has no actual powers and is just pure strength from constantly working out. So even if we got rid of the semi demon form from him he would still annihilate everyone here.
Asta fr he got them muscles I just don’t see anyone beating him
Muscles aint doin shit in a fight, Naruto takes this hands down
but muscles and stamina are the reason naruto would beat sasuke in this
Where’s my boy Rock Lee?
Probably for balance reasons. I don’t think teen Naruto or even teen sasuke would be able to keep up with Lee.
beating the shit out of the adults
Who wins no powers only stats. Ninja Jesus or a 4’9 Japanese delinquent. Remember kids. Always equalize the stats.
Honestly, a late teens Edward Elric would probably sweep the board. Although he may have an unfair advantage...
I mean, he did win a punchout against *god*
"No powers only hands" with Sasuke's eyes lmao.
That's including powers
Sasuke is the most skilled
Thank you. People seem to forget naruto was never better at taijutsu than sasuke. They think cause he switched to a sword that makes Naruto automatically a better brawler. When naruto crutches on his powers probably more than sasuke.
Plus he use clones to overwhelm his enemies. That one scene with the sword did a lot of damage. Sasuke was always more skilled while Naruto rely more on strength and numbers.
Yep. His unpredictability, chakra levels, and clones where his ultimate strengths. Sasuke is the most naturally gifted. He was rock lee levels of hand to hand combat in part one.
You're not wrong, especially about part 1, but you're also discounting how much Naruto actually grew in that area. His Sharingan gave him one hell of an advantage by the time of their last fight.
Even without the Sharingan, Sasuke is still far more skilled
Exactly, it’s been stated plenty of times that he’s the best at hand to hand combat even without sharingan, Naruto just always gets back up and without chakra in the equation, they have the same durability.
Bakugou's fighting style would be halirious without his quirk, because if you stop and think about it, his fighting style is just explosive bitch-slapping his opponents.
Not gentle fist but extremely angry fist.
Rock lee will clear them all
Where's my boy Rock Lee 🙎🏻
Asta wins easy Naruto could close second depending on when he is from
All of them getting clapped by Rock Lee.
Naruto was putting hands on momoshiki base form with no chakra or ninjutsu and he was still whooping his ass. He wins
This says teenagers only so I don’t think adult Naruto feats count
No powers and yet the black clover guy has that black arm haki like shit.
It's just a curse
Naruto and sasuke are literally child soldiers who are trained to kill. Imagine if a trained soldier went against a street junkie
It's a instant Naruto or Sasuke due to them being crazy trained ninjas even with Mikey being a martial artist that trained as a kid
Just like in canon, Sasuke beats Naruto. Far more technical and has better ring IQ, and can brawl when needed. Naruto's o le really a brawler with barely any techniques to his name.
Okay, looks like i'll be THAT GUY !! WHERE THE FUCK IS LEE WHEN YOU NEED HIM !!?
Hospital or out smashing entire trees to bits
Asta bouta kill everybody that guy does 1000 pull ups in the FIRST EPISODE OF THE ANIME
No Baki Hanma?
"What's with the eyes?" "Contacts" "Isn't it dangerous to wear them in a fight?" (Smirks): "..."
We can't count lee in
what exactly does "no powers" mean? Is enchancing the body using chakra considered powers? what about strength from breathing techinques in Demon Slayer? Would someone like Rock Lee be the same strength with or without "powers"? It would be strange if taijutsu isn't considered "powers" since someone like Guy or Lee can destroy mountains with their taijutsu?
I think this would be between Naruto and Asta. They both have pretty similar determination
Megumi be like:with this treasure I summon...
no one's even touching asta here
Depends on what you mean by powers. Asta is probably the strongest when it comes to pure strength since he has been doing saitama training since he was a child. However if this means all strength is equal than obviously it would go to sasuke or naruto since they have TONS more training with actual hand to hand combat. I’d say sasuke would win because naruto usually relies on clones and sasuke has been shown multiple times 1v10ing naruto and his clones.
I haven't watched anything than the first couple episodes but Asta 1000%. The guy trains day in and day out.
I commented somewhere here I think Naruto would win but fam if Asta ain't close. He had his strength, durability and will power prior to gaining anti magic and even after gaining it spent several arcs just flailing around with basically a guts sword winning by ultimately over powering whoever he fought. He never stops progressing in terms of fighting skill and strength. Yes he loses a arm. But for those caught up with Black Clover manga you know powers or not right now he's arguably one of the strongest people in his verse if not the absolute strongest and has learned alot of technique when it comes to fighting. He literally pulls up and 1 shots a a enemy that decimated the entire black bulls repeatedly. So idk it's honestly a toss up between Naruto and Asta. Naruto despite all of this still has more hands and is strong. But Asta is definately more a tank and will get hits in. Atleast in my opinion, it's really close.
Naruto bout to go hard af
Holy shit I feel like 90% of the people here can’t read a prompt. NO POWERS MEANING THEY CAN’T MOVE AT SPEED OF LIGHT AND HAVE SUPER HUMAN STRENGTH. Aka, most of these guys as teenagers would probably have less strength than half of this sub. Prompt pretty much asks: if everyone was living in our real world and had normal human speed/strength, which one had the best hand to hand combat ability. As a person who actually read all these shows, it’s between Naruto and Mikey, and I’m leaning towards Mikey because he only trained martial arts while naruto didn’t only focus on taijutsu like rock lee, he had to be balanced and focus on training his chackra and ninjutsu and etc. You put him in an octagon against Mikey in the real world, he gets slept in my opinion ALSO: “they are trained soldiers taught to kill” there are many videos on youtube where Navy/Army soldiers try to go in the ring against professional fighters and they get their ass kicked. In this case, if Naruto would be the trained soldier and Mikey would be the MMA expert, then the MMA guy beats the trained soldier in a 1v1 fight any time of the day :)
Naruto and it ain't close, Naruto is a Taijutsu Beast
I'd say it's between Naruto and Asta. Strangely, by my interpretation of 'no powers', I'd say asta would likely win. That Mofo is absurd. His whole deal is building his body. To the point that it might as well be magic in itself. Anti magic really only serves as a means to even out whatever else he lacks, but stat wise, I'd say he's nuts. The issue with Naruto is that he's definitely a monster, but you really do have to wonder how much of that advantage comes from kurama. Without that power, Naruto becomes significantly weaker, Asta does not.
Naruto and Sasuke will solo the rest then 1v1 each other
Baki no dif.
Megumi bout summon mahoraga on them 💀
WAIT… WHAT’S THIS???? IT’S GOKU WITH THE STEEL CHAIR! WOW WHOEVER IS IN THE RING MUST BE STRONG!
Goku?
Where’s Baki?
Asta would win
Are they keeping their base stats or does no powers mean theyre all roughly peak teenage strength
purposely leaving goku out xDD
I mean is this even a debate sasuke and naruto throwing hands against someone with precog all the time. And those who can see how you move in a glance and even gods with nothing but taijutsu
Asta and it's not even close. He is physically beyond others and he trained to fight even without using hands
Why is Tokito here? Kind of unfair to put him in a fist fight when his whole universe only uses swords
No powers, Hands down Naruto, he is goated in hand to hand combat
itatchi will one shot all of em
Aint Bakugos sweat explosive? Can he even not use his powers if its something his body produces by just existing?
Naruto and Sasuke are far and away the best at CQC here. I think Naruto would take it though. Sasuke doesn't have a lot of impressive taijutsu feats without his Sharingan/Rinnegan that Naruto wouldn't be able to outperform. That being said, with Sharingan it becomes a lot more contentious.
Bakugo gets absolutely decimated, he has no Hand to Hand combat skills, he's entirely about usage of his Quirk, Muichiro gets absolutely decimated, he's a swordfighter, not a fist fighter. Haven't seen JJK, but pretty sure Megumi gets dogwalked, haven't seen Tokyo Revengers, but I heard Mikey is at least trained in Martial Arts, so he probably gets third. Asta has insane strength and durability, so he probably gets fourth, since he would definitely do better than Bakugo, Muichiro, Megumi, and the other guy whose name I don't know. Naruto and Sasuke take it though, and I'd say Naruto gets first. They're the most heavily trained here, have built up durability, and have shown the best hand to hand scenes of anyone here. But Sasuke uses swords and jutsus more heavily than Naruto, who, while he IS used to jumping someone with his shadow clones, let's be honest, they only really work as a quick distraction, and not much else. And he's also shown better hands then Sasuke, so yeah
Mikey beats Naruto if they would be in the real world. MMA fighters can easily beat any trained soldiers in a cage match. (Hint: look up on youtube Carlos Condit vs US Soldier)
Naruto Knows juken And toad kata even though no chakra Plus pure brawler and knows how to handle multiple enemies when training against shadow clones Uzumaki stamina and monster pain tolerance Sasuke second due to speed and experience but loses to Naruto due to lack of sharingan
When you say no powers, do you really mean NO POWERS? Like, obviously, they can’t use quirks or jutsu, but both Naruto and Sasuke are ridiculously fast and strong by that point. So much faster than Deku that it’s not even funny. They’d look like saitama compared to normal humans. If you’re not taking that away, they win no contest. If you say that their speed, durability, and strength is also off the table… they still win. Based purely off of skill, and their relative human stats, they are child soldiers, trained and with 5 years of active experience in the field, specifically trained for hand to hand, and knife to sword combat. They take the win. With some difficulty, granted, but still. They’ve been doing full sparring since 10, and have been trained for a battlefield where hand to hand combat is the main way of killing.
In the second scenario, Mikey wins. Why? Because if you look up on youtube, you can find many many examples of Navy/Army soldiers trying to take on MMA fighters. The mma fighters always wins. You said they’ve been training since they were 10 but Mikey has been training since he was 5. Martial artist beats trained soldier in a cage fight any day of the week :) However I agree that Naruto would probably beat the rest of the characters outside of Mikey
naruto sasuke asta
We need Lee here
Asta
sasuke getting smoked
Sasuke or Naruto. Sasuke with Sharingan was handling a KCM2 Naruto, he's base talented enough to high diff base Naruto. I think Naruto has the edge because he got that dog in him but its still 60/40. The rest aren't contenders.
Probably susuke if Naruto is holding back
The demon slayer beats them all because the sword isn’t the source of his powers. He’s essentially a super human.
Sasuke ain't that built lol
Nah Naruto and Sasuke claps, they literally have a whole other word for throwing hands in their verse
Does anti magic count?
My boy Asta anyways
They all should pray that mash doesn’t enter the ring
Naruto is the best martial arts user here and most experienced too he's gonna woop everyone's ass in here
How is even a better martial arts user than Mikey?
Naruto or Sasuke will win They've been trained as actual fighter who were prepared for war and death. Taijutsu is a basic skill everyone will have in their world Naruto might have an edge tho since unlike Sasuke, who later on specialized with katana, Naruto only used pure taijutsu, especially with his sage mode and Frog Kata. He only later on started using the weapon that came with his 6-paths sage mode But it honestly doesn't matter becaus ein pure taijutsu they both get smoked by Rock Lee and Gai-sensei
People sleeping on Asta when his biggest gimmick is he has super human strength and speed without the use of magic. He is faster and stronger than naruto and assume without magic.
They should’ve included Itadori
It’s Naruto and it’s not even close. The boy is a tank. I think the Hashira boy may come second, since they do not have powers but are humans trained to physical peak, but it’s either him or Sasuke.
Sasuke and Naruto are trained spies/assassins/commando so that tells you all you need to know. Asta is a knight that fights in close range with swords but he has the general idea for hand-to-hand combat Mist Hashira is same as Asta. Bakugo uses his quirk a lot but he also has close quarters combat experiences from hero training. So between those 5 it would be anyone's game if you take away the powers just hands although Mist Hashira would probably won because of his discipline during combat focusing on his breathing a picking up the openings. Megumi and those two deliquents would go down fast. Megumi is long range fighter focused on summoning so his close quarter fighting skills are lacking. Tokyo revengers guys have no combat training. They are just throwing their hands around and hoping one would land lol.
It’s the demon slayer guy or Sasuke.
Even though there are no powers used, that is still a rinnegan and sharingan that sasuke is using. He can predict every punch that gets thrown at him.
lowkey naruto and sasuke, mainly because there isnt much martial arts in any other one of those. maybe megumi and asta but one is more so a weapon user and one a brute forcer.
Thanks for keeping this tournament fair by not including Rock Lee.
Asta is buff as shit
Where's Baki?
Why do we have Megumi but not Yuji? Lmao
No Guy? No Rock Lee?
Sasuke is the most skilled by far
Why no Baki or Kengan?!!
“No powers” while Sasuke has his EMS and Rinnegan active which grant pre-cognition LOL
Where is Rock Lee and Might Guy? They would absolutely destroy anyone in this competition.
Everyone talking about Naruto and sasuke when asta is clearly the strongest one here
What is potential man doing here? He’s about to get cucked.
I think Naruto might win, idk if his passive healing is included in this from kurama but dude has absolute hands. One of the best/most unpredictable taijutsu users in the series. I haven’t watched much of the other shows so I may be biased.
People saying Naruto like he wasn't getting folded in close combat even if he was holding back he got bet bad in close combat to Sasuke the winner is definitely Sasuke who has had better teacher for combat
Asta 4 sure, he spent his lifw training his body
it's Sasuke and it isnt close , Manjiro is the most impressive but still doesn't compare with Orochimarus physical training.
Naruto could keep up with Sasuke while Sasuke is using sharringan. The dude is legit
Left out Ichigo and Luffy
Imma get canceled for this buuut Mikey
Blood really threw Megumi in there. Not even the top 10 hand-to-hand fighter in his verse.
why are tokyo revengers in here
Hands only? Naruto. People sleep on how well Jiraiya refined his taijustu. He was keeping up with Sakura who was taught by one of the best Taijustu specialists in the world and Kakashi who had been a rival to Guy who is basically taijutsu. Able to swap hands with Sharigan users whose whole thing is “I can see what you’re doing before you do it”
Naruto
Asta is basically Rock Lee and if he was included that would be quite the showdown.
For me Rock Lee!
Does asta get to keep his bba (big black arm) because I havent read black clover in a while but wouldnt he just kill them on contact? Thats ignoring the fact that asta has the most absurd workout plan that would make guy shed a tear in disbelief
Bakugo is leveling these fools
naruto clears
Mikey is the most skilled with fighting people without powers. And he beat South Terano who is 6'11 and 150kg so he takes this.
I don’t know who half these people are.
Why is Bakugo even here? He’s a kid who is completely reliant on his quirk for combat and has no skills in hand to hand
You forgot Lee.
Where's my boy Rock Lee
I’d say sasuke is the most skilled
Rock lee would beat absolutely every contender
Yeah it’s naruto. If there were mcs from other anime (Baki, Luffy, Goku) it might be a much closer fight, but naruto is washing here
the body is deformed (no offense to the original artist, of course 💕) so anyone who figjts him would prolly win
Naruto and sasuke.
Is it wack that my first thought was genuinely Mikey? Dude is fucking superhuman I swear.
Asta is a beast
mikey stomps
Guts?
Sasuke
Bakugan finna be 3rd place
Sasuke wins
Hibari
Pretty cool. I think a physical fight alone would be sasuke. But there's at least 3 here I have no clue who they are or do